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Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
« Reply #735 on: June 25, 2015, 03:26:28 pm »
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can i in new version build a wall on borders  while playing like a hungary?  :P
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Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
« Reply #736 on: June 25, 2015, 03:53:31 pm »
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can i in new version build a wall on borders  while playing like a hungary?  :P
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« Reply #737 on: July 24, 2015, 02:30:11 am »
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Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
« Reply #738 on: July 24, 2015, 05:19:45 am »
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dat papal state doe. :shock:
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Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
« Reply #739 on: July 29, 2015, 04:31:30 pm »
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Tuscany is stronk, I ended with 1769 total development for my empire (not including vassals / clients).

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Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
« Reply #740 on: July 29, 2015, 04:44:52 pm »
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Tuscany is stronk, I ended with 1769 total development for my empire (not including vassals / clients).

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Also are we going to start a new one any time soon?
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Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
« Reply #741 on: July 29, 2015, 04:55:54 pm »
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Casimir nub, Italy got terrible ideas compared to Tuscany.

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Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
« Reply #742 on: July 29, 2015, 05:06:05 pm »
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Casimir nub, Italy got terrible ideas compared to Tuscany.
Depends what you want :P
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Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
« Reply #743 on: July 29, 2015, 05:27:14 pm »
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Nothing nubish about it, : A.) Gets rid of occupation of Rome which allows me to gain papal influence again. 2.) Tuscan ideas are good but Italian ideas are better suited for a large empire / more rounded IMO. 3.)It's a better flag which is more suitable for the later game. 4.) Easy transition to monarchy which allowed me to pick up noble ideas and take up absolute monarchy.

Traditions:
Tuscany -10% Development cost +1 Yearly papal influence
Italy +20% Global trade power +50% Better relations over time
Italy traditions are more useful especially if your empire is growing rapidly (helps drop AE penalty and no development investing late game)

Idea 1:
Tuscany: -5% Technology cost -5% Idea cost
Italy: -10% Stability cost modifier
Not much to say here, i had completed most ideas and was well ahead on tech, although arguably Tuscany has the stronger idea here

Idea 2:
Tuscany: -20% Mercenary cost
Italy: +15% Infantry combat ability
No debate, infantry ability is superior in every way especially as my economy was so fucking solid.

Idea 3:
Tuscany: -1 Interest per annum
Italy:-15% Galley cost +20% Galley combat ability
Again my economy invalidated the need for loans and this ensured my dominance of Mediterranean seas.

Idea 4:
Tuscany:+1 Yearly prestige
Italy:+33% National manpower modifier
No brainer, i get all my presige from fighting bundle of stickss i don't need the drip feed.

Idea 5:
Tuscany:+15% National trade income modifier
Italy:+15% National tax modifier
Tuscany has the favour here as trade by far was the greatest part of my empire, however i had plenty of trade bonuses and tax is more stable when you are at war.

Idea 6:
Tuscany:+10% Production efficiency
Italy:+1 Yearly prestige
Obvious favour again for Tuscany ideas as production is more useful than prestige feed unless your a pussy.

Idea 7:
Tuscany: +25% National manpower modifier
Italy:-25% Core-creation cost
Tuscany has the edge here but invalidated by idea 4 IMO,  and core reduction cost is super useful for late game expansion.

Ambition:
Tuscany: +5% Discipline
Italy:+20% Fort Defense
Tuscany ambition has a slight edge but not a large one as 5% isn't particularly significant, it would have been more useful to me however as my forts were almost never besieged.

For me it's a 5:4 splint in favour of Italy ideas and add to that the new flag, monarchy and free prestige / autonomy decrease it made sense at the stage in the game i'd reached.

Tl;dr: Ur nub!
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Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
« Reply #744 on: July 29, 2015, 05:28:25 pm »
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Almost as good as mine in the mp game

Also are we going to start a new one any time soon?

Been pretty busy the last couple weeks with uni graduation and such, should be free for the next few though if we can organise some.
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Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
« Reply #745 on: July 29, 2015, 05:36:29 pm »
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Mmh yeah, it seems it's at least a much more balanced choice now. In some previous version the Italian ideas were kind of crappy.

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Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
« Reply #746 on: July 29, 2015, 06:43:09 pm »
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Mmh yeah, it seems it's at least a much more balanced choice now. In some previous version the Italian ideas were kind of crappy.

Italian ideas =/= Italy ideas, Italian ideas are the starting ones for the minor Italian powers (Siena/Ferrara/Mantua) and they are fairly trashy.  I don't know if they changed the Italy ideas in recent patches but they seem to have good synergy and make sense for a larger empire while the Tuscan ones are clearly favoured towards a smaller / emergent power.

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Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
« Reply #747 on: July 29, 2015, 06:50:47 pm »
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Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
« Reply #748 on: July 29, 2015, 07:22:32 pm »
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Only because they have nothing worth taking from them  :wink:
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Re: Europa Universalis General Thread
« Reply #749 on: July 29, 2015, 08:26:31 pm »
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