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Title: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on August 10, 2012, 08:13:59 pm
http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/19367/paradox-reveals-europa-universalis-iv-for-q3-2013

Paradox have finally annouced a new EU game and I'm super excited. I've personally put 205 hours into the game myself and I love the series quite a bit, enjoyed many hours of it and the replayability.

The downside is that it's set for 2013 (obviously) but at least I know it's in the making.

Anyone else play EU3?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Grumbs on August 11, 2012, 12:37:59 pm
Nice. I've put a lot of hours into EU2, but EU3 isn't bad either. Just liked the historical events on 2, and possibly the graphics have aged better (3's 3d looks a bit dated now). Also you get this song on 2 :D:

Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: zDevilBox on August 11, 2012, 04:35:48 pm
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: crazybob on August 13, 2012, 01:01:51 pm
I love eu3, awesome game. Played it way too much and its still fun! (just like crpg) Hoping for a good sequel.
Quite a while until it gets released, but that means i still have time to beat the game as the few nations i have failed at (kingdom of jerusalem, inca and any one of the steppe hordes except timurids).

Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Osiris on November 04, 2012, 02:32:00 pm
eu2 was one of the most fun games i have ever played with 8-10 man mp games going for hours at a time. didnt like eu3 so much so dunno what eu4 will be like
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on November 04, 2012, 03:07:31 pm
I'm super hyped over this. I played probably more than a thousand hours of the various extensions, and I'm still playing it now.

One of the epic things I've done is a 2 player coop game, starting with Aragon and Morocco. Most badass Morocco ever.

Only thing I fear is that they won't put as much detail in the number of provinces and possible countries as what they were able to develop over the years.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Turboflex on November 05, 2012, 05:23:44 pm
why not?

They better cuz these games are boring if every nation is just generic.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: SeQuel on November 06, 2012, 01:15:55 am
I want a longer time span and more formable nations.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on November 26, 2012, 11:31:23 pm
Anyone else play EU3?

I decided to give it a shot, to understand Paradox RTS somewhat.

I admit I didn't pay for it because I couldn't decide if I'd understand the game at all.

Here's my Hungarian Kingdom so far, 10 years into the game.

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I decided to gain a foothold in Italy, no matter the cost, I am aware of the infamy, but the situation was so tempting, I'm on a cool-down for now.

Any tips, or ideas? I was reading up about Hungary strategy for this game, but I want to expand, not entrench god damnit.
(Yeah, this happens when a Total War junkie picks up a Paradox title,  :lol:)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: bagge on November 26, 2012, 11:47:06 pm
Fooooooooooooooock yeeeeaaaaah! I've most likely spent more than 1k hours on EU3 :rolleyes:

Can't wait!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Zanze on November 26, 2012, 11:51:07 pm
I decided to give it a shot, to understand Paradox RTS somewhat.

I admit I didn't pay for it because I couldn't decide if I'd understand the game at all.

Here's my Hungarian Kingdom so far, 10 years into the game.

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I decided to gain a foothold in Italy, no matter the cost, I am aware of the infamy, but the situation was so tempting, I'm on a cool-down for now.

Any tips, or ideas? I was reading up about Hungary strategy for this game, but I want to expand, not entrench god damnit.
(Yeah, this happens when a Total War junkie picks up a Paradox title,  :lol:)

Oh boy...

Austria is not going to like you when they become Emporer. Not only do their missions tell them to shove a donkey up Hungary's arse, but now you own HRE territory? Oh boys..

Oh, and loans. DO NOT WANT.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on November 27, 2012, 12:02:16 am
Oh boy...

Austria is not going to like you when they become Emporer. Not only do their missions tell them to shove a donkey up Hungary's arse, but now you own HRE territory? Oh boys..

Oh, and loans. DO NOT WANT.

Best way of learning is from mistakes, I guess.

Austria never likes me anyway, Loan I was kinda forced into, but I'm cutting back on pretty much everything for now.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on November 27, 2012, 02:03:35 am
You should try to calm down until your infamy goes back to less than 5 or so. That's for your current situation btw, if you had no threats like austria just next to you, you could start another war sooner.

When you are at peace, you should try to keep your inflation at a minimum, and if possible decrease it.

A few tips :
- Always concentrate your research funding on one research at a time
- Always keep your treasury slider at a minimum
- At peace you can decrease your land funding to spare gold
- Never ever stay over your force limits at peace
- I personally don't recruit mercenaries, you are much better sparing your manpower and being sure your actual army will reinforce quickly.
- The AI is dumb in very many ways, one of which is that they always use war taxes. You don't have to and especially with difficult wars you shouldn't as that way you only need to survive a long war to win, because your enemy will be sinking in rebels after a few years.
- in EU3 DW the key to making successful wars against AI countries that are more powerful than you is to lure them into high defense bonus provinces that you control, then bringing massive reinforcement when the battle starts.
- If you own imperial provinces for which you don't have cores, your first priority is to get a magistrate to remove each of them from the empire. If you are an empire state yourself, you shouldn't be expanding in the empire. If you still get this horrible popup where basically either the emperor takes your province, either it becomes a ruin up until the end of the game, you can save and reload your game without answering to make the popup dissappear. But that's cheating.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on November 27, 2012, 11:34:32 am
Thanks a lot Kafein.

Now I see this wasn't such a smart move, but oh well.. haha.

I'll see how this will play through, maybe I'll get roflstomped soon enough.  :)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on November 27, 2012, 04:07:40 pm
Good god.

Rebels everywhere, Golden Horde blasting into my country, then ottomans and Italian rebels pop up from everywhere to harass me.

Jesus. Looks like this isn't a beginner-friendly nation to play as,  :)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Lizard_man on November 27, 2012, 06:29:06 pm
This is one game i can't wait to get my hands on... :)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Zanze on November 27, 2012, 09:40:52 pm
Good god.

Rebels everywhere, Golden Horde blasting into my country, then ottomans and Italian rebels pop up from everywhere to harass me.

Jesus. Looks like this isn't a beginner-friendly nation to play as,  :)

 Austria is easy mode. Bohemia is somewhat easy mode. France and Burgundy are easy mode. Castille is easy mode. If it is big and blobby and in the west, probably easy mode. Unless it is England. England is children's mode.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Lizard_man on December 05, 2012, 04:30:52 pm
Playing as Khmer, this is as far as i've got where everything goes to shit. Korea and the rebels are fucking me up, and on top of that, i'm bankrupt. Looks like i'll have to start again with Khmer, it's been a while since i've played, and it seems i've picked a hard nation to play as...

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on December 05, 2012, 05:07:40 pm
One thing that was really frustrating at first, is the way how alliances work, compared to a Total War game, where you only sign alliances to not get stabbed in the back instantly, some douchebag factions do that anyway but you get the picture.

If you played your cards well, you only had to focus at one front at a time. Here, on the other hand, especially in crowded Europe.. holy shit.

It's nice that your allies actually come to your aid, though.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Lizard_man on December 05, 2012, 06:05:53 pm
Yeah, i allied with Pegu here and another nation which has been wiped out. But they switch on you the second the larger nation (Ayutthaya i think it is) to the left of Khmer declare war on you. Then Malacca and there allies attack you, now Korea and there allies. It's pretty tough, as i tend to not touch the treasury slider, so i'm constantly out of money. Will give it another go though...
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: EponiCo on December 05, 2012, 08:27:43 pm
When you are at peace, you should try to keep your inflation at a minimum, and if possible decrease it.

- Always keep your treasury slider at a minimum

Having uncontrollable inflation is obviously bad, but you can get inflation with a plan. Rake in cash, pay mercenaries, and decrease inflation from the income of your conquest. Etc.
But it is mostly important to use high treasury when you don't have a big income from land but a big foreign income.
Getting anything that lessens inflation is a really high priority in any case, after that increase the treasury slider so you are making a small inflation (5% below average AI should be fairly good or something).

- If you own imperial provinces for which you don't have cores, your first priority is to get a magistrate to remove each of them from the empire. If you are an empire state yourself, you shouldn't be expanding in the empire. If you still get this horrible popup where basically either the emperor takes your province, either it becomes a ruin up until the end of the game, you can save and reload your game without answering to make the popup dissappear. But that's cheating.

Vassalize them (or conquer & release). Getting only a small tribute doesn't look great on paper, but having a 5 vassals is less trouble than having 1 conquered province (especially in the empire) and it starts adding up. Also, they can use the gold they don't pay you to improve their lands giving you actually full benefits when you take over for good.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: SeQuel on December 06, 2012, 04:36:45 am
Always keep your treasury at the certain point so inflation is 0.00 so you don't gain or lose (you can't lose since you start at 0).

I decided to give it a shot, to understand Paradox RTS somewhat.

I admit I didn't pay for it because I couldn't decide if I'd understand the game at all.

Here's my Hungarian Kingdom so far, 10 years into the game.

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I decided to gain a foothold in Italy, no matter the cost, I am aware of the infamy, but the situation was so tempting, I'm on a cool-down for now.

Any tips, or ideas? I was reading up about Hungary strategy for this game, but I want to expand, not entrench god damnit.
(Yeah, this happens when a Total War junkie picks up a Paradox title,  :lol:)

Hungary is a rather difficult nation since they have to deal with rebel successions, Golden Horde and Austria.

Some easy and fun nations would be

-England (So many routes you can go like colonizing or land expansion)
-Castille (Take Morocco and work into Africa or try taking over Italy while forming Spain)
-Ottomans (Expand east into Asia/India)
-Holland (I really enjoyed my Holland game, it was slow at first but I was the trading master racking in huge profits from being in every single trade centre. Once I got to North America I colonized the whole entire thing within 100-200 years and became the biggest power house in the game and fought all the other power houses.)

Novgorod is fun but more difficult, forming Russia is cool and spanning across and trying to reclaim the territory Russia holds today + more.

A tip if you're playing more difficult countries if lower your maintenance on naval/land to save money until you get into a war REMEMBER TO PUT IT BACK! or you'll lose fights 100% of the time.

I like to keep research going into 2-3 at once. Government always is one, land if I'm going to conquer, sea if Im'a colonize, trade if I wanna become a trading empire.

Make sure you read the policy sliders also so you get a understanding of them and what they do.

Also if you get bored of Vanilla you can check out the Death and Taxes mod, it changes up the game quite a bit. Last time I played I formed Japan.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Abay on December 06, 2012, 05:04:42 am
Hello guyz, I still play this game(EU III) sometimes. I generally play with Ottomans with different focuses. Last time, I play it for blocking eastern attacks on eastern  persian borders and conquering europe and breaking the church. After a 20 years battle with spain, I got some lands in spanish lands. Now, they fear us. Also austria is almost down. They have only wien for maybe 10 years more. I have not much rivals but only france and great britain.

As you will see, I am at war with great britain, france and hindustan at same time. I have enough power to crush them. So, my borders will expand more in near future.

My next steps will be:
- Conquering eastern lands of spain
- Ending austria
- Conquering all arabia
- Having a coast in the north sea
- Conquering southern lands of france
- Getting all italian lands so I can make mediterranean like an Ottoman lake
- Conquering ireland for ending great britain as a first step

Note: I play the game in the hardest ways as I do as always for other games.
Advice: If you want to be the great, just have more lands.

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Send your maps please  :wink:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on December 06, 2012, 02:30:28 pm
Hello guyz, I still play this game(EU III) sometimes. I generally play with Ottomans with different focuses. Last time, I play it for blocking eastern attacks on eastern  persian borders and conquering europe and breaking the church. After a 20 years battle with spain, I got some lands in spanish lands. Now, they fear us. Also austria is almost down. They have only wien for maybe 10 years more. I have not much rivals but only france and great britain.

As you will see, I am at war with great britain, france and hindustan at same time. I have enough power to crush them. So, my borders will expand more in near future.

My next steps will be:
- Conquering eastern lands of spain
- Ending austria
- Conquering all arabia
- Having a coast in the north sea
- Conquering southern lands of france
- Getting all italian lands so I can make mediterranean like an Ottoman lake
- Conquering ireland for ending great britain as a first step

Note: I play the game in the hardest ways as I do as always for other games.
Advice: If you want to be the great, just have more lands.

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Send your maps please  :wink:

Nice green blob ! I'm not sure I have many screens to compare e-peens though.

You can just imagine morocco going from cape verde to the easternmost coast of china, and from south africa to the ural mountains. I was playing coop with someone that started as aragon though.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Abay on December 06, 2012, 08:58:40 pm
Nice green blob ! I'm not sure I have many screens to compare e-peens though.

You can just imagine morocco going from cape verde to the easternmost coast of china, and from south africa to the ural mountains. I was playing coop with someone that started as aragon though.

Actually I didnt think to invade spain at first. morocco invaded there and got roussilion. with some like 200 years royal marriages, I took their lands free. then spain attacked for reconquest casus belli. u know the rest  :D

Ottomans are one of the best if u start for a grand campaign I think. Also I played with england, too. But I dont like dealing with america lands, so..
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: SeQuel on December 07, 2012, 12:54:41 am
This is my only screenshot of EU3.....I couldn't continue this file unfortunately because I re installed Windows 7 and forgot to back it up >.<

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My borders are so pretty.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Abay on December 07, 2012, 01:21:12 am
My borders are so pretty.

Playing with Russia is really hard cos of conditions of land shapes. States are big and walking from one to another takes really long time.

Also I see you have not much manpower at all. I remember a war between me(Ottomans) and Great Britain that takes 23 years. I spent 150k of my 200k manpower. I was almost losing if I couldnt conquer London. Because Great Britain couldnt be broken unless I took their capital city. Heh. Capital cities are the key of terms that you make the enemy accept  as I experienced  8-)

Note: Shame on Ottomans gave trebizond and mus to castille
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: SeQuel on December 07, 2012, 07:36:20 am
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Very good question..........hmm......didn't even realize that till now.

I have no fucking idea.


Now I remember, I was under a Republic government so I had elections.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Abay on December 07, 2012, 04:04:20 pm
Now I remember, I was under a Republic government so I had elections.

ops, I have no idea about republic things :P I generally rule the country with absolute monarch. so, legitimecy is always a problem if it is under 70 for me. especially, morale of armies goes down badly if legitimecy is bad. then I use royal marriages for making legitimecy higher
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on December 07, 2012, 04:13:26 pm
This is my only screenshot of EU3.....I couldn't continue this file unfortunately because I re installed Windows 7 and forgot to back it up >.<

My borders are so pretty.

I wonder what Peace Treaty the Golden Horde would try at this point,  :lol:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on December 07, 2012, 05:00:33 pm
Playing Papal States, holy year 1636.
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I exploded France very early while they were at war with Burgundy, I then exploded Burgundy, started eating French and Bourbon territories and later exploded England. Austria remained my biggest problem up until around 1550, now it's my infamy. I only need to take Friuli from Aquilea to make the Kingdom of God national decision (which is completely OP).

My constant advance into their territory means the empire is pretty much dead at this stage, never able to get more than 5 authority or something. After all, all matters related to God should be ruled by men of the Church.

My first national value was Unam Sanctam so not being catholic is a very bad idea. Also I'm the forever papal controller (I have like 75% of obtaining the next cardinal, all the time), whenever some catholic nation annoys me I just excommunicate them. Also having all those cardinals gives me -1.2 infamy per year.

I pretty much control all important european COTs except lubeck, and I also formed the first carribean COT in Moron so I get a heapload of gold through trade.

I have a lot of small vassals that I will take some time to annex. France (Calais), England (London), Ragusa, Monteblack in spanish, Alençon, Normandy, Aragon and Algiers. They are all catholic. Even funnier, Algiers is ruled by a bishop.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Abay on December 07, 2012, 05:05:14 pm
Also having all those cardinals gives me -1.2 infamy per year.

omg, -1.2 ?  :shock:    I need those cardinals in Ottoman Palace  :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Turboflex on December 07, 2012, 05:07:54 pm
Try Magna Mundi mod if you find EU3 too easy.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on December 07, 2012, 06:57:09 pm
Try Magna Mundi mod if you find EU3 too easy.

Most countries are not "too easy", at least not during the first years. The only problem is that when you become blobby, nothing can really hurt you anymore.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: SeQuel on December 08, 2012, 06:16:55 am
Most countries are not "too easy", at least not during the first years. The only problem is that when you become blobby, nothing can really hurt you anymore.

Yah, that was my only gripe with the game. You eventually become a power house and destroy everything in your path.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on December 08, 2012, 02:55:22 pm
Somewhat related.


I love this tune so much. The music is fantastic even if you listen to it for the 1000th time.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Abay on December 08, 2012, 03:33:20 pm
It is really first time that I like 90% of musics of a game like that  :o
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on December 08, 2012, 04:05:16 pm
Weirdly enough, I still like the musics after thousands of hours.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Abay on December 08, 2012, 04:08:50 pm
I will load new map after peace with Hindustan, Great Britain and France soon  :wink:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Teeth on December 08, 2012, 04:10:51 pm
This is my only screenshot of EU3.....I couldn't continue this file unfortunately because I re installed Windows 7 and forgot to back it up >.<

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My borders are so pretty.
Did you start with Novgorod or Muscowy, if you started in 1399 ofcourse? I have been trying to form glorious Russia with Muscowy about 3 times now, but Golden Horse always fucks me up sooner or later, sometimes with or without Novgorod. Oh I always play without Lucky Nations cause I think it is gay, isnt Muscowy a lucky nation?

On the subject of mods, are there any that are a vast and undisputable improvement of the base game?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: SeQuel on December 08, 2012, 09:21:29 pm
Did you start with Novgorod or Muscowy, if you started in 1399 ofcourse? I have been trying to form glorious Russia with Muscowy about 3 times now, but Golden Horse always fucks me up sooner or later, sometimes with or without Novgorod. Oh I always play without Lucky Nations cause I think it is gay, isnt Muscowy a lucky nation?

On the subject of mods, are there any that are a vast and undisputable improvement of the base game?

I started with Novgorod.

I really like Death and Taxes, it's not super hard like Magna Mundi but it changes the game up quite a bit. Everything has more of a impact like decisions, policies, and national decisions.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on December 08, 2012, 09:37:14 pm
On the subject of mods, are there any that are a vast and undisputable improvement of the base game?

I haven't played many, but due to the nature of the game, it's almost impossible to make a mod that only improves things. Even those things you wish worked differently in the base game, sometimes when you play the "fixed" version, the game seems more dull.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: SeQuel on December 09, 2012, 03:43:16 am
Started a game with my friend. I'm playing Serbia, he's playing Naples. Needless to say, were been in A LOT OF WARS and keep barely coming out on top. We just came out of a war against Croatia, Hungary, and Poland. We were pretty close to losing until we started to come back, as we were making our come back Austria takes advantage of this and declares war on them. Poland gets scared and white peaces and 1-2 months later Austria peaces with Hungary. Now me and my friend just had to deal with Croatia and Hungary which was a fun fight. It's actually pretty fun and I'm enjoying this file a lot with him.

Here's the screenshot of the progress.

Notes:

THIS IS ALL ON THE DEATH AND TAXES MOD

- Look at Castille, completely fucking blew up. Ever seen Leon before?
- You can't see it in the screenshot but Sweden is spanning across Russia
- France got destroyed early in the game and made the biggest come back I've ever seen.
- A lot of random nations have random provinces everywhere.
- Fuck Ottomans and their god tier generals.

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on December 09, 2012, 03:51:11 am
Is that a french portugal I see ?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: SeQuel on December 09, 2012, 04:12:18 am
Is that a french portugal I see ?

It is, you also got Galacia right above it and Morocco actually capping Castille.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Abay on December 09, 2012, 04:39:03 am
omg, I saw the weakest castille and ottomans in your game. Btw, France also made a great comeback against England in my map.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on December 09, 2012, 07:20:14 am
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Dat Serbia.

Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on December 09, 2012, 01:37:56 pm
Also wtf is wrong with you two, Naples taking the dalmatian region instead of Serbia.

Btw, cool jalayirids on the far right
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Teeth on December 09, 2012, 06:41:34 pm
Fuck, how do you take over Golden Horde provinces? Sure the 6.8 gold tribute a month they pay me now is pretty sweet, but eventually I will have to take provinces. I can't have them cede them to me that is for sure. Oh god, I found it. Really, I have to colonize every province until 1000, while they can pillage my lands into submission very quickly.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Abay on December 09, 2012, 07:10:15 pm
Fuck, how do you take over Golden Horde provinces? Sure the 6.8 gold tribute a month they pay me now is pretty sweet, but eventually I will have to take provinces. I can't have them cede them to me that is for sure. Oh god, I found it. Really, I have to colonize every province until 1000, while they can pillage my lands into submission very quickly.

yea, a kinda hard. when I see its population over 900 and golden horde army take it, I am going mad  :mad:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on December 09, 2012, 08:05:57 pm
Fuck, how do you take over Golden Horde provinces? Sure the 6.8 gold tribute a month they pay me now is pretty sweet, but eventually I will have to take provinces. I can't have them cede them to me that is for sure. Oh god, I found it. Really, I have to colonize every province until 1000, while they can pillage my lands into submission very quickly.

Yes, it's a pain in the arse to do that.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: SeQuel on December 09, 2012, 08:20:26 pm
Also wtf is wrong with you two, Naples taking the dalmatian region instead of Serbia.

Btw, cool jalayirids on the far right

My friend took a infamy hit for me and sold me the province shortly after.

Fuck, how do you take over Golden Horde provinces? Sure the 6.8 gold tribute a month they pay me now is pretty sweet, but eventually I will have to take provinces. I can't have them cede them to me that is for sure. Oh god, I found it. Really, I have to colonize every province until 1000, while they can pillage my lands into submission very quickly.

Death and Taxes mod removes Tribal countries and put them under 1 ruler so you can actually use diplomacy with them, it's great since you don't see all nomadic tribes blow up cause they're forced to go to war every 5 years with all neighboring countries.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: SeQuel on December 09, 2012, 09:51:05 pm
Here is a more updated picture of my current game with my friend.

EUROPE

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EASTERN EUROPE

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SWEDEN

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on December 09, 2012, 10:26:05 pm
Wait what.. Illyria?

Amazing.

How did you guys get all the territory, warmongering too much, eh? Doesn't that kick you in the nuts if you do it all the time?

For me it did just that. I know I'm new to this but still.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on December 09, 2012, 10:36:44 pm
Doesn't beat my Kingdom of God.

Btw that national decision is actually a bad deal because even though the whole Latin group is now considered accepted culture, I actually disbanded papacy by doing that. Which means I lost a crapload of random shit, including the omfg -1.2 infamy, other cardinal bonuses, the huge bonuses of the papacy government type and the ability to excommunicate people. Now I'm basically just another random blob.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: SeQuel on December 09, 2012, 10:56:07 pm
Doesn't beat my Kingdom of God.

Btw that national decision is actually a bad deal because even though the whole Latin group is now considered accepted culture, I actually disbanded papacy by doing that. Which means I lost a crapload of random shit, including the omfg -1.2 infamy, other cardinal bonuses, the huge bonuses of the papacy government type and the ability to excommunicate people. Now I'm basically just another random blob.

That sucks.

Wait what.. Illyria?

Amazing.

How did you guys get all the territory, warmongering too much, eh? Doesn't that kick you in the nuts if you do it all the time?

For me it did just that. I know I'm new to this but still.

Illyria is a form-able nation you can form by starting as Serbia or Croatia and capturing core provinces. As Serbia you start as a some-what small nation so no one really fucks with you at the start. I also had help from my friend who was playing Naples.

Doesn't help I got shitty missions through-out the game.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Abay on December 10, 2012, 04:39:39 am
Actually Sequel, I wonder how you release Serbia from Ottoman vassalation :?:  Naples attacked Ottomans and they made you release?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: SeQuel on December 10, 2012, 04:43:06 am
Actually Sequel, I wonder how you release Serbia from Ottoman vassalation :?:  Naples attacked Ottomans and they made you release?

Death and Taxes mod you start at 1351? around that and not in a vassal of Ottomans.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Abay on December 10, 2012, 05:14:20 am
Hmm, I only play it with Divine Wind with no extra mod. Maybe I can try it  :)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on December 10, 2012, 02:53:02 pm
Okay, call me an idiot, but one thing I really don't get are the battles.

How come that the AI always gets morale boosts while I don't? I mean it's almost like cheating, there is next to nothing on their morale bar, and they gain it back to 50% or even 75. I feel like being laughed at by the AI.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Abay on December 10, 2012, 02:59:30 pm
Okay, call me an idiot, but one thing I really don't get are the battles.

How come that the AI always gets morale boosts while I don't? I mean it's almost like cheating, there is next to nothing on their morale bar, and they gain it back to 50% or even 75. I feel like being laughed at by the AI.

good question

dude, it is up to many thing like Legitimecy, Stability, War exhaustion, Discipline, Quality, Land/Naval Technology, Commander Skills and Military advisors. You can start making your quality the best at first  :wink: Then, try to reach more land/naval tech
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on December 10, 2012, 03:01:07 pm
good question

dude, it is up to many thing like Legitimecy, Stability, War exhaustion, Discipline, Quality, Land/Naval Technology, Commander Skills and Military advisors. You can start making your quality the best at first  :wink: Then, try to reach more land/naval tech

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Abay on December 10, 2012, 03:07:10 pm
When I met the game first, I was really shocked by whole details of game. I was really not brave to declare a war against someone cos of some same reasons like yours(bad army morale). Then I pay Money for only land tech and weapon manufactory. This made me the best in land army cathegory. With this way, I could keep the war as long as I want(10,20,..,50 years) until my enemy gives up. So...
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Teeth on December 10, 2012, 06:21:33 pm
Okay, call me an idiot, but one thing I really don't get are the battles.

How come that the AI always gets morale boosts while I don't? I mean it's almost like cheating, there is next to nothing on their morale bar, and they gain it back to 50% or even 75. I feel like being laughed at by the AI.
Military Drill, all the way. Fighting a faction that does have it while you don't is a pain in the ass. This morale boost, do you mean during battles? During a battle morale is shown as relative to yours, and normally it is shown relative to their maximum. So they can be at 50% of their maximum, with this 50% still being higher than your morale at 100%. I am always a big morale whore, cause that way you can beat way larger armies with smaller, and therefore cheaper to maintain, numbers.

Battles can be a fickle bitch though, with your army suddenly being wiped out by a very small force due to bad rolls, retarded terrain, funky morale or OP commanders.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on December 10, 2012, 06:32:32 pm
Military Drill, all the way. Fighting a faction that does have it while you don't is a pain in the ass. This morale boost, do you mean during battles? During a battle morale is shown as relative to yours, and normally it is shown relative to their maximum. So they can be at 50% of their maximum, with this 50% still being higher than your morale at 100%. I am always a big morale whore, cause that way you can beat way larger armies with smaller, and therefore cheaper to maintain, numbers.

Battles can be a fickle bitch though, with your army suddenly being wiped out by a very small force due to bad rolls, retarded terrain, funky morale or OP commanders.

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on December 10, 2012, 07:07:33 pm
That side of the game varied greatly with the different extensions, and what I'm going to tell only is good for DW :

- In DW, war is all about killing the enemy faster than the enemy is able to kill you.

- When starting a tough war, don't go in enemy territory righ away.
- The key is to find a few well interconnected provinces with high defense bonus and surrounded with high support limit provinces on your side, bottlenecking the enemy attack.
- You need to station just the right amount of troops on the high defense provinces to make the enemy stacks attack those.
- When the battle begins the enemy is trapped with an attack malus, and now you can send massive reinforcement coming from your high support limit provinces, turning the battle into a bloodbath for the enemy, often wiping entire armies (I had 25k vs 300 victims in my favour this way once).
- Not getting your armies wiped is your first priority
- Avoid attacking. IMO an attack is "safe" only if you bring double the amount of troops the enemy has in the province you are attacking and in all the neighboring ones, also you need to bring a general.
- Enemy troops that are busy capping your provinces will stay there. You are better letting them alone.
- Time is on your side. If it is not, make peace.

For all these reasons, I always spec my country towards defense and quality.

Btw this also applies to fleets. Never ever risk losing one if you can avoid it.


About quick peace offers : the AI loves reducing your sphere so don't hesitate to put random countries in your sphere whenever you have high prestige (the smaller and the closer to you the better). You will be able to use them to make quick peace with AI thinking they are winning a war against you.


Btw, I didn't actually change my gov type by becoming the Kindgom of God
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Zanze on December 10, 2012, 07:41:51 pm
AI gets morale boosts and all that jazz because to them, being human is already cheating.

Wait till you try and play on very hard. Not only will the AI units absolutely destroy you, but you will also be on everyones hit list. (I think they get +.25 Morale, you get -.25morale. Among other things with middle fingers painted on)

Example: I played England. Ate Ireland for free cores, declared war on Sweden to enforce a PU. During the Sweden War (They take awhile due to ai getting +100% defensiveness to all provinces) France, Burgundy, Scotland, Naples, Provence, and Brittany declared war on me. I beat back everyone except Scotland. Castille, Aragon, Portugal, and a few HRE minors declare war on me.

Now, being England this could EASILY be doable. Except for the Scottish Highlanders event being bugged. It is -supposed- to fire once every 6months. However, because for some odd reason this game hates my guts it has fired every 2 months since the start of the war. For those who don't know, Highlanders is a free 13 stack that spawns in scottish territory.

Because it is every 2 months, I can't effectively starve out that province. I basically need to wipe their army, then have enough troops left over to wipe their army again. All while hoping that the AI doesn't suicide rush my island again. (A favorite tactic of theirs, try and land troops from different boats while having 3-4 main battle fleets to distract my own fleets)

So, just remember, it only gets worse from here. =D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on December 10, 2012, 08:25:12 pm
So, just remember, it only gets worse from here. =D

Thanks for the inspiration.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Teeth on December 20, 2012, 08:05:02 pm
So I am trying to create a glorious African Empire with Portugal and I want to move my capital there. Apart from the glorious African Empire requiring an African capital I also have 7 European provinces compared to 45 African provinces, so it would be economically advantageous. Navy force limit of 31 ffs, all my tariffs are going to waste.

Does anyone happen to know the ins and outs of moving your capital? It told me that I couldnt move my capital cause my current capital as a big heartland around it. Should I lose all my European provinces or just a few? How do you lose them anyway? I thought you could sell them, but the button is greyed out everywhere. Is a core the only thing I need to move my capital?

Edit: Nevermind I got it. The capital needs to be isolated from any other owned province, I couldnt sell provinces cause I was at war and a core is the only thing you need. Africa is now named Portugal, sadly the 5 provinces I have left in Europe are not called European Portugal, would've been funny.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on December 21, 2012, 01:45:23 am
sadly the 5 provinces I have left in Europe are not called European Portugal, would've been funny.

If your european territory gets bigger it will probably show up :lol:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: [ptx] on January 13, 2013, 03:42:50 pm
This fucking game... I have it patched to the latest version, with all the expansions and whatnot... It crashes just a couple of years into any campaign, impossible to get past it... Seriously, fuck this POS.

Also, wtf affects colonisation time? The only campaign i've tried that doesn't run into an impassable CTD at some point is with Mali, but it is pretty much impossible to progress in, since, you conquer the few other tribes in your vicinity, but then are surrounded by wastelands and uncolonised regions, that you can't colonise, since the time for colonisation is like, 621332 days or so (wtf?) and you begin to constantly lose legitimacy and have nonstop rebellions, due to not being at war with anyone (because there is noone you can war with, doh).
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on January 13, 2013, 05:52:54 pm
This fucking game... I have it patched to the latest version, with all the expansions and whatnot... It crashes just a couple of years into any campaign, impossible to get past it... Seriously, fuck this POS.

Also, wtf affects colonisation time? The only campaign i've tried that doesn't run into an impassable CTD at some point is with Mali, but it is pretty much impossible to progress in, since, you conquer the few other tribes in your vicinity, but then are surrounded by wastelands and uncolonised regions, that you can't colonise, since the time for colonisation is like, 621332 days or so (wtf?) and you begin to constantly lose legitimacy and have nonstop rebellions, due to not being at war with anyone (because there is noone you can war with, doh).

I think you need the westernisation event to happen to get decent options with african/american countries, google it, I don't remember the conditions and effects.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on January 24, 2013, 11:49:33 am
Have you guys noticed?

Paradox gave people free EU3 chronicles steam keys!

I guess it's related to a forum or whatever, but it's a very nice gift. Thank you so much Paradox.

I started a new Hungary game as well, decided to play the inheritance, Personal Union minigame a bit more, not pissing off the entire world, etc etc. It's going very well!

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So far I had/have Unions with

Croatia (you get this at start in the mod, no biggie)
Serbia, who I integrated already
Poland
And recently, the game gave me a mission to form an union with Bohemia, lols. Which I also did!

Fear the Hungarian powerhouse, haha

Currently I'm having a bit of a manpower problem, in another Hungary game this went away when I mass conquered, are there other ways to solve this? I don't want to piss everyone off, being more diplomatic is awesome.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on January 27, 2013, 12:09:07 pm
Have you guys noticed?

Paradox gave people free EU3 chronicles steam keys!

I guess it's related to a forum or whatever, but it's a very nice gift. Thank you so much Paradox.

I started a new Hungary game as well, decided to play the inheritance, Personal Union minigame a bit more, not pissing off the entire world, etc etc. It's going very well!

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So far I had/have Unions with

Croatia (you get this at start in the mod, no biggie)
Serbia, who I integrated already
Poland
And recently, the game gave me a mission to form an union with Bohemia, lols. Which I also did!

Fear the Hungarian powerhouse, haha

Currently I'm having a bit of a manpower problem, in another Hungary game this went away when I mass conquered, are there other ways to solve this? I don't want to piss everyone off, being more diplomatic is awesome.

When you will grow bigger and after a few dozen years, all the AI will be like "Human with many provinces, must killlll..." no matter how friendly you are, except your vassals.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on January 27, 2013, 12:50:44 pm
When you will grow bigger and after a few dozen years, all the AI will be like "Human with many provinces, must killlll..." no matter how friendly you are, except your vassals.

I see.

I just ate Bohemia recently, and took the holy lands, that kinda stuff.

Might be a sound strategy to do some mass recruiting at this point, to secure borders up home while I'm conquering down there then.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: SeQuel on January 27, 2013, 06:24:37 pm
Careful for rapid expansion...you'll start getting really bad revolt rates when you get to many uncored provinces vs cored provinces.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on January 27, 2013, 08:03:40 pm
Careful for rapid expansion...you'll start getting really bad revolt rates when you get to many uncored provinces vs cored provinces.

Just noticed. Haha

Revolt after revolt after revolt,

Overextension happened to us x500.

Geez.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on January 27, 2013, 08:19:56 pm
Try to go for the valuable provinces (rather than the cheap to get ones) while you are still relatively small.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on January 27, 2013, 09:26:04 pm
Aaaargh!

I'm pulling my hairs out soon if this keeps happening;

Since I've inherited Bohemia, the current Emperor constantly trolls me with the "A fromal request" event, bringing my stability down to -3 ALL THE TIME.

I'm trying to abandon the empire but the number of provinces is too much, I need time to abandon with all provinces I gained.

FUUUUUUUUUUU
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on January 28, 2013, 12:55:24 am
Aaaargh!

I'm pulling my hairs out soon if this keeps happening;

Since I've inherited Bohemia, the current Emperor constantly trolls me with the "A fromal request" event, bringing my stability down to -3 ALL THE TIME.

I'm trying to abandon the empire but the number of provinces is too much, I need time to abandon with all provinces I gained.

FUUUUUUUUUUU

Haha yes this is gold. You should have your magistrate pool maxed whenever you take a big chunk of HRE lands. If you messed up you can cheat to avoid it

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If you don't want to cheat, never ever keep a province the emperor asks you back. It will be so fucked up you are better giving it away (even to the emperor).
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on January 28, 2013, 02:16:28 pm
Thanks for the tip Kafein, sad that I had to use this "trick", but I managed to abandon with all my provinces now, and got Austria as an Ally against Lithuania, trolled him with releasing Ukraine etc. haha
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Zanze on January 28, 2013, 03:26:21 pm
Ha. The Empire, arent they fun. I simply join them, and then become the next emperor. Lots of gifting required, but makes life easy on me.

Austria kept being a dickwad over the fact that Milan and Tyrol were my vassals (I was Naples and had JUST joined the Empire). Well, as much as I did not like Austria, fighting an Austrian Emperor as Naples is not very fun. Over a series of 3-4 wars fought down to the man. (Ran out of manpower each time and had to give up) I had to abandon Tyrol. Another 2 wars later, I almost had to abandon Milan...Until I became the emperor. Had about 1000 manpower left when this happen, then infinite manpower changed the tide immensely. Roflstomped Austria right after. As I finished up, Bohemia declared on Austria because they felt like it. I answered the call to protect the Empire state from BS when I let Bohemian army head down to Gurz or somewhat.

Safe to say, in less than 2 years I had broken down the 2 most powerful empire states. Silly gooses.

TL;DR: Become Emperor Asap. Much luls happen.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on January 28, 2013, 03:34:04 pm
As amusing as it may sound, the best way to become emperor is to be a total douchebag to the empire. If you keep the imperial authority at a minimum, electors will be more than willing to change emperor. Also, putting all your uncored provinces out of the empire will get you a massive imperial authority bonus when you become emperor and put them back in.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Abay on February 12, 2013, 10:59:10 pm
I have lost my all saved games after my laptop was broken and now I will start a new journey with Ottomans.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 13, 2013, 03:39:33 am
Recently got EU3, the tactic I've personally deployed for eventually becoming the emperor of the HRE is to slowly annex all HRE land, already managed to expand Bohemia to over three times its original size and there are barely any HRE members left besides the electors.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Abay on February 13, 2013, 04:23:08 am
Recently got EU3, the tactic I've personally deployed for eventually becoming the emperor of the HRE is to slowly annex all HRE land, already managed to expand Bohemia to over three times its original size and there are barely any HRE members left besides the electors.
Recently got EU3, the tactic I've personally deployed for eventually becoming the emperor of the HRE is to slowly annex all HRE land, already managed to expand Bohemia to over three times its original size and there are barely any HRE members left besides the electors.

 
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on February 13, 2013, 05:56:00 am
I think I get this game somewhat now.

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:mrgreen:

Not as fast as I wanted, but now I know the limits at least.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on February 13, 2013, 06:45:02 pm
You monster !

Also, nice Leon !

I suppose you are not a stranger to this unexpected extension ?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Abay on February 13, 2013, 07:03:04 pm
You monster !

Also, nice Leon !

I suppose you are not a stranger to this unexpected extension ?

I think he is with that high infamy  :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: [ptx] on February 19, 2013, 02:50:08 pm
Somehow, the game is running more or less fine on my other PC.

Anyhow, here is a challenge to you, EU3 pros: recreate Byzantine Empire! As in, starting with the Byzantine faction and recovering its territories pre-turk invasion.

I will probably be trying this myself now, will update, if any success.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Teeth on February 19, 2013, 04:05:18 pm
"Leave the waging of wars to others! But you, happy Austria Bohemia, marry; for the realms which Mars awards to others, Venus transfers to you."

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Light green are Personal Unions, darker green are allies, light blue are royal marriages. Spamming them marriages all over the place, so far it got me a Personal Union with Brandenburg, Brunswick, Byzantium, Naples and Armagnac. You can eventually inherit their entire stuff right, with cores and everything? Cause I can integrate Brandenburg as well, but having 4 unlawful territories will rape my infamy.

This is the political map. I am 100 Imperial Authority away from forming the HRE, so I might even get there before 1500. Trying to form the HRE is fun, wars everywhere.
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I love how this thing looks when I am Emperor and Papal Controller. Liberating countries gets you a lot of allies, it is getting kinda annoying to click all of the messages away when I get attacked and they join me.
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Somehow, the game is running more or less fine on my other PC.

Anyhow, here is a challenge to you, EU3 pros: recreate Byzantine Empire! As in, starting with the Byzantine faction and recovering its territories pre-turk invasion.

I will probably be trying this myself now, will update, if any success.
That was actually what I was planning on doing on my next game, I have been supporting Byzantium a little in this one and they do alright.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on February 19, 2013, 04:20:04 pm
Anyhow, here is a challenge to you, EU3 pros: recreate Byzantine Empire! As in, starting with the Byzantine faction and recovering its territories pre-turk invasion.

I will probably be trying this myself now, will update, if any success.

You mean, like this?

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Actually this was my idea for a second campaign as well, I will keep using Death & Taxes mod though because I like it now more.
But I remember the vanilla start date looked insane, Byz only has Constantinople and some small insignificant island, right?

Also I might go for a bit of a converting playstyle, in my Hungary one I let everyone practice what they wanted, now I'll do otherwise.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Teeth on February 19, 2013, 08:20:40 pm
Didn't even know that the second to last reform for the HRE is vassalizing all countries, pretty hilarious to declare war on someone, press 5 speed and wait until they have taken all the territory in your name.

This is what happens when the Golden Horse does it's automatic war declaring and my allies can't find their way there. All my German buddies are so confused.
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The last reform took a little longer than expected, because turns out that when all of the HRE members are in one fucking huge alliance no one dares to attack them anymore. Luckily the Reformation quickly converted some small German states to Protestantism, who I then bullied back to Catholicism all at once. And here we are, I think this has been the fastest expansion I have done.

Oh dear,
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Overextension, what a surprise. I tried to find out how many provinces I had, but the graph displayed that I had 1, think the HRE breaks the game.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on February 19, 2013, 09:49:15 pm
Dat HRE, and in the early 1500's.

Holy mother of god.  :wink:

Question, can you become "Germany" like this now? You seem to hold everything there, I don't know much about german stuff and how the HRE works.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Teeth on February 19, 2013, 10:02:44 pm
I think as my original culture is Czech I don't get the decision as an option even. I don't see it. I don't mind though, the Holy Roman Empire is way more awesome. I renamed Bohemia to New Rome. Fuck you Pope.

Doubt I will be playing this game much longer though. I am ten years further now, with about 3 rebellions every month still, got about 120k troops now and I still make about 600 yearly without putting military maintainance down and without inflation increasing. Castille is the second military nation with 60k troops. The way to becoming an OP powerhouse is always more interesting than being an OP powerhouse. Sadly this has caused me to never progress beyond like 1700 with a normal start game.

Well, time for the Byzantines then.

Oh, it does the province count now and I apparently have 144. Damn, I knew central Europe had small provinces but I didn't expect that many.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: SeQuel on February 20, 2013, 05:44:48 am
I think as my original culture is Czech I don't get the decision as an option even. I don't see it. I don't mind though, the Holy Roman Empire is way more awesome. I renamed Bohemia to New Rome. Fuck you Pope.

Doubt I will be playing this game much longer though. I am ten years further now, with about 3 rebellions every month still, got about 120k troops now and I still make about 600 yearly without putting military maintainance down and without inflation increasing. Castille is the second military nation with 60k troops. The way to becoming an OP powerhouse is always more interesting than being an OP powerhouse. Sadly this has caused me to never progress beyond like 1700 with a normal start game.

Well, time for the Byzantines then.

Oh, it does the province count now and I apparently have 144. Damn, I knew central Europe had small provinces but I didn't expect that many.

Play Death and Taxes mod, a lot more countries stay alive to end date so you have more power houses to fight than the normal 1.

But yah, it comes to a point where you just win..

Only game I've ever finished I played with a friend and played as Portugal and colonized ALL of South America.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on February 20, 2013, 09:08:28 am
You can fix overextension by pushing the decentralisation slider.

But yeah at this moment you pretty much won. That's the biggest problem with EU3 IMO. It is always much more difficult when you start, and gets easier as you develop. In all my playthroughs I think I was forced to give a province to the AI a handful of times.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: [ptx] on February 20, 2013, 01:35:31 pm
Alright, here is a Q, since i seem to be missing something.
Trying a game as England, wage war on France.

First war was good, i would've actually won it, if not for Scotland joining in late on french side.

Every next war? Get stomped with casualty ratio 10:1 in every battle, regardless of whether or not i am outnumbered, am defending a crossing, have decent rolls, better generals or whatever... what gives?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on February 20, 2013, 07:09:59 pm
It's maybe my strategy and view on this, but I'd start with taking the British Isles under English control first, this way nothing can stab you in the back, only fleets which you can hold off with your royal fleet of doom.
(+Forming Great Britain in 15th-6th century is lulz)

So, blitz the hell out of Ireland first if you can (getting the "Conquer Ireland!" mission will speed this up fast, then if you're lucky you gain a CB against Scotland too at some point, or do it whichever way you'd like. Ireland isn't that much of a threat anyway, might start with the bigger problem.

As for France, you play with Lucky Nations? I heard it's complete balls and people advised on not using it.
Also it's obvious that you're at a disadvantage on their lands, you need to constantly ship troops and France is a huge landmass with insane manpower, they can mass-recruit in safer lands. Getting some of France's rivals on your side might help.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: [ptx] on February 20, 2013, 07:25:08 pm
I annexed Scotland the next chance i got, got Ireland being mostly neutralised (Tyrone split between me and Brittany).
Hadn't even checked that, that sounds about what might be screwing my game up. Am sooooooo turning that off, thanks!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Cyber on February 20, 2013, 09:29:29 pm
I think i spent over 500h on EU3 and never finished a single SP game, most of the time you can stomp everyone after like 200-300 years so thats when I usually stop and i'm too much of a pussy to play something like chimu, MP is where most of the fun is at imo. After M&B2 it's probably my most anticipated game.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on February 20, 2013, 11:16:27 pm
After M&B2 it's probably my most anticipated game.

Greetings, fellow time traveler.

How are you today?  :wink:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Teeth on February 20, 2013, 11:56:36 pm
As for France, you play with Lucky Nations? I heard it's complete balls and people advised on not using it.
The term 'Lucky Nations' alone was enough reason for me to turn it off. You are playing a game where you can shape an alternate history, how is it fun to have the same half a dozen superpowers everytime?

As for playing England, abandon mainland Europe, unite Great Britain, build 50 Carracks and laugh at the silly French 80 army at the other side of the pond. Then colonize all of Murica and come back later with a 200k Europe invasion force. When I played England till about 1700 I never had more than a 10k army sitting in Britain, not a single enemy ever set foot on my lands after I united it. That was one of my first games and I had 70 ships covering 160 overseas provinces, don't do that. I just couldn't figure out why my tarrifs were so low :rolleyes:

Trying to hold your mainland stuff is a fucking pain and not worth it in my opinion, but perhaps it is a nice challenge cause otherwise England is a walk in the park. For the battles thing, maybe it has to do with discipline, with yours being very low or something. I have never been entirely sure what it does.

You can fix overextension by pushing the decentralisation slider.
I find overextension not that bad to be honest, as soon as the nationalism fades out there will be hardly any rebellions, especially with some courthouses. Besides, I can spare a few thousand troops as civil police. Nationalism just lasts 30 years, hardly a much slower solution than pushing sliders back to craptown. I have only 20% cores anyway, so I think I will just have to live with overextension for at least 50 years. I thought I would get cores on all of the HRE members provinces, but turns out you only get cores on a few central German provinces. Yet with 80% non cores I already get 5k a year which is 5 times what Castille gets, the second economy, HRE is truly redonkeylous.

I think i spent over 500h on EU3 and never finished a single SP game, most of the time you can stomp everyone after like 200-300 years so thats when I usually stop and i'm too much of a pussy to play something like chimu, MP is where most of the fun is at imo.
In my experience playing multiplayer reduces the 'time until you can stomp everyone' by about 300%, which makes it more boring to me than the singleplayer. I have only played fully cooperatively though. Playing competitively wouldn't seem that much fun to me, because the guy who selects the more powerful starting nation wins.

Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Teeth on February 21, 2013, 12:11:48 am
I have started a Byzantium game. Doublepost because the other one was already way too big. You were right ptx, it is very challenging. One redeeming thing about Byzantium is that it has a lot of claims and cores.

I was off to an amazing start though, I was honestly pretty proud of how that all unfolded (after having had to restart twice because I doomed my nation). I expanded from 2 to 9 provinces in 8 years, uhuh.

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Almost twenty fucking years later now though and I barely managed to do anything. I hold 12 provinces now. My economy is incredibly weak and unfavourable sliders make trading a no go. I ramped up some crazy war exhaustion trying to hold Trebizond from the Qara something nomads, did not succeed, got a 12k rebellion in Athens now. Now a bad thing about having a shit ton of claims is that it gives you negative prestige, -8 percent a year. The only noteworthy ally that I managed to secure, Hungary, is getting fucked by Bohemia, Austria and Poland. Getting any other alliances with this prestige and having a different faith is pretty much impossible. So it's up to me now, without any small unallied nations in sight. Basically hoping that Ottomans will soon crash and burn and that I can secure some wreckage.

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Worst thing though is having a lot of water in between territories and having no money or naval unit limits to increase my navy much. Meaning that any war with a power with a more powerful navy is incredibly hard to fight. Ferrying over 9k troops with 4 cogs all the time is a pain as well.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on February 21, 2013, 01:39:29 am
Death&Taxes has a lot more manageable Byzantium start, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on February 21, 2013, 02:28:19 am
I have heard of MP communities in EU3 playing the game in a balance-of-power-ey fashion. When one of them really is too far ahead, others will team up against that guy. If someone is in particularly bad shape, others will help him. Winning a war over another player doesn't mean you will instantly crush him. Artificial, and requires likeminded people, but quite fun.

Also, playing cooperatively with ultra hard nations can be fun, but not for very long. I also like playing coop with countries that never ever would have done it in history (like aragon and morocco for example).

I always disable lucky nations. It just feels like too much cheating from the AI.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: SeQuel on February 21, 2013, 03:11:59 am
Idk how these big EU3 game actually manage to play. Whenever I play with more than 2 people others get Out of Sync error and then they're behind a few days and requires us to restart the game which takes forever, it's painful. I hope they fix multiplayer games and make them more....friendly and not annoying.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Cyber on February 21, 2013, 09:59:38 am
If you want to have easier time as Byzantium you could try starting at 1405.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Overdriven on February 21, 2013, 10:14:23 am
Just bought the 3rd after reading about it from you guys. After the initial 'WTF have I bought' situation where the interface ect made my head bulge to the point of near explosion I think I'm finally beginning to get the hang of things.

Playing as England, after fighting one war on the mainland against Brittany and France I decided to simply forget the territories there and let them do their own thing. Then I got the take over Ireland mission so I'm now working on that. Fought a couple of wars, captured and annexed Ulster and Connaught and now need to work on Munster and Leinster. Only issue is I can't really see any easy way of declaring war on them without out right doing so and ruining my prestige and stability. Bit of pain, the only other way I can see is via the spy option. Most of the other options won't work in this situation as far as I can see.

Edit: Well Scotland kind of decided things for me. France, Brittany and Scotland attacked me at the same time but seeing as I'm ignoring the mainland I could focus on Scotland, took over them easily enough and left them with one province. Now I can concentrate on Ireland again.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Teeth on February 21, 2013, 03:56:42 pm
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Again almost twenty years later, expanded a little, but not much. Finally took over those prick islands Rhodes and Cyprus, which were finally not being guaranteed by every European superpower. Except Castille, but they had very little boats, so I took my chances. Also took over Kaffa, which rebelled itself to independence and I had a core there, because messing with the Golden Horde is always a good idea. At this point though I put a lot of money in construction and I had a pretty decent economy, a bigger fleet and a decent army.

At this point I had survived a war with Mamluks. I vanquished their armies in my mountains but went for a quick white peace because all my cores in Asia Minor would be gone in 6 years. So I started prepping for a war with Ottomans. I am a medium sized power at this point, but Ottomans were still the largest economic power, had a 40k army and had a way bigger fleet than I did. My prestige is beautiful.

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When they were in a deep war with the Golden Horde, had some rebellions and had their armies up north fighting the Horde, I funded some Greek patriots in Greece and assaulted western Asia Minor. Hungary actually finally turned out to be a useful ally, fighting the buffer vassals Serbia and Bosnia which the Ottomans have had since the start and helping my patriots out in Greece. Hungary pussied out rather quickly though, but then Bulgarian patriots started taking over stuff. Luckily they managed to leave my Greek Patriots alone. Golden Horde fought them up in their lands. At this point I got in a war with the Golden Horde as well, I let them take back Kaffa, because dozens of Turkish rebellions started popping up. Kaffa is now a core for another 50 years so I'll be back  8-)

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I made peace one day before all my cores expired, trying to get the maximum amount of cored provinces. 4 of the formerly Ottoman provinces in the Greek mainland defected to me during the war due to the Greek patriots I funded, a greater success than I could have ever imagined. Patriots are awesome. When the province defects the patriot army actually becomes yours. The army on the above screen that is besieging Bosnia in Serbia were the patriots I funded in Larissa. :D

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So I now own 23 provinces of which only Mus and Smyrna (which somehow lost its core a year before the others) are not cores. The Ottomans are going to be zerg rushed by the Golden Horde and Qara something, so in five years I will either attack Ottomans again or start colonizing nomads. Mamluks are about equal now with me in terms of economy, but I have a brain. Sadly I did not end the vassalages of Serbia and Bosnia. They are my Orthodox brothers so I will be looking to vassalize them myself and use them as buffers while I expand to the east and south for now. One more slider move and I will be able to westernize if Naples gets a bit more ahead of me. So yeah, it's looking pretty good now.

Will upload again when I get anywhere close to this  :wink:
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on February 21, 2013, 04:10:17 pm
I like how this is becoming an AAR thread of EU3, despite the Title.

OP might change it, would be cool. It's not really about the IVth game, but EU in general.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Overdriven on February 21, 2013, 08:47:03 pm
Ok how is it possible that France have invaded me with 50k men in 1465...

Edit: I'd been at war with them before but I think the max they had was 10k which I could easily handle with my 16k army. Then this time they hit me with a ton of different armies, their royal army alone consisted of over 25k troops. They desimated my armies and pretty much steamrolled Ireland and then started on England. At that point I raged and decided to revert to my save from earlier this evening.

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Considering this is my first game so I'm a nub  :)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Teeth on February 21, 2013, 09:25:23 pm
Did you get the Europa Universalis III Complete pack by any chance? You have no magistrate bar, no legitimacy either and the entire interface is different. Graphics look shit as well. Europa Universalis 3 Complete does not in fact include the last two expansions, I agree that the name is highly confusing and poorly chosen. I highly encourage you to think about buying the two expansions or Europa Universalis 3 Chronicles, because as far as I know they indisputably improve the game a lot.

I've heard that the way the game works can differ massively between the different versions, so I really can't comment on this, as I have only played Divine Wind.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Overdriven on February 21, 2013, 09:31:34 pm
Ah ok no I didn't get those. I saw the expansions were separate but didn't think it would matter much. I'll take a look at them. And yeah complete pack is a bit of a daft title  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 21, 2013, 11:00:03 pm
I've heard that the way the game works can differ massively between the different versions, so I really can't comment on this, as I have only played Divine Wind.
It does, originally just got the original version some time back, recently got Chronicles, HUGE difference, Chronicles is much better overall, graphics are capable of being looked at (and grands a decent overview), GK is much more aggresive and fun in Chronicles, there are real differences in the countries you pick besides starting conditions, shitload of other nice features, and with all the expansions it is a lot more difficult.
It also once again proves that 2d is the only way for strategy games to go.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Zanze on February 22, 2013, 12:54:37 am
For those crazy EU3 players, a Georgia, Jalayrid, or Ryukyu campaign are some of the craziest I've had. Very fun and aggravating. (The Ryukyu one seems simple at first, but once Europe sees you... Lets just say you will never be at peace again)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Kafein on February 23, 2013, 12:11:57 am
I started a Dai Viet campaign just for fun, not really intending to do anything grand.

In a successfull attempt to reenact a war yet to come, I first swiftly annexed my southern neighbour. I thought being of different religions would give me a CB, turns out we were in the same group. I declared war anyway. We gained control over Vijaya and Panduranga, uniting all of modern Vietnam under our banner.

At that point I started a very uneventful series of royal marriages with everybody. If "harassment" could be judged by international laws, khmer would probably have filed a case against me. It seems though that it was all vain, as our nation was more frequently guided by a regency than an actual monarch. Lucky for us, kings in the whole region suffered from the same exceptionally poor life expectancy and fertility. I did also behave very aggressively, claiming thrones left and right, which most of my neighbours didn't like at all.

After a while, we somehow obtained claims on a Siem Reap, owned by khmer. It is still mysterious to me why exactly we received this as that province was only adjacent to one of the provinces we just had taken from Champa (south vietnam), and had of course no legitimity to hold it. Anyway, our monarch jumped on the occasion and we won a very clean war, taking the province with us.

The events that follow were quite messy but I'm pretty sure they involve freeing a 1-province Ayutthaya in Rayong from the korean dominion (yes, Korea had the great idea to take land over there) and quickly turning them into vassals. And also retaking Prey Konor lost by those lazy Khmer to the Malaccans, in the name of religious protection.

The state of the country in 1480 :

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I surprisingly managed to maintain decent relations with China. But Pegu, which is way too powerful, hates me, along with everybody I know except Tibet (yay !), Manchu (yay !) and Ayatthaya (which are my vassals anyway). That would be fine if said Pegu didn't had a core on Rayong, which means I'm very regularly at war with them.

I got rich provinces and only one is uncored, but I had to use mercs in my first war against Pegu and my inflation is off the charts.


All in all, I made a lot of bad decisions early on and I don't think I'll be playing this save again xD
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Christo on February 23, 2013, 12:08:57 pm
An interesting decision, while playing Byz caught my eyes:

"Restore Roman Empire"

lolwut. Googling it gave me this:

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This must be a D&T mod only thing, right?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: SeQuel on February 23, 2013, 06:35:57 pm
I like how this is becoming an AAR thread of EU3, despite the Title.

OP might change it, would be cool. It's not really about the IVth game, but EU in general.  :mrgreen:

Changed.

An interesting decision, while playing Byz caught my eyes:

"Restore Roman Empire"

lolwut. Googling it gave me this:

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This must be a D&T mod only thing, right?

Yes, D&T added that formable nation in.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on February 23, 2013, 07:22:57 pm
It's pretty hilarious though, imagine Roman soldiers with Muskets, Scots attacking Hadrian's wall wearing kilts while playing the bagpipes  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis IV
Post by: Teeth on February 23, 2013, 07:29:23 pm
Mmh, now my Byzantine Empire suddenly seems less impressive, but I believe he started earlier and in a better position than me.

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Serbia, Bosnia, Georgia and Mamluks are my vassals. I love having vassals, they take care of rebellions and siege for you and stuff, makes being a warmonger so much more relaxing.

50 years since I stopped being the Ottoman's bitch and made them my bitch. I have been expanding in a balls to the wall fashion since then. I usually play in a more conserved fashion and slowly expand, but not this time. Overextension keeps happening/disappearing. My infamy is at the max now. I had a mission to conquer Southern Italy, which meant 3 provinces held by Naples, including their capital. So I had the conquest Casus Belli on those three exclusively and I would get cores on them if I took them. Sadly you can't take a capital city unless you annex the whole deal, which I did for a gruesome 20 infamy. Probably a bad move because this slows me down incredibly, although I am thinking about giving the finger to my infamy limit.

Somehow France got destroyed in my game and Castille did not really expand into Africa. I got myself into a war with Castille and made them release Granada, Aragon and Galicia, basically to prevent them from rising to supersuperpowerdom as the colonizing era has started, this should slow them down significantly. Burgundy is really the only major power, they maintain double my army, with half my economy and I get -20 a month when I do not gain inflation. I expanded far enough to the East in my opinion so I am trying to weaken Golden Horde significantly, because they will be my neighbours for the rest of the game. I want to have them release all their vassals, which is most of the orthodox/Russian countries.

I intend to at least get my borders beyond the picture, just to have a clear goal. I hope to get there in another 50 years. Then maybe expand to the Old Roman Empire borders, depending on if I get bored. I am starting to really feel the technology difference now though when fighting Western countries.

Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zanze on February 23, 2013, 08:02:08 pm
D&T is VERY and extremely Pro-Roman.

Nice empire you got there Teeth. I love vassals as well, everyone else I play with hates them. Vassals / PU's rock.

From what I see, just make sure to repay your loans on time. Try and avoid taking loans, and don't pass your infamy limit. Everyone will hate you, ESPECIALLY your own country. Nasty events.

Burgundy will probably be the most annoying if they get HRE emp. Otherwise, it looks like you have it in the bag. Castille isn't as hard to beat as many people say, Austria doesn't look like it has its main OP provinces either. Probably want to finish Africa while you are there, start coring Morocco when you can to expand to new world. They also have a few nice provinces on that side.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on February 23, 2013, 09:30:40 pm
Mmh, now my Byzantine Empire suddenly seems less impressive, but I believe he started earlier and in a better position than me.

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Serbia, Bosnia, Georgia and Mamluks are my vassals. I love having vassals, they take care of rebellions and siege for you and stuff, makes being a warmonger so much more relaxing.

50 years since I stopped being the Ottoman's bitch and made them my bitch. I have been expanding in a balls to the wall fashion since then. I usually play in a more conserved fashion and slowly expand, but not this time. Overextension keeps happening/disappearing. My infamy is at the max now. I had a mission to conquer Southern Italy, which meant 3 provinces held by Naples, including their capital. So I had the conquest Casus Belli on those three exclusively and I would get cores on them if I took them. Sadly you can't take a capital city unless you annex the whole deal, which I did for a gruesome 20 infamy. Probably a bad move because this slows me down incredibly, although I am thinking about giving the finger to my infamy limit.

Somehow France got destroyed in my game and Castille did not really expand into Africa. I got myself into a war with Castille and made them release Granada, Aragon and Galicia, basically to prevent them from rising to supersuperpowerdom as the colonizing era has started, this should slow them down significantly. Burgundy is really the only major power, they maintain double my army, with half my economy and I get -20 a month when I do not gain inflation. I expanded far enough to the East in my opinion so I am trying to weaken Golden Horde significantly, because they will be my neighbours for the rest of the game. I want to have them release all their vassals, which is most of the orthodox/Russian countries.

I intend to at least get my borders beyond the picture, just to have a clear goal. I hope to get there in another 50 years. Then maybe expand to the Old Roman Empire borders, depending on if I get bored. I am starting to really feel the technology difference now though when fighting Western countries.



D&T starts 50 years earlier, but it's also harder to start as Byz then in Vanilla.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 24, 2013, 06:00:01 am
Started a game as Orleans, after breaking off from France and having to fend off several attempts at getting me back into them, while also expanding a bit on the side ofc, a massive amount of nations declared war on France and especially Burgundy steamrolled them, I had a treaty with them so I had to declare war on a vassal to get in on the fun. France pretty much losses all its land in a year, peace is made with them being like half their original size, only for another war on France to shortly after erupt. Second war goes a lot like the first one, because I didn't want other stronger nations gaining from the destruction of France I made a peace which freed nations in the provinces other nations had captured. I finally follow up with breaking my truce right afterwards and taking everything that's left but a single province, sure I ended up with like 35 infamy, but fuck it.

Also amazed at England pretty much losing all its land to the Scottish.
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Overdriven on February 24, 2013, 07:57:34 am
Bought the expansions and trying with England again. Took over Ireland and Scotland easily enough, although there was a bit of a dickish situation where France made Scotland their vassals after I took all their provinces and France then annexed the final province. Meaning I had to go full scale war with France over one poxy Scottish province  :| A couple of missions included build a larger army than France (sod that they have a huge one) and a bigger navy (easy).

I've been steadily upgrading ever since and now I'm focusing on the colonial side. After taking Greenland I started on Canada and am now moving down into the US and Caribbean after getting missions to take there. Main issue I have is funds, keep getting deficits every now and then and struggling to right that. I think that may possibly be because my standing army is to large maybe. I think I have a complex after being attacked so much by France in my first game on vanilla. I should probably reduce those and simply concentrate on my navy. Pretty much just learning the game atm so thought I'd do the colonial thing which seems relatively simple.

Expansions do seem nicer I must say. My only issue is legitimacy. My legitimacy is always bad.

Also amazed at England pretty much losing all its land to the Scottish.

Looks like they got hit from several directions. I know how that feels, I was attacked by France, Brittany and a couple of others, then as I was fending them off the Scots decided to jump in and ended up taking my Northern provinces before I could fend them off as well.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Teeth on February 24, 2013, 07:20:18 pm
From what I see, just make sure to repay your loans on time. Try and avoid taking loans, and don't pass your infamy limit. Everyone will hate you, ESPECIALLY your own country. Nasty events.
I was really mad about that loan, I had 3 gold and a positive monthly balance, yet I somehow ran out of cash. I did a save to test what would happen if I passed my infamy limit, I read somewhere it was considered a good way to do very quick expanding, but at a risk of getting yourself in too many wars. That sounded okay to me, but they forgot to tell me that I would get a strong revolt in a random province like every month. I had a 26k rebellion popping up, jeez.

So yeah, I won't be passing my infamy limit, that shit is ridiculous.

D&T starts 50 years earlier, but it's also harder to start as Byz then in Vanilla.
Wat? I just downloaded D&T and they have 3 provinces together, 2.5x the army, a friggin CoT, weak ass Ottomans, plenty of small factions to prey on and a way better economy. Surely that beats having two spread out provinces, a 3k army, a superpower breathing in your neck and being dirt poor.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on February 24, 2013, 07:29:34 pm
Bought the expansions and trying with England again. Took over Ireland and Scotland easily enough, although there was a bit of a dickish situation where France made Scotland their vassals after I took all their provinces and France then annexed the final province. Meaning I had to go full scale war with France over one poxy Scottish province  :| A couple of missions included build a larger army than France (sod that they have a huge one) and a bigger navy (easy).

I've been steadily upgrading ever since and now I'm focusing on the colonial side. After taking Greenland I started on Canada and am now moving down into the US and Caribbean after getting missions to take there. Main issue I have is funds, keep getting deficits every now and then and struggling to right that. I think that may possibly be because my standing army is to large maybe. I think I have a complex after being attacked so much by France in my first game on vanilla. I should probably reduce those and simply concentrate on my navy. Pretty much just learning the game atm so thought I'd do the colonial thing which seems relatively simple.

Expansions do seem nicer I must say. My only issue is legitimacy. My legitimacy is always bad.

Looks like they got hit from several directions. I know how that feels, I was attacked by France, Brittany and a couple of others, then as I was fending them off the Scots decided to jump in and ended up taking my Northern provinces before I could fend them off as well.

Be careful, for each province that you're colonizing you pay a colonizing fee for sustaining it until it becomes self sustainable (I.E becomes your province @ 1000 population). You can see it under the financial tab.

I was really mad about that loan, I had 3 gold and a positive monthly balance, yet I somehow ran out of cash. I did a save to test what would happen if I passed my infamy limit, I read somewhere it was considered a good way to do very quick expanding, but at a risk of getting yourself in too many wars. That sounded okay to me, but they forgot to tell me that I would get a strong revolt in a random province like every month. I had a 26k rebellion popping up, jeez.

So yeah, I won't be passing my infamy limit, that shit is ridiculous.
Wat? I just downloaded D&T and they have 3 provinces together, 2.5x the army, a friggin CoT, weak ass Ottomans, plenty of small factions to prey on and a way better economy. Surely that beats having two spread out provinces, a 3k army, a superpower breathing in your neck and being dirt poor.

Ottomans can declare war on you at any time and unlike in Vanilla where you can cut them off from getting to Constantinople with ships there is a second land bridge D&T added in to get to you. Ottomans also start with a larger fleet and can field a 25~k army.

Also if you expand to far into Ottomans if you manage to survive that Manlukes can pull a CB on you over Ottomans territory who can field a 40-50k army.

Also expanding to these smaller nations are generally protected by much bigger nations just like in Vanilla. I found Byrz harder in D&T personally.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Teeth on February 24, 2013, 07:42:30 pm
Ottomans can declare war on you at any time and unlike in Vanilla where you can cut them off from getting to Constantinople with ships there is a second land bridge D&T added in to get to you. Ottomans also start with a larger fleet and can field a 25~k army.
With what navy would you cut them off? Ottomans start with like 12 galleys, while you have a naval force limit of like 9. Besides, Ottomans have half their provinces on the same landmass as Constantinople. Can't the Ottomans declare war on you at any time in Vanilla, I thought I was just lucky they didn't? Ottomants also field a 20-25k army in Vanilla right off the bat, compared to your 3k.

Looking at things Byzantium seems a shitload easier on D&T, but I don't know how the mod works.

Also amazed at England pretty much losing all its land to the Scottish.
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I am more amazed at Castille losing a lot of land to Aragon. Englang has gotten fucked in several of my games, Castille never has gotten fucked without my interference.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Overdriven on February 24, 2013, 11:03:47 pm
Be careful, for each province that you're colonizing you pay a colonizing fee for sustaining it until it becomes self sustainable (I.E becomes your province @ 1000 population). You can see it under the financial tab.

Yup I noticed that colonising fee. I held on till a few of my colonies became full towns so that eased a bit and now I'm more careful. I reduced my standing army and also finally learnt exactly how to manage the treasury slider and tech sliders. I now have about 500 ducats coming in annually. Basically upgrading everything, colonising fast and just kicked Austria's arse out of North America after a war with Austria and Castille.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 24, 2013, 11:04:50 pm
Looking at things Byzantium seems a shitload easier on D&T, but I don't know how the mod works.
I am more amazed at Castille losing a lot of land to Aragon. Englang has gotten fucked in several of my games, Castille never has gotten fucked without my interference.
I've never had a game stretching somewhat far were Castille didn't get completely fucked, England however is mostly a superpower.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on February 25, 2013, 02:07:35 am
With what navy would you cut them off? Ottomans start with like 12 galleys, while you have a naval force limit of like 9. Besides, Ottomans have half their provinces on the same landmass as Constantinople. Can't the Ottomans declare war on you at any time in Vanilla, I thought I was just lucky they didn't? Ottomants also field a 20-25k army in Vanilla right off the bat, compared to your 3k.

An extremely easy tactic you can use as Byz in Vanilla is go over Navy Limit with inflation and destroying their navy and blocking their huge armies from coming over while you take everything on your side. Since their navy is dead you can disband what you don't need and decrease inflation again for a easy start. You can abuse that little gap really easy.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Overdriven on February 25, 2013, 11:09:09 am
Aragon have been slowly taking out Castille on my game as well. France and Austria are my biggest rivals although France only on the continent, Austria has been a bitch in the Americas. After a 3rd war with Austria and Castille after them and their entire alliance attacked me (around 10 nations) I ended up forcing them into a peace deal which meant they have given up pretty much all of their colonies. I gained the majority of the Carribean, a couple of American provinces and also have begun colonising South Africa. The Hansa tried to invade the UK a few times but soon sued for peace after I sunk their fleets. Leaving just the colonial wars.

All in all it's going rather well at the moment. I've focused heavily on naval power, sinking a lot of funds into fleets so I've managed to limit a lot of reinforcement opportunities during the wars

My world map at 1586:
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Teeth on February 25, 2013, 12:14:43 pm
You might want to consider moving your colonizing efforts to the southeast corner of North America, Florida and stuff. Those lands that are now held by a native faction, you can seize those provinces easily if you can take the 1 infamy per province. Those provinces are where the good trade/production goods are at like coffee, cotton and sugar, compared to the mediocre fur and horrible naval supplies up north. Provided if you have the colonial range of course, if not, should have gotten Madeira as early as possible  8-)

And what the fuck, in your game as well as Zlisch's Aragon and Portugal actually take provinces from Castille. How does that even work? This has never, and I mean never happened in all of my dozen games. Castille usually unites Iberia in a pinch and then takes all of fucking North Africa, then it becomes a colonizing power the size of an elephant.

An extremely easy tactic you can use as Byz in Vanilla is go over Navy Limit with inflation and destroying their navy and blocking their huge armies from coming over while you take everything on your side. Since their navy is dead you can disband what you don't need and decrease inflation again for a easy start. You can abuse that little gap really easy.
Didn't think of such dastardly tactics :P

Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: [ptx] on February 25, 2013, 12:26:27 pm
I've had Portugal and Aragon smash Castille in a pincer grip in my game as England as well, i even helped a bit.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Overdriven on February 25, 2013, 01:14:38 pm
You might want to consider moving your colonizing efforts to the southeast corner of North America, Florida and stuff. Those lands that are now held by a native faction, you can seize those provinces easily if you can take the 1 infamy per province. Those provinces are where the good trade/production goods are at like coffee, cotton and sugar, compared to the mediocre fur and horrible naval supplies up north. Provided if you have the colonial range of course, if not, should have gotten Madeira as early as possible  8-)

And what the fuck, in your game as well as Zlisch's Aragon and Portugal actually take provinces from Castille. How does that even work? This has never, and I mean never happened in all of my dozen games. Castille usually unites Iberia in a pinch and then takes all of fucking North Africa, then it becomes a colonizing power the size of an elephant.
Didn't think of such dastardly tactics :P

Yeah I was trying on Florida but my last attempt failed. Unfortunately that faction in the South-East corner is Portugal, not a native. Seeing as I just got out of a costly war with Austria I'm going to hold off attacking them for a while. I have a little more space to expand on the coast, then I'll expand along Africa as well. In the mean time I'll work on making a war with Portugal feasible. It will require a lot of ships I think. Plus I need to get my infamy down. Stealing all those colonies from Austria and Castille cost me 30 infamy as I was the defender. So will take a few years to reduce that.

Lol well in mine I think France and Castille fought it out for a time and in the process Castille got a bit raped. Portugal I think went to war with them around the same time and I guess Aragon must have snuck in there. They haven't been doing much for a while though and I think Castille is now very weak, especially after I stole a lot of their colonies.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on February 25, 2013, 02:56:04 pm
Plus I need to get my infamy down.

Some cool stuff I figured out by myself too late, you might know this already who knows.

Get an embassy, sadly you need to re-construct it very often, so keep watching if it's still up

Get an artist, then spam "Comission Painting" if you can afford the magistrates. Boost your cult. tradition up the skies, then recruit an advisor that reduces infamy. Bam. Enjoy your -0.30 infamy advisor.

Also if you get nice tech, the national idea "Cabinet" is another -1.00 infamy per year. Yes, per year.  :)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 25, 2013, 03:28:10 pm
Can't believe you still got native American nations left Overdriven, all mine usually die shortly after colonization starts.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Overdriven on February 25, 2013, 03:31:53 pm
I've been leaving them alone and focusing on the coastline/carribean for now. Portugal is the only other nation, now that Austria are out of it, that is really colonising anything in the US so got plenty of time  :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 28, 2013, 02:03:41 am
How the hell does some African nation I declare war on to not be bothered by the emperor about half my fiefs being stolen imperial property turn out to have over 2k gold.  :lol: Easiest money ever.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on February 28, 2013, 10:57:33 am
I just realised, Mazovia has like 5 provinces on Teeth's HRE pic. That is more awesome than forming the HRE in 1500 xD
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Teeth on February 28, 2013, 11:12:36 am
I just realised, Mazovia has like 5 provinces on Teeth's HRE pic. That is more awesome than forming the HRE in 1500 xD
I'm sorry to have to tell you this but Mazovia does not exist in that game anymore :twisted:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zanze on February 28, 2013, 05:15:53 pm
Pfft. In my latest game Transylvania ALMOST took over Europe. Almost.

They took the entire Balkan area, a chunk of Greece, all of Hungary, some of Poland. It started getting tough for them it looked like when they started fighting Austria. They won the first war and took two provinces. However, the second war wasn't so pretty. Bavaria was the emperor during the first war and for whatever reason didn't mind good ol' Vlad eating Austria. Austria became Emperor for the second war. They fought to a stalemate, then Aragon (Which had been a very large power in Anatolia) decided to join in. Aragon's rival DENMARK (Another large power in Anatolia & Ukraine. Yes Turk-land and Ukraine) joined in. Transyl got beat back, was forced to release some minor countries that got eaten up soon... parts of Greece and the Moldavia region were ceded to Aragon and Denmark.

Had to reload a save just to see what happened though. Was playing Georgia -> Transcaucasia so I just saw Vlad go from tiny to omgwtfbbq big and then small again and got a little confused. For those who haven't played Georgia, you don't get time to chill out and look at other peoples stuff. You just kinda go with whatever is given to you and try to survive. Though I may have taken the things given to me a little freely too much...

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Overdriven on February 28, 2013, 10:42:09 pm
Well I'm tempted to start a new game with someone a bit different. Reached the mid-1600's and pretty much solely down to my fleet of 200 ships if I go to war with someone there is not a damn thing they can do about it. The only thing stopping me stomping the America's is the infamy. I took all of Portugal's holdings with barely any fight from them as I had sunk all their ships and they only had two core provinces in NA to build troops. The only issue was if I annexed them and took them all it would cost me 80 infamy  :lol: So I decided to only Annex the ones which would join my separated provinces together so now I have 30 infamy. Bit annoying as in an out right war I could stomp so easily otherwise. But alas I have to take my time. Or just risk pissing every other nation off I suppose.

Portugal has that annoying Green blotch in just North East of Florida. It shrunk by just over 1/3 after I annexed provinces so they were pretty big:
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on March 01, 2013, 12:00:08 am
This thread made me start playing again. Al thou I play the Death & Taxes mod. I'm sick of vanilla EU3 :P

Anyway started out with Sweden (obviously my favorite country). Suprisingly Norway sided with me against Denmark when they declared war, so I won it quite easily since Holstein and Hansa decided to help me as well. Won back Skåne and Halland early in the game.

Norway stayed as my allies, so did The Hansa when I declared war against the Teutonic Order to win some balticum provinces. Norway made peace with TO pretty early and the sneaky fuckers joined up Denmark when they declared war against me (Holstein and Hansa stayed out, bastards!) during my assualt on zie german templars. Al thou I manage to win 3 provinces from zie german templols and could focus on Den/Nor. Luckily they assualted during a siege with their combined 24k army, so I just charged in and killed them off with my 14k army, due to low morale. Thanks AI!

Now I just recovered from a bankruptcy and shitloads of rebellions. -3 stability is bad mmkay.

So far all good 8-)

Will post a screen when I play 100 years at least
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on March 01, 2013, 12:12:38 am
I'm sorry to have to tell you this but Mazovia does not exist in that game anymore :twisted:

Btw I had salzburg vassalizing austria in one of my games :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on March 01, 2013, 01:19:29 am
salzburg vassalizing austria

lol
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 01, 2013, 02:04:01 am
Btw I had salzburg vassalizing austria in one of my games :D
Not really that strange, Austria pretty much always get into a gigantic war with the vast majority of HRE against them.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 01, 2013, 03:40:56 am
Took this screen a 4 years before forming Italy, gotta say, once you have the Italian area with five universities prebuilt you're fucking unstoppable. Is hard as hell getting there though, all the shit you gotta deal with from HRE trying to free your provinces, no one wanting to ally you, various wars with Austria and Milan, having to constantly be at war in order to not have some HRE bastard trying to make you give up your provinces making conquest next to impossible, and best of all, infamy, the infamy you gain from HRE land is insane.

Now 50 years have passed, I earn 450 gold a year, got 0 inflation, am topping all research, got a shitload of vassals, got amazing amounts of gold by going to war with most African or Balkan nations and the Ottoman Empire (through peace settlements, selling land I didn't really want but still took, and vassalizing some of them). I also just got out of a war with basically all of HRE, felt good destroying underdeveloped HRE armies, sorta fucked how my 3 Muricans can annihilate 20 Croatian regiments though.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: [ptx] on March 01, 2013, 08:15:29 am
Forgot the actual screenshot.

I'm missing something about the actual war making or it is actually extremely dumb in this game, starting to become extremely frustrating.
Actually makes me want to play Victoria II again, instead, which, imo, is a far superior game in this genre.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zanze on March 01, 2013, 02:12:48 pm
Forgot the actual screenshot.

I'm missing something about the actual war making or it is actually extremely dumb in this game, starting to become extremely frustrating.
Actually makes me want to play Victoria II again, instead, which, imo, is a far superior game in this genre.

War in EU3 is decided by a few factors, once you break it down it becomes easy.
Terrain. (Never fight in mountains if you can, or across rivers)
Supply Limit. (Never fight in deserts with big stacks of troops if you can.)
Generals. (Always have one, they transfer instantly between armies.)
Discipline(How much damage your troops do. The difference between 90% and 120% is doing 1-10 damage per tick, and 1000-2000 per tick.
Morale(How long your troops stay in battle. Essential early game, not as much late game.)
Technology. (You aren't Shaka Zulu, African spearman die HORRIBLY when fighting muskets.)

Past actual combat, your goals are...
Increase enemy war exhaustion. (The fastest way is having their giant army in a low supply limit province.)
Take over their land for more war exhaustion.
Kill their armies.
In that order...

So to win a war, use the above mechanics against your enemy as much as you can. Fight in your mountains or hills, do your best to have comparable tech, don't skimp on discipline. Take Military Drill early on if you can, amazing first tech. Do whatever it takes to get the enemy war exhaustion up before they do it to you. Lure them into desert provinces if you have and scorch the land. Let them stay and starve, then strike. Even on the offensive, the AI will attack you. So always play defense. Don't feel bad about scorching land, you won't ever make the long term if your short term gets annexed.

(My above Transcaucasia game started as Georgia. The only reason I survived was scorching EVERY SINGLE PROVINCE I owned in order to starve out the neighboring hordes.)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Teeth on March 01, 2013, 11:55:16 pm
I decided to continue my HRE game a little, had some fun but this is as far as I am going to get. Waiting for infamy to go down is getting tedious.

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on March 02, 2013, 12:31:31 pm
Denmark pushing Sweden to get away from you.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Teeth on March 02, 2013, 01:55:44 pm
Denmark pushing Sweden to get away from you.
I am still confused about what happened there, because I left Denmark with 4 provinces and Norway had like 1, while Sweden held the rest of Scandinavia. Somehow they beat Sweden together and took quite some territory.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on March 02, 2013, 01:57:33 pm
That map.

"Byzantine Mamluks" makes me lol.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on March 02, 2013, 09:28:54 pm
Whats most impressive about the whole map is the fact the Golden Horde have not blown up yet in Vanilla.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Abay on March 02, 2013, 09:30:09 pm
Whats most impressive about the whole map is the fact the Golden Horde have not blown up yet in Vanilla.
And great britain doesnt exist yet  :o
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 03, 2013, 12:50:30 am
Gotten to the point in my Tuscany playthrough were I can (and have) defeated every other major power in war completely at least once, quite easily too... finally figured out a solution to games always becoming boring after you can kill anything though, from now on I'm gonna change to a max two province nation every 100 years and see how far I can take it before switching.
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on March 03, 2013, 03:25:31 am
Gotten to the point in my Tuscany playthrough were I can (and have) defeated every other major power in war completely at least once, quite easily too... finally figured out a solution to games always becoming boring after you can kill anything though, from now on I'm gonna change to a max two province nation every 100 years and see how far I can take it before switching.
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#occupysweden
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 03, 2013, 03:46:50 am
#occupysweden
Sweden was actually a major superpower just a bit earlier, I've got no fucking idea how they suddenly blew up. (blame Finland)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on March 03, 2013, 07:12:17 am
HOW DARE YOU?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on March 03, 2013, 07:13:46 am
I am still confused about what happened there, because I left Denmark with 4 provinces and Norway had like 1, while Sweden held the rest of Scandinavia. Somehow they beat Sweden together and took quite some territory.

It's some kind of glitch in the game. That's why
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lizard_man on March 06, 2013, 08:44:20 pm
Takes a year to siege a castle with 20,000 troops, enemy lays siege to your castle, and wins within a month with 1,000 troops. This game is really frustrating sometimes...
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on March 06, 2013, 10:49:06 pm
Takes a year to siege a castle with 20,000 troops, enemy lays siege to your castle, and wins within a month with 1,000 troops. This game is really frustrating sometimes...

After playing DW a while, I begin to prefer pushing the slider towards defense rather than offense. I almost always bait the AI stacks to attack me in high def bonus provinces rather than attacking them myself or to just wander around in my territory trying to take land, which takes years when you have high fort defense. Also if you have 20k troops, just storm the castle, except if there's danger in a neighboring province or if the castle is like level 4.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lizard_man on March 06, 2013, 11:47:57 pm
I begin to prefer pushing the slider towards defense rather than offense.

I might give this a try actually, since I tend to be on the defence constantly when playing with England...

Also if you have 20k troops, just storm the castle.

I tend to wait for the walls to fall before I try and storm the castle, and even then, morale drops so fast that you usually end up waiting anyway. I've played this game on and off for years and I still haven't quite grasped it yet. I was doing really well on my last play through though, but as always, the game just turns round and gives me the middle finger.

I was about to form Great Britain, waiting on my stability to go from 2 to 3, then the middle finger came. My entire country decides to rebel against my current government. Suddenly, all the major countries in the vicinity declare war, even countries I haven't even heard of, who have no chance of even reaching the continent of Europe. All this with an infamy rating of less then 20, good legitimacy, and high prestige. What I really need help with, is the government system and rebellions. In all of my provinces, I had a high national revolt risk, yet all of the rebels were heretics. What am I meant to do in such a situation?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on March 07, 2013, 12:03:27 am
Usually, massive revolts come from events. Just kill the rebels until they calm down. Check your war weariness (use war taxes carefully !).

What year is it ? Did you improve your unit types, keep your army at max size and max funding ?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lizard_man on March 07, 2013, 12:24:45 am
I'm not sure of the actual year, was late 1400's I think (I've started a new game.) As for war taxes, I will only use it if I am low on money, and my income is minus, which up until this point, was the first time I had used it. Unit types were upgraded, only the once though. As for army size, I'm unsure, I think I was struggling for men at this point. Chance of revolt was at 20% at its highest, and this was in core provinces...
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on March 07, 2013, 12:26:56 am
Were you in a prolonged war, especially losing troops to attrition?

Sounds like high War Exhaustion/Some event like Peasant's War/Time of Troubles (which is a bugged POS) as Kafein said.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lizard_man on March 07, 2013, 12:43:38 am
Constantly at war, it never stops, and it's possible I was losing troops to attrition. Ok, I shall see how this next playthrough goes, and I will try and keep an eye out for event pop ups. Thanks for the help guys... ;)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 07, 2013, 12:47:57 am
Lizard, maybe your infamy was above the limit, I personally didn't notice anything about infamy when I started trying the game and suddenly had half the world against me and insane rebellions.
Can't believe no one else thought of infamy as an obvious reason.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lizard_man on March 07, 2013, 01:04:17 am
All this with an infamy rating of less then 20.

I thought this would have been around average, what exactly is high? It's not even in the red, or only just...
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 07, 2013, 01:19:00 am
I thought this would have been around average, what exactly is high? It's not even in the red, or only just...
Well, 20 isn't allout high, but depending on your ruler and your choices 20 could be bellow the infamy limit, the standard limit is 25, ruler skills and certain choices increase and decrease it, but it's pretty close to above the bar regardlessly, and therefore it most likely caused all nations to quickly hate you though (were you excommunicated?), lowered your papal influence, and while that doesn't explain your national problems (suddenly getting a shitload of revolts and extreme revolt risk is only really linked to the infamy as far as I've experienced it (which I still think could easily be it depending on which national decisions you picked and the stats of your leader) or enemy spies).

Also I'd advice trying your best to always staying under 15 infamy, anything above 20 is risky and anything above 10 makes people hate you really fast.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lizard_man on March 07, 2013, 02:01:55 am
I have never once been excommunicated in this game, and I always try to stay on good terms with the Papal States, although at this point, I think they may have backstabbed me. I'll try and keep my infamy under control, although in this new game, it's already at 20 and I'm only 20 years into the game. But I have managed to annex Ireland and Scotland, and vassalize Brittany in this short time. Thanks for the help Zlisch (See, I'm a friendly guy now I've quit Crpg) and everyone else...
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on March 07, 2013, 07:18:54 am
Can't believe no one else thought of infamy as an obvious reason.

I had this once, sudden legitimacy drop, and I used to play around to exactly not hit the infamy limit on my first hungary game.

Could be part of the reason, you should really look out for your infamy limit because it changes constantly.

Thing is, I ignored it because he said "It's at 20" thought that's fine and didn't think much about it. If it's ok, why think about it?  :mrgreen:

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Some nice infamy reduction methods I used;

-Get Artist advisor, spam cultural decision "Comission Painting".
 This will get your cultural tradition up, this works just like in the army and the navy, higher the percentage, better the advisor.
 Get it up to 100%, then recruit a.. diplomat I think. Enjoy the -0.30 infamy advisor.

-Casus bellis. Obviously if you take territory without a claim you take a ton of infamy.
  This can be ignored in the mid-late game if you have the technology, but for the early game.
  If you want early territory, abuse the crap out of the Holy War/Religious Liberation CB.

These will go away I think at 1600 or something, so if you want to gain land easily, use this to your advantage.
Meanwhile, build up your government technology like crazy with land, if you are warmongering. Why?

Absolute Monarchy.
It's badass, if you gain Absolute Monarchy you gain "Imperialism" Casus Belli, you can point on ANYONE on the map with a war threat, and get a 50% infamy reduction, meaning 2 infamy/province. This comes in only at Gov. lvl 27 according to the Wiki, in Death&Taxes it was 33 if I'm correct.

A more viable thing is building an Embassy. These need to be reconstructed often for whatever reason, related to cores or something. But give good -infamy. Also Cabinet is another -1.00 as a National Idea.

Oh, and if you're catholic and worry about excommunication.. The Pope in this game is a total joke, just blind him by sending gifts, he'll let you do whatever you want. The pope in M2TW is much, much more annoying as a christian realm.

Oh, wait. You know this stuff maybe? If yes, that was a waste of characters haha.

Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on March 07, 2013, 07:35:21 am
Well, 20 isn't allout high, but depending on your ruler and your choices 20 could be bellow the infamy limit, the standard limit is 25, ruler skills and certain choices increase and decrease it, but it's pretty close to above the bar regardlessly, and therefore it most likely caused all nations to quickly hate you though (were you excommunicated?), lowered your papal influence, and while that doesn't explain your national problems (suddenly getting a shitload of revolts and extreme revolt risk is only really linked to the infamy as far as I've experienced it (which I still think could easily be it depending on which national decisions you picked and the stats of your leader) or enemy spies).

Also I'd advice trying your best to always staying under 15 infamy, anything above 20 is risky and anything above 10 makes people hate you really fast.

I sit at 20-30 regularly, who needs allies?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Abay on March 07, 2013, 08:03:02 am
I play it in very hard mod and my allies help me very much if choose ottomans  :)
infamy is bad
edit: my up level is 12 for infamy(3-5 in general)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on March 07, 2013, 09:51:44 am
I had this once, sudden legitimacy drop, and I used to play around to exactly not hit the infamy limit on my first hungary game.

Could be part of the reason, you should really look out for your infamy limit because it changes constantly.

Thing is, I ignored it because he said "It's at 20" thought that's fine and didn't think much about it. If it's ok, why think about it?  :mrgreen:

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Some nice infamy reduction methods I used;

-Get Artist advisor, spam cultural decision "Comission Painting".
 This will get your cultural tradition up, this works just like in the army and the navy, higher the percentage, better the advisor.
 Get it up to 100%, then recruit a.. diplomat I think. Enjoy the -0.30 infamy advisor.

-Casus bellis. Obviously if you take territory without a claim you take a ton of infamy.
  This can be ignored in the mid-late game if you have the technology, but for the early game.
  If you want early territory, abuse the crap out of the Holy War/Religious Liberation CB.

These will go away I think at 1600 or something, so if you want to gain land easily, use this to your advantage.
Meanwhile, build up your government technology like crazy with land, if you are warmongering. Why?

Absolute Monarchy.
It's badass, if you gain Absolute Monarchy you gain "Imperialism" Casus Belli, you can point on ANYONE on the map with a war threat, and get a 50% infamy reduction, meaning 2 infamy/province. This comes in only at Gov. lvl 27 according to the Wiki, in Death&Taxes it was 33 if I'm correct.

A more viable thing is building an Embassy. These need to be reconstructed often for whatever reason, related to cores or something. But give good -infamy. Also Cabinet is another -1.00 as a National Idea.

Oh, and if you're catholic and worry about excommunication.. The Pope in this game is a total joke, just blind him by sending gifts, he'll let you do whatever you want. The pope in M2TW is much, much more annoying as a christian realm.

Oh, wait. You know this stuff maybe? If yes, that was a waste of characters haha.

The absolute killer technique for keeping your infamy low as a catholic nation is too get as many cardinals as possible.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Teeth on March 07, 2013, 10:37:29 am
Fuck infamy, if you ain't above the limit everything is fine. Allies and good relations are useless, if you want allies go and vassalize some nations. Only thing is that if you are close to your limit and your ruler dies or something else happens you might suddenly be above it. Being above it is bad, very bad. People declaring war on you is not that bad, but god those rebellions, 26k lolwut.

In my experience besieging level 1 and 2 forts with 20k troops is just a simple press of the assault button, even without breaching walls. Perhaps you have retarded technology or shitty morale.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on March 07, 2013, 11:04:15 am
Fuck infamy, if you ain't above the limit everything is fine. Allies and good relations are useless, if you want allies go and vassalize some nations. Only thing is that if you are close to your limit and your ruler dies or something else happens you might suddenly be above it. Being above it is bad, very bad. People declaring war on you is not that bad, but god those rebellions, 26k lolwut.

In my experience besieging level 1 and 2 forts with 20k troops is just a simple press of the assault button, even without breaching walls. Perhaps you have retarded technology or shitty morale.

Except if you want an additional 150 gold income per month, in which case it is best to keep your infamy as close to 0 as possible. Merchants are awesome.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on March 07, 2013, 02:28:18 pm
The absolute killer technique for keeping your infamy low as a catholic nation is too get as many cardinals as possible.

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 07, 2013, 03:27:16 pm
I sit at 20-30 regularly, who needs allies?
Well, allies ain't that important, but when you're playing some tiny weak nation like for example Tuscany it's not exactly ideal to have Milan, Austria, and Napals all have insanely low relations with you, and you'll have a lot of nations looking to hit you at any time. Nearly got completely fucked in my Tuscany game while trying to take over Milan and beat Austria out of Italy when Venice, Napals, and Switzerland all declare war on me when most of my remaining troops are halfdead deep inside Austria.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Overdriven on March 07, 2013, 03:45:19 pm
I was about to form Great Britain, waiting on my stability to go from 2 to 3, then the middle finger came. My entire country decides to rebel against my current government. Suddenly, all the major countries in the vicinity declare war, even countries I haven't even heard of, who have no chance of even reaching the continent of Europe. All this with an infamy rating of less then 20, good legitimacy, and high prestige. What I really need help with, is the government system and rebellions. In all of my provinces, I had a high national revolt risk, yet all of the rebels were heretics. What am I meant to do in such a situation?

Hmm as England (well UK) I had that infamy of around 30. I guess my limit was high lol.

Sounds like your problem may have been war weariness. For everyone to rebel and to have such a high chance of rebelling it seems likely. As for everyone attacking you, I found with the UK that happened a lot because of chain alliance. The Irish kingdoms have a nasty habit of picking very good allies. Allies who are usually allied with A LOT of other people. For instance when I took one of the Irish kingdoms their ally was Brittany who were allied with Sweden, The Hansa ect ect which meant I had around 10 nations at war with me all at once. I learnt as England that you do have to be careful. Abandon/sell off your continental provinces, unless you really really want to focus on that, and focus simply on the UK. Don't attack Scotland unless you can lure them into a war of some sort but I'd definitely recommend against initiating it. Usually when one of the continental powers decide to attack you Scotland will join in. I then made sure to make peace with the continental power ASAP leaving me to focus on raping Scotland from a defensive standpoint. If you initiate it you will definitely get a lot of continental powers on your arse. Only attack one Irish kingdom at a time and be prepared to have a chain alliance invading your shores. I generally kept an army in England and an army in Ireland. I also slowly worked on my navy until my UK defence fleet had about 40 caravels. Once I reached that level I was never invaded again. After my colonial expansion I had about 200 ships  :D O and early game with England I hardly had any money because of the constant wars and having to maintain a very large anti-invasion army.

I focused on offence because I always tried to make sure my armies were larger than the enemies, generally meaning they wouldn't attack me so offensive made sense for me. I also went with quality and it seemed to work.

Regardless, early UK is pretty intense because of the constant invasion/Scotland issue. I had to reload saves several times because I played it wrong and ended up having my armies wiped out by invasion forces. Once you build that navy though you are set because as soon as you go to war you can set the fleet to patrol from Ireland to Eastern England, stopping any invasion force.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Teeth on March 07, 2013, 05:37:53 pm
Except if you want an additional 150 gold income per month, in which case it is best to keep your infamy as close to 0 as possible. Merchants are awesome.
Does not outweigh the enormous stable income you get from those 20 provinces you conquered, which got you the infamy in the first place. These provinces get you loads of other advantages as well, whereas being a merchant country just gives you money, while forcing you to expand at a snail pace as well. What is the point of all that income if you cannot use it subdue the world?

Besides, just conquer yourself a few CoT's and that infamy will not obstruct your trading at all.

Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zanze on March 07, 2013, 09:07:53 pm
Not a snails pace. As a republic you just need to pick Diplomat rulers. With 8-9 Diplomacy rulers you get cores faster than you can declare war on people. Also, those 20 provinces wont give you anything but revolts until you core them out. Merchants definitely are better than having high infamy. More gold is never bad. Ever.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on March 08, 2013, 01:41:12 am
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Unless you are the papal state :D securing the papal controller title as another country is tedious though.

Does not outweigh the enormous stable income you get from those 20 provinces you conquered, which got you the infamy in the first place. These provinces get you loads of other advantages as well, whereas being a merchant country just gives you money, while forcing you to expand at a snail pace as well. What is the point of all that income if you cannot use it subdue the world?

Besides, just conquer yourself a few CoT's and that infamy will not obstruct your trading at all.

Even owning CoT's doesn't guarantee a monopoly (besides, mercantilism is not a good choice even if you never invest in any CoT abroad), and I am not exaggerating when I say 150 gold per month. In my Papal State game trade is almost one quarter of my income. 20 uncored provinces won't even give you 30. And anyway, if you always keep a 5/6 diplomat and take the cabinet value whenever you can, keeping low infamy becomes very easy. Also, don't forget being smaller gives you better research and allows higher centralization.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lizard_man on March 08, 2013, 02:54:01 pm
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You're probably right, war weariness would have been a big part of my problem, and the chain alliances are a pain, and it never stops...

That's pretty much how I've gone about it on my new play through. I managed to annex Scotland and Ireland very early on, and for the moment, infamy and the chance of revolt are dropping to a decent level. I also have a large fleet for defence, and I'm pretty much just haressing my enemies with small armies when I get the chance. But for the most part, playing very defencive for the moment. I think it's going pretty well. Managed to form an empire, got some trustworthy allies that always seem to back me, and I've vassalized Brittany.

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Gonna try and focus on trade now, try and get my compete chance up. I'll post an update soon, as it's still pretty early game...
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: [ptx] on March 08, 2013, 03:08:46 pm
Well, at least you still have France as a power, rather than Burgundy.

Beating France in an early war usually results in Burgundy subsequently taking over the area. And man, is Burgundy a bitch :/
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 08, 2013, 03:26:00 pm
Well, at least you still have France as a power, rather than Burgundy.

Beating France in an early war usually results in Burgundy subsequently taking over the area. And man, is Burgundy a bitch :/
That's why you gotta beat Burgundy and release Flanders before beating France.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Teeth on March 09, 2013, 12:47:47 pm
Not a snails pace. As a republic you just need to pick Diplomat rulers. With 8-9 Diplomacy rulers you get cores faster than you can declare war on people. Also, those 20 provinces wont give you anything but revolts until you core them out. Merchants definitely are better than having high infamy. More gold is never bad. Ever.
A republic? I have barely ever gotten to the point in the game where I can even become a republic because my high infamy expansion has already made me too much of a powerhouse that I get bored. Yes taking those provinces is long term gain, but once you get cores and get your production buildings going, that will get you a lot of money and manpower and basically everything without having to waste any ideas on trading. Does a high diplomacy ruler get you cores?

Even owning CoT's doesn't guarantee a monopoly (besides, mercantilism is not a good choice even if you never invest in any CoT abroad)
In my experience it does, which is why mercantilism is a decent choice. How exactly would free trade be better if you only trade in your own Cot? No wonder that does not get you monopolies, the compete chance gets rather low.

I am not exaggerating when I say 150 gold per month. In my Papal State game trade is almost one quarter of my income.
150 gold a month and 600 total is not that impressive when talking about a game that is in 1636, I rarely ever played until that time, but I am willing to bet I can get a shitload more income comparatively with the Papal State by doing balls to the walls expanding. The cabinet idea is Gov 30, so that does take a while, until then it is like -0.70 infamy a year, if you get lucky with a good ruler, which is not a whole lot. Not all of us are catholics with lots of cardinals.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on March 09, 2013, 01:00:43 pm
How much infamy do Cardinals burn?

I don't think I'll have a chance to see it in this Hungary game now, I let everyone practice whatever they wanted. Also went full innovative.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on March 09, 2013, 01:59:13 pm
In my experience it does, which is why mercantilism is a decent choice. How exactly would free trade be better if you only trade in your own Cot? No wonder that does not get you monopolies, the compete chance gets rather low.

Well, that is true only if you have high enough infamy to need the higher compete chance of mercantilism. Otherwise, the trade income bonus of free trade is better.

150 gold a month and 600 total is not that impressive when talking about a game that is in 1636, I rarely ever played until that time, but I am willing to bet I can get a shitload more income comparatively with the Papal State by doing balls to the walls expanding. The cabinet idea is Gov 30, so that does take a while, until then it is like -0.70 infamy a year, if you get lucky with a good ruler, which is not a whole lot. Not all of us are catholics with lots of cardinals.

The speed difference between expanding while keeping your infamy under 20 and that of expanding while keeping your infamy under 10 or so is negligible, as infamy doesn't go down faster when you have lots of it. If anything, keeping it lower allows you to get more provinces out of random opportunistic wars you didn't prepare for.

How much infamy do Cardinals burn?

I don't think I'll have a chance to see it in this Hungary game now, I let everyone practice whatever they wanted. Also went full innovative.

Each cardinal gives -0.1 infamy iirc. There are about 15 cardinals total so when you start owning a significant part of the catholic provinces + max relations with the papal state + papal influence values/slider settings, you can easily get -1 infamy per year only with cardinals. And this is why the "Kingdom of God" decision as Papal State is the worst ever, because it destroys papacy and you lose all cardinal and papal controller bonuses.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lizard_man on March 11, 2013, 10:30:39 pm
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So, this is where I'm at with my current game. Pirates are a fucking pain though, I take them out, and by the time I've completed a circle, they're back... :|
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 11, 2013, 10:35:59 pm
lol, dat Ottoman Empire.

Also, I'm proud to announce that as always Castille has gotten wiped out in my current game, me (granada), and Moroco share the vast majority of spain and portugal.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zanze on March 12, 2013, 02:19:23 am
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So, this is where I'm at with my current game. Pirates are a fucking pain though, I take them out, and by the time I've completed a circle, they're back... :|

Put your outdated Carracks in stacks of 2 and put them on patrol. It owns pirates in peace, and frees up force limits in war.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lizard_man on March 12, 2013, 03:27:41 am
Put your outdated Carracks in stacks of 2 and put them on patrol. It owns pirates in peace, and frees up force limits in war.

Thanks for the help, but I already looked into it and have stopped the pirates from spawning. Docked a ship here and there, sorted my problem... :P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Abay on March 14, 2013, 09:27:33 am
strange, I try to get screen shots of the map with pritn screen button and it takes my desktop's  :?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on March 14, 2013, 10:51:20 am
strange, I try to get screen shots of the map with pritn screen button and it takes my desktop's  :?

Isn't it insert + f11 or something equally peculiar ?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lizard_man on March 14, 2013, 03:23:01 pm
F11 for screenshot, F12 for world map, shift + F12 for a world map that highlights only you and your vassals... :wink:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Abay on March 14, 2013, 03:55:27 pm
teşekkürler, my eu3 friends  :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on March 29, 2013, 09:27:42 am
So me and idzo starter coop campaign :) Try to guess which countries we play.


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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Abay on March 29, 2013, 10:34:22 am
croita and austria ofc   :P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: [ptx] on March 29, 2013, 12:56:04 pm
Ottomans and Georgia.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on March 29, 2013, 04:42:08 pm
I've never seen Croatia grow that big without help.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on March 29, 2013, 06:06:22 pm
Croatia and Lithuania.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Abay on March 29, 2013, 06:50:46 pm
Here is my SS from my last EU3 game with Ottomans

After some several years which spent for bringing anatolia together:
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After a war against Mamlukes and fall of Constantinople:
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After a war against Castille and resquing Tunis and Cyprus from Christians:
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After 2nd war against Mamlukes:
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After 3rd war against Mamlukes:
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After 4th war against Mamlukes:
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After 5th war against Mamlukes:
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Rhodes from England and getting Ragusa,Zeta and Dalmatia:
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Having 95% of Greek lands from Venice:
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Having a land in Italy and Naxos:
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My general claim after several years:
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G.Britain declares a war:
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G.Britain offers a peace:
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After that peace; Navarra, Morocco, Najd, Hedjaz, Ethiopia, Yemen, Mamlukes, Transilvania, Serbia, Bosnia, Ak Koyunlu and Jalayirids are my vassals:
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Eastern and North attacks:
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Stade and Ösel is mine:
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After some eastern movements:
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Claims:
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Revolt Risk:
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Now:
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Now2:
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My general claims:
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My general claims2:
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To be continued...
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on March 29, 2013, 07:41:37 pm
Oh neat, look at Great Britain.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on March 29, 2013, 07:43:12 pm
Hmm, what to conquer next...  8-)

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Abay on March 29, 2013, 07:56:15 pm
nice chrsito  :) but not sure death and taxes is dat hard. I must add that my game is on very hard mod in any kind of selections. I generally dont play game on normal or hard mods. very hard alwayz  8-)

Edit: Probably I go for Britain for getting the island except London next  :wink:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on March 29, 2013, 07:58:48 pm
Well it was my first real campaign, it's only on medium.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Abay on March 29, 2013, 08:01:10 pm
Well it was my first real campaign, it's only on medium.
being succesful with hungary is really hard in divine wind. austria, ottomans, poland and lethunia are hard to deal. good job anyway  :)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 30, 2013, 05:10:17 am
Due to having to reinstall I lost my Great Khan game.  :cry: I'd captured all of landbased Asia (minus a few Chinese provinces that were under siege and Novgorod who I never bothered dealing with), and had drilled into Europe all the way up into Bohemia.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on March 30, 2013, 04:43:44 pm
Due to having to reinstall I lost my Great Khan game.  :cry: I'd captured all of landbased Asia (minus a few Chinese provinces that were under siege and Novgorod who I never bothered dealing with), and had drilled into Europe all the way up into Bohemia.

That may be the most historically accurate EU3 AAR I ever read.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on April 10, 2013, 03:47:00 am
EU3 Chronicles (with expansions) for free on Gamefly!

http://www.gamefly.com/Download-Europa-Universalis-III-Chronicles/5000728/

You have to enter a form of payment but it is literally free, not sure for how long!

Edit - UK link - http://www.gamefly.co.uk/Download-Europa-Universalis-III-Chronicles/5002834/
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Abay on April 22, 2013, 03:40:07 am
Here is the situation after a peace between Great Britain and Ottoman Empire
See it well, I created England and they are my ally now  :D  But I am surprised when I see Great Britain and England at same time on the map. Ahh, Kent town is also mine  :lol:
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Reppu on April 27, 2013, 12:21:52 pm
"You're only moments away from seizing your destiny as the head of a world-spanning empire in the Europa Universalis IV community. The first step in establishing your reign is gathering recruits for the EUIV Call to Arms Campaign..."

http://signup.europauniversalis4.com/r/c100a4bbfa0
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on April 27, 2013, 03:47:06 pm
Damn, can't you people just like, make the amount of emails it'll take for the prize you want, and then spam yourself messages? Is that really so hard?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on April 27, 2013, 06:15:06 pm
Damn, can't you people just like, make the amount of emails it'll take for the prize you want, and then spam yourself messages? Is that really so hard?

Haven't tried it yet but if anyone interested...http://10minutemail.com/10MinuteMail/index.html
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on April 28, 2013, 03:52:33 am
Haven't tried it yet but if anyone interested...http://10minutemail.com/10MinuteMail/index.html
It works
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on April 28, 2013, 05:45:03 pm
It works

I got up to 5 for both the DLC's (the only thing I care about). Also to note - so you don't gotta wait 10 minutes after each time use a proxy to bypass that.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on April 28, 2013, 05:55:43 pm
I got up to 5 for both the DLC's (the only thing I care about). Also to note - so you don't gotta wait 10 minutes after each time use a proxy to bypass that.
Planning on doing so as well, the rewards for 10 aren't that great and the only decent things for 100 (which would take far to long anyhow) probably got won by nolifers the second the thing was posted.
But this is a nice productive way to do this without being a dick to everyone you know spamming links everywhere.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on April 28, 2013, 07:38:07 pm
Might as well not bother yourself and use airmail, you can request a new address anytime
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 04, 2013, 04:48:17 am
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My game as...the Byzantine Empire.

Have problems with 2 things:
First how to westernize...(figured it out now, but having a ruler with...5-6 admin SUCKS). All my rulers are either Warlords or Diplomats. only a REGENCY COUNCIL had enough for me to Westernize.
 I'm only HALF Westernized. All tech is Western, but units are still Eastern(Or Oriental in game). Keeps getting my ass OWNED by little Austria in wars over italy.
Secondly, HOW do you take over provinces from Steppe/nomad nations?

And for those who are wondering about Religion?
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Other Fun Pictures:
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The way my kings always are:
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Miley on May 04, 2013, 05:32:22 am
The downside is that it's set for 2013 (obviously) but at least I know it's in the making.

IT'S 2013 NOW WHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Overdriven on May 04, 2013, 06:06:24 am
Tried playing with several different Indian factions. Unless I play as one of the bigger ones I get fucked within 20 years.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on May 04, 2013, 12:21:17 pm

Secondly, HOW do you take over provinces from Steppe/nomad nations?



you got to controll region you want to take over and you have option to send colonoists there, basicly it is same thing as colosnising new lands. Once you have 1k population in occupied teritory it will become yours, just make sure you dont accept peace with them befor taking over isnt completed.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on May 04, 2013, 10:51:51 pm
Tried playing with several different Indian factions. Unless I play as one of the bigger ones I get fucked within 20 years.

At least it's easier than if you try that in Vic :lol:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 05, 2013, 06:29:10 am
Tried playing with several different Indian factions. Unless I play as one of the bigger ones I get fucked within 20 years.
India as Delhi or Deccan is quite fun, as Delhi you only need one more core to form Hindustan, so if you get a mission for that it won't be that interesting, but otherwise there will be a lot of issues with the rest of India allying against you, and Deccan got the constant pain in the ass that is Viyajanagar.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Overdriven on May 05, 2013, 04:11:12 pm
Yeah Viyajanagar is the major pain. Pretty much no matter what I do as one of the smaller factions I'll inevitably get taken over by them and attacked by their inevitable chain of allies. The problem with Delhi is they have a lot of rivals on all sides though I have yet to give them a go.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on May 05, 2013, 08:27:36 pm
I've played Viyajanagar and they're pretty fun.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 05, 2013, 09:08:18 pm
Yeah Viyajanagar is the major pain. Pretty much no matter what I do as one of the smaller factions I'll inevitably get taken over by them and attacked by their inevitable chain of allies. The problem with Delhi is they have a lot of rivals on all sides though I have yet to give them a go.
I took over entire India as Delhi, your only chance is to ally Deccan and support them in their wars, not to little, 'cause then Viyajanagar becomes a superpower and you're doomed, not to much, 'cause then Deccan becomes a superpower and annexes Gujisomething, gotta pay tribute to Timurids, annex Bihar instantly, never allow Chagatai to take actual Delhi, and kick Rajputana whenever they're down. At least that was my tactic, I still only barely kept Deccan alive and if I hadn't gotten the last core and formed Hindustan I'd have been fucked.

BTW: Wanna do a multiplayer game in India some time? People mostly prefer Europe and the Middle East.   :(
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zanze on May 06, 2013, 07:55:51 pm
What. Vj's hard? Since when? They are completely OP when compared to almost anyone else in India. That manpower/force limits...
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on May 06, 2013, 08:38:47 pm
What. Vj's hard? Since when? They are completely OP when compared to almost anyone else in India. That manpower/force limits...

Hence why playing against them is like fighting the blue blob, except it's in India.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lamk on June 03, 2013, 02:27:53 am
I have been watching videos of EU4 recently and the game looks so amazing. It is going to be awesome. I can't wait until it is released.
Here is some interesting previews from a guy who was invited to Stockholm by the devs to attend  a promotional event and he had the occasion to play the game for a few hours.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvheg4Bg4wY&list=SPs3acGYgI1-tHGlPhfp32gDYzyG2aMD8m (There are 9 vids in total)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on June 06, 2013, 03:34:49 pm
http://store.steampowered.com/app/236850/?snr=1_7_15__13

Already pre-ordered.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 07, 2013, 02:18:41 am
wonder how they going to do the sign up bonus's everyone gets? I got the full 10(no need for 50 or whatever it was).
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on June 07, 2013, 02:55:26 pm
http://store.steampowered.com/app/236850/?snr=1_7_15__13

Already pre-ordered.

!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on July 17, 2013, 10:14:10 pm
Gonna ressurect the thread with our MP game. We're playing the MEIOU mod.

bagge = Mother Russia
Zlisch = Chubanid (curreny getting fucked by Russia, all provinces but 1 conquered)
Butan = Korea (Played as Sibir before getting wiped)
Shema = Austria (joined mid-way, as Austria AI was retarded and didnt expanded at all)

Check Butans lovely expension as Sibir
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Warning: huge pictures :P

Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Teeth on July 17, 2013, 10:16:31 pm
bagge y u play easy mode?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on July 17, 2013, 10:24:19 pm
Felt like playing Russia since I havn't done so for a long long time :P

Anyway, Shema is emperor now. Endless manpower and 321 limit. GF
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 18, 2013, 06:44:28 am
Chubanids started with 4 cored provs out of 20 or so, wrong religion in half the provs, wrong culture in all the provs, and a modifier that gives 10+ revolt risk everywhere.
Still lasted like 150 years were as the the real Chubanids died 1 year after game start <3
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on July 18, 2013, 04:20:49 pm
Yeah you did awesome as Chubanids... but since you didn't draw me that picture I had to invade you :P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 18, 2013, 04:42:01 pm
Yeah you did awesome as Chubanids... but since you didn't draw me that picture I had to invade you :P
You didn't invade me, I attacked you for annexing poor innocent Crimea. :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Arn_Magnusson on July 18, 2013, 05:12:46 pm
My latest big success, was creating Germany (from Frisia in straight line to St. Wallis or some northern italian province, then in pretty straight line to southern Hungary an up, up till the Danzig) from single-provinced Frankfurt, which has great trade preferences (the polities are very favorable like in Netherlands) and I've been bashing through the skulls of all enemies of my bigger protector, sometimes some well justified war against other german duchy and I eneded up with 560k soldiers in ~1750 year, and the biggest earnings the 1st statistic card says it 11k, but on the end of the year I gain about 3k, and monthly I'm balancing (depending on my merchants skills) from +5-10 monthly to -90. Game became really boring now because it's just killin' all of those left and bringing the light of Lutheran faith. I just hope that the new trade system (with routes 'n' stuff) will be much more interesting and flexible than current one in EU III with all DLC's.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 18, 2013, 05:25:10 pm
Speaking of EU IV, 2 weeks till release(august 3).

Are you ready? :twisted:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on July 19, 2013, 09:44:44 am
Release Date: 13 Aug 2013 :(
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Arn_Magnusson on July 19, 2013, 12:47:37 pm
Yes, I'll receive my pre-order on 13 Aug 2013 too, but mabye the date depends on the development in each country, but I guess not.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on July 19, 2013, 01:53:55 pm
Well fuck, it's swedish developers so US and A shouldn't get the game before us :P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Arn_Magnusson on July 19, 2013, 03:24:19 pm
Ofcourse they shouldn't, but y'know:

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 19, 2013, 04:29:07 pm
Naw ya'll was right. I forgot the 1, it's the 13th. September 3 is Rome 2. Must have mixed them up.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on July 19, 2013, 04:43:12 pm
i like eu3 so much but eu4 is 35 euros :( i dont think i want to spend that much
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 19, 2013, 05:08:45 pm
i like eu3 so much but eu4 is 35 euros :( i dont think i want to spend that much

cheaper than rome 2. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Leesin on July 19, 2013, 06:18:54 pm
cheaper than rome 2. :rolleyes:

Depends where you live, for me Rome 2 was just under 35 euro ( £30 ) :D. I'll probably get this once it's been out forever and goes into a Steam sale lol.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 20, 2013, 01:47:21 am
Depends where you live, for me Rome 2 was just under 35 euro ( £30 ) :D. I'll probably get this once it's been out forever and goes into a Steam sale lol.

I got rome 2 at discount for 45. EU 4 is 40.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on July 20, 2013, 01:55:35 am
For anyone who has pre-ordered the July bonus http://www.europauniversalis4.com/buy?utm_source=EU4_preorder_trailer&utm_medium=trailer&utm_campaign=EU4_preorder_trailer
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on July 20, 2013, 03:01:42 am
Cool. Byzantium is my fav country 8-)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 20, 2013, 03:20:50 am
Cool. Byzantium is my fav country 8-)

Yea but start date is 1444. Byzantium fell 1453. You going to be on your last legs at that point.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on July 20, 2013, 03:39:59 am
Np :P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on July 20, 2013, 08:42:57 am
preordered :3
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 23, 2013, 03:23:21 pm
If you did the sign up people bonus, check your emails. I just got mine for signing up 10 people.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 23, 2013, 03:52:20 pm
I liked CK2 a lot better than EU2 or 3 (even after modding both)...don't think I'll be getting EU4.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 31, 2013, 04:13:25 pm
Wow. If you Pre-order EU IV, you get CK 2 as a bonus! :shock:
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The final pre-order bonus for Europa Universalis IV has been revealed, and it’s a doozy: if you purchase Europa Universalis IV before its release, you get a free full copy of Crusader Kings II. What’s more, you also get an exclusive converter program that lets you take your beloved CKII kingdom, and import it into your EUIV game!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Arn_Magnusson on July 31, 2013, 05:14:52 pm
That's kinda sad, I wonder if i'll be able to sell it cause I have one copy already, the more important thing is that they've made a CK II save's CONVERTER to EU IV games. The other important thing is that you don't have to play the CK II game till the 1444. You can take a save from 1150 for example, but you have deal with consequences when you'll take the 876 year in EU IV :D Bring me that game!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 31, 2013, 07:26:05 pm
Yea, the save converter thingy is awesome.

I've had mine on preorder since just after the first pre-order bonus.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on July 31, 2013, 07:37:27 pm
So I heard they dropped their shit fucking network code and moved to Steam Works for multiplayer. SO FUCKING STOKED ABOOT GOD DAMN TIME.

Yah, I pre-ordered my game the day it was released on steam, I hope it's not a buggy mess like most of their games at launch but I have faith.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 31, 2013, 07:52:21 pm
So I heard they dropped their shit fucking network code and moved to Steam Works for multiplayer. SO FUCKING STOKED ABOOT GOD DAMN TIME.

Yah, I pre-ordered my game the day it was released on steam, I hope it's not a buggy mess like most of their games at launch but I have faith.

Wait, wut!?
LINK PLEASE!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on July 31, 2013, 09:12:07 pm
If they've made MP more stable i'll definitely get this as it's the most meaningful upgrade on previous games.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on July 31, 2013, 09:31:54 pm
i preordered game some time ago, how can i get CK 2?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Goldor on August 02, 2013, 11:08:50 pm
i preordered game some time ago, how can i get CK 2?

You should have it now, you had to wait until the 2nd to get your copy ;0).
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 02, 2013, 11:22:10 pm
You should have it now, you had to wait until the 2nd to get your copy ;0).
oh thanks, just noticed it in my librabry
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on August 02, 2013, 11:38:05 pm
Just pre-ordered.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Arn_Magnusson on August 03, 2013, 12:45:35 am
Does anyone pre-ordered from this site?

www.gametap-shop.com

If you do, tell me if you received you CK II copy already, Idon't really need it but if the others got it, I'm afraid if I won't get it I might also don't get something important like the converter or Phoenix DLC :c
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 03, 2013, 05:21:41 pm
So now I got 2 CK2's. Anyone got a game they wanna trade CK2 for?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on August 05, 2013, 08:39:16 am
So I already own CK2 and yet I didn't get an extra copy. Wtf :(
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on August 05, 2013, 02:13:10 pm
You can contact steam and tell them you didn't receive it. Make sure to give it some time and check your gift inventory first though.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on August 06, 2013, 12:24:02 am
Wait, wut!?
LINK PLEASE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMSCGsxTxzM&list=SPs3acGYgI1-tHGlPhfp32gDYzyG2aMD8m&index=9
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on August 06, 2013, 05:03:05 am
So now I got 2 CK2's. Anyone got a game they wanna trade CK2 for?

Monaco, if u want it.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 06, 2013, 06:17:23 pm
ew. CK2 is regularly 40 buck, and sells for 50% occasionally.

anyone know where i can find a way to advertise my trade?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on August 09, 2013, 11:30:12 am
Demo's out, if you guys can't wait.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/236850/
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Havoco on August 12, 2013, 12:38:19 am
ew. CK2 is regularly 40 buck, and sells for 50% occasionally.

anyone know where i can find a way to advertise my trade?

I think there were some ppl in hospi that wanted to get ck2. Can't remember who though.


Can't decide if should get this game or not. Seems just like ck2, but instead of dynasties there's colonization and more focus on units and techs.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on August 12, 2013, 01:21:06 am
If multiplayer is less buggy that alone will make the game worth the money.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on August 12, 2013, 05:54:46 am
If multiplayer is less buggy that alone will make the game worth the money.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Vovka on August 13, 2013, 12:42:40 pm
So I already own CK2 and yet I didn't get an extra copy. Wtf :(
pre-ordered EUIV aswell and dont get free CK2 ((( SCAM!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 13, 2013, 01:36:14 pm
14:35 here, when it will be released? midnight?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Rogue on August 13, 2013, 02:26:11 pm
pre-ordered EUIV aswell and dont get free CK2 ((( SCAM!

Check your Steam inventory, it might not got added to your library even if you did not already own it.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Largg on August 13, 2013, 03:09:23 pm
It took a few days for me to show up in my inventory after the purchase.

14:35 here, when it will be released? midnight?

According to Steam it should be available now. Just started downloading.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 13, 2013, 03:17:13 pm
It took a few days for me to show up in my inventory after the purchase.

According to Steam it should be available now. Just started downloading.
same :) i waited yesterday whole day, i kept refreshing steam, turned out it was only 12th :(
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 13, 2013, 04:14:27 pm
I did a export of a game from 960....

Good lord was it interesting. West Francia Owns half of Europe in this game and is bigger than Ming China.

Funny. Wonder what would be up if someone had the Sunset Invasion DLC. Tell me what happens would you?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on August 13, 2013, 10:53:39 pm
Sad multiplayer seems even suckier now than before, my first singleplayer game is looking sorta weird in Asia, Oirats seem to be trying to rebuild the mongol empire or something.
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 13, 2013, 11:08:44 pm
i played 6 h straight with strangers, it say game approved my hopes, i wsih they make multiplayer more stabile.  :cry:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on August 13, 2013, 11:10:32 pm
Can you guys compare it to the third game?

I got the eu3 chronicles one for free so I think I'll stick with that, but I wanna know if it's better  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 13, 2013, 11:16:34 pm
it has a lot more features, imo it is far better
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on August 13, 2013, 11:46:17 pm
Can you guys compare it to the third game?

I got the eu3 chronicles one for free so I think I'll stick with that, but I wanna know if it's better  :mrgreen:
Everyone who isn't European or Ottoman is nerfed even worse than EU3, lowest starting date (1444 I think) for some illogical reason got Christians on the same tech level as muslims, monarch point feature is very retarded at times, basic standard events of no real extraordinarity have been commercialized under a fancy "dynamic historical event" name, and trade is a bit more fun.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Vovka on August 14, 2013, 09:14:35 am
I did a export of a game from 960....

Good lord was it interesting. West Francia Owns half of Europe in this game and is bigger than Ming China.

Funny. Wonder what would be up if someone had the Sunset Invasion DLC. Tell me what happens would you?
Where should I look for converter? if i pre-ordered the game?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on August 14, 2013, 02:18:43 pm
Where should I look for converter? if i pre-ordered the game?
When you launch ck2 it should be in the dlc section, I haven't tried using it yet though, so I don't know exactly what you should do
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Vovka on August 14, 2013, 02:22:21 pm
When you launch ck2 it should be in the dlc section, I haven't tried using it yet though, so I don't know exactly what you should do
oh will try today ty :P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 14, 2013, 04:27:42 pm
come on who wants to play some multiplayer in eu4? so far i managed to get only casimir and bunch of randomers :(
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Vovka on August 14, 2013, 04:34:48 pm
i can )
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 14, 2013, 04:51:52 pm
i can )
give me your steam and lets play some game :3
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on August 14, 2013, 05:11:32 pm
I kept crashing when I was playing MP and the rest of the 7 players was fine.

Fuck this :cry:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on August 14, 2013, 06:44:58 pm
Game starting now for anyone interested.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Vovka on August 14, 2013, 07:23:08 pm
Vovka
drz bear on avatar  :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 14, 2013, 08:27:40 pm
Where should I look for converter? if i pre-ordered the game?

IN CK2: the converter will be under the options with save/load/etc.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 14, 2013, 08:57:50 pm
Vovka
drz bear on avatar  :D
you dont answer on steam
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Artyem on August 16, 2013, 11:28:07 am
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Played a singleplayer game today, thought I was doing pretty well as Crimea until I saw what Riga's accomplished.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: [ptx] on August 16, 2013, 11:38:32 am
Errr... what has it accomplished?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 16, 2013, 11:47:50 am
Errr... what has it accomplished?
dont be so harsh, it is only capital of one of of poorest european counties today.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on August 16, 2013, 11:48:41 am
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Played a singleplayer game today, thought I was doing pretty well as Crimea until I saw what Riga's accomplished.
Crimea best country <3
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Warcat on August 16, 2013, 12:52:38 pm
dont be so harsh, it is only capital of one of of poorest European counties today.

That's not really a good gauge of their accomplishment though. Timbuktu and the area of Mali was a center of trade and tremendous weath. These days it's a hell hole that is considerably worse off in just about every way from what it use to be.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Artyem on August 16, 2013, 09:12:37 pm
Errr... what has it accomplished?

Tiny little baby Riga annexed the entirety of the Livonian order, something that I'm not used to seeing in EU3.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Warcat on August 16, 2013, 09:37:30 pm
Would be neat if you could expand Crimea to the east and conqueror all of Mongolia. There should be a steam achievement for having the Mongol invasion in reverse.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 17, 2013, 12:32:17 am
peasant wars is officaly wort thing to happen. I start to think that they are bugged. Is there any way to end them? i played as france and got peasant wars around 1490 and now it is 1510. i fought against them first 10 years of war but than i just gave up because they just kept spawning but i ran out of money and manpower long befor that. One moment i counted about 195 k rebel troops. This might be a bit broken, not even mentioning constant events with stability, prestige or even legitemacy drops. Later i might aadd screenshots befor and after peasant wars.


Edit: year 23 of peasant wars, 7 new countries became independant, peasant wars go on, nothing helps, i fought back, killed them all, accepted all their demands, still nothing. No idea how to end this madness.

edit#2: about 84k rebels on my 14 provinces :( peasant wars go on and dont want to end.

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on August 17, 2013, 10:09:36 am
Trying to expand Crimea so the black sea would by my Sea of Azow and Greece be my Crimea, tried this one time in EU3 as well, but by the time I'd united Crimea from the 3 provs it started out as, Poland-Lithuania had united, annexed the Teutonic Order, and eaten half of France :cry:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on August 18, 2013, 06:14:02 pm
Latvian do you play on a potato or is the interface really that huge
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 19, 2013, 12:56:21 am
Latvian do you play on a potato or is the interface really that huge
i play on huge potato :)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on August 19, 2013, 01:59:45 am
Current MP game

bagge: Byzantium
Segd: Sweden
vovka: Muscovy
Latviano: Castile
Herezy: France
Rogue: Mughals (originially Timurids)
Vagabond: England
Idzo: Napes (GTX)

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on August 19, 2013, 04:16:36 am
Yeah i will have to jump in again.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Vovka on August 19, 2013, 09:08:00 am
Yeah i will have to jump in again.
Take Perm  :P It will be annexed in 1 min after loading  :lol: so you do not have time to get tired of your master  :twisted:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 19, 2013, 09:14:57 am
bagge didnt mention that he started with bavaria but got raped and GTX and started as byzantium who by that moment somehow took about 8 provinces and ottomans didnt fight back.   8-)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on August 19, 2013, 07:45:56 pm
bagge didnt mention that he started with bavaria but got raped and GTX and started as byzantium who by that moment somehow took about 8 provinces and ottomans didnt fight back.   8-)

Wasn't worth mentioning 8-)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Artyem on August 19, 2013, 09:41:56 pm
I want to play EU4 now but my god damned power supply took a shit, won't get a new one until tomorrow :(

All I can do now is post on the forums on this shitty chromebook.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on August 19, 2013, 10:23:17 pm
Believe it or not but I'm currently experiencing exactly the same issue. Laptop is fucked itself again.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 19, 2013, 11:55:45 pm
try to guess which counties are controled by players?

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on August 19, 2013, 11:58:31 pm
try to guess which counties are controled by players?

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ze big ones oO
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on August 20, 2013, 12:41:06 am
peasant wars is officaly wort thing to happen. I start to think that they are bugged. Is there any way to end them? i played as france and got peasant wars around 1490 and now it is 1510. i fought against them first 10 years of war but than i just gave up because they just kept spawning but i ran out of money and manpower long befor that. One moment i counted about 195 k rebel troops. This might be a bit broken, not even mentioning constant events with stability, prestige or even legitemacy drops. Later i might aadd screenshots befor and after peasant wars.


Edit: year 23 of peasant wars, 7 new countries became independant, peasant wars go on, nothing helps, i fought back, killed them all, accepted all their demands, still nothing. No idea how to end this madness.

edit#2: about 84k rebels on my 14 provinces :( peasant wars go on and dont want to end.

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It's probably some other country supporting them, this can be awful if you're a less developed country, since now the Armies take their tech directly from the supporting country, not yours.
That army seems awfully easy to beat. There's no way the rebel army can sustain itself with 190k troops, use smart tactics to bait them into very low supply areas and they'll die, slowly sure, but it's better than fighting head on with a 190k army.
The best course of action that you can do is that you should handle them with military power, this isn't the same as EU3 where it was a chance every month, if you leave rebels to fester, even after defeating them in combat, they'll grow and grow until you can't handle them. Such as this case.

EDIT: I can also totally see protestant rebels. Yeah get your missionaries on those provinces ASAP unless you want them to get worse. I think your country maybe past the point of no return. You can either convert your country to protestanism if you have more protestant provinces than catholic, but then again the catholics will revolt. I don't see any way you can beat the peasant rebellion though.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on August 20, 2013, 02:22:56 am
bagge didnt mention that he started with bavaria but got raped and GTX and started as byzantium who by that moment somehow took about 8 provinces and ottomans didnt fight back.   8-)

Oh...for a second I was kinda impressed.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Artyem on August 20, 2013, 10:55:14 am
Forming the Mughal Empire is easy enough, since it only takes about 14 years to annex all of Delhi.  The hard part I found is trying to deal with the damn near invincible zealots that start to pop up.  They kept popping up in groups of 12k and ended up wiping like 25k of my own troops.  Otherwise, pretty much no other country can take you down.

Japan is also much easier to play as, I joined in late on a game and the AI had already annexed all but two provinces in mainland Japan and hate taken over all of Korea and most of north east China.  It was like looking at Japan's WW2 borders but in 1520.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on August 21, 2013, 02:15:30 am
Forming the Mughal Empire is easy enough, since it only takes about 14 years to annex all of Delhi.  The hard part I found is trying to deal with the damn near invincible zealots that start to pop up.  They kept popping up in groups of 12k and ended up wiping like 25k of my own troops.  Otherwise, pretty much no other country can take you down.

Japan is also much easier to play as, I joined in late on a game and the AI had already annexed all but two provinces in mainland Japan and hate taken over all of Korea and most of north east China.  It was like looking at Japan's WW2 borders but in 1520.

I hear spamming Cav as Mughal Empire is how you don't get raped since their infantry is shit.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Artyem on August 21, 2013, 03:18:40 am
I hear spamming Cav as Mughal Empire is how you don't get raped since their infantry is shit.

Yeah, the cav is pretty good.  You don't really have to worry about money either, you make a shit ton.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 21, 2013, 06:53:09 am
Heh, just me and lorden playing a game. He started as burgunday and I as France.
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 21, 2013, 09:08:54 am
Heh, just me and lorden playing a game. He started as burgunday and I as France.
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i see he formed holland, and that means France and burgundy both exists!!  kill this abomination!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Banok on August 21, 2013, 09:24:08 am
Downloaded this game, loaded it up. then instantly uninstalled it.

I was hoping it would be different to CK2. I envy you people who have the attention span for these games.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Vovka on August 21, 2013, 10:11:07 am
Downloaded this game, loaded it up. then instantly uninstalled it.

I was hoping it would be different to CK2. I envy you people who have the attention span for these games.
why dat man still not banned  :!:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on August 21, 2013, 12:36:30 pm
Downloaded this game, loaded it up. then instantly uninstalled it.

I was hoping it would be different to CK2. I envy you people who have the attention span for these games.

Weed man. It's weeeee-eeed! Smoke a joint, save one for later, prepare few bottles of choco milk, fix a couple of sandwiches, makes sure to turn off your phone and disconnect from MSN/Facebook/etc. Needless to say it should be on your day off. I don't play slow strategy games during a usual working day, as it takes time to pick up where you left, and there is just too little time for that :) Might be one of the reasons i played close to 300 hours of CK2, and never finished a single game, even though it was going smooth. Usually, i start a new game on a friday evening, and drop it by the end of the weekend...
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 21, 2013, 07:48:10 pm
i see he formed holland, and that means France and burgundy both exists!!  kill this abomination!

Burgundy no longer exists. All territories that were true Burgundian, got transferred to me when he created Holland.

We were allied, until I crashed and the AI took over for like 1 day. Insta cancel alliance and now, we aren't freinds. Though we target each others enemies, I primarily attack austria same time he does. But that's it. Spain and the other territories are done without his help. I can basically man handle anyone. 180K man power and I gain 1,000+ per month.

Actually, Granada exists, and is Catholic, now. My only ally on the Iberian Peninsula. Shoulda seen spain bout 40 years ago. Completly owned ALL of algiers(by siege controlling them), and then I went to war. They had 40k troops, stuck in africa while nothing was on the peninsula. So their war exhaustion was like at 20 when I slaughtered them. Paid rebels to retake all those provinces that spain no longer has. Portugual had 1 province and aragaon and granada didn't exist. Been fun reaming Spain and Austria Constantly.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on August 22, 2013, 02:10:31 am
Heh, just me and lorden playing a game. He started as burgunday and I as France.
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What is this gigantic USSR-looking thing ?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Artyem on August 22, 2013, 02:45:42 am
What is this gigantic USSR-looking thing ?

I want to say that it's Muscovy, but I could be wrong.  Would be much more amazing if Manchu conquered its way to Europe though.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 22, 2013, 04:39:03 am
I want to say that it's Muscovy, but I could be wrong.  Would be much more amazing if Manchu conquered its way to Europe though.

Muscovy.

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Havoco on August 22, 2013, 04:40:17 am
Genghis khan reborn ofc
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Necrorave on August 22, 2013, 11:37:17 pm
Am I the only one who enjoys playing Under-Dog countries and getting rolled over and over waiting for that "One time" you finally become a powerful force?

I find it exciting.  I love being scared of another force rather than thinking "I can take them".  It leaves me with a better feeling and sense of accomplishment.  I also hate micromanaging a large amount of things at the same time, so I start small and spread out rather then scattered.

Keeping things centralized and close is how I roll.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on August 22, 2013, 11:52:44 pm
Its really the only way to pkay. Unkess you raise yourself up from nothing the achievement is not your own.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: BASNAK on August 23, 2013, 12:07:20 am
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Playing as Yemen. Went extremly well focusing colonization and then conquering the Sub-Saharan countries. Just needed around 6-9k men to take out Swahili alone.

Then with all the Swahilian Gold I had was enough to Rape the Mamlukes in 2-4 wars gaining me egypt.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Artyem on August 24, 2013, 11:40:37 am
Clan mate (Hanson) and I started up a new game a couple nights ago, he was Vijiyanagar and I was Brunei.  He formed Hindustan by like 1470 and I formed Malaya by 1493.  I think he decided he wanted to go and colonize Africa while trying to burn a path into Europe so he could westernize while I wanted to colonize a path to the New World via the Pacific.  I kinda got side tracked by Australia though, which has so far proved worthy of my colonists.

I gotta say, this save is one of the best I've played in a long time; something about it just makes it much more appealing.

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on August 24, 2013, 12:01:48 pm
Is it possible to colonize the grey areas?..
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 24, 2013, 12:17:07 pm
Clan mate (Hanson) and I started up a new game a couple nights ago, he was Vijiyanagar and I was Brunei.  He formed Hindustan by like 1470 and I formed Malaya by 1493.  I think he decided he wanted to go and colonize Africa while trying to burn a path into Europe so he could westernize while I wanted to colonize a path to the New World via the Pacific.  I kinda got side tracked by Australia though, which has so far proved worthy of my colonists.

I gotta say, this save is one of the best I've played in a long time; something about it just makes it much more appealing.

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if nobody is playing in europe it turns out quiet interesting.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: BASNAK on August 24, 2013, 04:17:26 pm
Is it possible to colonize the grey areas?..

You can colonize grey areas yes. But not all. Places like North Canada, Sahara etc cannot be colonized or travelled through. They usually tell you when you hover your mouse over the provinces.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on August 27, 2013, 06:37:51 pm
so just played the demo to see if i would have like it, put in about 4hrs of work on Austria.  I had absolutely no idea what i was doing, kept pushing wasd keys to move and was switching the map a whole assortment of colors. I first started with the whole northern border of Austria  in a Finnish revolt where they had like 60 troops which i eventually overcame.  I took over Antwerpen and the surrounding area after the revolt but couldnt figure out how to annex all of the territories they had taken, eventually they got to keep one territory which i broke an alliance with to go to war to take it as well.  Venice kept claiming my land every like 2 months or so,  I couldnt figure out how to research anything, it kept telling me to colonize Africa and i had no idea how to do it.   I had a stability of -4 for most of the game, Played for like an hour with 1 advisor because i wasnt sure what to do, and kept having people leave the Holy Roman Empire.  Also didnt realize i was the king of the Holy Roman Empire until near the end of my playthrough lol.  Still dont understand the point in getting access with other peoples ports because it didnt seem to extend the range of my vessels at all.  Never once saw a pirate btw, do they exist, because all i kept seeing was Venice, Spain, and Frisia sailing all over the goddamn place.  Also, the trade system totally lost me, do i have to send/build a boat? or do we autotrade once we pick a place to trade with?  Also what made other places better to trade with than another, since half the places i saw just had 0's for everything? did i not discover those? it said i had already did.

Well in the end, playing the demo sparked my interest to wanna play more, but im still not sure what to do, or if it will have replay value enough to wanna keep playing.  I bought civilization 5 and played through it on the gigantic world one time and then never really played it again.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 27, 2013, 07:41:03 pm
just get someone who knows how to play it to play with you. Great game.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 27, 2013, 10:32:21 pm
so just played the demo to see if i would have like it, put in about 4hrs of work on Austria.  I had absolutely no idea what i was doing, kept pushing wasd keys to move and was switching the map a whole assortment of colors. I first started with the whole northern border of Austria  in a Finnish revolt where they had like 60 troops which i eventually overcame.  I took over Antwerpen and the surrounding area after the revolt but couldnt figure out how to annex all of the territories they had taken, eventually they got to keep one territory which i broke an alliance with to go to war to take it as well.  Venice kept claiming my land every like 2 months or so,  I couldnt figure out how to research anything, it kept telling me to colonize Africa and i had no idea how to do it.   I had a stability of -4 for most of the game, Played for like an hour with 1 advisor because i wasnt sure what to do, and kept having people leave the Holy Roman Empire.  Also didnt realize i was the king of the Holy Roman Empire until near the end of my playthrough lol.  Still dont understand the point in getting access with other peoples ports because it didnt seem to extend the range of my vessels at all.  Never once saw a pirate btw, do they exist, because all i kept seeing was Venice, Spain, and Frisia sailing all over the goddamn place.  Also, the trade system totally lost me, do i have to send/build a boat? or do we autotrade once we pick a place to trade with?  Also what made other places better to trade with than another, since half the places i saw just had 0's for everything? did i not discover those? it said i had already did.

Well in the end, playing the demo sparked my interest to wanna play more, but im still not sure what to do, or if it will have replay value enough to wanna keep playing.  I bought civilization 5 and played through it on the gigantic world one time and then never really played it again.

Did you ignore the tutorial? The tutorial does a good job explaining the basics enough.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on August 28, 2013, 01:25:54 am
Wasnt much of a tutorial on the demo, I just closed it because it told me next to nothing, so i dove in head first and started playing.

I just played as portugal, which went pretty poorly i might add.  I started by going to war with Morrocco for CasaBlanca as i had a claim for it and it was a mission objective.  As soon as i started the war, Great Britain chimes in asking me to help them in the war, i egregiously accepted to not take the penalty hit.  I had already committed all my troops to Africa, so this was kinda lame as France comes out of nowhere and lands troops in Portugal.  I ended up being stuck in a war with morrocco that wouldnt end even though i occupied 3 of their territories they refused to concede defeat or let me for that matter, i eventually ran out of manpower and gold, attempting to fight on both fronts and had to take loans out until i just went apeshit broke. 

Any advice? lol
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 28, 2013, 03:47:32 am
Yea, Ignore England. You get shit up if you follow them.(depends on you, try to wait out the years of the hundred years wars. England WILL lose, just depends on time.

Or, you can do other things, like NOT war morrocco(actually a good idea, btw. Converting to catholic will be hard that early). Spain will go for you, so getting powerful allies to counter Castille is smart.

As an FYI: with England, I hot joined, so the AI was some 700 dollars in loans(12 74 dollar loans) involved in 2 wars(burgundy and France) had rebellions out the wazoo, and...well it suck bad.

50 years later, I paid back all debts, owned Scotland and Ireland, and had the biggest navy. England is a good ally, just they start off real real bad. gotta wait it out by like 30 years.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Largg on August 28, 2013, 06:26:51 am
I've played a few hundred years as Portugal, my first real attempt in EU series. Here's few points and thoughts so far:

- Alliances are hardly worth it, they just succumb you into pointless wars. Coalitions are much better choice.
- You can call back colonists after they've reached the destination, you don't need to watch the meter go all the way up. It will be slower but might be useful if you need to hog land fast before others get foothold on continents.
- Pillaging the natives if by far the easiest and fastest way to get money. Mali, Huron, Shawnee etc etc., you can beat them very easily and get thousands of gold fast.
- There's no need and no point(?) coring all your colonies. It costs a ton of admin points and will get slower and slower by the time. Core a few so you can reach farther and recruit units.
- Plan your colonial conquests according to trade nodes and flows, they cannot be changed. Steering trade on multiple points and collecting it in the end gives loads of money.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Vovka on August 28, 2013, 09:44:20 am
I've played a few hundred years as Portugal, my first real attempt in EU series. Here's few points and thoughts so far:

- Alliances are hardly worth it, they just succumb you into pointless wars. Coalitions are much better choice.
in ally wars u can make seperate peace and u cant make separete peace in coalition
- You can call back colonists after they've reached the destination, you don't need to watch the meter go all the way up. It will be slower but might be useful if you need to hog land fast before others get foothold on continents.
u will pay extramoney for each colony if # colony > #colonist
- Pillaging the natives if by far the easiest and fastest way to get money. Mali, Huron, Shawnee etc etc., you can beat them very easily and get thousands of gold fast.
- There's no need and no point(?) coring all your colonies. It costs a ton of admin points and will get slower and slower by the time. Core a few so you can reach farther and recruit units.
goodluck with 100+ over_extension
- Plan your colonial conquests according to trade nodes and flows, they cannot be changed. Steering trade on multiple points and collecting it in the end gives loads of money.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Largg on August 28, 2013, 12:04:31 pm

in ally wars u can make seperate peace and u cant make separete peace in coalition
Still you will need to get the 10 warscore to make separate peace which can be quite a nuisance especially if you need to organize trading fleets etc.

u will pay extramoney for each colony if # colony > #colonist
True, used only if needed.

goodluck with 100+ over_extension
Not with distant overseas, I think it's related to continent where colony is.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on August 28, 2013, 02:11:30 pm
You're better off making stron allies than pointlessly jumping into coalitions.  Coalitions have a use but they are not as beneficial as strong alliances.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Vovka on August 28, 2013, 02:26:11 pm
You're better off making stron allies than pointlessly jumping into coalitions.  Coalitions have a use but they are not as beneficial as strong alliances.
coalition system is most stupid thing in the game  :? mainly consists of former enemies that can hurt a little, and only annoyed with a bunch of useless battles
I prefer to use my vassals as allies, they cant  attack and will always come to help u in war)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on August 28, 2013, 03:57:53 pm
Alliances are dank as fuck.

Find a strong European power, such as Austria, France or Burgundy. Suck their dicks for a bit and any European war you'll most probably win.

Worked wonders when I was playing as Castile.
Now I'm currently playing as the timurids and fuck everything about the new over expansion system, badboy was so much better. Every fucking province I need to core gives me over 40% over expansion and thus means I can't take everything in one go.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Necrorave on August 28, 2013, 05:39:51 pm
Started as Tuscany.  Took over most of Italy.  The Naples I am still working out due to my Alliance with Aragon.  (They own Naples's Ass right now)

All I know is you can be best friends with a country and they will turn on you for no apparent reason sometimes.  It can be frustrating.  Nonetheless, I own them now.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on August 28, 2013, 05:44:24 pm
Only reliable allies are vassals, at least that's how EUIII was.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: BASNAK on August 28, 2013, 05:51:13 pm
In my first game as Venice I found Coalitions to be stupid as fuck. I tried pressing join coalition versus Ottomans, just to see what it does. Then Hungary or some weakass country declared war on the Ottomans and it automatically made me join the side of Hungary and couldn't conduct any diplomacy with the Ottomans, only the Hungarians could do that. And I ended up loosing a shitload of provinces after we lost the war - Because the Hungarians decided to keep their own shit and give mine away.

So lesson of the day, don't use Coalitions and Fuck the Hungarians. (nothing personal Christo :D)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on August 28, 2013, 05:52:00 pm
fuck you too mate  :mrgreen:

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 28, 2013, 10:30:07 pm
Alliances are dank as fuck.

Find a strong European power, such as Austria, France or Burgundy. Suck their dicks for a bit and any European war you'll most probably win.

Worked wonders when I was playing as Castile.
Now I'm currently playing as the timurids and fuck everything about the new over expansion system, badboy was so much better. Every fucking province I need to core gives me over 40% over expansion and thus means I can't take everything in one go.

Same thing I tell everyone else. Don't fuking do that. You have to do it piecemeal, unless the provinces are crap(like the ones in arabia or africa) then you can just merc them all day. I like this new OE system. In curbs growth of players(AI seems to not worry to much about it), by causing rebellions, etc.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on August 28, 2013, 11:04:31 pm
Same thing I tell everyone else. Don't fuking do that. You have to do it piecemeal, unless the provinces are crap(like the ones in arabia or africa) then you can just merc them all day. I like this new OE system. In curbs growth of players(AI seems to not worry to much about it), by causing rebellions, etc.
Yeah but I'm the freaking Timurids.
If I don't go to a long war, my shit get's wrecked with the "REBELLIONS FOR NO WAR". It's awful and will only stop if I can form the Mughal Empire.
Oh that needs fucking Dehli and Kashmir to be annexed and core.
All of that will take around 3-4 wars and then add the truce timers... You can see why it gets awful really quick. Kashmir itself takes around 40% over expansion. I wish it was like the EU3 system where you needed to vassalize them and then you can form the Mughal Empire.
But nope.

Oh and there's no way to deal with over expansion other than coring.
Badboy could have been dealt in a multitude of ways, you could hire an advisor that helped you reduced, you could build an embassy, some events reduced, your leaders stats reduced it, or you could just wait it out.
Compare that to what it is right now.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Jarold on August 28, 2013, 11:36:44 pm
Is EU4 a demanding game, I want to play it but my laptop is...well...a laptop.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on August 28, 2013, 11:48:18 pm
it's not that demanding.
as long as you've got a graphics card that can support shader version 3 you should be fine.
it's more CPU demanding than graphically demanding, and my 2.7GHz cpu can play it wonders so yeah.
as far as I can see it has virtually the same graphical quality as CK2
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 29, 2013, 12:53:37 am
Yeah but I'm the freaking Timurids.
If I don't go to a long war, my shit get's wrecked with the "REBELLIONS FOR NO WAR". It's awful and will only stop if I can form the Mughal Empire.
Oh that needs fucking Dehli and Kashmir to be annexed and core.
All of that will take around 3-4 wars and then add the truce timers... You can see why it gets awful really quick. Kashmir itself takes around 40% over expansion. I wish it was like the EU3 system where you needed to vassalize them and then you can form the Mughal Empire.
But nope.

Oh and there's no way to deal with over expansion other than coring.
Badboy could have been dealt in a multitude of ways, you could hire an advisor that helped you reduced, you could build an embassy, some events reduced, your leaders stats reduced it, or you could just wait it out.
Compare that to what it is right now.

Ah, that's where you failed. You stack your wars. Declare one while the other is in truce. Finish that war off, attack the other, core taken provinces from the first. Finish that war, attack nogai or some shit for money/time, then repeat until finished.

You just don't want to learn to adapt. It's easy to do, you have to be smart about how you play though. Can't just "I WANT ANNEX AND BE BAD" anymore. It will fuk you up. You have to play it smart and extend but not OVERextend to much.

(also, the constant war? is that really a problem? Haven't played nomads before, would make sense why they are always fighting something.)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: BASNAK on August 29, 2013, 01:45:52 am
Ok I started a new game, and could barely afford 20.000 men around year 1550 as Venice, And then some pretender rebels from my own country (after I became a monachy) attack me with 66.000 state of the art soldiers - What the fuck? There's not even that much fucking manpower in my country. QQ - Someone needs to mod this or patch it. Absolutely disgusting completely ruined my game.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Artyem on August 29, 2013, 01:50:38 am
Rebels are more threatening than other factions now, it's pretty fucking ridiculous.  Zealots and Pretender rebels scare the shit out of me, I lost an entire army to 12k zealots as the Mughals once.  Never again.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 29, 2013, 03:19:38 am
Rebels are more threatening than other factions now, it's pretty fucking ridiculous.  Zealots and Pretender rebels scare the shit out of me, I lost an entire army to 12k zealots as the Mughals once.  Never again.

Rebels are seriously scary. That and the damn border friction, bs. Both need to be fixed, to over the top atm.

Though, honestly, rebels are fine sometimes, I just think that the extremes need fixing a bit....
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on August 29, 2013, 04:10:55 am
fuck you too mate  :mrgreen:

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Fuck you!! I was soo happy that i made the Italian nation and now you make me cry.  All that time spent saving Hungary and i could just be taking over the world.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on August 29, 2013, 04:59:18 am
lmao
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Necrorave on August 29, 2013, 07:57:16 am
Found a goldmine, didn't invest in economic ideas.

brb, inflation.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on August 29, 2013, 01:07:19 pm
Found a goldmine, didn't invest in economic ideas.

brb, inflation.

You only get inflation if your economy relies too much on the gold mine(s).
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Necrorave on August 29, 2013, 02:39:44 pm
You only get inflation if your economy relies too much on the gold mine(s).

How would I slow that down?  I had a decent flow of gold before the goldmine.  Now its out of control and all I want to do is stop it.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 29, 2013, 03:23:27 pm
How would I slow that down?  I had a decent flow of gold before the goldmine.  Now its out of control and all I want to do is stop it.
some advisors reduce inflation
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Necrorave on August 29, 2013, 03:33:23 pm
some advisors reduce inflation

Yes, but you have to wait if one is not available.  Also, the rate they lower inflation is very minimal.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 29, 2013, 04:15:03 pm
Yes, but you have to wait if one is not available.  Also, the rate they lower inflation is very minimal.

Go the economic idea route. you get a constant .1 decrease(plus advisers) and when fully upgraded, can reduce inflation over 3 with admin points.

Otherwise: gotta wait and hope you get an event that lowers inflation.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Herezy92 on August 30, 2013, 12:56:16 am
Hey guys, this is the campaign we did with : Vagabond (The awesome host playing with ZHU china), Bagge (Japan), Latvian (Hindoustan), Rogue (Byzantium), Krampe (Castilla), Neresto (Moscovy).

We started in 1444.

Here a couple of screenshots to let you enjoy our campaign :
(This is the game from me as France)
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And now Asian area :
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Here a zoom in Europe :
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Here the religious situation in Europe : (With the Byzantium effort Orthodox  is now in a huge part of Europe.)
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World situation :
Japan & Zhu are allied.
Zhu is under heavy coalition.

Hindustan was partly played by latvian.
When Hindustan was played by latvian, he betrayed his asian comrade to let the spanish conquer & invade the Asia. He signed a agreement with the Evil.
Around 50 years later, Hindustan is now getting punished for his act. But it's Spain himslef who is crushing them.

Byzantium is allied with Spain & Moscovy.
Byzantium is leading a personal union with Geogria.
Byzantium has the 3rd best ground army. 94.000 soldiers

Spain is ally with savoy & Byzantium in europe.
Spain has the most important number of lands. (already in Asia)
Spain has the 2nd best ground army. 95.000 soldiers

France is Allied with Sweden & Hessen.
France is leading the personal union of Trier and Barbant.
France has the first ground army. 122.000 soldiers.


I will try to get more infos about our game.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on August 30, 2013, 01:29:22 am
Lol, JAPON.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 30, 2013, 06:58:38 am
i didnt play all the time, whenever i leave country in good situation AI fucks them up :(
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Herezy92 on August 30, 2013, 11:59:53 am
Aha latvian, what ever you play, you succesfully destroy the country in a couple of months !
Even the easiest countries can not handle your super-power to blow up them. :D

- Remember Ottomans  -Remember France -Remember England. (And without my HUGE help when you played Castilla, we could add id to the list :D )


Latvian, The country-slayer.

Nice title.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on August 30, 2013, 12:04:01 pm
You don't mention my fleet eh? :wink:

@Latvian, Hindustan got completely destroyed when they started westernizing. I finally had a stable time when I westernized, barely any stupid events and not many revolts 8-)

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When Hindustan was played by latvian, he betrayed his asian comrade to let the spanish conquer & invade the Asia. He signed a agreement with the Evil.
Around 50 years later, Hindustan is now getting punished for his act. But it's Spain himslef who is crushing them.

Ah yeah, foolish act by latvian the traitorous scum. Thought you indians believed in karma :(
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 30, 2013, 12:14:52 pm
Aha latvian, what ever you play, you succesfully destroy the country in a couple of months !
Even the easiest countries can not handle your super-power to blow up them. :D

- Remember Ottomans  -Remember France -Remember England. (And without my HUGE help when you played Castilla, we could add id to the list :D )


Latvian, The country-slayer.

Nice title.
i dont think i broke ottomans :p
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Muunilinst on August 30, 2013, 04:12:52 pm
ZHOU!  8-)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on August 31, 2013, 11:12:03 pm
Playing Japan through the 17th centuary is just... retarded.

After I enforced the Sukako Law (closing the western trade) I got Catholic Zealots running over my country. In total I had 419 regements of Catholic Zealots steamrolling my country. Manpower ran out and I only had 30k troops left to fight them. Each catholic event I got there was 40k revolts, which eventually got stacked to 70-80k rebels.

You can't accept their demands either, cause you cannot change your religion from Shinto.

GG EU4
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on August 31, 2013, 11:28:57 pm
SHAMFUR DISPRAY!!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 01, 2013, 03:30:26 am
Playing Japan through the 17th centuary is just... retarded.

After I enforced the Sukako Law (closing the western trade) I got Catholic Zealots running over my country. In total I had 419 regements of Catholic Zealots steamrolling my country. Manpower ran out and I only had 30k troops left to fight them. Each catholic event I got there was 40k revolts, which eventually got stacked to 70-80k rebels.

You can't accept their demands either, cause you cannot change your religion from Shinto.

GG EU4

Big problem. Seems to be known. Why I haven't played as JAPAN yet. THey are bugged as fuk.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on September 07, 2013, 05:28:39 pm
you know that you have played too much of europa universalis when: i was in the shop buying my stuff and suddenly idzo is calling me to say that he is visiting hungary and is going to annex it :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on September 07, 2013, 07:38:28 pm
you know that you have played too much of europa universalis when: i was in the shop buying my stuff and suddenly idzo is calling me to say that he is visiting hungary and is going to annex it :D

rawr
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on September 07, 2013, 09:54:50 pm
this is my baby commonwealth :)

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i lold

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on September 08, 2013, 02:01:22 am
You have a lot of clean/formed nations in that game, very pretty.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on September 08, 2013, 12:25:22 pm
i still dont know how to get normal king, no matter how hard i try i always get idiots like 223 or 042 , while others have 454 or even some 666 (  i have seen like 3 or 4 kings like this) . Even some shitty random countries get excelent rulers from time to tim.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Oberyn on September 08, 2013, 03:14:10 pm
Hmm I played a Japan game and never had more than 40 regiments of catholics rebel in any one single province, at the time (~1650 I think) catholicism started to appear my army limit was at around 50 regiments or so. If you deal with each rebellion fast before it can capture provinces and spread, merging with other rebel groups it's rather easy to deal with. A good idea would be to keep your "missions" options clear, as soon as a rebellion appears you can stack +2 stability over and over by choosing the "eliminate rebels" mission. This will easily get you to +3 stability and enable you to choose the decision to close western trade, after that catholicism will stop spreading and you can convert catholic provinces. By the time I enforced that law I only had 3 or 4 provinces that were catholic, and this is while having colonized the philippines, most of the "russian" pacific coast and the entire western coast of north america (excluding aztec territory).

PS: Japon is closer to Nipon (Nihon) than Japan is, so it's actually less retarded. GG english.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Abay on September 08, 2013, 05:40:02 pm
I just bought EUIV and now feel very excited about it   :D
What I wonder is that if it is possible to learn new thigs in the game in a short time after EUIII
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on September 08, 2013, 08:52:10 pm
Hmm I played a Japan game and never had more than 40 regiments of catholics rebel in any one single province, at the time (~1650 I think) catholicism started to appear my army limit was at around 50 regiments or so. If you deal with each rebellion fast before it can capture provinces and spread, merging with other rebel groups it's rather easy to deal with. A good idea would be to keep your "missions" options clear, as soon as a rebellion appears you can stack +2 stability over and over by choosing the "eliminate rebels" mission. This will easily get you to +3 stability and enable you to choose the decision to close western trade, after that catholicism will stop spreading and you can convert catholic provinces. By the time I enforced that law I only had 3 or 4 provinces that were catholic, and this is while having colonized the philippines, most of the "russian" pacific coast and the entire western coast of north america (excluding aztec territory).

PS: Japon is closer to Nipon (Nihon) than Japan is, so it's actually less retarded. GG english.

Oh? Only 4 provinces, that's quite lucky. I had 10+ provinces (I too colonized the philippines and the russian pacific coast) by that time and after I closed the western trades the events were spamming every month and I had no chance converting anything since the Catholic Zealots went berserk.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Berserkadin on September 11, 2013, 07:02:16 pm
So, I've just encountered a strange bug in my Prussia game, Cologne is my vassal (who doesnt like me at all), and it says that I'm at war with them, but in the diplomacy interface I can just declare war on them. Also, Frieslandish troops are attacking my land, but I can't sue for peace with them, and looking at their diplomacy window, it says that their at war with Cologne*. Kinda annoying since I was just going to form Germany, but need to be at peace.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Artyem on September 11, 2013, 08:36:31 pm
My singleplayer game in 1639:

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Idzo on September 11, 2013, 09:44:29 pm
My singleplayer game in 1639:

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YOU GO MY NIGGA! UR THE BESTEST! STRONKEST!! NO ONE MESS WITH CROATIA!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Berserkadin on September 12, 2013, 03:12:21 am
My Brandenburg/Prussian/Germany game, just formed Germany, so got tons of claims, and 1821 isn't far away. Time for some total war, might even escalate into a world wide war. Great Britain never formed due to Sweden getting some provinces on british soil  :lol:

Le Claims

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Idzo on September 12, 2013, 11:50:30 am
My Brandenburg/Prussian/Germany game, just formed Germany, so got tons of claims, and 1821 isn't far away. Time for some total war, might even escalate into a world wide war. Great Britain never formed due to Sweden getting some provinces on british soil  :lol:

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Me and Latvian started with Hansa and Saxony.
Latvian with Hansa expanded to Holland till border with France. and other side till Sweden and partly on sweden land.

I Started with Saxony,  conquring few smaller Hre countrys. Later on created Germany. Leaded personal with Poland and intergrated them later on.
Last stae i got parts of austria, switzerland. i alose have few vassals how are keeping me HRE emparor.
After France, 2nd stronkest in worldz.

No screens cuz i'm CBA. Lat will do that. i know it.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on September 12, 2013, 04:21:50 pm

Me and Latvian started with Hansa and Saxony.
Latvian with Hansa expanded to Holland till border with France. and other side till Sweden and partly on sweden land.

I Started with Saxony,  conquring few smaller Hre countrys. Later on created Germany. Leaded personal with Poland and intergrated them later on.
Last stae i got parts of austria, switzerland. i alose have few vassals how are keeping me HRE emparor.
After France, 2nd stronkest in worldz.

No screens cuz i'm CBA. Lat will do that. i know it.
no he wont
P.S.maybe later
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Necrorave on September 12, 2013, 04:30:43 pm
Alright, seriously guys.  Fuck France.

They do nothing but get in my way of forming Italy.  I just need Lombardia and they won't give it up.  I declared war with the coalition to get just that one province and they let Spain take most of their southern/Western provinces while England wrecked their northern ones but they would not give up Lombardia.

I will post a picture later...

Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Berserkadin on September 12, 2013, 04:43:38 pm
Yeah fuck France, but I fucked France on my campaign, waged war, spanked their ass, got 2 provinces of them, and then forced them to release Burgundy and some 2-3 province countries.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Grumbs on September 13, 2013, 05:32:04 pm
Didn't get this yet because it seemed overpriced in Steam store, plus if they put DLC in like CK2 it didn't seem worth getting straight away

Its £15.37 here http://www.gameholds.com/europa-universalis-iv-pc-game.html (saw it on google shopping), plus you can put in "gocdkeys" in coupon area for 5% discount on that. I got it and Steam accepted my code in UK. Might just be a European version (has 4 languages) and Steam can be iffy with cdkeys sometimes but it worked here. Its just a basic version, doesn't come with any dlc
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Grumbs on September 26, 2013, 01:53:25 pm
Big update was released a couple days ago

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Really enjoying this game atm, more than EU3
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on September 26, 2013, 02:58:39 pm
"Sunset Invasion - Start as the Aztecs and conquer Lisbon, Madrid, Paris, London, Amsterdam & Rome."

legit
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Tore on October 06, 2013, 10:02:19 pm
http://www.macgamestore.com/product/2912/Europa-Universalis-IV/ (http://www.macgamestore.com/product/2912/Europa-Universalis-IV/)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on October 07, 2013, 12:43:03 pm
"Sunset Invasion - Start as the Aztecs and conquer Lisbon, Madrid, Paris, London, Amsterdam & Rome."

legit

Can I do it in another game ? :lol:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on October 07, 2013, 10:11:07 pm
Civ series?

I think that's as close as you can get.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Grumbs on October 07, 2013, 10:39:39 pm
I didn't like the idea of having a fantasy DLC mixed in with my historical stuff, so don't think I ever bought it. But just how unrealistic is it? They did away with the real country events after EU2 (except kind of brought them back in 4, but nowhere near as in depth), and couldn't the Aztecs have been visited by China or Japan and become a more technologically advanced country compared to how our history went? I'm not sure I like locking the Native Americas into a backward technology group when its only based on them being discovered so far after our own history had progressed as it did (like visiting guys that were hundreds of years in the past technologically. We change history tonnes when we play anyway

I didn't like how Sunset Invasion was presented though, the idea of invasions coming from the Americas whether you liked it or not. Kind of felt forced and it was even presented as a fantasy DLC
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Necrorave on October 10, 2013, 08:45:20 pm
Jaunpur, best cat.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on October 10, 2013, 08:58:33 pm
so iw as playing with vagabond herezy an bagge from time to time and suddenly we noticed something
 
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note: we had nothing to do with that :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 10, 2013, 09:49:25 pm
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Finally did it, though they have taken Rhodes, i will take it back, i wont falter, i will kill the Ottomans, that is my goal!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Hobb on October 11, 2013, 09:54:10 pm
nice, ironman mode?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 12, 2013, 04:22:40 am
yes, of course! its been a long ride, ill post the final screenshot when i get done, though its approaching fast on 1821, idk if ill be able  to take on the Ottomans, they have 250k troops, and i only have 65k, nobody wants to help me fight them either since the jackass' sided with Austria and Hungary.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on October 17, 2013, 02:54:59 pm
Okey, started an Ironman save with Byzantium.

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Ottomans have not yet attacked me (!) and I'm expanding in Italy. I'm strong enough to conquer Naples now.

My first actions:
*Convert ruler to general
*Transport 4 regs to Gulf of Venice
*Attack Urbino
*Annex Urbino
*Claims on Rome and Romagna
*Move capital to Rome

I will cry if something bad happens now :P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 17, 2013, 07:39:52 pm
Okey, started an Ironman save with Byzantium.

Ottomans have not yet attacked me (!) and I'm expanding in Italy. I'm strong enough to conquer Naples now.

My first actions:
*Convert ruler to general
*Transport 4 regs to Gulf of Venice
*Attack Urbino
*Annex Urbino
*Claims on Rome and Romagna
*Move capital to Rome

I will cry if something bad happens now :P

thats a unique way of doing the Byz, though i only worry what will happen when you conquer Roma, as everyone will be up in arms to force you to give it back.  You could have simply done the build40 galleys and block the port of Constantinople, that way they would have no chance of crossing over with troops and attacking you, then catch them while they are at war on the southern side and attack the northern with your troops,  Normally works quite well really.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on October 17, 2013, 07:42:14 pm
thats a unique way of doing the Byz, though i only worry what will happen when you conquer Roma, as everyone will be up in arms to force you to give it back.  You could have simply done the build40 galleys and block the port of Constantinople, that way they would have no chance of crossing over with troops and attacking you, then catch them while they are at war on the southern side and attack the northern with your troops,  Normally works quite well really.

Last patch fucked that tactic completely. Ottomans will simply ask Moldavia for MA and screw you over anyway. :(
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 18, 2013, 05:13:43 am
Last patch fucked that tactic completely. Ottomans will simply ask Moldavia for MA and screw you over anyway. :(

oh i didnt know, i havent tried playing as them again post patch, the patch i think fixed some things and broke more.

i wish they would fix the damn holy crusade stuff, and the excommunication, doesnt work at all.  And whats the point in making someone break an alliance if they can just re-enter the alliance just before you can attack them again.  I keep attaking the Ottomans allies and breaking them, but by the time i can attack again, they are allied again.  And i dont mind them being lucky, but like holy hell, they have so many troops, and it takes 2 times the amount of troops to fight one of their 40 man regiments.  I just dont have that kind of ability, wish i didnt have to play with Lucky nations in Ironman.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 18, 2013, 05:13:37 pm
wish i didnt have to play with Lucky nations in Ironman.

Can't turn it off in ironman mode?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 18, 2013, 05:39:30 pm
nope, the game devs said it makes it more challenging that way.  The creators of command and conquer did that with their hardest AI difficulty, they doubled its income and production values essentially making it just cheat, not outplay you.  I could just play with it off, but its just not the same for me, and i want the achievements too.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on October 18, 2013, 05:52:54 pm
i wish they would fix the damn holy crusade stuff, and the excommunication, doesnt work at all.  And whats the point in making someone break an alliance if they can just re-enter the alliance just before you can attack them again.  I keep attaking the Ottomans allies and breaking them, but by the time i can attack again, they are allied again.  And i dont mind them being lucky, but like holy hell, they have so many troops, and it takes 2 times the amount of troops to fight one of their 40 man regiments.  I just dont have that kind of ability, wish i didnt have to play with Lucky nations in Ironman.

Yeah I agree!

Excommunication only works if a human player does it. HEREZY did it during our MP game and I nearly lost the imperial throne cause of that 8-)

I really miss the crusader wars. Those were great and it would probably help vs the super strong Ottomans. They constantly get 6-6-6 rulers and always have the most ideas and still keep up in technology. Their quantity idea group is also a bitch since it allow them high manpower and a high forcelimit, while their traditions and ideas are ridicilously good for combat.

I really don't have a lot of love for Ottomans. I have never played them and never will. They are my life-sword enemies :P

Alliance stuff is kinda funny. I've been at war with countless other HRE-factions and after the war they want an alliance with me.

And breaking alliances and stuff is bullshit yeah. If you do break an alliance, they should get some kind of cooldown before they can ally again, maybe 20 years or so.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 18, 2013, 09:14:47 pm
Yeah I agree!

Excommunication only works if a human player does it. HEREZY did it during our MP game and I nearly lost the imperial throne cause of that 8-)

I really miss the crusader wars. Those were great and it would probably help vs the super strong Ottomans. They constantly get 6-6-6 rulers and always have the most ideas and still keep up in technology. Their quantity idea group is also a bitch since it allow them high manpower and a high forcelimit, while their traditions and ideas are ridicilously good for combat.

I really don't have a lot of love for Ottomans. I have never played them and never will. They are my life-sword enemies :P

Alliance stuff is kinda funny. I've been at war with countless other HRE-factions and after the war they want an alliance with me.

And breaking alliances and stuff is bullshit yeah. If you do break an alliance, they should get some kind of cooldown before they can ally again, maybe 20 years or so.

well they get a like -50 for separation by peace or something like that, but im not sure that it ever hurts them like it hurts us, as they ally up right away, even though i might not be able to do the same thing for like 5-10years afterwards.

id actually love to try and play a huge mp game of EU4 with like 12 people, though idk how it would work out, or how many players can actually play at one time, ive only ever played with one other person.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on October 18, 2013, 09:39:58 pm
The first weeks we had a games with 8 people. Unfortunately it died pretty quickly (stupid Rome 2) :(

I'd love for more people playing MP. Al tho the best part about being just 3-4 players is that you play more regularly
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on October 19, 2013, 10:42:09 pm
started singleplayer game as france and i got to say it is very hard

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 20, 2013, 06:51:45 am
I like to take the countries that are little and make them something great.  So far i've done that with the Knights, which im quite proud of, now im considering trying it with maybe Frisia, or maybe ill try Burgundy, seeing as they always seem to die rather quick, or maybe Provence.  Idk, just more appealing to me playing as the small fry.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on October 20, 2013, 06:56:11 am
wow latvian you dun goofed getting fucked that bad as france.

It's not 'easy' but france isn't the hardest....
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on October 20, 2013, 11:54:22 am
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13 colonies shall be mine! :twisted:

Note: Check my religion and tech

ps: My Byz save totally failed after getting gangbanged by Ottomans + Naples/Aragorn :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 21, 2013, 04:35:54 am
MEIOU best mod
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on October 22, 2013, 04:28:23 pm
ever wondered why russia is so strong? 
ladies and gentleman i present you the answer

check heir

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 22, 2013, 08:07:38 pm
ever wondered why russia is so strong? 
ladies and gentleman i present you the answer

check heir

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ya i had something similar pre patch, though it was with a cardinal, he was like 120 years old....
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on October 23, 2013, 08:15:12 pm
My latest Byzantium save.

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I WILL make a successful save when I reconquer my provinces properly. I beat Ottomans in a war (together with Austria and France :P) and reclaimed Athens and Epirus. Unfortunately Spain was gay and claimed Epirus and won the war.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on October 24, 2013, 05:46:39 pm
france is so hard 

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fun times :3

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check generals  8-)

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on October 24, 2013, 06:29:47 pm
France UP

buff pls
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on October 25, 2013, 08:20:10 pm
and here is next episode of how hard is france




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oh yeah and i am leading union with austra and USA :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Abay on October 25, 2013, 10:05:35 pm
and here is next episode of how hard is france
I played in ''hard'' with France and it was all easy to kick england, austria and spain actually. I focused on all land technologies. Just being patient is the key for playing with France I think  :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on October 29, 2013, 04:13:29 pm
and here is next episode of hard france


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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on October 29, 2013, 04:50:52 pm
and here is next episode of hard france


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:lol:

Some ironman screenies (click to enlarge):

Castile inherited Burgundy, which totally sucked ass for me. Would've been an fantastic game if I got Burgundy, as I already control all of Italy (vassals) and Bohemia in a PU. 3 reforms made
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Nobody likes the french!
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Operation save Byzantium!
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Vovka on October 29, 2013, 05:06:52 pm
Lost only 1st war and lose Achaea to turks for 5 years

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on October 30, 2013, 09:54:28 pm
Lost only 1st war and lose Achaea to turks for 5 years

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Ironman?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Vovka on October 31, 2013, 08:57:11 am
Ironman?
i dont need ironman cos i have iron ballz!  :P
will start today for byz with ironman mode, for moscow its too boring  :D

btw read some guides for byz after dat game no one didnt suggest declare war to albania at the start

so dat my pro tips
- declare war from start on albania
- move navy, block port, get 25% or more win score, peace offer for 60-80 gold, btw u can even vassalage it then give it to turks  and u will get 5 years of peace with turks

- build army, transport and move to trabizont, hord will attack georgia, declare war to trabizond unnex them and take as many geogians lands as u can (vassalage georgia ussless cos all hords want take it down even under ur patronage XD )     

- in 1st war against turk and cremea hunt heir fleet (i managed capture 10 ships in 1st war)

-take rodoc island asap and move capital here - rodoc + fleer = win in all wars agains turk in future


today will try vassalage serbia wallahia and bosnia after war against georgia ^^
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on October 31, 2013, 09:16:12 am
Step by step:

Day 1:
*Ally Serbia
*Spam gallies
*Convert ruler to general and use him
*Start transporting troops to Albania

Day 2/3/4 (doesn't matter)
*Declare war on Albania. IF Serbia doesn't reach Albania before Ottomans, restart. This will probably have to be done for 30 times before Serbia get the siege. Ottomans will reach it before but they will split their armies while sieging so Serbia will get the control. IF Serbia doesn't chose to stand still at their own lands.

If Ottomans doesn't ally Algiers, you could block Ottomans with just 24~ ships, and get an admiral for pete sake.

Once you block them, get get access through Moldavia/Poland and it's over, all your work for nothing.

GG latest patch :P

However, my most recent Ironman was quite good until I screw it up, which I can't really understand, but here goes:

*Allied stronk nations. Poland in the beginning, then Austria and finally Muscovy. Ottomans didn't declare war on me once (date was 1511).

I got all of the islands that belonged to me, and Trebizond.

2 Military techs above Ottomans (I had 10, so new troops) and they had 8. No military ideas or anything. I'm defending every battle (30k v 35k) and I still lost.

After that I just rage quit

I find playing Byzantium kinda frustrating
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Vovka on October 31, 2013, 09:23:12 am
eastern vs muslims  :P

will try it today
*Ally Serbia
*Declare war on Albania.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on October 31, 2013, 09:24:06 am
I miss EU3 :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on October 31, 2013, 09:31:10 am
Is it possible to have a fun time playing as Papal State ? THat's my thing now with EU games
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on October 31, 2013, 09:32:50 am
Is it possible to have a fun time playing as Papal State ? THat's my thing now with EU games

Yes!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Artyem on October 31, 2013, 10:36:21 pm
They made forming Prussia / Germany extremely easy in this one, it only took me somewhere around 100 - 150 years to get all of the core requirements for Germany when I started as Pomerania.

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I probably could have gotten it done faster, but I fought like four wars against the entirety of Europe (thank god for that Prussian discipline!) just to get the last two German cores. 
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on October 31, 2013, 11:45:15 pm
Prussian ideas are awesome, but god damn the size of that Finland. :P I'm used to see them with max 3 provinces.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Artyem on October 31, 2013, 11:57:17 pm
Prussian ideas are awesome, but god damn the size of that Finland. :P I'm used to see them with max 3 provinces.

Yeah, I was pretty impressed with that too, lol.  I'm not sure Spain will ever form, it's been a stalemate between Aragon and Castile since the game started.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Vovka on November 01, 2013, 08:02:50 am
Prussian ideas are awesome, but god damn the size of that Finland. :P I'm used to see them with max 3 provinces.
finland is cheat for russia, as moscowy u can easyly beat novgorod take all finland province exept neva - create finland and wait ^^ then patriots make all job for u and finland will grow or u can help them to get dat core to finland u just need to wait war betweеn  dania and Sweden  :P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Abay on November 01, 2013, 04:55:30 pm
I miss EU3 :D
I have eu3 and eu4 on my laptop and after eu4, eu3 seems really basic and baby stuff  :P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on November 02, 2013, 10:17:20 pm
me and idzo started new game, i play as bohemia and i already am emperor, while idzo is playing croatiana nd raping turklings

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 03, 2013, 11:56:00 pm
Started an EU4 MEIOU game as Tuareg, a shitty country with like 6 1-2 basetax 33 manpower provinces between the superpowers of the Maghreb and sub Sahara, thought it'd be a not that awfully hard game until I noticed how poor my provinces were, both my upper and lower neighbor can field 30k troops (seeing as Mali starts with cores on Djolof and Mane they'll likely soon be able to field closer to 50k) while my forcelimit is at 7, to add insult to injury Mali and Fez also ally a day or two after game start. After 3 reloads I was finally able to eat Songhai (due to starting with a core on one of their provs I can still core things there without conquering Mali), if I'm able to expand slowly eastwards without pissing off Mali/Fez enough to revoke my military access or invade me I might just stand a chance at succeeding.
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on November 04, 2013, 05:18:45 am
Started an EU4 MEIOU game as Tuareg, a shitty country with like 6 1-2 basetax 33 manpower provinces between the superpowers of the Maghreb and sub Sahara, thought it'd be a not that awfully hard game until I noticed how poor my provinces were, both my upper and lower neighbor can field 30k troops (seeing as Mali starts with cores on Djolof and Mane they'll likely soon be able to field closer to 50k) while my forcelimit is at 7, to add insult to injury Mali and Fez also ally a day or two after game start. After 3 reloads I was finally able to eat Songhai (due to starting with a core on one of their provs I can still core things there without conquering Mali), if I'm able to expand slowly eastwards without pissing off Mali/Fez enough to revoke my military access or invade me I might just stand a chance at succeeding.

The only thing thats sucks though, is that by the 1550's or maybe sooner, you will be getting attacked by westernization, and im sure either Spain or Portugal will be the likely aggressors to do it.  Good luck, you will need it, I wished they would make some of the fighting a little easier, i have a hard time thinking 2,000 Spaniards could kill 53,000 Aztec Warriors.  To me this just doesnt seem right when you see the final death toll is like 12 enemies and you were wiped out. 

Then comes the attempt at westernizing, stupid long, it took me as the Aztecs just short of 100 years(either incredibly bad luck, constant attacks from rebels and Europeans, or a flawed system) to do it, pretty much wasted the game for me, since i was trying to catch up with 14 tech in like 1750 by just finishing westernization....

So after that playthrough i vowed to not play any of the Native tribe like civ's.  Though i dont mind playing as the Asian Nations since you can atleast play the damn game a good while before Europe messes with you.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 04, 2013, 12:00:03 pm
The only thing thats sucks though, is that by the 1550's or maybe sooner, you will be getting attacked by westernization, and im sure either Spain or Portugal will be the likely aggressors to do it.  Good luck, you will need it, I wished they would make some of the fighting a little easier, i have a hard time thinking 2,000 Spaniards could kill 53,000 Aztec Warriors.  To me this just doesnt seem right when you see the final death toll is like 12 enemies and you were wiped out. 

Then comes the attempt at westernizing, stupid long, it took me as the Aztecs just short of 100 years(either incredibly bad luck, constant attacks from rebels and Europeans, or a flawed system) to do it, pretty much wasted the game for me, since i was trying to catch up with 14 tech in like 1750 by just finishing westernization....

So after that playthrough i vowed to not play any of the Native tribe like civ's.  Though i dont mind playing as the Asian Nations since you can atleast play the damn game a good while before Europe messes with you.
Noneuropean nations don't fall as hard behind in MEIOU as they do in EU4, the incompetent ruler tribal modifiers have also been removed. If I manage to break through Fez by 1450 I should be able to westernize, from EU3 MEIOU Fez usually united the Maghreb though and took most of Egypt and was far stronger than Spain until 1700.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 05, 2013, 01:04:11 am
Hmm, MEIOU? I'm lazy, perchance a link to the changes over vanilla that they do?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 05, 2013, 02:07:33 am
Hmm, MEIOU? I'm lazy, perchance a link to the changes over vanilla that they do?
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?707351-Mod-MEIOU-and-Taxes-Current-version-v1.08
Best mod for EU3 and 4
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Turboflex on November 05, 2013, 07:59:10 pm
Seems kind of ridiculous to have Morocco stronger than Spain. I know there's a lot of disgruntled paradox forum dwellers who think every country should be able to become an advanced superpower and pull off a world conquest but it's really silly.

Europe DID come out of the late middle ages with the best armies (only maybe Japan, Ottomans and the best Asian nomads came close at mid 15th century) & navies. Not only that but European countries did have the best government because they had setup structures that reduced the damage that incompetent god-kings who could ruin everything, which was the main problem of the rest of the world (even the most sophisticated places like China), which allowed them to quickly advance from there.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on November 08, 2013, 10:13:35 pm
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The Knights, Ironman mode, at the end of 1821. 
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Tore on November 14, 2013, 08:09:29 pm
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Tore on November 15, 2013, 07:33:55 pm
accidently doubleposted :(
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Tore on November 15, 2013, 07:35:03 pm
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portugal stronk :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Teeth on November 16, 2013, 12:18:42 pm
accidently doubleposted :(
So you proceed to triple post, noice.

Well I finally started on this game and I thought I'd do an easy country first to familiarize myself with all the new mechanics and I picked France. They are just friggin ridiculous. After 18 years I got into a nasty war fighting both Castille and Burgundy for the first time and I won it quite easily. My military quality was just beast compared to theirs. I played some more till I regained l'Hexagon but god they are a walk in the park. Overextension prevents you from expanding quickly though and the aggressive expansion relation penalties makes sure there are only like 5 factions that have a positive relation with me. Guess that is a lot better than EU 3. Every war consisted of fighting an enormous coalition, the biggest one was 15 European nations fighting against me alone.

Time to start on the challenging stuff, anyone got any tricky or interesting suggestions?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on November 16, 2013, 02:40:17 pm
Forging Italy as one of the small states is always fun. So much politic.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 16, 2013, 08:21:48 pm
Time to start on the challenging stuff, anyone got any tricky or interesting suggestions?
Navarra without going colonizing or doing something gamey like taking over an opm far away and expanding from there in peace. Both Castille, Aragon, and France wants you, at least one of them will try to diplovassalize you, the rest will want to conquer you, if you refuse any offers from the diplovassalizers they'll also want to conquer you, very challenging and diplomatic game.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Tore on November 16, 2013, 08:58:40 pm
So you proceed to triple post, noice.

Well I finally started on this game and I thought I'd do an easy country first to familiarize myself with all the new mechanics and I picked France. They are just friggin ridiculous. After 18 years I got into a nasty war fighting both Castille and Burgundy for the first time and I won it quite easily. My military quality was just beast compared to theirs. I played some more till I regained l'Hexagon but god they are a walk in the park. Overextension prevents you from expanding quickly though and the aggressive expansion relation penalties makes sure there are only like 5 factions that have a positive relation with me. Guess that is a lot better than EU 3. Every war consisted of fighting an enormous coalition, the biggest one was 15 European nations fighting against me alone.

Time to start on the challenging stuff, anyone got any tricky or interesting suggestions?

Play Albania, you start in a war with Ottomans so it should be hard :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Teeth on November 17, 2013, 01:47:04 pm
In 1444 A.D. the Portuguese king saw the devestation from all the European great power wars and stated 'I don't want to live on this continent anymore'. He started preparing for a full evacuation of Europe to live peacefully in the uncharted lands of Africa.

58 years after his majesty had this brilliant idea Africa looks like this, after balls to the wall colonization and conquest paying zero attention to Europe.
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Situation in Europe, remarkably unchanged since the starting date. Fuck all has happened, maybe Europe isn't such a bad place to live after all.
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Here's the country tab and my economy tab
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My reliance on gold mines is racking up quite the inflation, but it costs 75 administrative power to reduce it, which is quite negligble compared to all the power I spent coring everything. Gold is pretty much the only thing that really comes through from Africa. 3.26 from the tariffs of my 28 overseas provinces, compared to 9 continental provinces, which apparently includes Madeira and the Azores. I think moving my capital would definitely benefit my economy now, especially since I recently started accepting Mali culture. Tax base is surprisingly good in Africa, Timbuktu has 14, compared to 10 in Lisboa. I have moved my capital overseas before in EU III which required you to isolate your capital, which in Portugal case would only mean getting rid of one province. They changed it now to requiring your capital to be the only province on the continent, which means getting rid of 8 provinces including either the Azores or Madeira. Which I was planning eventually anyway, but it is fairly difficult to do while not ruining yourself. Not sure how to get started on that, prolly a war with Castille. 

It's not really challenging per say, but I felt like doing this. I'll post an update when I have departed Europe.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on November 17, 2013, 02:22:10 pm
If you want challange, go ironman Byzantium, The Knights, Albania (it's possible), Ragusa, some irish faction etc. Don't pick the nations that are very strong from the start :)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on November 17, 2013, 04:45:48 pm
play riga
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on November 17, 2013, 06:23:22 pm
play riga

Ok. Inc screenshots.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on November 17, 2013, 06:59:03 pm
visitors can't see pics , please register or login


I'm totally safe behind my super stronk allies :P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 18, 2013, 05:36:05 am
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I'm totally safe behind my super stronk allies :P
Frisia, nice.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Muunilinst on November 18, 2013, 03:40:22 pm
Hey, I made a Steamgroup some time ago to arrange multiplayer games with ts.
We allrdy have 18 members, and play a lot.

If you have teamspeak and  want to play some multiplayer games, join our Steamgroup : http://steamcommunity.com/groups/EUIVMultiplayer

We use the HRE ts. (thanks to HRE for letting us beggars inside their server)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 19, 2013, 02:29:03 am
Oh...
Joined, though NA, so my times will be off.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on November 19, 2013, 12:54:56 pm
Big bad Russian wanted a piece of me:

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I conquered Minsk, Kiev and Danzig. 3 of the strongest provinces around me :)

Oh and Austria already made 7/8 Imperial Reforms. HRE coming right up. Our alliance are hanging by a thread now that they are pissed at me for leaving the empire (yeah I joined it for protection against Poland, Lithuania and the Russki)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on November 19, 2013, 01:43:03 pm
bulgaria big and stronk
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Vovka on November 19, 2013, 01:52:25 pm
mother russia will crush u!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on November 19, 2013, 02:11:29 pm
mother russia will crush u!

So they did... Along with the Holy Roman Empire. Fighting 500k troops with mere 50k is hard :D

That was the end of Rigan Supremecy :(
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Vovka on November 19, 2013, 02:14:53 pm
best good way for riga is make vassals - finland, novgorod and ukrain and cede cores for them in next wars  :P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on November 19, 2013, 04:20:58 pm
Yeah, gonna try a new campaign. :)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on November 19, 2013, 04:31:22 pm
big game strarting tonight
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 19, 2013, 04:32:46 pm
Best way for every tiny country that has the potential to live past their first idea and isn't landlocked is attacking the native Americans.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Vovka on November 20, 2013, 12:25:40 pm
Best way for every tiny country that has the potential to live past their first idea and isn't landlocked is attacking the native Americans.
or recruit 5k army and wait big wars on boarders wait when they spend all manpower and then jump in war against loosing side and occupy as many provinces as u only can with only 1 man army... u will be leader in sieges and will get all provinces then take as many u can and make new vassal with core on dat land, in all next wars just cede cores for him 
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on December 04, 2013, 12:30:48 pm
I united the HRE with Austria and look what acheivement I got

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derp
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Vovka on December 04, 2013, 01:21:58 pm
I united the HRE with Austria and look what acheivement I got

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derp
moon speak!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 05, 2013, 01:00:53 am
I united the HRE with Austria and look what acheivement I got

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derp

That makes sense with you "uniting" the HRE, the HRE as a thing doesn't exist(no more electors, no independent small nations, etc). It's now just Austria and not HRE.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on December 05, 2013, 01:15:44 am
That makes sense with you "uniting" the HRE, the HRE as a thing doesn't exist(no more electors, no independent small nations, etc). It's now just Austria and not HRE.

I'm not sure you understand (maybe you did) because it wasn't very clear in my first post : I united the HRE through HRE reforms. I actually got both the "enact all HRE reforms" and the "dismantle the HRE" acheivements at the same time. While technically the game concepts known as HRE, electors and emperor don't exist anymore when you do it, in reality the HRE would not be "dismantled" if someone united all the HRE countries.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 05, 2013, 02:23:55 am
I'm not sure you understand (maybe you did) because it wasn't very clear in my first post : I united the HRE through HRE reforms. I actually got both the "enact all HRE reforms" and the "dismantle the HRE" acheivements at the same time. While technically the game concepts known as HRE, electors and emperor don't exist anymore when you do it, in reality the HRE would not be "dismantled" if someone united all the HRE countries.

No, i got that. But the HRE no longer exists as an entity once done through reforms, THUS the dismantling.

Sure it's not 100% accurate, but by definition, you did dismantle the HRE. Dismantling the HRE means the rest of it ceases to exist.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on December 15, 2013, 05:34:47 pm
Started playing the MEIOU and Taxes mod, adds a boat load more provinces and nations. Pretty cool.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on December 15, 2013, 05:51:32 pm
Started playing the MEIOU and Taxes mod, adds a boat load more provinces and nations. Pretty cool.
it is cool but loves to crash in MP and laggs like hell
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on December 15, 2013, 06:30:08 pm
it is cool but loves to crash in MP and laggs like hell

My and my friend de-sync about twice in a 3-4 hour long place session which isnt bad or unbearable. As for the lag we only got very brief stutter at the end of the month, almost unnoticeable unless you REALLY pay attention.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: BASNAK on January 03, 2014, 03:21:25 am
Been playing as Japan, reached year 1720 something. Was fun until Russia declared war on me and occupied my Siberian colonies. War lasted for about 20-25 years because the game was bugged or something. Russia didn't want peace because there was simply not enough to give. Offering 3300 gold, all the occupied provinces, and giving everything with a thumbs up was not enough, I mean what a can a man do, so many years of war + giving everything Russia it wants, and it cant invade my mainland? Trying to fight back in Siberia was a nogo, considering three of his ships could take down about 15 of mine and he had 100k soldiers there.

Seeing how useless my armies are in comparison to his after all the hard-work of building up Japan, I set up a colony close to a spanish one in Alaska and made it core to try and Westernize (tried earlier but couldn't find any whitelings to settle close to) so I could catch up with Russia in technology. Biggest mistake 2014. Not only did I have to go from +0 to +3 stability to just start it, it took me back to -3 stability, deleted all my admin, diplo and military points and it bloody wont start westernizing until I have +1 stability, and stability cost 320 per +1! Then I had to kill of about half Japan's population in rebellions. After a shitload of slaughtering my own people in Japan I reached the point of long boredom of rebellions and running out of manpower, I decided to say fuck this game and stopped playing as Japan.

Might try some other country or see if there's any mods to fix this shit.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on January 03, 2014, 08:03:46 am
ive always thought the westernization process in the game was harsh, very harsh.  Without cheating westernizing is nearly all based on luck, more often then not, it takes me around 25-100 years to westernize, and the game becomes an absolute shitfest.  Then you put a cherry on top of being attacked while you have thousands of rebels everywhere and you just quit the game and never bother again.

Im sure there are mods to make it easier, i just dont want it to be a cake walk, but on the same coin i dont want it to feel absolutely impossible.  Because nothing is better then Spain/Britain/France/Portugal, constantly crushing you over and over again stealing land until you westernize, then being years in tech behind everyone else, and the game ending 2 hours later.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on January 03, 2014, 08:25:28 am
play as western countries, problem solved
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: BASNAK on January 03, 2014, 02:11:20 pm
play as western countries, problem solved

Boring. Played as Leinster in Ireland. Had to restart about 7 times because England kept invading me each time, and I tried out new tactics each time too. Last time worked out really well, I managed to colonize parts of Canada and become strong enough to win defensive wars against England. Then I managed to take Meath and form Ireland. And then after some time England & Co. yet again declares war, and all my allies yet again for the millionth time decide to not assist me in my wars even though I assisted in every war they had and I lost the war and quit.

It feels like whenever I declare war on small countries every empire is always garantueing their independence and honoring their alliances, but when I play as small countries I have to beg, let my inbred royal kids marry other inbred kids to make more inbred kids, +200 relation, assisting them in their shitty wars, and then when it comes to me being attacked there is no help to be found.

I just can't stand playing as these big countries like England, France and Austria. Just too boring.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on January 03, 2014, 03:42:06 pm
Boring. Played as Leinster in Ireland. Had to restart about 7 times because England kept invading me each time, and I tried out new tactics each time too. Last time worked out really well, I managed to colonize parts of Canada and become strong enough to win defensive wars against England. Then I managed to take Meath and form Ireland. And then after some time England & Co. yet again declares war, and all my allies yet again for the millionth time decide to not assist me in my wars even though I assisted in every war they had and I lost the war and quit.

It feels like whenever I declare war on small countries every empire is always garantueing their independence and honoring their alliances, but when I play as small countries I have to beg, let my inbred royal kids marry other inbred kids to make more inbred kids, +200 relation, assisting them in their shitty wars, and then when it comes to me being attacked there is no help to be found.

I just can't stand playing as these big countries like England, France and Austria. Just too boring.
than play something that is not complete shit like lenister, take brandenburg or pomerania, dont tell thats big country, oh and get MEIOU you scrub.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Andswaru on January 07, 2014, 09:10:28 am
play as western countries, problem solved

OR save a shitton of cash as another nation and westerniseation becomes a breeze. Its only  a problem if you cant afford your armies. Hire the right advisor and it is relativly easy.


Omen world leader 2013. Japan VP.
Hindustan for world leader 2014. Elephant people(those near vietnam cant remember the name) VP!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on January 14, 2014, 01:55:51 am
Whos getting the expansion? *Raises Hand*
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 14, 2014, 02:48:08 am
I'll wait till a sale cause I'm cheap.

I might splurg though, cause I love EU4 and CK2(multiplayer is the best, and I can't play SP now cause of it  :|).
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on January 20, 2014, 06:54:38 am
My Multiplayer game with my friend

Me = Brandenburg into Germany
Friend = Denmark into Scandinavia

Just had an epic war against France to gain the provinces needed from Bavaria so I could form Germany, my whole navy was wiped for the most part.

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on January 20, 2014, 10:30:06 am
Denmark T_T
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 21, 2014, 12:17:26 am
With the new expansion, me and Salfallen started playing a game as the Choctaw and Chickasaw.

We have since westernized, become protestant, and basically wiped out all but spains colonies in Texas. Gotta get a screen cap to show, but I don't own the expansion.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on January 21, 2014, 12:27:58 pm
HRE glory

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Somehow not hated by France or Portugal/Castille.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 21, 2014, 10:34:52 pm
Hm? How did you create the HRE? Is it an event or just the gradual evolution of the HRE Imperial Reforms?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: MeatBunny on January 21, 2014, 10:57:34 pm
Not as good as crusader kings II, but still good.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on January 21, 2014, 10:59:17 pm
Hm? How did you create the HRE? Is it an event or just the gradual evolution of the HRE Imperial Reforms?

The last Imperial reform.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on January 23, 2014, 04:15:39 pm
Not as good as crusader kings II, but still good.

wat.....lol

Being introduced first to EU4, then CK2, CK2 is simply a nightmare to figure out what the hell is going on.  The battles are weird and annoying, the interface isnt friendly, and the filters are unclear, i dont know which territory is mine half the time, or what the hell is going on.  EU4 fixed the atrocious interface and made it easier to read, a warm welcome.  Not to mention, you cant play half the game without first purchasing a dlc, which totals in around like 100 dollars, a hundred fucking dollars, thats insane.....I'd much rather play EU4 then CK2, atleast when i bought it, i knew i could play every country i clicked on.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on January 23, 2014, 07:31:16 pm
wat.....lol

Being introduced first to EU4, then CK2, CK2 is simply a nightmare to figure out what the hell is going on.  The battles are weird and annoying, the interface isnt friendly, and the filters are unclear, i dont know which territory is mine half the time, or what the hell is going on.  EU4 fixed the atrocious interface and made it easier to read, a warm welcome.  Not to mention, you cant play half the game without first purchasing a dlc, which totals in around like 100 dollars, a hundred fucking dollars, thats insane.....I'd much rather play EU4 then CK2, atleast when i bought it, i knew i could play every country i clicked on.

Smoked, next.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Grumbs on January 24, 2014, 05:21:41 am
Paradox have announced some new stuff:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2090821/paradox-interactive-announces-a-slew-of-new-strategy-games-and-expansions.html

Hearts of Iron IV (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1bvX2-XrAQ)
CK2 and EU4 expansions
New open world turn based RPG inspired by Norse mythology
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on January 24, 2014, 05:23:45 am
I'd much rather they continued to develop the existing game rather than simply expanding the map. I'm honestly not interested in Medieval India.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: [ptx] on January 24, 2014, 05:26:55 am
HoI 4, aw yeah!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Andswaru on January 24, 2014, 09:33:32 am
Getting ready to "waste" even more of my life doing some more HoI4 grinding.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Voncrow on January 28, 2014, 11:18:25 pm
Paradox have announced some new stuff:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2090821/paradox-interactive-announces-a-slew-of-new-strategy-games-and-expansions.html

Hearts of Iron IV (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1bvX2-XrAQ)
CK2 and EU4 expansions
New open world turn based RPG inspired by Norse mythology

All of that sounds great, I'm especially curious what one of their rpgs will be like.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Artyem on January 28, 2014, 11:58:23 pm
Jesus Christ, HoI4 AND East Vs. West?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on February 19, 2014, 06:29:38 pm
Bumping this to see if anyone wants to set up an MP game. Preferably with just a few players so we can keep it going regularly.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on February 19, 2014, 06:37:26 pm
Bumping this to see if anyone wants to set up an MP game. Preferably with just a few players so we can keep it going regularly.
i think we still have steam group for this
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on February 20, 2014, 01:11:34 am
Figured I'd make a post about my recent games that are still on-going. All of these are multiplayer games with a friend so the country that is after the "/" is the country my friend is playing.

Aragon/Scotland

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Germany/Scandanavia

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Italy/Mamluks

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Hansa, soon to be Hannover/Tuscany

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Butan on February 20, 2014, 02:17:43 am
For anyone who doesnt use this, do ! : http://wiki.meiouandtaxes.com/Download   :P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on February 20, 2014, 04:04:57 pm
For anyone who doesnt use this, do ! : http://wiki.meiouandtaxes.com/Download   :P
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only way i could take screenshot since meiou is not working with recent eu 4 update :(

expanding as lithuania is easy but i expect some trouble when i march towards europeans.
P.S. muscowy is my vassal and i plan to expand it.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Butan on February 20, 2014, 05:28:04 pm
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only way i could take screenshot since meiou is not working with recent eu 4 update :(

expanding as lithuania is easy but i expect some trouble when i march towards europeans.
P.S. muscowy is my vassal and i plan to expand it.

Its fun because I'm probably going to play as teutonic order (or even livonian order) in my next playthrough  :D

Made me read some stuff on Lithuania too, felt like together with Japan they had quite the warring history!


Does Estonia/Latvia was a part of Lithuania in the past?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on February 20, 2014, 05:36:14 pm
Its fun because I'm probably going to play as teutonic order (or even livonian order) in my next playthrough  :D

Made me read some stuff on Lithuania too, felt like together with Japan they had quite the warring history!


Does Estonia/Latvia was a part of Lithuania in the past?
nope, they did attack us while sweden was here.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Grumbs on February 20, 2014, 05:58:04 pm
I highly recommend people play Ironman mode btw. Its much better when you know every decision is final. If you make a mistake or have a bad war you can't even be tempted to reload because you can't

A corrupt save isn't really an issue because the game still keeps a backup, just means messing around to restore it.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on February 20, 2014, 06:06:59 pm
i have never reloaded any of my games, why would i use ironman which is only pissing me off with its autosaves?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Grumbs on February 20, 2014, 06:21:50 pm
You've never been tempted? Never quitted after something didn't go your way?

I know I have
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Butan on February 20, 2014, 06:25:42 pm
I only play multiplayer now so the players are whats keeping me from reloading  :P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on February 20, 2014, 06:33:49 pm
You've never been tempted? Never quitted after something didn't go your way?

I know I have
nothing ever goes wrong for me cuz i plan everything 200 years ahead.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on February 24, 2014, 09:50:18 am
Now that this is out for a longer time, which one do you prefer?

EUIII or IV? Is IV a better improvement?

I don't really have cash to buy EU IV, only got III Divine wind atm, and I really fancy some exotic playthrough.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on February 24, 2014, 02:01:27 pm
Now that this is out for a longer time, which one do you prefer?

EUIII or IV? Is IV a better improvement?

I don't really have cash to buy EU IV, only got III Divine wind atm, and I really fancy some exotic playthrough.
EU4 is by far better especialy with MEIOU mod . if you cant buy it than pirate it right now.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Butan on February 24, 2014, 02:09:21 pm
I find EU4 to be the CK2 version of EU3, not only engine-wise  but also on the interface-level, and europa universalis is a game of information panels  :P  so it is possible you dont like the changes.


Some changes on the top of my head :

- missions, national ideas, core system, ruler bonuses revisited
- badboy changed for aggressive expansion
- provincial decisions and population factor removed
- taxes-trade-production simplified
- diplomacy overhauled (for me its the best diplomacy system ever now, you should check it)
- more map filters
- over documented ledger (a bit too much... you can disable it entirely in your mp games)
- some changes taken from various competent mods
- ofc graphism


And like Latvian said the MEIOU & taxes mod makes it even cooler.

(MEIOU & taxes = MEIOU + death & taxes, the two "best" mods of EU3 for me)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Segd on February 24, 2014, 02:15:24 pm
Does the game still have this retarded vassal feature when all their armies just follow yours doing nothing except attrition? EU4 before patches was so nice to play as Steppe horde. Then they cut horde's balls & invented retarded vassals :(

One of my best mp games:
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Butan on February 24, 2014, 02:20:00 pm
Would need a better player than me to check that  :D  I have just been trying to re-host a session lately and play-tested a few hours only.

What I saw was that there was a nice functionality of "follow me!" box request, where you can ask the AI to attach to your army (it is enabled by default). I've been told it works only if you're the leader of the actual war and the country army likes you enough (maybe army size is important too).

I'm not sure but it may mean that you can disable this box and noone will ever follow you.



And you dont need vassals with Steppe Horde, just auto-war neighbour and occupy a province and see it change ownership in between 3 to 24 months  :P  Once had a lovely Sibir playthrough where I went from 3 poor as shit shamanist provinces to full fledged Russia Steppe. Then got crushed by occidental russia because of technology difference :P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Segd on February 24, 2014, 02:27:30 pm
It was necessary to use vassals to expand in mp just to survive :) As timurid(screen above) I had up to 7 vassals at once(ate them all at the end of the party :) ). Btw, played whole party as a westernized horde xD Mugals sucked too much.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Butan on February 24, 2014, 03:16:30 pm
One of my best mp games:
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Was there any AI-controlled nations left?  :shock:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on February 24, 2014, 03:41:19 pm
Does the game still have this retarded vassal feature when all their armies just follow yours doing nothing except attrition? EU4 before patches was so nice to play as Steppe horde. Then they cut horde's balls & invented retarded vassals :(

One of my best mp games:
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who is controling that grey (UK) faction and what country is that?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Segd on February 24, 2014, 04:48:25 pm
Was there any AI-controlled nations left?  :shock:
who is controling that grey (UK) faction and what country is that?
AI I think. Brittain was played by some unlucky guy who somehow destroyed her economics. Grey areas are the only thing that left from AI. & we still had about 100 years left :) The game ended as usual via world war:china, morocco, austria & ottomans  vs the rest. Ottoman GTXed after I divided his country by taking 1/3 of his lands. Nobody wanted to play afterwards. Although China almost raped me with their 1kk army :)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zanze on February 24, 2014, 05:17:11 pm
Best part of EU4 is the control over everything. Waiting for a chance of something popping is long gone. Go go republics(even if they are pretty much subpar.)

If you guys do want a fun game, something my friends and I use to spice it up after we've gotten the hang of the game is editing everyone's tech to western. This is after we can play as say... Saxony and take out Bohemia without breaking a sweat on the harder difficulties. We do have our own personal mod, so there are other changes in effect. But its an easy change that can be done on a save file I think and makes the game a lot more interesting. Western Ming in EU3 was scary as shit if we got there after they outgrew the factions. Western hordes had navies and were interesting. Inca's were scary as heck with all that gold. Same for Mutapa. India was a nightmare...

With everyone on equal grounds, no game is the same. Morocco invaded Spain and did well till France got involved. Mamlukes bordered the HRE in Italy. Golden Horde into Scandistan. (All EU3, wonder how well it goes in eu4...) So, cheers.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on February 24, 2014, 05:30:03 pm
how can you make everyone western?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on February 25, 2014, 01:59:13 am
Does the game still have this retarded vassal feature when all their armies just follow yours doing nothing except attrition? EU4 before patches was so nice to play as Steppe horde. Then they cut horde's balls & invented retarded vassals :(

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Nah they fixed that. How it works now is is the supply limit is 30k and you have the box that is checked which ALLOWS your vassals to attach to you they will do so UP TO the supply limit.

Example - I have 25k troops, vassal as 5k. He attaches to me on a 30k province. I make 1k troops and combine them with my 25k stack - 5k vassal moves elsewhere since his troops no longer fit there.

Usually though I like to have my vassals just run rampant and capture/be distractions for me lol.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Segd on February 25, 2014, 08:46:19 am
But can I order them to randomly wonder on the enemy territory(fighting, chasing, running, besieging) like they did before patches? No matter what is my supply limit? Was really nice to see how they spread across all enemy provinces :)

If you guys do want a fun game, something my friends and I use to spice it up after we've gotten the hang of the game is editing everyone's tech to western.
Conquering Europe as bunch of redskins like Inca or Huron should be fun in MP :) I took over the world as Chimu, Huron, Kongo & my favorite Songhai with selfmade mods but only in singleplayer :(

Songhai domination:
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All western, no overextension, no wasteland(all colonizable), lucky nations with bad-ass bonuses etc.
Time limit was set to 9999, but I never had guts to play past 1700 :) At this party I was constantly(every 5 or 10 years) raped by Livonians till I quit.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Butan on February 25, 2014, 01:40:05 pm
But can I order them to randomly wonder on the enemy territory(fighting, chasing, running, besieging) like they did before patches? No matter what is my supply limit? Was really nice to see how they spread across all enemy provinces :)

Yea vassals are still quite "good" at choosing objectives, but afaik you cant order them anything (I missed such a functionality?).
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on February 25, 2014, 01:49:06 pm
EU3 was full of design flaws. EU4 fixes most of them and introduces new mechanics that are simply awesome.

However, some things still need fixing. For example, the cardinals "ketje spel" for lack of a good english word to describe it, is a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zanze on February 25, 2014, 02:33:49 pm
Automating cardinals would be nice... (Choose a cardinal, dump all pts on him constantly)

Also, holy livonian order!

To make all western techs, edit the save file. Start up a game as someone, save and quit before unpausing or doing anything. Edit the save file and you are good to go. Eu3 method, I'm sure it will work in EU4 though. Paradox save files are usually easy to edit.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on February 25, 2014, 06:32:02 pm
Anyone else feel the Aggresive Expansion has gotten outta control once again with this patch?

Before in Vanilla it was a little harsh but manageable, then they nerfed the fuck outta it so it NEVER happened (coalitions), but now it seems almost broken where you take 2-3 provinces and then gotta wait 40 years to the AE to wear off. It's kind of ridiculous with the current 1.5 patch.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on February 26, 2014, 03:10:41 am
I havent played in about a month or so, but the last time i tried it the AE stuff seemed better, as not everyone in the world cared about what someone was doing around the world gobblin up some small fry.  Like really why the fuck does France care, what Serbia is doing to Croatia?????  now it only seems to affect the people directly surrounding the provinces.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on February 26, 2014, 03:57:22 am
I havent played in about a month or so, but the last time i tried it the AE stuff seemed better, as not everyone in the world cared about what someone was doing around the world gobblin up some small fry.  Like really why the fuck does France care, what Serbia is doing to Croatia?????  now it only seems to affect the people directly surrounding the provinces.

Yah, it's no longer like that but how it was more so towards Vanilla but in my opinion worse.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on March 31, 2014, 09:53:23 pm
latest game, had taken me 10 tries total to achieve this.  I always set ground rules for when i play, most of which are, never change religions, dont be a big pussy and conquer opm's to stay alive, always stick around, try and have some historical relevance, i.e like playing the knights and taking Mecca.

Granada Iberian Conquest achievement attempt 
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this was a bit older of a game,
The Knights road to Jerusalem, was my attempt at taking the Knights and crushing the Ottomans, and taking both Mecca and Judea.
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my next playthroughs will be Frisia, Wallachia, Takeda, and Hedjaz.  If there are any that someone would suggest, i will give it a go and post it.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on March 31, 2014, 10:09:17 pm
latest game, had taken me 10 tries total to achieve this.  I always set ground rules for when i play, most of which are, never change religions, dont be a big pussy and conquer opm's to stay alive, always stick around, try and have some historical relevance, i.e like playing the knights and taking Mecca.

Granada Iberian Conquest achievement attempt 
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this was a bit older of a game,
The Knights road to Jerusalem, was my attempt at taking the Knights and crushing the Ottomans, and taking both Mecca and Judea.
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my next playthroughs will be Frisia, Wallachia, Takeda, and Hedjaz.  If there are any that someone would suggest, i will give it a go and post it.
you should try out MEIOU mod
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: korppis on April 01, 2014, 09:31:30 am
Has anyone tried & succeeded getting independent as Norway in EU IV?

I've tried like 10 times, and it just seems impossible to do alone. Even if Sweden manages to gain independence, Denmark can still wipe floor with Norway... all the generals and admirals I hire are worst kind of shit (with 1/1/1/0 type of skills), which means even 2 vs 1 I lose pretty much all battles. Not to mention that the game seems scripted to throw in negative events one after another, like you're meant to be locked at -2 stability and -10+ prestige, with half of your provinces suffering from influenza or plague. And I've lucky nations turned off btw so it shouldn't be the problem.  :(
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on April 01, 2014, 03:17:24 pm
Has anyone tried & succeeded getting independent as Norway in EU IV?

I've tried like 10 times, and it just seems impossible to do alone. Even if Sweden manages to gain independence, Denmark can still wipe floor with Norway... all the generals and admirals I hire are worst kind of shit (with 1/1/1/0 type of skills), which means even 2 vs 1 I lose pretty much all battles. Not to mention that the game seems scripted to throw in negative events one after another, like you're meant to be locked at -2 stability and -10+ prestige, with half of your provinces suffering from influenza or plague. And I've lucky nations turned off btw so it shouldn't be the problem.  :(

lol, i will give it a go, and then post it for you. 
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Butan on April 01, 2014, 05:51:42 pm
Has anyone tried & succeeded getting independent as Norway in EU IV?

I've tried like 10 times, and it just seems impossible to do alone. Even if Sweden manages to gain independence, Denmark can still wipe floor with Norway... all the generals and admirals I hire are worst kind of shit (with 1/1/1/0 type of skills), which means even 2 vs 1 I lose pretty much all battles. Not to mention that the game seems scripted to throw in negative events one after another, like you're meant to be locked at -2 stability and -10+ prestige, with half of your provinces suffering from influenza or plague. And I've lucky nations turned off btw so it shouldn't be the problem.  :(

Make use of your mountainous far travel provinces and you're basically impregnable, or impossible to catch (depends if you choose to fight it or flee).

Even if both Denmark and Sweden hates you - you have no allies - your military suck, you can make your enemies pay for every step they make into your country with high defense provs + scorched earth. Just like Russia, but the difference is you have less manoeuver since your country is basically pushed against the sea.

Then, if you manage to have only Denmark or Sweden as enemy, and the other neutral/ally, and can make alliance with rivals of your nemesis, you should be good to go, even if you have bad events/stability.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on April 01, 2014, 06:18:30 pm
Make use of your mountainous far travel provinces and you're basically impregnable, or impossible to catch (depends if you choose to fight it or flee).

Even if both Denmark and Sweden hates you - you have no allies - your military suck, you can make your enemies pay for every step they make into your country with high defense provs + scorched earth. Just like Russia, but the difference is you have less manoeuver since your country is basically pushed against the sea.

Then, if you manage to have only Denmark or Sweden as enemy, and the other neutral/ally, and can make alliance with rivals of your nemesis, you should be good to go, even if you have bad events/stability.

well talking about it, and then actually performing it are two different actions.....
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Butan on April 01, 2014, 06:59:28 pm
True, depending on your dice/events it could range from hard/very hard situations (even taking into accounts AI flaws).

Also I only use MEIOU & taxes or Veritas mod, for quite some time now, so my summary could be different if you play vanilla.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on April 01, 2014, 07:16:56 pm
An attempt at the Kongo Africa conquest achievement:

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It's going quite well actually. I got the event to become Catholic early on and I just finished westernising. Only lost one war (three provinces) to a western power. Right now I'm at war with Kanem and Mali but Spain is involved in the war on my side which is actually good right now as I just finished the war with Great Britain and my army is in shambles. Otherwise I would have been able to take on both of them with my superior tech.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: korppis on April 01, 2014, 07:35:29 pm
Make use of your mountainous far travel provinces and you're basically impregnable, or impossible to catch (depends if you choose to fight it or flee).

Even if both Denmark and Sweden hates you - you have no allies - your military suck, you can make your enemies pay for every step they make into your country with high defense provs + scorched earth. Just like Russia, but the difference is you have less manoeuver since your country is basically pushed against the sea.

Hmm scorched earth might help, thanks for the tip!

Then, if you manage to have only Denmark or Sweden as enemy, and the other neutral/ally, and can make alliance with rivals of your nemesis, you should be good to go, even if you have bad events/stability.

Not really. While I'm in personal union with Denmark, I can't form coalition or make any alliances (hardly any diplomatic options available really), and once I declare war noone wants to be the first to join in. Not even if I max out relations with their rivals. That war is gonna be really lonely.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on April 01, 2014, 07:52:23 pm
Hmm scorched earth might help, thanks for the tip!

Not really. While I'm in personal union with Denmark, I can't form coalition or make any alliances (hardly any diplomatic options available really), and once I declare war noone wants to be the first to join in. Not even if I max out relations with their rivals. That war is gonna be really lonely.
wait untill denmark gets raped by some other faction  and than screw them over
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Tore on April 01, 2014, 08:11:48 pm
Has anyone tried & succeeded getting independent as Norway in EU IV?

I've tried like 10 times, and it just seems impossible to do alone. Even if Sweden manages to gain independence, Denmark can still wipe floor with Norway... all the generals and admirals I hire are worst kind of shit (with 1/1/1/0 type of skills), which means even 2 vs 1 I lose pretty much all battles. Not to mention that the game seems scripted to throw in negative events one after another, like you're meant to be locked at -2 stability and -10+ prestige, with half of your provinces suffering from influenza or plague. And I've lucky nations turned off btw so it shouldn't be the problem.  :(

I'm bad at EU4 so I just waited until 1650 then Denmark lost the PU because of shitty prestige  :twisted:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on April 01, 2014, 08:39:28 pm
An attempt at the Kongo Africa conquest achievement:

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It's going quite well actually. I got the event to become Catholic early on and I just finished westernising. Only lost one war (three provinces) to a western power. Right now I'm at war with Kanem and Mali but Spain is involved in the war on my side which is actually good right now as I just finished the war with Great Britain and my army is in shambles. Otherwise I would have been able to take on both of them with my superior tech.

thats goin to be a tough one, unfortunately, i think a lot of achievements arent possible anymore with the newest patches that keep coming out.  Where as at one time you could attack countries like Mali, and Songhai, they might now be protectorates, which are just frustrating and annoying.

One of the ones that seem damn impossible is making Norway own every sailing equipment province,  How in the hell are you supposed to do that anymore. 
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on April 02, 2014, 06:31:26 pm
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on October 10, 2014, 06:34:55 pm
Looking good

Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 10, 2014, 09:23:49 pm
Looking good

the entire dlc will be a warm welcome to the series, one that i shouldnt have to throw my money at because it should have been that way from the beginning, but one that i will anyways.

So many improvements, i cant wait.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Butan on October 10, 2014, 09:55:54 pm
Quick sum up of the DLC gameplay features from a veteran point of view?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on October 10, 2014, 10:11:33 pm
The feature that im looking forward to the most is creathing costume client states and marches. Marches are border vassals that will have increased military bonuses. Coupled with the fact that you will be able to set allied objectives and control there armies more means that you will have actual useful vassals now and not just diplo annexation fodder.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on October 10, 2014, 10:33:30 pm
I suppose marches will not be counted towards the diplomatic relations limit otherwise there's no point.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 10, 2014, 11:32:32 pm
Quick sum up of the DLC gameplay features from a veteran point of view?

better rebels, local autonomy, telling the retarded AI allies what to do and what not to do.  Nothing will get you killed more often then an ally who refuses to move from his country and watches you crumble  into dust, or when they charge in all crazy and die in some obscene manner only to let you get mopped up later on. 

30 years war mechanics look better as well, since the current mechanics are rather lacking, or could be construed as so bad that at times, it literally does nothing for the world at all, as if the event never occurred.  Ive had games where nobody turned protestant at all.

Improvements to the map are a nice change as well, most of the Asian and Indian land was just stamped in place, but never really fleshed out to be anything nice, or they all together just forgot about them.  Adding something like 300 new provinces to India and Asia will help diversify the area.

I would personally like to see better more rebellious mechanics associated to the colonies, since as of now, they are the most passive bunch of pussies you could add to your sphere of influence, they wont even make transports to ferry troops off the Caribbean islands, they just watch them burn while sitting on a single island. 

The other nice point is the boats, since you can now upgrade your boats, they arent a huge waste of money once  the next line comes out, for as of now, you have to delete them, lose the money you spent, typically 50g a pop, then create a whole new unit for 50g........a huge money and time sink since they take a year to build.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Oberyn on October 10, 2014, 11:36:35 pm
The boat thing was actually realistic though. Navies were ridiculously expensive and even after copper plating bottoms the hull would eventually warp and get eaten away, and the entire ship had to be decomissioned after a while. And boats were never a waste of money, but it might have changed since I last played EU4...trading fleets were great for making cash, especially with a colonial empire and strategically placed merchants orienting the flow, and military ships counted towards the total score, except for galleys. Galleys were better than military depending on location (inland sea's Mediterranean, Baltic, coast between Japan/China, etc) and if you had a large naval limit they made for cheap canon fodder.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Butan on October 10, 2014, 11:59:48 pm
telling the retarded AI allies what to do and what not to do.

Hope its not too OP, either way it sounds like a very large gameplay improvement.
Thx for feedback.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on October 11, 2014, 02:24:50 am
I actually don't think giving the ability to upgrade ships is a good idea. It was both realistic and interesting to make fleets very costly to maintain at top technology. With the old system, a powerful navy was only a temporary advantage.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 11, 2014, 02:37:49 am
The boat thing was actually realistic though. Navies were ridiculously expensive and even after copper plating bottoms the hull would eventually warp and get eaten away, and the entire ship had to be decomissioned after a while. And boats were never a waste of money, but it might have changed since I last played EU4...trading fleets were great for making cash, especially with a colonial empire and strategically placed merchants orienting the flow, and military ships counted towards the total score, except for galleys. Galleys were better than military depending on location (inland sea's Mediterranean, Baltic, coast between Japan/China, etc) and if you had a large naval limit they made for cheap canon fodder.

no you are right, its not that they are a waste of money, its just that they are such a huge sink of cash, that at times, its not worth it, unless your nation specifically needs them for some means or another, they are somewhat worthless(British defense, or trade ships for trading power).  If you decide to purchase your fleet limit worth of heavy ships, like the early carrack, they are utter shit in 20 years time when the carrack comes along, and then in another 20 years if your still sailing about in carracks you are again the same boat, pun intended.  Decommissioning 50 heavy ships at 50g each is expensive, then repurchasing them again, count along the maintenance each month on these and you realize how much money is sank into something that doesnt really strike too big of a game changing mechanic in the game.

Initial purchase fee:
50gold x 50ships=2,500gold

Maintenance cost:
1.50maintenance fee x 50ships=75g x 12months=900yearly gold

lot of money falling out of your pocket.  With the new mechanic in place, you will be able to re-outfit them, which i think will be a welcome change to just scraping them all, unless its the same cost, and then ill cry.  Though the time without the ships i guess will be nice.

Could you honestly picture what or where these boats all go to die lol, like a huge boat graveyard of galleons and war ships heaped up from all the countries scraping their navies every 20 years for something else.

They spoke of new mechanics for the ships, so im ready to see what theyve done to them, and how it all will change, since as of now, im still on the bandwagon of heavy ships being worthless unless you are a country that needs them.  They just dont seem to be worth the cost, and idk how in the hell the tariff shit works with the heavy ships and ive played 400 hours of eu4 lol.  Do they need to be on patrol? or just in your fleet.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on October 11, 2014, 02:47:40 am
Tbh trade boats at least are always worth it.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 11, 2014, 02:50:55 am
Tbh trade boats at least are always worth it.

yep, they are worth the coin, and galley's while they used to be shit, are absolutely amazing now, id go as far as to say theyre the best ships you can buy.  If you watch the DDRjake Ryukyu challenge where he takes over the world, he exclusively uses galleys, as they are the most cost effective ship while also having tremendous power against all other ships while inland.  Anytime he captured heavy or light ships, he would just delete them all, and build more galleys.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: FleetFox on October 11, 2014, 10:05:36 am
Hi guys, do you know if there is an option to turn down the graphics settings? My laptop gets really hot when I play this and CK2. Any suggestions? And no, buying a new comp is not an option hah
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on October 11, 2014, 10:44:30 am
Hi guys, do you know if there is an option to turn down the graphics settings? My laptop gets really hot when I play this and CK2. Any suggestions? And no, buying a new comp is not an option hah
try to buy a new comp
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on October 11, 2014, 11:29:13 am
Hi guys, do you know if there is an option to turn down the graphics settings? My laptop gets really hot when I play this and CK2. Any suggestions? And no, buying a new comp is not an option hah

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?632385-Graphical-downgrade
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 16, 2014, 03:10:59 pm

for people who like to be spoon fed rather then read 30 pages of dev diaries or hours of vlogs.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on October 16, 2014, 06:40:54 pm
The economy, fools!

lmao
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on October 16, 2014, 06:59:56 pm
Failed my first game today... Cherokee ironman, went bankrupt for the 1st time and lost 2000 monarch points in every cathegory. Rage quit  :oops:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 16, 2014, 07:06:50 pm
Failed my first game today... Cherokee ironman, went bankrupt for the 1st time and lost 2000 monarch points in every cathegory. Rage quit  :oops:
wow lol, how in the fuck did u do that lol?  are you tryin for the achievement? 
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on October 16, 2014, 07:11:10 pm
Yes, started going for the achiv. Havent really played ironman at all, played VeF mostly. Never went bankrupt so didnt know you loose all your monarch points, oh well.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 16, 2014, 07:50:45 pm
Yes, started going for the achiv. Havent really played ironman at all, played VeF mostly. Never went bankrupt so didnt know you loose all your monarch points, oh well.

goin bankrupt will crush you, better off to restart then continue going after a bankruptcy. 
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on October 20, 2014, 07:42:53 pm
Try the Irish achievement. It's difficult, but not impossibly so, making it quite an enjoyable game.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 21, 2014, 12:01:38 am
Try the Irish achievement. It's difficult, but not impossibly so, making it quite an enjoyable game.

I am doing it now, ill post a pic when im done.  I havent done all the achievements yet, but im working my way to it.  So far, the Irish achievement, though troubling around 1500 has become a cake walk.  Constant wars have crushed the english, i only have to swoop up London, Norfolk, and a few other provinces to mop up the rest of them.

Next will be either Basileus, Carthage, or maybe Granada, though im not looking forward to it, since im on attempt like 50 of Granada.

EDIT: progress so far on the Irish Achievement

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on October 21, 2014, 08:17:30 am
Well do you want to do it the "proper" way, if not just escape to the americas and get them later. Also did most of this stuff in VeF so i CBA to do it in vanilla, just doing some of the more obscure achiv. Atm tho playing the Khmer empire in VeF
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on October 21, 2014, 09:04:45 am
Really looking forward to this next DLC as it feels a lot more like an expansion which is great.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 22, 2014, 10:35:15 pm
Failed my first game today... Cherokee ironman, went bankrupt for the 1st time and lost 2000 monarch points in every cathegory. Rage quit  :oops:

for you! i even went bankrupt, failed a westernization attempt at 95% and fended off my territories when it looked grim!

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on October 22, 2014, 11:13:27 pm
Patience goes a long way  :D

too bad i have none  :oops:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 22, 2014, 11:25:27 pm
Patience goes a long way  :D

too bad i have none  :oops:

i almost quit when i went bankrupt and failed the westernization.  It all happened at once, and i wasnt prepared for it by any means. 

The failure came from westernizing, it introduced catholicism and changed my state religion, yet, all my provinces were still Totemist.  The constant rebels popping up depleted more then 1500g as i ran about for like 25 years trying to squash it, eventually racking up such a huge debt that even when i got rid of all my troops, i was being crushed by interest, eventually bankrupting me 5 years before the westernization was over.  I persisted with the game, though rebels controlled nearly half of my country, up until the last like 2 years, when fucking religious rebels broke my country, enforcing every demand of all the rebels including the halting of the westernization, which is just fucking retarded.  Westernizing is still the shittiest and weakest part of the eu4 game.  Unfortunately, i dont believe ill ever catch up to the western powers, as im tech 13, and they are 20.  So the struggle still continues, i have to take 3 provinces to get the achievement.   
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on October 23, 2014, 09:59:53 am
I think one of the easiest ways to learn westernization is to play Congo. They get special events which allow you to switch to catholicism very early on and basically for free. The achievement on the other hand, is quite hard.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on October 23, 2014, 01:00:17 pm
Damnit im crashing im my Khmer empire game. 1st time i had any problems with VeF. And i just beat china and fed my vassal Zhou too  :cry:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on October 23, 2014, 06:01:30 pm
less talking more screenshots
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 23, 2014, 07:32:10 pm
less talking more screenshots

k


achievement complete, no trail of tears.
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After my last post, i was brought into a war with england by scotland, i went through a civil war, triumphed, then declared war on England and took the necessary land for the achievement.  Next up will probably be Byz, or Tunisia, not sure yet.

as soon as i defeated the 30k english troops they landed on the shore, i felt like France, i dont think there is any way i can be defeated now lol, as long as i stop them from landing more then 50k troops ill just zerg em at every point.  Ive also just about caught up in tech, im only 2 techs behind them, and then i can finally start putting points into my ideas, which are just sitting there empty.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Taser on October 23, 2014, 07:44:43 pm
How long did you have to wait to finally start taking the "colonies" around you? I'm trying that out myself and my god the slow buildup of points is killing me. Plus I'm kind of locked into an alliance that might not back me up when I try to kill off Creek. I'm only about 50 years in though. I have yet to get to admin lvl 2 but I am lvl 3 military and lvl 2 diplomacy.

It seems like such a bore so far.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 23, 2014, 08:01:12 pm
How long did you have to wait to finally start taking the "colonies" around you? I'm trying that out myself and my god the slow buildup of points is killing me. Plus I'm kind of locked into an alliance that might not back me up when I try to kill off Creek. I'm only about 50 years in though. I have yet to get to admin lvl 2 but I am lvl 3 military and lvl 2 diplomacy.

It seems like such a bore so far.

if you play with the dlc, there is an Indian tech tree as well as indian buildings.  These all with the federation mechanics help expansion tremendously.  Once you reach 200 tech points, you can immediately get a colonist, unlike before where you needed like 3k points to get to tech 4 in admin alone.  I actually like the new mechanics in place, and honestly didnt even know they were there.  After that and the reformation of my govt. i took exploration ideas, and then expansion as my next upgrades, with 3 colonies going it only costs you 6g per month, easily attainable, so i expanded to take the coast as best as i could, and then tried to cockblock the spanish colonies. 

You should be able to do a good job of colonizing with the native tech up until you get the points for exploration and expansion.  By the time you do get these ideas, you should have for the most part, taken the entirety of the coast. 

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Also as youll notice in the photo, you can migrate if you are a OPM native country, which is just fucking awesome, its so cool to move about the map like that.  Though the minute you take a second province, youo are stuck wherever you are.  They will be adding similar mechanics like this in the new dlc where a fwe asian countries will be able to move the entirety of their country in the northern russian land areas, which they have drastically expanded.  I really cant wait for the new dlc.


So to answer your question for TL;DR, like 10 years max.  i was using the exploration ideas by like 1510 or so.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Taser on October 23, 2014, 08:44:21 pm
if you play with the dlc, there is an Indian tech tree as well as indian buildings.  These all with the federation mechanics help expansion tremendously.  Once you reach 200 tech points, you can immediately get a colonist, unlike before where you needed like 3k points to get to tech 4 in admin alone.  I actually like the new mechanics in place, and honestly didnt even know they were there.  After that and the reformation of my govt. i took exploration ideas, and then expansion as my next upgrades, with 3 colonies going it only costs you 6g per month, easily attainable, so i expanded to take the coast as best as i could, and then tried to cockblock the spanish colonies. 

You should be able to do a good job of colonizing with the native tech up until you get the points for exploration and expansion.  By the time you do get these ideas, you should have for the most part, taken the entirety of the coast. 

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Also as youll notice in the photo, you can migrate if you are a OPM native country, which is just fucking awesome, its so cool to move about the map like that.  Though the minute you take a second province, youo are stuck wherever you are.  They will be adding similar mechanics like this in the new dlc where a fwe asian countries will be able to move the entirety of their country in the northern russian land areas, which they have drastically expanded.  I really cant wait for the new dlc.


So to answer your question for TL;DR, like 10 years max.  i was using the exploration ideas by like 1510 or so.

That feel when you don't have the dlc.

Well then. It sounds pretty awesome and no wonder. I was really wondering why the hell I had to wait until lvl 4 admin tech to be able to colonize territory that was right fucking next to me.

That dlc makes a lot more sense.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on October 23, 2014, 11:39:13 pm
By the way what is up with this horrendous font on your screenshots?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 24, 2014, 01:01:21 am
By the way what is up with this horrendous font on your screenshots?

Mine?  Which font are you speaking of?  The menu fonts or the Country font?

i use two mods, though i might switch it up soon.  These dont affect the check sum for ironman.  I like the over saturated map look of the new victoria game, so im going to see if i can find something like that.

MODS:

this makes the UI of the game larger, the text easier to read and larger, and adds colors to some of the bonus numbers.
Better UI 2.0
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This thickens the borders of countries so  you can see them from a glance much easier.  It also adds a different scheme to the map, i liked the way it looked over the vanilla look since it was so bold and contrasting.

Thick Borders and recolored water v1.2
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 29, 2014, 10:47:36 pm
Poland can into space!!!!!

I was still eastern, never westernized, and led the world constantly in technology.  Honestly was one of the easiest games i played after Lithuania was annexed and i formed the Commonwealth.

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I still have time left, and with it i most certainly could shave off the top of the Oirat Horde, and take Hungary's remaining cores from Austria as well as finally Annex Byzantium, whom have remained my vassal for like 200 years.  I was more concerned about the achievement however, and i was able to get all of the Polish achievements, so im happy.

The newest DLC comes out tomorrow the 30th, and im pretty excited for it, it also comes with a shitload of new achievements, some of which dont look very possible.  Nonetheless im sure ill end up putting another couple hundred hours into this game with the new dlc.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on October 29, 2014, 10:54:43 pm
Poland can into space!!!!!

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Well played, kurwa.

Made polan proud, got clay.
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: BASNAK on October 30, 2014, 09:55:29 am
Me and a friend playing vanilla MP, me as Ming and friend as Korea. We didn't westernize. (The high unstability and shit is because we rushed the last year and annexed as much as possible before the game ends)

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Check the army size

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Allahu akbar and so forth.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 30, 2014, 05:37:18 pm
ITS HERE ITS HERE ITS HERE!!!!!! FUCK IT BROKE ALL MY MODS, BUT ITS HERE!!!!!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on October 30, 2014, 06:13:12 pm
Omg you are right, its updating. ITS HAPPENING
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on October 30, 2014, 06:16:28 pm
It the extension any good? TELL ME
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on October 30, 2014, 06:17:14 pm
It is Old gods CK2 tier. Must have. Theodoro here i come, glorious Goth master race
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on October 30, 2014, 06:20:12 pm
Compared to the update I mean.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on October 30, 2014, 06:24:05 pm
Would recommend getting it, the difference are pretty mayor (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?811331-1.8-Checksum-7d1c)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 30, 2014, 06:33:16 pm
Compared to the update I mean.

i would say not getting it would be a mistake.  You would be missing Marches, AI control for wars, peace options, new casus belli options, unit builder, fleet maint. options, fleet AI control, nearly 100 new events, literally all of the 30 years war content, and lastly all the client state and revolution stuff.


Also, huge update, all your previous saved games are forever fucked.  The whole map looks like swiss cheese when you try and load up an old game since they added all this new land, the old save file just makes them all terra incognita.

Im also super glad to see that National Ideas have been pretty much squashed, only like 5 countries now have National ideas.  Another thing i noticed is that Albania no longer starts at war with the Ottomans and they have their own idea group, Albanian.  England and France also do not start in the 100 years war any longer. 

Africa has also changed a ton, the entire western coast of Africa is now Wasteland, so Portugal and Spain are going to be neck and neck for Colony supremacy, while France and England will be an afterthought.  Though while i say that, there is something like 700 new provinces so there is plenty of room for all.

In a way it kind of saddens me, i knew so much about the game and how one should start with most of the countries to get a good start.  You can toss all those old guides right out the window now. 
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on October 30, 2014, 10:42:54 pm
Anyone who bought this play multiplayer with me so I can try it out! :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on October 31, 2014, 12:09:09 am
I will probably get all meaningful DLC in one pack and play that then. I still haven't bought any of the extensions, and this one really seems to be worth it.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on October 31, 2014, 12:30:38 am
Yeah i will probably pick up the DLC at the end of the weekend and give it a shot. Has the update really screwed all save games?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on October 31, 2014, 01:04:37 am
Yeah i will probably pick up the DLC at the end of the weekend and give it a shot. Has the update really screwed all save games?

yes, royally.saw a picture earlier where a guy loaded a save file, somehow Portuguese Brazil had take random provinces in the middle of Russia.  Not to mention everything being terra incognita on all the new provinces.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on October 31, 2014, 12:13:56 pm
Yeah started up a new game (my medici empire is gone :evil:) really not sure about this new papal influence system, seems rather contrived if you ask me.

Will pick up the DLC and i look forward to some more rewarding and sensible battles.  So many ridiculous outcomes in my last game trying to hold back the french barbarians.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on October 31, 2014, 08:13:29 pm
Multiplayer is broken but I think there fixing that today according to the devs on the forums.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on October 31, 2014, 11:06:14 pm
There's -75% on wealth of nations and conquest of paradise right now on GG, by the way.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on November 01, 2014, 02:41:31 am
There's -75% on wealth of nations and conquest of paradise right now on GG, by the way.

steal of a deal, i would recommend people jumping on those. 

Finally downloaded all my mods back, holy hell, i couldnt see how bad eu4 was until i was modless.  I truly recommend everyone download the better ui 2.1 mod.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on November 02, 2014, 04:12:48 pm
So what DLC would you guys suggest getting.

Anything worth it except Art of War?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on November 02, 2014, 05:54:59 pm
So what DLC would you guys suggest getting.

Anything worth it except Art of War?

Depends, Art of War is a must have imo. The others are situational, if you like trading nations I'd recommend Wealth of Nations. If you enjoy forming the Netherlands or playing Merchant Republics Res Publica is worth. Keep in mind a lot of the HUGE game play changing features were free content along with the expansions but there are still some nice things to have in most of them. I hate Conquest of Paradise but I like supporting Paradox so I got it anyways.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: pepejul on November 02, 2014, 06:09:49 pm
I don't understand why I can't fight with amerindians... I m in war against them, I have troops...but nothing happens.. no fight, no siege.... I m early in history (1550 something)..

can you explain ? Thanks
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on November 03, 2014, 12:01:34 am
1.8 Byzantium Empire! Test run - non Iron Mode but I've been enjoying the game too much I'll probably play this one through.

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on November 03, 2014, 12:31:31 am
I don't understand why I can't fight with amerindians... I m in war against them, I have troops...but nothing happens.. no fight, no siege.... I m early in history (1550 something)..

can you explain ? Thanks

troops might be exiled.  If you have troops with a black box next to them, then they cant fight or siege.  Move them to friendly territory and they will lose the exiled status.

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other then that, if you mean the AI isnt attacking you, it might be that they cannot see you because of terra incognita, which is a possibility.  Also note that you will not get the colonialism casus belli against natives until you finish the exploration tech tree.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on November 03, 2014, 12:36:45 am
1.8 Byzantium Empire! Test run - non Iron Mode but I've been enjoying the game too much I'll probably play this one through.

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are you using the thick borders mod?  i do like the way it looks, i think its much easier to see the country borders.  I like the white font mod as well by the same creator.

oops, i meant to edit my other post and instead double posted..........
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Butan on November 03, 2014, 12:58:09 am
That DLC looks game-changing enough to absolutely acquire, but I'm at the end of my tolerance to EU4 DLC so will probably hack it or leave it. And I say that having bough everything important up to that point.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on November 03, 2014, 02:43:01 am
That DLC looks game-changing enough to absolutely acquire, but I'm at the end of my tolerance to EU4 DLC so will probably hack it or leave it. And I say that having bough everything important up to that point.

It's a pretty big change, buy it scrublord.

are you using the thick borders mod?  i do like the way it looks, i think its much easier to see the country borders.  I like the white font mod as well by the same creator.

oops, i meant to edit my other post and instead double posted..........

Yessir, I love it. I only use 2 mods which is that and bigger diplomacy view or Better UI 2.0
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: pepejul on November 03, 2014, 02:07:19 pm
troops might be exiled.  If you have troops with a black box next to them, then they cant fight or siege.  Move them to friendly territory and they will lose the exiled status.

other then that, if you mean the AI isnt attacking you, it might be that they cannot see you because of terra incognita, which is a possibility.  Also note that you will not get the colonialism casus belli against natives until you finish the exploration tech tree.

thank you !
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on November 03, 2014, 06:34:46 pm
I began a Cherokee game, first european colonists I see are scottish (that wtf moment). I reformed my administration and now I'm one tech too advanced to westernize from them lmao
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on November 03, 2014, 08:46:57 pm
I began a Cherokee game, first european colonists I see are scottish (that wtf moment). I reformed my administration and now I'm one tech too advanced to westernize from them lmao

anytime i play out of Europe, typically my games are incredibly weird, like Burgandy killing France, Urbino, that shithole italian country with like 2 basetax taking all of Italy, Austria getting exploration ideas(dont ask idk, they were colonizing Africa),  Russia in the HRE, i also saw Bulgaria, which is crazy uncommon typically.  I also saw Qing take over India which was very unique.

i actually very much enjoyed the American Indian tech tree and Federation stuff, i think it truly makes playing them fun.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on November 04, 2014, 01:05:03 pm
Yea they stopped Austria getting exploration in 1.8. I noticed Ottomans are weaker than before. I guess Crimea nerf + Mamluke + QQ base tax increase is an indirect nerf to the Otto blob. I even saw Venice beat them up.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on November 04, 2014, 02:03:58 pm
Yea they stopped Austria getting exploration in 1.8. I noticed Ottomans are weaker than before. I guess Crimea nerf + Mamluke + QQ base tax increase is an indirect nerf to the Otto blob. I even saw Venice beat them up.

theyve increased the amount of ships Venice starts with as well as how many they can own.  I think the Kebab blob was too strong on the water, they would always crush everything in the Mediterranean.

speaking of Kebab, check out this cool mod, how clever.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=321510570

They claim that the Mamluks in the beginning of the game will have an easy time dealing with the Turks.  Not sure how true this is, as i havent tried it, but the early horde nations are rather strong at first, until they get out teched.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on November 11, 2014, 02:52:51 pm
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Just thought I'll bump this thread
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on November 11, 2014, 05:36:48 pm
I would absolutely love to have a 3D globe view ala Civ 4
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Teeth on November 11, 2014, 06:53:04 pm
With a globe map colonizing the Russian areas wouldn't look nearly as impressive :(
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on November 12, 2014, 05:58:28 pm
With a globe map colonizing the Russian areas wouldn't look nearly as impressive :(

Why? It's super damn big still, and not further North enough to have mega distortions from the plane projection. What I mean is that the EU4 projection does a good job at representing what it has to show because it doesn't need to show the poles. It does need to show Poland though.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on November 12, 2014, 07:45:14 pm
Im waiting for VeF to come out but MEIOU and taxes oasis mechanic (http://i.imgur.com/JmXTHND.jpg) is looking really sweet. Aparently it comes out soon too.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on November 12, 2014, 08:47:37 pm
Im waiting for VeF to come out but MEIOU and taxes oasis mechanic (http://i.imgur.com/JmXTHND.jpg) is looking really sweet. Aparently it comes out soon too.

that pic of the oasis stuff looks really cool.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on November 12, 2014, 08:49:27 pm
It's cool but merely graphical right?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on November 13, 2014, 09:13:29 am
Those are provinces. You can traverse the lines, but its something like boarding/landing when in a ship. Supposed to be very time consuming and i think attrition is high.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Teeth on November 13, 2014, 11:17:12 am
Why? It's super damn big still, and not further North enough to have mega distortions from the plane projection. What I mean is that the EU4 projection does a good job at representing what it has to show because it doesn't need to show the poles. It does need to show Poland though.
Well, it could be worse but it is probably still like 50% area added through distortion.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Andswaru on November 13, 2014, 11:46:20 am
Yea they stopped Austria getting exploration in 1.8. I noticed Ottomans are weaker than before. I guess Crimea nerf + Mamluke + QQ base tax increase is an indirect nerf to the Otto blob. I even saw Venice beat them up.

Wtf you mean my byzantium empire achievement is now worthless? noooooooooooooooo.

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Athough it cant be as worthless as the buggy Ruina Imperii one was. Got that for free...
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on November 13, 2014, 04:23:37 pm
Wtf you mean my byzantium empire achievement is now worthless? noooooooooooooooo.

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Athough it cant be as worthless as the buggy Ruina Imperii one was. Got that for free...

i think he means, with all the new added countries and the weakening of the Ottomans early game, the Basileus achievement is easier to achieve, therefore, worthless in comparison to much much harder achievements.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on November 13, 2014, 04:58:35 pm
Theodoro is the new Byzantium
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on November 19, 2014, 03:39:03 pm
Finished my Tuscan play through, taking all Italian cores and vassalising Catalunya as well as most of the Balkans under croatia (just independent Serbia holding one province that i felt sorry for).  Together with the commonwealth we crushed the Ottomons and i established a client republic in both Greece and Turkey. Also Held Mameluke Egypt as a vassal and Colombia, Guyana and Brazil as colonial holdings.

Want to start up a new Ironman, any suggestions for forming Germany?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kalitorian on November 19, 2014, 03:49:45 pm
Finished my Tuscan play through, taking all Italian cores and vassalising Catalunya as well as most of the Balkans under croatia (just independent Serbia holding one province that i felt sorry for).  Together with the commonwealth we crushed the Ottomons and i established a client republic in both Greece and Turkey. Also Held Mameluke Egypt as a vassal and Colombia, Guyana and Brazil as colonial holdings.

Want to start up a new Ironman, any suggestions for forming Germany?
Try forming Germany while playing as Bavaria :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on November 19, 2014, 03:49:51 pm
I like hesse. They have a nice color and flag. Bavaria is easy mode
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: pepejul on November 19, 2014, 04:16:38 pm
AUSTRIA RUINS ALL MY PLANS !!!!  :evil: :evil: :evil:

Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Eddy on November 19, 2014, 04:25:35 pm
Finished my Tuscan play through, taking all Italian cores and vassalising Catalunya as well as most of the Balkans under croatia (just independent Serbia holding one province that i felt sorry for).  Together with the commonwealth we crushed the Ottomons and i established a client republic in both Greece and Turkey. Also Held Mameluke Egypt as a vassal and Colombia, Guyana and Brazil as colonial holdings.

Want to start up a new Ironman, any suggestions for forming Germany?

Try forming Germany while playing as Brunswick  :D

Try forming Germany while playing as Bavaria :D

Dont do that, noone likes Bavaria  8-)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on November 19, 2014, 06:30:36 pm
Want to start up a new Ironman, any suggestions for forming Germany?

I did it with The Hansa and it's waaaay too easy. If you want some lols perhaps you could try starting from a bishopric.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on November 20, 2014, 09:25:40 am
Try starting with mighty Ulm and form germany, could be fun  :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Zanze on November 20, 2014, 05:12:57 pm
Ulm is indeed mighty. One of the easiest Eu3's I've played. Not sure about Eu4 though, I am sure it translates well. Are there any good all-around mods for this, a one fix all kind of deal?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on November 22, 2014, 09:42:41 am
VeF alpha release (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?817274-VeF-2.0.0-Alpha-Release-1-Available-Report-Bugs-Here)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Andswaru on November 22, 2014, 11:54:55 am
Ulm is indeed mighty. One of the easiest Eu3's I've played. Not sure about Eu4 though, I am sure it translates well. Are there any good all-around mods for this, a one fix all kind of deal?

In EU3 it was alot easier been able to make your own CoT now its harder... especially since Barvaria is a total bitch to his small neighbours.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 26, 2014, 04:28:50 am
Recommended mods. I have a few, but I wish to see some other choices.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on November 26, 2014, 08:11:29 am
Highly recommend Music: The german empire, Eastern music, Flanders music + Flanders flavour pack, Manchu Korea Yamato songs, Mongolia Uighur tibet songs
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on November 26, 2014, 05:39:00 pm
http://steamcommunity.com/games/236850/announcements/detail/213122561957605046

cyber monday deals from paradox, get em while its hot, they are selling dlc's for 2.50 or less each.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on December 02, 2014, 09:25:41 am
VeF alpha release 3 (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?820421-VeF-2.0.0-Alpha-Release-3-Available-Report-Bugs-Here) Still some way to go but it should be playable and relatively optimized compared to the previous 2 versions.

Remember not to enable the UI addon as it causes a crash.

Edit. Looks like this version is even slower than Alpha2. Oh well, wait for the next optimization i guess. Or it wont matter if you are not playing on a potato like i am
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on December 02, 2014, 10:00:15 am
New Africa (http://i.imgur.com/3qoQCos.jpg) looking very interesting with the oasis mechanic and new land.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on January 07, 2015, 08:06:53 am
Finally! 80 attempts, 80 fucking attempts, and i finally made it.  Well ive made it twice, but they fooked me outta the achievement the first time.

(Completion!!!!)
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(Failed Attempt)
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on January 24, 2015, 01:20:55 pm
Someone made a EU mod within the M&B world http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=375829713
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Taser on January 24, 2015, 07:26:33 pm
Someone made a EU mod within the M&B world http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=375829713

Seems to have a lot of crashes but cool mod. Keep an eye on that I shall.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kalitorian on January 24, 2015, 07:38:37 pm
It`s still in early alpha. It`s going to get better xD

Btw try to find all provinces named after cRPG players :D
(I named ~100 provinces)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on January 24, 2015, 08:07:00 pm
It`s still in early alpha. It`s going to get better xD

Btw try to find all provinces named after cRPG players :D
(I named ~100 provinces)

I want a province named after me :(
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on January 25, 2015, 03:48:14 pm
It`s still in early alpha. It`s going to get better xD

Btw try to find all provinces named after cRPG players :D
(I named ~100 provinces)
Found Arnsborg :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on February 27, 2015, 10:14:53 pm
Finally! 80 attempts, 80 fucking attempts, and i finally made it.  Well ive made it twice, but they fooked me outta the achievement the first time.

(Completion!!!!)
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(Failed Attempt)
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Well done sir!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on February 28, 2015, 12:09:24 am
New patch and dlc out
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on February 28, 2015, 05:56:11 am
New patch and dlc out
buy me
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on March 01, 2015, 08:38:27 pm
The new El Dorado dlc is quite awesome, best part about it is being able to create your own dream nation :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: bagge on March 03, 2015, 01:25:25 pm
Just started playing again after a year~ break or so. Wanted to restore the Roman Empire :( Need to be more aggressive next time

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on March 20, 2015, 08:27:22 pm
Great Khan achievement as Mongolia, i cut it pretty close towards the end, but was eventually able to ensure Mongorian beef for all.

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on March 20, 2015, 08:53:31 pm
Holy shit dat sardinia piedermont
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on March 20, 2015, 09:57:56 pm
Holy shit dat sardinia piedermont

ikr, thats the first time ive ever seen them in a game like that in which i didnt influence the outcome.  But thats not unusual for my games, seems they are always very odd when i play them.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on March 20, 2015, 10:23:55 pm
That's a microscopic BBB for 1817.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on March 20, 2015, 11:13:46 pm
That's a microscopic BBB for 1817.

they lost a colonial independence war which made them release Normandie, Guyenne, and a few other countries, not to mention they were snuffed on either side by both Sardinia-Piedemont and Netherlands which were both huge.  Towards the end, i had to ally them and the Netherlands to hold Spain at bay while i had a war with Scandinavia and England.

I ended up staying buddhist, which i might add is a terrible religion, as it offers nothing.  I would really like to see variation and different systems in place for the different religions.  I also never had a chance to westernize as i was continuously conquering land.  Mongolia, who starts off as a vassal, poor, and stuck between Ming and Oirat does not make for a very good world conquest country with all these new updates. 
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on March 21, 2015, 01:21:39 am
they lost a colonial independence war which made them release Normandie, Guyenne, and a few other countries, not to mention they were snuffed on either side by both Sardinia-Piedemont and Netherlands which were both huge.  Towards the end, i had to ally them and the Netherlands to hold Spain at bay while i had a war with Scandinavia and England.

I ended up staying buddhist, which i might add is a terrible religion, as it offers nothing.  I would really like to see variation and different systems in place for the different religions.  I also never had a chance to westernize as i was continuously conquering land.  Mongolia, who starts off as a vassal, poor, and stuck between Ming and Oirat does not make for a very good world conquest country with all these new updates.

Much like EU3 the game gets harder with every update. If you use the loopholes that the updates fix, anyways.

In other news, Poland is a really interesting choice. Currently circa 1480, in a second war with Muscowy. The first was me not letting them getting union over Ryazan, and winning of course. I think they can't even form Russia now. I'm starting to think this game could get very easy if I trash the green giant right at the beginning.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on April 15, 2015, 07:52:33 pm
And without further ado, Dracula's Revenge, a very rough achievement, on par with Granada.

To get this achievement, i went through:
warned by Hungary, Ottomans, Poland
Vassal of Poland
Independence war with Poland
Lost a war to Ottomans taking half my land and releasing Hungary
Westernization
Civil war(Draculesti Dynasty died)
Personal Union with Russia(Rurikovich Dynasty died)
Personal Union with France(French war for union)
Stoking a rebellion intentionally to spawn pretender rebels, then getting a new king, ending the union
i used Sow Discontent on the Ottomans when i had them at war and crushed them with rebellions, yes espionage ideas do work.
Finally Multiple wars with the ottomans, Poland, Lithuania, Austria, Naples, Portugal, etc. until the end result here.

Oh and France bugged itself out and wouldnt use its armies, so they just sat there and watched me burn the majority of the time.

An absolute fucking disaster of a run that somehow worked.

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on April 15, 2015, 09:57:39 pm
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on April 15, 2015, 11:05:59 pm
how is that even... wat
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on April 16, 2015, 04:28:58 am
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historical to Romanian history im sure

warned by Hungary, Ottomans, Poland
Vassal of Poland
Independence war with Poland
Lost a war to Ottomans taking half my land and releasing Hungary
Westernization
Civil war(Draculesti Dynasty died)
Personal Union with Russia(Rurikovich Dynasty died)
Personal Union with France(French war for union)
Stoking a rebellion intentionally to spawn pretender rebels, then getting a new king, ending the union
i used Sow Discontent on the Ottomans when i had them at war and crushed them with rebellions, yes espionage ideas do work.
Finally Multiple wars with the ottomans, Poland, Lithuania, Austria, Naples, Portugal, etc. until the end result here.



id also like to mention that i absolutely love the client state stuff, i spent like 20 mins creating a flag and picking a color, not to mention coming up with a name for them.  Hence, the birth of Aegea, my pretty child.

any suggestions for the next achievement run?  im thinking im going to play Pomerania next to form Prussia, just to kind of chill out a bit, anxiety levels were too damn high with the last run going so "smooth".

does this link go to my achievements?
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198007097626/stats/236850/achievements/
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Christo on April 16, 2015, 09:21:15 am
historical to Romanian history im sure

lol  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on April 18, 2015, 03:08:16 am
That border region between austria and iraq raises even more questions though.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on April 18, 2015, 01:08:32 pm
That border region between austria and iraq raises even more questions though.

When i was personal unioned by France, Austria allied France, who was then brought into the huge war over my personal union.  Austria being severely weakened by the multiple wars, and of course now this one was then attacked by the Ottomans for Dalmatia.  At first the ottomans were winning, but once the union war was over, the full force of france came down upon them, and for who knows what reason they took the most random bits of land in a piece deal.  I believe they took 4 pieces of land total, only one that was actually core-able, so for like 150 years they were slightly overextended constantly, idk why dont ask, AI sometimes.  Later on, once i was independent and the ottoman menace was thoroughly crushed they just randomly attacked them and swallowed a huge, just stupid amount of land, which is what you see there.  Im not sure, but i dont believe the AI takes overextension, even though it claims it can be if you sell them land.

Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on April 19, 2015, 12:04:20 am
Perhaps they just wanted to contain you.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on May 08, 2015, 06:08:00 pm

Awwww yessssss dis gun be good
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on May 08, 2015, 09:03:12 pm
Another DLC ill have to pay for... :mad:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on May 09, 2015, 04:46:02 am
Another DLC ill have to pay for... :mad:

Art of war was the only DLC that gave good value for money; the common sense government patch will be the best development they produce. I am glad that paradox finally got around to making this one, glad to be on it again..
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on May 09, 2015, 05:29:14 am
Art of war was the only DLC that gave good value for money; the common sense government patch will be the best development they produce. I am glad that paradox finally got around to making this one, glad to be on it again..

Oh, I'm aware. But I like supporting Paradox for their EU4 games but this is getting a bit much now as this is a expansion I actually want.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on May 09, 2015, 06:41:58 am
A while back i decided id had wanted to get CKII, but then i realized that it was like 200 hundred dollars for the damn game with all the stuff not on sale.  I like paradox's games, and i understand the whole extra development thing, but half the crap they add to the game should have been in it from the start, because it makes sense.  I also dislike the whole "this feature is unavailable without X dlc" part in the game where you can see it, yet cant use it, so it just bugs the hell out of you. cough cough half the CKII map.......shit, you even see it in EU4 with stuff like support independence, or republics and whatnot.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on May 09, 2015, 12:15:09 pm
Art of war was the only DLC that gave good value for money;

Erm no, the DLC had a few gimmicks like automatic army composition etc. most of the interesting stuff was in the free patch.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Andswaru on May 09, 2015, 12:31:42 pm
Get onto humblebundle poor people they are giving it away for peanuts again.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Grumbs on May 09, 2015, 02:00:08 pm
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/p/crusaderkings2collection_storefront
+ Charlemagne: https://www.humblebundle.com/store/p/crusaderkings2_charlemagne_storefront

Not bad..

Also got EU4 + DLC . Need to get Art of War separately tho, not sure about others
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on May 09, 2015, 03:18:27 pm
Erm no, the DLC had a few gimmicks like automatic army composition etc. most of the interesting stuff was in the free patch.

I disagree, the diplomatic abilities and the changes to army and fleet mechanics are far more than gimmicks.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on May 14, 2015, 11:55:55 pm
We started up an MP game today, people interested in jumping in should get in touch. Strudog already got taken out so dont worry if you suck :P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on May 15, 2015, 03:22:35 pm
We started up an MP game today, people interested in jumping in should get in touch. Strudog already got taken out so dont worry if you suck :P
1st time i saw someone actually getting taken out :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on May 15, 2015, 05:07:14 pm
poor Münster just wanted to be friends with frisian peoples
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on May 15, 2015, 07:32:48 pm
poor Münster just wanted to be friends with frisian peoples

when do you guys play, i could pop in for a few hours and ruin stuff, unless you wouldnt like me world policing.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on May 15, 2015, 07:40:57 pm
mostly evenings in europe time
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on May 16, 2015, 12:13:02 pm
Will you play today? If so I'm up for it :twisted:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on May 16, 2015, 12:21:30 pm
not me , today is a special day

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: [ptx] on May 16, 2015, 01:26:47 pm
No, it's not special, just like you.

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on May 16, 2015, 01:42:34 pm
No, it's not special, just like you.

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you are so sweet
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 17, 2015, 07:33:07 pm
Still have MP games? Sadly all the NA guys broke up after a last game. To many OP custom nations.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on June 05, 2015, 05:54:36 pm
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on June 05, 2015, 06:46:17 pm
DDRJake did a preview on Common Sense found here http://www.twitch.tv/ddrjake/v/5728892
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on June 07, 2015, 07:07:45 pm
Damn this dlc/patch seems to be quite huge, would love to try it out in a big multilayer game :twisted:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on June 07, 2015, 07:09:24 pm
The new forts system and reforms to peace deals really change the game play, also the ability to invest points in provincial development means the DLC is a must buy.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on June 07, 2015, 07:12:18 pm
The hype is real!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on June 09, 2015, 07:27:17 pm
Common Sense is now out, and its currently more expensive than the base game! :P


I will happily set up an MP game with anyone who hasn't brought it.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on June 09, 2015, 07:55:10 pm
I will happily set up an MP game with anyone who hasn't brought it.

No MP game with me then? :(
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on June 09, 2015, 08:27:15 pm
No you're work with tunisia has shown you are a liability
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on June 09, 2015, 10:39:07 pm
This dlc has some nice potential, in our first game Strudog allied with France to beat Burgundy but got rekt and gtxed, I lost a war to Ferara as Tuscany and Latvian and Kafein is getting slaughter by a German coalition 10/10

Also some random OPM became the emperor over the HRE
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on June 09, 2015, 11:44:16 pm
Ottomans was getting rolled over by Hungary and England eaten by Scotland.

No you're your work with tunisia Tunisia has shown you are a liability

We must preserve the purity of the English language.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on June 10, 2015, 12:34:33 am
100 years war is removed at the start so thought ill give  England a try, going well so far.  I'm really liking the reworking to the startup in Europe from the patch.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on June 10, 2015, 06:58:42 am
Things I hate

- Diploannex costs x2 then prior.
- AI is walking through my fucking forts somehow playing as Papacy.
- Can no longer see yearly manpower gainz, or see total base tax on a province unless you hover over it.
- Attrition, jesus christ attrition. Sieging a garrison rapes manpower if you have a large stack on it.
- AI seems to be pretty buggy at the moment, they seem to have problems capping land without forts on them sometimes and will constantly run back and forth.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on June 10, 2015, 11:47:33 am
- AI seems to be pretty buggy at the moment, they seem to have problems capping land without forts on them sometimes and will constantly run back and forth.

I think I saw this happening.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on June 10, 2015, 11:51:55 am
- Diploannex costs x2 then prior.

This is good because it makes vassal feeding less viable as a tactic, which considering the improvements made to vassal interactions with the DLC is a deserved nerf.

- Attrition, jesus christ attrition. Sieging a garrison rapes manpower if you have a large stack on it.
i haven't noticed this as being too bad, but I recommend only leaving the required siege stack on a fort and nothing more if you can avoid it.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on June 10, 2015, 01:19:36 pm
Sweet Denmark tears:

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on June 14, 2015, 01:40:38 am
Yeah, the forts broke the AI pretty hard. They're so fucking retarded it's insane. They just don't know how to react and deal with sieging provinces. They run around with their heads chopped off refusing to group when needed because they don't want to stop a cap. I've had Austria sit in Denmark with 1 province capped and refusing to cap the rest of denmark for god knows why even though all of denmarks troops were in Livoian Order.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on June 14, 2015, 03:08:00 am
I cant say they have been that dumb in my experience, I have managed to contain France very easily but spain has a p.u. on austria. Just cored paris for the night in Paris achievment on steam. Strolling my way through NA with colonial expansion and have got missions to establish trade in India. Will get some screens to show.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on June 14, 2015, 10:53:25 pm
Not far from having the conditions to form Westphalia. Doesn't sound like something I should do though, republics are OP.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Andswaru on June 15, 2015, 05:42:16 pm
I cant say they have been that dumb in my experience, I have managed to contain France very easily but spain has a p.u. on austria. Just cored paris for the night in Paris achievment on steam. Strolling my way through NA with colonial expansion and have got missions to establish trade in India. Will get some screens to show.

that achievement is cheating now. totally devalued. :P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on June 16, 2015, 06:11:16 am
Yeah well i didn't say it was hard to get, then again there were strats for easy unioning France anyway so it wasn't exactly the hardest to get before.

Has anyone played a free city yet? Think they are a bit OP atm.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Strudog on June 19, 2015, 12:45:26 am
Me, Vaga, Herezy have a nice campaign going at the moment if anyone wants to Join. The new patch is nice, have had no trouble with AI so far at all, France seems a bit less OP.

Playing as Spain, will upload screen tomorrow
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on June 19, 2015, 01:01:27 am
Me, Vaga, Herezy have a nice campaign going at the moment if anyone wants to Join. The new patch is nice, have had no trouble with AI so far at all, France seems a bit less OP.

Playing as Spain, will upload screen tomorrow
Why no invite me? :´(
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 19, 2015, 02:08:19 am
Me, Vaga, Herezy have a nice campaign going at the moment if anyone wants to Join. The new patch is nice, have had no trouble with AI so far at all, France seems a bit less OP.

Playing as Spain, will upload screen tomorrow

If only you guys weren't EU, me being NA and all :oops:. I love EU MP, but I only know of 1 person who generally plays with me. Can't get many others(our old group died from custom nations)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on June 19, 2015, 02:10:31 am
Has anyone played a free city yet? Think they are a bit OP atm.

I have not, what makes them OP?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on June 19, 2015, 02:49:48 am
Me, Vaga, Herezy have a nice campaign going at the moment if anyone wants to Join. The new patch is nice, have had no trouble with AI so far at all, France seems a bit less OP.

Playing as Spain, will upload screen tomorrow

I'm in chaps, give me a time.


I have not, what makes them OP?

Some of them Blobbed quite quickly in my first game with the DLC, hasn't happened in any other games since and it was quite an odd setup in the first.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Strudog on June 19, 2015, 10:12:16 am
We normally start around 1 PM GMT, the more the merrier.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on June 19, 2015, 10:59:09 am
Probably won't be able to join you today but maybe tomorrow
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on June 19, 2015, 10:11:19 pm
I'm in chaps, give me a time.


Some of them Blobbed quite quickly in my first game with the DLC, hasn't happened in any other games since and it was quite an odd setup in the first.

I thought you lost free city status when you got more than 1 province?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on June 20, 2015, 01:30:59 am
Yeah they do, they just managed to blob afterwards; in the first play through i did  both Ulm and Frankfurt became really big. It was simply coincidence from the first game and ain't happened since.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Strudog on June 24, 2015, 12:05:22 pm
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Massive religious war, Protestants lead by Brandenburg Vs. Catholics lead by Austria
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on June 24, 2015, 03:41:23 pm
Good old Tuscany being helpful down there in Rome
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on June 24, 2015, 03:54:59 pm
Meanwhile in Lan Xang.... :lol:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on June 24, 2015, 04:25:22 pm
Good old Tuscany being helpful down there in Rome
Hey! I took one Spanish colony!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on June 24, 2015, 05:20:25 pm
i heard nasty things about switzerland, i hope it wasnt true
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on June 24, 2015, 05:36:34 pm
i heard nasty things about switzerland, i hope it wasnt true
Well they kinda rivaled me... damn catholics
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on June 24, 2015, 06:09:41 pm
This has probably been posted before but it's so beautiful I need to post it again


Ulm you are my hero
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on June 24, 2015, 11:55:12 pm
This has probably been posted before but it's so beautiful I need to post it again


Ulm you are my hero

Am I the only one who found that fucking awful?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on June 25, 2015, 12:13:06 am
i heard nasty things about switzerland, i hope it wasnt true

I hope you werent to find of Milan
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on June 25, 2015, 11:07:47 am
Still winning boys

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 25, 2015, 01:59:01 pm
Still winning boys

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Pretty fun mod. Severly imbalanced for MP though.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Vovka on June 25, 2015, 03:26:28 pm
can i in new version build a wall on borders  while playing like a hungary?  :P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on June 25, 2015, 03:53:31 pm
can i in new version build a wall on borders  while playing like a hungary?  :P
Yes Hungary can into wall
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: AntiBlitz on July 24, 2015, 02:30:11 am
Sunset Invasion completed:

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 24, 2015, 05:19:45 am
dat papal state doe. :shock:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on July 29, 2015, 04:31:30 pm
Tuscany is stronk, I ended with 1769 total development for my empire (not including vassals / clients).

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on July 29, 2015, 04:44:52 pm
Tuscany is stronk, I ended with 1769 total development for my empire (not including vassals / clients).

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Almost as good as mine in the mp game

Also are we going to start a new one any time soon?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on July 29, 2015, 04:55:54 pm
Casimir nub, Italy got terrible ideas compared to Tuscany.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on July 29, 2015, 05:06:05 pm
Casimir nub, Italy got terrible ideas compared to Tuscany.
Depends what you want :P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on July 29, 2015, 05:27:14 pm
Nothing nubish about it, : A.) Gets rid of occupation of Rome which allows me to gain papal influence again. 2.) Tuscan ideas are good but Italian ideas are better suited for a large empire / more rounded IMO. 3.)It's a better flag which is more suitable for the later game. 4.) Easy transition to monarchy which allowed me to pick up noble ideas and take up absolute monarchy.

Traditions:
Tuscany -10% Development cost +1 Yearly papal influence
Italy +20% Global trade power +50% Better relations over time
Italy traditions are more useful especially if your empire is growing rapidly (helps drop AE penalty and no development investing late game)

Idea 1:
Tuscany: -5% Technology cost -5% Idea cost
Italy: -10% Stability cost modifier
Not much to say here, i had completed most ideas and was well ahead on tech, although arguably Tuscany has the stronger idea here

Idea 2:
Tuscany: -20% Mercenary cost
Italy: +15% Infantry combat ability
No debate, infantry ability is superior in every way especially as my economy was so fucking solid.

Idea 3:
Tuscany: -1 Interest per annum
Italy:-15% Galley cost +20% Galley combat ability
Again my economy invalidated the need for loans and this ensured my dominance of Mediterranean seas.

Idea 4:
Tuscany:+1 Yearly prestige
Italy:+33% National manpower modifier
No brainer, i get all my presige from fighting bundle of stickss i don't need the drip feed.

Idea 5:
Tuscany:+15% National trade income modifier
Italy:+15% National tax modifier
Tuscany has the favour here as trade by far was the greatest part of my empire, however i had plenty of trade bonuses and tax is more stable when you are at war.

Idea 6:
Tuscany:+10% Production efficiency
Italy:+1 Yearly prestige
Obvious favour again for Tuscany ideas as production is more useful than prestige feed unless your a pussy.

Idea 7:
Tuscany: +25% National manpower modifier
Italy:-25% Core-creation cost
Tuscany has the edge here but invalidated by idea 4 IMO,  and core reduction cost is super useful for late game expansion.

Ambition:
Tuscany: +5% Discipline
Italy:+20% Fort Defense
Tuscany ambition has a slight edge but not a large one as 5% isn't particularly significant, it would have been more useful to me however as my forts were almost never besieged.

For me it's a 5:4 splint in favour of Italy ideas and add to that the new flag, monarchy and free prestige / autonomy decrease it made sense at the stage in the game i'd reached.

Tl;dr: Ur nub!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on July 29, 2015, 05:28:25 pm
Almost as good as mine in the mp game

Also are we going to start a new one any time soon?

Been pretty busy the last couple weeks with uni graduation and such, should be free for the next few though if we can organise some.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on July 29, 2015, 05:36:29 pm
Mmh yeah, it seems it's at least a much more balanced choice now. In some previous version the Italian ideas were kind of crappy.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on July 29, 2015, 06:43:09 pm
Mmh yeah, it seems it's at least a much more balanced choice now. In some previous version the Italian ideas were kind of crappy.

Italian ideas =/= Italy ideas, Italian ideas are the starting ones for the minor Italian powers (Siena/Ferrara/Mantua) and they are fairly trashy.  I don't know if they changed the Italy ideas in recent patches but they seem to have good synergy and make sense for a larger empire while the Tuscan ones are clearly favoured towards a smaller / emergent power.

Italian group ideas:
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on July 29, 2015, 06:50:47 pm
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on July 29, 2015, 07:22:32 pm
Only because they have nothing worth taking from them  :wink:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on July 29, 2015, 08:26:31 pm
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on July 29, 2015, 09:21:59 pm
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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on July 31, 2015, 08:52:58 am
I need to start the game up and make a "the sun never sets on The Hansa" screenshot. I have a dominant trade company in The Moluccas, South Africa and Java. Right now I'm expanding into eastern India but these bundle of stickss are are big, all allied between themselves and never start wars. Also somehow Russia lost to Sweden in the late 1500s and none of Northern Asia has been colonized.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on August 02, 2015, 10:36:37 pm
So what you think should we start up a new mp game tomorrow?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on August 04, 2015, 01:01:18 pm
I'd be up for setting up a game today or tomorrow if people are free, doesn't need to be a big one.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 04, 2015, 04:37:32 pm
Just spam me on steam i'll probs be up for one
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on August 05, 2015, 03:44:43 am
Leave the waging of wars to others! But you, happy Austria, marry; for the realms which Mars awards to others, Venus transfers to you.

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on August 05, 2015, 04:44:10 pm
Aragon go home you're drunk
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on August 07, 2015, 12:26:08 am
The hype is universal!

Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on August 10, 2015, 01:47:26 am
A Kaiser not just in name
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Unfortunately i wasnt able to complete integration of Poland but pretty happy with the result, wish i could have gotten rid of those pesky English mind.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on August 10, 2015, 08:53:43 am
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Playing habsburgs is just cheating
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on August 10, 2015, 12:30:55 pm
Well I've never played them before and was really just achievment hunting, the Austria missions make them super op IMO, but quite fun to play.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on August 12, 2015, 01:44:31 pm
Poor arn lost his King but thankfully i was there to fill the void in his life!

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on October 11, 2015, 03:21:07 am
4 attempts and I finally have achieved 'The Buddhists strike back'

Taking all of India and converting it to Theravada Buddhism isn't easy, but once you are past the initial powerhouses of Vagina-Guard and Bad-Man-Is it isn't really hard going.  I must admit that since the latests patch playing Buddhist expansion is at least viable and not instant suicide, but I still found myself running negative Karma for a good part of the game (although thankfully I had enough momentum to overcome the military weakness).  I would like to see them add some more interesting balance points to having negative and positive karma, just so it isn't and instant nerf if you stray to far from the middle ground.

Converting Nepal to Theravada and spitting them out as a vassal helped me to get this done before 1700, could have managed it quicker if I had been min-maxing my province ceding and claims but once you get over a certain size it really just becomes a case of when and not if you finish.

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SeQuel on October 11, 2015, 06:53:08 am
Nice man, what was your opening strategy?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on October 11, 2015, 10:13:12 am
Wait for Vijay and Bahmanis to war each other and dog pile Vijay sniping their trade fleet when it's out at sea, if they don't war you're more than likely going to get squashed by Vijay and need to restart.  Secure yourself in ceylon and return a couple cores to nearby states to buff your karma. Wait for the opms to war each other and jump whoever wins and take all their land. Force vassal is Mandurai and cede remaining southern India kingdoms to yourself. Ally Bahmanis and take as much of Vijay as you can. 

This point on your pretty open as Bahmanis will probably drop alliance and you'll also face attacks from began / orrisa in the east so I allied Jaunpur and Gujarat and slowly worked my way East as Bengali is the same culture group as you and gives you control over Indian trade.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on October 11, 2015, 12:53:01 pm
we should do nice big mp game like tuesday?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on October 11, 2015, 01:48:02 pm
Get a job
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on October 11, 2015, 10:37:59 pm
Tuesday actually works better for me than weekends, cos you know retail is shit.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on October 15, 2015, 06:31:52 pm
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on October 16, 2015, 10:27:28 am
turkey so hard

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 16, 2015, 03:36:15 pm
turkey so hard

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WHICH MOD?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on October 16, 2015, 05:17:24 pm
Dat Polotsk
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on October 16, 2015, 06:40:59 pm
WHICH MOD?
veritas et fortitudo 3.0 .0 beta
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on October 16, 2015, 11:00:50 pm
veritas et fortitudo 3.0 .0 beta

we do have an MP game rolling at the moment for it at the moment for any that want to join in hit me up on steam: Casimir4794
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on October 18, 2015, 04:10:15 am
we do have an MP game rolling at the moment for it at the moment for any that want to join in hit me up on steam: Casimir4794
this is soooo wrong

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on October 18, 2015, 01:48:55 pm
this is soooo wrong

English is hard.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on October 18, 2015, 08:31:32 pm
this is soooo wrong

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try to guess who is playing what
Take a look at the outliner... It's like you never played this gamed before...
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on October 18, 2015, 08:41:29 pm
Literally the worst EU4 player I've ever encountered.  Get back to the potato farm.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on October 18, 2015, 08:47:59 pm
That map is fucked up. Casimir you are not playing Wales?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on October 18, 2015, 08:54:37 pm
No I am the Mighty Milan but I may have been vassal feeding a few people over the last 50 years.

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on November 21, 2015, 03:40:49 am
Couple of screens form our MP session that just ended.  If you feel like jumping in with us hit me up on steam (casimir4794) or just meet up on Merc / Kalmar TS when you are about and you can jump straight in.

Player list:
Arn: Livonian Order / Kurland 3rd
Casimir: Utrecht / Netherlands 2nd
Kami: Portugal / Richugal 1st
Mr. K: Tuetonic Order / Prussia 4th

Guest staring:
Avenge as whoever Austria wants to fight & Gradmom as The little colonial Tuscany that could!


Europe Map:
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Global Map:
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The game ended a little early and we will be starting a new one next week, we'd thought a couple big imperialist wars in Europe culminating in our last war which pitted Austria, with the support of Arn's Kurland, France, Hungary & Aragon against Kami, myself and Mr. K as Portugal contested the pitiful thrown of Croatia.

Notable moments for me were when Arn got stomped by Kami and Mr. K together, but was able to negotiate a white peace with Kami before i joined in order to prevent a wipe-out of Kurland by the Prussians, also the many rises and falls of the great city of Ulm who struck fear into the hearts of us all and brought many close misses to the stability of our empires, and of course my signature move of vassal feeding great Britain to Wales was as satisfying and brilliant as ever.

Our next game should be starting next week and with the newest piece of DLC coming out December 1st you can expect a sale on the regular game for those who might be interested in picking up a copy!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Umbra on November 22, 2015, 02:00:39 pm
Croatia stronk
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on November 22, 2015, 02:19:33 pm
Castile got rek

And... is that Oman I see over there?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on November 22, 2015, 02:41:43 pm
Castile got rek

And... is that Oman I see over there?
Yes and... yes!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Voncrow on November 22, 2015, 03:14:43 pm
I started a game of the Netherlands recently, I've already started conquering GB but I'm about 100 years behind. Croatia also is a thing in my game and is kind of expanding somehow.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on November 23, 2015, 04:45:43 am
Castile got rek

And... is that Oman I see over there?

Castile got the Iberian wedding then lost both the PU's due to low prestige in around 1 year.  join us for the next round if you are free next week mate!



I started a game of the Netherlands recently, I've already started conquering GB but I'm about 100 years behind. Croatia also is a thing in my game and is kind of expanding somehow.

GB conquest is very easy as soon as you can win 1 war against them, taking a single british province or releasing a nation (to diplo-vassalise / ally) makes for immediate conquest of the isles as you can avoid any naval warfare and simple siege down London without any real resistance.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on November 24, 2015, 12:26:51 am
join us for the next round if you are free next week mate!

Will probably not happen, although I can play some AI sometimes.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 24, 2015, 03:14:50 am
What Mod do you guys play?
When do you play?

I love EU4, but the NA group disbanded :(
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on November 24, 2015, 11:39:12 am
What Mod do you guys play?
When do you play?

I love EU4, but the NA group disbanded :(
if i dont force these scrubs to play some mod they play shitty vanilla
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on November 24, 2015, 06:03:47 pm
What Mod do you guys play?
When do you play?

I love EU4, but the NA group disbanded :(
We don't play with mods atm and we usually play around evening to late night cet add me on steam if you want to join(Arn with my forum avatar) or come to this ts and see if we are there 176.9.48.138:9999
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on November 24, 2015, 06:04:19 pm
if i dont force these scrubs to play some mod they play shitty vanilla
Learn to play vanilla before you try your mods and get rekt in them :P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Voncrow on November 24, 2015, 10:47:55 pm
GB conquest is very easy as soon as you can win 1 war against them, taking a single british province or releasing a nation (to diplo-vassalise / ally) makes for immediate conquest of the isles as you can avoid any naval warfare and simple siege down London without any real resistance.

In my Holland game where I formed the Netherlands, Britain was always sitting comfy with like 40-50 troops on the isles. I didn't even have 20k and always relied on France for Ground support. And from early game I easily achieve Naval Supremacy over all other Nations, for the longest time the only way I could beat Britain was with trade conflicts due to only winning via embargoes. I finally was able to take more land by landing in Ireland and blocking it off from British troops so that France felt safe to land its troops there and we finally beat them in Land. This lead to their slow demise as I I conquered them chuncks of land at a time since they were much weaker and I much stronger on Land now.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on November 25, 2015, 02:42:05 pm
In my Holland game where I formed the Netherlands, Britain was always sitting comfy with like 40-50 troops on the isles. I didn't even have 20k and always relied on France for Ground support. And from early game I easily achieve Naval Supremacy over all other Nations, for the longest time the only way I could beat Britain was with trade conflicts due to only winning via embargoes. I finally was able to take more land by landing in Ireland and blocking it off from British troops so that France felt safe to land its troops there and we finally beat them in Land. This lead to their slow demise as I I conquered them chuncks of land at a time since they were much weaker and I much stronger on Land now.

If you have naval supremacy but their land forces are stronger simply bait them into Ireland with a weak military force or lots of merc then block the crossing with your fleet when their armies arrive.  Proceed to land your actual armies in Britain and easy win the war without taking major losses.  Gotta take them British lands as irish development is pitiful compared to that in Britain. Was easily over 2k development in our mp game but a decent amount of that came from taking almost all of the Indian coast, the Malaysia peninsular and various Chinese trade ports.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on November 25, 2015, 08:58:58 pm
If you have naval supremacy but their land forces are stronger simply bait them into Ireland with a weak military force or lots of merc then block the crossing with your fleet when their armies arrive.  Proceed to land your actual armies in Britain and easy win the war without taking major losses.  Gotta take them British lands as irish development is pitiful compared to that in Britain. Was easily over 2k development in our mp game but a decent amount of that came from taking almost all of the Indian coast, the Malaysia peninsular and various Chinese trade ports.

This is one of the major things that the AI should be better at. The same can happen with Ceylon, and it's even more dramatic when you "fight" a late game unified India with a million troops all stuck on Ceylon.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on November 25, 2015, 11:47:00 pm
This is one of the major things that the AI should be better at. The same can happen with Ceylon, and it's even more dramatic when you "fight" a late game unified India with a million troops all stuck on Ceylon.

Ming as well can easy have 20 - 40 k troops taken out by blocking them on Hainan in the south, however it is one of the few advantages of being a strong naval power and removing it would be a huge blow to an already underpowered component of the game.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 26, 2015, 12:11:31 am
Ming as well can easy have 20 - 40 k troops taken out by blocking them on Hainan in the south, however it is one of the few advantages of being a strong naval power and removing it would be a huge blow to an already underpowered component of the game.

Fix naval battles. Morale > All other naval stats.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 26, 2015, 03:57:00 am
Ming as well can easy have 20 - 40 k troops taken out by blocking them on Hainan in the south, however it is one of the few advantages of being a strong naval power and removing it would be a huge blow to an already underpowered component of the game.

Ming stronk!

Even when everyone declares war on you in the last year, Ming will never falter, Ming will never fall!!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Voncrow on November 27, 2015, 08:36:42 pm
Finished my Netherlands game, thought I let you guys know how it went. I started as Holland so easier than 1 province dutch minors.

Europe:
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America's + Africa:
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Asia:
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I'm gonna write down the history of the game that I remember into segments based on the main Power involved.

Game Commentary:
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I'm wondering what I should play next, any recommendations?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on November 28, 2015, 12:31:01 am
Seems like Muscowy played by the AI has become really weak in the last few versions.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on November 28, 2015, 08:44:53 am
I'm wondering what I should play next, any recommendations?

I really enjoyed my ceylon game, took me a couple attempts to get the achievement but once you've overcome Vajinyagar it's not unreasonably hard, other Indian nations can be good fun and the religious divergence in the region make it very interesting.

If you would like a more relaxed non-European game I cam suggest taking one of the Indonesian nations are forming Malaya, Makassar were my choice when we did it in one of our MP sessions but the stronger nations probably make for an easier fun.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on November 28, 2015, 01:35:58 pm
I wonder if the Irish achievement is still in that "really hard, but not impossible" territory.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on December 02, 2015, 04:48:32 am
scotland can into independence
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Grytviken on December 02, 2015, 05:02:52 am
What DLC's do you recommend for EU4?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on December 02, 2015, 01:54:00 pm
It really depends on what you want to do.  I'd say common sense, and art of war are general must buys as they add a lot of universal feature, art of war probably being less important of the two. If you  are interested in a colonial game then conquest of paradise and el dorado should be taken as well. Others such as res-publica and wealth of nations are less important and should only be taken for specific games such as playing the Netherlands or Poland. The latests cossak DLC is also one of the biggest, particularly for the estates and diplomatic feedback features which have some pretty big implications for pretty much every country in the game.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 02, 2015, 02:01:18 pm
What does cossaks do to game. Kinda stopped following it a bit ago.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on December 02, 2015, 03:24:22 pm
Diplomatic feedback allows you to interact with the ai, setting your attitude towards nations and declare what provinces you wish to capture.  Estates add internal faction who compete for influence and can add bonuses to your country, but they cost you autonomy in provinces and if their loyalty drops to low they will turn their bonuses into strong malus's against your Kingdom and they can attempt to seize power if they gain to much influence.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Butan on December 02, 2015, 03:26:19 pm
Wow, I didnt follow the latest DLC features, this cossack one sounds gold.
I loved the last gameplay expansion DLC, might try this one soon.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Voncrow on December 27, 2015, 12:20:53 pm
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 :lol: Man I have not been enjoying estates. Plus events have been fucking me hard lately.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on December 27, 2015, 01:43:32 pm
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 :lol: Man I have not been enjoying estates. Plus events have been fucking me hard lately.
Estates are awesome, great bonuses and free monarchpoints!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Butan on December 27, 2015, 01:50:12 pm
Estates are indeed really fun, and useful if you manage well! Gotta understand that influence/loyalty is mostly static (over time) and only big ass events and giving out the maximum-est provinces to them can make them very profitable (at the same time, not, since it increases autonomy; also events can force you to completely fuck up an influential group!).


I have been participating in a stable MP game that is nearly over for the past two weeks, I will post a european-centric animated gif of it in the next days (when its done), in political mode (and other modes if people suggest something that can be done!).
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Voncrow on December 27, 2015, 01:55:41 pm
The problem is when I was playing every single province I conquered was given to Clergy. They should make it so when you take lands you get them cleared because it caused me to basically be fucked because either the clergy doom event spawns or they hate me and want to kill me. Other than that I don't even mind the small autonomy change and find it a more fun and dynamic experience. Although the ai is acting really dumb since this patch and it has been bothering me.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on December 27, 2015, 02:30:39 pm
Estates are indeed really fun, and useful if you manage well! Gotta understand that influence/loyalty is mostly static (over time) and only big ass events and giving out the maximum-est provinces to them can make them very profitable (at the same time, not, since it increases autonomy; also events can force you to completely fuck up an influential group!).


I have been participating in a stable MP game that is nearly over for the past two weeks, I will post a european-centric animated gif of it in the next days (when its done), in political mode (and other modes if people suggest something that can be done!).

Might be interesting to see the development mode just to see whether players were more interested in blobbing or growing their countries internally.   did you play with RNW? I've tried a couple mods which are supposed to improve it but i still find i am largely disappointed by its results and have gone back to playing without it.

I think the estates definitely need some working, the base autonomy loss from the distribution of provinces remains a huge problem for me and makes me unwilling to give any more than the required provinces, it also seems incredibly hard to keep the influence and loyalty of the merchant classes and they seem relatively weak compared to the other estates (i mean who the fuck ever really needs diplo power after all?).
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Voncrow on December 27, 2015, 03:52:30 pm
I think the estates definitely need some working, the base autonomy loss from the distribution of provinces remains a huge problem for me and makes me unwilling to give any more than the required provinces, it also seems incredibly hard to keep the influence and loyalty of the merchant classes and they seem relatively weak compared to the other estates (i mean who the fuck ever really needs diplo power after all?).

I don't know, the trade faction can give you that sweet 20% trade efficiency and every now and then getting some free carracks. Although other than that they do seem a bit weaker but I still think they are worth the extra effort you have to put in.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Butan on December 27, 2015, 04:11:56 pm
did you play with RNW? I've tried a couple mods which are supposed to improve it but i still find i am largely disappointed by its results and have gone back to playing without it.

I wanted to but forgot to ask the host about it ;_; I'm especially interested about the "fantasy new world" option where you can basically have a chance to spawn civilised/technologically advanced nations in the new world  :o  I've never had the chance to play a MP with it as of now.



I think the estates definitely need some working, the base autonomy loss from the distribution of provinces remains a huge problem for me and makes me unwilling to give any more than the required provinces, it also seems incredibly hard to keep the influence and loyalty of the merchant classes and they seem relatively weak compared to the other estates (i mean who the fuck ever really needs diplo power after all?).

The estates are somewhat different country per country. Maybe the country you had with those issues is "bound by the game" to have problem with such or such groups. For the countries have been playing as, I've felt that, indeed, you want to have estates have as few provinces as possible under their control, but even that minimum threshold is quite high and force you to have a large chunk of your territories with -25% autonomy. The bonuses, for me, balance it all if you manage both loyalty/influence. I've found that when you have enough money and prestige (or other "currency" to buy loyalty) its totally worth it to increase loyalty and sometimes influence to reap the most rewards, through the estates interaction panel.

Things like +20% trade efficiency, as Voncrow said, is completely OP. I'm the 1st trade income nation, in part thanks to that, I believe.
Nobility giving you -10% land maintenance, +20% manpower modifier, is extremely useful too. And the clergy with -% development cost and overall stability  :o
I know there is other kind of estates but I didnt play enough countries to know them.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Voncrow on December 28, 2015, 03:32:29 am
Found an interesting mission in my yapan game.

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Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on December 28, 2015, 01:00:33 pm
Paradox at it again with the silly.

How many of the achievements are impossible in the latest version anyway? Must be a good 10% of them at least.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on December 28, 2015, 01:38:48 pm
Found an interesting mission in my yapan game.

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Thankfully I believe the AI is programmed to never take that mission. Swedish humor I guess.

Well I don't know about impossible, which ones were you thinking?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on March 01, 2016, 04:27:18 pm
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on March 01, 2016, 06:44:49 pm
Hype, sailors seem way more interesting than estates.

...
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Falka on March 01, 2016, 07:47:10 pm
They're not gonna release EUV?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on March 01, 2016, 08:13:20 pm
EU5 will be like, never.

Or it will go the way of Civ 5 and be basically a stripped down version of its predecessor. If you bought every EU4 DLC at release date that adds up to a ridiculous amount of money. I'm legit concerned of what will happen when they really need to change the engine and when DLCs stop bringing enough cash.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Butan on March 01, 2016, 08:30:06 pm
I'm legit concerned of what will happen when they really need to change the engine and when DLCs stop bringing enough cash.

If they change the engine, they will need to re-develop all, even if they did that before and should be able to re-do it slightly faster. So yes, going to have to wait a few solid years to have the equivalent of actual EU4 + DLCs if EU5 releases, except if they develop it for years and release it only when it "caught back" EU4. I hope they at least have all the UI done if and when EU5 is out, vanilla EU4 was quite barebone in terms of options.

Anyway for a game like EU, all they really need is a workable map.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on March 01, 2016, 08:39:51 pm
Actually, EU4 at release had basically everything that the complete EU3 had, plus more mechanics and much better balance. So few things were missing in fact that I believe they were able to port a lot of the logic from one game to the next. Or they simply developed EU4 over a very long period while they were still doing EU3 DLCs and other games.

The thing is, EU5 is most likely not even close, considering they still need to release Vic3 which might be a hit seller as well.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Butan on March 01, 2016, 09:38:09 pm
Didnt play much EU3 before EU4, your post gives me hope they might be able to create a sequel with most of the goodies then!
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on March 19, 2016, 12:17:50 am
Hype



Sounds like a good iteration. Kubaluba.

Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Butan on March 20, 2016, 03:16:07 pm
Animated GIF of a 300 year multiplayer game (http://gifmaker.cc/PlayGIFAnimation.php?folder=2016031921HJ6AJ7U0HuPVn7EmhUy8lD&file=output_raS5co.gif&music=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ6XIkTK24Q&start=0&start=0) (with music)

Higher resolution version (http://gifmaker.cc/PlayFrameAnimation.php?folder=2016031921HJ6AJ7U0HuPVn7EmhUy8lD) (no music)

Players:
Ottoman = Butan
France = Herezy
Holland/Netherland = Raptor
Austria = Squall
Brandenburg = Thorvic
Castille = Gostax
Muscowy then Scandinavia = Lioc
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: the real god emperor on March 21, 2016, 11:48:28 am
Is there a way to get rid of or at least reduce the "player lagging behind" problem? I want to play with Kalmars but they evolve into smth else when I drop the speed to one :P

I don't have the problem when playing with SGuards, obviously its because of the distance between me and the host, would a VPN fix this?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on March 23, 2016, 04:49:30 pm
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: ARN_ on April 09, 2016, 01:56:49 am
We are planning to start a new MP campagin on Sunday and want as many people as we can, anyone interested?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 09, 2016, 02:54:08 am
We are planning to start a new MP campagin on Sunday and want as many people as we can, anyone interested?

I would love to. NA player. You have me on steam already Arn. If you guys play like 5 ish your time, I'll be game.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Renay on April 09, 2016, 03:05:58 am
It's pretty cheap on Humble Bundle at the moment, is it worth getting? I enjoyed Crusader Kings 2, but I'm afraid I'm gonna sink too much time into it.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on April 09, 2016, 03:11:39 am
If you're afraid to sink too much time into it, don't buy it, the risks are real.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Renay on April 09, 2016, 03:30:09 am
But look at these sweet discounts  :shock:

https://www.humblebundle.com/store/p/europauniversalis4_storefront

https://www.humblebundle.com/store/p/europauniversalis4_dlccollection_storefront

If I didn't have exams coming up, I would buy immediately
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Mr.K. on April 09, 2016, 11:33:18 am
We are planning to start a new MP campagin on Sunday and want as many people as we can, anyone interested?

Pls. I need help backstabbing Arn! The more players the better and everyone's welcome.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Eddy on April 09, 2016, 12:32:13 pm
Sadly cant be there  :oops:
But propably i would´ve buttbuddied the swede anyways  :lol:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Butan on April 09, 2016, 12:37:40 pm
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/p/europauniversalis4_storefront

https://www.humblebundle.com/store/p/europauniversalis4_dlccollection_storefront

There was -75% promotion on those pieces on steam, until the 8th april  :?  you missed something bud.
But if you have exams really dont buy EU4.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Voncrow on July 28, 2016, 04:06:09 am
Been trying to run an Urbino ironman game. I keep running into problems where I can't really expand early mid game. The AE is a really bitch too. I'm gonna try my fourth restart, I'm early in my third and I was fucked over by an excommunication by the Pape.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Berserkadin on July 30, 2016, 07:42:03 am
LF people to play with
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Mr.K. on July 30, 2016, 05:55:37 pm
LF people to play with

We're still playing with some people and the more the better. Usually late night EU time. We're going to start a new game at some point when we finish the previous one. We'll be using Shattered Europa mod (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=342746678) and you can find us on the Merc ts: 176.9.48.138:9999
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Mr.K. on August 01, 2016, 03:32:27 pm
We finished the last game finally on Saturday. Players were:

Me: León
Arn: Sweden
Kiddius: Champagne->France
Avenge: Teutonic Order->Prussia->Rage quit
Grandmom: Florence->Tuscany->Italy
Blackbird: Bohemia->Poland->Great Moravia->Rage quit
Overlord: Byzantium

With the summer holidays, and people faking real life the game took forever, but in the end after multiple backstabs and secret alliances Sweden won by score and was also the largest power in the world. Next in score were Italy and Byzantium. France got ganked in the end by Leon, Italy and Sweden, Moravia and Egypt which made me very happy after losing the game to a similar gank by Italy, Sweden, England and Byzantium :)

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If anyone is interested in joining the next game with us, come join us in TS or send us a message. Everyone's welcome. Hopefully we'll get more than 10 players for the next one and the more the merrier...
TS: 176.9.48.138:9999
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Casimir on August 01, 2016, 10:15:45 pm
Someone buy me a PC and ill come and beat up Arn for you.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 02, 2016, 02:04:57 pm
If you all didn't play at bad EU times i'd join any time.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kidduis on August 03, 2016, 01:06:32 am
If you all didn't play at bad EU times i'd join any time.

We start  around 20,00 and play untill somewere around 04.00. Gmt +1 feel free to hop on ts and join in :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 03, 2016, 01:57:34 am
We start  around 20,00 and play untill somewere around 04.00. Gmt +1 feel free to hop on ts and join in :D

That's horrible time for me. 2 in afternoon. Weekends, it's fine(usually), just not during weekdays(based on times you listed, it sounds like weekends)

I've told arn bunches to invite me if the time is good. I tried to join last time but Kratos has potato.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Turkhammer on August 03, 2016, 05:02:01 am
We start  around 20,00 and play untill somewere around 04.00. Gmt +1 feel free to hop on ts and join in :D

What ts do you use?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Mr.K. on August 03, 2016, 05:44:03 pm
What ts do you use?

Mercs.  176.9.48.138:9999
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Latvian on August 04, 2016, 01:34:57 pm
Someone buy me a PC and ill come and beat up Arn for you.
you cant , he is too evil ( at least u enjoy seeing him dickbackstab me in the far past) :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Voncrow on August 06, 2016, 03:07:08 am
Bored so I'm gonna give an update on my fourth Urbino run.

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This one turned out just right, though I ran into some problems expanding because of my ally spain getting the Iberian Wedding, setting my southern conquest back a ways. Then I had to deal with my allies growing big and turning on me a lot like with Bohemia and Austria. Other allies would crumble like Hungary (Bohemia ate half of them at one point), Brandenburg and Switzerland. I came back and allied Hungary later to help them take back their old territory. BTW for the longest time Sweden/ Scandi has had a PU over the Commonwealth and have been fucking with me. I also spent too long playing the Emperor game and when nothing came of it I just formed italy to get to a King Rank. 10 years have passed in my game since this screenshot and pretty much most of what I've done has been Expanding my colonies in Malacca trade node and austria so I can attempt to get the territory in all continent achievement. Also finished eating Naples. Think I'll try go revolutionary and focus on Conquering Africa and the Pacific (Also France). I have ridiculous Development and Income to spend on colonies and what ever else. I control trade in the Venice and Genoa trade Node. Pretty much every province I own has a factory on it too. Probably a waste of money, but not I can grab an obnoxious amount of colonies and don't just wrack up too much money. Bohemia is currently the Emperor, although I believe he's still competing with Utrecht. I think I'm gonna go Revolutionary this game, never have before. At some point I'm gonna need to free the PLC, all my colonies I built the +2 force limit building, so I have a lot more force limit now, will probably make a move soonish.

ps: I miss the sweet sweet blue of Urbino. I haven't felt such regret since I went to puke green as Hannover from my beautiful Orange Hamburg.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
Post by: Kafein on August 06, 2016, 10:05:16 pm
I DID IT REDDIT

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