Generic
- added new Rageball game mode
- disabled ladders in non-Strategus game modes
- enabled upkeep for construction objects
- decreased ranged damage, increased headshot damage
- reverted 2h right swing delay
- increased left swing blocked stun for 1h, 2h and polearms
- teamwound text does not trigger anymore on 0 damage hits
- teamwound text shortened
- teamwound notification only displayed at 3+ penalties
- fixed teamwounds to the player's being ignored
- fixed crash when writing :{ in admin chat
Items
- added several new helmets
- added Deadly Semi-Invisible Fauchard
- added monk and priest robes
- Great Axe can now be used on horseback
- decreased Mace speed and damage
- increased Longbow accuracy
- increased Ashwood Pike price, decreased damage
- increased Desert Horse and Arabian Warhorse hit points
- several other minor tweaks
Strategus
- fixed AI buying lots of junk
- fixed cavalry spawning near the enemy
Website
- improved website graphics and layout
- improved messenger
- improved battle display
- added biography field for mains
- added regional setting for date and number formatting
- added Sacrifice function (consume an alt to transfer his heirlooms on the main)
- hidden temporary character created when namechanging
firstban dis gai!
revert 2h right swing?bunch of 2h pussies crying all dayon all the other fixs very good job
devs can you guys restart the server with the latest patch so i can join my strategus battle?
Edit:
One problem though, my Google Chrome cannot seem to display the new character page, I get an 'unknown page' message even after pressing Ctrl-F5?
Need to test out 1h left swing on block. Hope it's not too bad.
Otherwise, nice update!
havent played yet, is archery dead???
DAED SI DOM
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".DAED SI DOM"
is an anagram of
"I MADE DDOS."
added christo on the to-ban list for distributed denial of service terrorism.
ban dis gai!
revert 2h right swing?bunch of 2h pussies crying all day
The Fauchard is NEVER 182 long. ingame its shorter than my 166 ashwood pike, but the site says its 182!
- added Deadly Semi-Invisible Fauchard
No, it does not even have this "ghost-range". Tested it with a friend....
Why can't I transfer looms from my alt to my main if I'm higher level? I don't see what difference it makes. I worked just as hard for the looms as if I was on my main.
Well then it's weird... :?
Perhaps it's a special feature, concerning cavalry in a certain way or the like? :?:
feature/bug :lol:
- decreased ranged damage, increased headshot damage
I love that people rage at a CHANGELOG regarding a patch that hasn't even been released yet and wonder why they are not taken seriously.
- increased Ashwood Pike price, decreased damage
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i'm ok to ask archer to be more skilled and use head shot ...
but since 2 patch all archer i know are ok to say than lot of arrows cross bodies
for me 40 % of my arrows should hit but nothing happen ...
so plz do something ... (i will report too in the good section)
i'm ok to ask archer to be more skilled and use head shot ...
but since 2 patch all archer i know are ok to say than lot of arrows cross bodies
for me 40 % of my arrows should hit but nothing happen ...
so plz do something ... (i will report too in the good section)
Good job devs, i really like the new game mode, really fun and satisfying when you land 1 of those long range passes :D
I wonder whats the point of biography. Can i read other players biographies somewhere?It is meant for strategus v2 where links to heroes/main chars a more common and you can put not just your bio in there but anything (trades, what you can craft, etc.). Right now it is a bit hidden, but you can access it by opening battle details and clicking on a name (or bookmark this shortcut (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfofaction), you need to be logged in with your main).
omg rageball is like heroin
Joker, having no opinion on the nerf or whatever, but isn't a pike supposed to be support weapon only? I've never heard of any pikemen in history fighting outside formations.
Joker dear, rageball is a new gamemode.
Joy, I went into the site manually instead of using my old bookmark and now it seems to work.
I just noticed that pikes were made unbalanced.
THIS MOD ALIVE
- decreased ranged damage, increased headshot damage
Oh lookie another range nerf, what a surprise
90% of archer kills are non-headshots, so hopefully the damage decrease isn't too extreme :(.
Any percentages on the buff for headshots and nerf for everything else?
I love the new website and always excited to see bug fixes and new items :) thanks devs
But why'd they have to switch the values around
Devs are trying to bring skill into archery.
now ranged hates people who haven't changed their fundamental playstyle, just so they can lug around a shield, even more.
Still don't one-hit kill with headshot from long bow and bodkins at short range (like 4-5 meters)
You just meganerfed Archery and all the fun :(
Punch damage is boosted by gauntlet weight now. The heaviest gloves do about 3x times as much damage to an unprotected target now, killing peasants in about 4 hits. Another thing is that you can at least interupt armored victims with a punch, doing about 1 or 2 points of damage - at least with the heaviest gauntlets.
formular is secret
good, now i can create a dedicated puncher char, like the real bashibazouks. gentlemen, meet ottoman slap!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AblRi7zH10
I lost all my previous messages (the market trade messages etc.) on c-rpg.net I would like to have them because they were very important for me, cuz I needed them in oder to contact some people which I borrowed money to, and some have changed names and stuff like that.
I have to say it, this was one of the worst patches of all time, seriously. You took something beautiful and just threw it right out the window. I was like the only person who wore the Nordic Pot Helmet, now you changed the model and all now the gimps are coming to steal my baby, I WORE NORDIC POT HELMET BEFORE IT WAS MAINSTREAM.
I'm not sure what to think about the archerynerf.
I think reducing bodydmg is fine, but can't you chage it to something like 70-75% instead of 64 or 67, whatever we have now.
It is kind of ridiculous, that people with 8 bodyarmour can survive a shot from mw longbow, mw bodkins, 7pd and 8wm.
I don't want to oneshot or twoshot everyone, that isn't balanced or realistic either, but 2 arrows for a little peasant? ....
Btw, what did +1 accuracy change for longbow? I can't aim longer than before :/
Archers got two options, Get more str and sleep easy getting body shots. Or pump agi and spam for headshots.
- disabled ladders in non-Strategus game modes
You killed the mod... Again
its simple :) aim for the head if your good and if your not great then archery is no longer easy :P
I have to say it, this was one of the worst patches of all time, seriously. You took something beautiful and just threw it right out the window. I was like the only person who wore the Nordic Pot Helmet, now you changed the model and all now the gimps are coming to steal my baby, I WORE NORDIC POT HELMET BEFORE IT WAS MAINSTREAM.I used it occassionally myself and new model looks like crap.
since i'm braindamaged i can't find anymore the pictures of the new helmets, could anyone post the link to taleworlds forum again?i got it, for other braindamaged guys
3 hits point blank with my MW Arbalest to chest at kuyak armour and no kill?
4/5/6/hits to get a kill with my MW longbow?
No ladders for siege?
I play Archer class because i find it great fun pew pew but they always get nerf after nerf, where as i get 1shot from melee always.
On seige theres now lots of choke points, so archers can all shoot at it, which in turn will piss players off and result in another archer nerf.
Please help sort this without more archer nerfs thx
Aim for the head, god damnit.
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point click kill :D i have a gen 2 archer alt and have had many stf archers. it isnt that hard.
:D so hitting a head on a moving target at 50/100 yards is easyer than spamming a 2h, just shhhh.
Yeah my bad but all the my old friendarcher talk gets to me :oops:
Anyways the odds of a dedicated archer and his hammer with no ps blocking indefinately untill backup arrives is small
Well, y'know you can, ehm, kinda, actually, BLOCK melee attacks and fight back.
Also, you keep calling "2h spammers" when spammers are the easiest opponents to beat.
In other words: If you have trouble with 2h spammers then there is a serious l2p issue here...
Then grab a horn/yumi and a proper 1h instead and put some points into ps? Y'know, now it's actually not only viable but encouraged.Yeah, horn bow is just... encouraged.
The l2p issue is when 2h/pole "spammers" think they're the embodiment of skill.
Well, y'know you can, ehm, kinda, actually, BLOCK melee attacks and fight back.
Also, you keep calling "2h spammers" when spammers are the easiest opponents to beat.
In other words: If you have trouble with 2h spammers then there is a serious l2p issue here...
Horse archers wiped out a whole crusader army
Then grab a horn/yumi and a proper 1h instead and put some points into ps? Y'know, now it's actually not only viable but encouraged.
A runcher going 22/2?
NERF ARCHERY.
NAO.
and you know you can kinda um, DODGE arrows ?Dodging arrows is purely based on luck. And since archers can attack you from any distance, not the same. At all.
and by spammers i meant people wearing armor so heavy that they dont bother to block and while people glance on them they just kill them afterwards ;]
Dodging arrows is purely based on luck. And since archers can attack you from any distance, not the same. At all.
I'm currently melee btw. Knowing that those arrows hardly hurt me really does help, knowing their ability in melee is next to nothing (can't get enough PS, PD, ath to be working build)
Aim for the head, god damnit.
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so if i have an alt with heirlooms and a main which i want to keep, then i can consume my alt and get my looms from my alt to my main without my main being deleted?
thx in advance
This. And: The Fauchard is NEVER 182 long. ingame its shorter than my 166 ashwood pike, but the site says its 182!
Anyway, great patch as always :)
Yes, but you need to retire your main first.my main is gen 6, is that alright?
Your main character needs to be regular (no skip the fun) and level 5 or lower.
As you know, people who wear new helmets are headless. My question is: does it really take so much time to fix it?
everybody cryes on archery but look on xbow ..kill peasant with arbalest 2 bolts ??? ...where are we ? :/ ..now its much more difficult to fight against archery when u need to hit them 3 times or more..they will not give u chance to reload, it was fair balance between damage advantage of one acurate shot and speed of reloading..but now...i think x bows should be as they was. Build for profesional medieval snipers ..
i got it, for other braindamaged guys
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=76943.0
Dodging arrows is purely based on luck. And since archers can attack you from any distance, not the same. At all.
There is no armor so heavy that you don't need to block. Like Dezi said, it's a case of l2p.
Read the instructions on the site, why dontcha?and BTW, can you still sacrifice if you are above gen 1, if so, then i need to retire first and now i get your post thx!
Archers were professionals, xbows use spread fast because you didn't need much skill to be good at it.
Thats why the difference in difficulty between bow and xbow use in this mod.
I disagree archers are obviously fast runners, can reload while running, speedy reloading, more accuracy, much more ammo, against Xbows. We need have decent armour against archer maschinguns, so we are not so fast, we cant run and reload, we are realoading on the spot so much slower, less ammo . so who have much more advantages Bow vs. Xbow ??. we have only one advantage, it was decent damage - now as i feel it while playing today rapidly decrease. so dont talking about archers are much more skilled.
Okay, only topfhelmets don't work now.
This must be a joke.
If you are wearing 50 or more total body armor, you will never block against a guy with a pickaxe. Never.
You start blocking only in case if the guy actually does damage/stun in his attack.
So don't bs us, ok?
Xant with a pickaxe vs Aljo now GOGOGOGOGOGO!!!111oneoneone
EU3?lol, btw: Thanks you for skrewing over throwers!
- fixed AI buying lots of junk
Archery is dead.
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Archer going 22/2.
Your argument is invalid.
Archer going 22/2.
Your argument is invalid.
All I see in that pic is an archer stealing all the team kills. :rolleyes:
Archer going 22/2.
Your argument is invalid.
EU3?
So one picture of one person proves everything for you?
Oh you poor narrow-minded person....
I was in that game, dude.
I saw it with my own pair of eyes. Check the screenshot, see something similar in the low left corner? I just had to go when he took it.
Plus, there were other archers on during that time, who did very well too, had a nice amount of headhits.
What makes you think that I'm narrow minded? Bring on the insults when you can't say anything proper.
You "narrow-minded" person.
Xbow needs a buff. As a peasant with 4IF and naked I was 2-shot in the chest with MW arbalest using MW steel bolts from mid range. This should have definitey been a oneshot. Throwing needs a buff, my MW throwing daggers take twice as many to kill now. Archery can stay the same as point blank range archery is viable with enough athletics.
Archery is dead.
In my opinion nerf is over the top. Sure take out the ladders im pretty sure most decent archers dont mind but making it only possible to get kills by headshotting people has surely made this the most difficult class around. Now were just fodder for the already dominating cav and spammers.
Ladder removal, great. Nerfing Archery to beyond use, not so great.
decent patch
SAME SHIT game mode rules and community who accepts them.
battle 2 men left, 1v1.
1 guy (heavist armour and heaviest shield in the game) reachs flag first, holds right mouse button while the other guy (xbowman) hits his shield 50 times. he wins the round, just for standing there slightly sooner. I rage and people think i'm the douchebag.
I mean it should have at least been a draw, even then i would still kick the guy. but victory? who the fuck designed this shit, and why do people think its fine.
cant be arsed with such bad game design.
decent patchi dunno about douchebag,but you are pretty funny.
SAME SHIT game mode rules and community who accepts them.
battle 2 men left, 1v1.
1 guy (heavist armour and heaviest shield in the game) reachs flag first, holds right mouse button while the other guy (xbowman) hits his shield 50 times. he wins the round, just for standing there slightly sooner. I rage and people think i'm the douchebag.
I mean it should have at least been a draw, even then i would still kick the guy. but victory? who the fuck designed this shit, and why do people think its fine.
cant be arsed with such bad game design.
i play crpg as archer since one year now and since my begining archer get nerf on everypatch... now it's like a tradition to get nerfed on each patch ... i'm curious to know what will be the next nerf ???
remove arrows and bow then spit on players ?
seriously just fix hit box since 3 patch there is so many arrows who should hit but nothing happen ....
Ho, btw, to all those whining about archery being dead :
How many shielders does it takes to kill 3 archers ? To simplify, suppose the terrain is completely flat and infinite. Also suppose that a full quiver of arrows can take down one shield
I think you need to learn what the crossbows look like then. I was one shot by a MW Arb with MW steel bolts wearing unloomed Lamellar, leather gloves, and 7 IF. So there is no way you survived two hits with a MW Arb and MW steel bolts while naked.
The change to crossbow damage was a good thing. I've seen good crossbow players do really well, even with the change.
+1 to the Dev. team for this change.
ITT: good archers doing better than usual, bad archers sucking.
Working as expected.
You've 4-5 shotted my champ plated charger before so stfu, more nerfs ftw.
ITT: good archers doing better than usual, bad archers sucking.
Working as expected.
so explain me why we was 3 archer on a cataphract, we put on him something like 10 arrows before he die ???
(counted on dead horse bodie)
It is totally retarded as it makes things like arbalest and longbow, made for high damage and longrange shots, totally useless. Tell me how I shall precisely hit the head when I shoot over long distance?? And no, I consider long distance as really long, not the 20 meters most people are always talking about. I mean long when the person I aim at is smaller than my reticule
- added monk and priest robesYeah finally... :mrgreen:
I was in that game, dude.
I saw it with my own pair of eyes. Check the screenshot, see something similar in the low left corner? I just had to go when he took it.
Plus, there were other archers on during that time, who did very well too, had a nice amount of headhits.
What makes you think that I'm narrow minded? Bring on the insults when you can't say anything proper.
You "narrow-minded" person.
Especially in strat battles with short bows :rolleyes:
Just because everyone aims for the head now doesn't mean they are suddenly better or that only the better archers survive. It's not that difficult to hit a head in crpg.
Now it is just sniping archers or fastbow spamming archers. Was that intended? Great
Btw, I didn't really see any longbow users saying "hey nice patch"
Would actually be pretty cool to raise longbow speed by 1 or 2 points so you have at least a chance to aim before your reticule starts growing
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not a medieval bow.
archers are for softening up melee troops, not slaughtering everything they see
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not a medieval bow.
Hes simply Jelly, look at any archer related posts he made :D
I don't want to be a fucking sniperarcher but this retarded new patch is exactly trying to make us all snipers
I don't want to be a fucking sniperarcher but this retarded new patch is exactly trying to make us all snipers
Oh, what's the problem? You actually have to aim your pew pew bow?
Ah, I see you bring up realism a lot of times.
Well, let's see, if this would be based on total 100% uber realism, your precious arrows would bounce off of any plate armor, unless you use a Longbow, and Bodkins. Still you'd need damn luck to kill someone with it.
While a melee strike in reality (in a common archer "armor") would instantly render you useless on the battlefield, therefore you die.
No, this patch forces you to actually aim at your targets. It forces you too practise your awareness and get skilled. This patch ended the amount of noob archers, that think rooftop camping and spamming arrows into crowds makes them good.
Yeah skill bla bla, it's same as asking for melee to always hit head as well then. "Just aim in head nubs".
I never played pew pew the way I played, but I don't expect much from you anyway
Ah yeah, I forgot you are an expert on medieval weaponry etc cause you play a computergame. Sorry, my bad. Of course you can still walk with 2 arrows in your chest, how can I forget that
Yeah skill bla bla, it's same as asking for melee to always hit head as well then. "Just aim in head nubs".
Says the rusbow archer
Well I'm playing melee currently and it's just piss easy to run straight at archer. Taking 2-3 arrows in chest while engaging (no need to dodge) and still have over half hp in my health bar when I'm wearing hardly any armour? That's "ok" then? I see, you are playing melee as well but just want to top some scores and do it easy way. Sorry but I want to have some challenge and realism.
Well I'm playing melee currently and it's just piss easy to run straight at archer. Taking 2-3 arrows in chest while engaging (no need to dodge) and still have over half hp in my health bar when I'm wearing hardly any armour? That's "ok" then? I see, you are playing melee as well but just want to top some scores and do it easy way. Sorry but I want to have some challenge and realism.
Rememebr that Archery is meant to be a support class.
And 2h people without cover are meant to be the killers or what? If someone has no shield he has to die to arrows. I have a little hammer so I have to die to big swords etc.
Well I'm playing melee currently and it's just piss easy to run straight at archer. Taking 2-3 arrows in chest while engaging (no need to dodge) and still have over half hp in my health bar when I'm wearing hardly any armour?
jambi being mad means this archery nerf needs another
I leave them and focus on direct threats to the team instead, like a support role should do.
For people like you Christo it seems to be easy, telling intelligent things like "adapt to it". All you have to do and all you are actually doing is complaining and whining until the desired effect has been implemented.
:lol:
That's all I want to say.
Get rid off that stupid scoreboard and I have no problem with being a supporter.
Cheers
I already know you are pathetic, nothing to prove anymore ;)
You can laugh about it as much as you want Christo. It is my opinion and this game is not a melee game. That is something most of you guys seem to forget every second minute...I just can't take the person seriously anymore. There were even funnier lobbyism lines, but I can't find them right now.
Get rid off that stupid scoreboard and I have no problem with being a supporter.
But as long as people are trying to compare their epenis with all the others and measure people's skill on the amount of kills they do, I want to kill people, too.
For people like you Christo it seems to be easy, telling intelligent things like "adapt to it". All you have to do and all you are actually doing is complaining and whining until the desired effect has been implemented.
Last time I checked melee have to get close range and their attacks don't get through blocks.
Last time I check ranged has to make it through shields
Right, I forgot about melee's ability to hit through shields... oh wait.
so explain me why we was 3 archer on a cataphract, we put on him something like 10 arrows before he die ???
(counted on dead horse bodie)
more nerf if u want but i rly dont care like i said we get nerf on every patch ... i just want they fix hitbox !!!!
imo they should nerf some maneuvrer stat for some horse, a real horse cant turn around him so fast ...
oh btw if someone can explain me how some xbower can reload xbow faster than i bent my rus bow .....
plz put power draw on xbow !!!!!!
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not a medieval bow.
Haha, Must be.
Oh, what's the problem? You actually have to aim your pew pew bow?
Aww :/ Poor fella, not getting such easy kills anymore.
Stop QQ-ing against the change, and adapt. Archery is.. even more deadly now in good hands than before.
Ah, I see you bring up realism a lot of times.
Well, let's see, if this would be based on total 100% uber realism, your precious arrows would bounce off of any plate armor, unless you use a Longbow, and Bodkins. Still you'd need damn luck to kill someone with it.
While a melee strike in reality (in a common archer "armor") would instantly render you useless on the battlefield, therefore you die.
I top scoreboards all the time, bla bla bla bunch of crap bla bla in the long run hopefully.
As usually, Cristo, your answers are full of your overconfidence in knowledge (it's funny how usually the most stupid people think they are the smartest).
Now you are talking about realism.
Arrows bounce off armor if not shot from direct front, any hit from more than 60 degrees angle usually bounces of plate.
Not to mention hitting in between the joints of armor.
Or that one arrow to torso can usually stop a person (at least injure heavily if not kill).
Or on other hand when plated guys starts swinging at an archer and kills him eventually if help doesn't come- so no stamina implemented there where it should be the most.
Don't talk about realism if all that you know is based on some kids book.
What about that pickaxe duel?
Like I said, I'm no expert. But I brought up stupid "realism" arguments to show Gisbert, that how wrong he is for bringing in realism into cRPG balancing thoughts. Also, nice way to call me stupid, so subtle. However, I was only using the realism thing as a counter argument.
Gisbert should be happy that his bow actually registers damage from any angle, and distance. Because if it'd be realistic, that wouldn't be the case.
You misunderstood my point with the realism thing, it was not meant to be accurate; Just a bit.
Nor was it about bragging of my "overconfidence of knowledge", as you say.
Hehehe, saw Xant on EU like 30 min ago. He was running around with pickaxe and heraldic transitional, lol.I've never had a character above level 31.
Sure, duel is still on. Can do it in the weekend, got too much work in class right now.
And if we are doing this duel, he has to make archer stf with like few PS, no 1h wpf and no IF.
That is what we were talking about, correct? Not fighting a 1h char lvl 33 or something, lol.
Thats completely different picture :lol:
I've never had a character above level 31.
So now I need to make an archer STF with few PS, no 1h wpf and no IF? Somebody getting scared? :D
The original argument was that there are these heavily armored 2h spammers who just kill everybody without blocking because everyone glances on them. http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,24144.msg349424.html#msg349424
But sure, I'll make the STF. Will convert it to a thrower later. 4 PS, 50 wpf, no if, 5 athletics.
Edit: wait, weekend? You have time to type on forums but you need to prep for the fight 4-6 days? Daym, must be one hectic schedule if you can't take 15 mins break. And yet you could play on EU1 just now! Go figure, right? Also, I suppose you'll be using exactly 51 armor and not blocking or what?
Ok, dumbass.
I will explain everything so your impaired mind gets this.
Lvl 33 thing was sarcastic.
Original argument was about archers not being able to do anything about plated guys when they engaged them in melee, read the fucking topic again- last few pages were about archers and their melee capabilities.
I have a fucking holiday today, MLK Day. That is why I could take an evening off.
My college schedule isn't as flexible as your elementary one so I must adapt- something might come up with my organizations so I cannot make any plans during week.
Now you can stick that duel up your arse, you arrogant prick.
Fuckload of crap.
I can only judge what I see written, I cannot see what you were thinking.
If you meant something else with that statement, I apologize.
But make your thoughts more subtle next time, ok? :wink:
sacrifice.
Well, son, it takes hard work and sacrifice.
Even a casual player can retire every two weeks.:lol:
Even a casual player can retire every two weeks.
yes, when you play at least 6 hours a day and having luck with the multiplicator.
Even in the crappiest armor and a longbow + bodkin arrows I lose gold every round with lvl 29
I don't like this patch. Cav is too strong and archers are weak like sh!t now.
3 hours sitting behind PC every day to play the same game over and over is hardly casual.Yeah. I'm playing 1-2 hours per weekday max.
Ok, I see. We have different things in mind when we say casual. If I would only play 3 hours a day, I´d call myself casual, because 3 is really not much for me. Days when I only play 3 hours is when I have ALOT stuff to do for university and such.
in rageball everybody should respawn after you score a point.It would basically become deathmatch until one team is left and then they score a point with no enemies left.
Body shot nerf was not needed in the slightest. Removal of ladders would have been enough.
It certainly screwed over all other ranged. HA has very little chance of getting headshots since the original HA nerf, the HA skill needs to be fixed to compensate. Otherwise the damage decrease in body shots particularly sucks. Throwing is even more useless. Crossbows are now completely fucked in the rain.
Devs really need to use their brains a little bit more. Introduce one change at a time. Remove ladders and see how that pans out. If another nerf was needed after (I honestly doubt it would have been) then so be it. But right now it was over kill and hurt a lot of classes simply because infantry are a bunch of bloody pansys and couldn't stop whining.
Edit: And to those using Jambi ect as examples of archers doing well, they are bloody good archers, they will always do well. Balance by the average player, not by the best.
Ranged can now one-shot anyone, why all the crying?
This path is huge success, listening how all archers and xbowmans are crying is priceless. :DSame thing as how you guys whine bout range, but you guys were first to whine than anyone else.
any eta on helmets hotfix?
DIYconfirmed it work?
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,24252.0.html
confirmed it work?
yerpty alot
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Body shot nerf was not needed in the slightest. Removal of ladders would have been enough.Agreed 100%, fuck pure infantry, fuck normal archers! Don't kill off three builds to nerf one, jerks. (I'm a light armored throwing lancer btw (who at times wear full plate).
It certainly screwed over all other ranged. HA has very little chance of getting headshots since the original HA nerf, the HA skill needs to be fixed to compensate. Otherwise the damage decrease in body shots particularly sucks. Throwing is even more useless. Crossbows are now completely fucked in the rain.
Devs really need to use their brains a little bit more. Introduce one change at a time. Remove ladders and see how that pans out. If another nerf was needed after (I honestly doubt it would have been) then so be it. But right now it was over kill and hurt a lot of classes simply because infantry are a bunch of bloody pansys and couldn't stop whining.
Edit: And to those using Jambi ect as examples of archers doing well, they are bloody good archers, they will always do well. Balance by the average player, not by the best.
this game just gets more retarded with each new patch. chadz and the dev team should go find a different mod ruin
Why would you play this when you can afford anything else?I don't share your point of view.
why would you want them to play it just makes them more biased?
Tbh this happens every big patch. The the dev team realizes how stupid they are and then backpedals on most of the archer nerfs that they call a patch
And whats the deal with nerfing 1/2 hand weapons every patch along with nerfing archery, First the fighting axe, then the langes messer and now the mace. Next they will nerf the supremely overpowered military sickle.
If you keep nerfing 1 slot weapons then hybrid archers will become the most useless class in the game just like the horse archer
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Yeah, the length is bugged (~40 invis. reach), but we noticed too late. Will be fixed in tomorrow's hotfix.
Get rid off that stupid scoreboard and I have no problem with being a supporter.
But as long as people are trying to compare their epenis with all the others and measure people's skill on the amount of kills they do, I want to kill people, too.
And whats the deal with nerfing 1/2 hand weapons every patch along with nerfing archery, First the fighting axe, then the langes messer and now the mace. Next they will nerf the supremely overpowered military sickle.that one already had been nerfed also a while back :lol:
visitors can't see pics , please register or loginNot really I am not a archer,I have a archer alt but dont play it much.I use a shield,archers dont bother me much at all unless theres a lot in one area, cavalry on the other hand I find a whole lot worse and even more so when several are running you over in tandem.
...I have a archer alt but dont play it much.And you really won't be playing it much after this patch!
And you really won't be playing it much after this patch!That or I might just respec it so it has 3 power draw and 10 athletics and use the shortbow so at least it cant be caught. :P
Removing ladders for archers is akin to removing horses for cavalry.
Can someone explain why ladders were removed from reg game play? Even as a defender i luv seeing those things come up on the walls, just looks awesome.
Get a fast bow and aim for the head and you will swear archery was just buffed
Say, how about fixing the headless people, you know, easy hotfixing with the launcher and all.
Best patch ever! :D
Devs, Keep Up The Good Work.
Give higher up crossbows arbalests either more bolts to work with,either give us a slightly tighter reticle so that the wiggle room from bolts isn't so god damn common, even at 150 WPF. Or bring our damage up a bit. I should not be having to two shot a guy in rags with a MW arbalest and bolts especially when I only have 13 shots to work with.
3!!!!!!!!! Loomed heavy throwing axes in an archers back and he still runs away?
3!!!!!!!!! Loomed heavy throwing axes in an archers back and he still runs away?
The idea of nerfing bodyhits on ranged ... ok - but thats just exaggerated and unrealistic. Nerfing Ranged should not be based on damage... Try the duration in which you can shoot acurate or something....
C-rpg was a semi realistic medieval fighting simulation. Now its just a playground for dorks with sharp 2 handers and invulnerable archers :(
im not amused.
everybody cryes on archery but look on xbow ..kill peasant with arbalest 2 bolts ??? ...where are we ? :/ ..now its much more difficult to fight against archery when u need to hit them 3 times or more..they will not give u chance to reload, it was fair balance between damage advantage of one acurate shot and speed of reloading..but now...i think x bows should be as they was. Build for profesional medieval snipers ..
It is totally retarded as it makes things like arbalest and longbow, made for high damage and longrange shots, totally useless. Tell me how I shall precisely hit the head when I shoot over long distance?? And no, I consider long distance as really long, not the 20 meters most people are always talking about. I mean long when the person I aim at is smaller than my reticule
Actually, the best thing that could ever happen is if they took out the Rain Effect. Or NOT EVEN the whole effect just the Drastic change to the arc of the shot from a crossbow. You can keep your rain damage nerf.
I can adjust my shots pretty well, but since you can't be sure if it's raining or not sometimes, it gets really annoying when I have to change my play constantly for the first few shots of every other map(Even when it's not raining visually, you realize really fast that it is when your shot goes awry). Especially when every shot is so critical for crossbowers when you have to take so long to reload. Having a reload interrupted is devastating to a crossbower. The average xbowman does not realize that utilizing every second of the round is key. Getting off as many shots as you can before they close the gap is everything. It changes it from a guaranteed death from being swamped by too many players to giving yourself a chance with eliminating 1 or 2 out of the 6 coming at you, before being forced into melee.
I don't see the game messing with any melee/cav swing/thrust speed/arc each map change. You have that group of players getting more and more solid with their play because it remains constant. If the stupid missile speed/arc effect was removed I would finally be 100% happy with playing my class even with the damage nerfs. Then I could concentrate on improving my play like every other non-crossbow player in this game.
As an archer, I feel I have the right to bitch about the nerf in body shot damage (although, I'm almost at 9PD with a longbow and bodkins; pretty sure I'm still hitting decently hard), and it's generally never a good idea to aim strictly for the head. I think the nerf was unnecessary. I'm sure a good majority would agree. But to continue with my point, as much as I hate Pigeonteeth and every other goddamn arbalest player in this game, for Christ's sake, give them some love. I should not be able to take two steel bolts in the chest with 0IF and leather armor. It's absolutely crazy.
Someone already mentioned that most players are aware enough to intelligently juke around and keep away from an arbalest, but without the high damage, the reload speed and high upkeep makes them look pretty sad. Throw ping into the mix and I'd hate to be an arbalest user even more.
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1 throwing lance takes 80 % of my health in lordly rus lamellar cuirass and lordly lamellar gauntlets, so its fine.Must've been before patch, a full strength build, without loomed armor, with a kuyak, could take all four lances in the chest before he fell dead... it isn't fine.
Any way to fix the female voice-over commands? :(
Stop whining about lower arb. dmg it was annoying to get fucking 1 shot by an arb in the body area, a lethal headshot is more than enough
I don't Complain about How OP heavy cav....
Stop whining about lower arb. dmg it was annoying to get fucking 1 shot by an arb in the body area, a lethal headshot is more than enough
i was not saying nerf the archery but unnerf throwing... really... the build im using for over 5 gens now has just became useless. that sucks. And thats all im saying.This isn't the first time throwing has been nerfed to uselessness, I'm sure it will be fixed.
i was not saying nerf the archery but unnerf throwing... really... the build im using for over 5 gens now has just became useless. that sucks. And thats all im saying.Do what this guy says!