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Re: Europa Universalis IV
« Reply #60 on: December 10, 2012, 02:59:30 pm »
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Okay, call me an idiot, but one thing I really don't get are the battles.

How come that the AI always gets morale boosts while I don't? I mean it's almost like cheating, there is next to nothing on their morale bar, and they gain it back to 50% or even 75. I feel like being laughed at by the AI.

good question

dude, it is up to many thing like Legitimecy, Stability, War exhaustion, Discipline, Quality, Land/Naval Technology, Commander Skills and Military advisors. You can start making your quality the best at first  :wink: Then, try to reach more land/naval tech
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Re: Europa Universalis IV
« Reply #61 on: December 10, 2012, 03:01:07 pm »
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good question

dude, it is up to many thing like Legitimecy, Stability, War exhaustion, Discipline, Quality, Land/Naval Technology, Commander Skills and Military advisors. You can start making your quality the best at first  :wink: Then, try to reach more land/naval tech

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Re: Europa Universalis IV
« Reply #62 on: December 10, 2012, 03:07:10 pm »
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When I met the game first, I was really shocked by whole details of game. I was really not brave to declare a war against someone cos of some same reasons like yours(bad army morale). Then I pay Money for only land tech and weapon manufactory. This made me the best in land army cathegory. With this way, I could keep the war as long as I want(10,20,..,50 years) until my enemy gives up. So...
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Re: Europa Universalis IV
« Reply #63 on: December 10, 2012, 06:21:33 pm »
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Okay, call me an idiot, but one thing I really don't get are the battles.

How come that the AI always gets morale boosts while I don't? I mean it's almost like cheating, there is next to nothing on their morale bar, and they gain it back to 50% or even 75. I feel like being laughed at by the AI.
Military Drill, all the way. Fighting a faction that does have it while you don't is a pain in the ass. This morale boost, do you mean during battles? During a battle morale is shown as relative to yours, and normally it is shown relative to their maximum. So they can be at 50% of their maximum, with this 50% still being higher than your morale at 100%. I am always a big morale whore, cause that way you can beat way larger armies with smaller, and therefore cheaper to maintain, numbers.

Battles can be a fickle bitch though, with your army suddenly being wiped out by a very small force due to bad rolls, retarded terrain, funky morale or OP commanders.

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Re: Europa Universalis IV
« Reply #64 on: December 10, 2012, 06:32:32 pm »
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Military Drill, all the way. Fighting a faction that does have it while you don't is a pain in the ass. This morale boost, do you mean during battles? During a battle morale is shown as relative to yours, and normally it is shown relative to their maximum. So they can be at 50% of their maximum, with this 50% still being higher than your morale at 100%. I am always a big morale whore, cause that way you can beat way larger armies with smaller, and therefore cheaper to maintain, numbers.

Battles can be a fickle bitch though, with your army suddenly being wiped out by a very small force due to bad rolls, retarded terrain, funky morale or OP commanders.

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Re: Europa Universalis IV
« Reply #65 on: December 10, 2012, 07:07:33 pm »
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That side of the game varied greatly with the different extensions, and what I'm going to tell only is good for DW :

- In DW, war is all about killing the enemy faster than the enemy is able to kill you.

- When starting a tough war, don't go in enemy territory righ away.
- The key is to find a few well interconnected provinces with high defense bonus and surrounded with high support limit provinces on your side, bottlenecking the enemy attack.
- You need to station just the right amount of troops on the high defense provinces to make the enemy stacks attack those.
- When the battle begins the enemy is trapped with an attack malus, and now you can send massive reinforcement coming from your high support limit provinces, turning the battle into a bloodbath for the enemy, often wiping entire armies (I had 25k vs 300 victims in my favour this way once).
- Not getting your armies wiped is your first priority
- Avoid attacking. IMO an attack is "safe" only if you bring double the amount of troops the enemy has in the province you are attacking and in all the neighboring ones, also you need to bring a general.
- Enemy troops that are busy capping your provinces will stay there. You are better letting them alone.
- Time is on your side. If it is not, make peace.

For all these reasons, I always spec my country towards defense and quality.

Btw this also applies to fleets. Never ever risk losing one if you can avoid it.


About quick peace offers : the AI loves reducing your sphere so don't hesitate to put random countries in your sphere whenever you have high prestige (the smaller and the closer to you the better). You will be able to use them to make quick peace with AI thinking they are winning a war against you.


Btw, I didn't actually change my gov type by becoming the Kindgom of God
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Re: Europa Universalis IV
« Reply #66 on: December 10, 2012, 07:41:51 pm »
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AI gets morale boosts and all that jazz because to them, being human is already cheating.

Wait till you try and play on very hard. Not only will the AI units absolutely destroy you, but you will also be on everyones hit list. (I think they get +.25 Morale, you get -.25morale. Among other things with middle fingers painted on)

Example: I played England. Ate Ireland for free cores, declared war on Sweden to enforce a PU. During the Sweden War (They take awhile due to ai getting +100% defensiveness to all provinces) France, Burgundy, Scotland, Naples, Provence, and Brittany declared war on me. I beat back everyone except Scotland. Castille, Aragon, Portugal, and a few HRE minors declare war on me.

Now, being England this could EASILY be doable. Except for the Scottish Highlanders event being bugged. It is -supposed- to fire once every 6months. However, because for some odd reason this game hates my guts it has fired every 2 months since the start of the war. For those who don't know, Highlanders is a free 13 stack that spawns in scottish territory.

Because it is every 2 months, I can't effectively starve out that province. I basically need to wipe their army, then have enough troops left over to wipe their army again. All while hoping that the AI doesn't suicide rush my island again. (A favorite tactic of theirs, try and land troops from different boats while having 3-4 main battle fleets to distract my own fleets)

So, just remember, it only gets worse from here. =D

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Re: Europa Universalis IV
« Reply #67 on: December 10, 2012, 08:25:12 pm »
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So, just remember, it only gets worse from here. =D

Thanks for the inspiration.  :mrgreen:
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Re: Europa Universalis IV
« Reply #68 on: December 20, 2012, 08:05:02 pm »
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So I am trying to create a glorious African Empire with Portugal and I want to move my capital there. Apart from the glorious African Empire requiring an African capital I also have 7 European provinces compared to 45 African provinces, so it would be economically advantageous. Navy force limit of 31 ffs, all my tariffs are going to waste.

Does anyone happen to know the ins and outs of moving your capital? It told me that I couldnt move my capital cause my current capital as a big heartland around it. Should I lose all my European provinces or just a few? How do you lose them anyway? I thought you could sell them, but the button is greyed out everywhere. Is a core the only thing I need to move my capital?

Edit: Nevermind I got it. The capital needs to be isolated from any other owned province, I couldnt sell provinces cause I was at war and a core is the only thing you need. Africa is now named Portugal, sadly the 5 provinces I have left in Europe are not called European Portugal, would've been funny.
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Re: Europa Universalis IV
« Reply #69 on: December 21, 2012, 01:45:23 am »
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sadly the 5 provinces I have left in Europe are not called European Portugal, would've been funny.

If your european territory gets bigger it will probably show up :lol:

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Re: Europa Universalis IV
« Reply #70 on: January 13, 2013, 03:42:50 pm »
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This fucking game... I have it patched to the latest version, with all the expansions and whatnot... It crashes just a couple of years into any campaign, impossible to get past it... Seriously, fuck this POS.

Also, wtf affects colonisation time? The only campaign i've tried that doesn't run into an impassable CTD at some point is with Mali, but it is pretty much impossible to progress in, since, you conquer the few other tribes in your vicinity, but then are surrounded by wastelands and uncolonised regions, that you can't colonise, since the time for colonisation is like, 621332 days or so (wtf?) and you begin to constantly lose legitimacy and have nonstop rebellions, due to not being at war with anyone (because there is noone you can war with, doh).
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Re: Europa Universalis IV
« Reply #71 on: January 13, 2013, 05:52:54 pm »
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This fucking game... I have it patched to the latest version, with all the expansions and whatnot... It crashes just a couple of years into any campaign, impossible to get past it... Seriously, fuck this POS.

Also, wtf affects colonisation time? The only campaign i've tried that doesn't run into an impassable CTD at some point is with Mali, but it is pretty much impossible to progress in, since, you conquer the few other tribes in your vicinity, but then are surrounded by wastelands and uncolonised regions, that you can't colonise, since the time for colonisation is like, 621332 days or so (wtf?) and you begin to constantly lose legitimacy and have nonstop rebellions, due to not being at war with anyone (because there is noone you can war with, doh).

I think you need the westernisation event to happen to get decent options with african/american countries, google it, I don't remember the conditions and effects.

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Re: Europa Universalis IV
« Reply #72 on: January 24, 2013, 11:49:33 am »
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Have you guys noticed?

Paradox gave people free EU3 chronicles steam keys!

I guess it's related to a forum or whatever, but it's a very nice gift. Thank you so much Paradox.

I started a new Hungary game as well, decided to play the inheritance, Personal Union minigame a bit more, not pissing off the entire world, etc etc. It's going very well!

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So far I had/have Unions with

Croatia (you get this at start in the mod, no biggie)
Serbia, who I integrated already
Poland
And recently, the game gave me a mission to form an union with Bohemia, lols. Which I also did!

Fear the Hungarian powerhouse, haha

Currently I'm having a bit of a manpower problem, in another Hungary game this went away when I mass conquered, are there other ways to solve this? I don't want to piss everyone off, being more diplomatic is awesome.
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Re: Europa Universalis IV
« Reply #73 on: January 27, 2013, 12:09:07 pm »
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Have you guys noticed?

Paradox gave people free EU3 chronicles steam keys!

I guess it's related to a forum or whatever, but it's a very nice gift. Thank you so much Paradox.

I started a new Hungary game as well, decided to play the inheritance, Personal Union minigame a bit more, not pissing off the entire world, etc etc. It's going very well!

(click to show/hide)

So far I had/have Unions with

Croatia (you get this at start in the mod, no biggie)
Serbia, who I integrated already
Poland
And recently, the game gave me a mission to form an union with Bohemia, lols. Which I also did!

Fear the Hungarian powerhouse, haha

Currently I'm having a bit of a manpower problem, in another Hungary game this went away when I mass conquered, are there other ways to solve this? I don't want to piss everyone off, being more diplomatic is awesome.

When you will grow bigger and after a few dozen years, all the AI will be like "Human with many provinces, must killlll..." no matter how friendly you are, except your vassals.

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Re: Europa Universalis IV
« Reply #74 on: January 27, 2013, 12:50:44 pm »
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When you will grow bigger and after a few dozen years, all the AI will be like "Human with many provinces, must killlll..." no matter how friendly you are, except your vassals.

I see.

I just ate Bohemia recently, and took the holy lands, that kinda stuff.

Might be a sound strategy to do some mass recruiting at this point, to secure borders up home while I'm conquering down there then.
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