A while back i decided id had wanted to get CKII, but then i realized that it was like 200 hundred dollars for the damn game with all the stuff not on sale. I like paradox's games, and i understand the whole extra development thing, but half the crap they add to the game should have been in it from the start, because it makes sense. I also dislike the whole "this feature is unavailable without X dlc" part in the game where you can see it, yet cant use it, so it just bugs the hell out of you. cough cough half the CKII map.......shit, you even see it in EU4 with stuff like support independence, or republics and whatnot.