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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: Bittersteel on July 13, 2013, 02:45:14 pm

Title: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on July 13, 2013, 02:45:14 pm
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Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard ya hit. It's about how hard you can get it and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done! Now if you know what you're worth then go out and get what you're worth. But ya gotta be willing to take the hits, and not pointing fingers saying you ain't where you wanna be because of him, or her, or anybody! Cowards do that and that ain't you! You're better than that!


I believe in you, all of you.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tyr_ on July 13, 2013, 05:14:57 pm
Could we please use this as the one and only flame thread? It is very annoying to check 3-4 different threads to read over all the drama ppl make, having only one would be way more efficient. Also it already has the appropriate title.

Also, I'll leave some comments here so ppl get in the mood to go this this thread

Honestly Intermezzo, Mercs has always been retarded on the forums. Not meant as an offence what-so-ever. But if you look at all the past strat rounds (and the faction thread when they were "the best clan in the world") and check posts from Merc members, it's quite hilarious. :P

What I don't like with Mercs is that they are so much full of themselves, now that don't count for all of the members, it's mostly the old members that think they are unbeatable.

can say the same about you^^

For the Greys: Are you coordinating all this little clans that attack us right now? If yes you have my deepest respect, when they were our allies they made much more trouble/effort than they were worth....

Also Heskeytime, if we would post a bulletin it would be done with some of noctis awesome artwork in it, not only text :D

The only ones who are winning Strategus are those not playing it.

how true
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on July 13, 2013, 05:18:20 pm
LET IT BEGIN
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 13, 2013, 05:26:14 pm
So far enjoyable to see all of this coming, i was getting worried we would never see something like this happen this strat.
1/3  of the eastern block is now under fire, and a few thousands have only died so far, that means this war has only just begon  :mrgreen:

Happy to see that we are on the defending side for a change, 50-80k xp per tick for all my members on the walls  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on July 13, 2013, 05:34:12 pm
Ah, i see your point Haboe. Well good luck! And you Heskey, have you sided with anyone in this war? Moved any troops? Hmm?

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tyr_ on July 13, 2013, 05:40:07 pm
I remember talks about you guys sandwitching Wolves after you were done with the remaining factions of UIF (hey suckers, 3 major factions quit the game entirely, yet you couldnt finish them off and Drz/GO was sleeping, not even trading or nothing). I also remember complaints from some Merc member about Wolves being "put" neighbours with Mercs. Also during the war Mercs itembombed the shit out of Slezkh Castle (which is totally superduperbullshit), respecced their villages to sabotage them.

And nobody saw this coming? Really?

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We never itembombed Slezkh castle, we just attacked it^^

And it was obvious that wolves would backstab us, all i wondered was if they would try it on their own or wait until a big factions starts binding our resources somwhere else, which greys are currently doing.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 13, 2013, 05:43:41 pm
Well, if someone can convince cmp to unmute ginger from the forum we could have a great flamingwar, untill then, you will have to settle with me i'm afraid   :twisted:

Although wars are won on the map and in the battles, most of the roleplay we can do in strat comes from the forum  :P

And granny is doing a good job on the conquer topics, but i do miss kinny's forumcrap. As where granny is only gloating when he wins a battle, kinny had better roleplay with so many contracts, defencepacts and schemes in the shadows.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 13, 2013, 05:44:41 pm
can say the same about you^^

If I'm compared to Jambi (when he represented the Mercs) Gingerpussy, Nocti, DaveUKR, Olwen (when he represented the Mercs) I will cry and seriously think about what I am posting.

You're pretty naive (and obviously havnt read the threads) if you deny that the Holy Forum Warriors of the Mercs posted some wierd shit. :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tyr_ on July 13, 2013, 05:46:46 pm
I never denied it, i just said that one should not ignore his own mistakes ;)
And about jambi - i dont want to insult you man, no one can be compared to him^^
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 13, 2013, 05:47:03 pm
We never itembombed Slezkh castle, we just attacked it^^

And it was obvious that wolves would backstab us, all i wondered was if they would try it on their own or wait until a big factions starts binding our resources somwhere else, which greys are currently doing.

Really? My mistake.

I wouldn't call it a backstab unless you had some sort of bulletproof agreement? Agreements are meant to be broken anyway :wink:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 13, 2013, 05:47:21 pm
If I'm compared to Jambi (when he represented the Mercs) Gingerpussy, Nocti, DaveUKR, Olwen (when he represented the Mercs) I will cry and seriously think about what I am posting.

You're pretty naive (and obviously havnt read the threads) if you deny that the Holy Forum Warriors of the Mercs posted some wierd shit. :P

The old ones had some awesome weird shit yea :P

But i would not compare anyone to jambi... I wasn't in mercs back then, but from all the story's told... sheeeeet  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 13, 2013, 05:48:28 pm
I never denied it, i just said that one should not ignore his own mistakes ;)

Your opinion. My own is that I've never done anything wrong in my life and will never do one. Nor have I made mistakes and I would be very suprised if I made any in the future :wink:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tyr_ on July 13, 2013, 05:49:15 pm
yeah, we had an agreement.

Ps: plan seems to succeed, hope i dont have any other thread than this one to check when i want to laugh at tomorrows breakfast!
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 13, 2013, 05:50:05 pm
Recent months I don't have anything against Jambi, actually think he's a nice guy. Back then yeah he posted some wierd stuff (probably trolling from his part), it was a good read. Tbh Gingerpussy is the mental case :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 13, 2013, 05:55:11 pm
Maybe a bit late in the topic, and i might have missed some shit, but who is bittersteel? :oops:

And did he declare war with this topic, or simply opened a topic about the war?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on July 13, 2013, 06:00:19 pm
The question is who are you? I'm a legend in this community, right guys? Guys? I'm not sure what i did until now. Let my 100 unarmed men haunt you until the end.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Silicium on July 13, 2013, 06:35:27 pm
The question is who are you? I'm a legend in this community, right guys? Guys? I'm not sure what i did until now. Let my 100 unarmed men haunt you until the end.
You only my legend babe, let's get it rocking tonight and be funky (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VTK3MYzdEn4)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 13, 2013, 06:45:47 pm
A load of good battles tomorrow, with some luck we get another siege in the evening, but i doubt it.
Maybe kapi will attack another field army, would be cool as well  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on July 13, 2013, 06:57:21 pm
You only my legend babe, let's get it rocking tonight and be funky (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VTK3MYzdEn4)


Did i ever mention i love you?

A load of good battles tomorrow, with some luck we get another siege in the evening, but i doubt it.
Maybe kapi will attack another field army, would be cool as well  :mrgreen:

That's the spirit. Enough with the quarrel! Just send your armies towards eachother and make love.


This song is making me weird Silicium
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Silicium on July 13, 2013, 07:05:21 pm

Did i ever mention i love you?

That's the spirit. Enough with the quarrel! Just send your armies towards eachother and make love.


This song is making me weird Silicium
No, but i'm inviting you to it.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on July 13, 2013, 07:17:54 pm
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So basically how i understand it, everyone have gone to war against Mercs cause they used to itembomb?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 13, 2013, 07:55:04 pm
Nah, we never itembombed slezkh, we did 2 attacks in a row, then usually put a 1 day break on it. Might be that they had no fief owner in there, but thats their bad then ^^

They are attacking us because of the greys, they seem to be so in love with us that they can't stand to stay away  :)

EDIT:

And the wolves have always lured for the snowlands, thats a part of why they are involved.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on July 13, 2013, 08:01:59 pm
This seems to be more serious than i tought... you'll have to make an appointment this tuesday 8 PM. And you are sure it is not a solution to negoiate a peace offer?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: jtobiasm on July 13, 2013, 09:20:32 pm
I don't know why people get so offended and upset about strat, pretty sad tbh.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on July 13, 2013, 09:53:17 pm
Keep quiet about it around here
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Perverz on July 13, 2013, 11:04:26 pm
boring.........go out and  fuck something
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on July 14, 2013, 12:19:21 am
Ah, i see your point Haboe. Well good luck! And you Heskey, have you sided with anyone in this war? Moved any troops? Hmm?

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Hmm?

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 14, 2013, 01:01:52 am
Recent months I don't have anything against Jambi, actually think he's a nice guy. Back then yeah he posted some wierd stuff (probably trolling from his part), it was a good read. Tbh Gingerpussy is the mental case :P

Ginger is not mental, he's just an old fart and old farts have a tendency to be provoked by young insolent farts. :lol:

BTW, who cares what is being said. The important thing is who has done what! Now, I don't know anything about that so don't call me out on stuff Mercs have done, because I wouldn't know any better. ;)

Anyway, the only reason we play Strat is because of the battles, we should thank people for waging war on us. It is also a joust of e-peen, and you know how much I love e-penis. Yum!
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on July 14, 2013, 01:27:49 am
i cant express how nice it feels to finaly play siege defences instead of those endless attacks :) thank you for finaly crawling out of your fiefs and putting up some fights.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 14, 2013, 01:31:26 am
i cant express how nice it feels to finaly play siege defences instead of those endless attacks :) thank you for finaly crawling out of your fiefs and putting up some fights.

Is that supposed to be funny? :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on July 14, 2013, 01:52:57 am
Is that supposed to be funny? :P
that is supposed to be joke of the year  :twisted:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: woody on July 14, 2013, 02:04:48 am
All this bollocks from the mercs - you dumb fucks you attacked us when we were your allies.

That does not impress people. You forced the CFA to allie with greys.

Reap what you sow fuckwits.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 14, 2013, 02:30:49 am
All this bollocks from the mercs - you dumb fucks you attacked us when we were your allies.

That does not impress people. You forced the CFA to allie with greys.

Reap what you sow fuckwits.

Trololol, not sure how kinngrimm informed his members, but we were not the initiators nor the first attackers in that war of the steppes :P (or whatever basnak named that war)



As for the rest, i see here ppl being wondered about this topic being so mild, its because its a general topic. In battle/faction specific topic i like to roleplay, in a topic like this, despite being called war  on apostates, there is not really much roleplay potential. By many roleplay and flaming/ raging has a lot of overlap, or are seen as the same thing. The only succesfull stratplayers are the ones that can keep that seperate most of the time, since they come to this forum to roleplay rather then to whine and rage.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Noctivagant on July 14, 2013, 03:16:18 am
If I'm compared to Jambi (when he represented the Mercs) Gingerpussy, Nocti, DaveUKR, Olwen (when he represented the Mercs) I will cry and seriously think about what I am posting.

You're pretty naive (and obviously havnt read the threads) if you deny that the Holy Forum Warriors of the Mercs posted some wierd shit. :P

Excuse me?
oh about Jambi I thought you said something else, yes when you are drunk you write quite absurd things on forum sometimes it has ended with :

I was to hasty with my words, I agree. I just needed to calm down, which I have :)

see
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Falka on July 14, 2013, 06:19:04 am
The only ones who are winning Strategus are those not playing it.

how true

Participate in strat battles (yay! so much fun! and xp :P), don't give a flying fuck about strat map = epic win! :P

Oh, and where is Leshma's sig...

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<Urist> There is no moral high ground in strat. The amount of autism, dedication and criminal energy that it takes to be a strat faction leader makes em all most likely guilty of something.

And one more thing, something that shouldn't be forgotten :P

Quote from: Harpag
I play this game for over a year, but a week or maybe two weeks ago, I persuaded housemate to a common game (he only looked earlier) - the effect - I just discovered the ban. Unban me and him, or go to hell.

Our whole house supports one router - even I do not know how many computers the router supports. This is what you are doing is a serious abuse.
Quote from: chadz
Just for the record- last round more than 100 greys logged in from one IP. Over one hundred warband keys from a single household. Your fucked up sense of fairness is what forces us to take steps like this in the first place. So would you kindly get rid of this attitude?
http://forum.meleegaming.com/closed-requests/ban-18528/

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Perverz on July 14, 2013, 07:48:33 am
All this bollocks from the mercs - you dumb fucks you attacked us when we were your allies.

That does not impress people. You forced the CFA to allie with greys.

Reap what you sow fuckwits.

very impressive speech keyboard ninja!
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tuetensuppe on July 14, 2013, 12:22:48 pm
All this bollocks from the mercs - you dumb fucks you attacked us when we were your allies.

That does not impress people. You forced the CFA to allie with greys.

Reap what you sow fuckwits.
time to throw an old link into the arena :)
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmnbp9_der-untergang_videogames#.UeJ7322x7cs (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmnbp9_der-untergang_videogames#.UeJ7322x7cs)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: BarBeQ on July 14, 2013, 01:01:07 pm
Make Love not War  :evil:
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: ProLuX on July 14, 2013, 01:03:33 pm
Make Love not War  :evil:
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awesome gif  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on July 14, 2013, 01:53:17 pm
This thread is starting to look like a clown orgy.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Nightmare798 on July 14, 2013, 01:58:07 pm

I believe in you, all of you.
that guy in quote is taking himself too seriously, this a video game ffs.

P.S : please tell that guy from quote to visit this site: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/USI
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on July 14, 2013, 02:00:17 pm
Have you been sitting in your moms basement  so long that you have forgotten what a joke is? None of this is to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on July 14, 2013, 02:37:24 pm
Oh shit! They're on to me.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 15, 2013, 11:41:38 am
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4411


Lol, this only happens vs wolves  :D
Took them 524 shiny troops to take a naked village, needing a forward spawn to keep the pressure and ofc they managed to lose that forward spawn  :lol:

Was very enjoying, it's been a while since we got funbattles with ultra light gear  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 15, 2013, 11:59:19 am
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4411


Lol, this only happens vs wolves  :D
Took them 524 shiny troops to take a naked village, needing a forward spawn to keep the pressure and ofc they managed to lose that forward spawn  :lol:

Was very enjoying, it's been a while since we got funbattles with ultra light gear  :mrgreen:
1336 naked troops only happens vs mercs :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: vipere on July 15, 2013, 12:09:10 pm
dans la section diplomatie, ces jours ci :

- "vous êtes mauvais"

- "Non c'est vous"

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Fixed in french for Bjerd because of bad english
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 15, 2013, 12:20:11 pm
Threads those days, in Diplomatic Forum

- "You Noob"

- "No you"

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Fixed.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 15, 2013, 12:48:18 pm
Threads those days, in Diplomatic Forum

- "You Noob"

- "No you"

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Work on your English, because that's not really the gist of it. ;)

I know how hard English is for you French sissies, but at least try to learn.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: vipere on July 15, 2013, 01:06:40 pm
non

Fixed ( modifié et arrangé )
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 15, 2013, 01:22:39 pm
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4411


Lol, this only happens vs wolves  :D
Took them 524 shiny troops to take a naked village, needing a forward spawn to keep the pressure and ofc they managed to lose that forward spawn  :lol:

Was very enjoying, it's been a while since we got funbattles with ultra light gear  :mrgreen:

Another fief lost and another 1300 tickets + 600k gold......getting to be a bad habit Hobit..eh...im sorry...getting to be a bad habit Haboe
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Fips on July 15, 2013, 04:31:35 pm
Another fief lost and another 1300 tickets + 600k gold......getting to be a bad habit Hobit..eh...im sorry...getting to be a bad habit Haboe

Oh you, trying to disguise this huge failure of yours.  :P

From those 600k you got, you probably already lost half of it during the course of failing in battle.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 15, 2013, 04:46:44 pm
Oh you, trying to disguise this huge failure of yours.  :P

From those 600k you got, you probably already lost half of it during the course of failing in battle.

Fips, do you live on another planet, and in that case, how are things over there?

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on July 15, 2013, 04:54:26 pm
The embarrasment is not that you lost the gear for all the troops nor the tickets themselves. Strategically speaking it was still a victory for you.

However, there is no doubt about the huge embarrasment of losing 600 heavily armored troops to 1300 peasants, we were surprised and elated when we started to kill you, even drive you out of the village.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Fips on July 15, 2013, 04:56:53 pm
Fips, do you live on another planet, and in that case, how are things over there?

On my planet peasants killed 550 shiny equipped warriors who are celebrating their "success". Weird, i know.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 15, 2013, 05:02:49 pm
And loosing a village, castle and a city in 5 days is success?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on July 15, 2013, 05:15:28 pm
Stop it Tyrone.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Fips on July 15, 2013, 05:17:14 pm
And loosing a village, castle and a city in 5 days is success?

Well, it's not bad. But i was just here to throw a little salt in the wound of todays battle. I will leave the trashtalking to Merc and Wolves from now on.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 15, 2013, 07:52:45 pm
Well, it's not bad. But i was just here to throw a little salt in the wound of todays battle. I will leave the trashtalking to Merc and Wolves from now on.

Srubs
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on July 15, 2013, 11:03:54 pm
And loosing a village, castle and a city in 5 days is success?

How many men did you lose compared with what you gained?

It seems to me that you believe that 'history is written by the victors' however at what cost? How many men died storming those walls, how many attacks did it take until you finally slaughtered your way in?

Once you look at the figures for both sides then we will continue to talk over whom are the real winners and losers.

The fact remains that a group of 'peasant's managed to wipe a shiny man army, you can hide this however you want but the embarrassment will always be on record, it shall be known as the new Thermopylae (however this time we won) :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 15, 2013, 11:26:48 pm
God, you EU's whine like shit.  Did it already on the NA side. Armed with CUDGELS only and we killed 750  heavy kuyak HoC's. And we fought to the end.
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=1836

It's not hard to kill the enemy once you can steal their weapons :twisted:

(It's not fuking hard to do)
I mean like seriously: http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattleroster&id=4309
275 enemies to 1450 Defenders(with a less than stellar castle). Don't brag cause you did it. Having someone fighting against you is infinitely more hard than you think. Go try and wipe a peasant army. Watch how many casaulties you actually take.
(also that fallen battle where they had ONLY horses and bumped someone to death to then get a weapon to end up winning....)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 16, 2013, 12:39:40 am
Wipe? So you mean you killed all the Wolves? :O

Wow, that's really impressive... over 1000 Wolves in shiny armour all dead? :O

The village is still yours? :O

...I see Wolves aren't the only ones exaggerating here lol.
 
They took a city in 3 assaults. They actually nearly achieved a 1 for 1 kill/death assaulting a CITY! Lol, i mean.... that's a loss in your reckoning? I don't remember Uxkhaul being taken in.... well... any of the assaults. Yalen took how many waves of Greys before Templar lost it after a heroic defense? Cities in this game guzzle up armies like nothing else. And Wolves took it by assaulting three times, of which they only lost 1 assault? Once to kill over 1000 defenders, then winning the 2nd raid, then killing the 2000 pop with 1000 men. They only lost 1/3 of their attacks on Rivacheg, i'm sorry but claiming that Wolves sacrificed too much to take that city is hilarious, i don't think arrogance and smack talk even covers that kinda denial. But hell, i'm sure that's just propaganda spread by Wolves, not like we all saw it happen.

Say what you will, but at the end of the day- prove me wrong, take Rivacheg back with fewer men. I double Heskey dare you.

Thats how you look at it. I look at it slightly different, it took them 3 army's to take down a 1500 men garrison. On top of that they gained 0 population.
All about perspective :)

And thats why i dislike about granny, he open a topic for each victory he makes, but the cotgs assaults where it takes them 1800 men to kill 600 are ignored completely ;)
I saw a cotgs cheer today, that they managed to kill 800 in a siege (using 1800)

So yea, the losses from the cfa side (or whatever they call themselves now, not even sure it still exists) are rather significant.

It's hard to controle a load of fiefs like the apostates have, considering the backstab, and the gank by 8+ factions, i'm still pleased with the current state.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 16, 2013, 12:48:26 am
How many men did you lose compared with what you gained?

It seems to me that you believe that 'history is written by the victors' however at what cost? How many men died storming those walls, how many attacks did it take until you finally slaughtered your way in?

Once you look at the figures for both sides then we will continue to talk over whom are the real winners and losers.

The fact remains that a group of 'peasant's managed to wipe a shiny man army, you can hide this however you want but the embarrassment will always be on record, it shall be known as the new Thermopylae (however this time we won) :D

Rivacheg:
We lost exactly 3758 men while the defenders lost 4710 men
It took 3 attacks
We won 2 of those

Bulugha:
We lost exactly 2336 men and killed 2063
it took 2 attacks

Since we started to attack one week ago:
we lost exactly 9019 troops and killed 10124 men
Gained one castle and one city and two villages

Your point?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 16, 2013, 12:51:21 am
Thats how you look at it. I look at it slightly different, it took them 3 army's to take down a 1500 men garrison. On top of that they gained 0 population.
All about perspective :)

And thats why i dislike about granny, he open a topic for each victory he makes, but the cotgs assaults where it takes them 1800 men to kill 600 are ignored completely ;)
I saw a cotgs cheer today, that they managed to kill 800 in a siege (using 1800)

So yea, the losses from the cfa side (or whatever they call themselves now, not even sure it still exists) are rather significant.

It's hard to controle a load of fiefs like the apostates have, considering the backstab, and the gank by 8+ factions, i'm still pleased with the current state.

Remember u being very keen on updating Basnaks thread on K/D of the battles in the last war Haboe.......untill u started loosing.....for some reason
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 16, 2013, 12:56:27 am
Yea, we didn't have our brilliant chart system back then, so was interesting.

After a while we had to negotiate peace, so i spared you the humiliation of displaying further stats (you know, for the peace you decided to break ;))

You can check the slezkh castle if you like, a castle that was fully prepared and geared all the time, 7700 losses our side, 6700 losses your side  :mrgreen:



Edit
I love the new chart thing btw, haralds work no?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 16, 2013, 01:27:58 am
Yea, we didn't have our brilliant chart system back then, so was interesting.

After a while we had to negotiate peace, so i spared you the humiliation of displaying further stats (you know, for the peace you decided to break ;))

You can check the slezkh castle if you like, a castle that was fully prepared and geared all the time, 7700 losses our side, 6700 losses your side  :mrgreen:



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I love the new chart thing btw, haralds work no?

We could do this all night Hobbit, if u like but for starters lets correct you:

We lost 7908 and u lost 9219 in the slezkh castle sieges, and we werent prepared and  we had one marketplace and u had the element of surprise (much like we did now only we actually took something)

During the whole duration of that war we lost 14731 soldiers, we at the same time killed 16808

In this, is included the first surprise attack on the 3000 tic wolves army that the steel axis anihilated while they were moving hardly armed to curaw.

Your point?

btw thanks for sparing me  :mrgreen:

I could add that in overland battles we count we need 3 armies to take down 2 of yours - u are doing those well I can give u that - but otherwise u seem quite killable wouldnt u say Hobbit?



Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: BASNAK on July 16, 2013, 02:53:11 am
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on July 16, 2013, 03:17:42 am
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bavvoz on July 16, 2013, 08:06:30 am
Rivacheg wasnt lost so easy coz of the surprise, it was lost so easy because i havnt been able to take care of her for a few weeks due to some very bad happenings irl lately. If any1 is boasting over that victory i really think u take this way to serious.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tactical_One on July 16, 2013, 12:25:39 pm
Well as i see it now clans have plenty active players so they will be huge troops increase (like 1k /day), troops are significant factor when clans are rich enough to equip them.

But castles and towns are important since you need a lot of logistic effort to capture them.

So as far i see Wolfes are winning the war, although i doubt they could make more progress than they already did.
Yet they propably wont lose castle and city they already taken. Mercs would need like 30 k troops to spare on north. And it still could be not enought.

Sargoth altrought seems to be big failure for attackers. City will take thousands of attackers before fall , perfect place to defend. I dont think that Coalition will manage to make diffrence here it seems they had been stopped by kapikulu. Crusaders have deserts war with Druzina. Donno what axis will do.

Im waiting for moment when clans will have problem with money to equip troops :)And when war continues silver may become factor again. Some clans involved have some great equipment issues. One really shiny army it's like 2 mln silver.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tyr_ on July 16, 2013, 02:08:48 pm
One really shiny army it's like 2 mln silver.

300k gold per 1000 man, including siege gear and heavy cav^^.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tactical_One on July 16, 2013, 02:26:20 pm
300k gold per 1000 man, including siege gear and heavy cav^^.

Donno if princes risen or something but 300 k silver would give very poor equiped army

1 man:
300 s- (like Milanesse plate with huge discount)
100 s- gloves
100 s- helm
50 - boots
200 s - weapon (1h + shield, or 2 h , bow or x-bow)
750 gp for one troop. so when you eq 2000 troops you have 1,5 mln.

And you need to add aditional eq like polearms, horses etc and it will be more less 2 mln.

I would like to see armies for 300 gp per troop :)then i will know that factions are short on silver.
War would become even more intresting :)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 16, 2013, 02:32:52 pm
300 k gives full shiny 1000.

Grey corrazina, expensive weapons, warhorses (or siege equip).
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 16, 2013, 02:43:29 pm
Bonus when defending is that you need about 2 sets of good equipment, and it can last 5 waves if you just have tickets in there...

Looking at sargoth for example, cotgs did a load of assaults, not being able to spend all gear. Making us loot a lot.
On top of that you lose less as defender, so you don't need much gear to begin with, and even the gear you do use you get back for 50% -2 loomlevels.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Lennu on July 16, 2013, 03:16:41 pm
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Shut up! This is a drama thread, and you're supposed to be throwing more gas into the flames! Not trolling!



And Grandmom, think what would have happened if there had been decent gear in that village? It would have been a prison rape  :lol:
Still, Apostates did give away a village far too easily. But at least it gave us the best strat battle I've even been so far.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Lizard_man on July 16, 2013, 03:28:16 pm
Karluks, maybe next time you could attack my army at a decent time, only managed to gather 14 players... :|
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on July 18, 2013, 04:56:20 am
are you fucking serious?

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4468

do you even sleep at all? why the fuck would someone make battle this early in the mourning?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on July 18, 2013, 04:58:34 am
are you fucking serious?

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4468

do you even sleep at all? why the fuck would someone make battle this early in the mourning?

Thank god, NA players can finally get some good EU XP. We're undisciplined rabble with unloomed gear, so we are hungry for your XP.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 18, 2013, 05:29:55 am
are you fucking serious?

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4468

do you even sleep at all? why the fuck would someone make battle this early in the mourning?
I doubt Tony was 100% stationary and GO had an unlimited timeframe to attack him...
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on July 18, 2013, 05:48:26 am
I doubt Tony was 100% stationary and GO had an unlimited timeframe to attack him...
one thing is to start traveling evening and traveling all night, other is to wait for someone and attacka t 6 in the morning ( for me)
what is the point of this? i though strategus was meant so everyone can participate in fights, how many people can participate in this fight? Americans and nolifers who dont sleep early in morning, i would like to play this abttle but it is too early, and i leave to work about this time. Good game grey order...
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 18, 2013, 07:55:03 am
Merc Tony was going to reinforce Sargoth, he moved during the night to avoid being attacked - I would have also in his place.

But since the Forces of Freedom attacking Sargoth wasnt interessted in yet 3 more sieges they had to somehow attack Tony, night or day. And if Tony wanted to bravely fight his way thrue enemylines and reach the castle - he could have done so at another hour during the day. Like Zlisch said earlier, the window for an attack wasnt big.

But fact is, the only area where Mercs actually can move freely is between Ismirala Castle and north up to Alburq - its like a little merc-reservation - outside of that area its game on so they have to move nighttime.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Lizard_man on July 18, 2013, 09:19:31 am
Actually, Tony hasn't moved since around 9 PM...
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 18, 2013, 10:00:44 am
Your point being? His target would still be Sargoth, would it be a smart move to give him 16 hours more to move before someone would take him down?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on July 18, 2013, 10:20:05 am
Your point being? His target would still be Sargoth, would it be a smart move to give him 16 hours more to move before someone would take him down?
so you are saying that you rather have fucked up battle with 90% NA than actualy have fun and xp playing it by yourself only because you want to win 1 battle in browsergame?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 18, 2013, 10:20:26 am
Your point being? His target would still be Sargoth, would it be a smart move to give him 16 hours more to move before someone would take him down?


is just that some people actually have a life and actually have jobs, which mean they can live
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 18, 2013, 10:45:03 am
is just that some people actually have a life and actually have jobs, which mean they can live

Im actually one of those people, at work now btw :)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 18, 2013, 10:47:59 am
so you are saying that you rather have fucked up battle with 90% NA than actualy have fun and xp playing it by yourself only because you want to win 1 battle in browsergame?

I have fun anyway, dont play much strat battles - cause I have a job and a famlily - fun for me is making plans and watch them play out, seeing one of the biggest and cookiest clans in strat getting runover by a bunch of small clans good enough for me :mrgreen:

Payback is a bitch isnt it?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 18, 2013, 10:51:24 am
I have fun anyway, dont play much strat battles - cause I have a job and a famlily - fun for me is making plans and watch them play out, seeing one of the biggest and cookiest clans in strat getting runover by a bunch of small clans good enough for me :mrgreen:

Payback is a bitch isnt it?

When did shu han and grey order become small clans?

Don't get me wrong its a neat gank by some smaller clans, but if not for those 2 factions you would have been wiped from the field by now ;)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 18, 2013, 10:52:55 am
I have fun anyway, dont play much strat battles - cause I have a job and a famlily - fun for me is making plans and watch them play out, seeing one of the biggest and cookiest clans in strat getting runover by a bunch of small clans good enough for me :mrgreen:

Payback is a bitch isnt it?

Damn right we are the cookiest clan

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Teeth on July 18, 2013, 10:58:05 am
Lol, this only happens vs wolves  :D
Took them 524 shiny troops to take a naked village, needing a forward spawn to keep the pressure and ofc they managed to lose that forward spawn  :lol:
Don't get too excited about it. You know why I often drop down to a tribal warrior outfit in battles where there is little ranged? Because light armour isn't technically any worse than heavy armour. If I am in a Tribal Warrior Outfit fighting Milanese Plate with a Longspear, I do about twice as good compared to fighting them in Milanese Plate. Not saying the Wolves handled it perfectly, but once you get a hold of an enemy weapon, you are able to kill with ease.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 18, 2013, 11:02:37 am
Don't get too excited about it. You know why I often drop down to a tribal warrior outfit in battles where there is little ranged? Because light armour isn't technically any worse than heavy armour. If I am in a Tribal Warrior Outfit fighting Milanese Plate with a Longspear, I do about twice as good compared to fighting them in Milanese Plate. Not saying the Wolves handled it perfectly, but once you get a hold of an enemy weapon, you are able to kill with ease.

Thats because a Long spear is easy to avoid contact with, use a 4 Direction weapon that dosent have the length and you will quickly go back to milanese
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 18, 2013, 11:10:17 am
You know, bec easymodespam in a croud wearing milanese.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 18, 2013, 11:11:50 am
Steel pick with huscarl shield spam in a crowd even easier mode
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on July 18, 2013, 11:29:16 am
When did shu han and grey order become small clans?
Don't get me wrong its a neat gank by some smaller clans, but if not for those 2 factions you would have been wiped from the field by now ;)

Yeah, so brave Mercs  :rolleyes:  Don't fool around  :)  You should be happy that somebody else has done for you a decent war you campmasters pfff, although I must admit that you are better than Coalition... at least you didn't slaughtered industrial quantities of white randoms  :lol:

PS  Don't mute me again for no reason you bastards  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Teeth on July 18, 2013, 11:42:16 am
Actually I am usually more impressed by Coalition led battles than Apostates battles.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 18, 2013, 11:43:38 am
Yeah, so brave Mercs  :rolleyes:  Don't fool around  :)  You should be happy that somebody else has done for you a decent war you campmasters pfff, although I must admit that you are better than Coalition... at least you didn't slaughtered industrial quantities of white randoms  :lol:

PS  Don't mute me again for no reason you bastards  :rolleyes:

I figured after uxkhal it was your turn to take some action :P

I'm happy to see you all attack now, but too bad it has to go the way of sargoth (constant nightbattles and such shit)

If you just make your raids at 19:00 you have room for 3 decent followup battles.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Fips on July 18, 2013, 11:50:53 am
Actually I am usually more impressed by Coalition led battles than Apostates battles.

We definitely had some very exciting fights some time ago with you guys. Tomas, Rogue or Ramses are great commanders and just fun to fight with.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 18, 2013, 11:59:58 am
When did shu han and grey order become small clans?

Don't get me wrong its a neat gank by some smaller clans, but if not for those 2 factions you would have been wiped from the field by now ;)

Interessting u should say that, Greys havent joined in the north until now, and Shuhan hasnt at all. So, basically ur saying that u would need the troops from Dhirim Area to counter us up here? Wouldnt at least 35k troops or so from ismirala and north be enough to hunt us down? And the Greys didnt really enter the north until the Coalition did when they came to help when u screamed for help......

We anticipated you would make some sort of counter somehow, somewhere, but nope - honor to Idzo, the only one of u that charged north at all.

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on July 18, 2013, 12:09:29 pm
My impression is that overall level of difficulty of all battles is growing. That's good. We all have more and more experience. Personally, I have great pleasure when I see how both sides are trying to tactical maneuvers on battlefield.
Awesome. I feel that I've been waiting for this for a long time  :)


We apologize for night attacks, but the strategy represents a force majeure. We also have no desire for such a late hour battles, so we trying avoid battles after 2 AM when we can afford it. I hope you understand.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 18, 2013, 12:39:06 pm
Interessting u should say that, Greys havent joined in the north until now, and Shuhan hasnt at all. So, basically ur saying that u would need the troops from Dhirim Area to counter us up here? Wouldnt at least 35k troops or so from ismirala and north be enough to hunt us down? And the Greys didnt really enter the north until the Coalition did when they came to help when u screamed for help......

We anticipated you would make some sort of counter somehow, somewhere, but nope - honor to Idzo, the only one of u that charged north at all.

Yes thats what i'm saying, grey order keeping us occupied in dhirim prevents us from properly fighting.
There are so many more active members in your clans combined, on top of that so many more troops, if you remove the pressure off dhirim we would have enough to counter you.
You mention 35k troops, you know the smaller factions combined have way more then that  :wink:

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Rogue on July 18, 2013, 12:56:37 pm
Yeah, so brave Mercs  :rolleyes:  Don't fool around  :)  You should be happy that somebody else has done for you a decent war you campmasters pfff, although I must admit that you are better than Coalition... at least you didn't slaughtered industrial quantities of white randoms  :lol:

PS  Don't mute me again for no reason you bastards  :rolleyes:


Actually we "slaughtered industrial quantities of white randoms" on top of attacking and fighting more than any other faction (apart from FCC). Although I must admit, I didn't realise our border guards were that genocidal.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 18, 2013, 01:14:13 pm
The 2 main reasons for you being in this situation Haboe is based on your own lack of good decisions, not the Greys pinning u down in Dhirim. Troops at the right place and lack of Lords in their fiefs.

If for instance,

- you had 5000 troops in Rivacheg and the lord at home

- 5000 troops in Bulugha and the Lord at home

- 5000 troops in Sargoth and the Lord at home

We would have never been able to do the damage we did to you.

You had way more than u needed in the fiefs around Ismirala, Jeirbe and Alburq

And your inability to see what was coming when we first entered your field of vision up at Rivacheg/Bulugha

So, this was the main reasons - not the greys in Dhirim.

And dont say u didnt have those troops available to put into those places, we have been monitoring your movements for some time.

Basically, your mistakes opened up for our attacks so you (or whoever makes the strategic decisions in Apostates)screwed up - end of story  :mrgreen:

Deal with it and stop acting like it couldnt have been avoided - stand up for your decisions and dont try to run away from your responsabilities as a leader......u screwed up - now your clanmmembers are paying for it




 

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on July 18, 2013, 01:25:15 pm
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Teeth on July 18, 2013, 01:31:01 pm
Yes thats what i'm saying, grey order keeping us occupied in dhirim prevents us from properly fighting.
There are so many more active members in your clans combined, on top of that so many more troops, if you remove the pressure off dhirim we would have enough to counter you.
You mention 35k troops, you know the smaller factions combined have way more then that  :wink:
Yeah, poor Apostates are in such a rough position.

Look what I found, purdy stats. Hey look, Apostates are only second after Coalition in garrison size, with 86k.
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Fun fact:
Total silver in EU: 81,845,495
Total silver in NA: 13,400,234
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 18, 2013, 01:32:30 pm
Those Templars are such greedy Bastards +1 for roleplay

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Keshian on July 18, 2013, 01:33:47 pm


Fun fact:
Total silver in EU: 81,845,495
Total silver in NA: 13,400,234

They gave too many fiefs in eu compared to na.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 18, 2013, 01:44:32 pm
Yeah, poor Apostates are in such a rough position.

Look what I found, purdy stats. Hey look, Apostates are only second after Coalition in garrison size, with 86k.
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Fun fact:
Total silver in EU: 81,845,495
Total silver in NA: 13,400,234

Grey order 83k
Shu han 62k
Wolves 42k

Then add all the army's they have in the field (because apostates barely have those atm) + all the small clans  :mrgreen:
So yea, rought spot indeed, also a fun spot to be in i must admit  :mrgreen:


As for granny's shit, "if you did that back then" includes the "if you knew wolves would backstab".
Most of us expected so, but i went on the course of trusting you, and focus on the uif. That turned out pretty bad, i should have known better then to give you a chance after all the sideswitches you have done in the past  :wink:

As for the rest, i'm glad this attack came after the recent patches, enjoying myself a lot as a polearmer for a change, too bad you find it enjoyable(?) to set 3 attacks between 0:00 and 5:00.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 18, 2013, 01:46:13 pm
Yeah, poor Apostates are in such a rough position.

Look what I found, purdy stats. Hey look, Apostates are only second after Coalition in garrison size, with 86k.
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Fun fact:
Total silver in EU: 81,845,495
Total silver in NA: 13,400,234

Major economic downturn, Germans get your wallets out

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tactical_One on July 18, 2013, 01:54:19 pm
Major economic downturn, Germans get your wallets out

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I wonder how much silver factions  have on in their mains characters. Becouse silver held in fiefs can be small part of what they do have. Becouse i cant belive that some 20 fief faction would gather 20 mln silver only.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 18, 2013, 01:57:00 pm
Grey order 83k
Shu han 62k
Wolves 42k

Then add all the army's they have in the field (because apostates barely have those atm) + all the small clans  :mrgreen:
So yea, rought spot indeed, also a fun spot to be in i must admit  :mrgreen:


As for granny's shit, "if you did that back then" includes the "if you knew wolves would backstab".
Most of us expected so, but i went on the course of trusting you, and focus on the uif. That turned out pretty bad, i should have known better then to give you a chance after all the sideswitches you have done in the past  :wink:

As for the rest, i'm glad this attack came after the recent patches, enjoying myself a lot as a polearmer for a change, too bad you find it enjoyable(?) to set 3 attacks between 0:00 and 5:00.

If you strip a city and a castle of its defences, and let all the Lords go out and hop along in some flower fields, u cant really say - Oh noes  :shock:  some body attacked my city - I could have never know - the defences are there to prevent that from happening - U screwed up Haboe - stop blaiming everyone else - Rivacheg was probably the worst defended city on the map

As for the battles u mention, none of them are Wolves  :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bavvoz on July 18, 2013, 02:18:05 pm
Again rivacheg was my fault. I had orders to reinforce her, was about to when irl struck hard and swift.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 18, 2013, 02:29:11 pm
We thought u were in coalition lands trading, since Rivacheg turned to coalition colors and Rivacheg was the main bying fief on the map, u werent in Rivacheg or anywhere around it.


Sorry for irl troubles anyway, hope things are better now
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: woody on July 18, 2013, 02:35:18 pm
Ah dont worry mercs - mummy coalition will come sooner or later.

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 18, 2013, 03:15:28 pm
Ah dont worry mercs - mummy coalition will come sooner or later.

Mommy grey, shu han, cotgs, balde, karluks, kapikulu and ode hanging around wolves might be enough babysitters in the area already mr woody  :wink:


We thought u were in coalition lands trading, since Rivacheg turned to coalition colors and Rivacheg was the main bying fief on the map, u werent in Rivacheg or anywhere around it.


Sorry for irl troubles anyway, hope things are better now

He was, but due to rl he wasn't able to get back for weeks.
If we ever manage to fight back this gank during this strat, i'll make sure bavvo gets to make the first blood on rivacheg :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 18, 2013, 03:27:31 pm
Weeks nope, here comes the BS again Hobbit.

Rivacheg turned to coalition color just days before we attacked, I remember it because we thought you were on to us and the plan we had made. Talked to Rogue about why Rivacheg was suddenly coalition owned, he hadnt even noticed, and then he checked and said it was for trading purposes.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bavvoz on July 18, 2013, 03:32:08 pm
Thanks! im not bothered in any way for the attack, i think its fun :) Just make sure that u point at the correct person for how poorly defended it was. Im 100% responsible for that failure :)

And yes i managed to get on briefly to apply to coa coz i hadnt been able to meet up my trading partner for quite a while
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 18, 2013, 03:34:08 pm
Grandmom please tell me this, when UIF attacked you and you lost slezkh castle and took ages to get it back with help form the eastern block, you decided that you would not do anything about it?

But when apostates make a little infringement you think its the end of the world and that your must fight back?

But now you see fit to ally with the UIF because they haven't done anything to you, looks like you have the memory of a goldfish
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 18, 2013, 03:45:03 pm
Thats the whole point Bavvoz, not that I care anymore now, but sending the Lord far away for trading when he is the Lord of the city that produces the most S/D on the whole map isnt a Napoleonic move from your leaders - and thats just Rivacheg.  Its the same thing in the other fiefs so its not an isolated event. Look at whats happening on the map, strudog, idzo, lizardman and you - all Lords of major fiefs and none inside their fiefs. Silicium was also outside running around.

ADMIT that is was a big mistake and a strategic failure to do this, everyone in the community can see it anyway so why put your head in the sand and say: "......nope... :shock:...it was just bad luck or events we couldnt have anticipated that made this happen" - all decisions u make will have consequences - this decision was a bad one and the consequences are here

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 18, 2013, 03:47:36 pm
Grandmom please tell me this, when UIF attacked you and you lost slezkh castle and took ages to get it back with help form the eastern block, you decided that you would not do anything about it?

But when apostates make a little infringement you think its the end of the world and that your must fight back?

But now you see fit to ally with the UIF because they haven't done anything to you, looks like you have the memory of a goldfish

Unlike you I can say this - "We fucked up" in SLezkh castle - we had no lord there and to little troops inside - just like u did in this case. :mrgreen:



Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: woody on July 18, 2013, 03:57:28 pm
Haboe - a leader whose arrogance is exceeded only by his incompetence.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Lizard_man on July 18, 2013, 04:05:00 pm
Your point being?

That your whole assumption was wrong, obviously...

Stop acting like you know everything, things would be different if we weren't at war on all fronts. Stop whining, here comes the bullshit, you screwed up. You've been saying the same shit for over a week, it's fucking annoying. Hopefully we'll see Wolves on the field, none of this buggy siege bullshit...
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: woody on July 18, 2013, 04:05:37 pm
Oh and Im pretty sure Hetman would prefer Daddy Hetman to Mummy Hetman
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 18, 2013, 04:07:06 pm
Unlike you I can say this - "We fucked up" in SLezkh castle - we had no lord there and to little troops inside - just like u did in this case. :mrgreen:





Still dosent answer my question, you are worse than a politician
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 18, 2013, 04:14:42 pm
Make love not war

JK, keep at it boys :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 18, 2013, 04:15:50 pm
If only you were as successful in battle as you are at pointing out your enemies' flaws, GRANDCUNT.

And what I think you're obnoxiously arrogant about is the fact that without your allies and the combined effort of said allies, you wouldn't have a fraction of the "won" battles in Strategus. Yet you seem to make conclusions that imply Wolves are in any way singlehandedly responsible for your minor successes.
Yes, you've credited your allies in that big post that you stated would be locked but later opened because you wanted to criticize us for every little thing, but as soon as Wolves' pride come into question, you bare your toothless jaw and bring up Rivacheg and some other insignificant thing -- as if these things somehow indicate a lack of competence in our faction. What you fail to realize (intentionally I suspect), however, is that Apostates is a fairly large faction, at least compared to your little school project, and that the level of engagement of all members vary heavily. The communication and availability of every member is bound to be lacking. You're right though, we could do some improvements and I must thank you for motivating us to do so.

You've woken a lazy giant, GRANDCUNT, so better rally your pack of rabid puppy dogs because while I may not speak for everyone, I think I speak for most when I say that Strategus has finally become interesting. Because it will be interesting to see Wolves and everyone else in your little alliance gradually diminishing from the map.

The nail that stands out is the first to get hammered - I think it has been established who has which role. :wink:

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 18, 2013, 04:18:04 pm
Grandmom please tell me this, when UIF attacked you and you lost slezkh castle and took ages to get it back with help form the eastern block, you decided that you would not do anything about it?

But when apostates make a little infringement you think its the end of the world and that your must fight back?

But now you see fit to ally with the UIF because they haven't done anything to you, looks like you have the memory of a goldfish
Kinngrimm blamed Apostates quite a bit for letting UIF armies to march all the way up to Wolves, and unlike Apostates who attacked them when they were technically allied, UIF took Slezkh while being at war since the beginning of strat... UIF may have "done something to them", but UIF did it while at war and didn't suddenly declare war out of the blue.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 18, 2013, 04:19:19 pm
If only you were as successful in battle as you are at pointing out your enemies' flaws, GRANDCUNT.

And what I think you're obnoxiously arrogant about is the fact that without your allies and the combined effort of said allies, you wouldn't have a fraction of the "won" battles in Strategus. Yet you seem to make conclusions that imply Wolves are in any way singlehandedly responsible for your minor successes.
Yes, you've credited your allies in that big post that you stated would be locked but later opened because you wanted to criticize us for every little thing, but as soon as Wolves' pride come into question, you bare your toothless jaw and bring up Rivacheg and some other insignificant thing -- as if these things somehow indicate a lack of competence in our faction. What you fail to realize (intentionally I suspect), however, is that Apostates is a fairly large faction, at least compared to your little school project, and that the level of engagement of all members vary heavily. The communication and availability of every member is bound to be lacking. You're right though, we could do some improvements and I must thank you for motivating us to do so.

You've woken a lazy giant, GRANDCUNT, so better rally your pack of rabid puppy dogs because while I may not speak for everyone, I think I speak for most when I say that Strategus has finally become interesting. Because it will be interesting to see Wolves and everyone else in your little alliance gradually diminishing from the map.

The nail that stands out is the first to get hammered - I think it has been established who has which role. :wink:



But they wont be wiped out Bjord, they will run with their tail between their legs to the South-west of the map like all factions have done and sit behind the grey and have nor further meaningful participation in strat




Kinngrimm blamed Apostates quite a bit for letting UIF armies to march all the way up to Wolves, and unlike Apostates who attacked them when they were technically allied, UIF took Slezkh while being at war since the beginning of strat... UIF may have "done something to them", but UIF did it while at war and didn't suddenly declare war out of the blue.

Thats not what happened Zlisch, there was a minor incident which Kapikulus and Wolves out of proportion and the reason why the Apostates attacked the Wolves was because Kingrimm was planning to backstab us. And considering numerous times that the wolves have stated that they knew nothing about strat when kingrimm was running it, they somehow knew that it was all ourr fault and that kingrimm was planning nothing

And so you are saying that they need all the help they could get? But numerous occasions they have stated how great they are in numerous threads that they were able to take fiefs from the apostates.

The Wolves are like a Chihuahua, they like to bark as loud as they can and nip at bigger dogs but you just know that the bigger dog will just flatten the Chihuahua in good time
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 18, 2013, 04:23:34 pm
But they wont be wiped out Bjord, they will run with their tail between their legs to the South-west of the map like all factions have done and sit behind the grey and have nor further meaningful participation in strat
Maybe you shouldn't be all "Noob wolves are being saved by Grey mulitaccounters!" when recentlywiped mercs have been spotted in coalition land totally not getting armed up by coalition or anything, you're all alone against UIF and CFA and everyone else who has a grudge against you, totally...
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 18, 2013, 04:27:57 pm
Maybe you shouldn't be all "Noob wolves are being saved by Grey mulitaccounters!" when recentlywiped mercs have been spotted in coalition land totally not getting armed up by coalition or anything, you're all alone against UIF and CFA and everyone else who has a grudge against you, totally...

First of all how have we been wiped out?

And second of all we have never said we are alone against anyone, we know that the coalitioon are there to help us, but why not make it faster clearing up the wolves and then turn the attention on the UIF?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 18, 2013, 04:28:25 pm
Thats not what happened Zlisch, there was a minor incident which Kapikulus and Wolves out of proportion and the reason why the Apostates attacked the Wolves was because Kingrimm was planning to backstab us. And considering numerous times that the wolves have stated that they knew nothing about strat when kingrimm was running it, they somehow knew that it was all ourr fault and that kingrimm was planning nothing
Regardless of whether you suspect that Kinngrimm wanted to fight/backstab you, unless you heard it directly from him, is some random potentially unreliable source stating that he wanted to backstab you/your gut feeling really incriminating enough for declaring war on an ally whose leader just quit?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 18, 2013, 04:29:04 pm
Regardless of whether you suspect that Kinngrimm wanted to fight/backstab you, unless you heard it directly from him, is some random potentially unreliable source stating that he wanted to backstab you/your gut feeling really incriminating enough for declaring war on an ally whose leader just quit?

when has war ever been started on facts?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 18, 2013, 04:30:57 pm
First of all how have we been wiped out?

And second of all we have never said we are alone against anyone, we know that the coalitioon are there to help us, but why not make it faster clearing up the wolves and then turn the attention on the UIF?
When I said wiped I merely meant lost a field battle and spawned somewhere with no troops, and if coalition is a huge help for you (which from what I've seen, they are) can you really complain about CFA being helped by UIF?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 18, 2013, 04:32:39 pm
Maybe you shouldn't be all "Noob wolves are being saved by Grey mulitaccounters!" when recentlywiped mercs have been spotted in coalition land totally not getting armed up by coalition or anything, you're all alone against UIF and CFA and everyone else who has a grudge against you, totally...

Ah, Zlisch, the little outcast underdog wannabe who thinks he has an answer to everything.

Nobody gives a fuck? We're here to fight, and seeing as Coalition are our allies with an equal love for tons of exp in short amount of time, why wouldn't they retrofit out armies? They don't have arms everywhere and neither do we, I'm pretty confident we'd share our resources with them too if it meant that our enemies were gonna get a good battering. You seem to think that there's actually some shame in sharing your resources. :lol:

No wonder why you're failing so miserably in Strategus, Zlisch. You're fucking retarded, that's why.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 18, 2013, 04:35:15 pm
The Wolves are like a Chihuahua, they like to bark as loud as they can and nip at bigger dogs but you just know that the bigger dog will just flatten the Chihuahua in good time

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They are dancing with you, not barking :wink:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 18, 2013, 04:35:37 pm
when has war ever been started on facts?
Never, and, if you were Wolves, would you ever suspect that Coalition and Mercs won't go along with their initial plan and gang up on CFA the second UIF died/whenever convenient? So Wolves broke this peace when the timing was great expecting and having just received from you, a backstab, and you broke your alliance when Bros leave CFA? How can you claim anything you did wasn't as/more bad than the extremely dishonorable backstab that mercs in no way could have prepared for and that wasn't completely obvious?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 18, 2013, 04:37:57 pm
When I said wiped I merely meant lost a field battle and spawned somewhere with no troops, and if coalition is a huge help for you (which from what I've seen, they are) can you really complain about CFA being helped by UIF?

Every clan helps each other, if they are in an alliance Zlisch, but what i am getting at here zlisch is that the Wolves are yelling on the forums that they are the most magnificent faction and they they are destroying the mercs, and i wouldn't be arguing if they had managed to do it themselves, the fact is the wolves are just a puppet of the UIF which the Apostates are not with the Coalition. Their armies have UIF written all over them and the the fact they attacked with that many troops has UIF written all over it.

It should say UIF are winning the war, not wolves
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 18, 2013, 04:38:39 pm
Ah, Zlisch, the little outcast underdog wannabe who thinks he has an answer to everything.

Nobody gives a fuck? We're here to fight, and seeing as Coalition are our allies with an equal love for tons of exp in short amount of time, why wouldn't they retrofit out armies? They don't have arms everywhere and neither do we, I'm pretty confident we'd share our resources with them too if it meant that our enemies were gonna get a good battering. You seem to think that there's actually some shame in sharing your resources. :lol:

No wonder why you're failing so miserably in Strategus, Zlisch. You're fucking retarded, that's why.
If there isn't any shame in sharing resources/having other people do more/as much as you in a war then why is it a huge problem that Grey Order is fucking you up while Wolves attacked you? Can you explain that?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 18, 2013, 04:40:01 pm
Reminder, UIF is dead since quite a while. :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 18, 2013, 04:41:14 pm
Every clan helps each other, if they are in an alliance Zlisch, but what i am getting at here zlisch is that the Wolves are yelling on the forums that they are the most magnificent faction and they they are destroying the mercs, and i wouldn't be arguing if they had managed to do it themselves, the fact is the wolves are just a puppet of the UIF which the Apostates are not with the Coalition. Their armies have UIF written all over them and the the fact they attacked with that many troops has UIF written all over it.

It should say UIF are winning the war, not wolves
What wolves are writing is a somewhat fair response to mercs posts about Rivacheg... and keep dreaming that Grey Order gave wolves all the troops and that Grandmom just does whatever Hetman tells him to.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 18, 2013, 04:41:30 pm
Reminder, UIF is dead since quite a while. :P

Once we start losing we will go AFK then
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 18, 2013, 04:42:59 pm
What wolves are writing is a somewhat fair response to mercs posts about Rivacheg... and keep dreaming that Grey Order gave wolves all the troops and that Grandmom just does whatever Hetman tells him to.

Is that what you believe Zlisch? i thought you were better than that.

Please tell me how they con sustain that many armies and get all those different types of gear from 3 Fiefs Zlisch


Sorry for Double post
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 18, 2013, 04:44:29 pm
I repeat, Zlisch, nobody gives a flying fuck what you think is "EXTREMERY DISHONORORABRE BACKSTAB". The one good thing Niemand said was that Strat is not a trading simulator, we're meant to backstab each other. You just backstab the people that you trust the least. For now, I have immense trust for everyone in Apostates, Coalition and Templars. However, seeing how DRZ is almost dead, Grey's slowly withering away and random noob factions like CotgS, Wolves, Kapikulu and whatever failing more and more each day, it's only a matter of time until it's just us left. I welcome that day, because I know who is getting hired to those battles and who isn't. You can kiss Strategus goodbye when that day comes. :wink:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 18, 2013, 04:46:07 pm
I repeat, Zlisch, nobody gives a flying fuck what you think is "EXTREMERY DISHONORORABRE BACKSTAB". The one good thing Niemand said was that Strat is not a trading simulator, we're meant to backstab each other. You just backstab the people that you trust the least. For now, I have immense trust for everyone in Apostates, Coalition and Templars. However, seeing how DRZ is almost dead, Grey's slowly withering away and random noob factions like CotgS, Wolves, Kapikulu and whatever failing more and more each day, it's only a matter of time until it's just us left. I welcome that day, because I know who is getting hired to those battles and who isn't. You can kiss Strategus goodbye when that day comes. :wink:

They will just claim that they are AFK again and leave 30,000 troops in each fief, making it 5 years before start ends
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 18, 2013, 04:48:41 pm
Then we get 60 000 troops and we kick them out of there. There are enough randomers in Strategus to muster up a large amount in a fort night.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 18, 2013, 04:48:45 pm
Once we start losing we will go AFK then

UIF never started to lose tho.

* Union got buttfucked
* Bashis quit cause of... wait, why did they quit again?
* Nords lost motivation for cRPG
* Occitian left for NA strat
* Drz felt sorry for their russian comrades so they boycot cRPG for a while (aka the bear went for his long sleep). They also stopped their movement
* Greys stopped movement on strat, just stacking up their cities.

So UIF for Strat 4

Greys
Drz
Nords
Bashis
Union
Occitian
Legio
Brodnics


Anyway, UIF were never losing.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 18, 2013, 04:51:38 pm
And strudog, GO and DRZ really were AFK. They didn't do a single trade or anything for months. You should've attacked them earlier and they would probably not be on the map now
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 18, 2013, 04:54:13 pm
And strudog, GO and DRZ really were AFK. They didn't do a single trade or anything for months. You should've attacked them earlier and they would probably not be on the map now

I had nothing to do with Strat when all this happened (i was in Templars, i just sat in a fief), but i remember seeing the map with DRZ with a few fiefs left and Greys snuggled in a corner

P.s. Im stirring shit up because im bored at work
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 18, 2013, 04:57:31 pm
Well, you can blame the cautious Eastern leadership for not attacking earlier. :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Lizard_man on July 18, 2013, 05:06:42 pm
can you really complain about CFA being helped by UIF?

Learn to read, who's complaining?

Is that what you believe Zlisch? i thought you were better than that.

Serious? Zlisch is an even bigger idiot than Grandmom...
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 18, 2013, 05:50:18 pm
If only you were as successful in battle as you are at pointing out your enemies' flaws, GRANDCUNT.

And what I think you're obnoxiously arrogant about is the fact that without your allies and the combined effort of said allies, you wouldn't have a fraction of the "won" battles in Strategus. Yet you seem to make conclusions that imply Wolves are in any way singlehandedly responsible for your minor successes.
Yes, you've credited your allies in that big post that you stated would be locked but later opened because you wanted to criticize us for every little thing, but as soon as Wolves' pride come into question, you bare your toothless jaw and bring up Rivacheg and some other insignificant thing -- as if these things somehow indicate a lack of competence in our faction. What you fail to realize (intentionally I suspect), however, is that Apostates is a fairly large faction, at least compared to your little school project, and that the level of engagement of all members vary heavily. The communication and availability of every member is bound to be lacking. You're right though, we could do some improvements and I must thank you for motivating us to do so.

You've woken a lazy giant, GRANDCUNT, so better rally your pack of rabid puppy dogs because while I may not speak for everyone, I think I speak for most when I say that Strategus has finally become interesting. Because it will be interesting to see Wolves and everyone else in your little alliance gradually diminishing from the map.

The nail that stands out is the first to get hammered - I think it has been established who has which role. :wink:

You are most welcome, for the motivation we bring you I mean, and yes finally Strategus has become interessting  - we will await your mighty hammer then Bjord, guess that coalition will be swinging it while you sit on their shoulders pointing fingers at the targets.

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 18, 2013, 05:57:59 pm
Every clan helps each other, if they are in an alliance Zlisch, but what i am getting at here zlisch is that the Wolves are yelling on the forums that they are the most magnificent faction and they they are destroying the mercs, and i wouldn't be arguing if they had managed to do it themselves, the fact is the wolves are just a puppet of the UIF which the Apostates are not with the Coalition. Their armies have UIF written all over them and the the fact they attacked with that many troops has UIF written all over it.

It should say UIF are winning the war, not wolves

Again pretty incompetent post, if u would have watched our fiefs from time to time, u would have noticed the changes in locations of the troops, and also, we havent borrowed a single troop from the UIF, not a single silver, not a single sword. We are not the geratest clan on the map, we are one clan among many others that are attacking you - we together has made what has happened the last days. Everey mmeber of the clans, every grinder, trader, general of the clans - what drives us simply to hurt the mercs as much as possible and have fun. And belive me, more clans are signing up, its strange how few friends u have on the map really, but then again perhaps u dont need friends or allies......what do I know - Im just a noob
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 18, 2013, 05:59:16 pm
I had nothing to do with Strat when all this happened (i was in Templars, i just sat in a fief), but i remember seeing the map with DRZ with a few fiefs left and Greys snuggled in a corner

P.s. Im stirring shit up because im bored at work

I know the feeling :)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tactical_One on July 18, 2013, 06:27:43 pm
I hope Coalition will come to clean this mess :) and there will be plenty of battles more :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Teeth on July 18, 2013, 06:58:45 pm
I repeat, Zlisch, nobody gives a flying fuck what you think is "EXTREMERY DISHONORORABRE BACKSTAB". The one good thing Niemand said was that Strat is not a trading simulator, we're meant to backstab each other. You just backstab the people that you trust the least. For now, I have immense trust for everyone in Apostates, Coalition and Templars. However, seeing how DRZ is almost dead, Grey's slowly withering away and random noob factions like CotgS, Wolves, Kapikulu and whatever failing more and more each day, it's only a matter of time until it's just us left. I welcome that day, because I know who is getting hired to those battles and who isn't. You can kiss Strategus goodbye when that day comes. :wink:
You haven't been paying much attention to the Strat map lately have you? Or the definition of 'withering away' changed to taking more and more fiefs recently. Newsflash, Grey Order has more fiefs than the Apostates.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Falka on July 18, 2013, 07:04:42 pm
You haven't been paying much attention to the Strat map lately have you? Or the definition of 'withering away' changed to taking more and more fiefs recently. Newsflash, Grey Order has more fiefs than the Apostates.

Bjordie counts his enemies only with the tip of his sword. When they're dead, not before the battle...  :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 18, 2013, 07:28:09 pm
You haven't been paying much attention to the Strat map lately have you? Or the definition of 'withering away' changed to taking more and more fiefs recently. Newsflash, Grey Order has more fiefs than the Apostates.

We still have more silver, bigger garrisons and you forget our allies, the Coalition. Together we make up almost 50% of all the silver and troops in EU strat.

And by "withering away", I mean that in a relative way. Look at how big they used to be. They also went AFK, lagging them behind the race of dominion even further.

Anyhow, we may or may not lose, but I thought I made it clear that I don't care about that. If we devise good and respectable tactics each battle, I'm content. I.E no lack of equipment, discipline and structure. As long as those things remain humble, I'm carefree as a cat. I'm just here for the violence and trash talk anyway.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 18, 2013, 07:29:57 pm
You are most welcome, for the motivation we bring you I mean, and yes finally Strategus has become interessting  - we will await your mighty hammer then Bjord, guess that coalition will be swinging it while you sit on their shoulders pointing fingers at the targets.

It's more like we take turns swinging the hammer, pup.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Teeth on July 18, 2013, 07:42:52 pm
We still have more silver, bigger garrisons and you forget our allies, the Coalition. Together we make up almost 50% of all the silver and troops in EU strat.

And by "withering away", I mean that in a relative way. Look at how big they used to be. They also went AFK, lagging them behind the race of dominion even further.

Anyhow, we may or may not lose, but I thought I made it clear that I don't care about that. If we devise good and respectable tactics each battle, I'm content. I.E no lack of equipment, discipline and structure. As long as those things remain humble, I'm carefree as a cat. I'm just here for the violence and trash talk anyway.
Then go and explain that to Haboe, because all the little tear stains made his posts a little hard to read. He continously states that you're being 'ganked', that you are in a 'rough position' and he is doubting your ability to fight back this 'gank'.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 18, 2013, 08:05:36 pm
I'm not Haboe and my role in the faction is comprised of generating troops and fighting in battles. And of course, being the official Trash Talker has some responsibilities too. Why don't you PM him about your concerns.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 18, 2013, 08:16:37 pm
It's more like we take turns swinging the hammer, pup.

Well, we will be here when you decide to try and lift that large mighty hammer of yours - just say when Kitten
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Lizard_man on July 18, 2013, 08:36:19 pm
This guy! :|
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 19, 2013, 02:56:52 am
We still have more silver, bigger garrisons and you forget our allies, the Coalition. Together we make up almost 50% of all the silver and troops in EU strat.

You do realize that the stuff shown on the website only counts for the stuff inside the fiefs right?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: QuisUtDeus on July 19, 2013, 05:02:46 pm
Dear Apostates,

If you would spend a mere 1/3 of the time you spend on redundant information production ( a.k.a. troll-posts ) for actually acting in strat, this whole war could be way more enjoyable.

If I think about the talks we had in Wolves TS during planning phase, about how you could react and deny our plans, this was entirely different from what you actually were able to make happen. Retrospectively this has a slightly funny connotation.
That said, I do think that if you guys go on like this, people may realize that the respect they had for you was eventually only caused by the “big name”. As for me, I am completely disillusioned about this matter.  :mrgreen:

Why don’t you take Kapikulu as an example? I know you love to hate them, but I would rather have 49 team-hitting Kapis in my roster ( this is actually BS but for the sake of the argument lets go with it ) than being in the position to have one Blackfist protect my flanks …

The Kapis were not only always loyal to us, they also managed to intercept way more than what our overall plan stated in the first place. It’s a perfect example for the simple truth that taking action is worth 1000 times more than uttering words, words, words.

So guys, lets make this war an enjoyable one, as you aren’t getting tired to say: “More XP for everyone” – Yes, but then BRING IT ON! Its getting kinda dull making all the equipments for this war and you don’t want to play with us, QQ.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 19, 2013, 05:15:44 pm
Dear Apostates,

If you would spend a mere 1/3 of the time you spend on redundant information production ( a.k.a. troll-posts ) for actually acting in strat, this whole war could be way more enjoyable.

If I think about the talks we had in Wolves TS during planning phase, about how you could react and deny our plans, this was entirely different from what you actually were able to make happen. Retrospectively this has a slightly funny connotation.
That said, I do think that if you guys go on like this, people may realize that the respect they had for you was eventually only caused by the “big name”. As for me, I am completely disillusioned about this matter.  :mrgreen:

Why don’t you take Kapikulu as an example? I know you love to hate them, but I would rather have 49 team-hitting Kapis in my roster ( this is actually BS but for the sake of the argument lets go with it ) than being in the position to have one Blackfist protect my flanks …

The Kapis were not only always loyal to us, they also managed to intercept way more than what our overall plan stated in the first place. It’s a perfect example for the simple truth that taking action is worth 1000 times more than uttering words, words, words.

So guys, lets make this war an enjoyable one, as you aren’t getting tired to say: “More XP for everyone” – Yes, but then BRING IT ON! Its getting kinda dull making all the equipments for this war and you don’t want to play with us, QQ.


Who said we are not doing anything, i think you have a lack of information your side. I use to have a lot of respect for the Wolves back in the day Kingrimm was in charge, he was the only one in my eyes that made the clan look good, but now the rest of you have finally hit puberty and grown some balls, you are officialy now my most hated clan, not in strategus but also in all other servers you annoy the crap out of me. So what i would say is that you guys have tarnished your own name.

The war was made less enjoyable by you guys in the first place, popping a thread up every second of the day about the war, there really is no need and has taken all fun out of the war and now has just made it a bitter rivalry. The Greys on the other hand are fun to fight against becaus ehow often do you see a grey thread pop up about their most recent victory? None. Pls Fuck off back to your little holes in the ground where it is dark and lonely and continue playing Strategus night and day.

As for Big names, who the fuck cares its a game, i know i joined the Mercs for their activity and not for their big name, but you know people have their differences.

In regards to the Mercs looking shit, well tbh there are many reasons for that, its summer time and the Mercs compared to the winter are very inactive at the moment, most of the time TS is pretty empty and people are just in general bored of c-rpg. But you know its the summer and everyone was is on Holidays or either working.

PLease next time you make a post, make it lest personal and more about RP and strat. It seems you Wolves have gone full retard and there is no coming back form that
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 20, 2013, 02:42:03 am
The war was made less enjoyable by you guys in the first place, popping a thread up every second of the day about the war...

Being the beacon of wisdom that I am, I have devised a genial solution for their lust for exposition. Behold, your own, shiny Twitter account: @wolvesPOV!
I'll leave the password here in the thread and you can just change it once you've gotten the hang of spamming every little update in the war. Oh wait, you seem to have mastered this already... Oh well, here's the password: apostatesvswolves123

Have fun, kids!
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Niemand on July 20, 2013, 09:40:57 pm
blah
It seems somebody is sad about losing his town? Want a hug? :3

You could have sent more reinforcements... but... well... you did shake in fear, caused by 3,5 small clans. And now you're hiding, sending HRG-armies in to clean up the shit for you (while you do nothing yourselves), since you cant even grow enough hair to act yourself. (Before you were Hiding behind Bromance-Hood and Blackfist, just to inform you about your spinelessness. ;) )

BRING!
IT!
ON!
BITCHES!!
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 21, 2013, 01:10:03 am
It seems somebody is sad about losing his town? Want a hug? :3

You could have sent more reinforcements... but... well... you did shake in fear, caused by 3,5 small clans. And now you're hiding, sending HRG-armies in to clean up the shit for you (while you do nothing yourselves), since you cant even grow enough hair to act yourself. (Before you were Hiding behind Bromance-Hood and Blackfist, just to inform you about your spinelessness. ;) )

BRING!
IT!
ON!
BITCHES!!

Be careful niemand, I hear they have a great Hammer of some sorts, and that it actually hurts, and that they will take turns swinging it - It's so adorable reading people gloat about their great "Hammerskills" in Strategus, though. It's almost like you think it's something other than a game. Maybe you should go outside once in a while and, I don't know, get some perspective? :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Silicium on July 21, 2013, 02:39:37 am
It seems somebody is sad about losing his town? Want a hug? :3

You could have sent more reinforcements... but... well... you did shake in fear, caused by 3,5 small clans. And now you're hiding, sending HRG-armies in to clean up the shit for you (while you do nothing yourselves), since you cant even grow enough hair to act yourself. (Before you were Hiding behind Bromance-Hood and Blackfist, just to inform you about your spinelessness. ;) )

BRING!
IT!
ON!
BITCHES!!
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 21, 2013, 04:38:10 am
Have fun, kids!

Funny since you say kids, when you're on yourself. Are you 18 yet? Are you sure you are allowed to play? Mommy wont take your computer away?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 21, 2013, 11:45:25 am
Didnt want it to come to this, but I feel a need to tell you - Im your father Bjord
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 21, 2013, 11:53:05 am
Didnt want it to come to this, but I feel a need to tell you - Im your father Bjord
Watch out, Bjord has been plotting to murder you!
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 21, 2013, 12:56:45 pm
Oh?  :shock: with his keyboard? Or with his Justin Bieber poster?

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on July 21, 2013, 01:12:44 pm
Just read pages 11 and 12 of this thread, it was reminiscent of the feeling you get when you watch someone attempting a DIY abortion with a coat hanger.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 21, 2013, 01:57:13 pm
dem circlejerks
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Casimir on July 21, 2013, 02:22:37 pm
I like turtles.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: jtobiasm on July 21, 2013, 02:58:11 pm
Seen better banter on jezza kyle.

Quick question how come Wolves never posted in the forums until they got backed up by a few clans also where have you all come from? I've only ever seen about 3 of you actually playing c-rpg before the war.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on July 21, 2013, 03:39:14 pm
Seen better banter on jezza kyle.

Quick question how come Wolves never posted in the forums until they got backed up by a few clans also where have you all come from? I've only ever seen about 3 of you actually playing c-rpg before the war.

Multiaccounting  :twisted:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 21, 2013, 03:47:10 pm
Seen better banter on jezza kyle.

Quick question how come Wolves never posted in the forums until they got backed up by a few clans also where have you all come from? I've only ever seen about 3 of you actually playing c-rpg before the war.

Well, since we are all noobs, we never even knew there was a forum, but when we found it there was joy and oh the Wolves spammed the forums to a level never seen before!

And also, we are about the same guys as when we were under Kinngrimm, but like said before, when we got attacked and when Kinngrimm left we had to start to care or be wiped. We choose to care and adapt and learn. The other clans didnt back us, they were in on the beginning.

After a lot of diplomacy and planning of the initial attacks on Rivacheg, Bulugha and Sargoth. We made a plan together with the other clans and acted on it as one clan - which so far has worked out ok, taken into account that we are noobs, and the ones we are attacking are close to godlike :)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 21, 2013, 04:12:02 pm
Well, since we are all noobs,


taken into account that we are noobs, and the ones we are attacking are close to godlike :)



Respect to kinny for giving the wolves a good image. Too bad the puberty stricken pack is now the face of wolves.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 21, 2013, 04:21:24 pm


Respect to kinny for giving the wolves a good image. Too bad the puberty stricken pack is now the face of wolves.

Interssting turn Haboe, again :)

Nice that U respect Kinn, we do to, to bad u had to stabb him in the back despite of all the respect u had for him - and what we are doing to you now - has everything to do with what u did to him - we aim to bring the mercs as much destruction as possible in the game - for Kinngrimms sake, nothing else - and as for your puberty have fun dealing with that
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on July 21, 2013, 04:22:55 pm
i hope you wont attack bazeck next
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 21, 2013, 04:30:17 pm
Strat is the shit part of c-rpg, thats the only reason why they give you millions of xp for playing in it
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on July 21, 2013, 05:08:41 pm
Its funny how all the Wolves admit that they had no idea of Kinngrimm plans, then they talk about how 'we' backstabbed Wolves.

If you have no knowledge of relations between Mercs and Kinngrimm, how can you judge the situation?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: QuisUtDeus on July 21, 2013, 05:37:20 pm
Its funny how all the Wolves admit that they had no idea of Kinngrimm plans, then they talk about how 'we' backstabbed Wolves.

If you have no knowledge of relations between Mercs and Kinngrimm, how can you judge the situation?

Hmm lets see ... Maybe we judge the situation based upon your charge on us, combined with the Steel Axis backstab? Its quite easy to understand, if you attack me, you are apparently not my friend.

What i think is funny is how Apostates went from "Lets wipe Wolves" to "Uncle Rogue tell em to leave snowlands without a fight" after (!) losing about 15k shiny troups without taking one castle. Hint: Thats about the number we sent out to Rivacheg area.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Niemand on July 21, 2013, 05:43:59 pm
Quick question how come Wolves never posted in the forums until they got backed up by a few clans also where have you all come from? I've only ever seen about 3 of you actually playing c-rpg before the war.

Wolves sit on the same teamspeak as Baltimores ("Kingdom of Balde"). Karluk's Leader is an often-seen guest there. And I (the leader of CotgS) own this ts3. Thats only a little background-information and the groundation for some of the backups. Then there was always the fact that wolves had good relations to other faction - not via forumz but via steam and teamspeak. You dont need the forumz to make friends. You need it to make enemies. :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on July 21, 2013, 06:12:06 pm
stop attacking worthless villages, go for towns and castles, i am tired of field battles, i want to fight in sieges :)

edit: oh and come on this is so stupid

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4502
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4504
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Conquisitore on July 21, 2013, 06:17:45 pm

edit: oh and come on this is so stupid

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4502
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4504


No Mercs in our lands, big armies or small ones, I don't care, if you come to us you will be attacked
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 21, 2013, 06:18:38 pm
stop attacking worthless villages, go for towns and castles, i am tired of field battles, i want to fight in sieges :)

edit: oh and come on this is so stupid

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4502
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4504

Some of them had a lot of gold, making them not so 'useless' :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: jtobiasm on July 21, 2013, 06:19:35 pm
Wolves sit on the same teamspeak as Baltimores ("Kingdom of Balde"). Karluk's Leader is an often-seen guest there. And I (the leader of CotgS) own this ts3. Thats only a little background-information and the groundation for some of the backups. Then there was always the fact that wolves had good relations to other faction - not via forumz but via steam and teamspeak. You dont need the forumz to make friends. You need it to make enemies. :D

Completely different questions that mate.

Cheers GRANDMOM for the answer.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 21, 2013, 07:15:52 pm
stop attacking worthless villages, go for towns and castles, i am tired of field battles, i want to fight in sieges :)

edit: oh and come on this is so stupid

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4502
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4504

But......but......arent you coming to take your lost casle and towns back? Bjord talks about a mighty hammer you will be wielding and that this hammer will be our doom....we fear you to much to attack you
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tibe on July 21, 2013, 07:38:22 pm
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Speaks the one whose factions influence on Strat is close to nonexsistent and whose clans combatskills are equal to DKG-s.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 21, 2013, 07:52:00 pm
Speaks the one whose factions influence on Strat is close to nonexsistent and whose clans combatskills are equal to DKG-s.

Yet with all that lack of influence they helped, organised and had fun with their friends when they took sargoth from the godlike clan, of whos name I dare not write in fear of their wicked wrath in the shape of a tool carpenters normally use....
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 21, 2013, 07:52:36 pm
But......but......arent you coming to take your lost casle and towns back? Bjord talks about a mighty hammer you will be wielding and that this hammer will be our doom....we fear you to much to attack you

You give my trash talk too much credit to think it influences the people who make the decisions in our factions.

If it was up to me, however, you'd have more than one hammer of doom crashing down into your furry assholes. Yiff in hell, furmy old friends. :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 21, 2013, 08:24:20 pm
You give my trash talk too much credit to think it influences the people who make the decisions in our factions.

If it was up to me, however, you'd have more than one hammer of doom crashing down into your furry assholes. Yiff in hell, furmy old friends. :D

You are wrong, Justin, I dont give your trash talk credit, I just find you somewhat amusing - thats it. Sorry if you thought more of yourself, kitten.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Falka on July 21, 2013, 08:27:43 pm
Speaks the one whose factions influence on Strat is close to nonexsistent and whose clans combatskills are equal to DKG-s.

Nonexistent influance, poor combatskill... Too bad apostates are loosing one battle after another recently... Instead of fighting with them on forum get your shit together and kick their asses, it's the best and only way to shut their mouths  :wink:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Keshian on July 21, 2013, 08:44:40 pm
Too bad apostates are loosing one battle after another recently

Part of that is that 70% of clanned eu mercenaries are allied against them all mercing together every fight - makes it difficult to even get full roster in many battles.  Makes sense that others would vulture in while they were busy fighting several of the largest eu factions, byzantium and grey order and kapikulu - doesn't make as much sense to be talking mad shit like they are super pro for joining a gangbang last and taking several of their fiefs behind their lines while they are outnumbered almost 3:1 in number of available mercs for battles. Most of those late night Sargoth battles ended up being all eu people on attackers side staying up to 4 am to fight a team of half na players in bugged equipment, not really a talking shit moment.  Frankly, mercenaries are doing much better job than some of the other factions who were attacked by over half the map at the same time.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tibe on July 21, 2013, 08:49:51 pm
Nonexistent influance, poor combatskill... Too bad apostates are loosing one battle after another recently... Instead of fighting with them on forum get your shit together and kick their asses, it's the best and only way to shut their mouths  :wink:

I have given my personal best at that I assure you. Killing Cotgs is where I get all my kills from. Killing Wolves is kind of a harder challenge. Il give em that. Those kuyakmy old friends have some skills.  :D And Apostates loosing a lot lately? Ehh win some, loose some. I rarely jump into Strattactics and stratrelated topics anyway, cause im not into this kind of stuff. But Niemand acting like a bigshot is some hilarious stuff. He is exactly what his name says: "Nobody".
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Falka on July 21, 2013, 09:10:07 pm
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I know it Kesh, recently I participated in most of their big battles, to be honest I doubt there's many players who have fought for apostates more than me in last 2 weeks :P And you're right, their main problem is roster, when they have guys with "YYY_" tag and 350 ping in battle u know that sth is terribly wrong, sth is fucked up :P Shit talking and gloating of wolves when they're ganking mercs witch such advantage of numbers is kinda silly, but equally silly is saying that wolves, cotgs and whoever else there is suck, while they're kicking mercs ass. 

And Apostates loosing a lot lately? Ehh win some, loose some.

No, recently they're mostly loosing. Okay, it's quite understandable regarding how many clans is going for them, but if they don't do anything they'll be wiped out of the map :P Just saying, I wouldn't want it cause recently I find strat battles really enjoyable.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Osiris on July 21, 2013, 09:19:38 pm
I think he was pointing out that most of the actual good fighting is being done by greys byz and co. I doubt cotgs members have kicked many arses :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on July 21, 2013, 09:26:19 pm
I think he was pointing out that most of the actual good fighting is being done by greys byz and co. I doubt cotgs members have kicked many arses :D
that,   i remember when we jsut got war with wolves or something and their roster was full of cotgs and wolves and some more random clans and it was easiest battle i have ever fought :)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Niemand on July 21, 2013, 09:44:34 pm
Yah. But even while we didnt kick many arses, we still took a city. Who cares about wasting troops, its a game. :D

If you only take people with good K:D you're a moron that didnt doesn't understand what "fairplay" is. ;)

(fixed some "grammar")
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on July 21, 2013, 09:53:55 pm
Yah. But even while we didnt kick many arses, we still took a city. Who cares about wasting troops, its a game. :D

If you only take people with good K:D you're a moron that didnt doesn't understand what "fairplay" is. ;)

(fixed some "grammar")
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4504
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4502
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4495
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4410
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4400
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4340
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4326

and these are only some examples of fairplay
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Conquisitore on July 21, 2013, 09:57:03 pm
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4504
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4502
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4495
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4410
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4400
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4340
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4326

and these are only some examples of fairplay

This are Mercs, you have to kill them before they spread like a disease
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 21, 2013, 10:02:41 pm
This is how a Wolves Roster goes:

3 Wolves
25 Greys
10 Druzhinas
10 Byzantiums
3 Randoms

How a Merc roster Goes:

10 mercs
10 coalitions
5 Desertes
26 Randoms


How Wolves trash talk:

OMG we are so pro we took all those fiefs by ourselves, lets MAKE A MILLION THREADS, so every knows how amazing we are

How Mercs trashtalk aafter  winning:

A congratulations in Teamspeak to everyone who joined
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Kan_Tervel on July 21, 2013, 10:24:28 pm
This is how a Wolves Roster goes:

3 Wolves
25 Greys
10 Druzhinas
10 Byzantiums
3 Randoms

How a Merc roster Goes:

10 mercs
10 coalitions
5 Desertes
26 Randoms


How Wolves trash talk:

OMG we are so pro we took all those fiefs by ourselves, lets MAKE A MILLION THREADS, so every knows how amazing we are

How Mercs trashtalk aafter  winning:

A congratulations in Teamspeak to everyone who joined

and Crusader Alliance does not exist  :shock:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Casimir on July 21, 2013, 10:29:47 pm
No we don't.  The CA is a lie.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 21, 2013, 10:34:26 pm
We get 1 to 2 CA, so we count them as random  :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 21, 2013, 10:42:17 pm
This is how a Wolves Roster goes:

3 Wolves
25 Greys
10 Druzhinas
10 Byzantiums
3 Randoms

How a Merc roster Goes:

10 mercs
10 coalitions
5 Desertes
26 Randoms


How Wolves trash talk:

OMG we are so pro we took all those fiefs by ourselves, lets MAKE A MILLION THREADS, so every knows how amazing we are

How Mercs trashtalk aafter  winning:

A congratulations in Teamspeak to everyone who joined

10 Byzantiums I wish :cry: I try to motivate these scumbags that are in my clan to join every big battle, but they be so lazy...
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Flans on July 21, 2013, 10:57:55 pm
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4504
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4502
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4495
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4410
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4400
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4340
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4326

and these are only some examples of fairplay


It's called a siege. This word may be foreign to you, but in English it means nobody goes in or out.

 
This is how a Wolves Roster goes:

3 Wolves
25 Greys
10 Druzhinas
10 Byzantiums
3 Randoms

How a Merc roster Goes:

10 mercs
10 coalitions
5 Desertes
26 Randoms


How Wolves trash talk:

OMG we are so pro we took all those fiefs by ourselves, lets MAKE A MILLION THREADS, so every knows how amazing we are

How Mercs trashtalk aafter  winning:

A congratulations in Teamspeak to everyone who joined

It's called making friends Strudog, the Wolves are fortunate to have very strong ties with its allies, as opposed to your lot.
this isn't an invitation for a merc to whine about previous strat rounds. Keep it current ladies, in this strat we were stabbed in the back while prepping our western armies. We are now in the process of paying you back for this affront. You are free to rage quit.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 21, 2013, 11:07:07 pm

It's called a siege. This word may be foreign to you, but in English it means nobody goes in or out.

 
It's called making friends Strudog, the Wolves are fortunate to have very strong ties with its allies, as opposed to your lot.
this isn't an invitation for a merc to whine about previous strat rounds. Keep it current ladies, in this strat we were stabbed in the back while prepping our western armies. We are now in the process of paying you back for this affront. You are free to rage quit.


Its called being controlled by the Greys, like every other faction (apart from Shu Han)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on July 21, 2013, 11:09:41 pm
brilliant escape from surrounded apostates village  muahah u cant catch us all, i spread all valuable items to 4 deserters and they deserted from fief so you cant take it all, you got 1 guy though :(  but 3 are still runing


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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 21, 2013, 11:16:00 pm
One down  8-)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on July 21, 2013, 11:16:11 pm
What app did you download Latvian?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on July 21, 2013, 11:17:23 pm
What app did you download Latvian?
i think it was this one http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-general-discussion/strategus-tool-belt-v1-0-5-3-%28improved-interface%29/msg721788/#msg721788
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Silicium on July 21, 2013, 11:24:31 pm
How could make us lose 100k of trade goods latvian, freaking potatos.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Razzer on July 21, 2013, 11:35:00 pm
Oh god strat, what are you doing to these people....?
Just deleted my main today, best feeling ever  8-)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Rebelyell on July 21, 2013, 11:40:32 pm
Just deleted my main today, best feeling ever  8-)

hmmmm
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on July 21, 2013, 11:41:18 pm
Just deleted my main today, best feeling ever  8-)
can i haz loomz?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Teeth on July 21, 2013, 11:43:15 pm
Part of that is that 70% of clanned eu mercenaries are allied against them all mercing together every fight - makes it difficult to even get full roster in many battles.  Makes sense that others would vulture in while they were busy fighting several of the largest eu factions, byzantium and grey order and kapikulu - doesn't make as much sense to be talking mad shit like they are super pro for joining a gangbang last and taking several of their fiefs behind their lines while they are outnumbered almost 3:1 in number of available mercs for battles. Most of those late night Sargoth battles ended up being all eu people on attackers side staying up to 4 am to fight a team of half na players in bugged equipment, not really a talking shit moment.  Frankly, mercenaries are doing much better job than some of the other factions who were attacked by over half the map at the same time.
Their side of the fighting has always had excellent rosters with exactly the same clans fighting for them. I remember thinking during a  battle, 'jeez they get some sick rosters'. Think it was this one, this was a Coalition battle though, so maybe you Mercs should do a cute smile and ask for some more Coalition aid. Tell me this is a bad roster.

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattleroster&id=4401

Last time I fought in an Apostates battle they had 78 people in their teamspeak. This was a month a go, but I think they still have all these clans supporting them.

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattleroster&id=3896

They got plenty of mercenary backing, just very weak turnout from especially their own but also closely allied factions. Perhaps all the turks, polaks and ruskies just don't do as much extravagant holidays as the more western clans do.

Besides, gangbanging one faction is just returning the favour. You don't get pity points from me anymore when the 30 man and very new Shu Han faction declared war unto the 100 man Crusader Alliance, only for them to be joined by the Coalition and Apostates.

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 21, 2013, 11:43:22 pm
no me pls razer
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 21, 2013, 11:51:15 pm
Saw World War Z today, reminded me of Furmy old friend Axis. Bunch of rabid zombie pups trying to bite modest and gentlemen and women. :cry:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Fips on July 21, 2013, 11:56:21 pm
Let's just agree that Coalition is far superior to Apostates!  :oops:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Osiris on July 21, 2013, 11:59:44 pm
weekend + crazy hot in west Europe = lack of people :D hell it allowed me to play <3



I don't understand the bragging tho. I mean no one on this forum really gives a crap apart from you and the more vocal enemies. If you win you win if you lose you lose <3 its not like there are any real skills required to be good at strat except activity :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 22, 2013, 12:09:41 am
2 down  8-)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: BASNAK on July 22, 2013, 12:25:46 am
Just deleted my main today, best feeling ever  8-)

Really? D:

You were always my favourite rager in cRPG :(
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: woody on July 22, 2013, 12:35:05 am
My 5 year old nephew flicks the board up in the air when he starts losing, blames luck, everyone else cheating then claims he never cared anyway and didnt want to win then goes away to sulk.

Dont know what made me think of this.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 22, 2013, 12:48:25 am
I think many have tried to point out the irrelevance of Strat, Osiris, but the message just gets lost.

Teeth and bagge for example, I got nothing against you guys, but you minus my posts when I think we already established how much effort I put into my posts in regards to Strategus. :lol:
And you know why I even post here? If you think it's because I care, then sorry to disappoint you. You guys are fucking hilarious, though, sperglording over Strategus when you barely even contribute to either side of this virtual "war". The only reason I am interested in Strat is because I get to openly trash talk after I win, or lose (god forbid?). I'm just pouring more fuel on the bonfire that is soon turning into a wildfire of hatred. That's my job, one I take pride in. Because then, maybe one day after the "us vs them" tragedy that is infesting Strat to a point where it's downright personal, you'll see the fucking joke. You're getting close, though, that much is evident.

I don't care if we lose or win, hell -- "we" is an illusion. "Beating" Strat holds no merit in the future, the only reason that it's any interesting is because the hatred that it creates spawns drama in its wake, thus in turn adding the real substance, the one thing that motivates everyone to spend time generating resources to get an edge over your enemies. If you were only interested in exp, we'd have funbattles every weekend or even friendly scrims. In the history of cRPG and Strategus, I think we've only had a few of those, and only one "faction" dedicated to funbattles, namely Pub Crawl. I really liked Pub Crawl, because it was a casual and relaxed alternative to the hormonal atmosphere you have in battles where you have those Grey cunts and Merc srsguise on each side. Naturally I prefer seriousness over being an opportunistic and ambitious cunt, but I prefer to stay out of it altogether.

Ask yourselves when you shout at people in Teamspeak for some insignificant mistake they did, is it worth it?
Sure, I've also felt like shunning some morons on our roster because they're fucking awful at this game, more worthful just acting as a meatshield than anything, but it's really hard to not care sometimes when your clanmates and allies are yelling simple instructions and seeing some people either do fuck-all or getting confused. However, that's just the way society and school raised us, incompetence breeds frustration. This is not the problem though, the problem is how much people invest their emotions into Strategus. It's sad, actually.

Especially when people like GRANDMOM make threads like these just to display their deluded sense of superiority, behind the comfort of internet with a smug smile on their faces while they receive backrubs from their clanmates and/or allies for some accomplishment done in an internet horses game.

Say whatever you want about me, I know what I've said and done in the past of my stay in this community. Chances are I'd agree with you, but you wouldn't accomplish anything. Just making this post here to clarify some things, and maybe change some perspectives. Although I think that would be asking too much of some people here.

I have to give it to you though, Diplomacy section is a seemingly endless source of amusement.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on July 22, 2013, 12:54:52 am
2 down  8-)
  :cry:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on July 22, 2013, 12:57:19 am
I think many have tried to point out the irrelevance of Strat, Osiris, but the message just gets lost.

Teeth and bagge for example, I got nothing against you guys, but you minus my posts when I think we already established how much effort I put into my posts in regards to Strategus. :lol:
And you know why I even post here? If you think it's because I care, then sorry to disappoint you. You guys are fucking hilarious, though, sperglording over Strategus when you barely even contribute to either side of this virtual "war". The only reason I am interested in Strat is because I get to openly trash talk after I win, or lose (god forbid?). I'm just pouring more fuel on the bonfire that is soon turning into a wildfire of hatred. That's my job, one I take pride in. Because then, maybe one day after the "us vs them" tragedy that is infesting Strat to a point where it's downright personal, you'll see the fucking joke. You're getting close, though, that much is evident.

I don't care if we lose or win, hell -- "we" is an illusion. "Beating" Strat holds no merit in the future, the only reason that it's any interesting is because the hatred that it creates spawns drama in its wake, thus in turn adding the real substance, the one thing that motivates everyone to spend time generating resources to get an edge over your enemies. If you were only interested in exp, we'd have funbattles every weekend or even friendly scrims. In the history of cRPG and Strategus, I think we've only had a few of those, and only one "faction" dedicated to funbattles, namely Pub Crawl. I really liked Pub Crawl, because it was a casual and relaxed alternative to the hormonal atmosphere you have in battles where you have those Grey cunts and Merc srsguise on each side. Naturally I prefer seriousness over being an opportunistic and ambitious cunt, but I prefer to stay out of it altogether.

Ask yourselves when you shout at people in Teamspeak for some insignificant mistake they did, is it worth it?
Sure, I've also felt like shunning some morons on our roster because they're fucking awful at this game, more worthful just acting as a meatshield than anything, but it's really hard to not care sometimes when your clanmates and allies are yelling simple instructions and seeing some people either do fuck-all or getting confused. However, that's just the way society and school raised us, incompetence breeds frustration. This is not the problem though, the problem is how much people invest their emotions into Strategus. It's sad, actually.

Especially when people like GRANDMOM make threads like these just to display their deluded sense of superiority, behind the comfort of internet with a smug smile on their faces while they receive backrubs from their clanmates and/or allies for some accomplishment done in an internet horses game.

Say whatever you want about me, I know what I've said and done in the past of my stay in this community. Chances are I'd agree with you, but you wouldn't accomplish anything. Just making this post here to clarify some things, and maybe change some perspectives. Although I think that would be asking too much of some people here.

I have to give it to you though, Diplomacy section is a seemingly endless source of amusement.

i cried  ;( 

<01:55:19> "Silicium": i cryed
<01:55:21> "Silicium": a tear
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tuetensuppe on July 22, 2013, 12:59:38 am
I think many have tried to point out the irrelevance of Strat, Osiris, but the message just gets lost.

Teeth and bagge for example, I got nothing against you guys, but you minus my posts when I think we already established how much effort I put into my posts in regards to Strategus. :lol:
And you know why I even post here? If you think it's because I care, then sorry to disappoint you. You guys are fucking hilarious, though, sperglording over Strategus when you barely even contribute to either side of this virtual "war". The only reason I am interested in Strat is because I get to openly trash talk after I win, or lose (god forbid?). I'm just pouring more fuel on the bonfire that is soon turning into a wildfire of hatred. That's my job, one I take pride in. Because then, maybe one day after the "us vs them" tragedy that is infesting Strat to a point where it's downright personal, you'll see the fucking joke. You're getting close, though, that much is evident.

I don't care if we lose or win, hell -- "we" is an illusion. "Beating" Strat holds no merit in the future, the only reason that it's any interesting is because the hatred that it creates spawns drama in its wake, thus in turn adding the real substance, the one thing that motivates everyone to spend time generating resources to get an edge over your enemies. If you were only interested in exp, we'd have funbattles every weekend or even friendly scrims. In the history of cRPG and Strategus, I think we've only had a few of those, and only one "faction" dedicated to funbattles, namely Pub Crawl. I really liked Pub Crawl, because it was a casual and relaxed alternative to the hormonal atmosphere you have in battles where you have those Grey cunts and Merc srsguise on each side. Naturally I prefer seriousness over being an opportunistic and ambitious cunt, but I prefer to stay out of it altogether.

Ask yourselves when you shout at people in Teamspeak for some insignificant mistake they did, is it worth it?
Sure, I've also felt like shunning some morons on our roster because they're fucking awful at this game, more worthful just acting as a meatshield than anything, but it's really hard to not care sometimes when your clanmates and allies are yelling simple instructions and seeing some people either do fuck-all or getting confused. However, that's just the way society and school raised us, incompetence breeds frustration. This is not the problem though, the problem is how much people invest their emotions into Strategus. It's sad, actually.

Especially when people like GRANDMOM make threads like these just to display their deluded sense of superiority, behind the comfort of internet with a smug smile on their faces while they receive backrubs from their clanmates and/or allies for some accomplishment done in an internet horses game.

Say whatever you want about me, I know what I've said and done in the past of my stay in this community. Chances are I'd agree with you, but you wouldn't accomplish anything. Just making this post here to clarify some things, and maybe change some perspectives. Although I think that would be asking too much of some people here.

I have to give it to you though, Diplomacy section is a seemingly endless source of amusement.

if i ever need an unban essay...that one would by mine for sure!   :wink:

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: BASNAK on July 22, 2013, 01:03:25 am
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 22, 2013, 01:07:43 am
Shit, I got downvoted by some French illiterate cunt who wouldn't be able to decipher a basic sentence in English if he was brainwashed to do it.

brb mustering army in strat, gonna attack Overdosed dildoEs for this insolence
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Teeth on July 22, 2013, 01:13:58 am
I think many have tried to point out the irrelevance of Strat, Osiris, but the message just gets lost.

Teeth and bagge for example, I got nothing against you guys, but you minus my posts when I think we already established how much effort I put into my posts in regards to Strategus. :lol:
And you know why I even post here? If you think it's because I care, then sorry to disappoint you. You guys are fucking hilarious, though, sperglording over Strategus when you barely even contribute to either side of this virtual "war". The only reason I am interested in Strat is because I get to openly trash talk after I win, or lose (god forbid?). I'm just pouring more fuel on the bonfire that is soon turning into a wildfire of hatred. That's my job, one I take pride in. Because then, maybe one day after the "us vs them" tragedy that is infesting Strat to a point where it's downright personal, you'll see the fucking joke. You're getting close, though, that much is evident.

I don't care if we lose or win, hell -- "we" is an illusion. "Beating" Strat holds no merit in the future, the only reason that it's any interesting is because the hatred that it creates spawns drama in its wake, thus in turn adding the real substance, the one thing that motivates everyone to spend time generating resources to get an edge over your enemies. If you were only interested in exp, we'd have funbattles every weekend or even friendly scrims. In the history of cRPG and Strategus, I think we've only had a few of those, and only one "faction" dedicated to funbattles, namely Pub Crawl. I really liked Pub Crawl, because it was a casual and relaxed alternative to the hormonal atmosphere you have in battles where you have those Grey cunts and Merc srsguise on each side. Naturally I prefer seriousness over being an opportunistic and ambitious cunt, but I prefer to stay out of it altogether.

Ask yourselves when you shout at people in Teamspeak for some insignificant mistake they did, is it worth it?
Sure, I've also felt like shunning some morons on our roster because they're fucking awful at this game, more worthful just acting as a meatshield than anything, but it's really hard to not care sometimes when your clanmates and allies are yelling simple instructions and seeing some people either do fuck-all or getting confused. However, that's just the way society and school raised us, incompetence breeds frustration. This is not the problem though, the problem is how much people invest their emotions into Strategus. It's sad, actually.

Especially when people like GRANDMOM make threads like these just to display their deluded sense of superiority, behind the comfort of internet with a smug smile on their faces while they receive backrubs from their clanmates and/or allies for some accomplishment done in an internet horses game.

Say whatever you want about me, I know what I've said and done in the past of my stay in this community. Chances are I'd agree with you, but you wouldn't accomplish anything. Just making this post here to clarify some things, and maybe change some perspectives. Although I think that would be asking too much of some people here.

I have to give it to you though, Diplomacy section is a seemingly endless source of amusement.
Hey look, it's Bjord getting on his high horse, thinking his mentality is oh so different and superior. Yawn. I minus your posts because you are an asswipe.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on July 22, 2013, 01:21:30 am
Its called being controlled by the Greys, like every other faction (apart from Shu Han)

Cut the crap. Your false impression is just result of the fact that UIF ( United Independent Factions) is more an idea or assumption than alliance. For a long time  your actions perpetuate people in belief that cooperation is only way to avoid tyranny and they have damn right, and now, it's time for you to eat sour fruits of your arrogance. In the next life, try to be nicer to others  :wink:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 22, 2013, 01:25:32 am
I'm an asswipe because your feelings got chipped, that's understandable. The voting system is another hilarious thing though. :wink:

What's so high and mighty in realizing that it's all just a game? I'm just glad I finally realized. :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Silicium on July 22, 2013, 01:40:59 am
Cut the crap. Your false impression is just result of the fact that UIF ( United Independent Factions) is more an idea or assumption than alliance. For a long time  your actions perpetuate people in belief that cooperation is only way to avoid tyranny and they have damn right, and now, it's time for you to eat sour fruits of your arrogance. In the next life, try to be nicer to others  :wink:
Try and make him eat those fruits, ironic how people act as if they had the physical power of forcing someone to do something over some virtual game.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 22, 2013, 01:44:25 am
Cut the crap. Your false impression is just result of the fact that UIF ( United Independent Factions) is more an idea or assumption than alliance. For a long time  your actions perpetuate people in belief that cooperation is only way to avoid tyranny and they have damn right, and now, it's time for you to eat sour fruits of your arrogance. In the next life, try to be nicer to others  :wink:

Your posts always make me laugh. You're so deep in shit with Strategus that you forgot how bad it smells when you open your mouth, only to allow more shit to spread.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Casimir on July 22, 2013, 01:55:30 am
I went outside once and now 'i have a life' and so look down on all you nerds.


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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 22, 2013, 02:03:01 am
If you're trying to be condescending, Casimir, you'll have to do better.

I know the truth stings, especially since you're the leader of a faction in Strategus, and especially since you've been engulfed in the *deep and intricate politics of Strategus since the very beginning.

And I'm a huge nerd myself, so if I would look down on you solely because of that, I'd be pissing in headwind.

* Note: Sarcasm
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: vipere on July 22, 2013, 02:05:41 am
Shit, I got downvoted by some French illiterate cunt who wouldn't be able to decipher a basic sentence in English if he was brainwashed to do it.

My bad english is one of the reasons i don't post on this forum, i chose to learn Breton instead of English at School and i actually try to speak and write a bit more english sentences because i want to learn it.

I ask you to moderate your words, i see more and more insults in your posts, try to treat other players with respect and civility, Thanks.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Casimir on July 22, 2013, 02:06:08 am
Note: i don't give a shit about strat, i just think you're chatting shit.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 22, 2013, 02:06:25 am
I think many have tried to point out the irrelevance of Strat, Osiris, but the message just gets lost.

Teeth and bagge for example, I got nothing against you guys, but you minus my posts when I think we already established how much effort I put into my posts in regards to Strategus. :lol:
And you know why I even post here? If you think it's because I care, then sorry to disappoint you. You guys are fucking hilarious, though, sperglording over Strategus when you barely even contribute to either side of this virtual "war". The only reason I am interested in Strat is because I get to openly trash talk after I win, or lose (god forbid?). I'm just pouring more fuel on the bonfire that is soon turning into a wildfire of hatred. That's my job, one I take pride in. Because then, maybe one day after the "us vs them" tragedy that is infesting Strat to a point where it's downright personal, you'll see the fucking joke. You're getting close, though, that much is evident.

I don't care if we lose or win, hell -- "we" is an illusion. "Beating" Strat holds no merit in the future, the only reason that it's any interesting is because the hatred that it creates spawns drama in its wake, thus in turn adding the real substance, the one thing that motivates everyone to spend time generating resources to get an edge over your enemies. If you were only interested in exp, we'd have funbattles every weekend or even friendly scrims. In the history of cRPG and Strategus, I think we've only had a few of those, and only one "faction" dedicated to funbattles, namely Pub Crawl. I really liked Pub Crawl, because it was a casual and relaxed alternative to the hormonal atmosphere you have in battles where you have those Grey cunts and Merc srsguise on each side. Naturally I prefer seriousness over being an opportunistic and ambitious cunt, but I prefer to stay out of it altogether.

Ask yourselves when you shout at people in Teamspeak for some insignificant mistake they did, is it worth it?
Sure, I've also felt like shunning some morons on our roster because they're fucking awful at this game, more worthful just acting as a meatshield than anything, but it's really hard to not care sometimes when your clanmates and allies are yelling simple instructions and seeing some people either do fuck-all or getting confused. However, that's just the way society and school raised us, incompetence breeds frustration. This is not the problem though, the problem is how much people invest their emotions into Strategus. It's sad, actually.

Especially when people like GRANDMOM make threads like these just to display their deluded sense of superiority, behind the comfort of internet with a smug smile on their faces while they receive backrubs from their clanmates and/or allies for some accomplishment done in an internet horses game.

Say whatever you want about me, I know what I've said and done in the past of my stay in this community. Chances are I'd agree with you, but you wouldn't accomplish anything. Just making this post here to clarify some things, and maybe change some perspectives. Although I think that would be asking too much of some people here.

I have to give it to you though, Diplomacy section is a seemingly endless source of amusement.

Bjord, have you ever felt the need to intimidate your opponent with utterly ridiculous words?

Even so, If you feel that your trash talking is ineffective, its probably a good idea to hold your horse a bit. Many people have built an immunity to trash talking (especially bad trash talking) and therefore it doesnt affect them much at all, especially if they are at the moment winning the game you are currently playing. If you run across this kind of person, your best call is to just shut your mouth and own them at whatever you are playing (strat). If you cannot, then stop making a fool out of yourself and go see a Justin Bieber consert.

If many people hear you talking trash and then see you lose, no one will respect you or give you cred. Also, your opponent could make fun of you (im sorry) . If you feel you are losing, stop trash talking. Continuing will only make your downfall even worse. You must be willing to put your money where your mouth is, which is an expression that means to do what you say you are going to to do (mighty hammer of doom), even when you are talking trash.

And, if you dont care about this game - try playing another  :mrgreen:

*and on a serious note - If you really would like to discuss the thoughts you describe in your post, Im up for it

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 22, 2013, 02:20:57 am
I know another place where you can put your money, pup.

See? Trash talking is not about reinforcing the worth of your actions but simply to trash talk. Winning only makes it sweeter. I don't care if nobody is affected by it, if my friends can laugh in Teamspeak "Good old Bjord, never change.", then I'm happy. If you think I care whether or not you're upset, then once again, you do me too much credit.

Oh, but I do care about this game, else I wouldn't be playing it. I'm simply pointing out the fact how you're trying to blow something out of proportion. I'm not one for humility unless it's required to be taken seriously, so don't take my word for it, but you some of you (especially you) seriously lack it, which is why it's so hard for some of us not to call your bullshit posts out sometimes. It doesn't mean anyone's butthurt, it's just that you unintentionally provoke further hostility where it's not needed. And all of this stems from the deep investment of your emotions and level of care in Strategus. The sooner you realize it's just a game, the more fun it will be for everyone.

I like the general outlook of Strat at the moment, because yes it is interesting, thanks to you guys. You do deserve credit for that, make no mistake. Underdog factions unite under one cause: to wipe veteran clan Mercs & Co. I very much like that angle. Just keep it classy, man. No need for threads just because you took fiefs from us. Maybe when and if you win the war, you could make a grand, RP post like the Diplomacy section was meant for. Fuck, is that so much to ask for? Decency and modesty? :lol:

My bad english is one of the reasons i don't post on this forum, i chose to learn Breton instead of English at School and i actually try to speak and write a bit more english sentences because i want to learn it.

I ask you to moderate your words, i see more and more insults in your posts, try to treat other players with respect and civility, Thanks.

Just ignore me if it bothers you, there's an option for that if you go to your control panel.

Note: i don't give a shit about strat, i just think you're chatting shit.

Well, that's too bad. Luckily, we're on the internet and I'm afraid what you think is of little concern to me. Just like I'm sure you don't care when I say I think you care more about Strat than you would dare to admit.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Casimir on July 22, 2013, 02:37:16 am
Correct, what people say over the internet is really of no consequence. But pointless arguments are such a good way to pass the time and that is basically all strat is good for.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 22, 2013, 02:43:10 am
I know another place where you can put your money, pup.

See? Trash talking is not about reinforcing the worth of your actions but simply to trash talk. Winning only makes it sweeter. I don't care if nobody is affected by it, if my friends can laugh in Teamspeak "Good old Bjord, never change.", then I'm happy. If you think I care whether or not you're upset, then once again, you do me too much credit.

Oh, but I do care about this game, else I wouldn't be playing it. I'm simply pointing out the fact how you're trying to blow something out of proportion. I'm not one for humility unless it's required to be taken seriously, so don't take my word for it, but you some of you (especially you) seriously lack it, which is why it's so hard for some of us not to call your bullshit posts out sometimes. It doesn't mean anyone's butthurt, it's just that you unintentionally provoke further hostility where it's not needed. And all of this stems from the deep investment of your emotions and level of care in Strategus. The sooner you realize it's just a game, the more fun it will be for everyone.

I like the general outlook of Strat at the moment, because yes it is interesting, thanks to you guys. You do deserve credit for that, make no mistake. Underdog factions unite under one cause: to wipe veteran clan Mercs & Co. I very much like that angle. Just keep it classy, man. No need for threads just because you took fiefs from us. Maybe when and if you win the war, you could make a grand, RP post like the Diplomacy section was meant for. Fuck, is that so much to ask for? Decency and modesty? :lol:

*WARNING* Serious post coming up *WARNING*

You know what Bjord - I like you

But, this is just trash talking from my side, and perhaps you dont get provoked or you do, I dont know. But the fact is that, these threads had their purposes, and believe me it was not to try and make us look superior :)

Trash talk IS effective, it gets on peoples nerves, it makes them angry, it makes them feel frustrated and it makes them make bad decisions. Also when on a loosing streak, which you are now, its harder to get to work and play the game right with the trashtalk ecoing inside your head. Im sure that some/most mercs have not been provoked by our trashtalk, but definately some. Has it worked to our favour? Yes, people see and read, then roster for us, offering help and so on. What we have been trying to do is to make the merc clan (which has a history of being a great clan) more "mortal" so to speak, so small clans wouldnt hesitate as much in joining the war against you.

Belive it or not, I would have had no problem, in the next strat, actually I would find it interessting, to fight alongside any of my enemies this strat. I wouldnt have a problem with it, I play strat to have fun, and to help my team to win, just like a soccer game.

Its not like all Mercs are like this and that, or all woves are like so, all greys do that or all Coalition is this way. This is bullshit of course, we are all guys from different parts of the world playing teh same game and what made us join or start different clans is mere luck or chance.

Like I said before, Im sure some mercs are good guys, just like some greys are good guys and so on.

But this strat we have a goal and you know it, if we dont succeed well then be it, we would have had fun and hopefully you would have to

Well, back to trashtalking in the next post...no more of this BS :)


Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 22, 2013, 02:47:07 am
I'm an asswipe because your feelings got chipped, that's understandable.

No Bjord, you're an asswipe cause you lack manners.

Oh well, everyone matures eventually, even asswipe kids.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 22, 2013, 02:57:46 am
Bjord? Bjord?? Come back!!!! Without you here I cant verify my own existense, or make me the big superior strategic monster Granny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 22, 2013, 03:02:27 am
Three down  8-)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 22, 2013, 03:05:30 am
Correct, what people say over the internet is really of no consequence. But pointless arguments are such a good way to pass the time and that is basically all strat is good for.

When you put it that way, this whole community and its forums are redundant. Much like almost everything is pointless in the grand scheme of life.

Yet we linger, often to make our voices heard, as if people would truly take to heart the things we write here.

I don't expect everyone to take my posts seriously, obviously that train passed long ago and my credibility is long reduced to what my reputation reflects. Still, there are some who care and as long as some do, I'll continue making my voice heard. Even if it's resented by some, especially those who look at my posts and think "asswipe". That, and because you wouldn't understand half the things I find amusing. :lol:

So you say I chat shit yet some would beg to differ, just like I say you chat shit yet some would beg to differ. Opinions, bro, everyone has one.

*WARNING* Serious post coming up *WARNING*

You know what Bjord - I like you

But, this is just trash talking from my side, and perhaps you dont get provoked or you do, I dont know. But the fact is that, these threads had their purposes, and believe me it was not to try and make us look superior :)

Trash talk IS effective, it gets on peoples nerves, it makes them angry, it makes them feel frustrated and it makes them make bad decisions. Also when on a loosing streak, which you are now, its harder to get to work and play the game right with the trashtalk ecoing inside your head. Im sure that some/most mercs have not been provoked by our trashtalk, but definately some. Has it worked to our favour? Yes, people see and read, then roster for us, offering help and so on. What we have been trying to do is to make the merc clan (which has a history of being a great clan) more "mortal" so to speak, so small clans wouldnt hesitate as much in joining the war against you.

Belive it or not, I would have had no problem, in the next strat, actually I would find it interessting, to fight alongside any of my enemies this strat. I wouldnt have a problem with it, I play strat to have fun, and to help my team to win, just like a soccer game.

Its not like all Mercs are like this and that, or all woves are like so, all greys do that or all Coalition is this way. This is bullshit of course, we are all guys from different parts of the world playing teh same game and what made us join or start different clans is mere luck or chance.

Like I said before, Im sure some mercs are good guys, just like some greys are good guys and so on.

But this strat we have a goal and you know it, if we dont succeed well then be it, we would have had fun and hopefully you would have to

Well, back to trashtalking in the next post...no more of this BS :)

I suppose we have different ideas of trash talk. I see it for what it is, while you see it as a means to win favour and support, a strategy to further the downfall of your enemies. Which is fine, I guess. Doesn't mean I (or we for that matter) will like it, and of course, we'll protest, since it isn't "fair play". Showmanship belongs on the battlefield, not the forums. You'd win far more favour (even from us) if you were more creative than resorting to the forums like a bitch hound, howling for some pounding.

In fact, I can see why you get along with the Greys so much. You want to win as bad as they, but unlike them you actually possess some creativity. Their ambitiousness and opportunistic demeanor coupled with an underdog's unyielding hunger for victory. You'll do anything to win, which is why we don't like you.

Then again, asking you to play by the rules is perhaps asking you to lose.

This war is probably a fine example of new school vs old school, you emply tactics that some of us feel are unfair while you see it as intelligent strategies. It's all relative. :wink:

No Bjord, you're an asswipe cause you lack manners.

Oh well, everyone matures eventually, even asswipe kids.

Oh I disagree, I possess very exquisite manners. I just don't divulge them unto rabble, no offense. Your lackluster posts just make me yawn, and often I make very half-assed posts during such yawns. I can see how such posts would make you irate, though. :wink:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Casimir on July 22, 2013, 03:14:54 am
Opinions, bro, everyone has one.

Yeah but mine are better.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 22, 2013, 03:15:27 am
Yeah but mine are better.

I beg to differ.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 22, 2013, 03:20:49 am
Isnt "fair play"? - so using the forums diplomacy section to gain an edge isnt fair play, have you even read the forums?

"You'll do anything to win, which is why we don't like you." - so its personal now, its not just a game anymore, well then good to know Bjord u are sad really.....

"Then again, asking you to play by the rules is perhaps asking you to lose." - rules broken? Please tell me more Bjord, about what rules we have broken, we attacked you and you couldnt defend urself - tough luck kitten

From your last post, we can all read between the lines that you have responded like a looser to trashtalk and that you are far from immune to it, even if you try hard to be a hardcase - and that if u cant take the heat of the trash talk (which u obviously cant) then please leave the kitchen in an orderly manner and go play some Gin rummy.

You are taking this so seriously, the fact that your mighty merc empire crumbled in 3 weeks from a bunch of small claners is making you whine like a 6 year old loosing a game of monopoly.

Good night Bjord, you really are a silly sod



Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 22, 2013, 03:25:37 am
Oh I disagree, I possess very exquisite manners. I just don't divulge them unto rabble, no offense. Your lackluster posts just make me yawn, and often I make very half-assed posts during such yawns. I can see how such posts would make you irate, though. :wink:

I don't devote myself to my forum posts, even if lackluster posts make you yawn I don't really give a shit.

Meh, I shouldn't be arguing with you, not worth my time
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on July 22, 2013, 03:36:47 am
Again, you really think I speak for everyone? :lol:

God, it's so fucking easy to do this. All I did was add some "we"'s and such and it's on again. The "us vs them" joke.

If you read my opening post here before I went back to trash talking, you'd know I don't give two shits about how you win the war. Even less who wins the war.

But I'm sure you have set your opinion of how I'm upset about the "Merc Empire" crumbling. So yes, I bid thee good night and I'm sure you'll sleep well knowing you 'bested' me in this 'trash talking bout'. Meanwhile, I'll be enjoying my sleep as well, knowing the next episode of Diplomacy drama tomorrow is secured.

And you have the audacity to claim I don't read the forums? You're all my monkies, and I'm having you dance in my palms. Get to my level, son.

I don't devote myself to my forum posts, even if lackluster posts make you yawn I don't really give a shit.

Meh, I shouldn't be arguing with you, not worth my time

Yes, clearly your time is very precious, 3:35 AM in the morning. So many important things to do.
As I said, lackluster. :wink:

Goodnight, chimps.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 22, 2013, 03:40:17 am
Again, you really think I speak for everyone? :lol:

God, it's so fucking easy to do this. All I did was add some "we"'s and such and it's on again. The "us vs them" joke.

If you read my opening post here before I went back to trash talking, you'd know I don't give two shits about how you win the war. Even less who wins the war.

But I'm sure you have set your opinion of how I'm upset about the "Merc Empire" crumbling. So yes, I bid thee good night and I'm sure you'll sleep well knowing you 'bested' me in this 'trash talking bout'. Meanwhile, I'll be enjoying my sleep as well, knowing the next episode of Diplomacy drama tomorrow is secured.

And you have the audacity to claim I don't read the forums? You're all my monkies, and I'm having you dance in my palms. Get to my level, son.

Yes, clearly your time is very precious, 3:35 AM in the morning. So many important things to do.
As I said, lackluster. :wink:

Goodnight, chimps.
Justin, getting to your level means I would have to respec  :lol:

No drama tomorrow, busy with real life m8 - u should try it sometime would do u good
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Casimir on July 22, 2013, 03:43:03 am
I reckon if bjord doesn't post here in the next three days he admits that his will is subservient to mine and I am both his king and god.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 22, 2013, 07:54:32 am
Sounds about right Casi, makes sence on top of it all. So counting from now - on the third day he shall awake a new man and you, Casi will awake - responsable for his every move  :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 22, 2013, 08:52:18 am
brilliant escape from surrounded apostates village  muahah u cant catch us all, i spread all valuable items to 4 deserters and they deserted from fief so you cant take it all, you got 1 guy though :(  but 3 are still runing


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And 4 down  8-)

But we have been guessing as to if this is a smart trick or not, we will see, perhaps we will only find dresses on these guys, brought to Jeirbe castle for a royal ball or something
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 22, 2013, 10:52:17 am
Greys i think you might be interested in this:

http://forum.meleegaming.com/general-off-topic/selling-warband-cd-keys-paypal-$3-non-steam/ (http://forum.meleegaming.com/general-off-topic/selling-warband-cd-keys-paypal-$3-non-steam/)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Erasmas on July 22, 2013, 11:02:00 am
No, thank you, we are good for now.  :rolleyes:

It is interesting, though, that it drew your attention.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bavvoz on July 22, 2013, 01:49:41 pm
Where do u guys get the energy for all this argumentation? :D Let the battles decide whos winning!

Im gonna go against the stream and congratulate our attackers for what u have accomplished. I have no idea if we can turn the events but atleast i wont give up :)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 22, 2013, 02:48:50 pm
Im sure u wont give up bavvoz, and Im sure you have something up your sleeve  8-)

Hope for many fun battles ahead, good luck and have fun bavvoz, and whoever wins - congratz
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Niemand on July 22, 2013, 04:36:03 pm
I winz! :3

Started with 6k troops in my town, nearly no equip and around 600k gold... And I am going out with 8k good equipped troops in my town and one million Gold in my pocket. AND Level 31. :D WHO's YA'R DADDI!? :3
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on July 22, 2013, 05:06:25 pm
I don't know, he left me when i was a child.  :cry:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Turkhammer on July 22, 2013, 06:08:18 pm
And 4 down  8-)

But we have been guessing as to if this is a smart trick or not, we will see, perhaps we will only find dresses on these guys, brought to Jeirbe castle for a royal ball or something

Hmm, I have STB but I don't get those map filter options.  Do you have additional scripts for that?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Pandemona on July 23, 2013, 01:12:50 pm
No Mercs in our lands, big armies or small ones, I don't care, if you come to us you will be attacked

Thanks to you, i managed to go safe area (after defeat) faster than i expected.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on July 23, 2013, 04:03:24 pm
Fullcream_The_Grey vs Merc_Phase_the_Seal_Clubber

Today at 18:25

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4526

Apostates additional information:

"An army of sheeps led by a Lion is better then an army of lions led by a sheep. An army of sheeps led by a Pussy is better then an army of Pussy`s led by a sheep. Welcome to our battle, join teamspeak server 30 min before and be online on the TS to be sure to join. TS_ astra.mrjlab.com love Gingerpussy"

 :lol:  :rolleyes:  :lol:  :twisted:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Vovka on July 23, 2013, 04:32:49 pm
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merc from apostate's army

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcTAP7AYdus
 :twisted:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Turkhammer on July 23, 2013, 11:09:19 pm
Fullcream_The_Grey vs Merc_Phase_the_Seal_Clubber

Today at 18:25

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4526

Apostates additional information:

"An army of sheeps led by a Lion is better then an army of lions led by a sheep. An army of sheeps led by a Pussy is better then an army of Pussy`s led by a sheep. Welcome to our battle, join teamspeak server 30 min before and be online on the TS to be sure to join. TS_ astra.mrjlab.com love Gingerpussy"

 :lol:  :rolleyes:  :lol:  :twisted:

Plural of sheep is sheep.
Plural of pussy is pussies.
I just can't abide the language being mangled.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Perverz on July 23, 2013, 11:16:14 pm
bunch of dickheads here........ stop arguing ffs!!!!!!!
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: darmaster on July 24, 2013, 05:40:26 pm
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Noctivagant on July 25, 2013, 02:40:00 pm
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summer vacation hgh
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on July 25, 2013, 04:17:00 pm
Plural of sheep is sheep.
Plural of pussy is pussies.
I just can't abide the language being mangled.

I hope you understand that it was direct quote from Pussy, and not my joyful creativity  :wink:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Turkhammer on July 25, 2013, 06:20:09 pm
I hope you understand that it was direct quote from Pussy, and not my joyful creativity  :wink:

It was a public service announcement. :wink:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on July 29, 2013, 07:25:55 am
just a   reminder  http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-general-discussion/grey-order-strat-announcement/
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Macropus on July 29, 2013, 12:17:01 pm
just a   reminder  http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-general-discussion/grey-order-strat-announcement/
Doesn't mean they totally stopped playing strat.
as a clan, we will limit our activity to the minimum and, in particular, we will no longer make any further effort to build armies or develop economy
So they beat you with minimum activity and without any effort to build armies or develop economy.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 29, 2013, 12:20:08 pm
Doesn't mean they totally stopped playing strat. So they beat you with minimum activity and without any effort to build armies or develop economy.

I think grey order is by far the most active clan in strat at this point (eu side ofc), so minimum activity doesn't really describe it well  :wink:

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Macropus on July 29, 2013, 12:41:49 pm
I think grey order is by far the most active clan in strat at this point (eu side ofc), so minimum activity doesn't really describe it well  :wink:
It does, the normal activity would imply massive multiaccounting.  :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Erasmas on July 29, 2013, 02:33:42 pm
It does, the normal activity would imply massive multiaccounting.  :P

Keeping this approach, it definitely is a minimal activity atm  :D :D

We did not change our position on that issue though. Reasonable and limited accountsharing should be allowed. It really happens that clan needs to do something urgently, lots of guys puts effort into having fun, arranging things, and every so often some moron disappears just to ruin the fun. You may say "shit happens", but it is frustrating and disheartening. It should be limited indeed, trust me, no one wants to see the clans operated by one guy. Strat ticks did an excellent work here. This was the most important change in Strat ever.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 29, 2013, 02:47:10 pm
Keeping this approach, it definitely is a minimal activity atm  :D :D

We did not change our position on that issue though. Reasonable and limited accountsharing should be allowed. It really happens that clan needs to do something urgently, lots of guys puts effort into having fun, arranging things, and every so often some moron disappears just to ruin the fun. You may say "shit happens", but it is frustrating and disheartening. It should be limited indeed, trust me, no one wants to see the clans operated by one guy. Strat ticks did an excellent work here. This was the most important change in Strat ever.

First line of your "approach this strat"

We would like to inform you that Grey Order is resigning from the participation in this Strategus round, and – most probably  - from participation in the following rounds as well.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Erasmas on July 29, 2013, 03:05:28 pm
There was a clear reason for that, don't forget it. It was not a strategic move, we all were seriously pissed off. And we really quit. After few months we found out that there some guys still want to play. In addition we got convinced - rightly or not - that there will be some change of attitude. Simple as that. So - fuck off Haboe, you won't get too much out of this.

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 29, 2013, 03:14:04 pm
There was a clear reason for that, don't forget it. It was not a strategic move, we all were seriously pissed off. And we really quit. After few months we found out that there some guys still want to play. In addition we got convinced - rightly or not - that there will be some change of attitude. Simple as that. So - fuck off Haboe, you won't get too much out of this.

I'm not on this forum to gain anything  :wink:
Just letting ppl know that the whole topic you made there, was a simply GTX for a few weeks, and can be considered simple butthurt drama because you were caught cheating :mrgreen:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Fips on July 29, 2013, 03:14:47 pm
Guess what, everybody else was very pissed as well that you pulled off that crap for such a long time without any sanctions. And they didn't stop playing.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Erasmas on July 29, 2013, 03:19:31 pm
I'm not on this forum to gain anything  :wink:
Just letting ppl know that the whole topic you made there, was a simply GTX for a few weeks, and can be considered simple butthurt drama because you were caught cheating :mrgreen:

Moron.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Erasmas on July 29, 2013, 04:57:05 pm
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Erasmas,

You have received a warning for spamming in regards to the message:
Re: War on Apostates (http://forum.meleegaming.com/index.php?msg=832052).

Please cease these activities and abide by the forum rules otherwise we will take further action.

Regards,
The Melee Gaming Team.

Spamming? It was not spamming, it was an answer to the doubts raised by the persons in question to whom the thread relates. I see two possibilities:

1. you do not like what I wrote about accountsharing;
2. you do not like that I called Haboe moron.

If so, have balls to admit that it is one of the above.

Spamming ... pffff

[EDIT]

I just got second warning - for this particular post. This convinced me to review the forum rules again. I now understand what I did wrong:

- no one liners - if you have something to say, put some effort in it.

I humbly accept the punishment. My apologies. Next time I'll try to be more eloquent.  :wink:

 
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 29, 2013, 06:05:20 pm
If you haven't been warned for a diplomacy post, then you're doing something wrong.

Oh btw, since you Apostates seem to have ignored it in the Fisdnar thread, I'm giving FPoF 1200 troops, since I can't lead them myself, to reclaim Fisdnar. Enjoy enen MORE NA scum attacking you.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 29, 2013, 08:38:31 pm
If you haven't been warned for a diplomacy post, then you're doing something wrong.

Oh btw, since you Apostates seem to have ignored it in the Fisdnar thread, I'm giving FPoF 1200 troops, since I can't lead them myself, to reclaim Fisdnar. Enjoy enen MORE NA scum attacking you.

Looks like someone hasn't had their nap time and is a bit moody, stop throwing your toys out of the pram and take a chill pill, you've made it clear you dont like the Mercs multiple times and i dont know why, go away and gain a set of maturity and then post here again
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 29, 2013, 09:02:14 pm
Looks like someone hasn't had their nap time and is a bit moody, stop throwing your toys out of the pram and take a chill pill, you've made it clear you dont like the Mercs multiple times and i dont know why, go away and gain a set of maturity and then post here again

Gain a set of maturity? Interesting. I almost want to say you sound immature trying to scold someone else for it. Since it's the Internets way to handle shit by calling the opposition "Immature," "Whiney," and other insults 5 year old's use, I will just accept the fact that someone felt upset enough with me to actually start name calling.

Since you obviously don't know much about what I do, I'm effectively a troop seller for NA factions. I don't just give away troops, nor do I involve myself in wars. Yet, I will give FPoF troops and some gear for their wars.

And It doesn't really matter what you say. They got the troops and they are coming to attack you with them. Enjoy 1200 more soldiers to fight against.

BTW, if you actually read my posts, you'd probably see why I don't like Apostates.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on July 29, 2013, 09:59:24 pm
just a   reminder  http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-general-discussion/grey-order-strat-announcement/

Thanks for reminder  :wink:

Also, if that was not clear: It's really sad to see GO leave, you do have my respect for running a clan that big so efficiently, I just think you sometimes cross the border to immorality, and that too far and too often.

I would prefer it if you'd stay.


So we are here with you, and we hope all of you have as good fun as we do, however, we are still waiting for clear set of rules, and in-game mechanizm that allows to manage other clanmates accounts in sensible, limited and organized manner, although the latest patch and donkeys are obviously great  :)

I think that unexpected turn of events on the map is very interesting and gives strat new dynamic, and our implacable consistency in implementation of policies under the title "jebać merców" finally breaks through a period of stagnation and meaningless collection of resources  :twisted:

Trololol
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 29, 2013, 10:05:21 pm
I've been wondering this for awhile, but what does jebać merców mean, or why is it used so much?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on July 29, 2013, 10:11:26 pm
that means  fuck mercs on polish, it became quiet popular since increasing gay grey order hate agaisnt belowed mercenaries. :)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Erasmas on July 29, 2013, 10:16:16 pm
Generally yes, but it is very difficult to pass the exact meaning cause a LOT is lost in this simple translation.  Polish, as she is spoken:

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Polish_language (http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Polish_language)

 :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Kalp on July 29, 2013, 10:25:43 pm
Quote
National Greetings

and

Quote
8   Extended vocative   Wołacz rozszerzony   o kurwa!   oh fuck!

is just lol  :mrgreen:

Oh fuck I will get warning from admin  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Osiris on July 30, 2013, 11:33:22 am
Never forget your true banner   :twisted: created by the long dead dezi!

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on July 30, 2013, 08:48:01 pm
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Zaalback on July 30, 2013, 08:49:11 pm
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4640  :twisted:

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Osiris on July 30, 2013, 11:16:57 pm
ill give you 17k silver!
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: woody on July 31, 2013, 02:01:27 am
Please dont tell Haboe to fuck off - without him the mercs who have skilled players, great cav, loads of fiefs, money and troops might not be totally fucking useless.

Hail Haboe - you make LeMikz look like a genius. Hail mercs for unwaverring loyalty to an incompetent.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 31, 2013, 10:44:47 am
Thats simply what happens when you have more fiefs then active stratplayers ;)
The shame if you have let us keep it that long :lol:

Despite lack of time or experience i think most of my members did a great job defending their fiefs.


And if you decribe it like that, I would like to compare it to wolves:
1 pro leader (kinny) and a bunch of pups can do ok, a bunch of pups with pup leaders can't do anything but a backstab while having 7 babysitters watching over them  :wink:

Good to see you are back on your old manners, "we take all the big fiefs, and our minions are granted mighty villages if they promise their support"  :lol:
At least greys have the decency to give away some usable fiefs the their minions :wink:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Vovka on July 31, 2013, 10:59:45 am
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 Hello! Me and my small clan of not skilled but very nice people would be happy to buy that city!
We are not very rich clan, and we can offer only 10 barrels of salted herring, that's all we have ... Of course, many of our children do not survive the winter, but our big hairy women can give birth to many children in this great city!

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 31, 2013, 11:15:28 am
Hello! Me and my small clan of not skilled but very nice people would be happy to buy that city!
We are not very rich clan, and we can offer only 10 barrels of salted herring, that's all we have ... Of course, many of our children do not survive the winter, but our big hairy women can give birth to many children in this great city!

(click to show/hide)

If only we could have drz in the north, i would seriously enjoy that  :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: ProLuX on July 31, 2013, 11:27:19 am
Thats simply what happens when you have more fiefs then active stratplayers ;)
The shame if you have let us keep it that long :lol:

Despite lack of time or experience i think most of my members did a great job defending their fiefs.


And if you decribe it like that, I would like to compare it to wolves:
1 pro leader (kinny) and a bunch of pups can do ok, a bunch of pups with pup leaders can't do anything but a backstab while having 7 babysitters watching over them  :wink:

Good to see you are back on your old manners, "we take all the big fiefs, and our minions are granted mighty villages if they promise their support"  :lol:
At least greys have the decency to give away some usable fiefs the their minions :wink:
MINIONS hahaahahah MINIONS  :D :D :D why dont you shut the fuck up once and for all in the cold front alliance EVERYONE i repeat EVERYONE serves to no one ... we(the Wolves) are just taking from the rich and giving it to the poor after this we are helping them with the trade and the gear ... when you know nothing about something just pls dont talk and be quiet like a good gentleman   :)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 31, 2013, 11:29:18 am
MINIONS hahaahahah MINIONS  :D :D :D why dont you shut the fuck up once and for all in the cold front alliance EVERYONE i repeat EVERYONE serves to no one ... we(the Wolves) are just taking from the rich and giving it to the poor after this we are helping them with the trade and the gear ... when you know nothing about something just pls dont talk and be quiet like a good gentleman   :)

You had 3 of the bigger cfa factions walk out on you last time you kept all the castles and towns to yourself, you still didn't get yruma back from that revolt, when will you learn?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: ProLuX on July 31, 2013, 11:34:33 am
You had 3 of the bigger cfa factions walk out on you last time you kept all the castles and towns to yourself, you still didn't get yruma back from that revolt, when will you learn?  :rolleyes:
no when you will learn that when you have nothing to say just shut up instead of posting some random shitty posts, we payed in blood for this castles and towns and theyr our proof that we are owning you, we can give castle/town for other clan but this clans are too small and i think that it is enough for them one or two villages   :)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on July 31, 2013, 11:42:33 am
no when you will learn that when you have nothing to say just shut up instead of posting some random shitty posts, we payed in blood for this castles and towns and theyr our proof that we are owning you, we can give castle/town for other clan but this clans are too small and i think that it is enough for them one or two villages   :)
Haboe is just seeking to get some infamy and attention with his provocation posts
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tuetensuppe on July 31, 2013, 11:43:52 am
haboe stop arguing with them about the past and former actions, even about former strat...
they dont know anything a part from what they believe to know and they dont want to know anything a part from what they believe to know!

greetings
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: ProLuX on July 31, 2013, 11:54:11 am
haboe stop arguing with them about the past and former actions, even about former strat...
they dont know anything a part from what they believe to know and they dont want to know anything a part from what they believe to know!

greetings
Rly ??!!Do you want to know in what i believe i believe in the good ally relationships but you Mercs proved me that there always have idiots, my old friendots and layers. When I was in SoA we thought that you are friendly towards us, I also thought so when the Nords tryed to attack us you didnt gave a fuck about what going on with us instead we had to give you some fiefs and to vote Blueberrymuffin to become owner of Alburq castle, and we all did it like a fools. But now my eyes are open and i see some random shits which dont deserve to be part from the strat because they dont give a fuck about theyr ally and Haboe is talking about minions ... rly??!! are you serious ??!!
Title: Re: War on Apostates
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 31, 2013, 12:00:17 pm
Thats simply what happens when you have more fiefs then active stratplayers ;)
The shame if you have let us keep it that long :lol:

Despite lack of time or experience i think most of my members did a great job defending their fiefs.


And if you decribe it like that, I would like to compare it to wolves:
1 pro leader (kinny) and a bunch of pups can do ok, a bunch of pups with pup leaders can't do anything but a backstab while having 7 babysitters watching over them  :wink:

Good to see you are back on your old manners, "we take all the big fiefs, and our minions are granted mighty villages if they promise their support"  :lol:
At least greys have the decency to give away some usable fiefs the their minions :wink:



Former merc fiefs:
Rivacheg, Bulugha castle, Sargoth, Mazen, Bazeck, Vezin, Jayek, Fearichen, Odasan, Ruvar, Udinidad, Fenada and Vayejag - you think you are doing ok there Hobbit?

The plan of attack, the campaign against you, the coordination of the clans, the scouting of targets/characters for 3 weeks or so before thattack was actually planned by these pups u speak of.....id say we are doing ok even with Kinn gone, wouldnt you?

And again Haboe - Mercs, Risens, Bros, Blackfists also suddenly attacked us from out of nowhere......how well did that campaign go after 4 weeks of war? You took one fief.....Julius Caesar would be envyous of your mighty strategic mind Hobbit really.....

Cant you see that most guys just laugh at your posts? The facts are in front of them, you loose almost every battle, u failed tottally when you attacked us earlier, you failed totally when defending your fiefs or trying to counter us. Despite all that big boy talk of yours, all those fiefs u had, all those troops u still have, all that gold u had you just failed.

But, its fun reading your posts, you are like a politician trying to fend of reality  :mrgreen:



PAYBACK IS A BITCH ISNT IT?




Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 31, 2013, 12:19:35 pm


Former merc fiefs:
Rivacheg, Bulugha castle, Sargoth, Mazen, Bazeck, Vezin, Jayek, Fearichen, Odasan, Ruvar, Udinidad, Fenada and Vayejag - you think you are doing ok there Hobbit?

The plan of attack, the campaign against you, the coordination of the clans, the scouting of targets/characters for 3 weeks or so before thattack was actually planned by these pups u speak of.....id say we are doing ok even with Kinn gone, wouldnt you?

And again Haboe - Mercs, Risens, Bros, Blackfists also suddenly attacked us from out of nowhere......how well did that campaign go after 4 weeks of war? You took one fief.....Julius Caesar would be envyous of your mighty strategic mind Hobbit really.....

Cant you see that most guys just laugh at your posts? The facts are in front of them, you loose almost every battle, u failed tottally when you attacked us earlier, you failed totally when defending your fiefs or trying to counter us. Despite all that big boy talk of yours, all those fiefs u had, all those troops u still have, all that gold u had you just failed.

But, its fun reading your posts, you are like a politician trying to fend of reality  :mrgreen:



PAYBACK IS A BITCH ISNT IT?






Wolves are such a mighty clan as they fill their own rosters with all the mighty wolves members and stormed to victory.

When the reality is that Hetman or Harpag lead the battles and the roster is filled with 3 great clans Byz, Greys and DRZ. Its not hard to produce troops in strat or gear, its all about the better roster, and atm the greys are the best at doing that with BYz and DRZ, its a bitch to fight against them.

I admit they have the better rosters, but the wolves cannot say they did this all on their own, Rosters, armies, gear from the GO surely makes it less about you and more about the greys
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 31, 2013, 12:44:34 pm
You just wont understand,

We didnt DO this ourselfs (cotgs, ecurcheurs, baldes, kapis, Fisdnars, Karluks)
We PLANNED it ourselfs (made maps, selected targets, scouting fiefs/characters)
We DO lead our own battles (3 totally before this war unproven commanders - Overlord, Woody and me)
We DONT get gear from the GO
We DO get huge rostersupport (started getting that when u attacked us in the last war, so mostly your doing)
We DO make our own armies, grinding bying and so on

The Greys have made THE difference, without them at Dhirim when we started the campaign we wouldnt have succeeded, and we wouldnt have tried - we attacked when it was most efficient to do so
We MADE our own decision to attack by voting
We were NOT asked by the Greys to attack

Your war against us made this happen, just like Brede, Rogue and Casi told you. Why should we stay in an alliance, where one of the major powers just say outright that they hate our guts and that they want you gone. If you would have just not attacked, we would have been fighting side by side now Strudog, we wouldnt have gotten to know the guys in the UIF and you wouldnt be in the situation ur in now.

Action - Reaction

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on July 31, 2013, 12:59:46 pm
It's truly amazing that "the best clan in Europe", which has so incredibly much of tickets and money, so powerful and wealthy allies, gets the shit out of a nightmare. Over the past four weeks, Apostates lost 50 600 tickets (dead, not lost!) nevertheless they still have 90 000 in fiefs. In fact, I don't remember when you won strategically important battle. Probably never. Your ability to conduct diplomacy reaches the bottom, prediction of our movements on a map doesn't exist. Just a disaster. Big mouth and an empty head is not enough. Attempts to explain your incompetence by dishonesty of someone else is your old and only line of defense. Don't look for excuses, you've got a terrible beating from Wolves, we're just helping them  :wink:  Call for Nocti and Pussy, because you totally can't handle whole this situation  :twisted:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 31, 2013, 01:40:37 pm
You just wont understand,

We didnt DO this ourselfs (cotgs, ecurcheurs, baldes, kapis, Fisdnars, Karluks)
We PLANNED it ourselfs (made maps, selected targets, scouting fiefs/characters)
We DO lead our own battles (3 totally before this war unproven commanders - Overlord, Woody and me)
We DONT get gear from the GO
We DO get huge rostersupport (started getting that when u attacked us in the last war, so mostly your doing)
We DO make our own armies, grinding bying and so on

The Greys have made THE difference, without them at Dhirim when we started the campaign we wouldnt have succeeded, and we wouldnt have tried - we attacked when it was most efficient to do so
We MADE our own decision to attack by voting
We were NOT asked by the Greys to attack

Your war against us made this happen, just like Brede, Rogue and Casi told you. Why should we stay in an alliance, where one of the major powers just say outright that they hate our guts and that they want you gone. If you would have just not attacked, we would have been fighting side by side now Strudog, we wouldnt have gotten to know the guys in the UIF and you wouldnt be in the situation ur in now.

Action - Reaction

You still don't seem to know that its kinngrimm that took the first aggression in that war :rolleyes:
CFA party fell apart because a lot of your members blabbed about kinny's plans, and therefore they failed, still resulting in a war but not in kinns favour. Then kinny left, ppl started feeling sorry for the wolves, so peace was negotiated. For this very reason i told you i don't want you there, simply because wolves can't resist a backstab. Fail of judgement by casi who pushed for peace anyway,

You may have your laughs on the forum, i'll have mine ladderpulting wolves and greys off the walls  :lol:

And +1 to erasmas there  :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 31, 2013, 01:58:28 pm
If it was Kinngrimm Haboe, you still failed the diplomacy, the war could have ended right then and there when Kinngrimm left but you couldnt make it happen - so you failed

You should have gone all the way and wiped us, or stopped the war when Kinngrimm left. Instead you did some in the middle solution which didnt benefit anyone except the UIF.

CFA was Kinngrimms work, we work differently, we dont demand anything back from what we have given away - nothing, zip nada - if they want to help we like it if not its their decision

And if u still think that Wolves members have backstabb in their blood or something you are more than hilarious - all guys in all clans are more or less alike - young guys old guys, guys with families or guys sitting in basements alone never seing the sun

If you only could say - yes, we made the mistakes that lead up to this situation instead of blaming everything and everyone but yourselfs - u had all the tools m8 and you didnt work em right - no biggie

See you on the walls Hobbit  :mrgreen:


Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on July 31, 2013, 02:01:53 pm
Lol, the wolves planned an attack on me, then kinngrimm left, i should just say "ah, its prolly just kinny, lets not worry about a backstab of the other wolves".

Obviously i made the right call there, because once again backstab by wolves  :lol:

Be honest, if you got backstabbed previous strats, then you prevent a backstab again, would you completely ignore those 1 day later just because 1 leader left?

Edit:

CFA was Kinngrimms work, we work differently, we dont demand anything back from what we have given away - nothing, zip nada - if they want to help we like it if not its their decision

Very happy to see this, now execute it correctly. Kinny's idea on the cfa was a very good one, but the smaller clans ended up being a shield for the wolves. If you can stick to what you say now, that new allience might work out.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 31, 2013, 02:08:22 pm
Lol, the wolves planned an attack on me, then kinngrimm left, i should just say "ah, its prolly just kinny, lets not worry about a backstab of the other wolves".

Obviously i made the right call there, because once again backstab by wolves  :lol:

Be honest, if you got backstabbed previous strats, then you prevent a backstab again, would you completely ignore those just because 1 leader left?

To be honest, I would consider different options and try to choose a longterm solution for the problem that would benefit my clan. And since you think u made the right decision Hobbit, your clan must be very glad right now - because if you would have made peace at the time when Kinn left the situation, it would have been much much worse than the current situation :)

And about alliances, dont worry hobbit - they are totally free - even signing up for u in battles to get XP - we demand nothing back
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Falka on July 31, 2013, 03:36:11 pm
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The reason why mercs fail so horribly recently is pretty simple. GO side has superior roster in almost every battle, what also Kesh pointed out some time ago. Todays battle is good example of it. GO side had only clan players and they're all very good. Mercs in every battle has plenty of randomers like me e.g., heh, they even have chinamen cause they can not fill the roster. Superior gear on the top of that and the outcome is predictable. Still their battles are pretty enjoyable :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 31, 2013, 03:56:38 pm
If you are refering to: http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive&view=list#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4656

I wouldn't say we have superiour gear (speaking for Shu Han). :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: vipere on July 31, 2013, 03:59:52 pm
You can't actually complain about rosters in strat battle.


get some strat friends !

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on July 31, 2013, 04:06:38 pm
If you are refering to: http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive&view=list#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4656

I wouldn't say we have superiour gear (speaking for Shu Han). :P

Milanese plate is real traditional Chinese Armour  :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on July 31, 2013, 04:07:54 pm
The reason why mercs fail so horribly recently is pretty simple. GO side has superior roster in almost every battle, what also Kesh pointed out some time ago. Todays battle is good example of it. GO side had only clan players and they're all very good. Mercs in every battle has plenty of randomers like me e.g., heh, they even have chinamen cause they can not fill the roster. Superior gear on the top of that and the outcome is predictable. Still their battles are pretty enjoyable :P

Control yourself! Incidentally, you are one of the most effective players (Falka is Cirilla_Evil_Witch), but never mind, as long as better team wins, everything is fine  :wink:

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Falka on July 31, 2013, 04:12:43 pm
If you are refering to: http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive&view=list#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4656

I wouldn't say we have superiour gear (speaking for Shu Han). :P

OH, I though it was GO battle, there was quite a few GO players and Hetman was gloating after battle about another victory, so thought it's their battle :P And I'd say you had better gear, plenty of plate, all weapons which I saw on the ground +3, we were out of the best gear long before the end of the battle, not to mention crappy langes messers which glance against plates even with 9 PS :)

You can't actually complain about rosters in strat battle.

get some strat friends !

I don't play in strat except battles, so I don't need strat friends :P Just saying why, according to me, battles are so one sided recently.

you are one of the most effective players

That only shows sth is wrong with their roster since I'm nothing more than average player, just high lvl.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: vipere on July 31, 2013, 04:24:34 pm
I don't play in strat except battles, so I don't need strat friends :P Just saying why, according to me, battles are so one sided recently.

I know but apostates can't complain about rosters, they got a lot of enemies, they need to face it .
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on July 31, 2013, 04:29:17 pm
I know but apostates can't complain about rosters, they got a lot of enemies, they need to face it .
about damn time someone from UIF backstabbs them :3  i would be nicely surprised if it would be grey order for example... ohh imagine the drama that would start :D


P.S.  seriously, do it.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Falka on July 31, 2013, 04:29:55 pm
I know but apostates can't complain about rosters

Well, they don't, at least I've never seen them complaining about it, I complain about roster on my own behalf :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Fips on July 31, 2013, 04:31:17 pm
I know but apostates can't complain about rosters, they got a lot of enemies, they need to face it .

Filling up the roster is not as easy as it seems to be on the side of the enemies. People are very demotivated when it comes to Apostates battles these days.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Molly on July 31, 2013, 05:02:38 pm
My guess is that people are rather bored about strat battles overall...
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on July 31, 2013, 05:22:03 pm
Milanese plate is real traditional Chinese Armour  :lol:

Yep :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tactical_One on July 31, 2013, 10:34:37 pm
Good to see you are back on your old manners, "we take all the big fiefs, and our minions are granted mighty villages if they promise their support"  :lol:
At least greys have the decency to give away some usable fiefs the their minions :wink:

Well Apostates tried to hold too much fiefs instead find own "minions" :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Osiris on July 31, 2013, 11:20:13 pm
the main demotivator for strat is that wse2 doesnt work on eu3 in big battles. The battles become laggy clusterfucks and its just no fun to fight in big battles :P (only reason anyone bothers with strat at all is because of the insane levels of exp :D make it like a x3 on eu1 and no one would play at all)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Rebelyell on July 31, 2013, 11:24:28 pm
Filling up the roster is not as easy as it seems to be on the side of the enemies. People are very demotivated when it comes to Apostates battles these days.

face it and say that

they have bad comanders
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Fips on July 31, 2013, 11:28:56 pm
face it and say that

they have bad comanders

Let's just agree that there are better ones, i don't want to hurt any feelings here xD

But then again, i wouldn't want to lead the horde that is called Apostates. Mercs and Deserters are not even listening to the orders of their own members, which is a huge dealbreaker for me.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on July 31, 2013, 11:51:25 pm
It was a dreary, blustery day, the sky was overcast, and the grey clouds threatened rain, not what the lone pilgrim wanted as he meandered through the meadow his feet slowly dragging him towards his final destination, Alburq Castle. As he walked through the knee-high grass a brassy note carried to him upon the tides of the wind, however as quickly as it had come it soon vanished leaving behind an eerie silence. Shaking his head the pilgrim chastised himself for imagining things, lack of sleep he muttered to himself as he continued his journey forth. Once more the sound rang in his ears, a distant note muffled by the rustling of the wind through the grass. Standing still, straining his ears he waited patiently to hear the sound once more. Sure enough the brassy note did burst forth again, this time with renewed vigor, the pilgrim thought he heard a cheer rise with the sound yet he was uncertain.

Forcing his feet to move faster the weary pilgrim set out increasing his pace as he raced towards the distant sound, the meadow slowly began to rise as the pilgrim began to ascend the hills that surrounded Alburq Castle. He stumbled up the incline, patches of gorse tugging at his clothes, upturned roots making his footing unstable, yet with every patch of ground he covered the sound slowly grew louder and more disturbingly, closer.

The lone pilgrim crested the hill and sinking to his knees let loose a wail of despair. For below in the valley that Alburq dominated lay a besieging army, it's numbers endless, the cogs of war had been turning faster than he had thought possible. As he stared helplessly down at the surrounded castle his eyes followed a lone missile arcing through the air until it smashed against the wooden walls, surprisingly no visible damage was done but surely the walls could not stand the onslaught. Yet to his trained eye he only spotted a single catapult and as he noted the men tirelessly working around it a lick of flame sprang forth from it's frame, soon the catapult was ablaze and a cheer rose from the defenders as the catapult slowly burnt, it's workers furtively attempting to extinguish the flames. A slow smile spread across the pilgrim's face as he watched the event unfold, maybe there was hope for the defenders after all he mused.

This siege would be a bloody affair and the victor would not win easily, both sides would lose scores of men for just a few pieces of wood strapped together to form an insubstantial structure. Turning his eye towards the defenses the pilgrim spotted a lone figure striding across the palisade. The figure was obviously of noble birth by his stance, he also picked out a banner carrying the heraldry of the Mercenaries, an old warband that still roamed these lands. The pilgrim continued his inspection of the figure, he was a tall young man, maybe early twenties with sandy windswept hair elegantly parted down the middle, he carried a longsword strapped at his belt and a crossbow slung over his shoulder. His armour was of azure blue, a barbutte hung from his left hand as he stared mercilessly at the horde surrounding his lands. Without a word or a cry the young Lord swung his arm forward signalling a barrage of arrows and bolts to rain down upon the besiegers.

This would be a long bloody siege the pilgrim grimly thought, a long bloody affair indeed. As if to match his mood the heavens suddenly opened bringing forth a heavy rain soaking all within seconds, not only will this be a bloody affair but it will be a fucking miserable fight as well. 



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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 01, 2013, 12:03:28 am
Nicely written Sir Cymro, very nice  :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on August 01, 2013, 09:23:08 pm
Already giving up on alburq castle?

edit. LOOOl i posted this about 3 minutes ago and kalp already gave me - without any obvious reason  :lol: (waiting for nadurils - )
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 01, 2013, 09:43:09 pm
Was a very nice battle today folks, shame i kept crashing :( i will upload a story about the battle soon :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on August 01, 2013, 10:52:13 pm
I found a cover for the bestseller cymro is about to write on the assault on alburq castle  :lol:

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 01, 2013, 11:03:21 pm
Take the high with the low xD

Alburq Castle = A Bitch.

I'll do the story tomorrow, and it will be fair for both sides! I hate biasism, too tired for it tonight though =P that castle is really difficult to take, i think ive seen it fall once, Jeirbe castle is an easier target hint!!
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on August 01, 2013, 11:16:48 pm
Jelbegi castle and tehlrog castle might get close to it  :P
I heard dhirim is the biggest pain in the ass on the whole map.

 
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: woody on August 01, 2013, 11:22:06 pm
Yeah we got our arses kicked today (con material bug didnt help).

We'll learn from that but there will be other battles.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on August 01, 2013, 11:25:27 pm
Yeah we got our arses kicked today (con material bug didnt help).

We'll learn from that but there will be other battles.

I think the bug you are talking about is when it shows you have material but you can't take it out?

If so, when you take it out of the woodpile, it doesn't reduce your inventory number (it does, but it shows as if it doesn't).
So you will think you have plenty left, when you actually already used it by taking it out of the woodpile.

Not 100% sure if this is your bug, but it used to be a common thing in battles, just remember what you build and add up those numbers.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Vovka on August 01, 2013, 11:27:04 pm
I think the bug you are talking about is when it shows you have material but you can't take it out?

If so, when you take it out of the woodpile, it doesn't reduce your inventory number (it does, but it shows as if it doesn't).
So you will think you have plenty left, when you actually already used it by taking it out of the woodpile.

Not 100% sure if this is your bug, but it used to be a common thing in battles, just remember what you build and add up those numbers.
yep, this 1
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 02, 2013, 12:52:15 am
Well, we dont know what happened, we couldnt take the remaining materials out, and Im pretty sure we diditn take any out of the woodpile since we built a weaponrack from the beginning on the hill. The funny part was, that the second siegetower had 84/85 materials so we just needed one to complete it. Not that I it would have made a big difference on the result of the siege, just funny how it goes - destiny vomits on your siegetower :)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on August 02, 2013, 01:02:15 am
Grandmom, whenever I spawn with any amount of throwing weapons in strat it always shows for me as if I've only spawned one stack, so throwing weapons usually run out when I think there are 33 or so left, maybe something like that happened.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 02, 2013, 01:36:41 am
33 was the number we had left actually......
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Vovka on August 02, 2013, 01:39:28 am
we tested it a 2 or 3 mounth ago its just visual bug
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 02, 2013, 01:48:06 am
I found a cover for the bestseller cymro is about to write on the assault on alburq castle  :lol:

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Wasnt he supposed to write about the whole war? Then use this describing the mercs waking up on the 9th of July seeing 11 Wolves armies moving in formation out from a forest near Rivacheg....


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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on August 02, 2013, 01:16:37 pm
Horror of war....

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Guray on August 02, 2013, 01:48:11 pm
Horror of war....

when did it happen. It is a very old battle , isn't it?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on August 02, 2013, 02:19:36 pm
when did it happen. It is a very old battle , isn't it?
nope, not that old , week maybe 2 weeks old
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Oarsman on August 02, 2013, 06:33:15 pm
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Are you using some sort of italian back hair mod?  :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on August 02, 2013, 06:38:44 pm
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Are you using some sort of italian back hair mod?  :D
yes, +3 italian backhair to everyone  they are loomed to +3 in jeirbe castlea nd also have 65 % discount :)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 02, 2013, 11:37:02 pm
Nice fight again today folks, i now have plenty of material for the next installment, expect it either tomorrow night or sunday evening depening on my work shifts and how tired i am  :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on August 04, 2013, 01:37:35 am
Connection lost, whats gonna happen next?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 04, 2013, 01:48:08 am
We are right now celebrating our victory inside Alburq - where are you?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on August 04, 2013, 01:51:27 am
We are right now celebrating our victory inside Alburq - where are you?

Outside celebrating our victory, oh wait....
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 04, 2013, 01:54:19 am
aaaaah we will open the gate for you so we can celebrate together m8...oh noes it cant be done
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on August 04, 2013, 01:59:10 am
aaaaah we will open the gate for you so we can celebrate together m8...oh noes it cant be done

I will bring my trusty siege tower. no worries
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on August 04, 2013, 02:02:26 am
I will bring my trusty siege tower. no worries
Are you talking about the one rolling down the hill and breaking physics?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on August 04, 2013, 02:03:39 am
Are you talking about the one rolling down the hill and breaking physics?

His can fly, and break physics ofc.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on August 04, 2013, 02:37:34 am
God, moved a day ahead... Ah well, best solution for now it seems, gj devs  :mrgreen:

We had 8 minutes left, only 600-700 casualty's xD

Ah well, more xp for everyone.

Lets take down some more siegetowers  :mrgreen:

Maybe a cata to shoot down our cata?  :lol:

Edit:
It was harald moving the battle forward, best solution for all.
Good luck greys, you get a second chance tomorrow to kill more  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Jacu on August 04, 2013, 04:43:23 am
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on August 04, 2013, 05:04:11 am
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that is nothing but a compleate rudeness and has nothing to do with diplomacy.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on August 05, 2013, 01:37:11 am
The ranged actually filled our top 3 this battle:

Merc_Closer         141   29
 Fallen_Tomas      109   7
 Slv                       99   18
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on August 05, 2013, 02:12:09 am
The ranged actually filled our top 3 this battle:

Merc_Closer         141   29
 Fallen_Tomas      109   7
 Slv                       99   18

If all those siege tower falling deaths had counted towards my score i can safely say i would be at the top  :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Austrian on August 05, 2013, 10:42:33 am
The ranged actually filled our top 3 this battle:

Merc_Closer         141   29
 Fallen_Tomas      109   7
 Slv                       99   18

Buff ranged.   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on August 05, 2013, 11:53:12 am
Don't be so joyful. One castle doesn't change the whole picture. Soon we will find a way to see you drowning in tears  :)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on August 05, 2013, 11:56:03 am
Don't be so joyful. One castle doesn't change the whole picture. Soon we will find a way to see you drowning in tears  :)

You will have to prepare more QQ threads when trying to take others. Plus you will need more troops if you are going to lose battles like these

http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4719
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 05, 2013, 02:49:59 pm
Mainly if was me fucking up the roster on our side, thought we had more time and was really too tired to think straight. But even so, mercs acted quickly when they saw that they outnumbered us and the rest is history......well done
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 05, 2013, 03:13:53 pm
I have no problem giving cred where cred is due
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SquishMitten on August 05, 2013, 03:16:22 pm
The battle was very fun for us, but I feel your pain with getting the roster screwed up
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Heibai on August 05, 2013, 08:10:06 pm
At the end I actually thought that we would loose, because half of us were already naked at the last charge.

@grandmom, at least u was there, few days ealier mercs fucked up the roster too, because no one was there :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on August 06, 2013, 12:59:43 pm
when is next alburq castle siege? :( i was looking forward to play it today but nobody attacked    :cry:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on August 06, 2013, 01:02:10 pm
when is next alburq castle siege? :( i was looking forward to play it today but nobody attacked    :cry:

They wait until catapults are taken out.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Guray on August 06, 2013, 01:15:09 pm
They wait until catapults are taken out.
They do not need to wait I can do this myself in the battle.They did not take me to the battle because I am a cavalary :P Anyways see you in the next siege.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tactical_One on August 06, 2013, 01:42:41 pm
Castle is impossible to take now, with smart catapult inside even siege machines are usless.
It should be option to besiege castle :) till defenders will starve. But required like 2 week time. It would prevent such situations :).
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Keshian on August 06, 2013, 02:19:27 pm
Castle is impossible to take now, with smart catapult inside even siege machines are usless.
It should be option to besiege castle :) till defenders will starve. But required like 2 week time. It would prevent such situations :).

Isn't grey order the one that defended Uxhal - where they recruited more troops per day inside the fief than were lost in each battle - I do know Coalition didn't do a 20 page whine thread bout it.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Fips on August 06, 2013, 02:24:07 pm
Isn't grey order the one that defended Uxhal - where they recruited more troops per day inside the fief than were lost in each battle - I do know Coalition didn't do a 20 page whine thread bout it.

It's GO who still reminds us of their "glorious" battle of Uxkhal although they all have been completely inactive in strat *cough*
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 06, 2013, 04:51:05 pm
Isn't grey order the one that defended Uxhal - where they recruited more troops per day inside the fief than were lost in each battle - I do know Coalition didn't do a 20 page whine thread bout it.

If you look at after battle stats. Coalition lost 15k and GO lost like 12k. It was a 1:1 ratio, but there WAS bitching on the forums cause of how many assaults it took.
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive&view=chart
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 06, 2013, 08:57:00 pm
The morning dawned bright and early, a swirling mist eddied above the surface of the ground, covering everything in a white blanket. Weak rays of sunlight broke through the clouds showering the picturesque landscape with slanted golden rays of light that highlighted the siege below. The deluge of rain from the previous day had soaked the ground, refreshing the vegetation yet making the top soil loose and treacherous for the attackers. The catapult that had been burning the previous day was now just a mass of blackened, charred timbers, laying where they had fallen amongst themselves.

Sitting atop a cracked boulder sat the lone pilgrim, his eyes constantly moving as he studied the sight below. Alburq Castle lay sprawled before him, the wooden walls still stood strong, the wreckage of ladders lay splintered on the ground mixed with the bodies of the fallen. The castle was surrounded by a host of enemies, different banners marked the varying Houses that had banded together to defeat the tyrannical reign of the Mercenaries. The most prominent Houses that stood against the Mercenaries included House Grey and House Wolf, these two Houses were extremely wealthy which enabled them to field large numbers of troops, as was apparent here. Staring down towards the besiegers line he picked out soldiers wearing a wide assortment of armours, some coming from the Southern Desert with their pointed helmets and lamellar armour, men hailing from the North with mail hauberks, round shields and axes. The fearsome Nords were even turning against the Mercenaries it seemed, surely all is lost now.

As the morning slowly passed activity within the camp of the besiegers increased in pace. Men rushed here and there carrying weapons, stacks of arrows, wood for construction and a wider ranger of assortments. As the day continued to pass men began to gather towards the centre of the camp where to the keen eyes of the pilgrim it seemed some form of address was being given to the gathered troops. Phrases carried upon the wind were brought to the pilgrim before being snatched away, however the words he caught were not very promising for the defenders, 'siege tower, burn, pillage, rape' with a loud cheer that echoed off the neighboring hills the troops rushed towards the North of the camp closest to the walls of Alburq Castle. It seems the siege has begun the pilgrim mused, and now begins the wanton death and slaughter.

The sudden gathering of troops had not gone unnoticed to the seasoned Lord of Alburq Castle, as soon as large groups of men had begun to band together he had ordered his men to arm the ramparts, once more men took their positions, archers strung their bows, pulling back the strings to test the strength. Crossbowmen loaded their first bolts and waited patiently for the enemy to come into range. Men with pikes and longspears manned the walls at equal distances to act as a deterrent against ladders that would shortly follow. The useful shielders presented an unbreakable wall of wood and steel, lining the rampart protecting all within from missiles shot towards the walls. From the pilgrims position he could see the Lord's plan for the besiegers. It seems this commander was indeed a veteran of many a siege to be so well organized and efficient with his planning.

A disturbance within the besiegers camp drew the eyes of the pilgrim back to the attackers. Moving through the camp were groups of men chained together straining to pull the siege towers behind them, these large, burdensome machines would be able to spill attackers onto the walls in waves that could quickly overwhelm the defenders. As these machines maneuvered into position ladders were thrown against the walls, men quickly clambered up to try and get a footing on the wall and hold off till their allies could climb up to aid them. It seemed to the pilgrim the ladders would surely overwhelm the defenders just with the number that were thrown against the walls. Yet the commander once more proved his worth, with a loud roar missiles arced down penetrating deep into the packed ranks below, at this ranged the ranged defenders could not miss. Men fell back from the walls clutching limbs which now sprouted the feathered shafts of arrows. Those climbing the ladders were easily picked off by the archers, sending the men tumbling back down the ladders to land in a heap amongst those waiting to ascend. Now the pikemen began to push back the ladders, sending them crashing back upon the heads of the attackers, some ladders still had men upon them as they fell to the Earth crushing those clinging on for dear life. The attackers replied with a weak volley of missiles but very few found their mark as most thudded into the wooden crenelations that covered the wall or embedded themselves within the row of shields.

Falling back from their disastrous first attempt the attackers piled in behind the siege towers regrouping till they could push for the walls once more. This time when they advanced the siege towers soaked up most of the ranged fire leaving them covered in feathered shafts of arrows and bolts. The attackers were now able to fire back from a similar height as archers lined the upper levels of the siege tower, returning the deadly barrage of missiles. The advance was slow for the attackers yet their archers began to take their toll as men began to fall on the ramparts, pierced by arrows, once again the pilgrim thought the defenders could not weather this storm.

All of a sudden a loud thwack split the air announcing the use of the catapult the defenders had hidden within their courtyard. As the pilgrim watched a large clump of stone flew through the sky before striking the centre siege tower, crashing through the crudely constructed design. The destruction was imminent, men fell screaming from the tower as the upper levels began to collapse due to the lack of support beneath them, men were flung from their posts and sent hurtling towards the unforgiving ground landing in a bloody mess. Others were not so lucky as the stone continued to  career down the hillside crafting a bloody path through the packed ranks of the attackers. A silence fell over the battlefield before a cheer rose from the defenders. Not deterred by the destruction of one of their towers the attackers doubled their efforts to reach the walls.

One other siege tower was destroyed before the attackers reached the wall with their third tower, men piled in packing the siege tower with a mass of humanity. Men jostling for space whilst they tried to arrange their gear before the storming of the walls. With a crash the ramp was lowered and the attackers erupted from the siege tower quickly overwhelming the paltry first few ranks of the defenders, men were cut down where they stood, easily slain against numerous foes. Yet the attack began to slow in pace as the defenders slowly began to hold their ground, fighting back in grim determination, one foot after the other they slowly retook their lost ground, holding back the attackers their muscles straining as the weight began to increase. Once more the pilgrim believed this was the end of the defence.

Yet in a daring move the catapult fired once more, the missile too low to strike the siege tower, instead the rock that was hurtled from the catapult scoured the wall killing both defenders and attackers, leaving nothing but bloody pulp behind, the rock traveled over the wall and landed within the siege tower. With a groan due to the added weight the structure began to tilt to the side sending men sprawling off the ramp with the sudden movement. Another loud thwack and the catapult fire once more, this time striking the siege tower true, shearing off the top level. Now without any counter balance the tower began to lean precariously to one side and slowly it began to fall sending a cloud of dust and dirt as it landed. Now the attackers were stuck inside the castle and were easy prey for the defenders, some tried to surrender yet were met mercilessly with a sword point piercing their throats.

Now the attackers piled back to their camp to continue the siege, yet in they did not stop to settle down for the night, they continued to walk through the camp and out the other side, splitting off into separate groups as they retreated beyond the valley of Alburq, so it seemed the defenders had gotten lucky and somehow managed to beat the attackers into submission. But surely it could not last....


Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: mrrdhardy on August 06, 2013, 10:51:04 pm
Haha that was great cymro only one thing missing though and that is a brave sloth called packer who single handed defeated a grey order's dragon with just a spoon and returned back the beer for the defenders.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 06, 2013, 10:54:46 pm
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: mrrdhardy on August 06, 2013, 11:00:39 pm
I've already drunk the beer i'm afraid :o
already  :shock:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: mrrdhardy on August 06, 2013, 11:04:15 pm
Because of how epic I was killing that dragon you can all call me saint packer and have a day once a year to remember me  :twisted:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 11, 2013, 09:06:31 pm
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 11, 2013, 09:20:33 pm
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Conquisitore on August 11, 2013, 10:31:12 pm
www.nobrain.dk
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: woody on August 11, 2013, 11:14:42 pm
Until either siege gear is debugged, wooden castles can fall to catapults etc and the 1/3 rule ceases to apply if attackers more than 1500 or something strat is basically frozen. Staring at each other in stacked or untakeable castles no-one can attack is a fail game.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 12, 2013, 01:12:10 am
Yep drama is dead
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on August 12, 2013, 03:31:40 pm
Wolves come across the first castle that actually has an armed garrison instead of an afk fief and SUDDENLY! they GTX.

At the start of strat I made sure we got this fief for this exact reason. Some castles are harder to take than others; and sitting down and crying about it isnt going to change it, as proved by every other time that players lobby for the dev's to change something by whining on the forums.

I remember assaults on Tehlrog castle when Nords owned it, it is basically something that is only possible with ladder assault, same as Alburq. (In these assaults I remember we killed only 600-800 tickets per wave.) Its not nice, but some maps just arent; and they are the most important key places on the map.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on August 12, 2013, 03:40:16 pm
you mean we can drop weapons and return to our beloved families?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tyr_ on August 12, 2013, 03:43:59 pm
Only if you take your laptop and a mobilephone with you  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 12, 2013, 03:46:34 pm
Yes, we the wolves, are right now growing carrots and potatoes in a friendly and non aggressive way. You, the mercs, are not grounded anymore, welcome out into the plains of the north, grab a shovel and help out with the new econorth.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Flans on August 12, 2013, 03:55:05 pm
Wolves come across the first castle that actually has an armed garrison instead of an afk fief and SUDDENLY! they GTX.

Repeat that plz, the Merc dead in Sargoth, Wercheg and Bullugha Castle cant hear you.
You failing retard, ofcourse no ones gonna piss armies on an easy to defend place like Alburq.

This has got to be the worst attempt to goad people into action I have ever seen.
How about reducing the garrisons in your other fiefs to playable levels and we can have fun again. You lot are quite boring with ur 10-13k garrisons in the harder to hold spots while maintaining that illusion in Alburq.
If not then sit in your fiefs and stfu. We already know no ones coming to save you.

~Latvian
Bazeck's fruit has got to be some of the best Iv'e ever had!
You took great care of this place, I cant tell! :) Ill make sure to continue the good work.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on August 12, 2013, 04:05:09 pm

~Latvian
Bazeck's fruit has got to be some of the best Iv'e ever had!
You took great care of this place, I cant tell! :) Ill make sure to continue the good work.
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on August 12, 2013, 04:09:55 pm
Repeat that plz, the Merc dead in Sargoth, Wercheg and Bullugha Castle cant hear you.
You failing retard, ofcourse no ones gonna piss armies on an easy to defend place like Alburq.


Firstly, Sargoth? Dont recall wolves taking that fief. Grey order and cotgs took it afaik.  As for Wercheg and Bulugha, they were barely defended. They had 2k worth of gear in each, with afk fief owners. Its not our fault it took you multiple waves to take them.


How about reducing the garrisons in your other fiefs to playable levels and we can have fun again. You lot are quite boring with ur 10-13k garrisons in the harder to hold spots while maintaining that illusion in Alburq.
If not then sit in your fiefs and stfu. We already know no ones coming to save you.

Secondly, I dont seem to recall you making this argument when we were ploughing waves of troops into Slezkh castle?

Thirdly, I suggest you alter your tone. 'You retard', 'stfu', etc etc. Its pretty childish to read to be honest, I dont know what kind of a guy you are in rl, but the impression your give is of a raging and sexually frustrated 15 year old boy. Just to let you know.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 12, 2013, 04:14:57 pm
Wolves come across the first castle that actually has an armed garrison instead of an afk fief and SUDDENLY! they GTX.

Well fruitcake, please come outside and verify us GTXting strat, remember to wear Alburq castle like as dress when u go outside, otherwise bad things can happen  :mrgreen:


At the start of strat I made sure we got this fief for this exact reason. Some castles are harder to take than others; and sitting down and crying about it isnt going to change it, as proved by every other time that players lobby for the dev's to change something by whining on the forums.

To bad you didnt, in the middle of strat, come to think of other fiefs you should have protected a bit better :mrgreen:

I remember assaults on Tehlrog castle when Nords owned it, it is basically something that is only possible with ladder assault, same as Alburq. (In these assaults I remember we killed only 600-800 tickets per wave.) Its not nice, but some maps just arent; and they are the most important key places on the map.

I remember you owning 4 cities not long ago, 2 of them producing the most S/D on the map - not key positions?  :shock:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on August 12, 2013, 04:25:09 pm
They were protected very damn well, but I quit strat leadership maybe 6-8 month ago, things seem to have gone awry since then. :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 12, 2013, 04:40:00 pm
Firstly, Sargoth? Dont recall wolves taking that fief. Grey order and cotgs took it afaik.  As for Wercheg and Bulugha, they were barely defended. They had 2k worth of gear in each, with afk fief owners. Its not our fault it took you multiple waves to take them.

Muffin,

This is what happened,

Rivacheg took us three attacks, one extra so we could raid it once cap flags and keep some population
Bulugha took us two sieges
Wercheg, was taken by Greys - we had no interesst so we said ok
Sargoth was taken by, Cotgs, Baldes, Ecurcheurs, Karluks
Wolves, Greys only intercepted and made a perimeter around Sargoth, Greys came there after about 4-5 days of sieging

According to the initial plan that was made by the Wolves, it all happened the way it was supposed to with 4 exceptions:

1. Peasants of Fisdnar were late
2. Greys were late in Sargoth
3. We didnt bother to take Wercheg, since Greys wanted to we just helped them with interceptor armies in the area
4. There were no counterattack from you guys worth mentioning

The plan was made by the Wolves clan, a group of guys, leaders later involved in it were Cotgs_Niemand, Lunasa, Arys_the_Oakheart, Sultan_Ozan, Hetman_the Grey, Farooq of the Karluk clan, Conquistadore of Baldes. Every clan did what they were supposed to, and it worked out. Initial plan involved 3 cities (Sargoth, Wercheg, Rivacheg) one castle (Bulugha Castle) and some villages.

Id say our boys made a bloody lovely job in the north, not counting but I think u lost about 15 fiefs in 4-5 weeks or so.....nice you still have Alburq to hide in - you are a real winner!





Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 12, 2013, 04:41:04 pm
They were protected very damn well, but I quit strat leadership maybe 6-8 month ago, things seem to have gone awry since then. :D

Ok, then im sorry, didnt actually know who was leading strat now, Haboe/Tyr perhaps?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Silicium on August 12, 2013, 04:49:36 pm
Ok, then im sorry, didnt actually know who was leading strat now, Haboe/Tyr perhaps?
Haboe
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on August 12, 2013, 04:51:01 pm
Haboe. Bulugha, Rivacheg, Wercheg all had 6k shiny in them when I left it. Dunno how it went down to 2k regular gear.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 12, 2013, 04:55:06 pm
Ok I apologize to you Muffin, and we watched it drain defences for some time, scouted the north well and kept it as an option if we would need to but, with your 6k troops in thos fiefs we wouldnt have.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 12, 2013, 05:40:14 pm
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 12, 2013, 08:48:17 pm
Meanwhile in the fields outside Alburq castle:

GRANDMOM and Odysseus are watching the prime fields as they hear a distant scream full of fear from ALburq castle, they cant really make out what the man is screaming so they get back to what they were doing.

- "So, how are the potatoes coming Ody?" - Granny
- "Well, id say they would be just bout ripe soonish Granny" - Ody
- "Do ya think that old merc guy screaming over there would like him some tatoes?" - Granny
- "well, considering him not having been outside that pile of rubbish in a couple of weeks, Id say he is more hungry than a Zebra stuck in a Butchers shop" - Ody

A third man comes along, by the name of Larvae

- "Hello friends, hasnt that merc Lord understood yet that he aint grounded nomore?" - Larvae
- "Nah, seems he wants his freedom back, dun know who took it from him.......wasnt us now was it boys?" - Ody
- "Nah, guess he is just hungry and a bit grumpy, leave him be" - Granny
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 12, 2013, 10:50:52 pm
I can hear you potato munching bastards from up here. I ain't hungry we have plenty of food in here, isn't that right my precious little tomatoes, now whose a good beefy. Ahem. I stubbed my bloody toe, i was running along the wall merrily skipping when i stubbed my toe on one of your guys dead which i forgot to take out. Bloody bastard made my toe hurt!
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 13, 2013, 12:40:49 am
Merry singing from the fields around Alburq can be heard for miles:

"Potatoes, oh them lovely potatoes"
"Potatoes, oh them lovely potatoes"
"Potatoes, oh them lovely potatoes"
"and the pickles, carrots and beeeaaaans"

"Potatoes, oh them lovely potatoes"
"Potatoes, oh them lovely potatoes"
"Potatoes, oh them lovely potatoes"
"the lord has none it seeeeems"


Heskeytime singing clear as the day, the Regnums with their spanish giving the whole thing an exotic twist, Baldes with german accent and blowing horns keeping the pace, the northern alliance playing the violin and the triangle and the Wolves doin their howling!
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Conquisitore on August 13, 2013, 12:48:50 pm
confirmed :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: woody on August 13, 2013, 09:45:59 pm
Just read Muffins post - not a rage quit a boredom quit. Mercs did nothing but camp castles that were stocked beyond taking and co-alition just made threats and proved to be just piss and wind.

The castles/cities taken did have gear etc and were fun, however they didnt have the massive garrisons that made attacks impossible.

No overland battles, no takeable castles due to game problems simply too dull to carry on. If theres ever a Merc/co-alition counter attack I'll be back in an instant, until then its a paint drying waste of time.



Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on August 14, 2013, 12:45:43 am
Just read Muffins post - not a rage quit a boredom quit. Mercs did nothing but camp castles that were stocked beyond taking and co-alition just made threats and proved to be just piss and wind.

The castles/cities taken did have gear etc and were fun, however they didnt have the massive garrisons that made attacks impossible.

No overland battles, no takeable castles due to game problems simply too dull to carry on. If theres ever a Merc/co-alition counter attack I'll be back in an instant, until then its a paint drying waste of time.




So you are complaining about this now? why have wolves got there first 3 castles stacked to 10k troops? why did the greys stack their castles when they 'quit' strat, you guys seem to be very good at complaining when the game dosent suit you, when have the Mercs complained about the huge garrisons in the wolves castles ? never

Curaw: 10351 troops
Slezkh Castle : 9778
Rivacheg 7758
Bulugha: 5591

we either come to an agreement about castle garrisons or you guys stop being hypocrites.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on August 14, 2013, 12:50:47 am
We actually made a deal with greys once, we lowered the grunwalder garrison to about 6k every evening for some attacks, but when drz felt like making all their fiefs 10k+, we kinda lost motivation.

Was fun to do for a while on alburq, just becuz it was fun to see em all fly off those walls.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Flans on August 14, 2013, 01:15:04 am
So you are complaining about this now? why have wolves got there first 3 castles stacked to 10k troops? why did the greys stack their castles when they 'quit' strat, you guys seem to be very good at complaining when the game dosent suit you, when have the Mercs complained about the huge garrisons in the wolves castles ? never

Curaw: 10351 troops
Slezkh Castle : 9778
Rivacheg 7758
Bulugha: 5591

we either come to an agreement about castle garrisons or you guys stop being hypocrites.

LOL at hypocrites... We're talking about when you're being attacked, no one is attacking us now, those troops are stacked like that to reduce upkeep... are you really this dull brained?

You couldn't take Slezkh castle when it had <4000 troops in it and to top it all off you knew all its weaknesses and exactly what had to be done to take it. Don't compare us to urselves or anyone else, your failures are your own.

come out of ur fiefs Mercs, the big bad grey order aren't up here anymore, its just you and the Wolves now, come and lets have some lunch together.
Now as Woody said we await your fabled counterattack as we have been waiting these past 6 weeks... come already before the next strat wipe plz.

~ Muffins
If you fail to understand what the implications of this whole campaign was then you really are a sad person.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Lizard_man on August 14, 2013, 01:20:43 am
its just you and the Wolves now

Not that I care to play this game anymore, but if that's the case, which I doubt it is, you pricks will be knocked of your high horse soon enough...
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Casimir on August 14, 2013, 01:22:49 am
I am quickly starting to understand why Kinngrimm always did the talking for the Wolves.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Flans on August 14, 2013, 01:23:20 am
Not that I care to play this game anymore, but if that's the case, which I doubt it is, you pricks will be knocked of your high horse soon enough...

Does this mean that your pricks have already been knocked off their ponies?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Lizard_man on August 14, 2013, 01:25:30 am
That really makes fuck all sense, stupid little wolf...
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on August 14, 2013, 01:31:44 am
LOL at hypocrites... We're talking about when you're being attacked, no one is attacking us now, those troops are stacked like that to reduce upkeep... are you really this dull brained?

You couldn't take Slezkh castle when it had <4000 troops in it and to top it all off you knew all its weaknesses and exactly what had to be done to take it. Don't compare us to urselves or anyone else, your failures are your own.

come out of ur fiefs Mercs, the big bad grey order aren't up here anymore, its just you and the Wolves now, come and lets have some lunch together.
Now as Woody said we await your fabled counterattack as we have been waiting these past 6 weeks... come already before the next strat wipe plz.

~ Muffins
If you fail to understand what the implications of this whole campaign was then you really are a sad person.

Well for us there is no option for us to go and attack those castles, so yes you are being hypocrites.

Like Casimir said
I am quickly starting to understand why Kinngrimm always did the talking for the Wolves.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Flans on August 14, 2013, 01:46:36 am
Get off your high horses guys, You're all really annoying. There will never be a Merc comeback... not in this strat round anyway.
We've planned for every eventuality. . . We could all quit right now and you still wouldn't be able to do anything.

tbh I personally was hoping Coalition would do a bit (A LOAD) more than they did... it doesn't look like they care a lot about this front of the war. Well I suppose they shouldn't considering it was your own back garden you lost.

~Casimir
There's a difference between the Wolves that play now and Kinngrimm.
While he may have been a master at forum juggling, I personally prefer a more direct approach here.
There's no mincing words or hidden messages here, We're here to kill Mercs after all.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Lizard_man on August 14, 2013, 01:49:57 am
You really aren't all that, you act as if you've done so much, take UIF out of the equation and you wouldn't have accomplished shit...
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Flans on August 14, 2013, 01:52:53 am
You really aren't all that, you act as if you've done so much, take UIF out of the equation and you wouldn't have accomplished shit...

yeye, whine some more, It's not our fault your allies are shoring up their own lines instead of attacking.
cry me a river plz
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Lizard_man on August 14, 2013, 02:11:51 am
What annoys me the most, are the fucking idiots that are posting in these threads. I could write something about what I had for breakfast, and it would be considered as whining. Stop acting all high and mighty, I hope the Coalition come and shit all over you...
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Casimir on August 14, 2013, 03:39:33 am
Yes you do seem to be missing some of the finer points. Strategus is as much about respect as it is capturing villages. Being good at one is nothing without the other.

I hope some of you pups will realise this before you get muzzled.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on August 14, 2013, 04:44:55 am
~ Muffins
If you fail to understand what the implications of this whole campaign was then you really are a sad person.

Maybe run things through in your head before you post them? Because you really dont make much sense.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Vovka on August 14, 2013, 08:02:32 am
We actually made a deal with greys once, we lowered the grunwalder garrison to about 6k every evening for some attacks, but when drz felt like making all their fiefs 10k+, we kinda lost motivation.
Was fun to do for a while on alburq, just becuz it was fun to see em all fly off those walls.
We actually wanted low our garrisons in all our fiefs but then obama insult putin and we kinda lost motivation  :P
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on August 14, 2013, 09:36:40 am
We actually wanted low our garrisons in all our fiefs but then obama insult putin and we kinda lost motivation  :P
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Like the Greys and you did after all your allies were perma banned?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Vovka on August 14, 2013, 10:10:05 am
Like the Greys and you did after all your allies were perma banned?
I cant speak for GO but
 I'm doing what I think is necessary, and do not try to put it as a gesture of my generosity. I'm comfortable that in my castles 10k, because fucking genius can not attack them at 5 am, and neither me nor my players do not have to sit next 5 hours after each battle, intercepting reinforcements trying to have time to pull shit out of castles after the each battle, etc. When strategus become more friendly and less demanding of the time I will send all dat troops to rape your asses )) 
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 14, 2013, 10:28:47 am
I am quickly starting to understand why Kinngrimm always did the talking for the Wolves.

Meaning that one or two members uses language he wouldnt? Well take a look around cas, they arent exactly alone in doing this are they. Every action has its reaction cas, good or bad.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Molly on August 14, 2013, 10:37:05 am
We actually wanted low our garrisons in all our fiefs but then obama insult putin and we kinda lost motivation  :P
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I just have to say this real quick and accept my warning level to rise but...

Did I mention before that Vovka has one of the most funny kind of humour in this forum?
It's making me laugh nearly every time and without being rude or insulting, a very refined humour.

<3 Vovka :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 14, 2013, 10:42:45 am
Yes you do seem to be missing some of the finer points. Strategus is as much about respect as it is capturing villages. Being good at one is nothing without the other.

I hope some of you pups will realise this before you get muzzled.
Every clan has people that rage, diplomacy and relations is a big part of this game i totally agree with you on this point cas. And being to bigmouthed in the forum often result in being left alone on the map. We will try and not make the samemistake as others has done before us.

And regarding our allies and friends in this war, we are ready to sacrifice all we have to help them out if needed, noone gets left behind - be sure about that.

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 14, 2013, 10:54:10 am
So you are complaining about this now? why have wolves got there first 3 castles stacked to 10k troops? why did the greys stack their castles when they 'quit' strat, you guys seem to be very good at complaining when the game dosent suit you, when have the Mercs complained about the huge garrisons in the wolves castles ? never

Curaw: 10351 troops
Slezkh Castle : 9778
Rivacheg 7758
Bulugha: 5591

we either come to an agreement about castle garrisons or you guys stop being hypocrites.

There is such an agreement, we signed it - your clan didnt - and thats the end of that discussion.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on August 14, 2013, 11:13:34 am
When signing up for the battles in EU against Mercs, it is a very interesting parallel to NA; many factions are fighting FCC in NA just as many factions are fighing Apostates in EU. I am not sure if it is a similar situation in reality, but it is remarkably similar when one looks at nothing but the battles tab.

Do people in EU call Apostates/Mercs "scum"? Because in NA it is a common term to call FCC "scum", and they are also being bombarded by multiple factions in NA?

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on August 14, 2013, 11:40:04 am
There is such an agreement, we signed it - your clan didnt - and thats the end of that discussion.

So why are you not sticking to it, like all the other agreements you seem to sign and not adhere to
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Flans on August 14, 2013, 12:31:22 pm
So why are you not sticking to it, like all the other agreements you seem to sign and not adhere to


Lets say we take 5k out of each fief leaving it 5k and so on ,What are we meant to do the the 25k on the field when you guys are not coming out to play ? Just leave them out there and waste gold ? You bloody retard. You don't get it, We are attacking you. You're not attacking us.
camp all you like, idgaf we already won this war...
Mercs are just gonna whine and complain on forums now instead of even trying to walk out of their fiefs - Haboe


-Casimir
Are you referring to how you left us to fend for ourselves when we were backstabbed by mercs & their minions when Kinn left?
Coalition didn't do anything, or to be precise fill half the merc rosters. Templars offered us fiefs somewhere in the sands to gtfo out of snow lands. that's an exemplary act of camaraderie, basically meaning you wanted Mercs to kill us off.
We received more help and support from our traditional enemies than we did our (very) long time allies.

-Muffin
How old are you exactly? I know ur not underage... so plz stop acting dumb
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bavvoz on August 14, 2013, 01:06:45 pm
I dont know if i should laugh or just shake my head. Dont forget that its just a game, games are supposed to be fun.

Now i gotta figure out how to train my little peasant army into rivacheg retakers :)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Casimir on August 14, 2013, 01:27:57 pm

Lets say we take 5k out of each fief leaving it 5k and so on ,What are we meant to do the the 25k on the field when you guys are not coming out to play ? Just leave them out there and waste gold ? You bloody retard. You don't get it, We are attacking you. You're not attacking us.
camp all you like, idgaf we already won this war...
Mercs are just gonna whine and complain on forums now instead of even trying to walk out of their fiefs - Haboe


-Casimir
Are you referring to how you left us to fend for ourselves when we were backstabbed by mercs & their minions when Kinn left?
Coalition didn't do anything, or to be precise fill half the merc rosters. Templars offered us fiefs somewhere in the sands to gtfo out of snow lands. that's an exemplary act of camaraderie, basically meaning you wanted Mercs to kill us off.
We received more help and support from our traditional enemies than we did our (very) long time allies.

-Muffin
How old are you exactly? I know ur not underage... so plz stop acting dumb


Actually I personally delivered 2k troops straight to your homelands in the middle of you're war. We we're at the time fighting our own engagement in the south. I called a ceasefire when you were at your weakest and I forged a deal that favoured you considerably.  The fact I didn't get involved in you're petty squabblings is because that had been our agreement with Kinngrimm.  So please pup don't bark unless you're master allows it, you clearly do not know of what you speak.

Grandmom, as you know I was willing to stand by you as I had Kinngrimm. However breaking an agreement that I had forged and given my personal backing to enforce is simply an insult to me. If we are to talk of who betrayed who it would not be us but you.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tyr_ on August 14, 2013, 01:29:34 pm
come out of ur fiefs Mercs, the big bad grey order aren't up here anymore, its just you and the Wolves now, come and lets have some lunch together.
Now as Woody said we await your fabled counterattack as we have been waiting these past 6 weeks... come already before the next strat wipe plz.

Good one mate, thats why i see their armies around & north of my castle?^^

There is such an agreement, we signed it - your clan didnt - and thats the end of that discussion.

Well, I am not making any decisions for strat anymore, but tbh i would not lower the garrisons in order to give you a nice time to attack.
I kind of like greys/drz, theyre fine enemies on strat and i can be somewhat sure that they will stick to an agreement, so i'd lower my castles garrison in order to get some nice fights against them, like we did in grunwalder for some battles, even though i think it will be very expensive for me to upkeep all this troops when they are on myself^^.

But wolves or this cotgs/blade guys, well, even when we were allies i only found you annoying, this hasn't changed much so far considering your behaviour. Only good thing is that I don't have to do strat anymore, less fiefs, less ppl needed!
So if you want to go on with your plan of wiping us, feel free to attack some other castle than alburq, but i can tell you that they are all bitches to take.
Too bad i was so occupied with my final exams before you attacked, i already had planned to stock up our walled fiefs in the north to 6-7k^^.

Ps:
We actually wanted low our garrisons in all our fiefs but then obama insult putin and we kinda lost motivation  :P

Putin > Obama  :!:  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Razzer on August 14, 2013, 03:02:40 pm
Dear chadz,
could you please delete this pile of crap called Strategus?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Heibai on August 14, 2013, 03:56:52 pm
Too much diplomatic tittle tattle here, amusing to read, but don't forget to make war.  :mrgreen:

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Both got sexy voices.  :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 14, 2013, 05:00:05 pm
Myself and Grandmom have been in talks these last few days and hopefully tonight, if not definately tomorrow, my new little enterprise will be open for business ;)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Silicium on August 14, 2013, 05:07:18 pm
Myself and Grandmom have been in talks these last few days and hopefully tonight, if not definately tomorrow, my new little enterprise will be open for business ;)
You found a new love agein?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Jacu on August 14, 2013, 06:27:43 pm
Did Mercs come out and play with us ?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 14, 2013, 08:09:42 pm
So why are you not sticking to it, like all the other agreements you seem to sign and not adhere to
Oh we are, to those that signed it should they attack, however since u didnt sign (haboe said no) - prob afraid greys would also sign it - why should we lower garrison for you?

Cant both eat the cookie and keep it my friend
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 14, 2013, 08:29:40 pm

Actually I personally delivered 2k troops straight to your homelands in the middle of you're war. We we're at the time fighting our own engagement in the south. I called a ceasefire when you were at your weakest and I forged a deal that favoured you considerably.  The fact I didn't get involved in you're petty squabblings is because that had been our agreement with Kinngrimm.  So please pup don't bark unless you're master allows it, you clearly do not know of what you speak.

Grandmom, as you know I was willing to stand by you as I had Kinngrimm. However breaking an agreement that I had forged and given my personal backing to enforce is simply an insult to me. If we are to talk of who betrayed who it would not be us but you.

Cas, you honored the old alliance between our clans, noone should say otherwise. You personally delivered 2k troops to aid us. You asked if I wanted you to come in full force to help us against the mercs - I said no. You also helped making the peace possible, and Im sure you did it to help us out, the only thing I have to disagree with is that the peace came whrn we were at our weekest, but thats beside the point.

We signed the peace with full intentions of keeping it, but as explained elsewhere cause of different events we  decided to not take more shit thrown at us.

Im sorry that you take this as an insult cas, like I said earlier - the hardest part for some of our members about our decision to attack mrrcs was that the relations with u would get bad.

Correct me if Im wrong but before the attack on mercs we offered 10k shiny to help you out in the desert, armies we would help you with. An attack on cotgs, bad treating of our members by mercs, threats from mercs made us change course.

You know this, you also know our correspondence during the first war, I have been fighting the greys since my first week playing strat, now im not. Why? You know why....
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 14, 2013, 08:41:05 pm
Can you guys start a new thread, 31 pages is pushing it
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: ecorcheur_brokar on August 14, 2013, 10:19:09 pm
Cas, you honored the old alliance between our clans, noone should say otherwise. You personally delivered 2k troops to aid us. You asked if I wanted you to come in full force to help us against the mercs - I said no. You also helped making the peace possible, and Im sure you did it to help us out, the only thing I have to disagree with is that the peace came whrn we were at our weekest, but thats beside the point.

We signed the peace with full intentions of keeping it, but as explained elsewhere cause of different events we  decided to not take more shit thrown at us.

Im sorry that you take this as an insult cas, like I said earlier - the hardest part for some of our members about our decision to attack mrrcs was that the relations with u would get bad.

Correct me if Im wrong but before the attack on mercs we offered 10k shiny to help you out in the desert, armies we would help you with. An attack on cotgs, bad treating of our members by mercs, threats from mercs made us change course.

You know this, you also know our correspondence during the first war, I have been fighting the greys since my first week playing strat, now im not. Why? You know why....

I would add that this ceasefire was quickly broke by mercs who attacked Cotgs some weeks after and then start to threaten us (the ecorcheur at that time) that if we didn't gave up a village to the conquistador, they would attack us and the barabe would do the same.

Maybe the terms of this peace agreement would have been respected for the big faction (like mercs and wolves) but I'm not sure that the small factions allied to the wolves would have been really protected by this agreement. Because when I asked the coalition for help as the mercs and conquistador were about the break the treaty, they told me they would be on our side but would send no army.

During this "ceasefire", the small factions allied to the wolves could have been crushed as the coalition and the templars would have been standing there just watching and telling their disagreement.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Casimir on August 14, 2013, 10:36:52 pm
The point stands anyone that accuses me or my faction of betraying our allies is ill informed and really should be muzzled.  I understand peoples grievances and have tried long and hard to be as open minded as possible to this situation.  However when my name is slandered and I see lies thrown around I feel it necessary to speak.  When I see people making outrageous and unfounded comments I feel it necessary to speak.  When people make an arse of themselves and besmirch the memory of others I feel it necessary to speak.

Neither faction has a high horse here and the actions of both have aided our enemies.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Vovka on August 15, 2013, 09:55:40 am
Correct me if Im wrong but before the attack on mercs we offered 10k shiny to help you out in the desert, armies we would help you with. An attack on cotgs, bad treating of our members by mercs, threats from mercs made us change course.
Oh u bastards! :evil:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on August 15, 2013, 11:06:23 am
There were actual plans to wipe the desert, despite the 10k garrisons.

As from my side kinngrimm ruined those plans by plotting in the north. Multiple factions betrayed kinns plans, so i changed course from sending to desert, to preparing for war with wolves.
Kinn left, the whole peacething came up so that war didn't really get going, so we went to prepare for uif instead. Then wolves happened again.

In all this the templars have not been doing stuff that goes against any of its allies approval.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Molly on August 15, 2013, 11:54:36 am
[...]
In all this the templars have not been doing stuff that goes against any of its allies approval.
Not sure if this really is a quality in a game where war is the only real purpose, don't you think?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 15, 2013, 12:00:11 pm
Oh u bastards! :evil:

For the childrens sake ofc Vovka  :D

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Silicium on August 15, 2013, 02:05:25 pm
I would add that this ceasefire was quickly broke by mercs who attacked Cotgs some weeks after and then start to threaten us (the ecorcheur at that time) that if we didn't gave up a village to the conquistador, they would attack us and the barabe would do the same.
The Cotgs attack was done way before the war it self happened, or that the agreement you speak of could have been made, and those attacks were done in regards of them attacking our trade routes, i also remember the cotgs attacking several caravans in apostates territory during the cease fire, so your statement is illegitimate.

As for your fief, it doesn't surprise me much, since you made a deal with the greys about taking one of the conquistador fief.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Vovka on August 15, 2013, 02:36:08 pm
For the childrens sake ofc Vovka  :D
I am glad that the wolves had backstab mercs and I did not have to backstab greys for the sake baby bears in the desert  :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: woody on August 15, 2013, 03:23:25 pm
Actually read the posts, for example i've advocated the change to strat rules to allow 1500 man attacks versus any size garrison which would open it up again, or anything that means an attack on a stacked castle does'nt take prohibitive troops that cant be used in timer limit.

Also siege equipment is too buggy and catapults cant be used versus wood etc. This is not qq'ing its a simple statement of a fault that everyone is aware of.

Its meant to be a game, at the moment every clan makes sure their essential fiefs are very tough to take. Every clan will exploit loopholes, what I want is not the mercs to do a Haboe and expose their crucial fiefs but for the game engine/rules to allow a more liquid game. Its meant to be fun, grinding masses of troops to stack in castles is not fun, or not my idea of it anyway.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 15, 2013, 06:50:12 pm
The Cotgs attack was done way before the war it self happened, or that the agreement you speak of could have been made, and those attacks were done in regards of them attacking our trade routes, i also remember the cotgs attacking several caravans in apostates territory during the cease fire, so your statement is illegitimate.

As for your fief, it doesn't surprise me much, since you made a deal with the greys about taking one of the conquistador fief.

Wrong, cotgs got attacked when trying tp leave kapi lands after pesce was signed. Ask your leaders. Situation was solved since Niemand said it was ok to loose the 1500 or so troops to keep the peace. No merc caravan was attacked after peace was signed. So, according to the treaty mercs broke the peace but our side at that point let it slip to keep it.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tyr_ on August 15, 2013, 07:21:50 pm
Cotgs army was attacked because it went into kapi lands, propably in order to reinforce one of their fiefs - kapi broke the peace already by not acting according to the terms that were made in the agreement. We simply attacked it because we didnt want to risk that any reinforcements arrive in kapikulu fiefs.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Silicium on August 15, 2013, 07:42:36 pm
Wrong, cotgs got attacked when trying tp leave kapi lands after pesce was signed. Ask your leaders. Situation was solved since Niemand said it was ok to loose the 1500 or so troops to keep the peace. No merc caravan was attacked after peace was signed. So, according to the treaty mercs broke the peace but our side at that point let it slip to keep it.
Not wrong as i was speaking before the war, Back wen Kinngrim was leading and since you clearly think we back stabbed you i don't think you know a thing about this either, i remember exactly where Bavvo got attacked, as for cotgs attacking caravan, not wrong either, they attacked torben multiple times around Ismirala area.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: darmaster on August 16, 2013, 01:11:03 am
i'll give you all a break from time to time with a non-sense gif, is it ok for you? i just need + from you because i'll feel like a tough guy in this community which is really important to me because i have no life, ok? please i need help call 911 ok?


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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 16, 2013, 09:43:30 am
Cotgs army was attacked because it went into kapi lands, propably in order to reinforce one of their fiefs - kapi broke the peace already by not acting according to the terms that were made in the agreement. We simply attacked it because we didnt want to risk that any reinforcements arrive in kapikulu fiefs.

I know you did, but the fact is that they had been stuck in kapi lands since the war started and wss going home. Did u bother to ask them? Did you bother to warn them? Did you bother to give their troops back if they lay down their arms? No, like the mercs usually do you just charge, you were wrong, Niemand let his army go to waste to keep the peace - correct?

You had no problem with breaking the peace when u attacked cotgs, you had no problems with threatening us during the peace, you had no problem with threatening Ecurcheurs during the peace. This is not a good way to handle diplomacy when a unstable peace is signed - but since you are all high and mighty perhaps you thought noone would be able to do anythibg about it. Just keep bullying the small clans like you allways do.

Well guess what, the small guys got tired of taking your shit Tyr, action - reaction

And btw we did the same thing before we took rivacheg, we attacked a barabe guy with 2000 troops on his way to riva. We didnt know if he would reinforce it, we offered his stuff and troops back and an extra 5k goods as a little bonus. Same situation different approach.

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on August 16, 2013, 11:26:08 am
I know you did, but the fact is that they had been stuck in kapi lands since the war started and wss going home. Did u bother to ask them? Did you bother to warn them? Did you bother to give their troops back if they lay down their arms? No, like the mercs usually do you just charge, you were wrong, Niemand let his army go to waste to keep the peace - correct?

You had no problem with breaking the peace when u attacked cotgs, you had no problems with threatening us during the peace, you had no problem with threatening Ecurcheurs during the peace. This is not a good way to handle diplomacy when a unstable peace is signed - but since you are all high and mighty perhaps you thought noone would be able to do anythibg about it. Just keep bullying the small clans like you allways do.

I bothered to ask them, none of the online could reply to why he was there, so attack.
I offered them to pick up a new army at ismirala castle, they didn't bother to do so. Don't come with bullshit if you don't know what we offered them ;)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 16, 2013, 01:50:26 pm
I bothered to ask them, none of the online could reply to why he was there, so attack.
I offered them to pick up a new army at ismirala castle, they didn't bother to do so. Don't come with bullshit if you don't know what we offered them ;)

Yes, Im sure you did all you could to prevent an attack, and that the threats you spread on the small clans were really just meant to be helping the already fragile peacetreaty  :wink:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tyr_ on August 16, 2013, 02:21:59 pm
We did not threaten the smaller clans. We simply told you that considering kapikulu were your allies we do not expect you to take action in this war on any side and it is fine for us if you stay out of it (instead of helping as it was said in the treaty we made).
I could not care less about cotgs. Their army was in kapi lands and instead of going straight home they took some weird way. If they wouldve gone directly home no one would have attacked them. We told them that we will give the stuff back if they come to pick it up, i already made a list of the items that belong to them, but since nobody showed up i guess they simply did not care. We even wanted to give bashis the 4k back they lost to us because strat got freezed and the battles came up at some stupid time no one was playing, and they were our enemies.

So get your facts together before you bother posting. All i can say is that i really do not care about the opinion of clans like wolves or cotgs, i rather talk to grown-ups. I am nearly out of strat anyway, so I'll leave the trash to you guys now, just try to get some facts in aswell. Talking to you is not worth my time.

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Lizard_man on August 16, 2013, 04:52:50 pm
Well guess what, the small guys got tired of taking your shit Tyr

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on August 16, 2013, 05:37:02 pm
Brave Mercs. Best clan in EU. You are not wiped out from the map only because of shitty mechanic, so keep to yourself all these weird comments and conspiracy theories of history.  Just  :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Jack1 on August 16, 2013, 05:58:42 pm
jack1 scratched his balls sack wondering why the EUs stopped having more than one battle per day. He quickly shit in his hand and flung it on the NA map and screamed "THAT IS WHERE SHIT IS GOING DOWN YOU BORING EUROmy old friendS".
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on August 17, 2013, 03:21:52 am
This is EU sandpit and EU sand. It's not your business what we're doing here. By the way, please dual Big Mac with a triple cheese, and for that DIET Coke hehehe
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Keshian on August 17, 2013, 04:41:14 am
Brave Mercs. Best clan in EU. You are not wiped out from the map only because of shitty mechanic, so keep to yourself all these weird comments and conspiracy theories of history.  Just  :lol:

Haven't seen you even try and attack dhirim, senuzgda castles sieges were pretty fail (we did 1:1 every time we attacked that castle in NA), and derchios castle was never attempted.  All 3 are stone castle fiefs - i would say more you guys are afraid to fight cities and castles even when they offered to reduce troop counts like they did repeatedly for you in senuzgda since you can't crutch on heavy warhorses like normal, then any broken game mechanic.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Perverz on August 17, 2013, 09:39:42 am
Brave Mercs. Best clan in EU. You are not wiped out from the map only because of shitty mechanic, so keep to yourself all these weird comments and conspiracy theories of history.  Just  :lol:

learn how to block
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on August 17, 2013, 09:46:07 am
Brave Mercs. Best clan in EU. You are not wiped out from the map only because of shitty mechanic, so keep to yourself all these weird comments and conspiracy theories of history.  Just  :lol:

Dosen't that remind you of some other faction that crawled back into their castles when they were losing, you so easily forget that dont you, maybe i am wrong but im sure another faction stayed in their castles with over 10k garrisons and refused to come out, i maybe wrong again.

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on August 17, 2013, 01:21:25 pm
It's too easy to stack and go inactive and hold onto a few densely populated fiefs atm.

I guess the real proof of whether you're like Grey Order or not will be whether you actually come out of your castles and retake your land at some point. If you don't and you just sit there then you can't claim Grey Order did exactly the same as you since they made their come-back, you will certainly be more cowardly than them. But if you do come out (eventually) like they did and begin trying to reconquer then noone can accuse you of hiding.

So whatever words you fling at each other, i'm just waiting to see what happens next- cos at the moment Apostates can survive but nothing more, hanging onto the excuse that for a time Grey Order did the same, but if Apostates don't make a come-back, then you don't even have that excuse anymore, cos unless you reconquer every piece of your land you will have done significantly worse out of the same situation that happened with Grey Order over christmas, that you constantly use to justify your current strategy. So let's wait and see if anyone's got more to them than just talk, cos unless you make the push to reconquer your land any comparison you make between yourself and Grey Order is garbage, and frankly an insult to Grey Order who took everything back very quickly. Actions= louder than words.

P.s. It's nice to see that the flame war has still been simmering away this whole time at a low temperature.
We can compare consider they were inactive in their fief for several weeks
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Keshian on August 17, 2013, 02:11:25 pm
We can compare consider they were inactive in their fief for several weeks

Also, grey order has something like 200 cd key accounts - little easier to "come back" if you are the single largest faction on map in terms of cd keys (in actual players 2nd to coalition and possibly 4th or 5th depending).  Also, they got to defend their most defensible fiefs repeatedly and gain gear and have enemy lose large amounts of troops before coming back - grey order does absolutely nothing but a few open field battles and a few villages - wolves have done almost everything when it comes to apostates. 

So much of the grey order is based on FOTM builds which favor heavy cav builds which are incredibly easy to do well with and steel pick spamming with shields - in a siege both those broken builds get wrecked by superior players.  So really its a stalemate - apostates are smaller can being atatcked by multiple factions so can't push abck out and grey order is too terrified to ever try to take a decent castle or city "because its the game being broken or bad for why they dont do well" despite doing poorly in all the stone castle sieges as well.  Sorry you cant ride a warhorse into a castle :( :twisted:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on August 17, 2013, 05:13:23 pm
Also, grey order kesh has something like 200 cd key accounts - little easier to "come back" if you are the single largest faction on map in terms of cd keys (in actual players 2nd to coalition and possibly 4th or 5th depending).  Also, they got to defend their most defensible fiefs repeatedly and gain gear and have enemy lose large amounts of troops before coming back - grey order does absolutely nothing but a few open field battles and a few villages - wolves have done almost everything when it comes to apostates. 

So much of the grey order is based on FOTM builds which favor heavy cav builds which are incredibly easy to do well with and steel pick spamming with shields - in a siege both those broken builds get wrecked by superior players.  So really its a stalemate - apostates are smaller can being atatcked by multiple factions so can't push abck out and grey order is too terrified to ever try to take a decent castle or city "because its the game being broken or bad for why they dont do well" despite doing poorly in all the stone castle sieges as well.  Sorry you cant ride a warhorse into a castle :( :twisted:
ftfy

Also Wercheg and Grunwalder battles went pretty fucking well for GO (I saw 1-1 kds in Grunwalder until the timer went out), you cried so fucking hard about Dhirim, and at least when you can attack something you don't have to bring 3k troops per attack or more due to severe stacking
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Erasmas on August 17, 2013, 10:39:40 pm
Also, grey order has something like 200 cd key accounts - little easier to "come back" if you are the single largest faction on map in terms of cd keys (in actual players 2nd to coalition and possibly 4th or 5th depending).  Also, they got to defend their most defensible fiefs repeatedly and gain gear and have enemy lose large amounts of troops before coming back - grey order does absolutely nothing but a few open field battles and a few villages - wolves have done almost everything when it comes to apostates. 

So much of the grey order is based on FOTM builds which favor heavy cav builds which are incredibly easy to do well with and steel pick spamming with shields - in a siege both those broken builds get wrecked by superior players.  So really its a stalemate - apostates are smaller can being atatcked by multiple factions so can't push abck out and grey order is too terrified to ever try to take a decent castle or city "because its the game being broken or bad for why they dont do well" despite doing poorly in all the stone castle sieges as well.  Sorry you cant ride a warhorse into a castle :( :twisted:

You've been playing this game for how long, Kesh? 3 days? A week already? LOL

BTW - we have like 3 guys riding horsies...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on August 18, 2013, 04:17:06 am
So much of the grey order is based on FOTM builds which favor heavy cav builds which are incredibly easy to do well with and steel pick spamming with shields - in a siege both those broken builds get wrecked by superior players.  So really its a stalemate - apostates are smaller can being atatcked by multiple factions so can't push abck out and grey order is too terrified to ever try to take a decent castle or city "because its the game being broken or bad for why they dont do well" despite doing poorly in all the stone castle sieges as well.  Sorry you cant ride a warhorse into a castle :( :twisted:

Try and play vs Coalition. The amount of cav and seeing Champ Chargers makes you want to insta-rq.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: serr on August 18, 2013, 08:50:17 am
Try and play vs Coalition. The amount of cav and seeing Champ Chargers makes you want to insta-rq.

Lol. Exactly my thougts when I play vs Greys :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on August 18, 2013, 12:37:57 pm
Also, grey order has something like 200 cd key accounts - little easier to "come back" if you are the single largest faction on map in terms of cd keys (in actual players 2nd to coalition and possibly 4th or 5th depending).  Also, they got to defend their most defensible fiefs repeatedly and gain gear and have enemy lose large amounts of troops before coming back - grey order does absolutely nothing but a few open field battles and a few villages - wolves have done almost everything when it comes to apostates. 

So much of the grey order is based on FOTM builds which favor heavy cav builds which are incredibly easy to do well with and steel pick spamming with shields - in a siege both those broken builds get wrecked by superior players.  So really its a stalemate - apostates are smaller can being atatcked by multiple factions so can't push abck out and grey order is too terrified to ever try to take a decent castle or city "because its the game being broken or bad for why they dont do well" despite doing poorly in all the stone castle sieges as well.  Sorry you cant ride a warhorse into a castle :( :twisted:

Chill out and smile although once you angry fat bitch  :)

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/428372/august-06-2013/stephest-colbchella--013---daft-punk-d

Have a nice Sunday  :)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Keshian on August 18, 2013, 02:04:49 pm
Chill out and smile although once you angry fat bitch  :)

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/428372/august-06-2013/stephest-colbchella--013---daft-punk-d

Have a nice Sunday  :)

Sorry, couldn't understand with the weak grammar and the vague inaccurate references - keep crutching harder on picks - let me know when you are brave enough to try 1 different weapon or build in the game.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Fips on August 18, 2013, 03:16:21 pm
Try and play vs Coalition. The amount of cav and seeing Champ Chargers makes you want to insta-rq.

Not really. When it comes to cav both GO and COA are about the same when talking about numbers. In some battles, GO has superior cav, in some COA does.
I'm not sure if it's the case in GO, but whenever i fight in strat we start off with a nice amount of cav and the longer the fights goes, the more cav start retreating into infantry because they are too much of a coward to take the instant deaths when you bump a shitton of enemy infantry.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on August 18, 2013, 03:30:42 pm
Not really. When it comes to cav both GO and COA are about the same when talking about numbers. In some battles, GO has superior cav, in some COA does.
I'm not sure if it's the case in GO, but whenever i fight in strat we start off with a nice amount of cav and the longer the fights goes, the more cav start retreating into infantry because they are too much of a coward to take the instant deaths when you bump a shitton of enemy infantry.
to bump shitton of infantry you need to avoid shitton of pikes, have you played cav in last 50 strat battles fips?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Fips on August 18, 2013, 03:40:26 pm
to bump shitton of infantry you need to avoid shitton of pikes, have you played cav in last 50 strat battles fips?

I have had my fair share of shitty k/ds because i was a bumpy cav. Not very recently, but i know what it's like and how frustrating it can be. I still don't get why so many people bitch out when they see all the pikes. Even if you stop infront of 2 or 3 pikes and die in an instant, it's time you can get for other cav to actually bump infantry. Just stopping pikes and long spears from poking into your own infantry can make your death worth it. Pikes and longspear can stop a good amount of cav, yes, but at some point there is no way you can stop all cav that is coming to you and that are the moments where cavalry can shine.
I wish GK was active again. They weren't really useful on foot, but at least they knew how important cavalry is for field battles and rarely bitched out.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Casimir on August 18, 2013, 07:49:16 pm
If you want someone to ride around on a horse and get a terrible K:D I'm the only man you need.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on August 18, 2013, 07:53:50 pm
Dear Mercs,

If you really want to play, I have a proposal for you. Reduce garrison in Dihrim to 2.5 k + current population and promise me that you will doing that every day, until the fall of city or exhaustion of our forces - just like we did it in Uxkhal, and we will promise that we will do at least one siege every day, for fun and for everyone. We can make an appointment for constant time of attacks. For example, every day at 22:00.

Do not hide behind fucked up mechanics. Keep face and fight or shut up forever.

We are waiting for your official answer.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 18, 2013, 07:55:57 pm
Dear Mercs,

If you really want to play, I have a proposal for you. Reduce garrison in Dihrim to 2.5 k + current population and promise me that you will doing that every day, until the fall of city or exhaustion of our forces - just like we did it in Uxkhal, and we will promise that we will do at least one siege every day, for fun and for everyone. We can make an appointment for constant time of attacks. For example, every day at 22:00.

Do not hide behind fucked up mechanics. Keep face and fight or shut up forever.

We are waiting for your official answer.


How about we change it to Alburq?

 :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 18, 2013, 09:01:05 pm
How about we change it to Alburq?

 :lol:

Dhirim is WAY way worse.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on August 18, 2013, 09:22:06 pm
Dear Mercs,

If you really want to play, I have a proposal for you. Reduce garrison in Dihrim to 2.5 k + current population and promise me that you will doing that every day, until the fall of city or exhaustion of our forces - just like we did it in Uxkhal, and we will promise that we will do at least one siege every day, for fun and for everyone. We can make an appointment for constant time of attacks. For example, every day at 22:00.

Do not hide behind fucked up mechanics. Keep face and fight or shut up forever.

We are waiting for your official answer.



Hmm, will have to discuss that.

When i did alburq to 6k i got a huge constant shitstorm of enemy's about us abusing wooden walls, catapults,  ladders and anything you could think off.
Desertsituation didn't help either (10k+ not willing to lower).

I might as well say if you really want to have those fights and xp, you have 2 other enemy's that have plenty of low garrisons ;)

You rejected my idea of multiple 500 men themebattles for xp and fun.
You don't seem to care for the xp, you only care for wiping mercs  :lol:

But i'll get back to you on the dhirim thing, might be fun to have battles there.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Kalp on August 18, 2013, 09:55:28 pm
at 22:00
No, 20:00 is better

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Falka on August 18, 2013, 10:09:28 pm
We can make an appointment for constant time of attacks. For example, every day at 22:00.


It's not possible... Every two days - yes, but you can not attack them every day at the same time...
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on August 18, 2013, 10:11:43 pm
There are plenty other enemies you guys can fight, and i doubt we are coming out, like you guys know lowering fief garrisons is not an option for the mercs atm, if you guys wanted to have fun xp you should have thought twice about trying to wipe us.

COA have a pretty big army how about you do fun xp battles with them?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Erasmas on August 18, 2013, 10:19:40 pm
You rejected my idea of multiple 500 men themebattles for xp and fun.
You don't seem to care for the xp, you only care for wiping mercs  :lol:

No, We just want to combine business with pleasure  :D :D :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on August 18, 2013, 10:34:25 pm
It's not possible... Every two days - yes, but you can not attack them every day at the same time...

Yes, of course you're right. My point is that there will be any battles at 4am
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on August 19, 2013, 01:23:52 am
Just do it! The round will be over soon and stop being so precious about the pixels Haboe. I need to retire my alt damn it :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Silicium on August 19, 2013, 04:35:44 am
Just do it! The round will be over soon and stop being so precious about the pixels Haboe. I need to retire my alt damn it :P
Sadly it's not up to him, just check who is the owner of the fief  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Keshian on August 19, 2013, 05:10:17 am
Just do it with dhirim - you really should make an agreement to allow endless attacks on dhirim until exhaustion without worrying about troop cap limits.  Its a really fun city to defend  :twisted:

We had a barrel of laughs attacking it here on NA side.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on August 19, 2013, 10:58:47 am
Just do it! The round will be over soon and stop being so precious about the pixels Haboe. I need to retire my alt damn it :P

You ppl act as if there is just 1 town on the whole map that you can attack  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Erasmas on August 19, 2013, 02:17:57 pm
You ppl act as if there is just 1 town on the whole map that you can attack  :rolleyes:

We were thinking about Durquba, but Dhirim is closer, so...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on August 19, 2013, 02:26:37 pm
We were thinking about Durquba, but Dhirim is closer, so...  :rolleyes:

Well, dhirim has a lower garrison then durquba so go ahead ;)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Vovka on August 19, 2013, 02:55:06 pm
Well, dhirim has a lower garrison then durquba so go ahead ;)
I see what you're trying to do! you're trying to get the time to Ginger Pussy and his trick with "I beg all the neutral traders....."  :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on August 19, 2013, 03:04:30 pm
I see what you're trying to do! you're trying to get the time to Ginger Pussy and his trick with "I beg all the neutral traders....."  :P

Nah, we have been watchign the uif closely. Greys got their ass kicked, went back to hide behind garrisons. DRZ got their ass kicked, went back to hide behind garrisons. Apostates got their ass kicked, guess whats happening now :?:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Vovka on August 19, 2013, 03:07:57 pm
Nah, we have been watchign the uif closely. Greys got their ass kicked, went back to hide behind garrisons. DRZ got their ass kicked, went back to hide behind garrisons. Apostates got their ass kicked, guess whats happening now :?:
and then Coalition get a kick in the ass? then CA get a kick in the ass?   :twisted:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on August 19, 2013, 03:22:41 pm
and then Coalition get a kick in the ass? then CA get a kick in the ass?   :twisted:

Well, poor coalition has been the attacker in almost all of its fights, poor guys preparing all those defences for nothing.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on August 19, 2013, 04:51:17 pm
You ppl act as if there is just 1 town on the whole map that you can attack  :rolleyes:

I'm neutral now. I sign for both sides :P I just want the xp!
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on August 19, 2013, 04:57:52 pm
can i fight for UIF sometimes? i would like to try it at least once.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Falka on August 19, 2013, 05:14:32 pm
can i fight for UIF sometimes? i would like to try it at least once.

I wanted to fight for DRZ, but they never provide their TS...  :rolleyes: On the other hand mercs without randomers wouldn't have 20 players in their roster :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Erasmas on August 19, 2013, 06:58:29 pm
DRZ and GO are hanging out on the same TS :) Sign up and we will see :)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on August 19, 2013, 08:52:35 pm
UIF TS - s1.dedyki24.pl:9967 (178.19.110.162:9967) password: fenol99  Welcome!
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Kalp on August 19, 2013, 09:41:24 pm
I wanted to fight for DRZ, but they never provide their TS...  :rolleyes:
You must be lazy or blind if you never found it :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Falka on August 19, 2013, 10:03:30 pm
You must be lazy or blind if you never found it :P

I wasnt looking for, but a few times I applied for Drz, checked battles description and there was never their TS adress. I didn't care enough to ask about it, especially that the other side almost always provides TS adress.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Silicium on August 19, 2013, 10:19:32 pm
UIF TS - s1.dedyki24.pl:9967 (178.19.110.162:9967) password: fenol99  Welcome!
Always and fullcream there? say yes please :o
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on August 19, 2013, 10:35:56 pm
Always and fullcream there? say yes please :o

YES  :)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Conquisitore on August 20, 2013, 01:50:08 am
NEWS !

peasant army defeated a wild shiny horde !

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Keshian on August 20, 2013, 01:50:49 am
NEWS !

peasant army defeated a wild shiny horde !

visitors can't see pics , please register or login


??? Look naked to me.  Peasants killing nakeds at 1:2 ratio from what the battle report said with twice as many mercs showing up as them.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Conquisitore on August 20, 2013, 01:52:22 am
after they lost their shiny armors we raped them, btw. we had one horse
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on August 20, 2013, 09:58:32 am
after they lost their shiny armors we raped them, btw. we had one horse

you were being raped before hand, as it looks like it and then there were no armours, so peasant gear is greater than no gear, plus you guys did awful for having more than double the roster
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on August 20, 2013, 12:22:38 pm
Whatever, it was a random fun-inspired action by sjarken, and it was fun for me  :mrgreen:

We had about 100 armors, you guys started with... 20 or so?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Conquisitore on August 20, 2013, 02:26:44 pm
Nearly :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: jtobiasm on August 20, 2013, 08:31:36 pm
All still arguing about strat hahaha, grow up
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bjord on August 20, 2013, 08:58:38 pm
Will this thread ever die?

Just fucking kill each other already. :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 20, 2013, 11:20:39 pm
I'm afk strat (boredom) for a few days ALBURQ IS FREE

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 20, 2013, 11:59:22 pm
ITEMBOMBING!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 21, 2013, 12:03:56 am
ITEMBOMBING!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Try it  :twisted:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Conquisitore on August 21, 2013, 05:11:54 am
Why we dont downgrade all the armys to peasant gear, would be much more fun  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on August 21, 2013, 09:47:20 am
Why we dont downgrade all the armys to peasant gear, would be much more fun  :mrgreen:

Than that would involve the Greys using skill and not armour crutching
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Conquisitore on August 21, 2013, 11:22:50 am
+1 cause of your signature
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Osiris on August 21, 2013, 10:16:24 pm
drama has died :(

*Starts singing to grandmoms kid*

Hush, child, darkness will rise from the deep,
and carry it out into sleep, child.
Darkness will rise from the deep,
and carry it out into sleep.

Grandmoms only son,
I'll shape your belief,
and you'll always know

that your father's a thief.
And you won't understand
the cause of your grief,
but you'll always follow
the voices.

Loyalty... Loyalty... Loyalty...

Grandmoms only son,
your spirit will
hate her.
The flower who married
your father the traitor.
And you will expose
his paltaple behavior,
for you are the proof
of how he betrayed
her loyalty.

Loyalty... Loyalty ... Loyalty...

Grandmoms only son,
each day you grow older,
each moment I'm watching
my vengeance unfold.
The child of his vibe,
the flesh of his soul,
will die in our returning
our birthright he stole.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny7NZPfl0l4

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: serr on August 24, 2013, 08:03:00 pm
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4928
Come on guys, if you really have that many troops - better make some themed battles, IMO there is no reason to waste troops like that :(
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on August 24, 2013, 08:13:57 pm
I offered them themebattles, multiple 500 battles per night, response was "small battles are a waste of time".

So big battles it is ^^
There are plenty of targets to have 1500 men sieges on, they prefer to waste troops on 3200 men waves, i don't mind.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Flans on August 24, 2013, 09:24:53 pm
"There are plenty of targets to have 1500 men sieges on, they prefer to waste troops on 3200 men waves, i don't mind."


Name one fief "Other then fisdnar" that can be attacked with 1500. hobbit


Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Jack1 on August 24, 2013, 09:29:08 pm
"There are plenty of targets to have 1500 men sieges on, they prefer to waste troops on 3200 men waves, i don't mind."


Name one fief "Other then fisdnar" that can be attacked with 1500. hobbit

Vayejeg.

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Flans on August 24, 2013, 09:31:16 pm
Jack if we are talking about the whole of the EU map then sure there is alot. But we are talking only about merc fiefs
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on August 24, 2013, 09:33:13 pm
"There are plenty of targets to have 1500 men sieges on, they prefer to waste troops on 3200 men waves, i don't mind."


Name one fief "Other then fisdnar" that can be attacked with 1500. hobbit

There is plenty of fiefs other then the apostates ones to attack, there is around 10 factions on your side, but ya'll afraid to attack the coalition  :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on August 24, 2013, 09:50:49 pm
Well Hobbit, hate to break this to you but Rogue planned all this to get rid of you  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Conquisitore on August 25, 2013, 01:08:59 am
btw. new prime time battle at monday:

http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4931

would be great if a few guys could show up
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Erasmas on August 25, 2013, 08:30:42 pm
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4928
Come on guys, if you really have that many troops - better make some themed battles, IMO there is no reason to waste troops like that :(

I agree totally that it is a waste of tickets and that the stupid 1/3 rule should be changed. However, Strategus is still a strategic game (at least that's the idea) so ... it is a waste of tickets with some purpose in mind.

JEBAĆ MERCÓW

Themed battles are cool but will not replace the main reason why we play this game. And, Haboe, we have offered you lowering garrison, on reciprocal terms. You've denied, proposing themed battles. Well...

There is plenty of fiefs other then the apostates ones to attack

True, but these are not owned by mercs  :D :D :D

but ya'll afraid to attack the coalition  :lol:

lol indeed  :D


Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Conquisitore on August 25, 2013, 10:13:21 pm
*_*
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Falka on August 25, 2013, 10:17:25 pm
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Flans on August 31, 2013, 06:37:30 pm
Castle is impossible to take now, with smart catapult inside even siege machines are usless.
It should be option to besiege castle :) till defenders will starve. But required like 2 week time. It would prevent such situations :).

There's one other way... the human wave! proven effective by the Russians in world war 2. . . we'l have to make do with this until more strategic options are implemented.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: woody on September 06, 2013, 02:30:22 pm
This is now a sad thread, even I now pity the mercs. When does the war with the co-alition start?

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Erasmas on September 06, 2013, 02:39:34 pm
This is now a sad thread, even I now pity the mercs. When does the war with the co-alition start?

When Mercs are gone from the map. Or sooner, if coallition finally got bored, hehehe
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bavvoz on September 06, 2013, 05:00:52 pm
Please hurry up with that and end this misery :(
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Osiris on September 07, 2013, 10:52:10 am
The steward of Tehlrog castle rushes along the upper levels to find his lord Osiris.
He finds Osiris in his giant bed with a few bottles of whiskey and a couple of fine looking redheads.

"Lord Lord" he shouts
"What?" Osiris humbles rather sleepily
"There is an enemy army at the gates my lord"
Osiris shoots out of bed and hastily dresses.

"why didn't you say so man! who dares to attack my castle?"

"I believe they call themselves Balde they are led by a general called Kohl_Koepf3r"
Osiris just looks at the steward

"What the hell is a Balde?" he says.

"I belive they call themselves The Kingdom of Baltimores"
"ok what the fuck is a baltimore?"
"I dont know my lord"
"well find out boy!"
Osiris and the steward walk to the balcony and cast their eyes on the villainous horde

"They must be from some far off lands i have never seen a banner like that"
"Indeed lord our scholars do not know what to make of it"
"Foreign devils with a name like Koh koh kroh kopeh hell i cant even pronounce that heretics name"
"we shall send them back to the hell they came from lord"
"damn right we will, Rouse the men and prepare to defend our walls"

"Oh and one last thing" Osiris shouts as the steward walks away.
"yes lord?"
"Stop speaking in italics it looks stupid"
"Ok lord" The steward replies weakly.


TLDR - goway or die mkay.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Conquisitore on September 07, 2013, 05:52:44 pm
Troll answer:

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Serious answer:

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btw. nice post
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Osiris on September 07, 2013, 11:55:28 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XXsMaq0NU8c#t=28  (for some reason it doesnt skip to 28 seconds sometimes. so go to 28 seconds ^^)
replace the word Saruman with Balde :D And theoden with me just before Balde break a wall ^^


(k so im too lazy to write anything else :D )
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Conquisitore on September 07, 2013, 11:58:30 pm
where is my TNT ?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Osiris on September 07, 2013, 11:59:18 pm
have to settle for a catapult :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Conquisitore on September 08, 2013, 12:04:47 am
like this ?


oh sry i forgot something, replace prisoners with mercs :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Osiris on September 08, 2013, 10:30:01 am
ok apparently comparing the siege to helms deep is a warning offence  :mrgreen:



I am curious with both Balde and Wolves attacking my beloved home who gets to keep it "if" you take it?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on September 08, 2013, 10:37:11 am
ok apparently comparing the siege to helms deep is a warning offence  :mrgreen:



I am curious with the Greys attacking my beloved home who gets to keep it "if" you take it?

Changed it for you
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bredeus on September 08, 2013, 12:37:38 pm
No one cares. jebac mercow :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on September 08, 2013, 01:02:02 pm
No one cares. jebac mercow :P

Howcome noone cares Brede?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Conquisitore on September 08, 2013, 02:50:18 pm
Changed it for you

Since you believe we work for the Grey's, I will make you an offer: Why you dont join my clan for some time, then you will see we do our own shit, not forced by anyone.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on September 08, 2013, 03:05:00 pm
Since you believe we work for the Grey's, I will make you an offer: Why you dont join my clan for some time, then you will see we do our own shit, not forced by anyone.

They dont believe it since that would be embarrasing for them, they have to think Greys was behind all this. You and me and the other small clans involved knows what happened and how the north was taken. Everyone else on the map believe that greys staged it, gave us the troops, made the plan, gave us equipment etc.

We know what we did Conquisitore  :wink:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Keshian on September 08, 2013, 03:25:35 pm
They dont believe it since that would be embarrasing for them, they have to think Greys was behind all this. You and me and the other small clans involved knows what happened and how the north was taken. Everyone else on the map believe that greys staged it, gave us the troops, made the plan, gave us equipment etc.

We know what we did Conquisitore  :wink:


I dont think they are suggesting they gave you the gear and troops so much as ran the sieges for you since they could do it better than you could as well as being the majority of the mercs along with byzantium their allies.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Conquisitore on September 08, 2013, 03:31:47 pm
They dont believe it since that would be embarrasing for them, they have to think Greys was behind all this. You and me and the other small clans involved knows what happened and how the north was taken. Everyone else on the map believe that greys staged it, gave us the troops, made the plan, gave us equipment etc.

We know what we did Conquisitore  :wink:

But in my opinion Mercs should know, that not only Greys defeated them
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: DaveUKR on September 08, 2013, 03:45:07 pm
But in my opinion Mercs should know, that not only Greys defeated them

We're used to fight against bigger powers, it's the 3rd Strat in a row with the same situation. Yet we do not disband and still try to fight back unlike other opportunistic factions who switch sides or GTX once they feel the smallest danger. Maybe one day Mercs finally decide to fill the gap in their global aim: take part in Strategus as Mercenaries. That was my dream since the first Strategus but who will fight then?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Conquisitore on September 08, 2013, 03:55:10 pm
Why you dont start living your dream ?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: DaveUKR on September 08, 2013, 04:03:16 pm
Why you dont start living your dream ?

I tried it multiple times but there were many reasons to do the opposite: friendly factions who would have no chance against UIF, we couldn't betray and leave them alone, some certain Mercs wanted blood of UIF and there would be no room for Mercs in Strategus where you only have 1 big alliance and underdogs. The only way Strat can work is just destroy all the alliances but that's impossible. I can't imagine Greys, Druzhina, Fallens or even Templars fighting on their own.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on September 08, 2013, 04:36:31 pm

I dont think they are suggesting they gave you the gear and troops so much as ran the sieges for you since they could do it better than you could as well as being the majority of the mercs along with byzantium their allies.
Keshian, what you think is not very relevant or accurate. Why do u think leading a battle is rocket science? Now Odysseus is leading the wolves, me and overlord lead all wolves battles aftr kinngrimm left- none of us lead any battles before. And about the the mercing, well no clan fills its own roster - all major battles has the two blocks on different sides so whats ur point?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Aderyn on September 08, 2013, 05:19:42 pm
Keshian, what you think is not very relevant or accurate. Why do u think leading a battle is rocket science? Now Odysseus is leading the wolves, me and overlord lead all wolves battles aftr kinngrimm left- none of us lead any battles before. And about the the mercing, well no clan fills its own roster - all major battles has the two blocks on different sides so whats ur point?

He doesn't have a point. And yes he is delusional so don't bother actually reading what he says since about 10% of it is partially true rest being bs.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Kalp on September 08, 2013, 05:33:32 pm
They dont believe it since that would be embarrasing for them, they have to think Greys was behind all this. You and me and the other small clans involved knows what happened and how the north was taken. Everyone else on the map believe that greys staged it, gave us the troops, made the plan, gave us equipment etc.

We know what we did Conquisitore  :wink:
Conspiracy  :!:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on September 08, 2013, 05:45:38 pm
They dont believe it since that would be embarrassing for them, they have to think Greys was behind all this. You and me and the other small clans involved knows what happened and how the north was taken. Everyone else on the map believe that greys staged it, gave us the troops, made the plan, gave us equipment etc.

We know what we did Conquisitore  :wink:
Its not embarrassing when they are 10 factions against 1, who probably combined have 10x the amount of active players, so yh we are 'embarrassed'
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on September 08, 2013, 06:45:45 pm
Its not embarrassing when they are 10 factions against 1, who probably combined have 10x the amount of active players, so yh we are 'embarrassed'

We were 5 factions that attacked you initially, or 4 to be exact since one was  cutting your south/north region by standing in the mechin forest. I could call the names of every one leading an army in that campaign from every clan, since we had very tight communications between the clans involved during the first 4 weeks of the war - and believe med they werent that many.

What happened to you was that you panicked from what u saw - you got attacked from several directions more or less at the same time and lost two cities, a castle and some villages in a matter of days - a week before you felt like you were on top of the world and that noone except the Greys might be able to hurt you.

Sorry to say that if you would have just counterattacked us with full force you would have struck us back and probably would still be the rulers of the northern region. The wolves went into this campaign knowing the high risk and probability of getting wiped.

You know nothing Strudog, zip, nada

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tomas on September 08, 2013, 07:42:59 pm
Some stats because I was bored

UIF & Friends (Greys, DRZ, Shu Han, Wolves, Kapikulu, OdE, CotgS, Balde, Kingdom of the Nord, Conquistador, The Ottoman Empire, Rus, Union, The Empire & Brodnics)
Current Troops: 522,000
Expended Troops: 492,000
Total Troops: 1,014,000

Anti UIF & Friends (Coalition, Crusader Alliance, Apostates, Barabe, Peacebreakers, KwsN, Guards, SoA, Bro, Kapikulu (in the past), Wolves (in the past))
Current Troops: 400,000
Expended Troops: 492,000
Total Troops: 892,000

Neutral Clans (Quincy  :mrgreen:)
Current Troops: 25,000
Expended Troops: 1,000
Total Troops: 26,000

Obviously there's a load of minor clans missed out but I don't think they make too much difference given how influential the major clan are to this.  I split Wolves and Kapikulu's losses into before and after they switched sides so that the UIF didn't look like they had used more troops than they really had.

The Expended troops are fairly even which is as expected given that it is a 2 sided war and most battles end up close to a 1:1 K:D

The current troops however shows that the UIF is currently far more active especially when you consider that they were far less active in the past.  Pity there's no data from 6 months ago on this to see how much it has changed.

The top 10 individual clans in terms of current tickets + expended tickets are
1) Greys (306,000)
2) Apostates (inc previous Deserter and Merc factions) (255,000)
3) Coalition (247,000)
4) DRZ (198,000)
5) Crusader Alliance (168,000)
6) Wolves (112,000)
7) Shu Han (97,000)
8) Kapikulu (94,000)
9) Conquistador (57,000)
10) Barabe (51,000)

I wish clan renown data was viewable as well as it would be interesting to see renown compared to total tickets.  It would be especially good if renown took each armies equipment into account as then we could probably make a Strat score board.

For example
Renown = Opponents equipment used - Your equipment used
Total Tickets = troops created + tickets received from other clans/players
Score = Renown / Total Tickets

As it stands though the only scoreboard i can create is one that shows expended tickets as a percentage of total tickets.  So based on that here is my Strat 4 current EU clans rankings :D

1) Apostates (73%)
2) We_are_Russians (64%)
3) Grey Order (59%)
=) Barabe (59%)
5) CotgS (55%)
6) DRZ (52%)
=) Crusader Alliance (52%)
=) KwsN (52%)
9) Wolves (50%)
10) Coalition (44%)
11) Peacebreakers (42%)
12) Shu Han (41%)
13) Kapikulu (37%)
14) Balde (33%)
15) Caravan Guild (25%)
16) Conquistador (9%)
=) OdE (9%)
18) Council of Brodania (7%)
19) Quincy (4%)

Congrats to Apostates and We_are_Russians :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Conquisitore on September 08, 2013, 09:37:03 pm
Some stats because I was bored

UIF & Friends (Greys, DRZ, Shu Han, Wolves, Kapikulu, OdE, CotgS, Balde, Kingdom of the Nord, Conquistador, The Ottoman Empire, Rus, Union, The Empire & Brodnics)
Current Troops: 522,000
Expended Troops: 492,000
Total Troops: 1,014,000

Anti UIF & Friends (Coalition, Crusader Alliance, Apostates, Barabe, Peacebreakers, KwsN, Guards, SoA, Bro, Kapikulu (in the past), Wolves (in the past))
Current Troops: 400,000
Expended Troops: 492,000
Total Troops: 892,000

Neutral Clans (Quincy  :mrgreen:)
Current Troops: 25,000
Expended Troops: 1,000
Total Troops: 26,000

Obviously there's a load of minor clans missed out but I don't think they make too much difference given how influential the major clan are to this.  I split Wolves and Kapikulu's losses into before and after they switched sides so that the UIF didn't look like they had used more troops than they really had.

The Expended troops are fairly even which is as expected given that it is a 2 sided war and most battles end up close to a 1:1 K:D

The current troops however shows that the UIF is currently far more active especially when you consider that they were far less active in the past.  Pity there's no data from 6 months ago on this to see how much it has changed.

The top 10 individual clans in terms of current tickets + expended tickets are
1) Greys (306,000)
2) Apostates (inc previous Deserter and Merc factions) (255,000)
3) Coalition (247,000)
4) DRZ (198,000)
5) Crusader Alliance (168,000)
6) Wolves (112,000)
7) Shu Han (97,000)
8) Kapikulu (94,000)
9) Conquistador (57,000)
10) Barabe (51,000)

I wish clan renown data was viewable as well as it would be interesting to see renown compared to total tickets.  It would be especially good if renown took each armies equipment into account as then we could probably make a Strat score board.

For example
Renown = Opponents equipment used - Your equipment used
Total Tickets = troops created + tickets received from other clans/players
Score = Renown / Total Tickets

As it stands though the only scoreboard i can create is one that shows expended tickets as a percentage of total tickets.  So based on that here is my Strat 4 current EU clans rankings :D

1) Apostates (73%)
2) We_are_Russians (64%)
3) Grey Order (59%)
=) Barabe (59%)
5) CotgS (55%)
6) DRZ (52%)
=) Crusader Alliance (52%)
=) KwsN (52%)
9) Wolves (50%)
10) Coalition (44%)
11) Peacebreakers (42%)
12) Shu Han (41%)
13) Kapikulu (37%)
14) Balde (33%)
15) Caravan Guild (25%)
16) Conquistador (9%)
=) OdE (9%)
18) Council of Brodania (7%)
19) Quincy (4%)

Congrats to Apostates and We_are_Russians :D


awesome :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on September 08, 2013, 11:51:35 pm
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: woody on September 09, 2013, 12:45:22 am
Claiming Kudos for winning the last 4 you commanded when defending a wooden castle 8000-6500 or so versus 2400? Are you serious?

As for Mercs not innocent in this? The mercs are easily the worst for abusing players and talking shit. Never thought maybe the reason you got ganged up on was that Mercs have been unpleasant for some time? Even your call for reason is full of insults are you trolling or just irony impaired?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on September 09, 2013, 12:41:30 pm
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on September 09, 2013, 02:39:14 pm
OMG! Mercs brightens self-image  :mrgreen:  Action in right direction, although I was sure that Apostates have good relationship with Coalition and no longer need improve these relations hehe, but now you can see that poor and harmed mercs are so lonely =) Hey, Coalition - let's go and help them - I declare that they are cool guys  :)

And now, quite seriously: community is very ok - I play this game for about 3 years and when it comes to game server (not forum - because it's quite another matter), I don't remember anyone ever was rude to me, or vice versa, I'm also always polite. Vast majority of experienced players have a very healthy attitude to game and other players. Don't create false problems because after sharp exchange of words on this forum when we're in same team, we are fighting together like brothers of arms. High five or hugging between players from enemy clans is nothing surprising - just standard.

Just sometimes we allow ourselves to malicious humor and comments, but this is due to fact that after years of knowing you can afford it without the risk of serious offending other person. Just grab suitable distance and have fun  :)

PS:
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on September 11, 2013, 07:26:26 am
What the fuck just happened at roughly 6am for you guys and midnight for amerifats? Mercs stacked 12k troops in a castle and set night-time to end at 6am, thusly getting flag-capped for a full capture of all those troops and gear? The fuck?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on September 11, 2013, 08:43:48 am
only way the greys can capture a castle, no one cares about strat enough in the mercs to play in a battle at 5 am, i beleive that there should be a global night time for everyone, from about 12 GMT to about 8 GMT, would stop these silly fights occuring, so for the greys doing it in the name of XP.

IF the Greys were a resonable bunch they would offer the castle back to the Mercs with all its troops and let everyone enjoy the Xp that came from it, hell we would even lower garrison so you could attack with reasonable amounts of troops
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: woody on September 11, 2013, 08:55:02 am
I love these if so and so were reasonable.

Last battle mercs skyladdered to top of siege tower to destroy then destroyed sky ladder after itr had been done.
When we were item bombed built the mercs built 5 con sites and would not destroy one to let us build until 20 minutes of complaints. When they were item bombed they expected to be given a con site, and not have their con sites detroyed and got angry when this was ignored.
When we rostered with half due to clicking too late gloated about it, certainly did not offer to refight.
etc etc etc

Self righteous hypocrites who abuse freely and cry like babies if anything goes against them. The battle time was your fault, take responsibility for once. Or spam this thread but it makes no difference, even your allies hold you in contempt and everyone else knows you are a joke.

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bavvoz on September 11, 2013, 09:01:08 am
I wish i could but how much i try i couldnt care less. I guess that dolby situation kinda killed it for me :/
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on September 11, 2013, 09:01:51 am
First of all you guys have been item bombing us at Tehlrog, have we complained? no. And we still kick your ass with crappy weapons.

2nd we asked and you denied and showed how immature and shitty the wolves really is, but we carried on in the battle anyways and nothing was said afterwards.

3rd how is the battle time our fault, i did'nt know that the Mercs attacked heir own castle, my bad.

4th This is no way a QQ thread, i am just stating that if the Greys were reasonable then they would be kind enough to give back the castle and lets have some fun and xp while we are at it?

5th ive never seen Mercs item bomb on purpose or actually sky ladder, back up with facts before accusing and if you can then we sincerely apologise, but UIF and wolves are not clean of this as well

This is my 2 cents, not as a Merc,, but as an individual
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Varadin on September 11, 2013, 09:51:04 am
Its really pointless to fight and argue here guys, we all made mistakes , sometimes greys abused sometimes mercs and other abused , afterall we all watch our own arses

I think We aka Greys should return castle and have some decent fights there ,but that is only my opinion...i guess its up to leaders what they want to do.

Cheers lads
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Segd on September 11, 2013, 10:16:11 am
Best solution for XP:
Greys will return the castle
Mercs will lower the number of their troops in all fiefs to 5k(to prevent this retarded 1/3 attrition) :)

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tactical_One on September 11, 2013, 10:37:46 am
Sad that there was no sieges for castle :( fun waste. If Coalition and mercs wont wake up, they will vanish from map
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on September 11, 2013, 10:50:56 am
Best solution for XP:
Greys will return the castle
Mercs will lower the number of their troops in all fiefs to 5k(to prevent this retarded 1/3 attrition) :)

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I would agree to this 5k troops in all fiefs.

Only problem is getting the Greys/Wolves to agree.

@Woody we only cry like babies because of our sexy Lord Crymoar and it's true, he's Mad Coz Welsh
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on September 11, 2013, 10:51:40 am
Yes... I know you don't care (cough*) but I hope that this painful lesson will remind you of how to set the night time. It is almost inconceivable that such experienced player did it by accident. This time cunning trick turned against you. QQ moar  :twisted:

I want to see how Pussy lowers garrison in Dihrim. Show me! SHOW ME! SHOW ME!


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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Jacu on September 11, 2013, 11:49:32 am
only way the greys can capture a castle, no one cares about strat enough in the mercs to play in a battle at 5 am, i beleive that there should be a global night time for everyone, from about 12 GMT to about 8 GMT, would stop these silly fights occuring, so for the greys doing it in the name of XP.

IF the Greys were a resonable bunch they would offer the castle back to the Mercs with all its troops and let everyone enjoy the Xp that came from it, hell we would even lower garrison so you could attack with reasonable amounts of troops

do you know what is the best? xD
we attacked at 22. it is not our fault you have shity night time xD but ofc "greys can only win this way" xD it is your game, your rules

I only wait for a day when this rule about 1/3 of garrison (only because of this you are still on this map) will kill you xD  I greet^^
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Flans on September 11, 2013, 12:22:38 pm
I would agree to this 5k troops in all fiefs.

Only problem is getting the Greys/Wolves to agree.

@Woody we only cry like babies because of our sexy Lord Crymoar and it's true, he's Mad Coz Welsh


It would be greatly appreciated if you did some information gathering before debasing peoples opinions with random fabrications.

http://forum.melee.org/strategus-general-discussion/decreasing-fief's-army-for-attacks-the-battles-conclave-(open)/
as it clearly shows on front page, we are party to this agreement, and have been for a long time now.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Mendro on September 11, 2013, 01:16:27 pm
I don't understand how strat can be so important for people. People apply for strat only for xp. 99% of crpg players don't care anymore about factions/wars/diplomacy and others shit.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Fartface on September 11, 2013, 02:05:58 pm
I play strat because it's realy fun with the teamwork and the constructions , instead of just the normal eu1 derp charge.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on September 11, 2013, 02:33:43 pm
only way the greys can capture a castle, no one cares about strat enough in the mercs to play in a battle at 5 am, i beleive that there should be a global night time for everyone, from about 12 GMT to about 8 GMT, would stop these silly fights occuring, so for the greys doing it in the name of XP.

IF the Greys were a resonable bunch they would offer the castle back to the Mercs with all its troops and let everyone enjoy the Xp that came from it, hell we would even lower garrison so you could attack with reasonable amounts of troops

Retarded night time Strudog. Blame Tuetensuppe. You can't see one anothers night time when they are in a fief and I seriously doubt people expect someone having a night time at 22:00.

If you guys were a resonable bunch you would lower the garrisons so we can get some battles. Instead you force them to attack with 3k troops. :?

First of all you guys have been item bombing us at Tehlrog, have we complained? no. And we still kick your ass with crappy weapons.

Not true. That's the loot you get after the battles. Again, blame your fief owner. I remember Wolves had the exact same thing when you guys sieged Slezkh Castle.

Crappy Lords are crappy.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tomas on September 11, 2013, 03:09:37 pm
Got to side with Greys on this one  :cry: :shock:

If Tueten sets his nighttime like that then it was his decision to have a battle at that time over 22:00, not Greys.

It is still a loss of fun and XP though.  Even when the Anti-UIF was actively on the offensive and the UIF not so active, there was still never this level of inactivity meaning people were never robbed of fun battles or XP by cheap victories.  Perhaps the UIF is just too competent for this kind of thing or I'm forgetting some battles (not looked any up) but the list of shitty Strat fucks ups does seem to benefit the UIF a lot.  Yalen, Ismirala Castle, Derchios Castle, various CA villages in the Desert.

I'm not saying that the UIF need to or even should do anything about this.  It just might be nice to keep the XP flowing instead of taking advantage of others inactivity/incompetence.  Build up some good Karma and all that  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tuetensuppe on September 11, 2013, 04:01:44 pm
yes, my fault...wanted to change the night time back to normal at the point i saw greys incomming, but i wasnt online the last 56h, only slept 7h in that time cause of night shift and a tragic occurrence in my family...atm im raging about myself mostly, cause i wanted allways some nice exp for both sides...i know excuses dont count in the internet...

my fault and shame on me, discussion can be stopped now...
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on September 11, 2013, 04:43:19 pm
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Wisdom.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Falka on September 12, 2013, 08:14:30 pm
Even when the Anti-UIF was actively on the offensive and the UIF not so active, there was still never this level of inactivity meaning people were never robbed of fun battles or XP by cheap victories.

The explanation is very simple, UIF was "inactive" and anti UIF is inactive. When owners of fiefs can't be arsed to manage the gear in castles or make a roll call before battle you can not expect nothing more than what you see currently. But the most important problem is fucked up roster. I remember one of Senuzgdas sieges, friday evening, Eu prime time, and apostates barely managed to gather 50 ppl in TS, including at least 5 guys between 17 and 21 lvl, no clue how many below lvl 30. GO is very competent clan in strat, there's no doubt about it, but even the best organisation wouldn't help apostates if they can not get proper roster. Would be funny to see the difference in average lvl between GO and mercs side.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Eddy on September 12, 2013, 08:29:53 pm
Hetman is (moustly) only accepting people over lvl 31 if he doesnt knows them, so i bet the average lvl would be 31/32 or something like that.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Flans on September 12, 2013, 08:42:44 pm
Well this last battle where i took the castle my whole roster was over 30+ with only wolves being lower. Also i had maybe 150+ people applying and 60+ on ts . so no mod is not dead.
The Murcs pissed off too many ppl, the Coalition and Temps are not inactive, theyre here, they just don't wanna help Apostates.

maybe next fight I'll sign up for you guys and get some ppl to join too to help them out cuz their ends not getting any love cuz of the way they handle their affairs.

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: DaveUKR on September 12, 2013, 08:46:02 pm
Well this last battle where i took the castle my whole roster was over 30+ with only wolves being lower. Also i had maybe 150+ people applying and 60+ on ts . so no mod is not dead.
The Murcs pissed off too many ppl, the Coalition and Temps are not inactive, theyre here, they just don't wanna help Apostates.

maybe next fight I'll sign up for you guys and get some ppl to join too to help them out cuz their ends not getting any love cuz of the way they handle their affairs.

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60+ on ts? Lol, in fact 51 had to be there, so it's nothing. Trust me strat is dead, I had times with 100+ people in ts waiting for a slot. And we even managed to make full EU rosters during day or even morning.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Falka on September 12, 2013, 08:58:42 pm
Temps are not inactive
Heh, yeah, they're not inactive, they're dead. Templars dont fight even in their own battles, not to mention they dont manage gear in their fiefs and can not get full roster.

maybe next fight I'll sign up for you guys

Dear god... I hope they wont accept a prick like you in their roster.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: DaveUKR on September 12, 2013, 08:59:15 pm
Once Apostates are wiped i'm sure people will cook up new drama. If Druzhina, Greys and Wolves are the only factions interested in conflict atm then i'm sure over time they'll either attack each other for lolz

Trust me, it will never happen. You're probably new in Strat. It's not about Apostates being dead. We always had a lot of players from all the factions applying for us, even enemies. And it was always like that until last months.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: serr on September 12, 2013, 09:01:13 pm
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60+ on ts? Lol, in fact 51 had to be there, so it's nothing. Trust me strat is dead, I had times with 100+ people in ts waiting for a slot. And we even managed to make full EU rosters during day or even morning.

Well, neither 100 players in ts nor night/morning battles are good, I'd say there are enough players playing strat atm to make it interesting.
There are other problems that make it boring - totally imbalanced sides(ofc if Apostates, Coalition and Crusaders kept playing actively there would be some interesting wars, but we deal with facts here and the fact is that strat slogan for most eastern factions is "Who cares about strat" :( ), still stupid night time system while it would be much better to set prime time instead, nearly unlimited resources(probably some players enjoy when you can buy plate armor for all troops but for me fights with medium armor are much more interesting).

However in main I agree with you: strat need some love from devs or it will die rather sooner than later. And this love should be directed to game mechanic, not visual representation which is already very nice.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on September 12, 2013, 09:25:51 pm
No. Just losers like always =) Strat is about teamwork, not about movie stars  :wink:  Please QQ MOAR - I can watching for hours at your tearful eyes - much better than TV  :lol:  but about one thing, I agree completely - strat need some love from devs or it will die rather sooner than later  :!:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Perverz on September 12, 2013, 09:34:06 pm
but for me fights with medium armor are much more interesting

exactly
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tomas on September 12, 2013, 09:39:08 pm
People don't sign up for the Apostates because they know the gear will be bugged and nobody will be leading.  Its not because people don't want to fight for Apostates, but they at least want to fight in a battle which will be fun.

To help with this some things need doing by the devs and they are
1) 1/3 rule fix
2) Ability to destroy equipment (not goods) on the spot even when waiting for a battle after the reinforcement window is over.
3) smaller rosters (i'd like this in general but at the very least roster sizes for battles under 1000 troops need to be scaled down)
4) Remote management of fiefs (possibly limited to just the destruction of gear - see #2)
5) Rank 10 players being able to manage all faction fiefs and change ownership if needed (perhaps at a cost though)
6) Ability for clans to set a clan nighttime that replaces personal nighttimes
7) Introduction of server primetimes that override clan or personal nighttimes
8) Link XP to gear value used per side and not overall gear value used per battle to reward players fighting for the underdog.


Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: serr on September 12, 2013, 09:42:16 pm
1...8

YES!!!! We need all of those! NOW!
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Guray on September 13, 2013, 05:11:16 pm
lol  :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: woody on September 13, 2013, 05:11:53 pm
Strat is dead etc etc.

Most of us are quite surprised how long its taken for Mercs to come up with the "Strat is dead, we dont care anyway, we never wanted to win etc etc"

Correct it to Apostates are dead, yep you have nearly all quit after 2 months of having your arses fed to you. Frankly I dont blame you.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on September 13, 2013, 05:22:30 pm
Strat is dead etc etc.

Most of us are quite surprised how long its taken for Mercs to come up with the "Strat is dead, we dont care anyway, we never wanted to win etc etc"

Correct it to Apostates are dead, yep you have nearly all quit after 2 months of having your arses fed to you. Frankly I dont blame you.

your the reason why strat isn't fun
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on September 13, 2013, 05:33:16 pm
42 pages and my conclusion, Flans is the only asshole here.

>inb4 something i can't predict.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on September 13, 2013, 06:28:02 pm
42 pages and my conclusion, Flans is the only asshole here.

>inb4 something i can't predict.

What about me? I go undercover for a couple of weeks and you forget all my insults? Insulting behaviour on your part, I feel insulted
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on September 13, 2013, 06:30:04 pm
your the reason why strat isn't fun

.....for mercs

Yes, because if it werent for us, you would still be a clan
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on September 13, 2013, 07:21:46 pm
.....for mercs

Yes, because if it werent for us, you would still be a clan

We are still a clan, probably the most active in the battle servers, its just we have got bored of fighting 10enemies in strat :(
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on September 13, 2013, 07:32:01 pm
What about me? I go undercover for a couple of weeks and you forget all my insults? Insulting behaviour on your part, I feel insulted


wat
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: YnScN on September 13, 2013, 07:33:02 pm
We are still a clan, probably the most active in the battle servers, its just we have got bored of fighting raped by 10enemies in strat :(
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on September 13, 2013, 08:04:22 pm

go home YMCA  ur drunk :p
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Nintendo on September 13, 2013, 08:06:41 pm
 :!:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Haboe on September 13, 2013, 08:10:47 pm
Ignore the nintendo post, thats me (kept my old forumaccount when Harald moved my account when i lost my old one a few months back, had to buy this new key)


Well, there were a few mercs that cared (bothered to play/ had fun doing it) about strat, including me.

Real life called me, I recently started a business of my own and lately its getting really good for me there, so it consumes too much time for me to participate on strat. (the few hours a week i manage to play games i play more casual games like... minecraft, smite, total war or some shooter like crysis3).

There might still be some mercs and deserters that care for strat, but if there are too few others to play it with them they won't be able to handle being outnumbered in activity.

It's a shame, but well... Shit happens.

I'm not resigning from strat though, i'll be back when time allows me to once again create shenanigans here  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Kalam on September 13, 2013, 08:24:01 pm
Please keep the thread on topic.

Review Diplomacy Forum Rules (http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/important-diplomacy-forum-rules/).

Thank you.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Flans on September 13, 2013, 10:40:27 pm
Please keep the thread on topic.

Review Diplomacy Forum Rules (http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/important-diplomacy-forum-rules/).

Thank you.

dude... we've only just started the heart to hearts :\ we care about each other here so turned this war thread into a social project :)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on September 13, 2013, 11:49:08 pm
Ignore the nintendo post, thats me (kept my old forumaccount when Harald moved my account when i lost my old one a few months back, had to buy this new key)


Well, there were a few mercs that cared (bothered to play/ had fun doing it) about strat, including me.

Real life called me, I recently started a business of my own and lately its getting really good for me there, so it consumes too much time for me to participate on strat. (the few hours a week i manage to play games i play more casual games like... minecraft, smite, total war or some shooter like crysis3).

There might still be some mercs and deserters that care for strat, but if there are too few others to play it with them they won't be able to handle being outnumbered in activity.

It's a shame, but well... Shit happens.

I'm not resigning from strat though, i'll be back when time allows me to once again create shenanigans here  :mrgreen:


Wow, sounds amazing. Good luck with that Haboe, good to see that someone escaped cRPG.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Silicium on September 14, 2013, 12:09:52 am
.....for mercs

Yes, because if it werent for us, you would still be a clan
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: DaveUKR on September 14, 2013, 08:39:10 am
.....for mercs

Yes, because if it werent for us, you would still be a clan

Funny thing is that there is actually completely opposite situation. When Mercs attacked Wolves - you stopped existing. And I explain why: Wolves without Kinngrimm are not Wolves. I don't want to underestimate you, but it's the bitter truth. Join the battle server and you'll understand that having fiefs in Strategus and being a solid clan has nothing common. If it wasn't so - we'd see groups of Wolves topping scoreboards instead of a couple scratching the bottom.

Mercs have faced so many difficulties in their history that you can't even imagine. Yet we still exist and improve. And you can't do anything with that. Haters gonna hate.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on September 14, 2013, 09:30:50 am
I was referring to strat, I dont care much for battle/siege servers. Your clan is gone from strat, I know you have great players roaming the battle/siegeservers.

Looking back on what the Wolves has accomplished since Kinngrimm left, I would say they are doing quite ok wouldnt you say?

I do not hate you, strat is a strategy game, you lost it. Its like a game of chess really, hate isnt really an ingredient, trashtalk is fun though :)

You will be back for next strat
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on September 14, 2013, 10:00:05 am
Chess is nothing like Strat, you have to have at least half a brain to play Chess  :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on September 14, 2013, 01:24:30 pm
Chess is nothing like Strat, you have to have at least half a brain to play Chess  :lol:
You saying this might explain your current situation in strat  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on September 14, 2013, 02:12:04 pm
You saying this might explain your current situation in strat  :mrgreen:

Kick a man while he's down :( Meanie
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on September 14, 2013, 02:46:33 pm
Kick a man while he's down :( Meanie

I apologize strudog, totally uncalled for  :oops:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Guray on September 14, 2013, 03:50:01 pm
Chess is nothing like Strat, you have to have at least half a brain to play Chess  :lol:
so you guys dont have it
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on September 14, 2013, 05:02:29 pm
so you guys dont have it

So it took you almost 6 hours to come up with what Grandmom said? Krap..... i cant say it
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Guray on September 14, 2013, 05:23:47 pm
So it took you almost 6 hours to come up with what Grandmom said? Krap..... i cant say it
ahaha i didnt even look what grandmom said  :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on September 14, 2013, 05:45:33 pm
or
Or
OR

You have never played chess yourself.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on September 14, 2013, 07:22:48 pm
Chess makes me cry

Those poor pawns give their lives so the those higher in the hierarchy have a better chance for survival :'(
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Osiris on September 14, 2013, 07:25:26 pm
but a brave pawn can become a mighty queen!
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Guray on September 14, 2013, 07:28:05 pm
Chess makes me cry

Those poor pawns give their lives so the those higher in the hierarchy have a better chance for survival :'(
like this
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on September 14, 2013, 07:37:07 pm
ahaha i didnt even look what grandmom said  :lol:

This is true, Guray never listens to me, he never has  :)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Fips on September 14, 2013, 07:37:17 pm
Please keep the thread on topic.

Review Diplomacy Forum Rules (http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/important-diplomacy-forum-rules/).

Thank you.

If you don't want this thread to be closed again and this time forever, you might want to stick to what Kalam told you.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: YnScN on September 14, 2013, 08:12:07 pm
Please keep the thread on topic.

Review Diplomacy Forum Rules (http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/important-diplomacy-forum-rules/).

Thank you.

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on September 14, 2013, 08:27:34 pm
If you don't want this thread to be closed again and this time forever, you might want to stick to what Kalam told you.

QQ
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Guray on September 14, 2013, 09:42:34 pm
nice battle  http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=5128    :rolleyes:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Ncromancien on September 14, 2013, 09:47:46 pm
nice battle  http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=5128    :rolleyes:

Not sure it was Apostates though  :rolleyes: * Cough *
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Segd on September 14, 2013, 09:50:20 pm
nice battle  http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=5128    :rolleyes:
Yep, we got 12k fully equiped bonus troops for free & 3kk gold + 10k horses to transport all loot :)

Also we had only 70 armors left when we took flags & there was still 40 min left. Miracle I say  :wink:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on September 14, 2013, 09:54:37 pm
Probably the best battle this far.

Did they increase the time limit btw?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Rebelyell on September 14, 2013, 10:35:58 pm
nice battle  http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=5128    :rolleyes:
your avatar really describes you but after all your IQ let you notice that is was CA battle right?
or maybe you haven't noticed that during that battle we lost 30%-50% due some lag so you just start spawn rape

but we could defended that somehow if not retarded dubled respawn time after  rejoin

that nothing to show how disappointed one of our members was after we told him why we lost eq worth of he is 7 months of hes work

he done that just to provide exp and fun for us
but in that very first battle when he could not participate in that because he was in work

we did not brought that to the forum to start another drama qq fest
to be honest we hardly ever started any topic about our victories here
and we had many of them

but when person like you bring that shiet here under hood of competition
juts to drop hes tini e penn on the tabe and show how cool is he in not hes battle
in battle when he was accepted and had only to obey orders

yes i am mad
you are moron
over
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on September 14, 2013, 10:50:38 pm

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Wolves_Odysseus aka Flans i do hope you are enjoying '-' all my posts, i find it rather.....entertaining
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bagge on September 14, 2013, 10:58:45 pm
your avatar really describes you but after all your IQ let you notice that is was CA battle right?
or maybe you haven't noticed that during that battle we lost 30%-50% due some lag so you just start spawn rape

All these excuses. After every single battle we hear the same shit over and over again.

Get fucked noobs.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Rebelyell on September 14, 2013, 10:59:37 pm

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no
strat is something way worse
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Segd on September 14, 2013, 11:16:14 pm
Probably the best battle this far.

Did they increase the time limit btw?
Yep, 2h or something(for 4.5k troops) Thats why we were short on equip(had for 1.9k troops)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Osiris on September 15, 2013, 12:11:46 am
How to save strat?


we are now going to have a total solution to the UIF Question.  The programme is clear.  It reads: total separation, total segregation!  What does this mean?  It does not only mean the total exclusion of the Greys from the Druzinha  It means much more!  No Merc can be expected to live under the same roof as Greys. The UIF must be chased out of our Strat and our battle server and made to live in Eu4 or Eu2 where they can keep to themselves and come into contact with Mercs as little as possible.  They must be clearly identified....  And when we compel the rich Greys to provide for the `poor' of their race (wolves), which will certainly be necessary, they will all sink together into a pit of cheating.  As this happens, we will be faced with the harsh necessity of eradicating the Greys, just as we root out criminals from our own orderly state: with fire and sword.  The result will be the certain and absolute end of UIF in Strat; its complete annihilation.


I hope to see the very concept of UIFery completely obliterated.

By now it is clear that [the conflict between Apostates and the UIF  has … gradually assumed the characteristics of a struggle that can only be compared to the greatest historical events of the past. The pitiless and merciless war that has been forced upon us by external UIFery will lay the entire strat in ruins unless the forces of UIF destruction can be stopped before reaching Coalitions borders. [Should they break through], the worst consequences would be not burned cities and wrecked cultural monuments but the bestial massacres of masses of human beings comparable to those that followed the invasions of the Huns and Mongols out of inner Asia.


Anyone can deal with victory. Only the mighty can bear defeat.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Flans on September 15, 2013, 12:27:50 am
Sounds a lot like the propaganda H-itler was spewing down to the last moments when the Russian tanks were rolling in over his head.


Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on September 15, 2013, 12:58:10 am
How to save strat?


we are now going to have a total solution to the UIF Question.  The programme is clear.  It reads: total separation, total segregation!  What does this mean?  It does not only mean the total exclusion of the Greys from the Druzinha  It means much more!  No Merc can be expected to live under the same roof as Greys. The UIF must be chased out of our Strat and our battle server and made to live in Eu4 or Eu2 where they can keep to themselves and come into contact with Mercs as little as possible.  They must be clearly identified....  And when we compel the rich Greys to provide for the `poor' of their race (wolves), which will certainly be necessary, they will all sink together into a pit of cheating.  As this happens, we will be faced with the harsh necessity of eradicating the Greys, just as we root out criminals from our own orderly state: with fire and sword.  The result will be the certain and absolute end of UIF in Strat; its complete annihilation.


I hope to see the very concept of UIFery completely obliterated.

By now it is clear that [the conflict between Apostates and the UIF  has … gradually assumed the characteristics of a struggle that can only be compared to the greatest historical events of the past. The pitiless and merciless war that has been forced upon us by external UIFery will lay the entire strat in ruins unless the forces of UIF destruction can be stopped before reaching Coalitions borders. [Should they break through], the worst consequences would be not burned cities and wrecked cultural monuments but the bestial massacres of masses of human beings comparable to those that followed the invasions of the Huns and Mongols out of inner Asia.


Anyone can deal with victory. Only the mighty can bear defeat.

You are drunk. Go home.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on September 15, 2013, 01:03:42 am
You are drunk. Go home.  :rolleyes:

No you
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Hoppster on September 15, 2013, 02:50:06 am
Yep, 2h or something(for 4.5k troops) Thats why we were short on equip(had for 1.9k troops)

how can u possibly be short of equipment with everything u have taken u greedy fucks
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Knitler on September 15, 2013, 03:14:06 am
how can u possibly be short of equipment with everything u have taken u greedy fucks

You cant be serious?

They attacked with +4k , they had equipment for like 1900, they lost 1845, they had like 40equipped tickets left for another 40minutes ... Where i know that from? First hand.
It would not have been worth it having all the tickets equipped cause of that fucked 1/3rule.

Try that link; http://forum.melee.org/strategus-general-discussion/decreasing-fief%27s-army-for-attacks-the-battles-conclave-%28open%29/ (http://forum.melee.org/strategus-general-discussion/decreasing-fief%27s-army-for-attacks-the-battles-conclave-%28open%29/)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Hoppster on September 15, 2013, 03:18:33 am
and i know first hand there was 12000 +3 weapons, and 6000 +3 armour in my village when they took it...
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Knitler on September 15, 2013, 03:21:30 am
and i know first hand there was 12000 +3 weapons, and 6000 +3 armour in my village when they took it...

And? They´re ours now, same for the tickets. Its doesnt has to do anything with the other.

The battle lasts for normal 90minutes?, now it was 2x60fully minutes? Drz thought it would still be the normal way and just equipped the normal amount of tickets when attacking.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Hoppster on September 15, 2013, 03:22:09 am
enjoy them yea
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on September 15, 2013, 09:28:41 am
And? They´re ours now, same for the tickets. Its doesnt has to do anything with the other.

The battle lasts for normal 90minutes?, now it was 2x60fully minutes? Drz thought it would still be the normal way and just equipped the normal amount of tickets when attacking.

Its pathetic how quickly you have let Harpag and Hetman violate your ass. You sir are the scum of c-rpg
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Segd on September 15, 2013, 01:32:01 pm
The battle lasts for normal 90minutes?, now it was 2x60fully minutes? Drz thought it would still be the normal way and just equipped the normal amount of tickets when attacking.
This. When we will be taking their next castle, we will take more equip of course. This time we had like 800 plate, which end pretty fast.

and i know first hand there was 12000 +3 weapons, and 6000 +3 armour in my village when they took it...
We took more yesterday, we would take all at the end  8-)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on September 15, 2013, 02:00:13 pm
CAn we please keep this thread on track, it should be about how much the Apostates suck
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Guray on September 15, 2013, 03:36:40 pm

yes i am mad

over
:lol: :lol: you are really mad dude
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juts to drop hes tini e penn on the tabe and show how cool is he in not hes battle
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on September 15, 2013, 04:06:46 pm
When did castles start getting flag capd?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on September 15, 2013, 04:14:48 pm
Its pathetic how quickly you have let Harpag and Hetman violate your ass. You sir are the scum of c-rpg

Strudog, stop eating feed for dogs. Although packaging has no warnings, but side effect is barking  :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Rebelyell on September 16, 2013, 12:52:32 am
:lol: :lol: you are really mad dude
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:P
i mean  :evil:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Cicero on September 16, 2013, 01:37:31 pm
:P
i mean  :evil:

Its their first time to enjoy the feeling "victory" for kapikulus ; dont fuckin interrupt it.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Guray on September 16, 2013, 02:22:57 pm
Its their first time to enjoy the feeling "victory" for kapikulus ; dont fuckin interrupt it.
8-)
Listen that guy
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Ozan on September 16, 2013, 03:03:23 pm
Its their first time to enjoy the feeling "victory" for kapikulus ; dont fuckin interrupt it.


Bi zamanlar türklerin %70 ni kontrol ediyorum diyordun,şimdi % kaçını kontrolediyorsun hormonlu çiçi ;)  Şimdi ikile  taş arabası.Oto boka msj atma kendini hatırlatmak için.sen çok unutuldun ;)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Segd on September 16, 2013, 03:17:28 pm
Its their first time to enjoy the feeling "victory" for kapikulus ; dont fuckin interrupt it.
Because they are hanging out with the right guys now, Cicero  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Heibai on September 16, 2013, 03:21:33 pm

Bi zamanlar türklerin %70 ni kontrol ediyorum diyordun,şimdi % kaçını kontrolediyorsun hormonlu çiçi ;)  Şimdi ikile  taş arabası.Oto boka msj atma kendini hatırlatmak için.sen çok unutuldun ;)

This is some sort of a combo breaker...

Btw great to see that UIF attacked a Coalition fief now :)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on September 16, 2013, 03:23:03 pm
Its their first time to enjoy the feeling "victory" for kapikulus ; dont fuckin interrupt it.
Hmm I seem to recall you saying to Gnjus that his clan is the only one to ever have been wiped by Kapikulu as an insult... odd... I must be thinking of some other extremely retarded Turkling...
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Segd on September 16, 2013, 03:37:22 pm
Btw great to see that UIF attacked a Coalition fief now :)
Just a little reconquista  :wink:
Almost a year passed since we defended it from the first massive Eastern block attack.
http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=545

Too bad for Anti-Uif that it was the only one attack even if they brought more than 10k troops to drz desert. We thought what we would be raped back then.  :?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Cicero on September 16, 2013, 04:01:11 pm

Bi zamanlar türklerin %70 ni kontrol ediyorum diyordun,şimdi % kaçını kontrolediyorsun hormonlu çiçi ;)  Şimdi ikile  taş arabası.Oto boka msj atma kendini hatırlatmak için.sen çok unutuldun ;)

Kepçe ; isteseydim hala ederdim daha hayat falan var hani senin o gülüşünle ömründe tanışma gibi bir ihtimalin olmayan insan çeşitleri var =)

Unutmak istesen bile unutamazsın hala adamlarına beni anlatıyorsun ki tek lafımla 2 kişi cevap yazabiliyor =)


Senin yaşına hiç bir zaman inanmadım da ikile taş arabası ne ak.
Because they are hanging out with the right guys now, Cicero  :rolleyes:

Turks dont know english
Russians dont know english
Polish dont know english

I am bored of that actually =)

I gives 0 fuck about all of this anyway.But still even i give 1 reply i can get all the fakin attention ladies =)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Ozan on September 16, 2013, 04:38:36 pm
Kepçe ; isteseydim hala ederdim daha hayat falan var hani senin o gülüşünle ömründe tanışma gibi bir ihtimalin olmayan insan çeşitleri var =)

Unutmak istesen bile unutamazsın hala adamlarına beni anlatıyorsun ki tek lafımla 2 kişi cevap yazabiliyor =)


Senin yaşına hiç bir zaman inanmadım da ikile taş arabası ne ak.
Turks dont know english
Russians dont know english
Polish dont know english

I am bored of that actually =)

I gives 0 fuck about all of this anyway.But still even i give 1 reply i can get all the fakin attention ladies =)



I think u need to work a little more for to learn english grammar !!!


Turks dont know english !!!  ı think ıt must be like that ' Turks does not speak english' or 'Turks do not understand english' ...
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Strudog on September 16, 2013, 04:45:55 pm


I think u need to work a little more for to learn english grammar !!!


Turks dont know english !!!  ı think ıt must be like that ' Turks does not speak english' or 'Turks do not understand english' ...

No one cares, Keep the thread on track pls
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Erasmas on September 16, 2013, 07:56:15 pm
It's good to see u back Cicero, and in good shape too  :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Fartface on September 16, 2013, 09:09:00 pm
No one cares, Keep the thread on track pls
You realy think it would've been 46 pages long if it was kept on track all the time? After all I think the information given from the OP has nothing to add to it realy.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Cicero on September 16, 2013, 10:15:44 pm
It's good to see u back Cicero, and in good shape too  :D

I can't imagine erasmas's gentleman english accent like a true english for 5-6 generations to talk with kapikulu hodor.



I think u need to work a little more for to learn english grammar !!!


Turks dont know english !!!  ı think ıt must be like that ' Turks does not speak english' or 'Turks do not understand english' ...

Like i pity on nocti to forced to talk with you for a game ; i pity on my old friends =)

I cant even describe how stupid you are with one word.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Gurnisson on September 16, 2013, 11:02:51 pm
I can't believe you're on the other side, Cicero. It makes me sad :(
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Cicero on September 16, 2013, 11:23:32 pm
I can't believe you're on the other side, Cicero. It makes me sad :(
The fact is i dont have any side ; i dont defend anyside or fight for any side.

I am just here to mock with kapikulus and have fun =)

I still miss old good times ; han hanich , 3ABP , sharky , thovex.

Best strategus was 2rd one which we made biggest battles of all the times against Shogunate&Pillagers rest was nothing.

This game has come to an end ; noone care about micro management or anyother shit ; cant you see it ? There arent any sides ;noone care about it ; people fighting for xp.We never fought for xp , we were there to show something as a team and accomplishe an organization.

There were leaders ; now its just bunch of nerds who dont have anyshit to do about it because all the great leaders bored =)

I can call ;

Sharky the great dictator

Han Hanich the terrible

3ABP the second hand

Thovex the child king

Noctivagant the lannister

Harpag the king of north

Vovka the silentkiller ( i talked with vovka after we were in UIF for 3 months )

Nebun master of diplomatics

Alpha the poor one

Gnjus the boss

Okin the neutral ( or did anyone even care his decision ? =) )

Kinngrimm the backstabber

...._pillager ( cant remember his name but he was russian bashibazouk )

Ujin the samurai

Smoothrich the USA

Loki the bad

Rogue the reich

We left to let kids have some fun.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: YnScN on September 16, 2013, 11:27:36 pm
I can't imagine erasmas's gentleman english accent like a true english for 5-6 generations to talk with kapikulu hodor.

Like i pity on nocti to forced to talk with you for a game ; i pity on my old friends =)

I cant even describe how stupid you are with one word.

Cicero's thread reply algorithm:

1) He has nothing to say or has nothing to contribute on topic ----> blame/insult/pin up kapikulu
2) He cant blame/insult/pin up kapikulu ----> insult their english skills
3) Their english was ok ----> go berserk and shit from own mouth, say pointless words connected to each other

Proofs:
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Thovex on September 16, 2013, 11:31:20 pm
Hmm who was that pillager again.

Sir Bertran?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Zaalback on September 16, 2013, 11:39:46 pm
Just a little reconquista  :wink:

RUconquista ;)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on September 17, 2013, 02:10:47 am
Noctivagant the lannister

Pfff... if Lannister will be wiped from Westeros, I'll be pissed at you for spoiling me reading  :twisted:  ...and I can't agree with final conclusion cos my successor is much better than I was, but never mind, good to see you  :)  Come to talk on TS, my pidgin english is lot better than during second strat and no one will force you to sit on Kapikulu channel  :mrgreen:

Cicero the flash in the pan  :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Cicero on September 17, 2013, 10:53:45 am
Pfff... if Lannister will be wiped from Westeros, I'll be pissed at you for spoiling me reading  :twisted:  ...and I can't agree with final conclusion cos my successor is much better than I was, but never mind, good to see you  :)  Come to talk on TS, my pidgin english is lot better than during second strat and no one will force you to sit on Kapikulu channel  :mrgreen:

Cicero the flash in the pan  :P

Talking to harpag in english at second strategus is way harder than losing to a kapikulu.

"Guys , okey  ; i hmmmm"

Harpag noone care about wiping please understand that =)

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: BASNAK on September 17, 2013, 04:43:03 pm
Cicero is back in diplomacy section. Now all we need is Gingerpussy unbanned from the forums to make Diplomacy legendarily funny again.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on September 17, 2013, 05:09:10 pm
@Cicero -  Please understand that your ego is so huge, that you're not able to see all those minions who (like me) care about wiping  :mrgreen:  Old good Cicero  :)  I like you  :)

@BASNAK +101

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FREE PUSSY  :!:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Cicero on September 17, 2013, 06:55:43 pm
@Cicero -  Please understand that your ego is so huge, that you're not able to see all those minions who (like me) care about wiping  :mrgreen:  Old good Cicero  :)  I like you  :)


I have huge ego thats true and even i dont care about losing winning anymore
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Osiris on September 17, 2013, 09:14:26 pm
Turks go home   

(home http://forum.melee.org/tarkae-forum/)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on September 17, 2013, 09:33:02 pm
people should stop arguing cuz strat is pretty much dead
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Thovex on September 17, 2013, 10:32:02 pm
people should stop arguing cuz strat is pretty much dead

So we need more arguing and not less?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tuetensuppe on September 17, 2013, 11:22:40 pm
So we need more arguing and not less?

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Tactical_One on September 18, 2013, 01:18:49 pm
people should stop arguing cuz strat is pretty much dead

Actually there are plenty of great battles with level is very high.  I think the final confrontation will be drz/Go/wolf/capikulu/kalmar vs Coalition, supported by apostates, crusaders and barabe.  Actually only coalition can fill roster full of reasonable players and deliver good level of commanding.

Definetly more active players are in UIf front they have more good commanders (Hetman, Overlord, Vovka) and more good strat players. So smaller weaker factions fall terribly to that power.

But hey :) its a lot of fun

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on September 18, 2013, 01:42:12 pm
You realy think it would've been 46 pages long if it was kept on track all the time? After all I think the information given from the OP has nothing to add to it realy.


Yeah i mean dafuq. I made the topic to post a movie quote, ends up with 14k views and Cicero being kewl as usual.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Cicero on September 18, 2013, 01:50:10 pm

Yeah i mean dafuq. I made the topic to post a movie quote, ends up with 14k views and Cicero being kewl as usual.

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"stupid moron"

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on September 18, 2013, 05:54:32 pm
lol, that's perfect. ALTOUGH, kewl is only said by kewl people. So the dictionary is WRONG.



The question is who are you? I'm a legend in this community, right guys? Guys? Let my 100 unarmed men haunt you until the end.

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on September 18, 2013, 08:29:53 pm
His name is Miracle, he's more of a tragedy though.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bittersteel on September 18, 2013, 09:04:33 pm
I know, i'm sad.  :cry:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: woody on September 19, 2013, 12:32:35 am
Strategus is highly active at the moment - 43000 troops lost in battles in last week and thats the ones actually killed. Apostates are dead but that was the aim.

War on Crusaders in the South, mopping up of Apostate remnants in North then war on coalition. Apostates dead does not equal strat dead.

Close this thread someone - why have a diplomacy thread for a dead strat faction?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on September 19, 2013, 08:56:59 am

Close this thread someone - why have a diplomacy thread for a dead strat faction?

Agree, this isnt a war anymore, close it

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Vovka on September 19, 2013, 09:26:46 am
Agree, this isnt a war anymore, close it
At least they had topic about war on them XD Crusader alliance not deserv even few words on forum  about dat "war" in desert :lol:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Rogue on September 19, 2013, 01:19:43 pm
Just a little reconquista  :wink:
Almost a year passed since we defended it from the first massive Eastern block attack.
http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=545

Too bad for Anti-Uif that it was the only one attack even if they brought more than 10k troops to drz desert. We thought what we would be raped back then.  :?

Actually the attacking force consisted of:  2500 Coalition, 2000 Crusader Alliance, 700 Stromgarde (lightly armed) and 700 Guards. We called it Operation гром, sadly it fell way short of its name. Considering how many DRZ, GO and even Bashi troops we saw, retreat was the only sensible option. From our perspective it looked like we ran into preparations for a UIF offensive. If this was correct or not I don't know, but not much later UIF launched a large offensivs vs the Crusader Alliance invlving: DRZ, GO, Union and Bashis. Which was, albeit larger, overall pretty unsuccesful, like our own offensive.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on September 19, 2013, 03:27:04 pm
Actually the attacking force consisted of:  2500 Coalition, 2000 Crusader Alliance, 700 Stromgarde (lightly armed) and 700 Guards. We called it Operation гром, sadly it fell way short of its name. Considering how many DRZ, GO and even Bashi troops we saw, retreat was the only sensible option. From our perspective it looked like we ran into preparations for a UIF offensive. If this was correct or not I don't know, but not much later UIF launched a large offensivs vs the Crusader Alliance invlving: DRZ, GO, Union and Bashis. Which was, albeit larger, overall pretty unsuccesful, like our own offensive.


Sorry, I just couldn't resist  lol it's not the miles, it's how you live them, that's the power of HRE engineering hehehe, don't mute me bastards )))
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Segd on September 19, 2013, 04:05:38 pm
Actually the attacking force consisted of:  2500 Coalition, 2000 Crusader Alliance, 700 Stromgarde (lightly armed) and 700 Guards. We called it Operation гром, sadly it fell way short of its name. Considering how many DRZ, GO and even Bashi troops we saw, retreat was the only sensible option. From our perspective it looked like we ran into preparations for a UIF offensive. If this was correct or not I don't know, but not much later UIF launched a large offensivs vs the Crusader Alliance invlving: DRZ, GO, Union and Bashis. Which was, albeit larger, overall pretty unsuccesful, like our own offensive.
Hm, I remembered more CA troops. "Fear is liable to make one see all sorts of things"
Anyway, it wasn't offensive preparations, that was all what uif had at the moment. We brought every caravan & garrison that we could find & a lot of shitbricks to build our defenses   :lol:

But I remember that we fucked up the same way at Tshibtin. 6-8 shiny armies trying to take one village. Empire quited after this attacks, we decided to quit a little bit later too.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Rogue on September 19, 2013, 06:08:12 pm
Hm, I remembered more CA troops. "Fear is liable to make one see all sorts of things"
Anyway, it wasn't offensive preparations, that was all what uif had at the moment. We brought every caravan & garrison that we could find & a lot of shitbricks to build our defenses   :lol:

But I remember that we fucked up the same way at Tshibtin. 6-8 shiny armies trying to take one village. Empire quited after this attacks, we decided to quit a little bit later too.

Indeed! What we send back then was close to all we could muster. After the first attack we had enough for a follow-up, but considering all these enemy troops we were scared of an upcoming UIf offensive and retreated to prepare. Fear worked both ways there.  :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on September 19, 2013, 08:47:18 pm
Indeed! What we send back then was close to all we could muster. After the first attack we had enough for a follow-up, but considering all these enemy troops we were scared of an upcoming UIf offensive and retreated to prepare. Fear worked both ways there.  :P

I suppose that you are angry at himself, that you are not wiped us from the map, when you could. And I'm sure that you could, because I remember our hopeless position. Do you remember "The Treasure of the Templars"? Do you remember what I told you when we got it? This was the turning point of whole war. Previously, you had a great chance to win. Now only a miracle can save you. Good luck and have fun and XP.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: BASNAK on September 19, 2013, 11:19:33 pm
Lol so many eastern factions feeding troops to UIF. They probably dont even buy wards.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: bavvoz on September 20, 2013, 06:26:39 pm
Dolby have shown that theres a way back into the light!

Now there seem to be alot of grey people in our lands. Is there a way to stop this plague?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Erasmas on September 20, 2013, 10:33:47 pm
Now there seem to be alot of grey people in our lands. Is there a way to stop this plague?

In case you missed that, you had your chance already, and blew it.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Guray on September 28, 2013, 10:12:57 pm
Epic Battle  8-)
http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=5269
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Abay on September 29, 2013, 04:03:50 am
is it near to the end? well, we will see..
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on September 29, 2013, 04:25:01 am
lolol kapikulu saying something, the least active clan pretending that it has achieved something, tell me what is the most significant thing you have  done in strat last half year? i dont even think you do anything, you just side with those who are wining for some reason, you dont even have real fights. Look at me i am kapikulu i am so great cuz i have big mouth and do nothing :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Abay on September 29, 2013, 04:44:27 am
lolol kapikulu saying something, the least active clan pretending that it has achieved something, tell me what is the most significant thing you have  done in strat last half year? i dont even think you do anything, you just side with those who are wining for some reason, you dont even have real fights. Look at me i am kapikulu i am so great cuz i have big mouth and do nothing :D
I dont need to explain anything to you. Our friends know how we acted!
Plus, the most speaking clan must be Mercs. Dont you agree with me? Who has big mouth?

PS: Why did Nocti wanted us not to help Wolves before you start fighting? And why he was so angry with me on TS till I banned him after he spoke with his big mouth like any Mercs(not all ofc, just needed to speak general here)  :lol:

He was like Sinan Abi. He will get it. Keep being mad. I shall keep punching!
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on September 29, 2013, 04:46:56 am
Weren't you on the other thread saying to the faction that raped you that achievements on strat mean nothing? Now you're asking what this faction has achieved as if it matters. At least stick to the same angle. Either pretend you're too high and mighty for strat, or pretend you're the best at strat, don't try both. Yeeesh, this is why everyone hates Mercs.
what, i am not merc, honestly i dont realy know who the hell are you, obviously someone who is siding whith greys wolves and all those guys and pretending to be big guy. what i meant with my comment above is that so many people express their opinion but how many of them actualy have done something to even earn this super important right to have word.  Dont bother replying i know you just gonna say sometihng smart in 250 word sentance.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Abay on September 29, 2013, 04:51:53 am
big fail here  :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on September 29, 2013, 05:05:27 am
You know that I am a Kapikulu but I didnt know you were not a Merc. Seems, you had a paradox!
jesus, i was quoting that heskeytime dude not you :p
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on September 29, 2013, 05:29:44 am
Don't have to be a big guy to chat shit on forums lol, some make that clearer than others.

Short enough for you?
sure, ohh mighty forum warrior. Perhaps some day we might have another forum war.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Abay on September 29, 2013, 05:54:56 am
jesus, i was quoting that heskeytime dude not you :p
Ops! Mind error  :lol:
May someone kill meeeee   :D

Seems I was very warm on that time  :P

I felt like:
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Guray on September 29, 2013, 06:00:06 am

I made you a new sign
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better resolution
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on September 29, 2013, 06:19:20 am
I made you a new sign
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better resolution
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nice signature :D ( yeeey i am am glad i can be part of your entertainment :) )
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on September 29, 2013, 01:56:56 pm
sure, ohh mighty forum warrior. Perhaps some day we might have another forum war.

I shall bring my pen and we shall duel fiend! I am the mightiest forum warriorz!
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Fips on September 29, 2013, 02:27:30 pm
Aaaaaand once again it's Coalition vs. Everyone, yay.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Vovka on September 29, 2013, 02:40:12 pm
Aaaaaand once again it's Coalition vs. Everyone, yay.
mb in start 5 u will not sit in ur fiefs whole start round :P
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Segd on September 29, 2013, 02:44:10 pm
Aaaaaand once again it's Coalition vs. Everyone, yay.
I think the best way to punish you for doing nothing is to finish everybody except Coalition & invade NA afterwards. Thats far better than giving you billions of XP in endless sieges.  :? (Attacking all the time ain't fun at all)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Rogue on September 29, 2013, 02:51:17 pm
mb in start 5 u will not sit in ur fiefs whole start round :P

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I think the best way to punish you for doing nothing is to finish everybody except Coalition & invade NA afterwards. Thats far better than giving you billions of XP in endless sieges.  :? (Attacking all the time ain't fun at all)

Yes, we clearly never attacked anyone the entire round. Try not to get too carried away with your self-glorification.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Segd on September 29, 2013, 03:59:33 pm
Yes, we clearly never attacked anyone the entire round. Try not to get too carried away with your self-glorification.
My Grandpa was telling stories about your great deeds long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...
This is what happens in the next year of Strat: we will be taking your fiefs one by one, doing the same sieges over & over again(like this retard Rindyar Castle). You will be reinforcing your fiefs. The end.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on September 29, 2013, 04:38:22 pm
Aaaaaand once again it's Coalition vs. Everyone, yay.

Aaaaaand once again Coalition didn't helped mates when they were alive, yay.  :twisted:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on September 29, 2013, 05:46:46 pm
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Erasmas on September 29, 2013, 06:14:39 pm
This war started cause Mercs held more they actually could hold. We said that many times - we have chosen Mercs as our opponents. And that's it. The self-righteous pompous attitudes of Greys? LOL
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Osiris on September 29, 2013, 06:17:47 pm
its mostly some of the wolves with the we be best in the world ever we are so far up our own arses we can see out of our mouths attitudes :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on September 29, 2013, 06:21:16 pm
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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Flans on September 29, 2013, 06:40:52 pm
its mostly some of the wolves with the we be best in the world ever we are so far up our own arses we can see out of our mouths attitudes :D

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
someones feeling a little hurt ;)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Osiris on September 29, 2013, 06:41:34 pm
not really :P if we win we gloat a little sure but you guys win some battles and post acting like your gods of strat :P just gets annoying ^^ (you sound just like nocti n crew used to :D)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Fips on September 29, 2013, 06:43:15 pm
Aaaaaand once again Coalition didn't helped mates when they were alive, yay.  :twisted:

We've helped them a lot already and if they throw their troops and castles away like free candy, why would we continue to help them like we did before? It's not just Merc- or Templol-tickets that are thrown away.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Silicium on September 29, 2013, 07:15:47 pm
We've helped them a lot already and if they throw their troops and castles away like free candy, why would we continue to help them like we did before? It's not just Merc- or Templol-tickets that are thrown away.
Funny hearing it from you, weren't you the one saying merc commander were shit just before coalition got their ass handed over when coming to dhirim?
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Fips on September 29, 2013, 08:41:44 pm
Funny hearing it from you, weren't you the one saying merc commander were shit just before coalition got their ass handed over when coming to dhirim?

Oh you mean those 5 field battles like...uff 6 weeks ago?
Yeah, we failed with 2 armies and the other ones we were doing just fine. We lost but those 2 were actual failes. So what, maybe we lost like 3k tickets there? That's acceptable considering we had many glorious battles before and those are the only real failures i can remember in this strategus. Our commanders are excellent and you can definitely notice that on the outcome of battles when they command. And Mercs? You managed to drive your clan apart and just basically gifting UIF tenthousands of tickets, a whole other story here.

Yes, one particular merc commander was shit, the others i could easily handle with although there have been horrible decisions throughout many merc-battles, but those were not the reasons why so many from Coalition started hating on Mercs. They started hating on Mercs because of the way the Mercs treated their allies and how Mercs dealt with the support they got from Coalition when shit hit the fan.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Rebelyell on September 29, 2013, 10:50:00 pm
Funny hearing it from you, weren't you the one saying merc commander were shit just before coalition got their ass handed over when coming to dhirim?
they are
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on September 30, 2013, 01:58:10 am
Not entirely sure what you mean Fips, I cant imagine Haboe or Tyr being like that.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Fips on September 30, 2013, 02:09:31 am
Not entirely sure what you mean Fips, I cant imagine Haboe or Tyr being like that.

I wasn't talking about anyone specific or saying any names?!

It doesn't matter anyway, the issues have been dealt with.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Zomg on September 30, 2013, 07:26:59 am
I check this thread time to time. And for perhaps once in a long time, the only post with proper attitude, understanding and QQ-less post I have saw, is from SirCymro_Crusader. And (I suppose accidentally?) it was taken in a wrong-way by Erasmas.

I like these QQ threads. Both sides like to bitch. And it is fun to read, to be honest. You also kind of see how people act, in such scenarios. Though I want to congratulate UIF and give a kudos to Apostates. It is nice to see some offensive to our lands now, and it is actually great to see how civilized both sides could be, during that.

On losing fiefs and shit:
Sadly, last night, they lost Fidsnar. Just because of the equipment bug. (again: not Free Peasants problem. Owner should have checked it) Before that, Wolves got the Apos castle with 10k or so troop? Lacking ladders and construction side, again, not Wolves problem. Sad that the fief owners could be a bit more active, so that they could have avoided that shit.

Though I am a firm believer of respecting both sides; I also want to say it is an awesome experience to see Kapıkulu guys ranting here. I don't know jackshit about UIF internal politics or how they do business, but till I see some evidence, I will just keep assuming Kapıkulu as bunch of Turks, lurking and following their masters. (Its not racist, if you are Turk as well!) (let the hate flow through you kapıkulu!)
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Silicium on September 30, 2013, 11:41:54 am
Oh you mean those 5 field battles like...uff 6 weeks ago?
Yeah, we failed with 2 armies and the other ones we were doing just fine. We lost but those 2 were actual failes. So what, maybe we lost like 3k tickets there? That's acceptable considering we had many glorious battles before and those are the only real failures i can remember in this strategus.
Those fight against Kapikulu you mean? Kapikulu aren't quite the greys, that being said even after the operation your faction toke part in Dhirim there were still badly commanded battle from your side, so that is not completely true.

I did not see any of us complaining about it in any case.

Our commanders are excellent and you can definitely notice that on the outcome of battles when they command. And Mercs? You managed to drive your clan apart and just basically gifting UIF tenthousands of tickets, a whole other story here.

Excellent is a big word for your commanders, wen it cam to do the open field battle such as that one battle against the greys 2k v 2k, The Greys managed to keep 1300 alive, without any flag being capped, and there are several battles like this after Dhirim, I can significantly the difference indeed, your faction might have good commanders but excellent certainly not, inc the why I never bother joining Coalition battle since some months ago on top of the occasionally application I throw out.


Yes, one particular merc commander was shit, the others i could easily handle with although there have been horrible decisions throughout many merc-battles, but those were not the reasons why so many from Coalition started hating on Mercs. They started hating on Mercs because of the way the Mercs treated their allies and how Mercs dealt with the support they got from Coalition when shit hit the fan.
That issue as already been addressed already, and like many other factions including yours there have been bad choice done by both side as well as bad people commanding, but the one thing you don't seem to realise, is that despite our commander getting tired of facing a large amount of opposite faction  and having to command each day, we did do well, it was only a matter of time before we would lose all fief at this rate, your help was of no use to bring an impact on the situation and if you had only planned to send 10k each time you had better kept 'em for your self since it would have just made more sense simply because those troops that have been lost for the other block could have just been regenerated by the faction you faced within the time you held back planning your next assault, your leader promised us reinforcement after holding certain period of time, but seeing that that wasn't true we no longer bothered either.

That some Merc started to treat their allies that isn't new, but i do agree that it shouldn't have happened, one of the reason i suggested cymro to make our own faction and do things our way, the only thing i can say in this, is that there is no innocent in this, have seen Merc trashed Hre,and Fallen, same for Fallen and Hre, and it brings to no where, we can point finger as much as we want it won't solve the issue, it was also like this wen i was in templar also but i honestly I did not give a fuck.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Harpag on September 30, 2013, 12:46:05 pm
Instead mutual accusations, better organize a common defense and gather all survivors in the middle of Coalition territory, because there will be no mercy from our side  :twisted:
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Erasmas on September 30, 2013, 01:22:52 pm
Instead mutual accusations, better organize a common defense and gather all survivors in the middle of Coalition territory, because there will be no mercy from our side  :twisted:

One-liner. Definitely deserves the warning. :D Although very RP as well, sooo though bitch to swallow for moderators :D :D :D
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on September 30, 2013, 04:43:03 pm
Jeirbe castle may have been equipment bugged, but they had ladders for most of the fight, although perhaps they rationed them carefully. The front roof was taken back from time to time at the start by defense thanks to their ladders. Defenders laddered across the breach and kept a presence on the front until these were broken. Like i said though, it may just have been conservative use of ladders, but that implies they had too few, not that the bug stopped them using any. Same with ranged, they had some, but they just ran out.

As for Fisdnar, that was just destiny, the gods were clearly on the free peasants side rewarding their devotion. How can i tell? Because i ended up dueling a couple of players 1on1 in that battle and won lol, their armour appeared to be of a high standard, as were their weapons. So even *i* got a positive k/d without killstealing, in totally legit 1on1 fights  :shock: ....the only explanation is divine intervention, i was a spawn guard for most of the battle after 2 initial forays into their village, i didn't partake in the spawn rape. The gods themselves granted me wisdom and the ability to block during that battle! Was same for the whole team, gods granted them strength.

Fisdnar was won because of superb, well planned and exact commanding in phrases like (not 100% accurate):

-"if you, eeh, go sort of up the hill aaaaand kill the guys on top of it it would be totally like awesome"

or in the midst of battle when the commander shouts out
-"look at the cabbage in the fields man- its great, Fisdnar is the greatest freakin place on earth with the best cabbage fields imagineable"

and
"you know man, I am shitfaced and really stoned aswell so im not sure if we brought any ladders??" 


Awesome fight peasants, it has been fun watching the story about Fisdnar - they really should steal the story and make it into a movie

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Knute on September 30, 2013, 07:49:14 pm
As for Fisdnar, that was just destiny, the gods were clearly on the free peasants side rewarding their devotion. How can i tell? Because i ended up dueling a couple of players 1on1 in that battle and won lol, their armour appeared to be of a high standard, as were their weapons. So even *i* got a positive k/d without killstealing, in totally legit 1on1 fights  :shock: ....the only explanation is divine intervention, i was a spawn guard for most of the battle after 2 initial forays into their village, i didn't partake in the spawn rape. The gods themselves granted me wisdom and the ability to block during that battle! Was same for the whole team, gods granted them strength.

I can only agree.  There's seven of us and we took it in seven battles, it doesn't get any more destiny than that.

Another preview image from the upcoming history of the free peasants of Fisdnar tapestry, chadz and Harold banishing Arys to NA:

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Falka on September 30, 2013, 08:16:23 pm
there have been horrible decisions throughout many merc-battles

I have participated in plenty of mercs battles and never seen such poor commanding like in one of coalitions battles against greys. Don't be so self righteous  :rolleyes:

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Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Uther Pendragon on October 10, 2015, 07:46:36 pm
A chronicler job is to remember, so that others don't have to.
But sometimes, it seems as if some things are better left forgotten.

Then again, some things must also be brought back and experienced again, because they will probably never happen again.
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Bryggan on October 10, 2015, 08:51:21 pm
Ugh, necros.  "Tell us about the good ol days, granpa!"
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: Latvian on October 11, 2015, 01:18:18 pm
fun times
Title: Re: War on Apostates
Post by: GRANDMOM on October 11, 2015, 02:40:38 pm
Yep and tiresome, long nights without sleep and battles 24/7