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Title: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 13, 2013, 11:55:35 pm
This post is nothing But a Counting of battles and losses. If you have updates post it here And I'll update the counting as we go.
HERE IT IS IN GOOGLE DOC FORM!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiLiPRCefe-NdFlMa3pxYjJ0dm5IVmRHVmV5WTdHalE&usp=sharing

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KILL DEATH RATIO(Effectivity Ratio): How many troops you kill/all troops lost
Note: This takes total killed divided by losses above. So all values are higher than pure K/D, but it's close enough
Major Factions
Alphabetical Order

Astralis
Total Losses: 7990
KDR: 0.92
Last Updated: 8/12/13

Chaos
Losses: 5537
KDR: 0.95 (Net Change: No Change)
Last Updated: 10/27/13

Central Confederacy
Total Losses: 64362
KDR: 0.83 (Net Change: +0.10)
Last Updated: 11/26/13

Free Companies of Calradia
Total Losses:272881
KDR: 1.0182 (Net Change: 0)
Last Updated: 11/26/13

Fuck It Dude, Lets Go Bowling(FIDLGB)
Losses: 30916
KDR: 0.78
Last Updated: 10/16/13

Hounds of Chulain
Total Losses: 52867
KDR: 0.59 (Net Change: -0.02)
Last Updated: 11/26/13

GOBBLIN KING, GREAT LEADER.
Total Losses: 34362
KDR: 1.12 (Net Change: -0.03)
Last Updated: 11/26/13

Knights Hospitaller
Total Losses: 88455
KDR: 0.66 (Net Change: -0.01)
Last Updated: 10/16/13

Murder Boner
Total Losses: 17247
KDR: 1.13
Last Updated: 8/27/13

Les Chevaliers Occitans
Total Losses: 133130
KDR: 0.85
Last Updated: 10/16/13

Lost Legion
Loses: 47382
KDR: 0.52 (Net Change: +0.03)
Last Updated: 11/26/13

The Kingdom of Veluca
Losses: 7879
KDR: 0.71
Last Updated: 10/16/13

Warriors of the First Age
Losses: 7493
KDR: 0.45
Last Updated: 10/16/13

TOTAL LOSSES, ALL FACTIONS:925,892 
Total Kills: 594,286



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Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 14, 2013, 12:26:05 am
The Great NA Wars

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Finished Wars:
http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/the-great-na-war-losses-to-date/msg722958/#msg722958
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: partyboy on February 14, 2013, 12:27:05 am
How many more sons and daughters must we lose before we learn to live in peace?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Sir_Mahtin on February 14, 2013, 12:55:18 am
Either all Velucan's sons will parish or Occitan's... whatever god's will is, I don't care as long as the xp keeps on coming.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Duster on February 14, 2013, 12:56:08 am
How many more sons and daughters must we lose before we learn to live in peace?

At least a few more Bridgeburners.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on February 14, 2013, 01:02:30 am
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Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Syls on February 14, 2013, 01:25:25 am
Either all Velucan's sons will parish or Occitan's... whatever god's will is, I don't care as long as the xp keeps on coming.

The Velucan Empire make a LOT of babies  :mrgreen:

Half of them are Roberts bastards...
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Hobb on February 14, 2013, 01:30:29 am
A lot syls, the Velucan Empire makes a lot of battles.

Damn frenchies!!!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Thax on February 14, 2013, 01:33:57 am
At least the current war is exposing the care-bear alliance of the entire eastern portion of the NA map.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on February 14, 2013, 01:42:59 am
At least the current war is exposing the care-bear alliance of the entire eastern portion of the NA map.

Why don't you add the jabonra tag to your forum name since you are another of the troop farmers for HP.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Syls on February 14, 2013, 02:34:28 am
A lot syls, the Velucan Empire makes a lot of battles.

Damn frenchies!!!

um wut I ain't seeing no problem
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Commodore_Axephante on February 14, 2013, 03:07:33 am
These numbers are skewed because many of the Fimbulvetr deaths have been me, and in actuality I'm only one person.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Blackzilla on February 14, 2013, 03:55:38 am
Why don't you add the jabonra tag to your forum name since you are another of the troop farmers for HP.
Hey if you're going to call someone out like that, make sure they're in Hero Party.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on February 14, 2013, 03:57:51 am
Hey if you're going to call someone out like that, make sure they're in Hero Party.

I was just going off what he was bragging about on battle server.  I should learn by now to take anything thax says with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on February 14, 2013, 04:38:33 am
I was just going off what he was bragging about on battle server.  I should learn by now to take anything thax says with a truckload of salt.

fixed
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Gristle on February 14, 2013, 04:43:54 am
If Thax really was in Hero Party along with Jason, that would be amazing.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: LordLargos on February 14, 2013, 06:28:07 am
My poor army, they were the brave 1600 who fell to the wrath of chadz and the quick sands of weyyah that can suck up catapult whole. I would like to order the flags of Almerra to be lowered to half staff, and I would also like to request a monument in Tshbitin for it's former lord and commander these brave.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: partyboy on February 14, 2013, 08:23:01 am
My poor army, they were the brave 1600 who fell to the wrath of chadz and the quick sands of weyyah that can suck up catapult whole. I would like to order the flags of Almerra to be lowered to half staff, and I would also like to request a monument in Tshbitin for it's former lord and commander these brave.

If they even implement the idea of customizing fiefs I will make a monument to your loss, although it may be overshadowed by the bizarro-land I make around it.

edit:  haha, now that I think about it, since they are doing their awful cashgrab "game" there will be no further changes to strat.  which means they can't ruin it any more, I guess.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: HeraldOfTheGOBBLINKING on February 14, 2013, 09:44:10 am
Are Blackzilla's brave soldiers included in this list?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 14, 2013, 04:30:39 pm
Are Blackzilla's brave soldiers included in this list?

Yes!

I do need updates for the battles at 12:30 and 3 AM this morning!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Sir_Winston_Churchill on February 14, 2013, 07:36:55 pm
Would it be possible to include how many each faction has killed of the enemy and how many they've lost?

Also, I lost 1.3k but it was to Teutonic, not any of the Factions in the "Great War" so did you count that?/Are you going to include the Teutonic/Frisia/Chaos incident?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: oprah_winfrey on February 14, 2013, 07:57:19 pm
So 20% of the occitan/hp losses were due to the blackzilla/badplayer thing and Tydeus leaving?

Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 14, 2013, 09:30:08 pm
Would it be possible to include how many each faction has killed of the enemy and how many they've lost?

Also, I lost 1.3k but it was to Teutonic, not any of the Factions in the "Great War" so did you count that?/Are you going to include the Teutonic/Frisia/Chaos incident?

That's the point of the Losses. To record how many have died amongst the factions. Doesn't matter who's killed how many, but if you want I can. I'll need battle lists though at that point.

I did NOT include minor squabbles, such as the KUTT KOMEBACK, or the Tuetonic fights. Also, FCC and Fimbul have NOT givin me their losses, I had to SEARCH through battle logs(mainly mine) for them. I've fought in most battles so the list for everyone but FCC is about right. I'm missing a Rohyphnol vs Blondekhan battle(1500 vs about 1800).

I could list the Skirmishes from  regional conflicts.

@oprah
4.5k HP losses were from those two events.
and Fimbul lost 1400 tickets to a flag cap aswell.

If you remove both of those, you'll see that the Blue block has suffered higher casulty rates compared to the Red block. But Defense is it's own advantage.

COULD PEOPLE LINK ME TO BATTLES FROM 12:30 and 3 AM today!!!!!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: oprah_winfrey on February 14, 2013, 09:36:51 pm


COULD PEOPLE LINK ME TO BATTLES FROM 12:30 and 3 AM today!!!!!

3:00am battle

JABONRA_Mr_Pibb vs New Qalyut - Hide Details
- Battle time: 14.02., 09:00
- Battle duration: 38m33s
- Army size: 678 vs 1281
- Battle result: 0 vs 571

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But Defense is it's own advantage.

So far, that doesn't appear to hold true in the desert.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on February 14, 2013, 09:49:59 pm
bANGbROS_Busty vs Shik - Hide Details
- Battle time: 01.02., 00:21
- Battle duration: 01m05s
- Army size: 1504 vs 1500
- Battle result: 247 vs 0
- Winner: Attacker

BlondeKhan_ATS vs ROHYPNOL - Hide Details
- Battle time: 31.01., 06:08
- Battle duration: 56m04s
- Army size: 1315 vs 1759
- Battle result: 0 vs 889
- Winner: Defender

MURDERHOUSE vs Shik - Hide Details
- Battle time: 30.01., 22:32
- Battle duration: 45m03s
- Army size: 1017 vs 2280
- Battle result: 0 vs 1500
- Winner: Defender

Shik vs Nova Ibiran - Hide Details
- Battle time: 29.01., 13:00
- Battle duration: 32m03s
- Army size: 2779 vs 749
- Battle result: 2280 vs 52
- Winner: Attacker

And since FCC led the masterful defense of this siege, i am throwing in this as well:
0 survivors
1688 killed
commanded by
Blackzilla

hero_party
3976 survivors
4 of 3980 killed
defending
New Samarra Castle

And for the sake of full accuracy:
hero_party
0 survivors
678 killed
commanded by
JABONRA_Mr_Pibb

The Velucan Empire
571 survivors
710 of 1281 killed
defending
New Qalyut

hero_party
914 survivors
667 of 1581 killed
commanded by
SMOOTHRICH

The Velucan Empire
0 survivors
1068 killed
defending
Nova Sekhtem

Total:

FCC: 4286
HP: 6682

Ill try to keep you updated as more battles finish off.  Also, Egan, I like how you choose a fight where you guys had half again as many mercs and half your team was cav and yet you still couldn't cap all flags and win, though yes you killed a few more defenders than attackers, I was actually a lot more impressed by the defenders who were heavily outnumbered in mercs and outgeared.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: oprah_winfrey on February 14, 2013, 10:11:50 pm
And since FCC led the masterful defense of this siege, i am throwing in this as well:

Get real.

Actual numbers:

FCC: 4286
HP: 3639

Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on February 14, 2013, 11:07:20 pm
Get real.

Actual numbers:

FCC: 4286
HP: 3639

Lulz, sorry we attacked your shiny armies with heavily armed and armed not wanting to waste our gear and being attackers and still lost only 20% more than defenders, lulz.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: HeraldOfTheGOBBLINKING on February 14, 2013, 11:12:15 pm

And since FCC led the masterful defense of this siege, i am throwing in this as well:
0 survivors
1688 killed
commanded by
Blackzilla

Kesh I think we both know that it was Me who led our team to victory. You were merely my sidekick.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 15, 2013, 01:23:14 am
Ok thank you kesh, I only needed that battle of Roy and Blond so FCC is now Uptodate.

As of this post the Blue block has lost roughly 5.5k troops MORE than the Red block.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Syls on February 15, 2013, 01:54:37 am
Occitan_Decurtius vs Maple_Syrup_MB - Hide Details
- Battle time: 15.02., 00:44
- Battle duration: 02m55s
- Army size: 1595 vs 2165
- Battle result: 294 vs 939
- Winner: Defender

We capped those flags :3
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: oprah_winfrey on February 15, 2013, 02:14:43 am
Lulz, sorry we attacked your shiny armies with heavily armed and armed not wanting to waste our gear and being attackers and still lost only 20% more than defenders, lulz.

Why don't you talk about Nova Ibiran were you guys lost 30% more as defenders?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on February 15, 2013, 02:30:51 am
Why don't you talk about Nova Ibiran were you guys lost 30% more as defenders?

Even better gambesons against plate armor and we only lost 30% more, thank you for mentioning that.  Shitty village to defend, we had half as many mercs as you guys again and we still killed that many before a short spawn rape and we got to keep all remaining troops after flags were capped.  We only brought out equal gear in the last attack on shik where we got more kills than defenders did despite the difficulties of being attackers in open fields.  Personally I think you are going to enjoy all the shiny armies we sent down this time.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: oprah_winfrey on February 15, 2013, 02:53:12 am
Even better gambesons against plate armor and we only lost 30% more, thank you for mentioning that.  Shitty village to defend, we had half as many mercs as you guys again and we still killed that many before a short spawn rape and we got to keep all remaining troops after flags were capped.  We only brought out equal gear in the last attack on shik where we got more kills than defenders did despite the difficulties of being attackers in open fields.  Personally I think you are going to enjoy all the shiny armies we sent down this time.

Wasn't at any of the battles, all I have to go off is the numbers. And yes personally I am going to enjoy all the shiny armies that were sent down. In my book more battles are always a positive thing.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Syls on February 15, 2013, 03:21:51 am
Occitan_eZink vs HoC_Lord_Soturin - Hide Details
- Battle time: 15.02., 02:02
- Battle duration: 14m36s
- Army size: 1814 vs 1600
- Battle result: 406 vs 0
- Winner: Attacker

Another battle for you Anders
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 15, 2013, 03:34:33 am
Thanks syls, I was there so I added that one in.

I've got the list up to date for the most part. That count is current dead between the two sides. with the Blue block being down 6k(counting the 1600 ticket bug). So in reality it's a 4.5k margin.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Adoptagoat on February 15, 2013, 06:07:53 am
Thanks for keeping track anders.  One thing though, the reality includes bugs etc, it's not like we're ever going to get those troops back.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 15, 2013, 06:46:48 am
Thanks for keeping track anders.  One thing though, the reality includes bugs etc, it's not like we're ever going to get those troops back.

Yea, but that was 1.6k troops who COULDN"T kill the enemy. had you actually had a battle, I'd assume they would have lost 800-1200 for your 1600 versus them losing nothing(ok like 5 or whatever when gate opened for end) for your 1600.

I still count the 1600 as lost but it's a special lost since both sides had the bug and you got adversely affected because of it(more than LCO).
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on February 15, 2013, 10:24:30 am
it would be pretty epic if you could see the value of each army to start and the value of equipment lost. The two fights I was in today the enemy had crazy amounts of destriers, that shit musta cost a lot.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on February 15, 2013, 10:26:19 am
dbrookz vs SMOOTHRICH - Hide Details
- Battle time: 15.02., 09:03
- Battle duration: 58m15s
- Army size: 1532 vs 922
- Battle result: 612 vs 0
- Winner: Attacker


FCC: 920 deaths
HP: 922 deaths
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 15, 2013, 07:37:08 pm
Added the two battles from last night.
Malta v Fimbul
and
FCC v HP

Losses up to date.
I am going to start including any minor/lesser faction that gets involved in this war. They aren't going to have their totals in the block unless  they claim to ally/join said block in their war.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Haramir on February 15, 2013, 08:02:00 pm
Could you add the number of clan member involved on each side
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: defodijabox on February 15, 2013, 08:14:48 pm
We've also had other battles

NFL_Peyton_Manning vs Malta_TECHNOKirby - Hide Details
- Battle time: 09.02., 11:07
- Battle duration: 35m03s
- Army size: 569 vs 1455
- Battle result: 0 vs 993
- Winner: Defender

Cavalieres_KaMiKaZe_JoE vs Malta_Faust_AKC - Hide Details
- Battle time: 21.01., 01:01
- Battle duration: 28m22s
- Army size: 500 vs 500
- Battle result: 0 vs 140
- Winner: Defender
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Rikthor on February 15, 2013, 08:35:29 pm
BOARD clan has had one battle if we are going back that far

Historian_Rikthorrr vs Malta_Defodijabox_AKC - Hide Details
- Battle time: 12.01., 13:12
- Battle duration: 04m20s
- Army size: 237 vs 100
- Battle result: 252 vs 44
- Winner: Attacker

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Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: MURDERTRON on February 15, 2013, 08:42:58 pm
This is a bad thread, go make your spreadsheets somewhere else.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Gmnotutoo on February 15, 2013, 09:01:40 pm
GSKDDJSNDS Faction's losses and kills:

Ninja Kills: 892
Ninjas Killed: 342
Strat Battles Record: Undefeated
Current Army Size: Unknown (I r hide in teh shadowz.)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on February 15, 2013, 09:53:33 pm
Added the two battles from last night.
Malta v Fimbul
and
FCC v HP

Losses up to date.
I am going to start including any minor/lesser faction that gets involved in this war. They aren't going to have their totals in the block unless  they claim to ally/join said block in their war.

Is it really accurate to add our losses against Malta? They were basically just traders that we attacked totally irrelevant of the conflicts involving VE/FCC/HP/Occ/Fimbulvetr.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Syls on February 16, 2013, 12:02:25 am
Occitan_Ceihdrikk vs RUSSOxD_of_TKoV - Hide Details
- Battle time: 15.02., 23:32
- Battle duration: 19m52s
- Army size: 2058 vs 500
- Battle result: 1714 vs 0
- Winner: Attacker

Caravan attack
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Commodore_Axephante on February 16, 2013, 12:25:44 am
How many more sons and daughters must we lose before we learn to live in peace?

We will not stop until the burial mounds about Rindyar castle raise higher than Uhhun's earthen ridge. Until a new forest of blood-watered pines covers the land once known as the Plains. Until... we... ah... win!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Wesleysnipes on February 16, 2013, 12:47:31 am
 Teutonic Knights (KoJ):

 Total losses: 9,906
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 16, 2013, 02:57:18 am
Teutonic Added.
 
I'm slightly Hesitant about this as technically you fought against Frisia and a ...gank squad near the beginning of this war(before VE jumped in).
Malta was added because a 1000 man army is NOT a trade caravan for a small or Fiefless faction.

Kirby, I don't know when those other two took place and I believe both were before the war started and are not being added. If you fight more against either side then I will add your losses as a block(depending on who you side).

I'm trying to keep the list limited to the major players and Any battles that they fight. Like in EU 3, those rebels might not be important in the grand scheme, but when you're at war, they can hurt.

I'm also starting a post with all battle links. Unfortunately I don't have the initial battles, but It's good. Will keep a running link as the war goes!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Commodore_Axephante on February 16, 2013, 03:07:03 am
... as the war goes!

And it will. Oh, it will.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Syls on February 16, 2013, 04:19:16 am
Occitan_Jean_Charest vs Maple_Syrup_MB - Hide Details
- Battle time: 16.02., 02:56
- Battle duration: 16m26s
- Army size: 1562 vs 2143
- Battle result: 37 vs 716
- Winner: Defender

Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Syls on February 16, 2013, 04:47:46 am
HoC_Lord_Largos vs New Hawaha - Hide Details
- Battle time: 16.02., 04:12
- Battle duration: 21m02s
- Army size: 600 vs 680
- Battle result: 0 vs 370
- Winner: Defender

Remnant of Weyyah Castle siege.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: MURDERTRON on February 16, 2013, 04:55:21 am
This can all be automated, so long as someone programs a simple script.  Every battle has an ID, which you can easily get before hand.  Or, the script could have a running total, and just compile data from battle 0001 to whatever it is at now.  This thread is stupid.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 16, 2013, 04:58:03 am
This can all be automated, so long as someone programs a simple script.  Every battle has an ID, which you can easily get before hand.  Or, the script could have a running total, and just compile data from battle 0001 to whatever it is at now.  This thread is stupid.

I am not a programmer. If someone does know, then they should make one so we can have a REAL list. As I'm human, errors will, inevitably pop up.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Adoptagoat on February 16, 2013, 05:01:48 am
Murdertron has clearly volunteered, let us know the eta on your script, or your post was trolly and useless.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Syls on February 17, 2013, 06:59:01 am
Chevalier_Inglorious vs Maple_Syrup_MB - Hide Details
- Battle time: 17.02., 06:18
- Battle duration: 29m43s
- Army size: 1602 vs 1300
- Battle result: 1160 vs 680
- Winner: Defender

Flag capped.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on February 17, 2013, 07:04:40 am
Chevalier_Inglorious vs Maple_Syrup_MB - Hide Details
- Battle time: 17.02., 06:18
- Battle duration: 29m43s
- Army size: 1602 vs 1300
- Battle result: 1160 vs 680
- Winner: Defender

Flag capped.

YOU'RE WELCOME.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: arowaine on February 17, 2013, 07:10:22 am
yeah well play there.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Syls on February 17, 2013, 11:13:33 am
Occitan_Bob_The_Supreme vs HoC_Lord_Largos - Hide Details
- Battle time: 17.02., 08:58
- Battle duration: 10m01s
- Army size: 131 vs 18
- Battle result: 87 vs 0
- Winner: Attacker

WE ARE VELUCA!

Chevalier_Bonsai_sans_Cheval vs Syls_Lord_of_TKoV - Hide Details
- Battle time: 17.02., 09:48
- Battle duration: 03m25s
- Army size: 1647 vs 1300
- Battle result: 473 vs 31
- Winner: Attacker

Look like I'm going to have some holidays in eu land.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 17, 2013, 08:50:49 pm
Chevalier_Inglorious vs Maple_Syrup_MB - Hide Details
- Battle time: 17.02., 06:18
- Battle duration: 29m43s
- Army size: 1602 vs 1300
- Battle result: 1160 vs 680
- Winner: Defender

Flag capped.

Very nice. Wonder how poor Occitan let themselves be Capped. Probably the map.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Digglez on February 17, 2013, 08:54:40 pm
Very nice. Wonder how poor Occitan let themselves be Capped. Probably the map.

Dark, forest, fog.

and 5 or so cav that came back to flags decided to charge instead of dismount and reclaim flags
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 17, 2013, 09:03:08 pm
Dark, forest, fog.

and 5 or so cav that came back to flags decided to charge instead of dismount and reclaim flags

Ah! Damn those foggy forests! Didn't the roman legions teach you anything about forests!

Added Tretter just cause of the YOLO. Didn't factor any FCC loses but i put trettor up there for some Yoloing.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Tanken on February 17, 2013, 09:03:43 pm
Where's the report for New Zagush at from last night's battle? Looks like it was horrifying..
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 17, 2013, 09:04:53 pm
Where's the report for New Zagush at from last night's battle? Looks like it was horrifying..

The casulty lists? I updated right after the battle. Also check the links below the list. I have a running list of all  large(500+) battles.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Inglorious on February 17, 2013, 09:05:18 pm
Fimbulvetr
0 survivors
1000 killed
commanded by
MrPink_of_Frisia

Les Chevaliers Occitans
2066 survivors
406 of 2472 killed
defending
New Zagush
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 17, 2013, 09:07:24 pm
As an Aside, Red Block increased kill count up to 8000 from it's previous 6000. But They are BURNING some tickets. 40k tickets lost on the Blue side and 32k lost on Red side....

All that XP! :twisted:
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Tanken on February 17, 2013, 09:11:59 pm
Fimbulvetr
0 survivors
1000 killed
commanded by
MrPink_of_Frisia

Les Chevaliers Occitans
2066 survivors
406 of 2472 killed
defending
New Zagush

What happened? We could only kill 400 men with 1000 tickets? Wtfery.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 17, 2013, 09:14:47 pm
What happened? We could only kill 400 men with 1000 tickets? Wtfery.

No cav(not really needed IMO), no ladders/siege gear for anything beyond forward base, and lots of enemy ranged.

Wasn't good, bad gear set up etc. I believe sanderson realized this and at like 400 tickets said: "Fuk it, Lets Yolo" at that point, our K/D as a team went from 0.333 to like 0.48 or something(someone said)....so Yoloing works.

ALSO:
WHY U NO PAY ME FOR THIS BATTLE VE
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2447

I WENT SECOND BEST AT 67 AND 38! :mad:
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Syls on February 17, 2013, 09:49:55 pm
No cav(not really needed IMO), no ladders/siege gear for anything beyond forward base, and lots of enemy ranged.

Wasn't good, bad gear set up etc. I believe sanderson realized this and at like 400 tickets said: "Fuk it, Lets Yolo" at that point, our K/D as a team went from 0.333 to like 0.48 or something(someone said)....so Yoloing works.

ALSO:
WHY U NO PAY ME FOR THIS BATTLE VE
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2447

I WENT SECOND BEST AT 67 AND 38! :mad:

Make sure to remind us if you want to be paid ^^ I've just paid you the amount you asked for.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 17, 2013, 10:02:25 pm
Make sure to remind us if you want to be paid ^^ I've just paid you the amount you asked for.

So wait you pay every battle?!

.....

Need to get onto you guys then. Can't be a merc if I'm not paid!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Syls on February 17, 2013, 10:07:16 pm
So wait you pay every battle?!

.....

Need to get onto you guys then. Can't be a merc if I'm not paid!

In all honesty I paid you because you asked for it and we accepted you anyway. I don't accept people that ask to be paid but I wasn't the one who did roll-call for that battle. Of course we're happy to pay people that do exceptionally well during a battle if they ask us to afterward or if it's a really late-night battle where we need people, but like I said, we simply won't accept you if you ask to be paid before the battle happen normally. So in a way that was a screw-up  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 20, 2013, 01:25:04 am
Right ok updated.

Hey blackzilla, how many troops you taking with you. Gotta factor that in. It'll hurt the Red Blocks losses as that'll be (1-3k) more troops lost. and they only have a 7k margin atm.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Duster on February 20, 2013, 01:32:46 am
Since Kesh was permabanned, you should probably count that as a loss for FCC.  :wink:
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Artyem on February 20, 2013, 01:38:56 am
Since Kesh was permabanned, you should probably count that as a loss for FCC.  :wink:

So it turns out that HP actually was hiding weapons of mass destruction, I knew we should have invaded sooner...
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 20, 2013, 01:39:59 am
Since Kesh was permabanned, you should probably count that as a loss for FCC.  :wink:

Not getting involved at ALL! Keep that drama where it belongs. I want my regular strat related drama here!

Black is that 1800 men most of what you have or not?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 20, 2013, 06:04:13 am
Second post since it's a change to main page.

ADDED Hospitaller to Major Factions and LCO block.

I need names for the Blocks now.  Accepting Ideas!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on February 20, 2013, 07:03:21 am
Team Jacob vs Team Edward. I don't care which is which.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: LordLargos on February 20, 2013, 07:07:54 am
...100,000 will be dead by the end of week. If I had to make a prediction I'd say 200,000 will be dead by the time hero party and Occitan are defeated and that's optimistic and doesn't factor in the losses taken by The Hospitalliers.
Why Hospitalliers you guys are cool I don't wanna fight you.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Peppovitch on February 20, 2013, 08:07:41 am
...100,000 will be dead by the end of week. If I had to make a prediction I'd say 200,000 will be dead by the time hero party and Occitan are defeated and that's optimistic and doesn't factor in the losses taken by The Hospitalliers.
Why Hospitalliers you guys are cool I don't wanna fight you.

We only want to liberate the exotic kittens of Zagush.  Before NH took over, the Kittens would frolic in meadows of daffodils,  drink fully fortified milk,  and had full veterinary coverage!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Taser on February 20, 2013, 08:47:13 am
We only want to liberate the exotic kittens of Zagush.  Before NH took over, the Kittens would frolic in meadows of daffodils,  drink fully fortified milk,  and had full veterinary coverage!

The Great Kitten War.


This has been a fun fight so far and with more and more fronts opening up, this is getting to truly be a Great War.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Aztek on February 20, 2013, 11:44:05 am
...100,000 will be dead by the end of week. If I had to make a prediction I'd say 200,000 will be dead by the time hero party and Occitan are defeated and that's optimistic and doesn't factor in the losses taken by The Hospitalliers.
Why Hospitalliers you guys are cool I don't wanna fight you.

We do not want to fight you either, We are simply trying to save the kittens before Digglez eats them all!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Holiday203 on February 20, 2013, 11:52:39 am
That's the point of the Losses. To record how many have died amongst the factions. Doesn't matter who's killed how many, but if you want I can. I'll need battle lists though at that point.

I did NOT include minor squabbles, such as the KUTT KOMEBACK, or the Tuetonic fights. Also, FCC and Fimbul have NOT givin me their losses, I had to SEARCH through battle logs(mainly mine) for them. I've fought in most battles so the list for everyone but FCC is about right. I'm missing a Rohyphnol vs Blondekhan battle(1500 vs about 1800).

I could list the Skirmishes from  regional conflicts.

@oprah
4.5k HP losses were from those two events.
and Fimbul lost 1400 tickets to a flag cap aswell.

If you remove both of those, you'll see that the Blue block has suffered higher casulty rates compared to the Red block. But Defense is it's own advantage.

COULD PEOPLE LINK ME TO BATTLES FROM 12:30 and 3 AM today!!!!!

Minor squabbles? 9k losses would be a lot do you not agree?

Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 20, 2013, 03:34:01 pm
Minor squabbles? 9k losses would be a lot do you not agree?

It was a minor squabble in terms of the "Great Kitten War". As it was primarily fought by 1 faction against...multiple others and lasted roughly 3-4 days.

This war has been ongoing for 1-2 weeks and nearly 80k are dead already. I'd say 10% of that is a "Minor Squabble".
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Haramir on February 20, 2013, 06:05:34 pm
BlondeKhan_ATS vs Occitan_Ceihdrikk
- Battle time: 20.02., 14:00
- Battle duration: 02m30s
- Army size: 275 vs 805
- Battle result: 255 vs 824
- Winner: Defender
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 20, 2013, 06:11:36 pm
Recorded already. Thanks!

I keep a tally list on front page of all battles that are up coming/done. If marked out I already recorded it.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on February 20, 2013, 06:16:47 pm
BlondeKhan_ATS vs Occitan_Ceihdrikk
- Battle time: 20.02., 14:00
- Battle duration: 02m30s
- Army size: 275 vs 805
- Battle result: 255 vs 824
- Winner: Defender


Lol, yeah the server went down for a long time, so none of our mercs could join.  i guess it came back up quite a bit later and they had 1 guy join and then the rest on defenders, so attackers autolost.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: oprah_winfrey on February 20, 2013, 06:29:51 pm

Lol, yeah the server went down for a long time, so none of our mercs could join.  i guess it came back up quite a bit later and they had 1 guy join and then the rest on defenders, so attackers autolost.

Let me guess, you think shik turned the server off and then turned it back on a few hours later and told occitan to come back in.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Duster on February 20, 2013, 06:32:09 pm
Conspiracy kesh is my favorite kesh, some of the best reads in the history of this mod.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on February 20, 2013, 06:54:12 pm
Let me guess, you think shik turned the server off and then turned it back on a few hours later and told occitan to come back in.

Wow you guys are weird conspiracy theorists.  I laughed at the battle results because we had no one show up and you guys attack me with weird shit - so sad hero party, you and smoothrich deserve each other.   All your egos so gigantic.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Haramir on February 20, 2013, 06:58:52 pm

Lol, yeah the server went down for a long time, so none of our mercs could join.  i guess it came back up quite a bit later and they had 1 guy join and then the rest on defenders, so attackers autolost.

I think the server restarted maybe 10 minute late and yeah we where around 20 vs 8 ppl, then it was the opposite for the next battle between FFC and HP, you guys add around 30 merc vs ours 20, morning battle are shit but still better then 4:00 am battle
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 21, 2013, 05:42:42 am
Losses updated.

11k difference now. Red block gaining an edge!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Fred_the_Destroyer on February 21, 2013, 02:49:19 pm
Add 700 troops from clan mackinnon, who defeated kesh's hordes in a glorious last stand, only to be Robb starked while taking refuge in fidlgb. Walter shall forever be known as "Black Walter" and the mackinnon clan will return anew.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on February 21, 2013, 04:12:52 pm
Stealing s/d is a bad idea. we have good neighbors willing to finish the job
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Fred_the_Destroyer on February 21, 2013, 05:34:23 pm
I will enjoy crushing anyone who challenges me, like I crushed you and yours.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on February 21, 2013, 06:40:33 pm
im confused. i attended two fimbl battles and we had better than 1:1 in both fights, how has the ratio gotten worse?
here is the second one.
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2554
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on February 21, 2013, 06:47:12 pm
Fred is clan mackinnon. he won the fight after stealing our sd... but him telling us before the fight that he was not fighting and we were going to give his gear back. So we did not give gear to our army and did not even try to get people on the roster. we took anyone who signed. we had no cav and very little weapons. no biggie . Bowlers booted him and sent him to eu to finish it.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Fred_the_Destroyer on February 21, 2013, 07:24:34 pm
Well, I will just come back again and crush you again, try making excuses if you want but I had a 240 man deficit. I cannot take responsibility for this. The valiant souls who signed up for the battle won it and very little of the glory goes to me. However the defeat by the hand of Walter is my fault. I trusted somebody I had no reason to out of desperation, it will not happen again.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 21, 2013, 08:01:57 pm
im confused. i attended two fimbl battles and we had better than 1:1 in both fights, how has the ratio gotten worse?
here is the second one.
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2554

VE has suffered 2:1 losses attacking, that's how.

When I started this, VE was down by 6k then Occitan attacked slightly increasing the total to 7k, but now VE's again on the offensive bring it up 3.

Attacking is hard, that's why.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Muki on February 22, 2013, 09:18:31 am
Very nice to have someone keeping track of some of the history going on in this war, keep it up :)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on February 22, 2013, 02:51:55 pm
Been two days, update your numbers, slacker!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 22, 2013, 03:24:58 pm
Been two days, update your numbers, slacker!

Hush, I updated yesterday. Probably forgot to update the date though. Have a tendency to do that.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on February 22, 2013, 03:26:01 pm
It said « Last Edit: February 20, 2013, 10:41:47 pm by Lt_Anders », your lies will not be easily forgotten.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 22, 2013, 04:18:30 pm
Heh, then I did.

I seem to be missing the Mawiti battle between HP and Fimbul. Could someone give me the battle link so I can record it on post 2?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Turboflex on February 22, 2013, 04:19:26 pm
Didn't Matey post it?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 22, 2013, 04:21:06 pm
I thought matey posted the other battle. Only just now noticed I was missing Mawiti's. Gotta fix that and a few other battles. Have work now!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Haramir on February 22, 2013, 11:27:11 pm
Chevalier_sdfjkln vs HoC_Patriot_Carac
- Battle time: 22.02., 22:29
- Battle duration: 17m21s
- Army size: 779 vs 931
- Battle result: 558 vs 347
- Winner: Attacker
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 22, 2013, 11:46:39 pm
Alrighty. Fully up to date all the way up to the Fimbul HP battle tomorrow morning.

The running tally on Post 2 contains all battles(of the major factions) and(if they join a side) minor factions. It's a record of the battles so if you wish you can check them yourself. It doesn't contain the first week and a half of the war though.

Also I propose a Name change from the Great NA War, to the Great Kitten Crusade, as New Zagush has been the hotbed of the war since day one.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Aztek on February 23, 2013, 01:20:33 am
The kittens were the first ones slaughtered, I give you that. But lets not draw any more attention to those furry bundles of joy, they are finally out in the fields running around happy once more, lets not invite more bloodshed on them as they have suffered enough! Zagush is now back to being a sanctuary and should be the last place attacked if any of those hostile factions have a heart! Peppo is actually nursing 2 kittens back to health as we speak, I even think he named them Keshian and Smoothy. I think because one likes to run around getting him self into trouble while having that cute innocent face when ever he gets caught, while the other one jumps from bed to bed making the other kittens do things with out them really knowing what was going on.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Peppovitch on February 23, 2013, 01:33:55 am
What Aztek said is true.  After months of death and bloodshed from almost every faction,  the kittens have been liberated!  With the little strength that my leprosy allows me,  I have nursed little Keshian and Smoothy back to health.  They were found left for dead in a bag near the creek by the horrible Norseman!  This outrage can not be left unattended,  and with God's will we shall push forward,  delivering righteous fury upon those who brought sorrow to these creatures.

Although the war has raged around the kittens since the beginning of this round,  we hope that we can push the war away from the furry fuzzballs.  The Great kitten crusade pushes forward.  Bringing justice to those heathens who would see these defenseless creatures harmed. 
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Taser on February 23, 2013, 01:56:08 am
The kittens were the first ones slaughtered, I give you that. But lets not draw any more attention to those furry bundles of joy, they are finally out in the fields running around happy once more, lets not invite more bloodshed on them as they have suffered enough! Zagush is now back to being a sanctuary and should be the last place attacked if any of those hostile factions have a heart! Peppo is actually nursing 2 kittens back to health as we speak, I even think he named them Keshian and Smoothy. I think because one likes to run around getting him self into trouble while having that cute innocent face when ever he gets caught, while the other one jumps from bed to bed making the other kittens do things with out them really knowing what was going on.
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What Aztek said is true.  After months of death and bloodshed from almost every faction,  the kittens have been liberated!  With the little strength that my leprosy allows me,  I have nursed little Keshian and Smoothy back to health.  They were found left for dead in a bag near the creek by the horrible Norseman!  This outrage can not be left unattended,  and with God's will we shall push forward,  delivering righteous fury upon those who brought sorrow to these creatures.

Although the war has raged around the kittens since the beginning of this round,  we hope that we can push the war away from the furry fuzzballs.  The Great kitten crusade pushes forward.  Bringing justice to those heathens who would see these defenseless creatures harmed. 

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Just some fun hospitibros. Also Zagush will come back under NH rule. The kittens will learn discipline and the art of throwing catnip.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Artyem on February 23, 2013, 04:41:57 am
Fuck YOU Astralis!


:P


P.S.

The brave warriors of Fimbulvetr aren't losses, they're just going to Valhalla to get ready for the end of times.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Muki on February 23, 2013, 05:45:26 am
Add 800 to deserters for hero party it seems that what their calling me at least
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 23, 2013, 06:10:04 am
Time to Welcome Astralis to the war.

Unsure whether HP should remain a faction in this war anymore, as it's completely been broken into pieces.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: arowaine on February 23, 2013, 06:24:59 am
hp isnt over just been renamed ss that it so the remnant of hero party is ss now as far as i know....
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 23, 2013, 06:36:10 am
hp isnt over just been renamed ss that it so the remnant of hero party is ss now as far as i know....

There's now 3 HP remnants.,
HP's remnants of 14 players and 2 fiefs, Blackzilla's faction controlling 2 fiefs, and then Exile who's a 1 man faction that was part of HP and is now independent, for a slight length of time.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Artyem on February 23, 2013, 06:59:32 am
hp isnt over just been renamed ss that it so the remnant of hero party is ss now as far as i know....

They certainly proved to be effective allies!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: SHinOCk on February 23, 2013, 08:53:04 am
They certainly proved to be effective allies!

Maybe they are trolling hardcore and are not reliable with troops but they sure as shit bring the best mercs you could hope for out there and that is partly why we have been so successful so far.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Smoothrich on February 23, 2013, 10:11:18 am
They certainly proved to be effective allies!

Occitan have been the best allies any of us could ask for, and most of our clan members are willing to fight until our last army to make a stand with Occitan and take on insurmountable odds.  Some others are more afraid of losing internet land and fighting to hold it so they betray the faction and leave for their selfish internet horseland goals.  That's the price of taking on a mega-alliance and sticking with your allies whatever the odds.

I'd rather go down fighting with friends then leaving in the middle of a war that might go bad, and just about everyone who shows up to our battles and helps out the strat faction has enough fun to stick it out, the Semenstorm regulars, who aren't going anywhere.  To others its just a facebook farmville game, and a bunch of people I tried to keep loosely organized (and generously offered land and help along with Occitan) so everyone could have fun are only interested enough in holding on to what they have for purple text or for roleplaying purposes or Dreams of Internet Power or whatever it is.

No hard feelings to people, but Hero Party can be officially referred to as Semenstorm now, and people unwilling to make the change are now Strategus enemies working to ensure Ss and Occitan lose against everyone else in NA and will be dealt with accordingly.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Artyem on February 23, 2013, 10:23:38 am
You have Hospi and Astralis on your side now, which makes it about 2x as difficult to win for us :)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Smoothrich on February 23, 2013, 10:29:29 am
You have Hospi and Astralis on your side now, which makes it about 2x as difficult to win for us :)

Everyone who left in the past couple weeks were people who literally are inactive in Strategus and usually cRPG too and have no idea how the war is going, and don't even show up to merc for battles.  They all think we are almost completely wiped out and Occitan is over, even though everything has been fun and rather close and probably lots and lots more battles to go in the future.

That is what is most disappointing, is that people think war is Bad because they haven't seen how fun some of the battles can be, and would rather AFK in their fiefs in 1 man factions helping no one then be part of a war in the community that everyone can enjoy.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Artyem on February 23, 2013, 10:53:01 am
That is what is most disappointing, is that people think war is Bad because they haven't seen how fun some of the battles can be, and would rather AFK in their fiefs in 1 man factions helping no one then be part of a war in the community that everyone can enjoy.

That is true, I'll give you that, while I hate wars between large mega alliances (what we have now) I have to admit that this one has been pretty fun.  I wish we could have had more smaller wars, but I guess it'll always be destined to happen with how large some of the factions were this round.

With all of these bugs and glitches going on, I just wish they'd restart Strategus, but it's evident that they don't really care about it anymore.  Praise the Battlegrounds!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Tanken on February 23, 2013, 06:17:50 pm
Only one big battle tonight on a Saturday? I am disappoint community, very disappoint.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Commodore_Axephante on February 23, 2013, 08:59:02 pm
Only one big battle tonight on a Saturday? I am disappoint community, very disappoint.

One, if they let you in. For the rest of us?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 25, 2013, 12:16:34 am
Alrighty. Hero Party has been removed from active war status and been replaced as Semenstorm.

Some other minor updates. No battles today so it'll be a quiet day today and tomorrow for me.

Just a friendly reminder: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 28, 2013, 03:37:45 pm
And we got some nice battles now!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: oprah_winfrey on February 28, 2013, 03:50:40 pm
And we got some nice battles now!

Yeah, I decided to retire instead of going to 32 because the war seemed to be dying down. Of course now that I am level 18, its picking back up again.

PS: Everyone should hire me.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 01, 2013, 06:11:00 pm
WE got some wars now.

Going to include minor wars under their own sections now. The more we see we lose the more xp everyone learns they got! 8-)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Syls on March 03, 2013, 06:25:08 am
Wait how did we gained 3k more dead than them when we've been killing a lots more of them in the past few battles?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Sir_Winston_Churchill on March 03, 2013, 06:33:30 am
One thing to clarify, did you include the Fimbultumvetr (or however the hell it's spelled) casualties from the war against Teutonic in our casualties? I know at least 2k of our casualties were from that "minor" war and not the Great War.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on March 03, 2013, 06:50:27 am
Can we just do hero party losses in semenstorm already - it was just a way to do a fief transfer by attacking in the middle of a city being assaulted by enemies.  90% of the same players - they lost a couple afks, 2 joined us and everybody else from hero party just reformed into semenstorm.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Aztek on March 03, 2013, 06:05:10 pm
Can we just do hero party losses in semenstorm already - it was just a way to do a fief transfer by attacking in the middle of a city being assaulted by enemies.  90% of the same players - they lost a couple afks, 2 joined us and everybody else from hero party just reformed into semenstorm.

Translation = I want to look far superior and flex my ego muscles to these nerds opposing us, anything that makes us look worse IN ANY WAY must be squashed and turned around! As if no one has the brains to do the correlation between HP and semenstorm you must point it out for me on this post as I am the mighty Keshian! ... Roar!!!

Giving ya a chance to get me closer to -50 Kesh  :P
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Artyem on March 03, 2013, 06:32:27 pm
Translation = I want to look far superior and flex my ego muscles to these nerds opposing us, anything that makes us look worse IN ANY WAY must be squashed and turned around! As if no one has the brains to do the correlation between HP and semenstorm you must point it out for me on this post as I am the mighty Keshian! ... Roar!!!

Giving ya a chance to get me closer to -50 Kesh  :P

I can help with that too!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on March 03, 2013, 07:40:20 pm
Translation = I want to look far superior and flex my ego muscles to these nerds opposing us, anything that makes us look worse IN ANY WAY must be squashed and turned around! As if no one has the brains to do the correlation between HP and semenstorm you must point it out for me on this post as I am the mighty Keshian! ... Roar!!!

Giving ya a chance to get me closer to -50 Kesh  :P

Rage much?  I was just asking for accuracy, seems silly to pretend its a new faction and its previous losses don't count.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 03, 2013, 08:50:42 pm
One thing to clarify, did you include the Fimbultumvetr (or however the hell it's spelled) casualties from the war against Teutonic in our casualties? I know at least 2k of our casualties were from that "minor" war and not the Great War.

No

Wait how did we gained 3k more dead than them when we've been killing a lots more of them in the past few battles?

It should be a 2 instead of a 5. Typed it out wrong.(The individual factions are ALWAYS correct, but the sums are off sometimes)

Rage much?  I was just asking for accuracy, seems silly to pretend its a new faction and its previous losses don't count.
Notice if you look at the roster, I never said that Hero Party's casualties didn't matter. I haven't done LL's from last night, nor HP's defence against VE. I have made HP "Now Defunct" and Added underneath SS "Took over HP", and in the overall block count, you can see that it's still HP(SS) on the block side.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on March 03, 2013, 09:02:20 pm
Good job w/ keeping track of this shit, Anders. It's cool to see all this info in one place.

thx
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 05, 2013, 05:33:32 am
Ok going to move Teutonic and LL into Major faction's for the war now.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Arathian on March 05, 2013, 05:49:22 am
Ok going to move Teutonic and LL into Major faction's for the war now.

Good idea
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: arowaine on March 05, 2013, 10:59:30 am
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2726

battle last nigth
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 05, 2013, 05:14:28 pm
Alrighty. Updated.

Also added in a spreadsheet version you can view too if you don't want to read the front page.

With LL and teutonic added, Blue block is now 11500 more tickets lost than Red block.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: The_Slim on March 06, 2013, 03:46:08 am
Awesome job man with how you have done this topic. 

3 Lost Legion/Teutonic battles today

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2736
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2735
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2734


2 very small ones(don't know if you put these on or not)
 http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2738
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2737

Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 06, 2013, 04:13:18 am
Awesome job man with how you have done this topic. 

3 Lost Legion/Teutonic battles today

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2736
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2735
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2734


2 very small ones(don't know if you put these on or not)
 http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2738
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2737

Top battles will be recorded at some point.

The bottom 2 are not(to small to really count).

Don't forget, you can see the battles that I haven't done in the area BELOW main post. There's a battle list with ALL battles!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 07, 2013, 01:34:28 am
Ok Up to date, Minus the last 2 battles for today.

Something to note: Fimbulveter hasn't had any action for like 1 week +!

Casualties have dipped to nearly a 10k difference.

Will update later today after VE v LCO battles today.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Turboflex on March 07, 2013, 04:05:58 am
We were expecting a big assault by Hospitaller. Guess they pussed out.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Blackzilla on March 07, 2013, 04:27:12 am
We were expecting a big assault by Hospitaller. Guess they pussed out.
Says the guy who is hiding in his fiefs.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Wesleysnipes on March 07, 2013, 05:19:21 am
Good job keeping this thread up to date. Take away GoW because they left us and take away KoJ because they no longer exist :(. It is just Teutonic.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 07, 2013, 05:23:03 am
Good job keeping this thread up to date. Take away GoW because they left us and take away KoJ because they no longer exist :(. It is just Teutonic.

Right O, I'm not a Diplo keeper, but I try and keep the factions correct!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Artyem on March 07, 2013, 05:41:33 am
Says the guy who is hiding in his fiefs.

We were expecting a big assault by Hospitaller.

What are we supposed to do?  Our resources are limited and we're facing a much larger enemy with very limited support from our allies.  I don't think we called you out for hiding in your fiefs when FCC was attacking, so hop off our dicks BRO.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on March 07, 2013, 10:34:56 am
You could always throw a rebellion and fief trans... attack your own fiefs when defending your fiefs no longer seems doable; that's what zilla would do.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Arathian on March 07, 2013, 11:52:45 am
You could always throw a rebellion and fief trans... attack your own fiefs when defending your fiefs no longer seems doable; that's what zilla would do.

Good idea, I think we should cause a rebellion in the hospitaler lands. Make this hilarious.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Aderyn on March 07, 2013, 12:44:06 pm
We were expecting a big assault by Hospitaller. Guess they pussed out.

We're busy frolicking the kittens in zagush.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 07, 2013, 07:33:22 pm
We secured the kittens, we're good
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: oprah_winfrey on March 07, 2013, 07:42:15 pm
What are we supposed to do?  Our resources are limited and we're facing a much larger enemy with very limited support from our allies.  I don't think we called you out for hiding in your fiefs when FCC was attacking, so hop off our dicks BRO.

Actually fcc called them out on it multipke times.

Also, it seems like fcc is still attacking them,which almost certainly has to do with them not attacking you.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Artyem on March 08, 2013, 03:12:17 am
Actually fcc called them out on it multipke times.

We're not FCC, get your shit straight.

Also, it seems like fcc is still attacking them,which almost certainly has to do with them not attacking you.

I highly doubt it, judging by the massive armies they still patrol with over here.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Tanken on March 08, 2013, 06:54:46 am
In honor of the brave souls whom had their lives taken in an instant, I felt it was only honorable that we give them respect now.


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May god rest your souls, and may Maple Syrup be forever punished in the deepest pits of hell for crimes against his own brothers-in-arms.
Amen.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Canary on March 08, 2013, 07:26:54 am
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In case you were wondering what kind of points value that gives you.

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With want for master Jaren of The Kingdom of Veluca.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Muki on March 08, 2013, 07:52:00 am
lmao what the hell happen there
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Jaren on March 08, 2013, 07:56:53 am
Wow... GF Maple!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Tanken on March 08, 2013, 09:00:35 am
lmao what the hell happen there

Maple didn't push the block back before firing, so the catapult shot came right down on the shield wall in front of the catapult. Canadians... always with the friendly fire.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Krosis on March 08, 2013, 09:05:48 am
lmao what the hell happen there

Pro catapulter... all HS too.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Commodore_Axephante on March 08, 2013, 07:21:50 pm
Thank god I wasn't let into that fight. I could have been one of those poor bastards. Hey yeah, that's the attitude - i'm just missing out on all the pain.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Jack1 on March 09, 2013, 12:49:10 am
Anders, you should take the numbers from our minor faction and put it into our major faction part or vise versa?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 09, 2013, 01:36:29 am
Anders, you should take the numbers from our minor faction and put it into our major faction part or vise versa?

Hum? Oh you mean the Tuetonic Minor? That was a irrelevant gangbang NOT a part of the grand war(as it was actually fought BEFORE the Great war).

And it'll throw off the Block numbers as I don't have the counter numbers for it(aka Blue takes a 10k increase in losses for no reason).

It's just from an old war long gone.

If you mean another minor please inform me.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on March 11, 2013, 05:45:29 pm
Anders here are all the battles March 6th and onwards if you want to update your numbers.  Though i am missing a VE fight last night where they were defending a village - I know it happened, i was there, but its not showing up on my participated battles list.  At this point blue and red bloc should be equal now.


Last 2 Hosp v FCC
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2808 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2808)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2740 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2740)

All the LL v FCC
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2792 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2792)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2795 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2795)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2793 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2793)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2780 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2780)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2768 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2768)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2750 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2750)

The village assault where we capped flags we actually gained 500 tickets overall and they lost 1890, for calculation purposes if you want to calculate based on captured tickets.

The 2 astralis battles
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2794 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2794)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2778 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2778)

The last few occitan battles
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2806 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2806) (blue side gained 500 tickets overall from that battle red side lost 2770)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2779 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2779)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2767 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2767)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2752 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2752)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2751 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2751)

Last semenstorm battle
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2791 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2791)

The ones happening later today:
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=2818 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=2818)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=2820 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=2820)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=2819 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=2819)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: oprah_winfrey on March 11, 2013, 05:55:05 pm
Last semenstorm battle
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2791 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2791)

Just to clarify, all the troops/gear that we lost in this battle were returned.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 11, 2013, 09:07:23 pm
Just to clarify, all the troops/gear that we lost in this battle were returned.

Wait he fully refunded your armies? Well that's mighty nice! Now he's going to come and buy shit tons more from me, great. Perhaps I'll need to charge him more for a bit :wink:

Also
@Kesh:
If you notice, I have a running list there of ALL battles below the second post(for refrence, etc). And I haven't updated as I've been preping for my midterm, which I just took so I have to get around to updating it here soon. Probably in about 10 minutes.

Also, I count losses as EVERYTHING the attacker(or defender) loses. In terms of flag caps, that a loss of full army of defenders that they would HAVE to fight(as in it now becomes enemy tickets). So Flag capping a village doesn't ADD to attackers, it just hurts defender's losses as they would have to then become attackers and kill those tickets or fight against them at a later date.

Alright!

Updated:
So by occitan putting 2770 tickets inside that castle it cost them nearly ALL the leeway in tickets that they have had through out this war. Net average dropped from roughly 11k down to 8.5k difference. In other words, Blue in 8 battles gained(or forced red to lose) 2.5k tickets.

Also For being pretty good, occitan just made a blunder at Caraf of EXTREME portions. Giving your enemy 1000 tickets?.......(even if it WAS population, that's insane!)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: ROHYPNOL on March 11, 2013, 09:32:53 pm
Anders here are all the battles March 6th and onwards if you want to update your numbers.  Though i am missing a VE fight last night where they were defending a village - I know it happened, i was there, but its not showing up on my participated battles list.  At this point blue and red bloc should be equal now.


Last 2 Hosp v FCC
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2808 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2808)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2740 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2740)

All the LL v FCC
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2792 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2792)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2795 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2795)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2793 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2793)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2780 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2780)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2768 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2768)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2750 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2750)

The village assault where we capped flags we actually gained 500 tickets overall and they lost 1890, for calculation purposes if you want to calculate based on captured tickets.

The 2 astralis battles
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2794 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2794)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2778 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2778)

The last few occitan battles
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2806 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2806) (blue side gained 500 tickets overall from that battle red side lost 2770)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2779 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2779)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2767 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2767)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2752 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2752)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2751 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2751)

Last semenstorm battle
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2791 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2791)

The ones happening later today:
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=2818 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=2818)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=2820 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=2820)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=2819 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=2819)

To be fair, the Ss battle ascalon and I had worked out a deal, so I intent retreated only to get all my gear back and + sum. If you want to tally up flawed stats by all means go ahead. If it makes you feel better.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 11, 2013, 09:38:37 pm
To be fair, the Ss battle ascalon and I had worked out a deal, so I intent retreated only to get all my gear back and + sum. If you want to tally up flawed stats by all means go ahead. If it makes you feel better.

I am not. I was unsure as you retreated which ment a deal was being worked out, and since you got your army back, or most of it, I will not be counting it in the losses. Had I NOT known this, it would have been accounted as a loss.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on March 11, 2013, 10:08:57 pm
To be fair, the Ss battle ascalon and I had worked out a deal, so I intent retreated only to get all my gear back and + sum. If you want to tally up flawed stats by all means go ahead. If it makes you feel better.

Lol so many semenstorm reacted - all I did was post battle listings fro last 5 days. lol.  Its just a game guys.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: ROHYPNOL on March 11, 2013, 10:15:02 pm
Lol so many semenstorm reacted - all I did was post battle listings fro last 5 days. lol.  Its just a game guys.

That was my 2nd post in deplomacy, it must show something. Reguardless of who reacted and why, it is the truth, so who cares? Just generally making a statement.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Smoothrich on March 11, 2013, 10:15:06 pm
Lol so many semenstorm reacted - all I did was post battle listings fro last 5 days. lol.  Its just a game guys.

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Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: oprah_winfrey on March 11, 2013, 10:16:33 pm
Lol so many semenstorm reacted - all I did was post battle listings fro last 5 days. lol.  Its just a game guys.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOO MANNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Commodore_Axephante on March 11, 2013, 11:30:01 pm
None of you have a clear stance from which to say "lol it's just a game guys", and some of you are kidding yourselves if you act like you don't jump all over every update and post that Anders puts in here.

Let the war speak for itself. Then and only then will this be, in the best of ways, "just a game". Or, let your shit-talking be about the war. Not each other's RL pastimes. Because guess what, they're the same. You all realize that, don't you? You all put in huge amounts of hours per week doing the same thing. If this were one of those dating sites that ranks your compatibility, you'd all be at the top of one anothers' lists.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on March 12, 2013, 04:04:21 am
Or, let your shit-talking be about the war. Not each other's RL pastimes. Because guess what, they're the same. You all realize that, don't you? You all put in huge amounts of hours per week doing the same thing. If this were one of those dating sites that ranks your compatibility, you'd all be at the top of one anothers' lists.

New sig? Gold, pure gold.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on March 17, 2013, 10:47:18 pm
Updated! Back to war start casulty differences(aka 8k)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Goretooth on March 18, 2013, 02:44:10 am
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

lol
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on March 19, 2013, 05:20:38 am
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2916 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2916)

Not sure if you got this one since it was only 300 or so on each side.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 19, 2013, 05:33:38 am
Always check Post #2. It has the "Battle List" of battles I record. If it's there, I got it, or will get it. I do believe that one is already one there.
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Post by: Taser on March 19, 2013, 11:31:38 am
Very cool of you to do this anders. Nice to see the amount of losses that have occurred. This actually seems like a great war. Almost 200k dead overall.

This is just tickets though... I wonder what the gold loss is in terms of weapons, armor, etc... probably tens of millions.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on March 19, 2013, 12:09:02 pm
I imagine the cost is huge.

Tho at least one clan has been able to augment their armies with the bugged dupe gear.
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Post by: Smoothrich on March 19, 2013, 12:26:23 pm
I imagine the cost is huge.

Tho at least one clan has been able to augment their armies with the bugged dupe gear.

Yep, that's Frisia for you.  Wouldn't be surprised if they bumped a few dozen million gold up to their liege lords FCC either.  Considering you guys brag about being as smaller or smaller than Semenstorm, there's basically no other way for you to have so many geared out troops then cheating.  Thanks for the confirmation :thumbs up:
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Post by: BaleOhay on March 19, 2013, 01:01:45 pm
Poor frisia. Likely the only clan to do the right thing in regards to the equipment dupe.
Fcc has an organized trading system. Small size hurts troop production not gold production. All of our gold and equipment has been earned



Smooth back from muted and still has never met a lie he does not love. Would have thought flinging around racial slurs would get you muted for a bit longer than that.

Wonder how many mutes it takes till perma silence.
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Post by: oprah_winfrey on March 19, 2013, 01:34:36 pm
and still has never met a lie he does not love.

Your side isnt much better in this aspect lol.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on March 19, 2013, 01:39:27 pm
I can only control myself. I am willing to bet people do not always like what i say but I tell the truth from my point of view without making stuff up for the hell of it.
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Post by: oprah_winfrey on March 19, 2013, 02:02:57 pm
I can only control myself. I am willing to bet people do not always like what i say but I tell the truth from my point of view without making stuff up for the hell of it.

So what clan are you accusing of using the duped gear/gold?
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Post by: BaleOhay on March 19, 2013, 02:06:18 pm
Occitan was given the Merry Chadmus gift from a fief fight against VE.

Frisia also got it. They started the talk about the bug. And it is easy to find the solution they decided on. At this point I would tell them to go for it guys. Not stopping anyone else.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 19, 2013, 02:18:10 pm
I can only control myself. I am willing to bet people do not always like what i say but I tell the truth from my point of view without making stuff up for the hell of it.

Is that so?  Then to claim we started the war with FCC is ridiculous (from the Injustice diplomacy thread).  You were sending an army up through the mountains from Semenstorm territory up towards dusturil.  Attacking people who enter our closed borders is not starting a war, and we even said so at the time "we're attacking an army you are sending through our lands, if you want to go to war over it, that's on FCC, but we're not declaring war on you"  And then you magically had armies ready to storm in through Sungetche with Remnant.  How convenient...
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Post by: oprah_winfrey on March 19, 2013, 02:31:32 pm
Occitan was given the Merry Chadmus gift from a fief fight against VE.

Frisia also got it. They started the talk about the bug. And it is easy to find the solution they decided on. At this point I would tell them to go for it guys. Not stopping anyone else.

I'm just confused on why you think occitan is using the gear but you are convinced that frisia isn't.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on March 19, 2013, 02:32:46 pm
That was a kesh plan. Put an guy near your lands (he was not in your lands) and see if you guys attack. You did attack, which kicked off the war.
Starting it and wanting it to happen are completely different things.



This is not the thread for this sort of stuff. And most of it has been beaten to death.


--- Occitan is using the gear. I do not think they deny that. Frisia to the last of my knowledge sold everything and put the money on an AFk in a castle. That stance from them may have changed. That was the last information I have on the subject.

If it matters occitan was told nothing devs can do about it. So they are welcome to use the equipment. Same for frisia.

I can tell you that FCC has not been so lucky with gifts from the gods.
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Post by: oprah_winfrey on March 19, 2013, 02:41:40 pm


--- Occitan is using the gear. I do not think they deny that. Frisia to the last of my knowledge sold everything and put the money on an AFk in a castle. That stance from them may have changed. That was the last information I have on the subject.

If it matters occitan was told nothing devs can do about it. So they are welcome to use the equipment. Same for frisia.

Quote from: Shinock
I don`t wanna use that bug since were not that kind of clan and i think some of these things have already been sold before i got to know about the issue so it would be really appreciated if someone in charge could do something about this.

It's possible the gold from the broken gear that was sold before they realized what was going on is being used, but it seems as though they don't have intentions on using it. Hell, if they were why would they post about it in the first place?
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Post by: BaleOhay on March 19, 2013, 02:54:47 pm
That was an older post from Shinock, I believe they were told nothing can be done about it and go ahead and use it without dev issues.
Shinock is an honest guy (and still friendly with me) ask him if they are using the equipment. If he says no then I will believe it and retract my statement with an apology.

I am not even complaining about it at this point. It was a lucky break for some clans. I was originaly just responding to Tasers qoute asking how much in equipment/cash has been used this strat. The numbers on the issue will be very confused based on the bug.

Very cool of you to do this anders. Nice to see the amount of losses that have occurred. This actually seems like a great war. Almost 200k dead overall.

This is just tickets though... I wonder what the gold loss is in terms of weapons, armor, etc... probably tens of millions.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 19, 2013, 02:56:52 pm
That was a kesh plan. Put an guy near your lands (he was not in your lands) and see if you guys attack. You did attack, which kicked off the war.
Starting it and wanting it to happen are completely different things.



Like we're going to let a faction that's been hostile the whole version of strategus 4 send an army into a village?  We tracked him heading from the desert straight north and his path would have put him right in the steppe. 

It was obviously a ploy to make FCC look like the victims while being the aggressor the whole time.  That is why I am saying you're at minimum being extremely facetious, or outright lying.  Which goes against your statement you made about always telling the truth.
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Post by: Havoco on March 19, 2013, 03:06:10 pm
Like we're going to let a faction that's been hostile the whole version of strategus 4 send an army into a village?  We tracked him heading from the desert straight north and his path would have put him right in the steppe. 

It was obviously a ploy to make FCC look like the victims while being the aggressor the whole time.  That is why I am saying you're at minimum being extremely facetious, or outright lying.  Which goes against your statement you made about always telling the truth.

We were already at war before this weren't we? Didn't the war kick off when FCC attacked vayejeg? Afaik we didn't make a truce since then.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on March 19, 2013, 04:22:17 pm
I can only control myself. I am willing to bet people do not always like what i say but I tell the truth from my point of view without making stuff up for the hell of it.

I am being honest. We planted a guy on your border in hopes you would attack him to win the hearts and minds of the forum war. You attacked him which was the catalyst for our current hosp/fcc battles. I do not think anyone is upset we are fighting. Sort of the point of the game.

None of that is a lie. Just because I did not come out while were doing it and post hey everybody!! we want hosp to attack us. Is not in the same ballpark of 90% of the trash smoothrich spouts out.. FCC are all sharing accounts, frisia gives us duped gold, etc.

If you guys want to get a new thread to discuss stuff that is fine or if you want to keep trying to change the subject from who is using the duped equipment that is also fine. This thread is not really the place for either anyway. 
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on March 19, 2013, 05:22:43 pm
i thought we had been at war since we went to save hero party from hosp.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on March 19, 2013, 10:41:55 pm
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I like how two factions can literally have exactly identical stances to how they handle a bug, but the one that is your ally you assume innocence and the one that is your enemy you assume guilt. I suppose BaleoHay is doing the same thing. Either way it's stupid. We're simply not using that gold/gear. FCC is not in possession of it as well.
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Post by: Smoothrich on March 19, 2013, 11:27:36 pm
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I like how two factions can literally have exactly identical stances to how they handle a bug, but the one that is your ally you assume innocence and the one that is your enemy you assume guilt. I suppose BaleoHay is doing the same thing.

You have almost cracked my posting code.  Please don't share your Enigma Cipher Smoothrich Cryptology file with any FCC (or Sanderson) or it will ruin everything.
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Post by: Goretooth on March 19, 2013, 11:41:14 pm
Lol last two pages of this thread FCC Don't tell lies and they don't exploit nor do their vassals but everYone else does. 
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: arowaine on March 20, 2013, 12:17:24 am
That was an older post from Shinock, I believe they were told nothing can be done about it and go ahead and use it without dev issues.
Shinock is an honest guy (and still friendly with me) ask him if they are using the equipment. If he says no then I will believe it and retract my statement with an apology.

I am not even complaining about it at this point. It was a lucky break for some clans. I was originaly just responding to Tasers qoute asking how much in equipment/cash has been used this strat. The numbers on the issue will be very confused based on the bug.


still have the dupe western horse in the fief !We have not used them stil and also just sold all the equipements at that time when chadz told us there is nothing to do to fix it....do like everyone and sell it or use it! We sold it. maybe kept some since was imspossbile to know exactly how much was really left so probably have a bit less or more then what we should.

over 22 milion on our side has been spend in strat as gold on the equipement from the begining of the war on na.War include nh/frisia/fcc/ve/bird.

ps: to bad they havent wipe strat at that time too bug was due to server patching.
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Post by: Hobb on March 20, 2013, 12:25:53 am

still have the dupe western horse in the fief !We have not used them stil and also just sold all the equipements at that time when chadz told us there is nothing to do to fix it....do like everyone and sell it or use it! We sold it. maybe kept some since was imspossbile to know exactly how much was really left so probably have a bit less or more then what we should.

over 22 milion on our side has been spend in strat as gold on the equipement from the begining of the war on na.War include nh/frisia/fcc/ve/bird.

ps: to bad they havent wipe strat at that time too bug was due to server patching.


lol just maybe eh?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on March 20, 2013, 01:20:04 am
Anders I didn't see he 200 man defense of Dashbigha in your list - was actually kind of curious on the outcome against the 1800 man army.  Thanks.
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Post by: Taser on March 20, 2013, 01:31:13 am
I wonder how much gold was spent and then people be accusing each other of glitch abusing. YAY. Should have seen that coming though.

Seriously though, that would screw up the amount of gold spent a lot. However I am still curious. I know VE spends quite a bit especially since we got very good traders and trade routes but I was curious how much the total might be for Ve, Hosp, FCC, Occitan, Frisian, NH-->now Ravens, LL, etc. Lot of players in the war.
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Post by: arowaine on March 20, 2013, 01:44:14 am
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look above for occitan/chev
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 20, 2013, 01:50:47 am
Anders I didn't see he 200 man defense of Dashbigha in your list - was actually kind of curious on the outcome against the 1800 man army.  Thanks.

Ah Well I might have missed it. Would appreciate a link!
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Post by: Sandersson Jankins on March 20, 2013, 02:46:53 am
Ah Well I might have missed it. Would appreciate a link!

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=2927

It was fun. Got 55 of em!
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Post by: oprah_winfrey on March 20, 2013, 04:23:27 am
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I like how two factions can literally have exactly identical stances to how they handle a bug, but the one that is your ally you assume innocence and the one that is your enemy you assume guilt. I suppose BaleoHay is doing the same thing. Either way it's stupid. We're simply not using that gold/gear. FCC is not in possession of it as well.

It makes sense, that you would have a better read on the people that you are closer to. And just to clarify, personally I don't think you guys are using the gear either. In my few interactions with sandy, he seemed like a pretty cool guy (even if he did take JABONRAs castle), so I doubt he would be one to abuse it.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Taser on March 20, 2013, 06:25:51 am

look above for occitan/chev

22 mil? Snap. Wonder how much VE has spent. Then there's FCC and Hosp who have spent a ton of gold as well.

Next strat I'm being the damn blacksmith. That guy is getting rich off these wars.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Artyem on March 20, 2013, 07:00:17 am
Turbo and I both talked about maybe trying to get Sandy to let us use the duped gear and gold in case it became dire.  However, Sandersson is quite adamant about not using any of the duplicated gear and gold, I think maybe some of the gear was sold but it was done by a rogue member and we at most profited 100 - 200k out of it.

Even if Occitan is using duplicated gold or gear, I don't think any less of them because of it.  They're currently getting their anuses relentlessly pounded by the Velucan Empire and no one has said that it's against the rules to use duplicated gear for personal benefit.

Just to avoid any other cluster fuck, I'd like to state that my own personal opinion of other players (not like it really matters) has nothing to do with what they actually do in game, but how they treat other people in general, whether that be on the forums or in game.
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Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on March 20, 2013, 11:50:18 am
To clarify, the admins actually told us that we COULD use our duplicated gear if we wanted to. They explicitly refrained from saying it would be illegal to use it. We still have not used it.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 20, 2013, 02:24:13 pm
Just use the damn duped gear and give me moar xp prz.  I'm not going to be butt hurt about it
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 20, 2013, 03:25:20 pm
You know how everyone has that stalker that +/-'s them regardless of what they post?

Seems like I got one.

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Only person to -'s this thread all cause he's mah stalker(He -'s almost all my other posts too). Pretty weird, actually. Didn't think I was stalker worthy. Guess he has a bone to pick....

Also, Chinese attacked Kedelke! FEAR THE CHINESE HORDE! I do Wonder how well they will do, considering the massive time difference.
More battles today, lots of good XP, and more meat for the meat grinder. Looks like I'll be updating the front page later today.
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Post by: Artyem on March 20, 2013, 03:29:25 pm
The Chinese are actually a SemenStorm proxy, they've been mass recruiting troops and getting gold for them for awhile now.

Or at least that's what my anonymous source says  8-)
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Post by: Lt_Anders on March 20, 2013, 03:34:13 pm
The Chinese are actually a SemenStorm proxy, they've been mass recruiting troops and getting gold for them for awhile now.

Or at least that's what my anonymous source says  8-)

Heh, if I said I knew this would happen, would I be a Nostradamus?

So, this isn't a surprise, to me, or to anyone, that they attacked something. I mean, they've had like what 6000 shiney troops for months now? It was only a matter of time before they went after SOMEONE for land.  Though if we look at it properly, in terms of recruiting, the chinese clans are actually really good at strat. They've had a HUGE standing army and no fief for  a long, long time. You gotta recognize skill there.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BADPLAYER_old2 on March 20, 2013, 03:40:13 pm
The Chinese are actually a SemenStorm proxy, they've been mass recruiting troops and getting gold for them for awhile now.

Or at least that's what my anonymous source says  8-)

Eh not really, that army gear included is actually all mine that I gave to them since I didn't want to keep playing Strategus.
I taught them how to play strategus abit, told them to trade in hero party/hosp/occitan lands and told those guys not to attack them, but otherwise they have just been doing their own thing for a while since I told them to just have some fun.
Smoothrich and co actually wanted to attack them since they just "leech s&d without helping" but never bothered to yet.

Most of the players in their strategus faction don't really understand strat too well, what with it being in english and all so they are stuck at 100troops which is unfortunate and also means they only have a couple actively doing trading.

Basically what i'm trying to say is these are just some dudes trying to have fun in Strategus, don't group them as "gold/troop farmers" since I made sure that they would just do what they found fun instead of being AFK farmers for a bunch of nerds(even if it's what some people wanted them to do)


As for why they attacked- i'm not sure because I haven't talked to them in a while since strategus is tedious and boring, considering the teamspeak is astralis one though I would guess the person who speaks mandarin in astralis (sorry I forgot your name) contacted them about helping to take down NH, but that is just a guess.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 20, 2013, 03:46:14 pm
As for why they attacked- i'm not sure because I haven't talked to them in a while since strategus is tedious and boring, considering the teamspeak is astralis one though I would guess the person who speaks mandarin in astralis (sorry I forgot your name) contacted them about helping to take down NH, but that is just a guess.

Really? Huh, probably Army cook, who's actually ANGEVIN now, I think? I'm not sure, but he's our resident Chinese speaker. We Also got Two Vietnamese fella's in our TS. Quite a few people in astralis who know multiple languages. We had a guy(before he joined the army) who spoke Russian and English(him being russian and all...), Bull I'm sure knows Spanish, considering his heritage.

But yea, I guess I gotta set up TS for that battle then. Hm...wonder if any other admins will be on, argh.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Zaren on March 20, 2013, 04:02:26 pm
Really? Huh, probably Army cook, who's actually ANGEVIN now, I think? I'm not sure, but he's our resident Chinese speaker. We Also got Two Vietnamese fella's in our TS. Quite a few people in astralis who know multiple languages. We had a guy(before he joined the army) who spoke Russian and English(him being russian and all...), Bull I'm sure knows Spanish, considering his heritage.

But yea, I guess I gotta set up TS for that battle then. Hm...wonder if any other admins will be on, argh.
Pretty sure Army Cook is Astralis considering his name is army_cook_astralis or something like that.
Also I highly doubt he went himself to go gather support.....
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Post by: Lt_Anders on March 20, 2013, 04:22:37 pm
Pretty sure Army Cook is Astralis considering his name is army_cook_astralis or something like that.
Also I highly doubt he went himself to go gather support.....

Well Yesterday he was using Angevin Star Cook as his character(a HA) so I thought he Changed clans.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 21, 2013, 04:25:51 am
Double post, oh well :oops:

UPDATED!
Losses have now surpassed TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND.

VE is starting to close the gap in terms of net losses. Hosp needs to stop "Throwing away Troops" (so I have heard) as you're hurting your sides statistics!

Chinese Overlords added to the Red Faction. Red Faction is starting to lose more troops per capita than Blue side. The initial 8k advantage that Red Had is now GONE! Red side is still positive, but not like they were!
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Post by: Muki on March 21, 2013, 05:13:34 am
Good to see the chinese community is also enjoying the strat fighting keep us updated Anders :)
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Post by: sdfjkln on March 21, 2013, 06:49:03 am
Good to see the chinese community is also enjoying the strat fighting keep us updated Anders :)
agreed!

An excellent first offensive! I look forward to seeing more action from the heavenly kingdom(all i care about is exp; more battles = i win)


p.s. who are heavenly kingdom?
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 21, 2013, 02:17:38 pm
they're chinese players
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on March 21, 2013, 03:18:53 pm
they're chinese players

Led by shik (who changed his name to Syikjae) and badplayer (fraichedan again)
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Post by: BADPLAYER_old2 on March 21, 2013, 03:27:48 pm
Led by shik (who changed his name to Syikjae) and badplayer (fraichedan again)

Shik and I haven't actually done much of anything except afk in fiefs for a while now... (although I did do the roster yesterday since I was asked to) We just wanted to get the Chinese community playing Strategus for real since they had posted alot on their forums about trying to play but they obviously didn't understand how to make gold and ect. We just told them how to play and I gave them my army to get started and they're doing whatever now.

Please quit trying to make it out like they are some vassals we are the puppet masters of, head over to the Chinese forums and talk to them yourself and apologize for attacking their traders ect if you wish for them to not consider you guys as hostile but otherwise can you blame them?

Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Goretooth on March 21, 2013, 03:46:44 pm
Led by shik (who changed his name to Syikjae) and badplayer (fraichedan again)
and you have no life still.  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Keshian on March 21, 2013, 03:49:53 pm
and you have no life still.  :mrgreen:

Says someone who calls himself goretooth in a video game, lol.
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Post by: Goretooth on March 21, 2013, 03:53:37 pm
Says someone who calls himself goretooth in a video game, lol.
Don't be mad I picked a better name for a video game.  8-)
Old one was Guardian.
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Post by: Smoothrich on March 21, 2013, 05:58:05 pm
Says someone who calls himself goretooth in a video game, lol.

Kesh, you're the one doing Strategus attacks at 9 AM and 12 Noon EST time on a week day on the other side of the Strat map to dick over someone at war with an FCC vassal.  You are the shining example of "why being a massive sperg is bad" and we all learn from your mistakes.  Which is about every decision you've ever made.
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Post by: Keshian on March 21, 2013, 06:10:22 pm
  You are the shining example of "why being a massive sperg is bad" and we all learn from your mistakes.

Couldn't have said it better myself - how do you enjoy not being an admin?  Or no longer being leader of  faction?  We all have learned from your mistakes.

Also, go reinforce your proxy/vassal chinese faction, namely shik, he needs help
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Post by: Shik on March 21, 2013, 06:26:54 pm
Led by shik (who changed his name to Syikjae) and badplayer (fraichedan again)
I think you'll find that the leader of Heavenly Kingdom is the most respectable YYY_Drizzle, Lord of Kedelke. His will is his own, we are merely his humble servants.

天朝萬歲,艹NND臭鼻
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Post by: Espwn on March 21, 2013, 06:46:57 pm
Kesh, you're the one doing Strategus attacks at 9 AM and 12 Noon EST time on a week day on the other side of the Strat map to dick over someone at war with an FCC vassal.  You are the shining example of "why being a massive sperg is bad" and we all learn from your mistakes.  Which is about every decision you've ever made.



Edit** Why'd you have to do it canary? WHY
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Post by: BADPLAYER_old2 on March 21, 2013, 06:58:05 pm
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Post by: Relit on March 21, 2013, 07:52:12 pm
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Please quit trying to make it out like they are some vassals we are the puppet masters of, head over to the Chinese forums and talk to them yourself and apologize for attacking their traders ect if you wish for them to not consider you guys as hostile but otherwise can you blame them?

Fimbulvetr never attacked them. We even let them travel through our lands previously, unmolested. So why did they attack us?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 21, 2013, 07:54:16 pm
Does it even matter? It's strat, make war not love!
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Post by: Relit on March 21, 2013, 07:58:23 pm
Does it even matter? It's strat, make war not love!

Im honestly just curious. They gave them equipment and pointed them at us, of all people. Closest target perhaps?
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Post by: BADPLAYER_old2 on March 21, 2013, 07:58:36 pm
Fimbulvetr never attacked them. We even let them travel through our lands previously, unmolested. So why did they attack us?

Nah you guys did.

"Badoon_of_Frisia vs Z_xj - Hide Details"
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Post by: Relit on March 21, 2013, 08:01:22 pm
Going to need details on that: Date, time, and was the person attacked in his proper strat faction? They had permission to travel through but not take S&D, so if that happened then I can see now why they were attacked.

On second thought: just toss me the battle link.
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Post by: BADPLAYER_old2 on March 21, 2013, 08:05:29 pm
Going to need details on that: Date, time, and was the person attacked in his proper strat faction? They had permission to travel through but not take S&D, so if that happened then I can see now why they were attacked.

On second thought: just toss me the battle link.

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=2431
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Post by: Relit on March 21, 2013, 08:10:18 pm
I will look into it and arrange for repayment of lost goods. Just because we are technically at war does not mean we wont pay our debts.

Im glad they are atleast getting a taste of strat. Considering the ping issues and language barrier involved.
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Post by: Sandersson Jankins on March 21, 2013, 08:13:24 pm
I will look into it and arrange for repayment of lost goods. Just because we are technically at war does not mean we wont pay our debts.

Im glad they are atleast getting a taste of strat. Considering the ping issues and language barrier involved.

He was attacked near New Reindi Castle because he was running around with 100 troops and ~700 crates. We thought he had trade goods, but he didn't have a single one.

What he did have was 5 of damn near every +3 item in EU. It was damned perplexing. Felt bad afterwards, looked like he was just collecting gear like they were trading cards or stamps or something.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Goretooth on March 22, 2013, 12:12:30 am
Couldn't have said it better myself - how do you enjoy not being an admin?  Or no longer being leader of  faction?  We all have learned from your mistakes.

Also, go reinforce your proxy/vassal chinese faction, namely shik, he needs help
bad post lol. How can you rip on someone about proxy/vassals? It's like you ripping on someone for playing too much or accusing someone of multi accounting.
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Post by: BadooN on March 22, 2013, 12:48:20 am

Nah you guys did.

"Badoon_of_Frisia vs Z_xj - Hide Details"
He was attacked near New Reindi Castle because he was running around with 100 troops and ~700 crates. We thought he had trade goods, but he didn't have a single one.

What he did have was 5 of damn near every +3 item in EU. It was damned perplexing. Felt bad afterwards, looked like he was just collecting gear like they were trading cards or stamps or something.
Damn right I attacked him, "heavenly kingdom" have taken our s&d in the past, and he did have goods, which I have in my inventory still.
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Post by: Smoothrich on March 22, 2013, 12:54:30 am
Couldn't have said it better myself - how do you enjoy not being an admin?  Or no longer being leader of  faction?

Very much.

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Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on March 22, 2013, 02:03:37 am
Damn right I attacked him, "heavenly kingdom" have taken our s&d in the past, and he did have goods, which I have in my inventory still.
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I'd believe him more than I. He was the one who actually attacked, after all. That's not to say that I didn't approve of it, of course. I just remember he was chock full of bizarre loomed gear.

It's certainly an interesting dynamic to strat, having an almost completely unknown and unpredictable faction aggressive with you. For all we know, they could have massive shiny armies ready to rain down upon us. The heavenly kingdom strat faction is pretty damn big, isn't it? If they were ALL active, they could have a fuckshitstack of troops and gold.
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Post by: Blackzilla on March 22, 2013, 02:58:37 am
Im honestly just curious. They gave them equipment and pointed them at us, of all people. Closest target perhaps?
The army that attacked Kedelke or whatever it's called by YYY_Drizzle has been a shiny army ever since he came to NA. No gear was given to the Chinese.
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Post by: Keshian on March 22, 2013, 03:25:15 am
The army that attacked Kedelke or whatever it's called by YYY_Drizzle has been a shiny army ever since he came to NA. No gear was given to the Chinese.


Hahaha, except blackzilla already admitted giving them the gear and it was all gear from the desert.  Also, Jabonra_rubes had to turn around and race 5 hours and barely reinforced shik in the heavenly kingdom in time with gear and troops - actions of someone saving a vassal.
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Post by: Goretooth on March 22, 2013, 03:27:10 am

Hahaha, except blackzilla already admitted giving them the gear and it was all gear from the desert.  Also, Jabonra_rubes had to turn around and race 5 hours and barely reinforced shik in the heavenly kingdom in time with gear and troops - actions of someone saving a vassal.
^ actions of someone that plays way too much.  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Blackzilla on March 22, 2013, 05:00:15 am

Hahaha, except blackzilla already admitted giving them the gear and it was all gear from the desert.  Also, Jabonra_rubes had to turn around and race 5 hours and barely reinforced shik in the heavenly kingdom in time with gear and troops - actions of someone saving a vassal.
Why would I give Chinese players gear? When did I admit to this? The Chinese offered me troops (which they may have gave, communication was tough between Drizzle and I, language barrier and all) But laugh all you want, and sperg all you want, especially how you watched rubes barely reinforce Shik.
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Post by: Keshian on March 22, 2013, 05:01:12 am
Why would I give Chinese players gear? When did I admit to this? The Chinese offered me troops (which they may have gave, communication was tough between Drizzle and I, language barrier and all) But laugh all you want, and sperg all you want, especially how you watched rubes barely reinforce Shik.

Lol sorry, referring to badplayer earlier, you trolls guys all seem the same to me.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Blackzilla on March 22, 2013, 05:09:59 am
Lol sorry, referring to badplayer earlier, you trolls guys all seem the same to me.
Yea I'm such a troll. Ask anyone I play this game with in TS, I'm the most laid back guy ever, only time I fuck around in TS is when you join because it's funny how easy it is to make you mad. And hey, at least I'm not constantly sperging out on this game, getting upset, going on massive bitching forum posting sprees and just you're constant complaining.

I found it hilarious at the Caraf Castle siege how you kept yelling out how " Blackzilla is a troll" and "Blackzilla is trying to sabotage our team" I got called out for this by Kesh after QMLing two FCC members (which were successful). Then you yelling for TkoV "never to hire him again." lol umad much? I actually talked to Hobb after this, and he was like"ignore him..... he gets like that sometimes" I was also doing bad for our team (in your eyes) yet I managed to go positive with 160 ping. oh well spergs gonna sperg.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Tanken on March 22, 2013, 05:12:33 am
I'm going to put all of you in a corner and make you hug it out until you're friends again.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Blackzilla on March 22, 2013, 05:13:44 am
I'm going to put all of you in a corner and make you hug it out until you're friends again.
If I met Kesh in real life, I'd give him a hug, because he obviously needs one.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on March 22, 2013, 05:19:10 am
Spregness in the super nerd thread. Perfect :twisted:
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Post by: Keshian on March 22, 2013, 05:47:43 am
Yea I'm such a troll. Ask anyone I play this game with in TS, I'm the most laid back guy ever, only time I fuck around in TS is when you join because it's funny how easy it is to make you mad. And hey, at least I'm not constantly sperging out on this game, getting upset, going on massive bitching forum posting sprees and just you're constant complaining.

I found it hilarious at the Caraf Castle siege how you kept yelling out how " Blackzilla is a troll" and "Blackzilla is trying to sabotage our team" I got called out for this by Kesh after QMLing two FCC members (which were successful). Then you yelling for TkoV "never to hire him again." lol umad much? I actually talked to Hobb after this, and he was like"ignore him..... he gets like that sometimes" I was also doing bad for our team (in your eyes) yet I managed to go positive with 160 ping. oh well spergs gonna sperg.

Half a dozen guys complained about you qmling 5 guys at the beginning of the siege for no reason - I was the last of the guys complaining about you griefing.  You kept doing it after hobb and syls asked you to stop.  You are not reliable.
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Post by: Phantasmal on March 22, 2013, 05:49:47 am
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Post by: Artyem on March 22, 2013, 05:52:48 am
I love the Diplomacy section, it's like a soap opera that you read throughout the day.
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Post by: Hobb on March 22, 2013, 06:46:26 am
Hey dont bring me in this you little shits. Blackzilla. you were QMl'ng people, some of which were not afk and complained about it, and i asked you to stop because i didnt want peoples timers doubling from getting kicked. Let an admin deal with it etc.

It was certainly not just kesh who complained about it, and when i spoke to you after, i was not refering to kesh.

Im so glad you bring our conversations to the forums, a true great friend you are.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: HeraldOfTheGOBBLINKING on March 22, 2013, 09:28:15 am

Hahaha, except blackzilla already admitted giving them the gear and it was all gear from the desert.  Also, Jabonra_rubes had to turn around and race 5 hours and barely reinforced shik in the heavenly kingdom in time with gear and troops - actions of someone saving a vassal.
You make it sound like an exciting experience. Did I have you on the edge of your seat? Diplomacy wise we are on better terms with Shik and Co. than FCC. It was an easy decision to lend Shik some aid Instead of letting you destroy Shik's army and having you right outside my fief with 1k troops. Plus, you seem stressed and sperging out can really drain a man , so I thought you deserved a nice vacation to Europe! Consider this my gift to you <3.

Blackzilla is simply to nice to ever be a troll. As for Badplayer, whatever gear and troops he gave to Heavenly Kingdom was after he had decided to leave Hero Party and around the same time Blackzilla decided to try to take Samarra castle from him.
Yea I'm such a troll. Ask anyone I play this game with in TS, I'm the most laid back guy ever
So laid back that you're monotone brother!
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Post by: Blackzilla on March 22, 2013, 01:09:28 pm
Half a dozen guys complained about you qmling 5 guys at the beginning of the siege for no reason - I was the last of the guys complaining about you griefing.  You kept doing it after hobb and syls asked you to stop.  You are not reliable.
I QMLed 3 guys, two where succesful and I stopped after Hobb and Syls asked, also I was revenged QML'ed by Vick.
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And as to unreliable, I got a pretty good score for someone with 140 ping the entire battle.
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I'm sorry my internet friend! I thought that's who you were referring too (since I used his name), and of course people will complain when they're successfully kicked for a QML. Only one that didn't work was against Lorden. I stopped after you brought it up.
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Post by: BaleOhay on March 22, 2013, 02:17:10 pm
Why would you be qml-ing anyone in a strat fight? If they are afk and die it is 1 death... then they do not respawn.. if you qml it multiplies the deaths hurts respawn timers. Not a good idea ever in my mind...
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Post by: oprah_winfrey on March 22, 2013, 02:23:57 pm
You make it sound like an exciting experience. Did I have you on the edge of your seat? Diplomacy wise we are on better terms with Shik and Co. than FCC.

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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 22, 2013, 02:34:38 pm
Yeah I got disconnected last night and it added a bunch of deaths and my respawn timer was like 40 seconds...was turrible.
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Post by: Butan on March 22, 2013, 03:34:24 pm
Why would you be qml-ing anyone in a strat fight? If they are afk and die it is 1 death... then they do not respawn.. if you qml it multiplies the deaths hurts respawn timers. Not a good idea ever in my mind...

You sure they dont auto-respawn on strategus ?

At least I saw 3 or 4 guys being "AFK" and constantly spawning and getting killed.
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 22, 2013, 03:56:27 pm
You sure they dont auto-respawn on strategus ?

At least I saw 3 or 4 guys being "AFK" and constantly spawning and getting killed.

I think when you die the equipment screen comes up with the box auto checked but I think you still have to hit okay.
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Post by: Zaren on March 23, 2013, 03:08:06 am
You sure they dont auto-respawn on strategus ?

At least I saw 3 or 4 guys being "AFK" and constantly spawning and getting killed.
I think that if the box is checked then it auto spawns you. I tried it in the last battle(not pressing ok with the box checked) and it spawned me.


EDIT-I think I have a hater, Badoon, who constantly is downvoting everypost I do......I find it kinda funny.
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Post by: BadooN on March 23, 2013, 06:13:58 am
I think that if the box is checked then it auto spawns you. I tried it in the last battle(not pressing ok with the box checked) and it spawned me.


EDIT-I think I have a hater, Badoon, who constantly is downvoting everypost I do......I find it kinda funny.
Phew, I  was worried I'd hurt your feelings.
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Post by: Zaren on March 23, 2013, 06:26:10 am
Phew, I  was worried I'd hurt your feelings.
<3
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 23, 2013, 06:13:31 pm
I think that if the box is checked then it auto spawns you. I tried it in the last battle(not pressing ok with the box checked) and it spawned me.

Actually ya you're right, if the box is checked you spawn
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Post by: Fringe on March 25, 2013, 01:39:21 am
lol that another 3k? Were they slaughtered in the streets after you took the village?
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Post by: Lt_Anders on March 25, 2013, 01:41:32 am
I think, due to these bugs, I shall stop recording for the moment. If someone wants to take advantage of it, seems like attackers get all the advantages and defenders get...well....boned!
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Post by: arowaine on March 25, 2013, 03:37:01 am
I think, due to these bugs, I shall stop recording for the moment. If someone wants to take advantage of it, seems like attackers get all the advantages and defenders get...well....boned!

good call
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Post by: Matey on March 25, 2013, 03:55:41 am
I say strike any of these recent bugged battles from the record and update the ones that worked properly.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on March 25, 2013, 05:14:09 am
Haven't recorded anything yet. I've got 3 legit battles(up until the FCC vs Chinese) and then it's all shit bugged battles.
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Post by: Keshian on March 25, 2013, 05:33:03 am
Haven't recorded anything yet. I've got 3 legit battles(up until the FCC vs Chinese) and then it's all shit bugged battles.

??  All the chinese battles were not bugged - you mean up to and including the chinese fights right?
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Post by: Turboflex on March 25, 2013, 03:01:48 pm
did Daruvian vs Huesby bug out last night?
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Post by: HeraldOfTheGOBBLINKING on March 25, 2013, 03:13:45 pm
did Daruvian vs Huesby bug out last night?
The battle itself seemed fine, but after the battle was finished someone noticed that the scoreboard didn't record the KDR correctly. http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battleroster&id=2991
I mean I must have killed like 80 people and never died, but after the battle I was 7:9
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Post by: Harrys Oil Can on March 25, 2013, 07:35:18 pm
The battle itself seemed fine, but after the battle was finished someone noticed that the scoreboard didn't record the KDR correctly. http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battleroster&id=2991
I mean I must have killed like 80 people and never died, but after the battle I was 7:9
looks like it didn't record enough deaths for you, unless you were giving out free rubejobs and the enemy team decided not to kill you
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Post by: HeraldOfTheGOBBLINKING on March 25, 2013, 08:36:31 pm
looks like it didn't record enough deaths for you, unless you were giving out free rubejobs and the enemy team decided not to kill you
I can't help it if the other team enjoys my rubejobs
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Post by: LordLargos on March 26, 2013, 04:52:55 am
You know how everyone has that stalker that +/-'s them regardless of what they post?

Seems like I got one.

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Only person to -'s this thread all cause he's mah stalker(He -'s almost all my other posts too). Pretty weird, actually. Didn't think I was stalker worthy. Guess he has a bone to pick....
Kinda an old post but I hear ya Anders, LookItsMountNBladeMan (Kirby) used to do that to me and Kaoklai still does most of the the time.
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Post by: Mordred1622 on March 26, 2013, 05:03:19 am
Yep, most people hate us because it's the hip thing to do.
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Post by: Zaren on March 26, 2013, 05:11:29 am
Fimbulvetr vs Hospis seemed ligit if you wana add that anders
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Post by: Lt_Anders on March 26, 2013, 05:44:44 am
I'll get around to it on the morrow. Lazy mode right now. I usually update about 5-7 battles at a time(rather than every battle)
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Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on March 26, 2013, 08:01:36 am
Yep, most people hate us because it's the hip thing to do.

I have to be honest I slightly disliked you guys because when I was on my first or second generation in this game there were times when your clan would put a huge stack on my team that would hold a shieldwall and inexorably make the team lose. It wasn't (isn't?) that you guys were terribad and made the team lose but moreso that half the team would hold back with HoC and the other half would charge on and die because they were outnumbered thus crippling the team.

Now I like to make fun of you guys occasionally just because I once made a small sarcastic comment along the lines of "Man, three HoC guys just wounded me at once. Those bads!", and one of the HoC guys immediately blew up and attempted to order 4 HoC players to abandon the team in the middle of a battle because he was offended. I thought that was pretty lame.

You guys are mostly cool though.
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Post by: Turboflex on March 28, 2013, 01:33:04 am
Night time from 5:00 pm to 3:00 am eastern? seriously hospis?
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Post by: Relit on March 28, 2013, 04:06:40 am
Night time from 5:00 pm to 3:00 am eastern? seriously hospis?

The sad part is that Sandersson attacked this place 10 days ago and the battle took place around 9 PM. I do not know what changed to make them want to set their nighttime to this nonsense.
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Post by: Sandersson Jankins on March 28, 2013, 04:14:35 am
The sad part is that Sandersson attacked this place 10 days ago and the battle took place around 9 PM. I do not know what changed to make them want to set their nighttime to this nonsense.

The previous fief owner had fine night-time settings; Talltree has fucked up night-time settings. We'll fight in the wee hours of the morn if we have to.
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Post by: Artyem on March 29, 2013, 10:48:56 pm
Another victory for Fimbulvetr:

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=3041
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Post by: Keshian on March 29, 2013, 11:02:51 pm
Another victory for Fimbulvetr:

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=3041

Yeah between the chinese and hospitaller battles blue side should be almost even with red side.
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Post by: Matey on March 30, 2013, 01:48:11 am
Yeah between the chinese and hospitaller battles blue side should be almost even with red side.

Pretty sure Anders is a UIF, Druzhina, chocolate chip cookie, Hospitaller & Friends, Alien invader spy who isn't updating the stats because he hates Kesh.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Goretooth on March 30, 2013, 01:52:03 am
Pretty sure Anders is a UIF, Druzhina, chocolate chip cookie, Hospitaller & Friends, Alien invader spy who isn't updating the stats because he hates Kesh.
hey if you take out anders in strat I'll help
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Post by: Lt_Anders on March 30, 2013, 01:52:50 am
Pretty sure Anders is a UIF, Druzhina, chocolate chip cookie, Hospitaller & Friends, Alien invader spy who isn't updating the stats because he hates Kesh.

Lawl!
No it's cause of school. I am entered into a contest for my university and....well the design needs to be done in like 1-1.5 weeks and I work like a damn badger. Doing it now though ;p

Ok It's updated after VE battle!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Visconti on April 05, 2013, 06:39:52 am
Wont let this thread fall to second page!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 05, 2013, 07:05:49 am
Oh And here I was about to be FORCED to update it once it fell to page 2.... :twisted:

Still got massive shit to do.
Have PCI beam due by the 11th(full design drawings, plans and a report rough draft), In addition to to like 3 other things....Why must you make everything due 2 weeks before end of semester :(.

Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Zaren on April 08, 2013, 03:42:39 am
Update yesterdays and todays battles but for simplicityTHIS IS WHAT HOSPITALLER SCOREBOARD LOOKED LIKE :o
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Post by: Lt_Anders on April 08, 2013, 04:01:03 am
Oh And here I was about to be FORCED to update it once it fell to page 2.... :twisted:

Still got massive shit to do.
Have PCI beam due by the 11th(full design drawings, plans and a report rough draft), In addition to to like 3 other things....Why must you make everything due 2 weeks before end of semester :(.


AKA I'll get to it. IRL for my grad class comes first.

Will get a chance probably Monday to do it.
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Post by: Krosis on April 08, 2013, 04:15:23 am
Update yesterdays and todays battles but for simplicityTHIS IS WHAT HOSPITALLER SCOREBOARD LOOKED LIKE :o

I bet you were a big reason for that  :P
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Post by: Zaren on April 08, 2013, 05:30:27 am
I bet you were a big reason for that  :P
psssh what are you talking about  i go 5.0 kd every battle :lol:
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Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on April 08, 2013, 12:55:05 pm
What would have made this list immensely cool is if it also showed the total troops killed by a faction instead of just the total troops they had lost. Then you could see how well each individual faction performs in it's battles. That would have been damn cool.
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Post by: Blackzilla on April 08, 2013, 01:43:17 pm
What would have made this list immensely cool is if it also showed the total troops killed by a faction instead of just the total troops they had lost. Then you could see how well each individual faction performs in it's battles. That would have been damn cool.
I'll try to make a list of that, but I'd only go off of the battles anders has listed in the spoiler "MAIN WAR."

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Is that what you want?
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Post by: Lt_Anders on April 08, 2013, 10:43:36 pm
What would have made this list immensely cool is if it also showed the total troops killed by a faction instead of just the total troops they had lost. Then you could see how well each individual faction performs in it's battles. That would have been damn cool.

Sure, I Might do this once classes are over and I have TONS of free time.

UPDATED THE STATISTICS UP TO TODAY'S BATTLE.
So, it's official, Net difference(Blue's Losses - Red's Losses) is now -2208. Or in other words, Blue is killing MORE than Red!

Mostly due to the ineffectual KH to fight this strat war. LCO and SS have maintained Parity and are still winning on their front, but KH is doing poorly, and that's probably and understatement. Most of the Difference in NET losses comes from the one sided Hosp battles that they lose shit tons of troops on.

(Word of Advice, perhaps trying to have Transitional isn't as good as having more slightly weaker armor?)
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Post by: Duster on April 09, 2013, 05:34:46 pm
Trust me, its not the armor...
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Post by: Matey on April 15, 2013, 10:09:33 pm
 Last Edit: April 08, 2013, 10:36:37 pm by Lt_Anders »

better get busy anders :D
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Post by: Lt_Anders on April 15, 2013, 11:36:11 pm
UPDATED...
also i added a KDR counter as of this point in the war(minues the first week as those aren't on the battle list.)

Disclaimer about the KDR board. It's LOWER than it should be as it's only the kills since I started recording battles but the losses are since the start of the war. Also as it's total losses not "killed" losses, KDR is also higher.

BEST KDR is FCC WORST KDR is Tuetonic. Everyone else hovers right around the .6-.7 zone.
Astralis has best RED KDR and FCC is best BLUE KDR. LCO Has BETTER KDR than VE. HOSP is Actually doing better than expected.

Overall, blue does better at killing on the field than red does.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on April 16, 2013, 12:25:19 am
tuets bunch of scrubs. pulling our team average down as usual
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on April 16, 2013, 12:35:32 am
I'd love to see what the isolated Frisian KDR is. I know it's over 1.0. I have absolutely no doubt of that.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on April 16, 2013, 12:47:51 am
I'd love to see what the isolated Frisian KDR is. I know it's over 1.0. I have absolutely no doubt of that.

No thanks to me, I fucking blow at this game.

I am the head nerd of a clan of players that are all better than me.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 16, 2013, 02:07:43 am
I'd love to see what the isolated Frisian KDR is. I know it's over 1.0. I have absolutely no doubt of that.

Oh, just you guys? sorry that's WAY to much work. The KDR BS had me going loops trying to make sure i got the numbers right.(532 Killed was what the other faction got as their kills and I kept getting confuzzuled).

Do it yourself if you want. You guys have the battle list on page 2.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on April 16, 2013, 02:37:40 am
Is there any way I can just do a word search for our names or Frisia on a list somewhere to find our battles instead of looking at every damn one?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 16, 2013, 04:59:27 am
Well if you could narrow it down to FImb battles.

Also, if you use the strat "Faction" tab you could do it that way.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 19, 2013, 03:40:35 pm
Updated Losses and KDR.

FCC has just gone over 1.07(more kills than deaths! and a 0.9 point KDR jump!)
But LCO has had the best improvement of 0.1 from 0.74 to 0.84.
While Fimbul and hosp have both dropped slightly and VE gone up slightly.

Factions are nearly equivalent at .77 for blue and .71 for red.

Now that LCO has taken over, Blue losses have multiplied compared to what Red was suffering with Hosp battles.
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Post by: arowaine on April 19, 2013, 05:55:31 pm
not sure if one of my guys updated you ander but there we go!

-start from 14 to 19

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=3278
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=3297
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=3314
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=3316
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=3317
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=3320
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=3323
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=3327
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=3328

during that entire week i know im missing maybe 3 or 4 that i could not make it so try to find someone with the result. thanks keep the beautiful update many more to come!
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Post by: Matey on April 19, 2013, 08:32:42 pm
Over 300,000 dead soldiers! and that doesn't even count all the inevitable civillian casualties that have been worked to death in the occitan kitchens making frog leg soup and other weird french dishes!

Lets keep on killin till NA Calradia runs out of people!
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Post by: Duster on April 20, 2013, 03:52:55 am
Over 300,000 dead soldiers! and that doesn't even count all the inevitable civillian casualties that have been worked to death in the occitan kitchens making frog leg soup and other weird french dishes!

Lets keep on killin till NA Calradia runs out of people!

Heaps and Heaps of Poutine.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on April 22, 2013, 10:12:56 pm
Updated-ish. Added new factions to the RED side.
Fixed the spreadsheet a bit with some minor cell miscalls.
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Post by: Artyem on April 22, 2013, 11:49:13 pm
I don't think that CHAOS and FIDLGB should be 'Red Side' but a new, independent, 'Green Side'.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 23, 2013, 12:23:05 am
I don't think that CHAOS and FIDLGB should be 'Red Side' but a new, independent, 'Green Side'.

Well I could do that.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on April 23, 2013, 12:34:19 am
Well I could do that.

meh leave em on red. they arent at war with all the blues but not all blues are at war with all the reds either so it works out. if they start fighting someone on the red side as well then they can have their own colour.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 23, 2013, 12:38:55 am
To much hassle to make them their own faction so...yea they staying Under Red.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Blackzilla on April 23, 2013, 01:02:18 am
Anders Ill keep track of our deaths and kills if you'd like, starting from today.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on April 23, 2013, 01:18:33 am
Anders Ill keep track of our deaths and kills if you'd like, starting from today.

Oh it's not THAT that's hard. It's trying to record FCC losses against Green. Losses and Kills will be recorded. Just check the Spreadsheet. I mean, I have a link to it on first page....

That requires an ENTIRELY seperate Tree for me and It's to much work to program it that way.

Cause Matey made the correct point, BLUE V RED is correct and, not all Blues are Fighting All Reds.
It's Easy to keep it like this and only the Net difference and total Faction deaths would be off.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Rhalzo on April 23, 2013, 01:20:15 am
Oh it's not THAT that's hard. It's trying to record FCC losses against Green. Losses and Kills will be recorded. Just check the Spreadsheet. I mean, I have a link to it on first page....

That requires an ENTIRELY seperate Tree for me and It's to much work to program it that way.

Cause Matey made the correct point, BLUE V RED is correct and, not all Blues are Fighting All Reds.
It's Easy to keep it like this and only the Net difference and total Faction deaths would be off.

Just ignore keeping track of us then. We're not red or blue, but green.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on April 23, 2013, 01:41:47 am
Just ignore keeping track of us then. We're not red or blue, but green.

RHALZO IS RED!!! HE'S A COMMIE!!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 23, 2013, 02:07:16 am
Just ignore keeping track of us then. We're not red or blue, but green.

Well I can record your K/D at least ;p but that's it.

Can't record FCC's K/D(In this war) cause they are at war with 3-4 others.
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Post by: Matey on April 23, 2013, 02:15:19 am
pah! lump em with red for convenience.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Artyem on April 23, 2013, 05:00:04 am
I thought having a 3rd party would be interesting.

V.E is at war with Occitan and SS

Fimbulvetr is at war with Occitan, SS, Hospitallers, LL and Astralis

FCC is at war with Occitan, SS, Hospitallers, LL, FIDLGB and CHAOS

I probably missed one.

P.S.  Aww yeah, 500 renown, looks like I'm a true gentleman nerd.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on April 23, 2013, 05:04:30 am
P.S.  Aww yeah, 500 renown, looks like I'm a true gentleman nerd.

Heh You too?
Most interesting thing I've seen in awhile :wink:

As for the other stuff, I went ahead and separated Green off of the others. FCC losses going to count against Blue's total, but Greens will only be from Greens losses.

So...Blue will start suffering "higher" losses cause of it.
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Post by: Keshian on April 23, 2013, 05:15:00 am
Heh You too?
Most interesting thing I've seen in awhile :wink:

As for the other stuff, I went ahead and separated Green off of the others. FCC losses going to count against Blue's total, but Greens will only be from Greens losses.

So...Blue will start suffering "higher" losses cause of it.

Just count green + red together when calculating total losses - far more accurate, no green are fighting any red.  Otherwise it will skew every other factions statistics just to please them when they are essentially on red side.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 24, 2013, 01:32:46 am
Updated!

First salvo: Green comes out swinging with a 0.89 KDR!
FCC retains their 1.07, though.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on April 24, 2013, 01:35:07 am
glad they have their own color.. because looking at the roster it really is hard to tell them apart from any other battle
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 24, 2013, 01:40:21 am
glad they have their own color.. because looking at the roster it really is hard to tell them apart from any other battle

Huh?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on April 24, 2013, 01:44:18 am
Sorry will edit it. Means it is the same darn people who fight us as the red team. Why make them a different color? All it will do is mess up the stats for the blue vrs red war
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Post by: Lt_Anders on April 24, 2013, 01:47:38 am
Sorry will edit it. Means it is the same darn people who fight us as the red team. Why make them a different color? All it will do is mess up the stats for the blue vrs red war

The greenies wanted their own faction, so they got it, but for general use, they are lumped into red for the Net difference unless they attack Red Faction.
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Post by: SHinOCk on April 24, 2013, 01:48:44 am
Sorry will edit it. Means it is the same darn people who fight us as the red team. Why make them a different color? All it will do is mess up the stats for the blue vrs red war


All this red vs blue is kinda messed up to begin with since the resources are not shared between clans, The ongoing Wars are SS/LCO vs VE, FCC vs Hosp/FIDLGB/CHAOS? and i dont even know who Fimbulvetr is up against beside Hosp
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Relit on April 24, 2013, 01:51:31 am
Fimbulvetr is at war with Occitan, SS, Hospitallers, LL and Astralis

Artyem has the right of it regarding Fimbulvetr wars.
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Post by: BaleOhay on April 24, 2013, 01:55:05 am
Fcc and OCCi at peace? hmm interesting

Fcc and SS peaceful as well?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 24, 2013, 01:56:25 am

All this red vs blue is kinda messed up to begin with since the resources are not shared between clans, The ongoing Wars are SS/LCO vs VE, FCC vs Hosp/FIDLGB/CHAOS? and i dont even know who Fimbulvetr is up against beside Hosp

Here's the war breakdown(Any major battles between factions, or successive battles):
FCC v LCO, Hosp, Astralis, Green Machine (LL, Chinese)
VE v SS/LCO/
Fim v SS/LCO/Astralis/Hosp
LCO v VE/FCC/Fim
SS v VE/FCC/Fim
Astralis v FCC/Fim
Hosp v FCC/Fim

And While they may not be at war, the Blue faction is, for the most part hostile to all members of Red Faction and vice versa. So it IS valid to do it my way. Unless you're saying that SS will make peace with Blue and Fight LCO and Astralis. Or maybe Astralis will join in and attack SS or LCO for land.

Not. Going. To. Happen.
Much like FCC and VE and Fimbul will not attack each other, same with the Red block.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: SHinOCk on April 24, 2013, 02:00:47 am
Fcc and OCCi at peace? hmm interesting

Fcc and SS peaceful as well?

Not saying at peace, basically all i wanted to say is that these blocks are getting too big considering the support given among the clans in terms of resources, last time we fought FCC is when you made your first push in the desert months ago if my memory is right. I for one consider my clan at war with someone when we are actually doing shit to them otherwise we might as well say we are at war with everyone that has ever attacked us since strat 2.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 24, 2013, 02:03:10 am
Not saying at peace, basically all i wanted to say is that these blocks are getting too big considering the support given among the clans in terms of resources, last time we fought FCC is when you made your first push in the desert months ago if my memory is right

Well if you look at it, it's really just LCO and now Green Machine fighting The Blue Horde. Hosp is effectively diminished, and SS has done...what exactly?

Send an Occitan army near Sargoth and watch how quick it gets ganked by FCC.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on April 24, 2013, 02:05:33 am
but I thought Shin was saying he wants to be friends! FCC OCC friendship! It can be!!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Artyem on April 24, 2013, 02:37:06 am
Don't tell me you forgot about us, Shinock.  You guys declared war on us and you've offered no peace treaties or armistices agreements, you've only further provoked hostile action.

Not sure why people would minus my previous post, I was stating facts to correct the current misconception.

Fimbulvetr IS at war with LCO, Hospitallers, Astralis and SS still.  They are the only one at war with Astralis (so far).

FCC IS at war with Hospitallers, LCO, SS.  They are the only one at war with CHAOS / FIDLGB.

VE IS at war with LCO and SS, they are currently not engaging Hospitallers (they're actually trading with them) and they are NOT figting Astralis / CHAOS / FIDLGB.

Not sure why people think this is incorrect, it is the truth.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on April 24, 2013, 02:55:34 am
Don't tell me you forgot about us, Shinock.  You guys declared war on us and you've offered no peace treaties or armistices agreements, you've only further provoked hostile action.

Not sure why people would minus my previous post, I was stating facts to correct the current misconception.

Fimbulvetr IS at war with LCO, Hospitallers, Astralis and SS still.  They are the only one at war with Astralis (so far).

FCC IS at war with Hospitallers, LCO, SS.  They are the only one at war with CHAOS / FIDLGB.

VE IS at war with LCO and SS, they are currently not engaging Hospitallers (they're actually trading with them) and they are NOT figting Astralis / CHAOS / FIDLGB.

Not sure why people think this is incorrect, it is the truth.

+1 this seriously guys, hes just stating the exact current alliances and wars.  i think Knute even had this up in picture format.  And Anders we are not at war with astralis, but we are at war with Hospitallers, Chaos, FIDLGB, Occitan, Chinese Kingdom, and semenstorm (though murder or someone else was talking peace with them as all the people we had issues with have left their faction and the rest of the guys we like no real animosity towards them at this point)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 24, 2013, 03:09:28 am
And Anders we are not at war with astralis,

You attacked them 3 times, so by my definition of who's at war, you're at war.(3 battles against them is a war if you ask me)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on April 24, 2013, 03:40:19 am
You attacked them 3 times, so by my definition of who's at war, you're at war.(3 battles against them is a war if you ask me)

We made peace with them afterwards and compensated them for their losses.  Mostly a misunderstanding where some of our members thought we were at war because of the 1 battle at kedelke.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Bronto on April 25, 2013, 01:52:45 am
You might as well put the whole FCC, VE alliance out there as well. RIP rest of map who isn't in this massive butt hugging alliance.....RIP...
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on April 25, 2013, 01:59:04 am
so wait, you pick a fight with us... VE doesn't get involved at all because they aren't allied to us... and you complain about us being allied with VE? i don't get it. If your goal was to get us to fight VE wouldn't it have been a better strategy to try and make friends with us or VE and try to get us or VE to go to war with the other?
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Post by: Penguin on April 25, 2013, 02:06:59 am
You might as well put the whole FCC, VE alliance out there as well. RIP rest of map who isn't in this massive butt hugging alliance.....RIP...

All the independent factions need to stop this madness. The horde will swallow everything including itself once it controls the map. Forget your petty squabbles, band together for this war, and make safeguards against any future mega-alliances that will ruin strategus!
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Post by: Blackzilla on April 25, 2013, 02:25:04 am
He is complaining about the Merc agreement you have with them, since VE has a large amount of NA players, other clans, like us, have a hard time filling their rosters. Due to the majority of active players being bound to your side.
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Post by: Bronto on April 25, 2013, 02:27:37 am
so wait, you pick a fight with us... VE doesn't get involved at all because they aren't allied to us... and you complain about us being allied with VE? i don't get it. If your goal was to get us to fight VE wouldn't it have been a better strategy to try and make friends with us or VE and try to get us or VE to go to war with the other?

We tried but your nonaggression pact with VE kind of got in the way. Not to mention the fact that none of VE is allowed to merc against you. Just make it public already and quit trying to be forum heroes.
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Post by: Matey on April 25, 2013, 02:37:50 am
We tried but your nonaggression pact with VE kind of got in the way. Not to mention the fact that none of VE is allowed to merc against you. Just make it public already and quit trying to be forum heroes.

pay better attention to rosters. we end up with more VE on our side than against but there are usually a couple on the other team just like how theres often a couple FCC against VE in their fights. you guys just keep believing what you want if it makes you happy though.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Blackzilla on April 25, 2013, 02:43:45 am
Aldog told us before our battles his guys couldn't sign for us due to a merc agreement with FCC.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on April 25, 2013, 02:47:48 am
Aldog told us before our battles his guys couldn't sign for us due to a merc agreement with FCC.

aldog hates us for some reason. theres no merc agreement but we did ask for MB guys to sign up for us and many of them did. youll also notice aldo has signed up against us in every fight and sometimes other VE guys are also on the other side.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Bronto on April 25, 2013, 02:51:09 am
Why so defensive and insulting I'm just stating the obvious. Just say it, you have a nonaggression pact with VE.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on April 25, 2013, 02:56:42 am
It is more of a gentleman's agreement. We sign up for them, they in turn sign up for us.

Now if we have people signing up and the roster is full then they are free to do whatever they want (check the VE/LCO fight from last night Fcc had 5 guys on LCO who did rather well) , and same goes for VE when we are full up. It is all good. No harm no foul.

however in the case you are talking about. The fight popped up. It was at a bad time where NA mercs were going to be difficult to get. I look on the enemy roster and it has 100% sign up from the MB guys, that is def something we will try and change if we can. It is the politics of the game. No hard feelings but if we see people on your roster we would rather see on ours, we will happily try and get them to shift sides. Rosters are not set in stone till the fight begins.

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Post by: BaleOhay on April 25, 2013, 03:00:54 am
on a side note... you know we are at war right? inconveniencing you by getting your mercs to kill you instead of us is sort of the point. Wait till we start getting creative.

 You did sneak attack us after all. So you got the enemy you picked.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on April 25, 2013, 03:17:12 am
Why so defensive and insulting I'm just stating the obvious. Just say it, you have a nonaggression pact with VE.

When you make shit up you shouldn't be so shocked if people tell you you are wrong.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Bronto on April 25, 2013, 03:39:27 am
Lol make shit up! Bale just admitted you guys are friendly. I'm sure the convo with VE before the battles was filled with hugs and rainbows not you guys telling their leaders their clans had to fight for you because of the "gentlemen's agreement". So good fight, maybe it is you that lacks basic reading comprehension skills.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on April 25, 2013, 03:40:57 am
on a side note... you know we are at war right? inconveniencing you by getting your mercs to kill you instead of us is sort of the point. Wait till we start getting creative.

 You did sneak attack us after all. So you got the enemy you picked.

I think it helps that every ve fight FILDGB sign s up in force always against them on occitan side, while a lot of fcc sign up for them.  Lot easier toa sk someone to emrc for you instead when the person youa re fighting refuses to merc on their side and does their best to merc against them.  And yeah Aldoglaus has some weird vendetta against us and mercs against us every chance he gets, still not sure why since we never did anything to him.

All i did was remind them FIDLGB mercs always against them and are not friendly with them.  Hospitallers at least merc on their side unlike you guys, so can't do the same thing.  Maybe you shouldnt have been so choosy about who you merc for and you could call on more people - just look at when ascalon was attacked - everyone wanted to merc for him from most clans.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on April 25, 2013, 03:42:56 am
Lol make shit up! Bale just admitted you guys are friendly. I'm sure the convo with VE before the battles was filled with hugs and rainbows not you guys telling their leaders their clans had to fight for you because of the "gentlemen's agreement". So good fight, maybe it is you that lacks basic reading comprehension skills.

Friendly does not equal NAP, Merc Agreement, Permanent alliance and a deal to exchange first born sons like you seem to think it does.
We get along with lots of people in VE so we asked some people to sign for us instead and some of them did. I don't see why you are so upset.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Bronto on April 25, 2013, 03:54:22 am
Don't turn this around on me and Kesh I guess all the free trading we did with them meant we're hostile indeed. You guys can go ahead thinking you're pulling the wool over everyone's eyes but in the eternal words of smooth rich and the xfiles "the truth is out there". Jesus sees the light I just hope the rest of NA does. My work here is done.

Bale, the only FCC member who I believe, I will look forward to the xp future battles will bring.

Edit: LOL at the FIDLGB mercs comment I'm sure both of them turn the tide of battle every time!
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Post by: Matey on April 25, 2013, 04:24:48 am
Don't turn this around on me and Kesh I guess all the free trading we did with them meant we're hostile indeed. You guys can go ahead thinking you're pulling the wool over everyone's eyes but in the eternal words of smooth rich and the xfiles "the truth is out there". Jesus sees the light I just hope the rest of NA does. My work here is done.

Bale, the only FCC member who I believe, I will look forward to the xp future battles will bring.

Edit: LOL at the FIDLGB mercs comment I'm sure both of them turn the tide of battle every time!

So it doesn't mean anything if FIDLGB sign up in support of one clan vs another but it does mean something if other clans sign up mostly for one side over another? Whatever, I don't see why you are getting so pissed about all this, we got along with FIDLGB pretty well for most of this strat; unless I'm mistaken we returned a bunch of fiefs to you guys after the multiaccount thing; so it would be nice if you would just fight us without the dramatic forum accusations. No need to create enmity between the members of FIDLGB and FCC when we can just enjoy strat hostilities while still getting along outside of strat; it's better that way when possible.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on April 25, 2013, 04:37:38 am
I agree with matey. Rhalzo and I still talk on friendly terms and I would like to think that would hold true for anyone in the fcc/bowlers before/during/after the war is over. Nothing to get excited about or cause a long lasting hatred.

The truth of the matter is. I saw the roster and wanted the MB guys on our side. So I steamed 9finger and asked him why all his guys were on the other side. Roster support is a two way street. Could he get some of the boners to stiffen up in our direction. It was done. As a result we denied you guys some quality mercs.. Win/Win

9 knows that he can steam me later on and say hey man you guys have some dudes fighting against us.. mind trying to change some minds. I will gladly do so. No grand conspiracy honestly. Just one bro asking another bro to point his boners in the right direction. 
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Post by: Penguin on April 25, 2013, 04:49:49 am
I agree with matey. Rhalzo and I still talk on friendly terms and I would like to think that would hold true for anyone in the fcc/bowlers before/during/after the war is over. Nothing to get excited about or cause a long lasting hatred.

The truth of the matter is. I saw the roster and wanted the MB guys on our side. So I steamed 9finger and asked him why all his guys were on the other side. Roster support is a two way street. Could he get some of the boners to stiffen up in our direction. It was done. As a result we denied you guys some quality mercs.. Win/Win

This is just bad sportsmanship and really is strange that a huge mega faction would feel the need to borderline sabotage a much smaller clan's roster. Not only are you denying the spots to people that would really enjoy fighting in the battle when you conspire to switch sides at the last second, but you're doing a real discredit to the community of people that wish to play the game without having to refresh their roster every second before the battle starts. Now I know fcc has been accused of being notorious for abusing just about every bug to gain advantage, but I cannot say I have had first had experience with any but the underhandedness of the "fcc shuffle". You were once a cool guy baleo, what happened? We all play for the fun of large battles and competitiveness of crpg combat, so why are you doing yourself and everyone who participates a disservice?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on April 25, 2013, 04:54:48 am
This is just bad sportsmanship and really is strange that a huge mega faction would feel the need to borderline sabotage a much smaller clan's roster. Not only are you denying the spots to people that would really enjoy fighting in the battle when you conspire to switch sides at the last second, but you're doing a real discredit to the community of people that wish to play the game without having to refresh their roster every second before the battle starts. Now I know fcc has been accused of being notorious for abusing just about every bug to gain advantage, but I cannot say I have had first had experience with any but the underhandedness of the "fcc shuffle". You were once a cool guy baleo, what happened? We all play for the fun of large battles and competitiveness of crpg combat, so why are you doing yourself and everyone who participates a disservice?

The thing is... this is all about the first of those battles which was at a terrible time for us. When I was looking at the roster we had about 30 mercs compared to FIDLGB's full roster. We asked some of the MB guys to switch the night before the battle and managed to get i think 2 of them on our side instead of FIDLGB side. I really don't think that was last second or anything and we were really short on people when we asked. As for FCC being a huge mega faction; I continue to find it amusing that people think that.
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Post by: Penguin on April 25, 2013, 05:28:08 am
The thing is... this is all about the first of those battles which was at a terrible time for us. When I was looking at the roster we had about 30 mercs compared to FIDLGB's full roster. We asked some of the MB guys to switch the night before the battle and managed to get i think 2 of them on our side instead of FIDLGB side. I really don't think that was last second or anything and we were really short on people when we asked. As for FCC being a huge mega faction; I continue to find it amusing that people think that.

I apologize if it looked like I accused FCC of having people maliciously switch sides today. because I cannot say the the switch to the other side of FIDLGBs battle was last minute or even malicious, only the person in charge of the roster. What I do know is that it has happened to me personally, and many people have told me that this is had become a common occurrence in several battles against FCC/VE. As for the mega alliance of FCC/VE, how can you deny it? Just look at the strat map, you guys and your vassals control well over 3/4ths of the map. And this is counting Astralis/Occitan/SS/Hospi as combatants and not even including your allies Fimbulevtr! Once again, sorry for kind of going off topic!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on April 25, 2013, 05:49:06 am
As for the mega alliance of FCC/VE, how can you deny it?

Cause we aren't allied. We haven't coordinated anything with them or worked together all strat; they do their thing and we do ours. We trade with each other and we often merc for each other and we generally get along. Used to be able to say the same for SS and chaos/fidlgb, but things change.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Penguin on April 25, 2013, 06:03:26 am
Cause we aren't allied. We haven't coordinated anything with them or worked together all strat; they do their thing and we do ours. We trade with each other and we often merc for each other and we generally get along. Used to be able to say the same for SS and chaos/fidlgb, but things change.

So you haven't coordinated anything, but you trade with eachother, which entails the transfer of troops/gear/gold in addition to goods. You merc for each other, and when you see that any of them are mercing against you, you go into their TS or message them to switch to your side. What exactly is your definition of allies then? You don't have to be joined at the hip  :lol: 

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Post by: Keshian on April 25, 2013, 06:05:03 am
So you haven't coordinated anything, but you trade with eachother, which entails the transfer of troops/gear/gold in addition to goods. You merc for each other, and when you see that any of them are mercing against you, you go into their TS or message them to switch to your side. What exactly is your definition of allies then? You don't have to be joined at the hip  :lol:

??  Trade with each other just means trading goods.  What kind of weird conspiracy are you trying to imagine up?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Visconti on April 25, 2013, 06:05:27 am
I dont get why everyone thinks us and the FCC are allied. There's no merc agreement, no secret alliance, i dont think we have helped each other in a war one time. We trade, thats about it (not even that much). As for mercing, we generally apply for FCC because they ask us to, and the people they are fighting generally merc in mass against us, but we normally have people on the other team as well. If you guys want our mercs, try asking us. Of course, im sure it would help if we got a few mercs in return. Shinock said it right with this


All this red vs blue is kinda messed up to begin with since the resources are not shared between clans, The ongoing Wars are SS/LCO vs VE, FCC vs Hosp/FIDLGB/CHAOS? and i dont even know who Fimbulvetr is up against beside Hosp


Edit: To Penguin, the only time we have complained about our mercs signing against FCC was when they were fighting LCO, because we are actively at war with them. Even then we dont care much about it
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Relit on April 25, 2013, 06:17:56 am
I apologize if it looked like I accused FCC of having people maliciously switch sides today. because I cannot say the the switch to the other side of FIDLGBs battle was last minute or even malicious, only the person in charge of the roster. What I do know is that it has happened to me personally, and many people have told me that this is had become a common occurrence in several battles against FCC/VE. As for the mega alliance of FCC/VE, how can you deny it? Just look at the strat map, you guys and your vassals control well over 3/4ths of the map. And this is counting Astralis/Occitan/SS/Hospi as combatants and not even including your allies Fimbulevtr! Once again, sorry for kind of going off topic!

Fimbulvetr has no alliances. Ravens on the other hand are allied with VE, this alliance does not carry over to the entire Fimbulvetr Confederacy. We (FCC/Fimbulvetr) are fighting several of the same enemies, we do not have any actual agreements with them nor has FCC approached any Fimbulvetr leadership asking for anything either.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 25, 2013, 06:30:50 am
Oi, I'm going to lock this topic if you bastards keep shitting each other up.

Keep it clean, Civil and Discussion related to statistics. Conspiracies and other Diplo BS get their own thread.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on April 25, 2013, 06:44:47 am
Oi, I'm going to lock this topic if you bastards keep shitting each other up.

Keep it clean, Civil and Discussion related to statistics. Conspiracies and other Diplo BS get their own thread.

Anders is actually a UIF spy who is doing all this statistical stuff to promote more warfare between NA factions as UIF prepares to invade NA.
p.s. Aliens.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Malaclypse on April 25, 2013, 07:13:42 am
As for mercing, we generally apply for FCC because they ask us to, and the people they are fighting generally merc in mass against us

People have to merc en masse against for one reason: you're the biggest faction NA. You guys could, if you wanted (and I remember specifically a few battles early on where I was lucky to get in because you were actively trying to do this) fill your roster entirely with your own faction, even if only 1/3rd of your Strat members are actually active, seriously.

I know CHAOS can't do that or even half of that at most times, FIDLGB can't do that or even a quarter of that at ANY time, Teutonic can't do that, Hospitaller can't, FCC and Occitan might be able to do that (only at an extremely favorable time for either of them, really), and Fimbulvetr just barely could given absolutely perfect settings. I'm not saying this to call you a pooty or anything, also.

If your faction were broken into it's constituent parts on Strategus (The Kingdom of Veluca, Murder Boner, Hounds of Cthulu) as separate entities I know I'd be a lot more likely to apply for them in any given battle. Hell, I'm in a cRPG clan that has like, four of it's members in another separate Strategus clan (The Republic of Mates @ 9 members total). And those are people we could actually direly use to mount an offensive (we've had to settle for just giving them troops we couldn't use in exchange for gear).

Edit: typo!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Artyem on April 25, 2013, 07:24:04 am
Can someone just go make the thread for all of this drama b/s?  I'd do it but I don't deem it important enough, as long as this thread stays active.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Visconti on April 25, 2013, 07:32:28 am
People have to merc en masse against for one reason: you're the biggest faction NA. You guys could, if you wanted (and I remember specifically a few battles early on where I was lucky to get in because you were actively trying to do this) fill your roster entirely with your own faction, even if only 1/3rd of your Strat members are actually active, seriously.

I know CHAOS can't do that or even half of that at most times, FIDLGB can't do that or even a quarter of that at ANY time, Teutonic can't do that, Hospitaller can't, FCC and Occitan might be able to do that (only at an extremely favorable time for either of them, really), and Fimbulvetr just barely could given absolutely perfect settings. I'm not saying this to call you a pooty or anything, also.

If your faction were broken into it's constituent parts on Strategus (The Kingdom of Veluca, Murder Boner, Hounds of Cthulu) as separate entities I know I'd be a lot more likely to apply for them in any given battle. Hell, I'm in a cRPG clan that has like, four of it's members in another separate Strategus clan (The Republic of Mates @ 9 members total). And those are people we could actually direly use to mount an offensive (we've had to settle for just giving them troops we couldn't use in exchange for gear).

Edit: typo!

At the start of strat, we could maybe get a full roster with our faction. Now? Hell no. Strat is too shit for all our members to be interested. On average we get maybe 20, 25 at most, just depends on the time. And were certainly not forcing people to merc in mass against us just due to our size, there isnt a faction on the map who shouldnt be able to get a full roster as long as its a decent sized battle, regardless of their size or which "bloc" they belong too.

And to anders, this will be my last post, dont want to muck up your thread anymore
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Malaclypse on April 25, 2013, 02:26:07 pm
Sorry Anders  :oops:
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Haramir on April 25, 2013, 03:16:47 pm
At the start of strat, we could maybe get a full roster with our faction. Now? Hell no. Strat is too shit for all our members to be interested. On average we get maybe 20, 25 at most, just depends on the time. And were certainly not forcing people to merc in mass against us just due to our size, there isnt a faction on the map who shouldnt be able to get a full roster as long as its a decent sized battle, regardless of their size or which "bloc" they belong too.

And to anders, this will be my last post, dont want to muck up your thread anymore

People got bored with strategus and CRPG over time, we fought so many battle against each other.  At the beggining we could get almost half of our roster filled with Occitan and chevalier, and 7 Hero party.  The spot for our roster were really hard to get  for outsiders and we always had like 75 ppl mercing for us, now we barely filled roster if the battle is a little too early or too late
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Aldogalus on April 25, 2013, 03:42:29 pm
I sign for the underdog, and generally encourage my GUILDM8S to do the same. According to the words of FCC members, we don't even have a merc agreement, so obvi i have done nothing wrong. I have signed for FCC before, but its pretty rare that you need more assistance than the other team. This is the main reason that i sign for the other team, thought i do think you are a bunch of cocksuckers for the most part.

    ~Aldowild
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Aldogalus on April 25, 2013, 03:45:02 pm
bale doesnt play enough
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Post by: BaleOhay on April 25, 2013, 04:38:19 pm
At the risk of continuing to ruin the thread... am I that one rare fcc you like or just another cocksucker as you put it
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 25, 2013, 04:43:16 pm
You act like cocksuckers are a bad thing...I cherish them.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Syls on April 27, 2013, 05:35:59 pm
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=3451

The village of New Tamnuh is yet to be conquered!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Hobb on April 27, 2013, 08:34:48 pm
People have to merc en masse against for one reason: you're the biggest faction NA. You guys could, if you wanted (and I remember specifically a few battles early on where I was lucky to get in because you were actively trying to do this) fill your roster entirely with your own faction, even if only 1/3rd of your Strat members are actually active, seriously.

I know CHAOS can't do that or even half of that at most times, FIDLGB can't do that or even a quarter of that at ANY time, Teutonic can't do that, Hospitaller can't, FCC and Occitan might be able to do that (only at an extremely favorable time for either of them, really), and Fimbulvetr just barely could given absolutely perfect settings. I'm not saying this to call you a pooty or anything, also.

If your faction were broken into it's constituent parts on Strategus (The Kingdom of Veluca, Murder Boner, Hounds of Cthulu) as separate entities I know I'd be a lot more likely to apply for them in any given battle. Hell, I'm in a cRPG clan that has like, four of it's members in another separate Strategus clan (The Republic of Mates @ 9 members total). And those are people we could actually direly use to mount an offensive (we've had to settle for just giving them troops we couldn't use in exchange for gear).

Edit: typo!

Why would 3 seperate  factions that are allied, be any different than 3 allied clans in one faction? We would just be the "Evil Bloc," or the "UIF," or some lame group that anders thought of while he was taking a shit. We don't have allies not in the faction, we like every other clan lobby our mercs in a way that gets us mercs in our battles. As of right now, we get about 60 applicants a primetime battle, with a dozen or so of those being below 27.

And mala, you give me wet dreams at night, but this small clan v small clan utopia thingy you guys believe in is what ruins strategus. You guys rarely fight any battles, and yeah, its easy for your members to get the xp from all the battles because your mercs are damn good. But no clan not in our faction wants to hire DickSwag_Recruit_of_TKoV to a battle, because hes probably going to go 3-42.

It takes almost a minute to scroll down our battle results page, and we usually bring 5-10 big battles a week to all the members in our 3 clans, and the rest of the community, and have lots of fun doing it.

Without some sort of institutional overlord, physically making clans fight eachother in fair, even wars, their will never be a "fair" war in strategus. And at that point, its no longer something I personally want to play.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Malaclypse on April 27, 2013, 09:41:21 pm
Oh word Hobb, I talked with Tristran about this some outside of this thread after realizing I was just shitting it up more.
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Post by: Rhalzo on April 27, 2013, 10:22:39 pm
But no clan not in our faction wants to hire DickSwag_Recruit_of_TKoV to a battle, because hes probably going to go 3-42.

I'd probably hire him if he showed up in our TeamSpeak. Then I'd tell him he's doing a great job. By the way, you're all doing a great job.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 29, 2013, 01:30:46 am
Since you guys was so nice and stopped being jerks in this thread you guys get a warscore update!

KDRs are the same(roughly) as last update. Green (now including the mates) has best KDR as a group with the Blue side being right behind them.

Enjoy!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on April 29, 2013, 01:54:15 am
Looks like four of the AoW vs Mates fights ended up under the FCC vs Green category; give them their own thing since FCC and Mates aren't at war.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on April 29, 2013, 01:58:15 am
mates are more yellow than green on the map... and as Matey mentioned we are not at war with them. As long as anyone gets to pick how things are divided then AoW and mates is its own thing entirely.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 29, 2013, 03:05:19 am
mates are more yellow than green on the map... and as Matey mentioned we are not at war with them. As long as anyone gets to pick how things are divided then AoW and mates is its own thing entirely.

We shall see....

The only thing that is thrown off is the global faction deaths and faction kdrs. Otherwise the stats don't matte what side they are one as the rest are all individual.

Also I added mates under green side at request of the mates themselves.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on April 29, 2013, 03:19:21 am
keep em in the green block if they want, but FCC isn't at war with em so maybe you could do AoW vs Mates and FCC vs Chaos/FIDLGB separate.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Jack1 on April 29, 2013, 03:21:24 am
Why not just make it....

X block kills:
X block deaths:

That would show how well each faction does without skewing the data.

Mabey add in seperate spoilers for specific conflicts.

Also: possibly a captured #... Starting from this point so you wouldent have to recount obv.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 30, 2013, 04:02:48 pm
http://grammarist.com/spelling/bloc-block/

Quote
Bloc means a group of nations or people united by common interest. This is its primary definition, but it is occasionally used in a variety of other senses that make it roughly synonymous with group or alliance. The much broader block has a variety of definitions, but a group working together is not one of them.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on April 30, 2013, 09:13:37 pm
Fix the FCC vs Green thing already. AoW is not in FCC and FCC is not fighting the Mates. AoW vs Mates should have its own thing.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Saxton on April 30, 2013, 10:25:09 pm
0 losses Chaos, guess you guys are l33t fighters.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 01, 2013, 03:16:17 am
Fix the FCC vs Green thing already. AoW is not in FCC and FCC is not fighting the Mates. AoW vs Mates should have its own thing.

Eh....

Don't feel like it. and it doesn't matter really, except at the VERY end where total losses are counted and then summed out. It's still the same losses, the same kdrs, etc etc. Only the "Faction" losses don't matter anymore, and I did stop messing with them overly. All that matters is: Faction losses, Faction KDR, and Total losses.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on May 01, 2013, 04:18:05 am
Eh....

Don't feel like it. and it doesn't matter really, except at the VERY end where total losses are counted and then summed out. It's still the same losses, the same kdrs, etc etc. Only the "Faction" losses don't matter anymore, and I did stop messing with them overly. All that matters is: Faction losses, Faction KDR, and Total losses.

Oh sure... chaos cries a bit that they want their own green faction even though they arent fighting any reds and you cave in and do it, but you won't give AoW vs Mates their own thing even though their battles don't belong under such a heading as "FCC vs Green".
I hate you anders! I'm going home!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 01, 2013, 04:25:03 am
Oh sure... chaos cries a bit that they want their own green faction even though they arent fighting any reds and you cave in and do it, but you won't give AoW vs Mates their own thing even though their battles don't belong under such a heading as "FCC vs Green".
I hate you anders! I'm going home!

Mates asked to be under green, so I stuck them there.
Also, You guys are my color so I don't like you :evil:
I'm going home!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: arowaine on May 05, 2013, 08:51:30 am
The only block that occitan chevalier as is us and ss(hero party) count in that, i dont really like to be associate with other people who we are not really concern with. you can just divide us apart pls would like to see our personal stat as a alliance thanks you ander!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on May 05, 2013, 09:16:23 am
The only block that occitan chevalier as is us and ss(hero party) count in that, i dont really like to be associate with other people who we are not really concern with. you can just divide us apart pls would like to see our personal stat as a alliance thanks you ander!

if you arent associated with hospitallers why would you bail them out previously and why would they give you all their shit >.>
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: arowaine on May 05, 2013, 05:55:11 pm
if you arent associated with hospitallers why would you bail them out previously and why would they give you all their shit >.>

diplomacy...i can say the same about you and ve from your point of view!

also dont like the way people put things, this game isn't only a 2 side war.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on May 05, 2013, 06:06:10 pm
YES IT IS!

ITS THE GOOD GUYS (us)

VERSUS THE BAD GUYS (you guys)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on May 05, 2013, 08:01:19 pm
Fix the FCC vs Green thing already. AoW is not in FCC and FCC is not fighting the Mates. AoW vs Mates should have its own thing.

Are you seriously implying AoW aren't FCC vassals?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 05, 2013, 08:10:32 pm
Are you seriously implying AoW aren't FCC vassals?

Ever Since FCC bailed out AoW back during the LL war, I've lumped them into that "Side".

And In all honesty, the side thingy is really just a organizer to show how the groups as a whole are doing.

Also, is Hosp out of strat? They have collapsed it sounds like...
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Post by: Matey on May 05, 2013, 08:31:19 pm
diplomacy...i can say the same about you and ve from your point of view!

also dont like the way people put things, this game isn't only a 2 side war.

We haven't ever bailed out VE or been bailed out by VE. We haven't given them fiefs or been given fiefs (the closest to such a thing would be them selling ayyike to us in exchange for us defeating the Occitan army that was attacking it). Neither side has given the other anything for free so I would say we are less connected than you Occitan and Hospitallers. FCC and VE are friendly trade partners with some common enemies and interests who don't do any direct coordination.

Are you seriously implying AoW aren't FCC vassals?

Yeah pretty much. They are friends and great people to do business with.

Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 06, 2013, 02:10:01 am
OK next Update!

In terms of losses, over 400,000 are dead in World War Calrdia: 'Murrica! Edition.

Now to KDR whoring:
FCC is still top dawg in this respect, but the MATES are pulling some major rank and have a .97 KDR! Second best in strat.
Chaos in their first push puts out the lowest of the Green Machine raking a measly .6(tied with AoW!)

AoW has suffered tremendous losses relative to the Mates.

Enjoy.

Don't forget the spreadsheet has more statistics(only some minor ones) that aren't published....bi-weekly....

As for the Blocks, the blocks will stay as is as they are a grouping of similar minded Factions. This only matters under 1 cirumstance and that's the "Block KDR." All other statisics are Faction specific regardless of their position on the block chart.(And this is easier to manage for me since it keeps everyone neat and organized)

DISCUSS and Have fun!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on May 06, 2013, 03:01:53 am
OK next Update!

In terms of losses, over 400,000 are dead in World War Calrdia: 'Murrica! Edition.

Now to KDR whoring:
FCC is still top dawg in this respect, but the MATES are pulling some major rank and have a .97 KDR! Second best in strat.
Chaos in their first push puts out the lowest of the Green Machine raking a measly .6(tied with AoW!)

AoW has suffered tremendous losses relative to the Mates.

Enjoy.

Don't forget the spreadsheet has more statistics(only some minor ones) that aren't published....bi-weekly....

As for the Blocks, the blocks will stay as is as they are a grouping of similar minded Factions. This only matters under 1 cirumstance and that's the "Block KDR." All other statisics are Faction specific regardless of their position on the block chart.(And this is easier to manage for me since it keeps everyone neat and organized)

DISCUSS and Have fun!

1 correction - aow has done about equal parity with ildist and mates - you are forgetting their stats also include their losses against lost legion.  They have won 4 out of 6 large battles i think at this point.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 06, 2013, 03:40:57 am
1 correction - aow has done about equal parity with ildist and mates - you are forgetting their stats also include their losses against lost legion.  They have won 4 out of 6 large battles i think at this point.

AH that's right....

Correct!
AoW has had the largest NET improvement(.4  to .6).
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: arowaine on May 06, 2013, 04:02:14 am
We haven't ever bailed out VE or been bailed out by VE. We haven't given them fiefs or been given fiefs (the closest to such a thing would be them selling ayyike to us in exchange for us defeating the Occitan army that was attacking it). Neither side has given the other anything for free so I would say we are less connected than you Occitan and Hospitallers. FCC and VE are friendly trade partners with some common enemies and interests who don't do any direct coordination.

Yeah pretty much. They are friends and great people to do business with.

well we do not even trade with hospitaller we did trade once and that it also we did not give anything free to them /they did not give us anything free either. so we are less connected then you and ve :)

ander still waiting to be split apart since we are not connected and in all honestly would be nice to see everyone split at this point except real alliance( for us it is occitan chevalier ally to ss(hero party) thanks you. as you mention before it is all about stat so would like to know our personal stat on that paper as our real alliance.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 06, 2013, 05:05:50 am
Alright I'll split EVERYONE if and only if this condition is met:
You as a Representative of your faction post who you are allied/at war with.


Once this is done I will attempt to re organize it accordingly.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: arowaine on May 06, 2013, 06:04:07 am
(click to show/hide)
les chevaliers occitans

Ally: Ss (hero party include)
vassal: none
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Visconti on May 06, 2013, 06:40:49 am
Velucan Empire

No allies

At war with LCO and SS.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Rhalzo on May 06, 2013, 06:58:51 am
You can keep FIDLGB as part of the green block, I don't care. But could you change the color you use for our name in the chart from that red color to #10463E? It's our Strategus color, so it seems more fitting for a green block member than red.

Other than that, you're doing a great job Anders!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Penguin on May 06, 2013, 07:26:06 am
You should fix "The wrath of Jesus", however only 4 major battles have really been fought (over 1k for each side)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 06, 2013, 08:11:16 pm
You should fix "The wrath of Jesus", however only 4 major battles have really been fought (over 1k for each side)

Ah yea I need those battle links so I can update it properly as they got shuffled off to...no mans land...(other than the VE battle as that was recorded.)

Ok So we Got VE's Post. (http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/the-great-na-war-losses-to-date/msg778742/#msg778742)
Fidlgb(and I guess Chaos too?) post on the matter. (http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/the-great-na-war-losses-to-date/msg778745/#msg778745)
LCO's Post is done too. (http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/the-great-na-war-losses-to-date/msg778732/#msg778732)
FCC needs to post theirs.
Same with the Fimbul/Raven/whatever that is now Alliance.
Is Hosp still in this? If they are I'll need their post on Alliance/wars too.
And I know the Mates/AoW war so That's not needed.

The Chinese, Astralis, and LL are going to be "Dropped" out of the war, so to speak, and Put into Small scale recording(They don't have any major battles/enemies atm) That's the updates going to be done as soon as the above section gets filled in with the appropriate data.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 06, 2013, 08:30:06 pm
Rather than Editing above post, this is a general update for battle listings. (http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/the-great-na-war-losses-to-date/msg722929/#msg722929)

The Old style recording is going to be moved out of the way to another post and the NEW method that's seen is going to be the new way to record battles.

Wars are going to be recorded by faction v faction bassis now and It will show up in the listings up above. Stuff is going to get reorganized so just be ready to see the old 4 months of battle listings disappear and the new faction specific ones take over. The last of the records in the old listing is going to be done today and then time for a new horse to take the race. Specially since my account of Red versus Blue has fallen apart thanks to Fimbulvetr.

Good luck to all the warlords!

INPUT REQUIRED:
I'm thinking of from this point forward using a new method of war specific KDRs for strat, unless people don't mind the global strat KDRs as what I use right now.(Basically: lifetime KDR of Strat factions versus war specific KDRs). What do you want?

As a fun fact:
The Great War(s) have been ongoing since February 15. With about 1 week of battles before the First battle of record. So the war has been ongoing for 3 months now, with 400,000 dead or MIA.(aka the tickets not killed) 400k in 3 months. We trying to repeat WWI it seems?

400k lost tickets. That's 800,000+ CRPG minutes gone! Or if you really wanted to know13,333 hours, or 556 days, or 1.5 years!
1 strat tick is 2 crpg in game ticks(at x2 or better). Enjoy!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Inglorious on May 10, 2013, 09:35:33 pm
Was just browsing pictures. Found a picture I think would be of a soldiers on the ground view of fighting in one of the Red Block vs Blue Block battles.

Thought it was cool

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Thanks for taking all these stats down down anders. I would go nuts trying to do it.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 12, 2013, 11:27:11 pm
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Ok updated!
No more blocks!
Post # 2 contains general Block Infos/Factions at war.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on May 17, 2013, 07:40:10 am
got some updates to do ol chum!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 17, 2013, 03:41:08 pm
I do it once a week now. Every Sunday gets new updates.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: SHinOCk on May 18, 2013, 09:04:21 pm
You're all doing a Great job
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 21, 2013, 02:52:13 am
Updated, 1 day late cause I'm too busy reading books.

And other than a Semenstom increase (and somehow a Hospitaller increase) in KDR, not much changed. More dead, at roughly the same rate as last week.

Even Fimbul has given FCC a run in stats. FCC hasn't increased its KDR at ALL in 1 week, even with their heavy wins against Fimbul and FIDLGB.

Determining how to play the lost tickets. I think I'm going to chalk it up as a 2100 lost tickets, much the same I did with Hero Party and Tydeus(meaning they are going to take a nasty drop in both KDR and losses).

I also added an EPIC picture provided by someone in this thread.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 25, 2013, 05:10:39 pm
Right I updated early due to the break of the Velucan Empire.

The Faction, VE will  henceforth cease to Exist to be replaced by its 3 constituent parts: HoC, MB, and TkoV.
Mainly doing this cause TkoV is more Or less still VE, but it's no longer the 3 faction VE so it's being done to separate all battle before this point as mutual coalition battles.

FCC had a 2163 ticket loss("The Betrayal") and then the losses coming from the subsequent assault of said fief again. This caused a nice .04 drop in KDR for FCC meaning they are .05 better KDR than The Mates who have jumped to 1.02 KDR(SECOND FACTION TO ACHEIVE THIS!)

I believe this is all the updates that need to be done.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: LordLargos on May 25, 2013, 11:35:27 pm
Gettin' a little complicated there Anders?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: engurrand on May 26, 2013, 12:35:45 am
How many more sons and daughters must we lose before we learn to live in peace?

BRO come in TKOV vent sometime and lemmy sing u a song
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 26, 2013, 03:11:24 am
Gettin' a little complicated there Anders?

Just a bit. Ithink I might remove the Chinese. That one big push and they just up and vanished.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 03, 2013, 05:32:33 pm
And updated! People making more work for me argh!

Slightly easier to read format now. KDR merged with Losses. Factions that have merged got removed from the counter(but their old counting is still there). Unsure about HOSP atm, will wait and see if that's a permament merger, or if it is just to sell the fiefs. Either way, hosp will cease to exist as a faction under records.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Kaelaen on June 03, 2013, 09:56:57 pm
Does that mean we're not at war with Hospitallers anymore?  Then who the hell are we -- oh, right.  So now Chaos/FDLGB is the new FCC/TLoV and we're the Northern Empire.  Phew, almost thought we ran out of wars there for a second.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: DUKE DICKBUTT on June 03, 2013, 10:10:47 pm
Anders, are you implying that FCC has wiped Hospitallers?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 03, 2013, 10:15:34 pm
Hosp is part of LCO faction on strat. Therefore as an INDEPENDENT faction, they don't exist, unless of course that's just a color change.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: DUKE DICKBUTT on June 03, 2013, 10:25:42 pm
Hosp is part of LCO faction on strat. Therefore as an INDEPENDENT faction, they don't exist, unless of course that's just a color change.

What I'm asking is can we count it?  In your opinion, how many clans has FCC wiped?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on June 03, 2013, 10:39:57 pm
What I'm asking is can we count it?  In your opinion, how many clans has FCC wiped?

I'd have to say the most notable ones you guys have wiped this Strategus would be Remnant, AoW, HG, and Roma Imperium.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: ildist on June 04, 2013, 12:05:52 am
More like give me their shit because they couldnt't handle THE MATES.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Jack1 on June 04, 2013, 12:15:34 am
I'd have to say the most notable ones you guys have wiped this Strategus would be Remnant, AoW, HG, and Roma Imperium.

And I'm gay

Believe it or not they actually merged with FCC and were never wiped.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Sparvico on June 04, 2013, 12:20:07 am
Believe it or not they actually merged with FCC and were never wiped.
I'd have to say the most notable ones you guys have wiped this Strategus would be Remnant, AoW, HG, and Roma Imperium.

How the hell did you two get un-muted. :P
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Post by: Jack1 on June 04, 2013, 12:39:36 am
That's the joke.

I don't currently comprehend the situation, can you please explain the humor?

How the hell did you two get un-muted. :P

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Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Penguin on June 04, 2013, 12:43:24 am
Believe it or not they actually merged with FCC and were never wiped.

That's the joke.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on June 04, 2013, 12:49:51 am
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Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 04, 2013, 03:27:59 am
What I'm asking is can we count it?  In your opinion, how many clans has FCC wiped?

Doesn't matter. Under the FIMBULVETR tag, I recorded all clans of said faction as one. Same with Velucan and same with FCC.

I record the STRAT FACTIONS stats, not it's individual members, unless they break apart(ALA Fimbul and VE.)

SO that would mean every clan that merged with FCC was 'wiped' to use your term. But though some factions were independant ahead of time, their stats, until they become independent again, are saved(or merge again).
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Penguin on June 06, 2013, 10:02:09 pm
Doing some maths

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Killed: 8298
Enemies Killed: 8679

K:D ratio: 1.05
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on June 06, 2013, 10:03:02 pm
Doing some maths

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Killed: 8298
Enemies Killed: 8679

K:D ratio: 1.05

Stop crutching on God.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Duster on June 07, 2013, 02:10:13 am
Doing some maths

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Killed: 8298
Enemies Killed: 8679

K:D ratio: 1.05

HG, are you even trying
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 07, 2013, 02:15:23 am
HG, are you even trying

HG and Remnant are not independent factions anymore. VE doesn't exist. So on that list, only FCC and FPOF still "exist".
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 12, 2013, 07:39:28 pm
well I'll be. Chaos and FCC are putting up some battles. I might have to make an update at some point. I'll wait till the weekend though and get a few more battles in before I update it.
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 12, 2013, 07:48:03 pm
Finally a lot of battles...and it's a night that I can actually play!  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Keshian on June 12, 2013, 08:06:42 pm
well I'll be. Chaos and FCC are putting up some battles. I might have to make an update at some point. I'll wait till the weekend though and get a few more battles in before I update it.

Corrected
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 12, 2013, 08:16:17 pm
Corrected

Takes two to tango, though that is more or less correct.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on June 12, 2013, 09:08:23 pm
Takes two to tango, though that is more or less correct.

Yeah if we didn't attack them they would just sit and do nothing but take up space and prevent other new active factions from having fiefs.  Just another parasitic rotting corpse of  factions topping this strategus from being active and fun by just turtling up for 10 months.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 12, 2013, 09:19:50 pm
FCC, the one faction that'll constantly cry about being attacked and not being attacked at pretty much the same time.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Canary on June 12, 2013, 09:33:27 pm
Yeah if we didn't attack them they would just sit and do nothing but take up space and prevent other new active factions from having fiefs.  Just another parasitic rotting corpse of  factions topping this strategus from being active and fun by just turtling up for 10 months.

'Cause monopolizing the playerbase in order to be able to take whatever you like is a much better scenario... oh wait, actually it is, because then battles are fought. Nevermind, carry on.



But on the other hand, we don't all have nearly a hundred players under our colors. There's just simply not as much one can do without that much manpower, particularly once enemy lines have already been established (in a conflict which we initiated, remember, even if you did make it official).

"do nothing" is absolutely wrong, too. You know, we were very close to attacking one of your villages before we noticed the twenty thousand tickets you sent in our direction. I might have started us marching already had I not been unexpectedly occupied in the beginning of last week. Your statement also disregards all the admittedly haphazard attacks we have sent your way. Proportionally, we're doing quite alright, certainly much more than you say.


FCC, the one faction that'll constantly cry about being attacked and not being attacked at pretty much the same time.

And who'll complain about night time settings not accommodating "prime time" attacks and go on to initiate attacks after 4am.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on June 12, 2013, 09:37:23 pm
'Cause monopolizing the playerbase in order to be able to take whatever you like is a much better scenario... oh wait, actually it is, because then battles are fought. Nevermind, carry on.



But on the other hand, we don't all have nearly a hundred players under our colors. There's just simply not as much one can do without that much manpower, particularly once enemy lines have already been established (in a conflict which we initiated, remember, even if you did make it official).

"do nothing" is absolutely wrong, too. You know, we were very close to attacking one of your villages before we noticed the twenty thousand tickets you sent in our direction. I might have started us marching already had I not been unexpectedly occupied in the beginning of last week. Your statement also disregards all the admittedly haphazard attacks we have sent your way. Proportionally, we're doing quite alright, certainly much more than you say.


And who'll complain about night time settings not accommodating "prime time" attacks and go on to initiate attacks after 4am.

lol canary+rage = sperg
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Gmnotutoo on June 12, 2013, 09:39:04 pm
'Cause monopolizing the playerbase in order to be able to take whatever you like is a much better scenario... oh wait, actually it is, because then battles are fought. Nevermind, carry on.



But on the other hand, we don't all have nearly a hundred players under our colors. There's just simply not as much one can do without that much manpower, particularly once enemy lines have already been established (in a conflict which we initiated, remember, even if you did make it official).

"do nothing" is absolutely wrong, too. You know, we were very close to attacking one of your villages before we noticed the twenty thousand tickets you sent in our direction. I might have started us marching already had I not been unexpectedly occupied in the beginning of last week. Your statement also disregards all the admittedly haphazard attacks we have sent your way. Proportionally, we're doing quite alright, certainly much more than you say.


And who'll complain about night time settings not accommodating "prime time" attacks and go on to initiate attacks after 4am.

Can I cry about how this war has completely ruined my interest in attacking Chaos again? I liked it better when it was just me. :(

Not only that, but Partyboy is selling the holy lands of BIRD CLAN and I will have nothing to protect. I'm pretty directionless right now.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 12, 2013, 09:50:32 pm
Can I cry about how this war has completely ruined my interest in attacking Chaos again? I liked it better when it was just me. :(

Not only that, but Partyboy is selling the holy lands of BIRD CLAN and I will have nothing to protect. I'm pretty directionless right now.

When in doubt, attack DRZ
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Gmnotutoo on June 13, 2013, 12:25:03 am
When in doubt, attack DRZ

Want to come help me? :)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 13, 2013, 12:54:00 am
I've been doing jack shit (recruiting troops) for almost 2 months now (even though I'm online all day for my job).  I'm out of town this weekend though, without internet so prob not a great time to start me marching to EU...

But I'd certainly be down

*actually* I did do something, I went and stole a few hundred trade goods from a neighbor in the middle of the night a few weeks ago
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Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on June 13, 2013, 01:03:18 am
If you guys are down, I am legitimately prepared to take one Frisian shiny army to fight the EU scum. We should make a crusade to Fisdnar. I'm sure FPF would be down.

I'm being totally balls-to-the-wall serious right now.
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Post by: Canary on June 13, 2013, 01:56:48 am
lol canary+rage = sperg

Yeah, I'm mad. Here I am getting most everything I could ask for out of strat - my clan members participating, varying kinds of fights, battles at heretofore uncontested maps, a few unexpected victories - and I'm the one that's mad.

Meanwhile you've just made a couple spam posts in Diplomacy, including this post that amounted to nothing more than an immature insult. Outlandish allegations against my faction aside, it seems like you're at a loss for words, my friend.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on June 13, 2013, 02:08:47 am
Yeah, I'm mad. Here I am getting most everything I could ask for out of strat - my clan members participating, varying kinds of fights, battles at heretofore uncontested maps, a few unexpected victories - and I'm the one that's mad.

Meanwhile you've just made a couple spam posts in Diplomacy, including this post that amounted to nothing more than an immature insult. Outlandish allegations against my faction aside, it seems like you're at a loss for words, my friend.

I like you canary even if you are a hippy hoplite with rabbit jumping and poking skills
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on June 13, 2013, 02:12:05 am
Yeah, I'm mad. Here I am getting most everything I could ask for out of strat - my clan members participating, varying kinds of fights, battles at heretofore uncontested maps, a few unexpected victories - and I'm the one that's mad.

Meanwhile you've just made a couple spam posts in Diplomacy, including this post that amounted to nothing more than an immature insult. Outlandish allegations against my faction aside, it seems like you're at a loss for words, my friend.

lol, you should thank us - we did all that for you - since you have done NOTHING to add to stratgeus for the rest of us.  had to initiate for you.  And yes your post was obvious you were mad.  You can type all you wan tlike youa re trying to write a paper for your professor doesn't make it any less obvious.  But honestly I dont care - keep warning me for "spamming" on the other thread because i made one post saying "lol."  You are so passive-aggresive its just sad, grow a pair of balls man.
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Post by: Canary on June 13, 2013, 02:15:35 am
I like you canary even if you are a hippy hoplite with rabbit jumping and poking skills

I'm trying to do like you said and make things interesting on the forum-war front... but because I mostly like you dudes, too, it's hard to do more than counterpoint Kesh and "his ways".



Rabbits, I hear, also put a lot of points in athletics to avoid strength crutching coyotes. You can also take this as an insult if it helps.




Edit: oh hey, Kesh posted again.


Dear Kesh,

Like Anders said, it takes two to tango. I am happy for the war, and for it I will thank you and your fellows.

And like I said, we actually struck the first blow to "initiate" this war (against Saxton... funny how neither he nor Malaclypse who attacked him are in the respective factions involved anymore), you guys made good on the act and made it official. I do, to some extent, agree with what you said at first, by the way, about taking up space and that stasis is bad, but I chose to defend my faction from your largely misplaced reasoning, must one be angry to do so?

Again you over-exaggerate and state something untrue about us. We have not done nothing. We goaded you into attacking us - gotcha.

More insults? Okay. Takes one to know one?

Even if I were angry right now, at least I take the time to collect my thoughts and post productively. You apparently do not, and so I will call you on it, whether I have to deal with it in an official capacity when it breaches the subforum rules or not.

Regards, Canary.

P.S. - at least I wasn't fuming and yelling at my mercenaries in teamspeak the last time my faction lost a battle.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 13, 2013, 05:55:07 am
Oi go take your piss mop action to a different drama/diplo thread. :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on June 13, 2013, 06:17:44 am



Rabbits, I hear, also put a lot of points in athletics to avoid strength crutching coyotes. You can also take this as an insult if it helps.


P.S. - at least I wasn't fuming and yelling at my mercenaries in teamspeak the last time my faction lost a battle.

I only have 21 str.. I shield crutch instead. So I am more turtle than coyote

Also he is not yelling he is inspiring with vigor!


also to stay on anders good side.. this last fight helped the fcc team kd a bit.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on June 13, 2013, 07:00:05 am
Kesh's true colors always show through when he is angry after having lost. He seems almost remotely kind of potentially likable when he's winning things, but once he loses something you see the sperg come to the surface.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Penguin on June 13, 2013, 07:22:41 am
Kesh's true colors always show through when he is angry after having lost. He seems almost remotely kind of potentially likable when he's winning things, but once he loses something you see the sperg come to the surface.

So basically the emotional maturity of a toddler. Adorable at times, but take their toytickets away and its non-stop crying until they forget why they're throwing a tantrum.
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Post by: dynamike on June 13, 2013, 07:31:07 am
Kesh's true colors always show through when he is angry after having lost. He seems almost remotely kind of potentially likable when he's winning things, but once he loses something you see the sperg come to the surface.

Not really. Kesh rages and can be an ass in TS at times, but he always apologizes when he overreacts and usually makes up for it when someone feels slighted. With the amount of effort he puts into organizing these battles (it's seriously a shit ton), it's understandable if some frustration shows.

I honestly have seen the same from most other battle leaders (especially from Arowaine, except in a lovably abusive, sexy french accent kind of way :D).
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Post by: SucculentHeadCrab on June 13, 2013, 07:34:40 am
Oi go take your piss mop action to a different drama/diplo thread. :evil: :evil:

Yeah, c'mon lads! Pack it in!

Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 13, 2013, 04:17:19 pm
Before my mommy cry, his mommy gonna cry first
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 17, 2013, 02:26:50 am
UPDATED!
Ok some notes: FCC has lost ANOTHER massive KDR chunk, down to 1.02 which is tied with Frisia and the republic of mates as best KDR.
MB has done one hell of a job and they have an(almost perfect) 1.00 KDR that is, sadly going to change over the course of the next day.
Jesus has a .98 KDR tied with TkoV's 0.99

FIDLGB and CHAOS have also both done good by increasing their KDLs by nearly +0.15!
Added Acre.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on June 17, 2013, 02:40:54 am
attacking castles will do that.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 17, 2013, 02:48:52 am
Actually, the field battles is what cost you alot. In paticular the one where you lost a 1600 man army with only 275 killed. That's like going 1:5.5. Chaos also took a hit when they lost YALIBE at 4k tickets with half that captured(though the ratio there was STILL lower than your field battle at only 1:3.5)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on June 17, 2013, 02:52:02 am
Actually, the field battles is what cost you alot. In paticular the one where you lost a 1600 man army with only 275 killed. That's like going 1:5.5. Chaos also took a hit when they lost YALIBE at 4k tickets with half that captured(though the ratio there was STILL lower than your field battle at only 1:3.5)

Now thats interesting - you actually used to count only actual people killed not those lost to flag cap - by that reckoning the flag cap in bulugur should have jumped us up to 1.4 but there was no real shift in our stats after that one - we killed 6700 tickets and lost 1500.  In that battle you refer to both sides had about equal number killed so it was all losses due to flag cap.  And yalibe we lost 1400 and killed 4400 by that  new reckoning of yours thats 3000 more tickets killed than dead compared to only 1350 with the open field flag cap.

Are you calculating each battles KDR than averaging or are you doing the more accurate taking all kill divided by all deaths from every battle?  The first skews it heavily based on tiny battles - whereas the latter is more accurate of a war.  To be honest doesnt really matter but it jus seems like the numbers dont add up correctly.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on June 17, 2013, 02:57:06 am
Now thats interesting - you actually used to count only actual people killed not those lost to flag cap - by that reckoning the flag cap in bulugur should have jumped us up to 1.4.  In that battle you refer to both sides had about equal number killed so it was all losses due to flag cap.

I HAVE been count flag cap losses. I NEVER stated I didn't. And I ALWAYS count flag caps.

Here's how it works. You take the ACTUAL killed DIVIDED by TOTAL LOSSES(flag caps too). SO, in effect, that means if you go over 1:1, you are killing more than you lose in timer or flag cap losses. The other team does not affect you, as that tally effects them and not you(except for the part of the direct killed).

I do it this way cause it's a measure of How many you kill compared to how many you "throw away". Thus while the KDR is not as high as it was, it is OVER 1 meaning FCC does a damn good job fighting, period.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on June 17, 2013, 03:00:16 am
I HAVE been count flag cap losses. I NEVER stated I didn't. And I ALWAYS count flag caps.

Here's how it works. You take the ACTUAL killed DIVIDED by TOTAL LOSSES(flag caps too). SO, in effect, that means if you go over 1:1, you are killing more than you lose in timer or flag cap losses. The other team does not affect you, as that tally effects them and not you(except for the part of the direct killed).

I do it this way cause it's a measure of How many you kill compared to how many you "throw away". Thus while the KDR is not as high as it was, it is OVER 1 meaning FCC does a damn good job fighting, period.

You mean our actual killed?  divided by their total losses? or our killed divided by our losses - sorry, not trying to be mean here and I appreciate the effort you put into this but shouldnt it be our total losses divided by their total losses?

I think I may be getting what you are saying - basically flag caps can only hurt the kdr of the side being capped - they cant actually add to the KDR of the side capping the flags.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Penguin on June 17, 2013, 03:01:48 am
Wouldn't it be more accurate and easier to just use total number killed vs total number lost. Why should unused tickets even factor in to a kill death ratio? Just do killed: died and use separate tally for total numbers lost, which would include tickets that got capped or wasted in a failed attack.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 17, 2013, 03:12:14 am
You mean our actual killed?  divided by their total losses? or our killed divided by our losses - sorry, not trying to be mean here and I appreciate the effort you put into this but shouldnt it be our total losses divided by their total losses?

No no! KDR is personal to faction. The other faction effects it in only 1 way: How well they kill you(your losses) and how well they die.
It's not really a "KDR" but more of a KLR or Kill/Losses Ratio.  So you take the Kills and divide by the number I have listed on the front page(the Losses) and that gets your KDR. Or alternatively, take your LOSSES and multiply by the KDR to determine how many tickets you have ACTUALLY killed. It works both ways.

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I think I may be getting what you are saying - basically flag caps can only hurt the kdr of the side being capped - they cant actually add to the KDR of the side capping the flags.

Correct. A flag cap means the faction getting capped suffers all those losses without fighting for them while only increasing their kills by a small margin. For example, (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=4000) that battle that you only killed 275 or so, but lost 1600. Your KDR is 275/1600 for that specific battle(or roughly 1:5.2 or so), while Chaos suffered 270 losses and killed 275 so they went 275/270 or 1:1.

Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 23, 2013, 03:19:22 am
wow, actually shuffled this to page 2!!!!!

Anyways, update is tomorrow!
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Post by: Lt_Anders on June 25, 2013, 05:32:51 pm
Alright! UPDATE!

First Off: BEST KDR, all time goes to FRISIA at 1.17. No one has gone higher than that.
MB has a respectable 1.11 as well.

Most factions haven't gone crazy on their overall stats. FCC is maintain their stats even with hundreds of battles and etc.
Chaos had a slight jump, LL did a little better too.

Enjoy.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on June 25, 2013, 05:43:12 pm
Cool stats, thx Anders
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Post by: Reinhardt on June 25, 2013, 08:19:56 pm
Added Acre.

Ah I see. The Crusders of Acre thank you. :P
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Post by: Lt_Anders on June 25, 2013, 10:04:30 pm
Ah I see. The Crusders of Acre thank you. :P

Heh.  :cry: :?
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Post by: Reinhardt on June 26, 2013, 04:47:18 am
Heh.  :cry: :?

It's okay. I won't Crusade you. :D ....yet
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Ethgar on June 26, 2013, 03:27:29 pm
Nicely done anders
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Post by: Lt_Anders on June 26, 2013, 05:31:26 pm
I think the KDs are more for the war than the performance of mercs. Meta-fiction over meta-game in this case.


Um...sure?
It's more of a effectivity Ratio. Over 1 and you are very very good at killing and loosing little troops to timer or other. Low means you lose lots of troops to time failures or caps.

Has anyone ever looked at the SECOND POST? It's got all your faction's battles there. Good way to go gloat!
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Post by: Malaclypse on June 28, 2013, 09:31:55 pm
Friday friday gotta get down on friday
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Post by: Matey on June 29, 2013, 07:38:36 am
Our precious KDR is going to drop after all these Dhirim sieges! TRAGIC!
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Post by: Keshian on June 29, 2013, 07:43:42 am
Our precious KDR is going to drop after all these Dhirim sieges! TRAGIC!

lol - silly pirate, kdrs are for tryhards
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Artyem on June 29, 2013, 07:52:06 am
Dhirim made my performance go from 6 to 2, that fucking city is a meat grinder.

I went 4 / 34 on that last siege too, after the first 10 deaths I said fuck it and just started running into the wall of pikes and great mauls.
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Post by: Sparvico on June 29, 2013, 08:12:08 am
That business at New Dhirim Fortress Rondel has been seriously enjoyable for us shield users. It's kinda nice to finally see the 2-handers taking a back seat. I mean they are incredibly good at what they do as well, but it is the strong shields of Dagger Keep that have truly kept the enemy at bay.
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Post by: Matey on June 29, 2013, 08:45:43 am
That business at New Dhirim Fortress Rondel has been seriously enjoyable for us shield users. It's kinda nice to finally see the 2-handers taking a back seat. I mean they are incredibly good at what they do as well, but it is the strong shields of Dagger Keep that have truly kept the enemy at bay.

I thought it was the great mauls and archers that were wrecking our shit.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Artyem on June 29, 2013, 10:20:25 am
The archers aren't shit compared to those god awful pikes combined with those god awful great mauls.  I can't even get a swing off without it bouncing off of a teammate behind me or without getting hit and knocked down 2 - 3 times before it even starts.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on June 29, 2013, 11:29:20 am
I walk in and get one shot by anyone on their team. Nerf Agi.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Malaclypse on June 29, 2013, 05:03:32 pm
P sure any Great Mauls we have are ones given to us by attackers, too. Some pretty hilarious moments in teamspeak for that Dhirim siege last night. Notably for myself was Horns saying on teamspeak, "I'm gonna make it! I'm gonna make it!" and appearing in the archway the next second only to be hit from behind with a Great Maul, knocked over, then killed, saying, "... I didn't make it".
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on June 29, 2013, 07:07:04 pm
P sure any Great Mauls we have are ones given to us by attackers, too. Some pretty hilarious moments in teamspeak for that Dhirim siege last night. Notably for myself was Horns saying on teamspeak, "I'm gonna make it! I'm gonna make it!" and appearing in the archway the next second only to be hit from behind with a Great Maul, knocked over, then killed, saying, "... I didn't make it".

That was fucking great. I don't appreciate too many people narrating their actions in battles, but Horns and Ryan from TkoV narrating are more than welcome any day.

My favorite part of last battle was Arowaine repeatedly charging out of the archway, emitting battle-cries that sounded like a cross between an American Indian warcry and a traitor rebel yell. I, of course, followed him each time. Nobody even told us to get back, it was great!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 29, 2013, 07:58:26 pm
The end of an Era:

With the invention of the new pie charts, do people still want me to continue this thread. You can, I think, get the same stuff I post here in there...I think. Can't tell exactly, but I believe it's possible.

Also, the Battle list tab is borked now. Cause it's all set to new links. SO I might need some new links for the battles that I have listed under old format.
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Post by: Winterly on June 30, 2013, 02:21:12 am
That business at New Dhirim Fortress Rondel has been seriously enjoyable for us shield users. It's kinda nice to finally see the 2-handers taking a back seat. I mean they are incredibly good at what they do as well, but it is the strong shields of Dagger Keep that have truly kept the enemy at bay.

I can't stress this enough. Without all those hero shielders, us archers would not be doing so well. I'm just glad the shielders are having some fun as well. Really looking forward to how tonight's battle will play out considering the nudge changes.
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Post by: Mayzer on June 30, 2013, 05:29:05 pm
Nothing has changed. FCC is still pouring troops into Dhirim, only to get put through the meat grinder.
We're actually thankful for all this meat -- we ran out of provisions weeks ago!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 01, 2013, 04:55:37 pm
Dhirim is some fun defending.

First experience I showed up an hour late to the siege and the defenders were in the keep holding out.  There was about 30 minutes left in the battle (this was 2 saturday's ago) and my bro TommyHu was over (blame him, that's why I was late) and he got a kick out of the defense being pushed back into the keep and holding out (while attackers would get at least 3 or 4 nice pushes into the keep).
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Post by: BaleOhay on July 02, 2013, 12:29:52 am
It was not meant to be taken...

Our first attack on the place amazingly pushed the attackers inside the door.. Thru the other. We cleared the stairs and the rooms above. With all attackers spawning in the last room we could not get a foothold thru the shield wall to get the job done.. Oh how I wish we did.


Defense has learned the trick. fall back in the first 10 mins and laugh the rest of the fight.
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Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on July 05, 2013, 09:11:36 am
I am disappointed that you will no longer be keeping track of the KDR of factions, because I was really enjoying the e-peen of having the best NA KDR. It's only gotten better since the last time you updated, as well.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on July 05, 2013, 03:34:34 pm
Incorrect. I will be continuing this since I found out the pie charts aren't cool enough. Though I'll wait a bit more for a few battles to go up before I start making adjustments. :twisted:

FCC prepare to have your KDR lowered  :wink:
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Post by: Lt_Anders on July 12, 2013, 04:22:00 pm
Well I finally had enough battles, and enough free time to update it.

Remember, KDR is really how effective you are at strat, more than just a KDR 8-).

(also cause of the 2500 man peasant slaughter, acre got horrible stats)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Malaclypse on July 12, 2013, 11:35:43 pm
Dracul beastmode BEASTMODE
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Post by: Keshian on July 12, 2013, 11:44:02 pm
Dracul beastmode BEASTMODE

yeah its a good start.  They had more kills but it was before the great war was "officially" declared by Anders.
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Post by: Artyem on July 13, 2013, 12:16:42 am
Dracul beastmode BEASTMODE

best K/D 2013 SUCK IT HOC
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Post by: Lt_Anders on July 20, 2013, 01:10:50 am
I seem to think I'm missing some battles in the second post. Anyone want to post any missing battles I have?

Also, EU's stop making shit tons of threads.
Also, Go ahead and use this thread for shit talking now. Its no fun letter other threads have all the fun. :mrgreen:
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Post by: Matey on July 20, 2013, 02:17:58 am
I seem to think I'm missing some battles in the second post. Anyone want to post any missing battles I have?

Also, EU's stop making shit tons of threads.
Also, Go ahead and use this thread for shit talking now. Its no fun letter other threads have all the fun. :mrgreen:

You suck.
Lieutenants suck.
People named Anders suck.
Your list sucks.
Your stats suck.
DL sucks.

p.s. ur gay.


Your move.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 20, 2013, 02:29:54 am
Well you know what, You're a bad pirate and I declare war on bad pirates :mrgreen: Not even a pirate theme seen yet. At least I keep to the merc theme :twisted:

Also: Mad cuz Bad. You'll get your chance for some K/D e-peen at some point.
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Post by: Matey on July 20, 2013, 03:03:10 am
Well you know what, You're a bad pirate and I declare war on bad pirates :mrgreen: Not even a pirate theme seen yet. At least I keep to the merc theme :twisted:

Also: Mad cuz Bad. You'll get your chance for some K/D e-peen at some point.

Once they add cutlasses, awesome coats and epic hats to the game... ill make a pirate army.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on July 20, 2013, 03:28:07 am
Once they add cutlasses, awesome coats and epic hats to the game... ill make a pirate army.

Italian Falchion, Kaftan.

Now, for the hats, I agree. Need more epic hats.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on July 20, 2013, 03:53:13 am
Italian Falchion, Kaftan.

Now, for the hats, I agree. Need more epic hats.

italian falchion is ok... grosse messer is ok too... but i dont want "ok" i want actual good pirate gear. fucking biased devs putting in ninja shit but no pirate stuff!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Gmnotutoo on July 20, 2013, 04:34:28 am
italian falchion is ok... grosse messer is ok too... but i dont want "ok" i want actual good pirate gear. fucking biased devs putting in ninjasamurai shit but no pirate stuff!

The only ninja weapons in the game are shurikens and snowflakes.

The Katana and wakizashi are not ninja weapons but a Ninjato is, I should probably suggest that gets put into the mod.
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Post by: Matey on July 20, 2013, 04:46:59 am
The only ninja weapons in the game are shurikens and snowflakes.

The Katana and wakizashi are not ninja weapons but a Ninjato is, I should probably suggest that gets put into the mod.

you forgot the hood with mask. thats pretty damn ninja.
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Post by: Gmnotutoo on July 20, 2013, 04:59:48 am
you forgot the hood with mask. thats pretty damn ninja.

=p That has been around far longer than ninjas, it just get associated with it today.
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Post by: Matey on July 20, 2013, 05:08:02 am

Also: Mad cuz Bad. You'll get your chance for some K/D e-peen at some point.

check battle history archive and look at FCC... in all our hordes of battles (of which we are usually attacker) we actually only account for like 46%? of the losses in battles we have been in! your stats are wrong anders! WRONG! THE PIE GRAPH NEVER LIES!!!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 20, 2013, 05:28:08 am
check battle history archive and look at FCC... in all our hordes of battles (of which we are usually attacker) we actually only account for like 46%? of the losses in battles we have been in! your stats are wrong anders! WRONG! THE PIE GRAPH NEVER LIES!!!

Doesn't count unused tickets in losses, only kills.
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Post by: Artyem on July 20, 2013, 07:23:40 am
http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4476

We lost but took 188 tickets over them.
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Post by: Keshian on July 20, 2013, 07:57:50 am
http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4476

We lost but took 188 tickets over them.

i think the plate armor might have helped, you guys were really tough to kill in that ugly frisian jester armor - should use your theme armor of bear fur, its prettier.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Artyem on July 20, 2013, 08:07:42 am
i think the plate armor might have helped, you guys were really tough to kill in that ugly frisian jester armor - should use your theme armor of bear fur, its prettier.

Actually, the Byrnja isn't in our theme at all, I only use it because it looks decent for a lower/mid tier.  We basically are fitting our theme in this transitional, since we originally used just basic Heraldic armor with a toss up of Eastern European gear.  We also have no place to buy +3 Byrnjas, but if we did they would be used a lot more than those goofy druzhina mails.
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Post by: Artyem on July 21, 2013, 07:38:00 am
http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4494

Tiny, but another battle in the Raven/Dracul war against Acre.

Nice work Acre, you guys did well for being outnumbered, we took a lot more casualties than was expected.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on July 28, 2013, 10:36:40 pm
SOrry I haven't been updating. Got a shit ton of work for the end of semester to do. Come friday I should actually have free time to update this.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on August 02, 2013, 05:03:16 pm
Hey guys, guess what! I UPDATED IT!

Enjoy!
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Post by: Malaclypse on August 03, 2013, 12:10:14 am
OMG we're on the board!
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Post by: Artyem on August 03, 2013, 12:12:21 am
We lost our #1 K/D, looks like the world is safe...


FOR NOW
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Post by: Kalam on August 03, 2013, 12:36:22 am
i think the plate armor might have helped, you guys were really tough to kill in that ugly frisian jester armor - should use your theme armor of bear fur, its prettier.

I think the real question is why we don't use gambesons.
WHY?
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Post by: Jack1 on August 03, 2013, 12:52:48 am
We lost our #1 K/D, looks like the world is safe...


FOR NOW

*reads list*

Yessssss

*opens spoiler*

GOD DAMMIT
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 03, 2013, 05:25:34 am
Yup Golden Apple Corps have a miraculous 2.0 KDR.(not even counting the sneak attack versus tanken)
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Post by: Malaclypse on August 03, 2013, 05:30:00 am
Yup, time to disband on top haha
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 09, 2013, 08:11:38 pm
Stop moving this to the second page. It's a pain to keep the second page of battle listings up to date!
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Post by: Zaren on August 09, 2013, 08:51:45 pm
idk about including the blood battle today in the astralis wars section...seems it was an accident
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Post by: Lt_Anders on August 09, 2013, 09:41:01 pm
idk about including the blood battle today in the astralis wars section...seems it was an accident

And are they going to just NOT fight?
Well they did.... (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattleroster&id=4781) albiet not a full fledged effort but it was a few mercs there...
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Krosis on August 09, 2013, 09:43:44 pm
Yup Golden Apple Corps have a miraculous 2.0 KDR.(not even counting the sneak attack versus tanken)

I guess it should be noted that sJimmy was never really in Golden Apple Corps.. his attack on Tanken happened during a fief transfer.. we had no clue he was doing it.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 09, 2013, 09:43:48 pm
Well Asstrails declared war on Blood...so not sure how it's an accident they attacked you.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on August 09, 2013, 10:11:20 pm
I guess it should be noted that sJimmy was never really in Golden Apple Corps.. his attack on Tanken happened during a fief transfer.. we had no clue he was doing it.

I'm not counting it for a good reason.

But your K/D will likely go down with the actual battle you had not long ago versus TAA.
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Post by: arowaine on August 10, 2013, 04:29:08 am
update it we had like a few battle against fcc this week at them all
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 10, 2013, 04:39:52 am
If I'm not busy, updates happen Sunday.

Otherwise, it'll be whenever. Sunday will be this update.(last one was within a week)
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Post by: ildist on August 10, 2013, 06:40:58 am
rip in peace republic of mates
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Post by: Jack1 on August 10, 2013, 06:43:23 am
rip in peace
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Post by: Socks on August 10, 2013, 06:50:45 am
gf nerds.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Jack1 on August 10, 2013, 07:49:40 pm
acemad's men won a hard fought battle for Frisia. He ended up capturing 425 of the locals. Jack was with him as he decided what to do with them.

Acemad: we should probably leave them alone.

Jack1: no, we shall make as large of a profit as possable upon our enemies. They shall be sold into the Frisian sex slave trade. You shall take the profits for yourself.

Acemad: sounds fine to me, I'm going to give three to you though cause I know how you just love having your little playthings.

Jack: sweet, I pick those three.(points to Zulu donkeybulge, Reinhardt, and N James)

When jack makes it back to his camp he puts the three up on a large stand for all of his army to gather around.

Jack: James, you have two choices. Would you prefer death or bunga bunga?   

James: well I really don't want to die. I pick bunga bunga.

Jack: so be it.

Jack then throws N James into the surrounding crowd to be raped to death.

Jack: Reinhardt, you have the same choices. Death or bunga bunga?

Reinhardt: well I'm a little stronger than James, I pick bunga bunga.

Jack then throws Reinhardt into the crowd. He lasts a little longer but soon enough the rape was not enough for him to consider life valuable anymore.

Jack: Zulu, your turn,

Zulu donkeybulge: well I really don't want to die like that so I'm just going to pick death.

Jack: ok men you heard him. Now he shall die... By bunga bunga!

Jack then kicks Zulu into the crowd and has the same fate as the rest.





Later that day arrowaine came into jack1's camp and told him of an army that tried to escape. Jacks men departed chanting " bunga..... Bunga...... Bunga....." On into the night.

To be continued.
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Post by: Thumper on August 10, 2013, 09:10:56 pm
bunga bunga!

I thought it was Snu Snu  :)
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Post by: Zaren on August 10, 2013, 09:43:08 pm
And are they going to just NOT fight?
Well they did.... (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattleroster&id=4781) albiet not a full fledged effort but it was a few mercs there...

1. Their leader unsigned all their troops-he doesnt know who put them back on(he apologised for an accidental attack and said there would be no fight-his mistake his loss)
Well Asstrails declared war on Blood...so not sure how it's an accident they attacked you.
2.We declared war on blood FOLLOWING their attack on striters castle. Since it was an accident there is no war.
3.the accident was he was using an iphone and clicked attack instead of trade.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Jack1 on August 11, 2013, 07:37:37 am
bunga bunga was chanted though the night along with many screams, tears, and blood.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on August 12, 2013, 05:02:19 pm
Alright! UPDATE!

3/4 of a million troops lost since February!

NEED recent battles versus blood.(TKOV one, and some astralis ones for records)

Looks like FCC will never change it's Effectivity ratio of .99(1).

Acre will be removed from listings as I believe they merged into FCC.

No more 2.0 or above KDR. Need Golden Apple Corps battles for Nova Ibiran. I'm missing I believe 2.

Frisia Lost KDR.

ENJOY!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Malaclypse on August 12, 2013, 08:00:16 pm
GAC sacking of Nova Ibiran (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4749)

GAC peasant defense of Nova Ibiran  (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4798)
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Post by: HeraldOfTheGOBBLINKING on August 12, 2013, 08:53:01 pm
Alright! UPDATE!

3/4 of a million troops lost since February!

NEED recent battles versus blood.(TKOV one, and some astralis ones for records)

Looks like FCC will never change it's Effectivity ratio of .99(1).

Acre will be removed from listings as I believe they merged into FCC.

No more 2.0 or above KDR. Need Golden Apple Corps battles for Nova Ibiran. I'm missing I believe 2.

Frisia Lost KDR.

ENJOY!
Did you combine SS's KDR with FUPA? Because .66 seems a bit off based on the fact that FUPA has only had 2 battles, and one of them we had over 2.0 KDR. We are not SS. SS is still a clan, and theres still a SS Faction.

EDIT: FUPA's battles
http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4747
http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4759
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 12, 2013, 11:03:55 pm
I have a HUBA (hairy upper butt area)...I seriously thought I made that word up, and just did a quick google search "huba urban dictionary" and I see there's an entry for this exact thing from 2005 :x

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=huba

I'm assuming since you're men, FUPA means fat upper penis area?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: HeraldOfTheGOBBLINKING on August 13, 2013, 12:31:18 am
I have a HUBA (hairy upper butt area)...I seriously thought I made that word up, and just did a quick google search "huba urban dictionary" and I see there's an entry for this exact thing from 2005 :x

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=huba

I'm assuming since you're men, FUPA means fat upper penis area?
Fat Upper Pubic Area, that way we don't have to discriminate.
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Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 13, 2013, 03:07:21 am
Did you combine SS's KDR with FUPA? Because .66 seems a bit off based on the fact that FUPA has only had 2 battles, and one of them we had over 2.0 KDR. We are not SS. SS is still a clan, and theres still a SS Faction.

EDIT: FUPA's battles
http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4747
http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4759

I did. Did you not read what it said right Under FUPA title and above losses? Stated "Old Semenstorm."

Do you want me to Change that?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: HeraldOfTheGOBBLINKING on August 13, 2013, 07:13:38 am
I did. Did you not read what it said right Under FUPA title and above losses? Stated "Old Semenstorm."

Do you want me to Change that?
I didn't read that part, sorry. Yes, if possible FUPA would like to be separate from Semenstorm.
Thanks Anders and sorry for the inconvenience.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on August 13, 2013, 02:57:56 pm
I didn't read that part, sorry. Yes, if possible FUPA would like to be separate from Semenstorm.
Thanks Anders and sorry for the inconvenience.

Naw, no problem. That means Semestorm is officially dead then I guess.

I'll make the changes.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: MURDERTRON on August 13, 2013, 03:11:00 pm
Can you take all of our good scores and file it under Good FCC and then take all of our bad scores and throw them out? Then multiply by 6, subtract 7, then solve with the quadratic formula and we should be good to go.  Thanks.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on August 13, 2013, 03:29:14 pm
Can you take all of our good scores and file it under Good FCC and then take all of our bad scores and throw them out? Then multiply by 6, subtract 7, then solve with the quadratic formula and we should be good to go.  Thanks.

Quadratic would actually lower your score. You square you score, the add it together, square root and then add that number and finally divide.
In general, a quadratic gives a lower value than you would think. Of course, being a math function, it depends on 3 variables.

Also, since I only have 2 variables, you'd be super low.
A = Losses
B = Kills

Huh, I actually used the quadratic on your KDR. You got either 0.99(current) or 0(due to the minus part). So which one do you want?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: MURDERTRON on August 13, 2013, 06:20:37 pm
Quadratic would actually lower your score. You square you score, the add it together, square root and then add that number and finally divide.
In general, a quadratic gives a lower value than you would think. Of course, being a math function, it depends on 3 variables.

Also, since I only have 2 variables, you'd be super low.
A = Losses
B = Kills

Huh, I actually used the quadratic on your KDR. You got either 0.99(current) or 0(due to the minus part). So which one do you want?

I literally do not care.  Flip a coin.  But don't tell me with words. I want charts and maybe a Venn diagram.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 13, 2013, 06:43:25 pm
lol math

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Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 27, 2013, 06:03:35 pm
Just a little update. Not enough battles anymore for weekly updates. Hell, I had half as many updates as I did a few weeks ago.

Get cracking and bash in more skulls, drink from them and then make drama!
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 27, 2013, 06:24:34 pm
Can we get all the faction leaders together and agree to start yolo'ing open field battles every night?  I only get to play about every other night if I'm lucky and there's never any battles when I'm on :(
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Post by: sWalker on August 27, 2013, 07:16:30 pm
The sWalker agrees to this "YOLO" attacking, if this entails fights everynight  :D.
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Post by: BaleOhay on August 27, 2013, 10:55:53 pm
I would be fine with this if people wanted to start discussing getting attacks on places no one has seen.

That would require not being back-stabbed the moment we left to provide fun for the community
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Post by: Bronto on August 27, 2013, 10:59:55 pm
Can we do a couple during the day too? I'm not around very much at night time due to a busy schedule.
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 27, 2013, 11:02:26 pm
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I keed...I don't see why day time battles couldn't happen too (there's plenty of people who work night jobs or go to school during the day, or who are too poor/ignorant to move to America so they are only on during NA day hours). 

Also Matey, I would also hope that if battles were agreed upon, that people would stop trying to attack fiefs of those members fighting....obviously not everyone will be on board I imagine, so you can't control some of those loose cannons. 
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Post by: Matey on August 27, 2013, 11:10:18 pm
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I keed...I don't see why day time battles couldn't happen too (there's plenty of people who work night jobs or go to school during the day, or who are too poor/ignorant to move to America so they are only on during NA day hours). 

Also Matey, I would also hope that if battles were agreed upon, that people would stop trying to attack fiefs of those members fighting....obviously not everyone will be on board I imagine, so you can't control some of those loose cannons.

The easy solution is to just not send out people who own fiefs. If you own a fief you should be inside it! I personally have a hard time seeing FCC being too eager to send out lots of armies for field battles though considering our enemies can afford going 1:1 while we cannot.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on August 27, 2013, 11:59:35 pm
end the wars and lets get down to some fighting! people can sign for either side.. I would love to attack Narra just to fight on the map it and a ton of other places
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on August 28, 2013, 12:29:29 am
Just a little update. Not enough battles anymore for weekly updates. Hell, I had half as many updates as I did a few weeks ago.

Get cracking and bash in more skulls, drink from them and then make drama!

Reason:

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive)

FCC stopped being the attackers, because so many factions were attacking us.  But even with all those individual factions attacking us they have less than 1/3rd the number of attacks per week (ignoring the 100+ hospitaller attacks on 100 man unarmed armies) that FCC alone would do on the warpath.  Sorry, until the carebear alliance crumbles in upon itself (not likely since so many factions share a common teamspeak, which is funny since FCC has 4 different teamspeaks of the various companies within the free companies) this boring eu style strat is liekly to continue.  I know this is what we have been mostly fighting this whole strat, but a faction came from eu and brought that exact mentality with it and its slowly spread among their allies.

Basically the plague is this: take no risks whatsoever for fear of losing troops and gear in a silly internet game and "losing strategus" - never go balls deep attacking cities with 3K+ troops, never send 5 armies to intercept various armies guaranteed to lose just to teleport one guy to eu, never atatck castles and cities unless the odds are overwhelmingly in your favor (do have to give props to ll and hospies for at least having balls as a much smaller faction than occitan to repeatedly attack ichamur), never risk a war as an attacker where you commit tens of thousands of troops even though you have multiple other enemies   - all these characteristics are distinctly the american balls-to-the wall spirit and it actually really sucks to see so much french white flagging popping up across the strategus map.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Kaelaen on August 28, 2013, 12:36:15 am
Can we get all the faction leaders together and agree to start yolo'ing open field battles every night?  I only get to play about every other night if I'm lucky and there's never any battles when I'm on :(

That would be pretty awesome.  At this point I do wonder how many people even care anymore?  The trash talking is either uninspired or repetitive, the actual battles are . . . there's been like what, 2 NA fights in the last two days?  Two of which were just attacking random Chinese people?  If everyone who is involved in their faction's strat holdings could get together and work something out, for the community, that would just be peachy.

Or you know, we could continue what we always do and continue to hate the shit out of each other.  And then sit in our impregnable cities/castles glaring at dots.  I don't know, I'd be perfectly fine trading away the aforementioned boring trash talk if it involved getting more fun battles throughout the day.  Yeah I'm with a lot of people in the opinion that strat sucks, but that's just because at the moment you can't really do shit without keeping in mind a whole bunch of other shit (at least, if you want your dots to still be on the map.)

Of course, working together to create fun, no more backstabbing each other, that doesn't sit well with some people *COUGH*CertainFCCFactionLeaderWhosNameStartsWitha"K"*COUGH*.  So I doubt it would ever happen, but it's nice to dream.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on August 28, 2013, 12:49:46 am
like I said we can easily make it happen. Just takes a few people to come to the table. I am sure the vast majority of FCC would rather be fighting even if it means giving back what we take just to be doing something..

I know you guys hate what kesh says but he is not wrong all the time.. and occitan alliance attacking style is boring.

Arowaine and crew want to make strat fun again? Lets announce our fights plan them out stop caring "who wins".. Ravens, Chaos, TKup? MB? and everyone else lets do this thing..
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Jack1 on August 28, 2013, 01:44:43 am
bunga bunga bunga
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on August 28, 2013, 01:57:11 am
I would love to see the narra map


Ravens you guys care if we send a force to have a go at it? Equal up the numbers.. If we actually win we will give the darn place right back

All those people at war with us lets squish the war and have some fun instead. hell blow my mind and some of you actually sign up for us

come on all you guys have to have some maps you always wanted to try but due to alliances and friendships never got the chance.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Goretooth on August 28, 2013, 02:17:23 am
Reason:

FCC is scared to lose strat again.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on August 28, 2013, 02:22:34 am
If you think so. We have plenty of troops and gear for all of them. Have been able to trade without problems even with armies around. Occitan has yet to attack anything remotely scary for them. It is boring and getting worse. At this rate 6 months from now we will all be in the exact same position.
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Post by: Canary on August 28, 2013, 04:44:08 am
I would love to see the narra map

Fun fact: we (Chaos/FIDLGB) were planning to attack Narra because of its interesting map before we decided to try and get into a war with FCC. The reason we changed our mind was because the siege engines were broken and we weren't sure they were going to be fixed soon enough.



I'd enjoy fighting for the sake of fighting, but I fear it would lose the interest of sincerity to go at it with full-out pre-arranged battles. It would give less meaning to the resources players have gathered and would detract from the importance of their involvement because of that. It'd also reduce the hostility between warring factions, which is not entirely a bad thing, but the fun of having a "bad guy" would be all but removed, save for the purposes of roleplaying.

Still, working out a good way to have some war is better than not having (active) war at all.
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Post by: Keshian on August 28, 2013, 05:02:23 am
If you actually work out the numbers - FCC has fought almost 1 battle a day since the start of strat and its not attacking afks with 100 unarmed troops - we have on average used up 700 troops a day in fighting with good gear, which equates to roughly 400-500K xp a day for strategus players if we did a  1 to 1 against our opponents.  We have done the brutal role of having to attack castles and cities and have taken over 8 castles and cities by force alone - allowing people to fight on different maps.

Castles and cities are so rarely attacked its a lot of fun to fight on them as they are such rare events - our members had a lot of fun filling our roster in attacking almost a dozen different castles and cities over the course of strategus.  Pretty much what im saying is your alliance outnumbers us over 3 to 1, its your turn now to do what we did for the rest of the strategus community instead of playing it safe for another 12 months over some silly strategus game.  Are we really expected to initiate the attacks even now with most of na fighting us?

Let me tell you - knudarr and tilbaut are some fun castles to fight in :)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Relit on August 28, 2013, 05:03:56 am
I would love to see the narra map


Ravens you guys care if we send a force to have a go at it? Equal up the numbers.. If we actually win we will give the darn place right back

I will talk to the Raven guys and see about it. I will get back to you soon either way.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Rhalzo on August 28, 2013, 05:31:54 am
I would love to see the narra map

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Narra is a beautiful map. I'd like to see how much of it is actually accessible by the defenders/attackers.

As Canary said a few posts back, we had planned on attacking it but then the siege equipment went to hell and we called it off. That lead to a not as much fun set of events.
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Post by: Goretooth on August 28, 2013, 05:44:50 am
If you actually work out the numbers - FCC has fought almost 1 battle a day since the start of strat and its not attacking afks with 100 unarmed troops - we have on average used up 700 troops a day in fighting with good gear, which equates to roughly 400-500K xp a day for strategus players if we did a  1 to 1 against our opponents.  We have done the brutal role of having to attack castles and cities and have taken over 8 castles and cities by force alone - allowing people to fight on different maps.

Castles and cities are so rarely attacked its a lot of fun to fight on them as they are such rare events - our members had a lot of fun filling our roster in attacking almost a dozen different castles and cities over the course of strategus.  Pretty much what im saying is your alliance outnumbers us over 3 to 1, its your turn now to do what we did for the rest of the strategus community instead of playing it safe for another 12 months over some silly strategus game.  Are we really expected to initiate the attacks even now with most of na fighting us?

Let me tell you - knudarr and tilbaut are some fun castles to fight in :)
Come fight me on the open field. Those are fun and I know FCC always does bad at them. ;)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on August 28, 2013, 05:55:42 am
If you actually work out the numbers - FCC has fought almost 1 battle a day since the start of strat and its not attacking afks with 100 unarmed troops - we have on average used up 700 troops a day in fighting with good gear, which equates to roughly 400-500K xp a day for strategus players if we did a  1 to 1 against our opponents.  We have done the brutal role of having to attack castles and cities and have taken over 8 castles and cities by force alone - allowing people to fight on different maps.

Castles and cities are so rarely attacked its a lot of fun to fight on them as they are such rare events - our members had a lot of fun filling our roster in attacking almost a dozen different castles and cities over the course of strategus.  Pretty much what im saying is your alliance outnumbers us over 3 to 1, its your turn now to do what we did for the rest of the strategus community instead of playing it safe for another 12 months over some silly strategus game.  Are we really expected to initiate the attacks even now with most of na fighting us?

Let me tell you - knudarr and tilbaut are some fun castles to fight in :)

Bring armies over to the fields between New Rindyar Castle and New Tilbaut Castle. Get them there tomorrow by 10:00 PM CST at the latest. Get them ready to be initiated on tomorrow afternoon, leading to battles on friday night. We'll attack them. Cavalry deserves more field battles, they don't happen anymore.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Oreo on August 28, 2013, 06:09:55 am
why does it seem Kesh is obsessed with his clan like no other.. lol

trying to 'prove' that his clan is the 'best'
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: arowaine on August 28, 2013, 08:13:20 am

Let me tell you - knudarr and tilbaut are some fun castles to fight in :)

correction to defend in :D

ps: ill love to attack and have fun figth but i can't, my carebear alliance is not even able to fill up a roster with 51 merc .Im personally stuck into siting on my ass ...sorry i wish i had more french flag to send but I don't. Feel free to point other faction that are not participating into strat i guess...but keep in mind you annihilate so many of them, that most of them just lost the interest into the game, losing is not to bad but being completly wipe of the map and have no other choice then became a vasal or quit is no fun, most people usualy end up quitting anyways.

A other point and there is no offence toward anyone here! it is really unfortunate to hear that we are carebear alliance while fcc is compose of those following faction(fcc-brd-unicorn-cavaliere-bs/aow/teutonic/acre/black compagnie/fallen/remnant/hg).

Still love the entire community(even kesh) and im glad to give the credit to fcc who fougth that long, VE was a great opponent too, also wana say gj on hosp for staying alive that long, LL for not quiting after being wipe 2 time if its not 3... frisia great job in this strat started small stayed with your own name become something, fidlgb you are doing a great job as a small faction im sure you can be proud of you, raven you guys have bring some good figth as astralis,chaos, ss, fupa, blood, tkov, mb, hoc and many more.

BUT in my book Lco still the Greatest faction! The strange northen people who talk a other language still manage to do a lot into this strat ! Long Live The Northen Empire...Long Live The Mates
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Post by: Matey on August 28, 2013, 09:59:45 am


but keep in mind you annihilate so many of them, that most of them just lost the interest into the game, losing is not to bad but being completly wipe of the map and have no other choice then became a vasal or quit is no fun, most people usualy end up quitting anyways.

A other point and there is no offence toward anyone here! it is really unfortunate to hear that we are carebear alliance while fcc is compose of those following faction(fcc-brd-unicorn-cavaliere-bs/aow/teutonic/acre/black compagnie/fallen/remnant/hg).



I like the majority of your post! I even +d it. But I also feel I should point out the contradiction that I quoted. You accuse us of driving everyone out and wiping people out so they quit... but then you went on to name all the people who did not quit but instead decided to combine their efforts so they could keep active in strat and continue having fun. You also mentioned LL and Hospitaller who are both quite involved in strat still and perhaps I am wrong to assume this... but I assume some of their activity is motivated by an interest in paying back the FCC for some of their defeats this strat!

It is very hard to know how things COULD have been if various things did not happen or if other things did happen but I personally feel that FCC has actually kept more people interested in strat than it has driven away! If we had sat around playing nice with everyone then I am sure we would have quit out of boredom (like in strat 3) and perhaps many others would have as well. But who knows?

Anyways; more fights, more fun and more xp!
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Post by: Goretooth on August 28, 2013, 10:56:03 am
I like the majority of your post! I even +d it. But I also feel I should point out the contradiction that I quoted. You accuse us of driving everyone out and wiping people out so they quit... but then you went on to name all the people who did not quit but instead decided to combine their efforts so they could keep active in strat and continue having fun. You also mentioned LL and Hospitaller who are both quite involved in strat still and perhaps I am wrong to assume this... but I assume some of their activity is motivated by an interest in paying back the FCC for some of their defeats this strat!

It is very hard to know how things COULD have been if various things did not happen or if other things did happen but I personally feel that FCC has actually kept more people interested in strat than it has driven away! If we had sat around playing nice with everyone then I am sure we would have quit out of boredom (like in strat 3) and perhaps many others would have as well. But who knows?

Anyways; more fights, more fun and more xp!
I know you like to hide and run away. If you say you want xp i'm waiting and easy to find.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on August 28, 2013, 01:00:25 pm
Well i tried to get some things going before rome 2 comes out. guess it will not happen. Continue to sit and wait us out it is working... we are bored and playing other games.

Or we can make it fun and actually use all these tickets and gear before strat ends
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: ArysOakheart on August 28, 2013, 01:33:08 pm
Free Peasants are best you all suck.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: dynamike on August 28, 2013, 03:14:58 pm
I've offered it before to Chopas, nobody took me up on it - will offer it again:

We have a shit ton of troops sitting on their asses and getting fat and lazy in Derpcheetos Castle. I understand nobody has the balls to attack it, since it's actually a decent defence castle.

So my offer: meet us for a field battle in front of the castle and we'll be there for monitor tan, XP and glory!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Aderyn on August 28, 2013, 03:25:55 pm
You accuse us of driving everyone out and wiping people out so they quit... but then you went on to name all the people who did not quit but instead decided to combine their efforts so they could keep active in strat and continue having fun. You also mentioned LL and Hospitaller who are both quite involved in strat still and perhaps I am wrong to assume this... but I assume some of their activity is motivated by an interest in paying back the FCC for some of their defeats this strat!

We had quite a few in the beginning of the round but then the entire world declared war on us and alot got burned out. We then fought on with around 7-10 members (rest being inactive) and has been untill now.

Would the players that stayed still of played even if we didn't get ganked on by everyone? Most likely.
Would the players that left strat have stayed if we would of gotten a better start? Hard to say, but in retrospect, they sure didn't stay so higher chance.

So unfortunly you cannot give yourself glory that we are still around. =)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Turboflex on August 28, 2013, 03:44:33 pm
Strat is really tedious. To take Yruma castle we had to send like 6 waves at guys hidden in a buggy castle wall, with loomed heraldic plate and great mauls. Since nobody wants to do that, we started to get merc problems too, making it even more tedious. All that for some stupid pixel assets,  in a game where the economy is broken anyways and gold/assets hardly even matter anymore when everyone has tens of millions of gold. I can't think of many fiefs out there where the defenders don't have 20k troops to pump into it.

Overall strat battles are much lower quality of gameplay than NA1.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Aderyn on August 28, 2013, 04:52:59 pm
I would like to see it tougher to get money in next strat and higher upkeepcost for troops. Should Give us more battles with Armies that doesn't have 100% plate.

Ergo, making a 1600 full plate army would be scary as shit in such a strat. And it would be impossible to keep these 10k+ all-around garrissons.
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Post by: Keshian on August 28, 2013, 05:00:06 pm

ps: ill love to attack and have fun figth but i can't, my carebear alliance is not even able to fill up a roster with 51 merc

No offense but this is completely bullshit.  You have 60 people just from your ts alone - occitan, chevalieres, chaos, fidlgb, and mb - then you can get hospitallers, FUPA, frisians, lost legion and astralis (let us know they have merc agreement with you and cant sign for us against you).  Pretty much 80% of the map mercs for you and all the recent battles you had full rosters long before us.  Only reason you would not be able to get full roster is pure laziness as minimal effort is needed, whereas we have to let almost every neutral merc on the map know every time we have a battle (though youmay spend 1.5 million crpg gold buying them as mercs as well to prevent us having them).  This doesn't even include all your UIF buddies, amny of whom do well on na ping.

You outnumber us 3x with troops and merc pool and resources with your massive alliance and you are still acting like you are some kind of underdog who can't attack because you are too weak, meanwhile you sit in the desert with 10K+ troops in each castle and city even though you no longer have any enemies left on the map except us, most of it allied with you to attack us.  We have done far more with a lot less - grow a fucking pair of balls already, its a game.


P.S. Turboflex - NA1 is boring as hell, no tactics, mad melee with no organization.  Only reason most of us even play anymore is for strat ticks and fighting fun strategus battles.  If there was no strategus there would be very little reason to play this game anymore that you couldn't just get from native with more balance than what this game has become favoring heavy cav and strength builds.
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Post by: Kaelaen on August 28, 2013, 05:21:55 pm
As someone who regularly mercs for both sides under different names, from my experience you're both wrong.  Everyone gets mercing problems.  It's understandable for both of you to think it's only your side struggling however because you guys want to win the fights, so you more or less have to fight tooth and nail to fill any roster.  Because there's only so many people who bother to play in NA anymore who can be bothered to sign up for strat battles.

Believe it or not Kesh I actually feel we struggle less in filling our roster because of one thing: you.  You're the most active recruiter I've ever seen, constantly bugging people on steam or jumping on their teamspeak and reminding everyone when the battle is happening and all that.  -That- dedication I don't see coming whenever I'm on the other side, I have to  :rolleyes: 'remember' when the hell the battle is actually happening if the wrong side signs me because I don't have a convenient friendly reminder from you to tell me to get on.  It's convenient for some people, grates on others, but fact of the matter is you work hard to fill our rosters, so our rosters tend to be full.

More of the bigger factions in NA may or may not be more willing to fight in name under the LCO banner maybe, but we're not exactly empty all the time either.  This is just purely a case of the grass looking greener on the other side.  Anyway, I should stop dissipating the propagandists now because it doesn't look like the big factions are going to want to come to an understanding.  Not that it's a bad thing mind you.  If the people who just want decent battles wants them to happen, then they should take more of a command role in the strat map.  Otherwise, this is still a game for people who manage to find motivation in it, as Canary mentioned a few posts back.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Chestaclese on August 28, 2013, 05:49:11 pm
I've offered it before to Chopas, nobody took me up on it - will offer it again:

We have a shit ton of troops sitting on their asses and getting fat and lazy in Derpcheetos Castle. I understand nobody has the balls to attack it, since it's actually a decent defence castle.

So my offer: meet us for a field battle in front of the castle and we'll be there for monitor tan, XP and glory!

Trained exotic donkeys go to the winner.
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Post by: Aderyn on August 28, 2013, 05:59:43 pm
As someone who regularly mercs for both sides under different names, from my experience you're both wrong.  Everyone gets mercing problems.  It's understandable for both of you to think it's only your side struggling however because you guys want to win the fights, so you more or less have to fight tooth and nail to fill any roster.  Because there's only so many people who bother to play in NA anymore who can be bothered to sign up for strat battles.

Believe it or not Kesh I actually feel we struggle less in filling our roster because of one thing: you.  You're the most active recruiter I've ever seen, constantly bugging people on steam or jumping on their teamspeak and reminding everyone when the battle is happening and all that.  -That- dedication I don't see coming whenever I'm on the other side, I have to  :rolleyes: 'remember' when the hell the battle is actually happening if the wrong side signs me because I don't have a convenient friendly reminder from you to tell me to get on.  It's convenient for some people, grates on others, but fact of the matter is you work hard to fill our rosters, so our rosters tend to be full.

More of the bigger factions in NA may or may not be more willing to fight in name under the LCO banner maybe, but we're not exactly empty all the time either.  This is just purely a case of the grass looking greener on the other side.  Anyway, I should stop dissipating the propagandists now because it doesn't look like the big factions are going to want to come to an understanding.  Not that it's a bad thing mind you.  If the people who just want decent battles wants them to happen, then they should take more of a command role in the strat map.  Otherwise, this is still a game for people who manage to find motivation in it, as Canary mentioned a few posts back.

Nicely said.

Kesh i don't think you seem to realize that FCC is just as many clans as the ones you listed. I don't see how you are the underdog here. And the reason why alot of people sign up against you is actually because of you. We don't have merc agreements with occitan for example(and i doubt any of the other clans have), we just don't like you so we sign up against you.
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Post by: Kaelaen on August 28, 2013, 06:36:42 pm
Keep in mind I'm not necessarily saying Kesh doesn't have a point.  We can put together a competitive roster because of him, because of the aforementioned hard work he puts in to do so.  Our enemies may also struggle in putting together a roster, but from what I've seen they don't really ever fail to put together enough men to make the fight a fight.  With less effort than Kesh has to go through at least, from a casual viewpoint just chilling in the strat channel in stranger's teamspeaks.

And that is my quota of pro-FCC propaganda for one month, as per my contract regulations for being a Kesh alt account.
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Post by: Krosis on August 28, 2013, 08:06:38 pm
we just don't like you so we sign up against you.


This is pretty much why just about everyone on that "massive alliance" signs up against FCC.. it's Kesh. Personally, I don't have a problem with any FCC ( I don't think) but the Kesh factor makes me want to sign up against them every time. Arowaine doesn't need to pay for that.
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Post by: MURDERTRON on August 28, 2013, 08:14:08 pm
Nicely said.

Kesh i don't think you seem to realize that FCC is just as many clans as the ones you listed. I don't see how you are the underdog here. And the reason why alot of people sign up against you is actually because of you. We don't have merc agreements with occitan for example(and i doubt any of the other clans have), we just don't like you so we sign up against you.

Honestly, without Kesh being such a good strategist, yet such a shitty poster and occasional rager, there wouldn't be a lot of stuff happening in strat.  Kesh does an awesome job of making enemies for us to fight, but it does suck to fight my friends so often, though.  I've always considered what Kesh does for Strategus as a whole, a service.  I've done my share of staring at the map and doing my clicks, but most people don't find it fun, so I'll always let him do it if that's what he likes to do.  And who knows, maybe he isn't such a bad guy after all, maybe he is just that committed to the role play.  My guess is that some people need to hate someone enough to get motivated to do anything in Strat, so it seems to be working.
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Post by: Aderyn on August 28, 2013, 10:28:52 pm
Honestly, without Kesh being such a good strategist, yet such a shitty poster and occasional rager, there wouldn't be a lot of stuff happening in strat.  Kesh does an awesome job of making enemies for us to fight, but it does suck to fight my friends so often, though.  I've always considered what Kesh does for Strategus as a whole, a service.  I've done my share of staring at the map and doing my clicks, but most people don't find it fun, so I'll always let him do it if that's what he likes to do.  And who knows, maybe he isn't such a bad guy after all, maybe he is just that committed to the role play.  My guess is that some people need to hate someone enough to get motivated to do anything in Strat, so it seems to be working.

Don't be silly. He is forcing hate towards him which forces it into a 2 side war in the end. I'm fairly sure there would be more interesting conflicts if he didn't act like he did or if FCC would split up and do their own thing instead of circlejerking in a massive super-alliance. Making a superalliance forces everyone to attack it or it will be as big as the drz/grey/union alliance last strat wich was pretty much unstoppable. Sheer number of accounts recruiting for you is key to being big.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on August 28, 2013, 10:32:56 pm
Don't be silly. He is forcing hate towards him which forces it into a 2 side war in the end. I'm fairly sure there would be more interesting conflicts if he didn't act like he did or if FCC would split up and do their own thing instead of circlejerking in a massive super-alliance. Making a superalliance forces everyone to attack it or it will be as big as the drz/grey/union alliance last strat wich was pretty much unstoppable. Sheer number of accounts recruiting for you is key to being big.

the only super alliance for a good portion of the game was VE. Once they broke up, LCO was the much bigger super alliance left, and FCC had to compete against that.

Fairs fair, where the meter goes. Unless you trying to say LCO was a weakling hobbit and not a big alliance when fighting the VE, I might have to put you in your place.
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Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on August 28, 2013, 10:38:35 pm
Are your armies coming as invited to be attacked, FCC? It's 5:00 PM nearly and I don't see them in the field. We offered free, organized battles with us willingly giving you the defensive advantage. Or was I wrong to assume that maybe you actually wanted to fight in the field? Silly me! I should have understood that Kesh's bombastic harangue brimming with his characteristic passive aggression wasn't actually an invitation to combat, but a way of trying to convince his enemies that the only way to be a brave internet nerd is to give your enemies every advantage while they camp their castles and cities with tens of thousands of troops.

Bring the armies or own up to the alternative that you don't actually want to fight semi-fair, fun field battles.
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Post by: dynamike on August 28, 2013, 11:25:56 pm
Are your armies coming as invited to be attacked, FCC? It's 5:00 PM nearly and I don't see them in the field. We offered free, organized battles with us willingly giving you the defensive advantage. Or was I wrong to assume that maybe you actually wanted to fight in the field? Silly me! I should have understood that Kesh's bombastic harangue brimming with his characteristic passive aggression wasn't actually an invitation to combat, but a way of trying to convince his enemies that the only way to be a brave internet nerd is to give your enemies every advantage while they camp their castles and cities with tens of thousands of troops.

Bring the armies or own up to the alternative that you don't actually want to fight semi-fair, fun field battles.

I've offered it before to Chopas, nobody took me up on it - will offer it again:

We have a shit ton of troops sitting on their asses and getting fat and lazy in Derpcheetos Castle. I understand nobody has the balls to attack it, since it's actually a decent defence castle.

So my offer: meet us for a field battle in front of the castle and we'll be there for monitor tan, XP and glory!

What language am I writing in? Dumbnese?

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Post by: Kalam on August 28, 2013, 11:27:44 pm
Are your armies coming as invited to be attacked, FCC? It's 5:00 PM nearly and I don't see them in the field. We offered free, organized battles with us willingly giving you the defensive advantage. Or was I wrong to assume that maybe you actually wanted to fight in the field? Silly me! I should have understood that Kesh's bombastic harangue brimming with his characteristic passive aggression wasn't actually an invitation to combat, but a way of trying to convince his enemies that the only way to be a brave internet nerd is to give your enemies every advantage while they camp their castles and cities with tens of thousands of troops.

Bring the armies or own up to the alternative that you don't actually want to fight semi-fair, fun field battles.

Welcome back.
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Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on August 28, 2013, 11:28:52 pm
Dude I don't want to have to walk over to your castle. You walk over to mine. I'm an Amerifat gotdamit and I ain't taking no walk to your shitcastle.
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Post by: Matey on August 28, 2013, 11:38:16 pm
Don't be silly. He is forcing hate towards him which forces it into a 2 side war in the end. I'm fairly sure there would be more interesting conflicts if he didn't act like he did or if FCC would split up and do their own thing instead of circlejerking in a massive super-alliance. Making a superalliance forces everyone to attack it or it will be as big as the drz/grey/union alliance last strat wich was pretty much unstoppable. Sheer number of accounts recruiting for you is key to being big.

Anders explained things pretty well. But just to humour you I shall explain a bit more! If all the clans in FCC went off on their own then they would get crushed by all our enemies who have banded together and never fight each other (whether allied or not). FCC is the size it is out of necessity.
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Post by: Aderyn on August 28, 2013, 11:46:22 pm
Anders explained things pretty well. But just to humour you I shall explain a bit more! If all the clans in FCC went off on their own then they would get crushed by all our enemies who have banded together and never fight each other (whether allied or not). FCC is the size it is out of necessity.

Well it might be a shitrollercoaster right now that can't be stopped and people being afraid of being on their own because of fear of what might happen to them and past events, but it wouldn't of had to be this way if it wouldn't of been for the politics FCC/kesh has been running the last months/year.

I mean, if you guys kicked out kesh and severed ties to him and split up, i'm pretty sure 80% of the people going after you would lose interest and let you split up and do your own things. Question is are you willing to take that risk, and is it worth it over a vidjagaym?
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Post by: Kaelaen on August 28, 2013, 11:50:44 pm
Well it might be a shitrollercoaster right now that can't be stopped and people being afraid of being on their own because of fear of what might happen to them and past events, but it wouldn't of had to be this way if it wouldn't of been for the politics FCC/kesh has been running the last months/year.

I mean, if you guys kicked out kesh and severed ties to him and split up, i'm pretty sure 80% of the people going after you would lose interest and let you split up and do your own things. Question is are you willing to take that risk, and is it worth it over a vidjagaym?

It's not a question of whether or not we're willing to take the risk, it's just something that doesn't make sense.  Kesh is our friend, we like having him about.  Yes he sometimes makes stupid posts on the forums and we make fun of him sometimes for it, usually in teamspeak, sometimes we call him out here on the forums as well.  But that doesn't change our relationship.  No video game is worth losing a friend over.
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Post by: Aderyn on August 28, 2013, 11:58:55 pm
It's not a question of whether or not we're willing to take the risk, it's just something that doesn't make sense.  Kesh is our friend, we like having him about.  Yes he sometimes makes stupid posts on the forums and we make fun of him sometimes for it, usually in teamspeak, sometimes we call him out here on the forums as well.  But that doesn't change our relationship.  No video game is worth losing a friend over.

Yeah that's what i meant with not worth losing someone over a vidjagaym.

Well, if you guys can't put a strap on him you might aswell buckle up :/
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Post by: dynamike on August 28, 2013, 11:59:57 pm
Dude I don't want to have to walk over to your castle. You walk over to mine. I'm an Amerifat gotdamit and I ain't taking no walk to your shitcastle.

Ameriwhat? This ain't the land of the free calories and the home of the brave competitive eaters. Where do you think you are?

THIS. IS. CALRADIAAAAAAAAA.

*kicks Daruvian into a bottomless pit*  :)
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Post by: BaleOhay on August 29, 2013, 12:21:59 am
Yeah that's what i meant with not worth losing someone over a vidjagaym.

Well, if you guys can't put a strap on him you might aswell buckle up :/

buckle-up for what exactly? this war is limp.... With your alliances and resources available we would have turned most of the map orange by now.

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Post by: Krosis on August 29, 2013, 12:54:29 am
buckle-up for what exactly? this war is limp.... With your alliances and resources available we would have turned most of the map orange by now.

Please do that.. oh I'd love to see you guys attack right now, besides strategus is getting boring.. where the hell are the battles?
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Post by: MURDERTRON on August 29, 2013, 01:00:11 am
We took our turn attacking and turning most of the larger factions against us.  All we got for it was an illegal fief transfer and a bunch of enemies.  It's your turn now.
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Post by: Canary on August 29, 2013, 01:27:02 am
Anders explained things pretty well. But just to humour you I shall explain a bit more! If all the clans in FCC went off on their own then they would get crushed by all our enemies who have banded together and never fight each other (whether allied or not). FCC is the size it is out of necessity.

I can personally guarantee you that this wouldn't be the case overall. Assumptions in this case intending to prevent wide-scale wipeouts are understandable, though.

It would not be the case, and I'll even use an example supporting that theory that actually happened: Chaos and FIDLGB were fighting the Aggregate Alliance in an ill-publicized war (sorry about not having given a declaration). Our target of choice was New Senuzgda Castle, and we intended to continue fighting it until we took it over again. Lo and behold, its owners, Riders of Rohan, split off from the Aggregates and announced their desire to become a separate entity. Instead of mindlessly continuing with our plan and attacking them under their new colors, we played into the game's diplomacy and sent them a message and ended up going another route.

If anything, the only people with something to fear from the constituent clans splitting off from the FCC are the core members, the original FCC/BRD people. I can't speak for everyone, of course, but I'm willing to bet the majority of people fighting the FCC wouldn't continue to press against HG, Remnant, et al, unless Kesh, or maybe some others, were still actively involved in their strategus doings.

It's not a question of whether or not we're willing to take the risk, it's just something that doesn't make sense.  Kesh is our friend, we like having him about.  Yes he sometimes makes stupid posts on the forums and we make fun of him sometimes for it, usually in teamspeak, sometimes we call him out here on the forums as well.  But that doesn't change our relationship.  No video game is worth losing a friend over.

That's fair enough, but people are giving more excuses than are needed to try and justify something that's fine as it stands. Fine, that is, unless you want to account for the fact that both sides are contributing to a looming stagnation on NA strategus. Friendships unfortunately don't serve the game itself. If you're truly friends, you can withstand competing with one another. That's not the only thing that will fix it, of course, and it's a lot to ask to play separately from someone you want to play with, but it's a direct action that several groups of people could undertake to instill more action into the game. The potential domino effect it might have on the other side, as well, would open up many possibilities.

We took our turn attacking and turning most of the larger factions against us.  All we got for it was an illegal fief transfer and a bunch of enemies.  It's your turn now.

The FCC has played the "brag about attacking the most" card. If it hasn't worked already, you're not going to make it happen by using the same approach of trying to goad people into attacking you.

The tit for tat mentality is also misplaced. No one's taking turns, you attack for the sake of it (the holdings won, glory reaped; the battles fought, fun enjoyed). You guys keep giving shit for the way other factions try to play and brag about how yours is a better one, now you're trying to put the shoe on the other foot? I think not. I'm taking your cake, you can't eat it, too.

Let me mix some more metaphors real quick here and I'll find a better way to say this... you guys (FCC) are doing the exact same thing you're criticizing your enemies for right now. What you've accomplished in the past isn't going to change what's (not) happening now - you've attacked more than any other faction? That's great. Why would you stop now, to keep from being hammerpounded by the odds being stacked against you? That doesn't sound like the FCC to me. Worthless fair-weather attackers. Going gets rough, better start turtling. Oh, but it's okay because "they" already do it and it's their turn to take big losses. You're as bad as Kesh claims my faction is.



I am personally ready for something new this strat, but it's gonna take more than one to tango. I've also had the majority of my resources wiped out in war, so I may be a bit biased in this regard. However, I'm not gonna jump off any bridges just because someone mentioned they might drop a hat.

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Post by: MURDERTRON on August 29, 2013, 01:36:35 am
Economically, it would be better for you to attack now, as we will keep generating income based on our holdings.  We are going to have more money than everyone else, and at some point it will become impossible to hurt us.  Our lead will increase exponentially.  Attack us.  The time is now.
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Post by: Canary on August 29, 2013, 01:48:39 am
All you're missing is "come at me bro". Unfortunately for you, you don't get to dictate what your enemies do or how they play.

You're admitting that now you want to play like the do-nothing mega-blocs on EU (or how you accused your enemies of playing on NA)? I'll reiterate: you can't just stop doing things and expect your enemy to do the rest of the work. What you've achieved before isn't going to inspire us to do what you want us to do. Threatening to turtle up even harder isn't going to make attacking a turtle faction more attractive.


We can all say the same thing over and over in a bunch of different ways, but these same conversations repeated aren't going to cause anything to happen.
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Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on August 29, 2013, 01:57:07 am
Hello everyone, welcome to "NO IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT AND NOTHING IS OUR FAULT!", the thread.
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Post by: BaleOhay on August 29, 2013, 02:12:54 am
I use use the chaos offensive as an example..


When we attack we do not shy away from the hard targets. We took out 3 well defensed castles all the fiefs but dhirum and that only because it is the single worst place to attack in game. We tried it several times regardless.. in what 2 weeks roughly?

This war in comparison is boring. Tactically it does not make sense for us to charge out at the moment. Believe me I have been preaching it anyway just to do something but it has not swayed the majority.

The big bloc alliance ideas of an offensive is just being offensive on the message board.
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Post by: Keshian on August 29, 2013, 02:45:00 am
I use use the chaos offensive as an example..


When we attack we do not shy away from the hard targets. We took out 3 well defensed castles all the fiefs but dhirum and that only because it is the single worst place to attack in game. We tried it several times regardless.. in what 2 weeks roughly?

This war in comparison is boring. Tactically it does not make sense for us to charge out at the moment. Believe me I have been preaching it anyway just to do something but it has not swayed the majority.

The big bloc alliance ideas of an offensive is just being offensive on the message board.

This ^  :rolleyes:

We bled 50K tickets taking out fidlgb and chaos fiefs - the time was perfectly ripe for occitan to attack us at the end of the peace agreement - their big offensive? Doing nothing for an entire month after that.  I'm sorry, but we don't recruit troops at the same rate you guys do and we don't have most of the map allied with us making trade runs easy.  We bled 30-35K in the hospitaller war shortly before chaos and fidlgb and 20K with NH and Frisians overlapping those two conflicts.  We have been burning constantly while all most of our enemies have been building up to attack us (hell occitan building for over 6 months).  They can easily do a 1 for 2 in every battle and still have tens of thousands of troops leftover, and yet still you guys are whining there are no new battles and you don't realize that almost half the large battles in the last 12 months were involving fcc, almost always on the offensive.  If you want battles use your overwhelming numbers and attack.  Hell we've taken plenty of castles and cities with the odds far less in our favor.
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Post by: Goretooth on August 29, 2013, 02:53:37 am
This ^  :rolleyes:

We bled 50K tickets taking out fidlgb and chaos fiefs - the time was perfectly ripe for occitan to attack us at the end of the peace agreement - their big offensive? Doing nothing for an entire month after that.  I'm sorry, but we don't recruit troops at the same rate you guys do and we don't have most of the map allied with us making trade runs easy.  We bled 30-35K in the hospitaller war shortly before chaos and fidlgb and 20K with NH and Frisians overlapping those two conflicts.  We have been burning constantly while all most of our enemies have been building up to attack us (hell occitan building for over 6 months).  They can easily do a 1 for 2 in every battle and still have tens of thousands of troops leftover, and yet still you guys are whining there are no new battles and you don't realize that almost half the large battles in the last 12 months were involving fcc, almost always on the offensive.  If you want battles use your overwhelming numbers and attack.  Hell we've taken plenty of castles and cities with the odds far less in our favor.
Like paying mercs to tk the other side for you? good job
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Post by: arowaine on August 29, 2013, 02:59:39 am
oui oui
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Post by: Lt_Anders on August 29, 2013, 03:14:47 am
Like paying mercs to tk the other side for you? good job

Oh come now, who hasn't had a smear on their record? I mean, you've got a pretty dirty record from the clans you've been in. Specially the betrayals against originally allies...

Strat isn't fun cause of people like you who bring up shit from super far in the past and use it over, and over and over and, horse is dead already btw, and over and over......
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Post by: Goretooth on August 29, 2013, 03:21:04 am
Oh come now, who hasn't had a smear on their record? I mean, you've got a pretty dirty record from the clans you've been in. Specially the betrayals against originally allies...

Strat isn't fun cause of people like you who bring up shit from super far in the past and use it over, and over and over and, horse is dead already btw, and over and over......
It works and is fun. It makes people mad and sperg out  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Rhalzo on August 29, 2013, 03:30:26 am
We bled 50K tickets taking out fidlgb and chaos fiefs - the time was perfectly ripe for occitan to attack us at the end of the peace agreement - their big offensive? Doing nothing for an entire month after that.

Edited because I didn't read my own quote of your post correctly:

Weren't they in on the HoC gang bang near the entrance to the desert?

Anyways, let's get more battles going folks! We were doing such a great job recently and now we're in a slump. Let's fix that.
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Post by: BaleOhay on August 29, 2013, 03:38:08 am
stoned rhalzo makes my posts hard to understand by ninja editing
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Post by: Canary on August 29, 2013, 03:42:04 am
Oh come now, who hasn't had a smear on their record? I mean, you've got a pretty dirty record from the clans you've been in. Specially the betrayals against originally allies...

Strat isn't fun cause of people like you who bring up shit from super far in the past and use it over, and over and over and, horse is dead already btw, and over and over......

Remember that time X [faction/person] did Y [deed]? Ahahaha what a horrible [faction/person], serves you right to get [deed] done to you.

This ^  :rolleyes:

We bled 50K tickets taking out fidlgb and chaos fiefs - the time was perfectly ripe for occitan to attack us at the end of the peace agreement - their big offensive? Doing nothing for an entire month after that.  I'm sorry, but we don't recruit troops at the same rate you guys do and we don't have most of the map allied with us making trade runs easy.  We bled 30-35K in the hospitaller war shortly before chaos and fidlgb and 20K with NH and Frisians overlapping those two conflicts.  We have been burning constantly while all most of our enemies have been building up to attack us (hell occitan building for over 6 months).  They can easily do a 1 for 2 in every battle and still have tens of thousands of troops leftover, and yet still you guys are whining there are no new battles and you don't realize that almost half the large battles in the last 12 months were involving fcc, almost always on the offensive.  If you want battles use your overwhelming numbers and attack.  Hell we've taken plenty of castles and cities with the odds far less in our favor.

I'm whining because there are no new battles and two of the largest factions on NA won't attack anyone, for whatever reason. It's not just one side's fault, is all I'm saying, even if another side has a good track record previously.

I don't think you guys would be screwing yourselves as much as you think if you instigated a few more battles; what happened to the whole "against all odds" attitude? But of course it's up to you. Whining about what other people do or don't do? Whining that they're whining about the same thing? Well, hello kettle.

I have my doubts that more battles would even make this war as a whole much more interesting. Better than nothing, though, I guess.
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Post by: BaleOhay on August 29, 2013, 03:49:02 am
I think our stance is this.. Even if we go 2-1 (which is not very likely) we would still run out of troops before we made a large enough dent in what is against us in terms of just numbers of troops on the map that we can see.

So we wait for an opportunity to arise that levels the playing field some.
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Post by: Canary on August 29, 2013, 03:59:04 am
Pfaugh, playing to win. What is this, strat 2?

Y'oughta live upta them nerves noives of wrought iron what made yew the faction what ye'are t'day. Hyuk.



I'll come up with something for us all to do myself; let those who speak of action yet take none be damned.
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Post by: BaleOhay on August 29, 2013, 04:03:34 am
If I had my way we would be attacking. Sitting around waiting is boring. Have not been able to convince enough people. Tho I do find it pretty crappy that we are not attacked more
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Post by: Dach on August 29, 2013, 06:52:56 am
I'll come up with something for us all to do myself; let those who speak of action yet take none be damned.

Say the leader of a faction that his sole offensive action this whole Strat was to attack the Fallen castle and give up...

Sorry had to say it!  :lol: :mrgreen:
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Post by: arowaine on August 29, 2013, 06:53:58 am
Say the leader of a faction that his sole offensive action this whole Strat was to attack the Fallen castle and give up...

Sorry had to say it!  :lol: :mrgreen:

correction fallen merge into fcc so chaos stop attacking sorry had to say it :P
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Post by: Dach on August 29, 2013, 06:58:20 am
no no, we gave the castle to FCC AFTER the attack stopped.
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Post by: Sandersson Jankins on August 29, 2013, 07:03:25 am
A late addition here; we'll be attacking as much as our activity will allow. The school semester has started and many of our members are busy with college as well as working. We're still nerds of course, so much of our free time will be dedicated to internet swords n' horses, but there is simply less free time to go around. If we ain't attacking during a given week it is because we have not had the time or willpower to organize it, or we do not have the resources. Lately, we have had an excess of tickets and a decent amount of silver so we've been refraining from attacking through a combination of deficits in the area of time, willpower, and nerd-enthusiasm. It's silly to say "YOU AREN'T ATTACKING BECAUSE YOU'RE SCARED ROFL"

Don't worry though, we got our shit together. You'll have attacks for a few days anyway.
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Post by: Lemon on August 29, 2013, 08:28:30 am
tl;dr
Don't worry though, we got our shit together. You'll have attacks for a few days anyway.


Great, looking forward to xp and fun battles!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: dynamike on August 29, 2013, 03:14:46 pm
Economically, it would be better for you to attack now, as we will keep generating income based on our holdings.  We are going to have more money than everyone else, and at some point it will become impossible to hurt us.  Our lead will increase exponentially.  Attack us.  The time is now.

All you're missing is "come at me bro". Unfortunately for you, you don't get to dictate what your enemies do or how they play.

Actually, "come at me bro" would fit quite nicely here: we poked all them ant hills with a stick. Not once, not twice, but all the damn time the last months. And we didn't just dip it in, oh no. We poked that shit so hard, queen ants were flying all over the place and you could make ant egg omelets the size of a football field. So hard even that some ant colonies went full survival mode and formed huge monster ant hills full of mutated, flesh eating killer ants.

Now we are back home and should be scared. Like real scared, because a gazillion of fucking antzillas have "kill the FCC" tattooed on the inside of their eye lids, if ants have eye lids.

Yet we are sitting there, sipping our hot chocolate in front of the TV, front door wide open and we take all the time we want to casually sharpen our sticks. Hell, we might even open a stick market soon to sell 'em lest the good wood start rotting from neglect.

We got wood, and nothing to stick it in. Are you an ant or a can't? It's a party at our house this time around.

Come at us, bros!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Jack1 on August 29, 2013, 03:16:57 pm
jack1's army had arrived at its destination. After months of masterbation there was only one thing that could get jack1's loads out now and that was bunga bunga.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on August 29, 2013, 06:19:23 pm
Actually, "come at me bro" would fit quite nicely here: we poked all them ant hills with a stick. Not once, not twice, but all the damn time the last months. And we didn't just dip it in, oh no. We poked that shit so hard, queen ants were flying all over the place and you could make ant egg omelets the size of a football field. So hard even that some ant colonies went full survival mode and formed huge monster ant hills full of mutated, flesh eating killer ants.

Now we are back home and should be scared. Like real scared, because a gazillion of fucking antzillas have "kill the FCC" tattooed on the inside of their eye lids, if ants have eye lids.

Yet we are sitting there, sipping our hot chocolate in front of the TV, front door wide open and we take all the time we want to casually sharpen our sticks. Hell, we might even open a stick market soon to sell 'em lest the good wood start rotting from neglect.

We got wood, and nothing to stick it in. Are you an ant or a can't? It's a party at our house this time around.

Come at us, bros!

Fucking beautiful!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Turboflex on August 29, 2013, 11:27:32 pm
If someone wants to do a theme field  battle vs. a viking army feel free to attack this guy. he is afk indefinitely but geared for 1500.

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Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Bronto on August 30, 2013, 02:54:44 am
Let's all unite and attack EU for the lulz! What else are we gonna do? FCC has a shitload of troops and is getting richer by the minute! The rest of us are bored. Let's do it!

Edit: Kesh, all your negative vote does is admit you're a pussy so scared of EU. GF.
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Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on August 30, 2013, 04:00:26 am
Let's all unite and attack EU for the lulz! What else are we gonna do? FCC has a shitload of troops and is getting richer by the minute! The rest of us are bored. Let's do it!

Edit: Kesh, all your negative vote does is admit you're a pussy so scared of EU. GF.
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lol, rage much.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 30, 2013, 04:18:45 am
Guys LETS INVADE EU. Not like EU has invaded us before :rolleyes:, so lets return the favor.

Might convice EU to fight each then too. Give us something to do, and puts life back into EU.
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Post by: Matey on August 30, 2013, 05:54:31 am
Guys LETS INVADE EU. Not like EU has invaded us before :rolleyes:, so lets return the favor.

Might convice EU to fight each then too. Give us something to do, and puts life back into EU.

Not like EU has 10x more troops than NA.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on August 30, 2013, 05:58:36 am
Not like EU has 10x more troops than NA.

Yea but if we attack one side, then the other gets empowered and then, game cwill get real, son.
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Post by: Jack1 on August 30, 2013, 06:05:54 am
bunga bunga was chanted though the night along with many screams, tears, and blood.
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Post by: MURDERTRON on August 30, 2013, 06:16:29 am


Man, you guys whooped us tonight.  Looks like you're ready to take a castle.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Malgalad on August 30, 2013, 08:11:14 am
 :shock: When I was Torchmonk:
Snoop vs Malgalad
- Battle time: 13.05., 06:33
- Battle duration: 22m01s
- Army size: 507 vs 571
- Battle result: -1 vs 313
- Winner: Defender
Blackzilla_FIDLGB vs Malgalad
- Battle time: 22.05., 02:47
- Battle duration: 30m53s
- Army size: 491 vs 342
- Battle result: 47 vs 0
- Winner: Attacker

 :mrgreen: So kill 951 loss 600

Torchmonk
Total Losses: 600
KDR: 1.585
Last Updated: 5/22/13

Although not the Major Faction.
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Post by: Bronto on August 30, 2013, 12:22:09 pm
lol, rage much.

If by rage you mean laughing maniacally while I was typing, then I was like so totally mad omg call the cops.

 
Not like EU has 10x more troops than NA.

Where is Bale? We need his response so we NA players can see of all yer bellies are yeller or just Matey and Kesh.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Haboe on August 30, 2013, 01:52:23 pm

Let's all unite and attack EU for the lulz! What else are we gonna do? FCC has a shitload of troops and is getting richer by the minute! The rest of us are bored. Let's do it!


Snowball over us!

Guys LETS INVADE EU. Not like EU has invaded us before :rolleyes:, so lets return the favor.

Might convice EU to fight each then too. Give us something to do, and puts life back into EU.

I'll be waiting ^^

Yea but if we attack one side, then the other gets empowered and then, game cwill get real, son.

Nah, there is the apostates, or whats left of it, the coalition which is inactive, crusader allience thats been sleeping for 4 months now vs  the rest of the map :P

If you join our side, we will still be outnumbered, if you join their side, we are outnumbered anyway so wouldn't cause more problems  :mrgreen:
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 30, 2013, 05:38:17 pm
I don't think NA should invade EU, we have some shit pings over there
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Matey on August 30, 2013, 08:50:34 pm
I don't think NA should invade EU, we have some shit pings over there

Yep. FCC spent plenty of time fighting Mercs and DRZ in strat 2 and you get either shit ping or shit time. lose-lose.
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Post by: Jack1 on August 31, 2013, 12:41:58 am
jack1 arrived on the hills past ayyike on the date of (who gives a shit), his army about a day behind. Jack1 decided That he would give the genitalman's honor to Tojo, The Lord of this village, that his men were about a day out and that they should prepare for a battle. When he spoke to Tojo he knew that Tojo and his men were the type that have loose anuses.

Later that night jack sent derp the derp on a secret mission. As derp entered the village disguised as a pilgrim he made his way twards their lubrication depot. After entering he spent the night there and got up quickly at 3AM to throw it all over the street and made his way back to the camp.

The coming morning Tojo and his men decided to start preperation for the conflict that was soon to come. They prepared the defences well. They used 5 foot poles instead of 4 foot poles for the stakes. They cut fresh tamerack trees for their ladders to make sure they would hold up like no other ladders ever seen. Soon jack and men were forming up and Tojo realized he didn't have much time. He quickly told the men "the time is now". All of his men were well disciplined and knew exactly what to do. They quickly ran over to the luberication storage, but they found out what happened. Devistated being that they have heard the rumors of what jack did to his last army and now finding out that they don't have any lubrication (in the case that they get captured so it does not go in dry) the whole village's moral dropped like the economy in the Great Depression.

Jack1 hearing the cries down below in the village knew it was time. He had his men chant "bunga bunga bunga" on their way. About ten minutes jack realized that foxy unicorns was not shooting him like a pin cushin and looked off to his right and notices him spectating from a hill and making noises, but jack couldn't tell what those noises were. About thirty minutes into the battle had began it was already over. There was a circle made around a small flag where the bunga bunga was being performed. The bunga bunga continued for another fifteen minutes or so untill Sanderson finally blew his load and called all of the other men to just put the flag down. Jack1 then heard the most gratifying thing he had ever heard: "don't stop the bunga bunga, I will give you all te troops you don't capture. I don't care, I just want to kill kill rape rape more FCC!"-arrowaine. Everybody knew that he was obviously a little more experienced than Sanderson and had a much larger cane that needed more polishing than Sanderson.

Jack1 and his men captured 50 mercenaries from the other team for later use.

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The next day jack1 and his men had their usual bunga bunga ceremonies. Everything was going normal with the whole rape them until they die yada yada yada..... Untill the last prisoner was brought before jack and co. And they asked "death or bunga bunga?"

the mercenary (who will not be named) said "neither."

 Shocked from his third response from the choice of two jack decided that this guy is pretty quick and wondered how quick. Jack responded with "say something funny".

The mercenary relied with "you should have heard kesh".

 Jack replied with "you may leave in peace"


Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Krosis on September 01, 2013, 06:07:24 am
So did TKOV and MB make peace? I must have missed it.
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Post by: Oreo on September 02, 2013, 08:55:43 pm
somethin' was said about 40k troops on your doorstep?

i dunno, was weird
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Post by: woody on September 03, 2013, 01:03:19 am
After in depth analysis of the threatened EU invasion I think the reply that would best express the opinions of those of my acquaintance in the European crpg community would be best expressed in a traditional English folk song with one line that is repeated to a metronomic backbeat:

COME AND AVE A GO IF YOU THINK UR ARD ENUFF
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Adoptagoat on September 03, 2013, 01:25:38 am
So did TKOV and MB make peace? I must have missed it.

negative. Calm before the storm, tkov propoganda, etc, etc
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Socks on September 03, 2013, 02:20:39 am
Well in short this is a lot of wars some i didnt even know happend.
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Post by: Jack1 on September 06, 2013, 01:52:45 am
the chants of "bunga bunga" roared on once more. Jack1 and his men felt fresh and ready to go untill they came upon the enemy. It was what jack1 least expected........ Females.

Only time will tell how this new gender will fight the bunga bunga horde.
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Post by: Carthan on September 06, 2013, 02:37:54 am
the chants of "bunga bunga" roared on once more. Jack1 and his men felt fresh and ready to go untill they came upon the enemy. It was what jack1 least expected........ Females.

Only time will tell how this new gender will fight the bunga bunga horde.

We thought they were mere legends... stories to frighten young boys and warriors alike.
Never have we been so wrong
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Jack1 on September 06, 2013, 05:13:20 am
jack1's army of hardened bunga bunga troops pulled off a close victory, but at a grave price. Surely these 1500 brave souls would go down in the frisian scrolls as the bravest men known by Frisia. They had been silenced, all but 67... If only two more could have survived....

On the way back home many of the mercs said "more flamberges" but all of the frisians just mumbled "kesh is gay" and "I am homosexual".
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 10, 2013, 04:03:05 am
UPDATE!
SO it's official. LL is the worst strat performance faction. Less than .5 even with 30k losses. Congrats!

Also, FCC v Frisia is  barely over 1:1 in favor of Frisia(IE FCC has a slightly WORSE performance against Frisia. But this includes 3 essentially no show, 2k ticket battles. In terms of Kills, it's 1:1 or favoring FCC atm).

Aggregate Alliance Removed Permanently.

Also: Battles are still on the side of SUCK right now. Put up more battles.( FCC's losses have gone up by 12k in only 2 weeks! REALLY?)Put out more battles!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Kelugarn on September 10, 2013, 05:22:08 am
You really need to add a column for the Righteous Crusade to Purge the Holy Land of EU Filth. You do support the Good Thing, don't you?
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Post by: Lt_Anders on September 10, 2013, 05:54:54 am
You really need to add a column for the Righteous Crusade to Purge the Holy Land of EU Filth. You do support the Good Thing, don't you?

Not until you attack with my army...cause I wanted to see glorius DL troops killing shit!

If you want I can. But, I only record Fratricidal Conflicts, or in other words NA pouts.
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Post by: Kelugarn on September 10, 2013, 08:39:52 am
We used the troops, does that count?  :oops:
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 10, 2013, 04:10:04 pm
need moar battles (during prime time)...3am Rhalzo, really!?  :evil:
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Post by: Lt_Anders on September 10, 2013, 04:10:17 pm
We used the troops, does that count?  :oops:

But, but! I didn't see it :(
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Post by: Malaclypse on September 10, 2013, 07:50:29 pm
But, but! I didn't see it :(

I think I also had some stuff to add since the last update for Golden Apple Corps:

Attack (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=5021)
Defense (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=5036)

Plus one upcoming battle, tomorrow early morning: Attack (http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=5095)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Rhalzo on September 11, 2013, 01:39:38 am
need moar battles (during prime time)...3am Rhalzo, really!?  :evil:

My slow ass quick marched down to Yalibe and attacked it at 1:31am CST. Then the battle was at 3am when I woke up this morning. Shit happens and I'm not really looking forward to staying up until the battle but I will. See ya all there.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: ArysOakheart on September 26, 2013, 06:29:24 am
Yea sorry Anders, i'm not sure which battle they were used in, as I've missed about half of them. I tallied some of our numbers, though I should probably redo it after this weekend (last two Fisdnar battles)

So far we've lost 10529, killed 8544, with a KD of .811.

In our war on Fisdnar we've lost 8538, killed 6691, with a Fisdnar KD of .78. I'll probably update this after the battles this weekend.

Maybe I should go through and only average the NA battles, oh well.


I think we sold your army to the chinese to release Kirbies from bondage
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Knute on September 26, 2013, 10:56:36 pm

I think we sold your army to the chinese to release Kirbies from bondage

I can only confirm:

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Anders, we used your army in the last battle and got a positive KD with them.  Also there was a thanks for the troops Anders message in the recruitment thing and you'll be included in the history of the free peasants tapestry that'll be released at a later date. 

Here's all our battles so far in the casual campaign to free Fisdnar.  In the words of Jessica Alba, "We didn't cross the border, the border crossed us."

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Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 26, 2013, 11:30:56 pm
Damn it! How'd I miss that battle. I wanted to show up for it :mad:
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Post by: Jack1 on September 27, 2013, 02:46:18 am
bunga bunga bunga
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 27, 2013, 03:34:29 am
Well, looky there, actual updates can be done now that theres some REAL battles! 1.5 weeks without any real battles and there we go, lots of XP.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: ArysOakheart on September 27, 2013, 09:14:46 pm
Well, looky there, actual updates can be done now that theres some REAL battles! 1.5 weeks without any real battles and there we go, lots of XP.

Our last two battles will be this weekend, Froyo should be initiating the first battle any moment now....
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Post by: Lt_Anders on October 03, 2013, 05:37:10 am
I get to start updating again!
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Post by: Lt_Anders on October 16, 2013, 03:48:51 pm
Woot. 1 and a half months later...UPDATED!

Gobblin king has a pretty good start. 20k lost, and a 1.23 KDR. Seems plate crutching is the new fad....

Since February, NA has lost close to 1 million tickets, and killed some 600,000 of those.
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Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on October 16, 2013, 04:35:14 pm
That's alota death, but I think we can do better. The inevitable NA-EU War, to be initiated by the uncontrollable internet aggression of the Gobblin King, will see greater bloodshed than has yet been experienced in Strategus.
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Post by: Malaclypse on October 16, 2013, 09:29:47 pm
You can move the Golden Apple Corps to the list of defunct factions. Not sure, but you may have missed a battle or two in our KDR. The only guy left in the faction last I knew was Rainbow Sheep, most of the rest of us went Gobblin.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on October 16, 2013, 10:20:17 pm
You can move the Golden Apple Corps to the list of defunct factions. Not sure, but you may have missed a battle or two in our KDR. The only guy left in the faction last I knew was Rainbow Sheep, most of the rest of us went Gobblin.

I ignored your 1 last battle and didn't bother putting it in for a defunct faction.
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Post by: sJimmy on October 17, 2013, 04:19:04 am
any side win yet?
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on October 17, 2013, 04:47:23 am
any side win yet?

The GOBBLIN side has already won.

Also why the fuck hasn't Joe joined THE REALM OF THE GOBBLIN KING already? I need a GOBBLIN COMMISSIONER OF BESTIALITY.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 27, 2013, 10:58:34 pm
Updated!

Added in a new feature: Net KDR Change between updates!

So, best change: Gobblin king -0.08 and LL +0.07

Also: FCC has so much kills/losses they now have a KDR of FOUR places...cause they suck. :lol:

Also, Central Confederacy had a horrible Opening. 1 battle in which they went better than 1:1 otherwise they went less.(1 battle that was ALMOST exactly 1:1 and one battle better).
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Post by: BaleOhay on November 05, 2013, 01:24:29 pm
need an update.. I think out KD may actually change this time
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Keshian on November 05, 2013, 04:24:08 pm
need an update.. I think out KD may actually change this time

Yeah and I think Saxony faction may be champions for having the newest low ever.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 06, 2013, 12:13:43 am
need an update.. I think out KD may actually change this time

Maybe if I got paid for my strat battles, geez.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: MURDERTRON on November 06, 2013, 01:45:24 am
Anders... I need pie graphs.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 07, 2013, 04:01:06 am
Holy fuk. I actually ran out of room in my battle slots recorder and had to do a double record for all the FCC v CC battles.

Updated.
FCC +0.016
CC -0.13
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on November 07, 2013, 05:24:55 am
likely give that away on a few castle fights :)
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 17, 2013, 10:28:15 pm
No update(yet?) but with Gobblins moving into the true proving ground... I'll have to properly chronicle the great hordes adventures into distant lands.
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Post by: Nightmare798 on November 17, 2013, 10:29:38 pm
OMG THAT GUY IN FRONT I WANT TO SEE HIS GEAR IN CRPG NAO!!!
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Post by: Lt_Anders on November 21, 2013, 12:10:42 am
Um isn't it just a normal plate type armor? It's a pretty popular armor, so I'm sure we actually already do have it.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 27, 2013, 12:41:48 am
Hey I cleared out a lot of the Backlog.

The final Stats from the CC/FCC war are done. LL's various attacks on FCC finished. Gobblins vs everyone also updated.

Overall, CC and HoC went up, FCC remained equal(i guess? my records differed on the kdr change), and Gobblins went down.

Once TKoV and MB put up more battles, I'll record that war. HoC v Chaos isn't been done, and that's old battles, but I'm lazy.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Krosis on November 27, 2013, 02:34:04 am
Overall, CC and HoC went up, FCC remained equal(i guess? my records differed on the kdr change), and Gobblins went down.

Damn leftover troops.. we did so good with KD in 2 of those castle attacks that we literally threw away 1k and about 800 troops IIRC.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 27, 2013, 02:49:16 am
Damn leftover troops.. we did so good with KD in 2 of those castle attacks that we literally threw away 1k and about 800 troops IIRC.

yup that's actually why you guys got hurt. Wasted troops :D

But that's why my Ratio counts. How efficient you are at both KILLING and Using up your tickets.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 06, 2013, 01:19:05 am
Do people still like this? Cause if not I'll cease to update it.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: ArysOakheart on December 06, 2013, 01:21:12 am
Do people still like this? Cause if not I'll cease to update it.

I dislike it until I see something about the free peasants!
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 06, 2013, 01:57:34 am
I dislike it until I see something about the free peasants!

attack something in NA! Cause I don't record those dirty europoors.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 06, 2013, 04:25:47 pm
Do people still like this? Cause if not I'll cease to update it.

I look at it whenever there's an update.  I like seeing the numbers and appreciate the neckbeardery involved in compiling them. 
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: MURDERTRON on December 06, 2013, 05:37:41 pm
How is the glorious Team 2 fairing?
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Post by: arowaine on December 06, 2013, 07:20:23 pm
ander we do like it but you havent update anything still :(
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 06, 2013, 11:37:32 pm
ander we do like it but you havent update anything still :(

I do it once a certain amount of battles are reached(about 14 or so) in what ever war it is. So, when there's only 1 attack every other day, that'll be 2 weeks till  updates.

I also cleared out Gobblin king, HoC, FCC v CC lists last update. Also, you haven't attacked shit in forever, so you're still at whatever you were 3 months ago or whenever you lost those 3 fiefs up north next to FCC.

@murder:
Won't record it, due to the fact that it's NOT an actual battle for realz. Just a fun battle. Now, if you were fighting for your life or something...

@CC:
I also keep a running battles list and a "Current" wars list. So you could always check that for some interesting stuff.(and the occasional small faction battles too, under the OTHER tab).
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Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 07, 2013, 12:31:36 am
Andy add the nation-state of Werfriedia otherwise known as Werfrieds Peasant Battalion or we'll destroy you or something.
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Post by: Artyem on December 07, 2013, 12:39:03 am
Don't you worry Anders, there will be blood for the XP god soon.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: BaleOhay on December 07, 2013, 02:12:24 am
Don't you worry Anders, there will be blood for the XP god soon.

Arty has come to see the glory of the Exp god Terrortops! Sounds like he wants to be a BS warrior
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Jack1 on December 07, 2013, 02:42:58 am
Arty has come to see the glory of the Exp god Terrortops! Sounds like he wants to be a BS warrior

No, bunga bunga warriors.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: arowaine on December 09, 2013, 04:15:22 pm
I do it once a certain amount of battles are reached(about 14 or so) in what ever war it is. So, when there's only 1 attack every other day, that'll be 2 weeks till  updates.

I also cleared out Gobblin king, HoC, FCC v CC lists last update. Also, you haven't attacked shit in forever, so you're still at whatever you were 3 months ago or whenever you lost those 3 fiefs up north next to FCC.

@murder:
Won't record it, due to the fact that it's NOT an actual battle for realz. Just a fun battle. Now, if you were fighting for your life or something...

@CC:
I also keep a running battles list and a "Current" wars list. So you could always check that for some interesting stuff.(and the occasional small faction battles too, under the OTHER tab).

ha sorry we dont live in the same community/ play the same game folk get your shit strait at least !
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but you are rigth i havent attack anything the past 2 week you fucking moron fucking puties! you gay as shit i hope you burn in hell! gayder that will be your new name...


ps: thanks for updating the list apreciate the time you put on that and its really worth it! thanks again
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Jack1 on December 09, 2013, 04:20:14 pm
ha sorry we dont live in the same community/ play the same game folk get your shit strait at least !
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but you are rigth i havent attack anything the past 2 week you fucking moron fucking puties! you gay as shit i hope you burn in hell! gayder that will be your new name...


ps: thanks for updating the list apreciate the time you put on that and its really worth it! thanks again

I swear your the putie in the closet.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 09, 2013, 11:51:02 pm
ha sorry we dont live in the same community/ play the same game folk get your shit strait at least !
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but you are rigth i havent attack anything the past 2 week you fucking moron fucking puties! you gay as shit i hope you burn in hell! gayder that will be your new name...


ps: thanks for updating the list apreciate the time you put on that and its really worth it! thanks again

I wasn't being insulting in that post. I assume you were being funny(?) and didn't take it as an insult and it got translated out wrong when you went to type it out.

So, otherwise, Thank you for the compliment.

Also CC should go look how I updated the battle listing with them  :twisted:
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on June 17, 2014, 06:06:06 pm
Let this thread forever stand as a reminder of the 420elite abilities of THE GOBBLIN REALM, and Frisia.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 17, 2014, 07:22:37 pm
Or better yet: http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive&view=chart
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168K tickets lost since the start of this strat versus about  925k lost in over 8 months. Simple Math: there were 5.5 times MORE battles, lost troops and gold, in those 8 months than in nearly 6 months of this iteration.

Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: HardRice on June 18, 2014, 01:43:08 am
Or better yet: http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive&view=chart
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168K tickets lost since the start of this strat versus about  925k lost in over 8 months. Simple Math: there were 5.5 times MORE battles, lost troops and gold, in those 8 months than in nearly 6 months of this iteration.

Blame it on the ridiculous gear price, Plate battles are better than no battles.
Title: Re: The Great NA War -Losses To date-
Post by: MURDERTRON on June 18, 2014, 03:12:20 am
Anders stop hiding in your castle and go attack something.  Oh wait, that's all you did last strat.