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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => The Chamber of Tears => Topic started by: Gravoth_iii on April 27, 2015, 09:31:37 pm

Title: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 27, 2015, 09:31:37 pm
How do i become admin? Fin only bans people outside Krems so EU1 needs some adminning. Theres been teamkilling, delaying & brocoding going on this dark night with no one getting banned but poor Oberyn.

Admin me today and banning all hobos will come free of charge.

edit: On a serious note, im very actively playing the game unlike the current admins. I would warn before kick then ban etc, fair admin duties. Im just sick of delayers & brocoders which are pretty common these days. Teamkilling doesnt happen often outside of this kremsinvasion, but when they do I WILL BE THERE.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on April 27, 2015, 09:43:18 pm
I wish Thomek was here, he wouldn't put up with this bullshit. You all whined about him for so long and now this is the shit we have day by day.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: F i n on April 27, 2015, 09:50:57 pm
Add poll pls.


Also - Oberyn teamkilled me and 2 other ppl.

D-Served.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: //saxon on April 27, 2015, 09:52:18 pm
What i'm most concerned about is the age of these players, i know they're 20+ years old some older than 30 maybe, and the brain of a fucking 5 year old is what they carry in their fucking cranium's.

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Just think boy's your in your mid life and you spend it with teenagers wanking each other off laughing about trolling on a near dead mod of a game made back in 2010. you sad sad men, you think you make people mad because you're trying to ruin a mod for people but i would love to see how many people laugh "at" you instead of laughing with you, i bet not a single one of you would be willing to tell anyone irl what you do on a daily basis. you fucking reptiles.

You will probably see this as an achievement by "making me rage" nah i'm fair from raging i'm pissing myself, but by all means.. if it makes you lot sleep at night. U bunch of fucking goats.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 27, 2015, 09:52:23 pm
Add poll pls.


Also - Oberyn teamkilled me and 2 other ppl.

D-Served.

And cuntlips teamkilling 3 people didnt deserve a ban?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 27, 2015, 09:55:21 pm
Ah finally some potential drama, what would you guys do without us huh???  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Falka on April 27, 2015, 09:56:21 pm
Also - Oberyn teamkilled me and 2 other ppl.

I need to find screens which I've made when you teamkilled me and 2 other guys (kremsies) at the end of the round. I know I have them somewhere...
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: pogosan on April 27, 2015, 09:57:54 pm
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: WarLord on April 27, 2015, 09:58:27 pm
Add poll pls.


Also - Oberyn teamkilled me and 2 other ppl.

D-Served.

In one round this evening I saw at least 5 teamkills from krems on krems, resulting in krems team (my team) losing, although we were like 5+ players more.
I really don't care anymore, as I rarely play anyway, but it's just .... I don't even have words.
It seems that most krems players really are mentally retarded or younger than like 14 years old and find things like that funny.
And that's not meant as an insult out of rage or anything. It's a simple observation.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: DKNhz on April 27, 2015, 10:04:20 pm
It was Krems reunion after 6 months or so, we had fun, ppl had fun, ppl applied Krems to join the fun. haters gonna hate ofc, we don't care, we never did.
Your hate makes us growth in numbers so QGT.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on April 27, 2015, 10:05:23 pm
KREMS CLAN BEST CLAN
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 27, 2015, 10:06:08 pm
It seems that most krems players really are mentally retarded or younger than like 14 years old and find things like that funny.
And that's not meant as an insult out of rage or anything. It's a simple observation.

You are completely correct, we are all 14 years old and retarted.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 27, 2015, 10:07:51 pm
You are completely correct, we are all 14 years old and retarted.

also
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Oberyn on April 27, 2015, 10:09:21 pm
Add poll pls.


Also - Oberyn teamkilled me and 2 other ppl.

D-Served.

I'm just sad I didn't manage to get more. Also "people"? That's stretching the definition a bit, they were krems.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: WarLord on April 27, 2015, 10:09:50 pm
I even had to laugh over some things, and seeing Risen and Krems having alot of people online with a filled server was good too ... but that teamkilling sprees and losing rounds for your own team is just retarded, that's a fact, not an opinion.  :wink:

Seriously, no offense meant, I really have gotten over my tryhard times in this game, only playing a few hours per week  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 27, 2015, 10:11:21 pm
I'm just sad I didn't manage to get more.

Me too, we laughed so hard at your silly tryhard teamkill of me when I was sitting on that horsie.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Oberyn on April 27, 2015, 10:13:58 pm
Bunch of haters, lololol I was just having fun. The way I have fun is by teamkilling dead weight on my team. Why should I get banned for enjoying myself? Oh, I'm sorry, is it against the rules? The rules that are selectively applied according to how drunk Fin and his coterie of moronic trolls are?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 27, 2015, 10:14:34 pm
Bunch of haters, lololol I was just having fun. The way I have fun is by teamkilling dead weight on my team. Why should I get banned for enjoying myself? Oh, I'm sorry, is it against the rules? The rules that are selectively applied according to how drunk Fin and his coterie of moronic trolls are?

Yea
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Fungus on April 27, 2015, 10:18:35 pm
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Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 27, 2015, 10:23:26 pm
I need to find screens which I've made when you teamkilled me and 2 other guys (kremsies) at the end of the round. I know I have them somewhere...

End of round as in after your team as won? Because thats actually not against the rules. Well kind of, I guess it depends on if you like them or not.

Exact rule: No intentional teamwounding/teamkilling during a round (teamkilling friends after a round ends is allowed, teamkilling random people is not)
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on April 27, 2015, 10:30:16 pm
Has anyone else noticed that the only people who stick up for Krems are also Krems?

In regards to you banning Oberyn for teamkilling people Fin, does this not apply to yourself when you decide to teamkill me at the end of the round? Or when you're jumping into bugged areas of a map? Or when you and your entire team is hiding in a small alleyway with no way out until your team die and then you run out and get killed yourselves? Not all of these are strictly against the rules but in reality theres nothing anyone could do if they were since you're the only active admin. Are you going to tempban whoever votekicked and teamwounded Saxon for for killing an enemy? Fuck no he was a Krems. It's one rule for everyone and another for Krems because the only admin is a Krems.

This is all done in the name of "fun". As Oberyn says what if him going around teamkilling everyone else is fun to him? Does that mean it's allowed? Of course not because it's fun at the expense of other people's just like what your clan was doing today. In small groups it's not a big problem, it can be annoying for players on the same team but that happens in every game. Now the population is down and 25%+ of the server can be made up of you guys it ruins the fun for everyone else and nor does it give a good representation of what M:BG will be. All you're doing is abusing your position as an admin and developer to allow you and your friends free reign over everyone else.

As I said in my previous post. Thomek was hated on for years for not putting up with this and now look at the situation. You can't dismiss this either, there have been far too many threads about this already.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Falka on April 27, 2015, 10:33:22 pm
End of round as in after your team as won? Because thats actually not against the rules. Well kind of, I guess it depends on if you like them or not.

Exact rule: No intentional teamwounding/teamkilling during a round (teamkilling friends after a round ends is allowed, teamkilling random people is not)

I'm not his friend. So it was against the rules.

Fin used to be cool guy, but the one who appointed him an admin has to be braindead.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 27, 2015, 10:35:35 pm
I dreamt i ate shit this night, and it was actually worse than i couldve imagined. Probably worse than it actually is. I didnt eat it voluntarily it just ended up in there somehow, dreams are weird. Had to tell people this somewhere since kenda didnt pay attention to me and it made me sad. This is probably relateable to this thread somehow, my dreams work like that.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on April 27, 2015, 10:53:13 pm
You guys got it all wrong. First of, cRPG is hell. We're entrapped here for years, unable to get out. Therefore we can teamkill each others without any repercussions. But if new player does the same, give him harsh ban. You'll be doing him a favor imho.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: the real god emperor on April 27, 2015, 11:04:54 pm
Vote for Gravoth!

How do we understand that he is a community man?
Just take* a look at the poll; he knows the people of cRPG so well that he even added a third selection to a yes or no poll so we can properly use our vote!

Heil Sweden meatballsgingercookiessalmongirls
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on April 27, 2015, 11:08:38 pm
It's the steroids talking. Shame, he was such a top lad before.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: //saxon on April 27, 2015, 11:11:45 pm
I dreamt i ate shit this night, and it was actually worse than i couldve imagined. Probably worse than it actually is. I didnt eat it voluntarily it just ended up in there somehow, dreams are weird. Had to tell people this somewhere since kenda didnt pay attention to me and it made me sad. This is probably relateable to this thread somehow, my dreams work like that.
You defiantly fit the criteria to be a cRPG admin then.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: FleetFox on April 27, 2015, 11:15:20 pm
I'll be honest lads, im all for a bit of fun and messing around. But its when it comes to the expense of others I have a  real issue with. Like has already been said most of you are adults and know what respect and courtesy is; so just maybe be a bit more considerate Krems? :)

As of right now I'm often hoping im not on your team just because you guys dont help the team as often as you should ^^ I'm just a simple honest man just asking you to remember the hopes and dreams of the others peeps you share cRPG with, we are a community so lets act and respect each other as such, what do you reckon?

Cheers
Your FleetFox
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on April 27, 2015, 11:15:39 pm
Gravoth plays like few hours per day, we don't need another admin which will stop playing when his favorite Pokemon game comes out.

You, my dear Suxon, are the perfect admin material. Calm, sensible and ever present on server.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Grumbs on April 27, 2015, 11:25:27 pm
Krems mode is actively encouraged by the current team balance system since it makes your team stronger the more you dick around. In conclusion, nerf ranged and fix team balance
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on April 27, 2015, 11:33:53 pm
no one getting banned but poor Oberyn

lol so that's why he was on NA last night

also yesterday I played a ton of crpg (binging after being gone so long), and I dreamed that two guys were somehow abusing the roll when knocked down tactic to roll across the whole map super fast. That's my CRPG dream I had thanks for reading.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on April 27, 2015, 11:39:46 pm
WITCHKRAFT you are the worst admin and cRPG player I've ever seen in my life. True story. Was playing on NA server but after seeing you for few rounds, had to stop. Tomorrow I donated to fond to help children with autism.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 27, 2015, 11:41:31 pm
Has anyone else noticed that the only people who stick up for Krems are also Krems?

Thats because everyone who thinks like Krems guys has joined us already, There are over 200 of us!
In fact 3 new guys joined us this evening alone. Krems is by far the most rapidly growing clan in cRPG in the last year, maybe 2 years.
We must be doing something right.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on April 27, 2015, 11:53:27 pm
Krems koolest klan in kistory. They take everybody, except me.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 27, 2015, 11:55:38 pm
Krems koolest klan in kistory. They take everybody, except me.

We did take you, but Fuma was butthurt and kicked you (noob fuma)  :mrgreen:

but you can rejoin anytime (as long as you follow our strict clan rules ofc!!)
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on April 27, 2015, 11:57:30 pm
Nope, Fin kicked me. Because I'm gypsie and he kraut. He knew :?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: F i n on April 28, 2015, 12:00:13 am
Nope, Fin kicked me. Because I'm gypsie and he kraut. He knew :?

:D
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: darmaster on April 28, 2015, 12:19:38 am
Bunch of haters, lololol I was just having fun. The way I have fun is by teamkilling dead weight on my team. Why should I get banned for enjoying myself? Oh, I'm sorry, is it against the rules? The rules that are selectively applied according to how drunk Fin and his coterie of moronic trolls are?

finally one of the most polished insulter of the community headed to the correct direction, against brain damaged cancer

Gravoth plays like few hours per day, we don't need another admin which will stop playing when his favorite Pokemon game comes out.

uhm no? he's always playing this shit actually.


the thing is fin is useful to the melee battlegrounds staff, having made the soundtrack (as far as i remember) so it's quite a fucked up situation we're facing right here; the cancer, the proper cancer, made it to the top and that is why it is so hard to eradicate this shit. i'd like to say thanks to oberyn for what he did, that seriously means a lot and thanks also to gravoth, for finally having brought to light this mess and also giving us good drama. thomek is no longer the hero this community deserves, but the one this community needs, please come back you purple knight, m bg dev, we need you, el director
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on April 28, 2015, 12:39:24 am
WITCHKRAFT you are the worst admin and cRPG player I've ever seen in my life. True story. Was playing on NA server but after seeing you for few rounds, had to stop. Tomorrow I donated to fond to help children with autism.

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Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 28, 2015, 12:40:23 am
thanks also to gravoth, for finally having brought to light this mess and also giving us good drama.

Actually theres been about 10 of these threads already, they aways end in the same way. Basically, all the serious gamers cry, we laugh at them, then nothing happens.

So far its like 10-0 to us.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Molly on April 28, 2015, 12:44:23 am
Where is the link to Fin's Kremstrollschwein song when you need it? :cry:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: darmaster on April 28, 2015, 12:52:21 am
in the mass grave
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: DKNhz on April 28, 2015, 01:17:32 am
Where is the link to Fin's Kremstrollschwein song when you need it? :cry:

Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Tiger on April 28, 2015, 02:21:06 am
WITCHKRAFT you are the worst admin and cRPG player I've ever seen in my life. True story. Was playing on NA server but after seeing you for few rounds, had to stop. Tomorrow I donated to fond to help children with autism.

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Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: darmaster on April 28, 2015, 03:35:54 am
okay japanese are strange but why why always 12 y o kids? theffuck?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Thomek on April 28, 2015, 04:09:45 am
I vouch for Gravoth and Saxon. I really wish I could play more, but little time  :cry:  I'll be back once I'm more in control with stuff I have to do.

And Fin ffs :) Hear the masses cry, take a look at yourself and the monster you have created. There is a time when enough is enough.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on April 28, 2015, 04:56:03 am
Hear the masses cry

You can't be serious?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: LordRichrich on April 28, 2015, 05:34:27 am
Speak out against Krems, you get called a serious gamer who can't take a joke.

When really, a lot of the time when Krems are on, you just lose interest. Rounds take forever, there's either too few (teams vs krems) or too many (team with krems) people who will fight rather than run away spamming QQ commands at you.

But yeah, apparently you can only be a serious gamer or a krems troll, there is no in between.


Also you changed a lot Krems, it used to be trolling the enemy team, offering the last guy duels and then trying to mass fist him, or STF HA nights, or picking one guy on the enemy team to bump down and troll all round. Why did it devolve from that into just pissing everyone off?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gurnisson on April 28, 2015, 07:13:35 am
Kicked from krems? No wonder Leshma is bitter nowadays
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gnjus on April 28, 2015, 08:17:13 am
The solution is simple: make it so that Krems banners are ALWAYS in the same team, ON THEIR OWN, everyone else on the other team (no matter the number of players on the server) and let 'em have their "fun".
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Finse on April 28, 2015, 09:00:21 am
All the Kremses fear



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Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 28, 2015, 09:11:54 am
The solution is simple: make it so that Krems banners are ALWAYS in the same team, ON THEIR OWN, everyone else on the other team (no matter the number of players on the server) and let 'em have their "fun".

Krems should be 3rd team.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gnjus on April 28, 2015, 09:22:03 am
Krems should be 3rd team.

I just rewatched complete Game of Thrones these days, in my opinion Mord would be a perfect Kremschnitter, I imagine they're all pretty much like him.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 28, 2015, 09:46:07 am
The solution is simple: make it so that Krems banners are ALWAYS in the same team, ON THEIR OWN, everyone else on the other team (no matter the number of players on the server) and let 'em have their "fun".

Yea, but that would probably require some semi complex coding by devs who don't even bother fixing their old patches or even add simple images for shop items in like the last 3 patches, so don't hold your breath.

Basically they don't care, we don't care, and those that do care...oh well, sucks to be them  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Hearst_ on April 28, 2015, 09:54:34 am
Jealous oneguards  :mad: :!:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Casul on April 28, 2015, 11:16:12 am
The solution is simple: make it so that Krems banners are ALWAYS in the same team, ON THEIR OWN, everyone else on the other team (no matter the number of players on the server) and let 'em have their "fun".

This is actually a great idea..  :idea:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Patoson on April 28, 2015, 12:18:02 pm
Cos we've never had an anti-Krems rage-thread before.

If Fin is cancer on the M:BG dev team, then he's damn good cancer if you've heard any of the soundtrack he's worked on. Just further reinforces my opinion that the butthurt anti-krems guys don't have a clue, cos if you hate Fin's work on the M:BG soundtrack you're nuts.

You can like someone's work/art but still don't like the person.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gnjus on April 28, 2015, 12:22:18 pm
This is actually a great idea..  :idea:

I know, that's why I proposed it.


I see it like this: it will either revive the mod (as literally EVERYONE who is not Krems will enjoy farming their precious xp/gold for free on Kremschnitter's expense, maybe they'll even get serious and start playing properly which would make it even better: 1 organized clan vs the rest, a win-win situation) or it will kill it off once and for all.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Molly on April 28, 2015, 12:26:41 pm
I know, that's why I proposed it.


I see it like this: it will either revive the mod (as literally EVERYONE who is not Krems will enjoy farming their precious xp/gold for free on Kremschnitter's expense, maybe they'll even get serious and start playing properly which would make it even better: 1 organized clan vs the rest, a win-win situation) or it will kill it off once and for all.
Krems is as much organizable as Bandits were :wink:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: darmaster on April 28, 2015, 01:45:51 pm
Cos we've never had an anti-Krems rage-thread before.

If Fin is cancer on the M:BG dev team, then he's damn good cancer if you've heard any of the soundtrack he's worked on. Just further reinforces my opinion that the butthurt anti-krems guys don't have a clue, cos if you hate Fin's work on the M:BG soundtrack you're nuts.

Eh? You're going nuts or something? When did I criticize fin work on m bg? I said he's a retard, there's a difference.

Krems is as much organizable as Bandits were :wink:


Don't you dare comparing these retards to a good trolling clan pls
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Molly on April 28, 2015, 01:57:59 pm
Don't you dare comparing these retards to a good trolling clan pls
Just shows that you never were in our TS during the high-time era...
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 28, 2015, 02:05:53 pm
Eh? You're going nuts or something? When did I criticize fin work on m bg? I said he's a retard, there's a difference

But he's not a retard though is he, he's a completely normal and intelligent guy, he leads a normal life. He's talented at what he does and he's a good laugh, the same for a lot of other Krems guys too. You are judging him by how he plays a game, so are we meant to judge everyone like this?

People can call us retards all day long, we are glad. Everytime one of these threads comes along we love it. These guys are actually dumb enough to give us the satisfaction of knowing that we have annoyed them while we all laugh about it.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Krave on April 28, 2015, 02:13:26 pm
Wait... What are you all even discussing here?

Path is clear:
Complaints about rules braking? -> Make proper ban thread -> Solve matter with admins

Nothing more, nothing less. Instead we got 5 pages full of drama, petty quarrels and general fighting within the community.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: woody on April 28, 2015, 02:19:17 pm
Why get upset? At fifteen, I had the will to  learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no  doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ;  at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could  do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the  square., Krems are maybe the last gaseous expulsion of the corpse.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: darmaster on April 28, 2015, 02:21:31 pm
But he's not a retard though is he, he's a completely normal and intelligent guy, he leads a normal life. He's talented at what he does and he's a good laugh, the same for a lot of other Krems guys too. You are judging him by how he plays a game, so are we meant to judge everyone like this?

People can call us retards all day long, we are glad. Everytime one of these threads comes along we love it. These guys are actually dumb enough to give us the satisfaction of knowing that we have annoyed them while we all laugh about it.

*behaves like a retard, this should settle. sorry that if i see people behaving like retards i usually call them retards.

Just shows that you never were in our TS during the high-time era...

as i said, one is a successful trolling clan, the other are reta people behaving like retards, with another big difference, which is probably why bandits weren't as hated by community as krems are now; if one of bandits made a mistake, he would have been punished, unlike now  :lol:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Akronus97 on April 28, 2015, 02:31:25 pm
But he's not a retard though is he, he's a completely normal and intelligent guy, he leads a normal life. He's talented at what he does and he's a good laugh, the same for a lot of other Krems guys too. You are judging him by how he plays a game, so are we meant to judge everyone like this?

People can call us retards all day long, we are glad. Everytime one of these threads comes along we love it. These guys are actually dumb enough to give us the satisfaction of knowing that we have annoyed them while we all laugh about it.

I definetely agree we shouldn't judge Krems' RL by watching them ingame. A deduction is just naiv and prevents us from having any kind of serious conversation.

It is hopeless anyway, still it would be awesome if some players (especially Krems) could just show more empathie for other people. Yes, others like to play this game without you destroying rounds. This is something you should respect. You will allege again that there are just too many haters in this game. This appears to be very weird to me, considering that even serious players who rarely rage complain here about your behaviour. You might disagree with that, but I always considered myself as someone who tried to tolerate your tks, ths and other troll actions, but you just manage it that everybody but you becomes mad in this community.
Actually I don't even know why I state this, you don't listen anyway, you will just keep on provocating. I hope you can prove me wrong...


Edit: Claiming that a growth of members is a proof for doing something correctly is ridiculous, because it just shows that there are some people who like it. Also, you are the big troll clan, thus trolls join you. Most other clans aren't. Consequently, people spread on all the other clans because they are not as "special" as Krems (e.g. just Barabe has around 125 members, dunno how many Vangaurds, Greys and all the other clans have - all in all way way more than Krems).
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: //saxon on April 28, 2015, 02:42:05 pm
Fin only bans people outside Krems so EU1 needs some adminning. Theres been teamkilling, delaying & brocoding going on this dark night with no one getting banned but poor Oberyn.

This thread isn't about krems trolling and acting like twonks, it's about fin banning anyone who breaks the rules, but he does far worse than anyone when it comes to breaking the fucking rules.

We need someone else who is active and can stop this madness.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 28, 2015, 02:46:49 pm
This thread isn't about krems trolling and acting like twonks, it's about fin banning anyone who breaks the rules, but he does far worse than anyone when it comes to breaking the fucking rules.

We need someone else who is active and can stop this madness.

Er, no its not. the thread subject is "ban all Krems" and refers to the horrendous Krems play yesterday as well as some idiot banging on about how he wants to be an admin.
if you have a problem with fin, go write it in his feedback thread.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: F i n on April 28, 2015, 02:59:33 pm

I'm not protecting anyone. I'm protecting what i consider the majority. I might misinterpret what MOST of the ppl want sometimes, but i cann tell you its a hard job.

I'm only playing the mod once in a while and trying to have fun. Me being retarded is a legit statement and nothing that could ever offend me.

Being retarded is the only way to at enjoy the game ATM - and not just for me. Basically the whole Server went nuts yesterday, non krems players included. You should know me well enough by now to know, that i'm the last person to prevent ppl from having tun. If that means, that 7 of 40 players are a pissed, so be it. When one of those players then decides to charge and couch an admin and 2 other ppl (and i couldnt give less shits if they're krems or not), its not having fun with mowt of the population, but it's a destructive and agressive act.

I do not care about banners. I kick and ban krems players as well without giving it a second thought. The fact that most of the players just were krems, of course makes it look bad - but what am i supposed to do?

Ban the whole server so a few pissed serious players won't call me a biased retard? Nope.

Bottom line is: you can have my admin if you think you're better off wihout me But you sure as hell won't take my banner.

But who ever takes it - keep in mind, that you'll always receive your shitstorm, no matter what.

Admins are human. Some are strict, some are a bit more forgiving. Since i'm the latter, i usually do not interfere as long as people are either (seem to) having fun or are able to solve their problems on their own. And that goes for every single one of you. Regardless of banner, religion, wealth or retard-level.


Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Perverz on April 28, 2015, 03:08:01 pm
give me admin rights and ill ban saxon and gravoth
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Kafein on April 28, 2015, 03:10:53 pm
i'm the last person to prevent ppl from having tun.

Admins for healthy food!
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Grumbs on April 28, 2015, 03:22:38 pm
I'm only playing the mod once in a while and trying to have fun. Me being retarded is a legit statement and nothing that could ever offend me.

Being retarded is the only way to at enjoy the game ATM - and not just for me. Basically the whole Server went nuts yesterday, non krems players included. You should know me well enough by now to know, that i'm the last person to prevent ppl from having tun. If that means, that 7 of 40 players are a pissed, so be it. When one of those players then decides to charge and couch an admin and 2 other ppl (and i couldnt give less shits if they're krems or not), its not having fun with mowt of the population, but it's a destructive and agressive act.

I do not care about banners. I kick and ban krems players as well without giving it a second thought. The fact that most of the players just were krems, of course makes it look bad - but what am i supposed to do?

Ban the whole server so a few pissed serious players won't call me a biased retard? Nope.

If the majority are in one clan then I think you should ban the whole clan. If I go to the cinema with a group and its nearly empty except for my group, that doesn't mean I can start having a party in there so people can't watch the film. Even if its 3/4 krems and 1/4 non-krems causing issues, they should all go and play something else if they cba playing cRPG and spoil it for the people who do. Wasn't on the server, just responding to your comment
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on April 28, 2015, 04:03:30 pm
If Fin is cancer on the M:BG dev team, then he's damn good cancer if you've heard any of the soundtrack he's worked on.

To be honest, Fin's music is by far the best thing we have seen or heard from Melee: Battlegrounds. Miles above other aspects of the game which are still serious mod quality and not really AAA class. Music is AAA class. Fin is very talented musician, I'll be proud old person in few decades because I had the privilege to hate on one of the music industry superstars.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 28, 2015, 04:03:46 pm
Gravoth plays like few hours per day, we don't need another admin which will stop playing when his favorite Pokemon game comes out.


I wish, thing is that every game released nowadays looks complete utter shit in my eyes, with very few exceptions and even those exceptions rarely hold my attention beyond 10 hours of play. Only game i play now is crpg really, with the exception of launching wastelands 2 for like 10 seconds loading in on a save then quitting instantly because i dont feel like comitting, then ill do shit, and eventually roll back into crpg for a couple mroe hours, maybe full day.

(click to show/hide)


I do understand that its probably not as easy as it sounds, adminning properly and fairly. But yesterday was just a incredibly poor display of adminning when you ban oberyn for teamkilling one second, then a krems member teamkills and teamhits down to -50 score but no penalty. We later have a krems delay the round for no reason but to run and delay, someone kills him, gets ban polled and yet nothing is done, no warning etc.

I later ask if teamkilling actually is free for all on the server, you answear yes and when im actually unsure if you are serious or not then something is messed up because ive basically seen every krems teamkill on purpose up to that point. Sure its funny to teamkill clanmembers and mess about (we've done some stupid shit within shogunate-byzantium-vanguard through the entire lifespan of crpg), but when that is basically the only thing you do then it gets tedious, dont lose rounds on purpose etc..



Ive long thought about applying for admin since theres never really been many active, like everyday multiple hours active, admins playing the game. And being one of those that do play so much, its not uncommon that i get really pissed off and forced to quit the game because of Brocoding, delaying and griefing going on, which is sad and should be prevented because i dont think im the only one.. I do understand when some enjoy a bit of messing around but it shouldnt be done to the point of delaying each round, common sense is kind of hard to pin point the borders of but i think most people should have a pretty good idea of when things are going too far.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: pogosan on April 28, 2015, 04:06:13 pm
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on April 28, 2015, 04:15:09 pm
When one of those players then decides to charge and couch an admin and 2 other ppl (and i couldnt give less shits if they're krems or not), its not having fun with mowt of the population, but it's a destructive and agressive act.

That is true but have shown serious lack of balls in that situation. Player couched you, an admin, and gets one hour ban (Thomek banned me once for one hour because he didn't like what I write in chat). On the other hand, I try to teamkill Russian racist bastard who's in full plate, not even taking 30% of his HP after five hits and you ban me for a week. Also I TK Patoson and get two days which is imho short ban for what I did.

Do not fear Oberyn, he's just random player like everybody else. Just like Mercs are random clan just like everybody else. People called me crazy for saying how Mercs are mod maker favorites, guess your action show that is true.

Btw. I know it isn't first Oberyn's ban for tk so don't play on that card. Been there when Paul banned him because he said he wasn't sorry for tking some horse archer. Also witnessed Oberyn and another Merc going on tking spree against Krems before this, but they didn't ask for ban thread.

If you want to act like a proper admin, be fair to everybody and don't play favorites. I'm in no way any worse teamkiller than Oberyn is. Yet I'm threatened with essay ban, while he gets one hour ban.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: darmaster on April 28, 2015, 04:19:39 pm
I'm not protecting anyone. I'm protecting what i consider the majority. I might misinterpret what MOST of the ppl want sometimes, but i cann tell you its a hard job.

I'm only playing the mod once in a while and trying to have fun. Me being retarded is a legit statement and nothing that could ever offend me.

Being retarded is the only way to at enjoy the game ATM - and not just for me. Basically the whole Server went nuts yesterday, non krems players included. You should know me well enough by now to know, that i'm the last person to prevent ppl from having tun. If that means, that 7 of 40 players are a pissed, so be it. When one of those players then decides to charge and couch an admin and 2 other ppl (and i couldnt give less shits if they're krems or not), its not having fun with mowt of the population, but it's a destructive and agressive act.

I do not care about banners. I kick and ban krems players as well without giving it a second thought. The fact that most of the players just were krems, of course makes it look bad - but what am i supposed to do?

Ban the whole server so a few pissed serious players won't call me a biased retard? Nope.

Bottom line is: you can have my admin if you think you're better off wihout me But you sure as hell won't take my banner.

But who ever takes it - keep in mind, that you'll always receive your shitstorm, no matter what.

Admins are human. Some are strict, some are a bit more forgiving. Since i'm the latter, i usually do not interfere as long as people are either (seem to) having fun or are able to solve their problems on their own. And that goes for every single one of you. Regardless of banner, religion, wealth or retard-level.

why protecting the majority? in many cases majority is far from being right; you have to work for what it's right; there are rules that were put to make the mod enjoyable in a certain direction, and people breaking them need to be punished; if you think the mod should survive solely on people behaving like retards, spamming voice chat commands, tking each other just because they're the majority, and not giving a single shit about rules you don't deserve to be admin, because for that kind of game, that kind of "fun" as ret krems call it, there's no need of admins. propose something on suggestion section, remove some rules, and if it gets approved you'll surely won't see any complaints by me for sure, unless there's a different behavior towards non krems people, just as it happened with oberyn.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Imperious on April 28, 2015, 04:25:02 pm
This Game need a Turk admin  because there is tons of turks in this game !!!
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Akronus97 on April 28, 2015, 04:37:30 pm
Even if we don't get Gravoth as admin, we should get at least another one or two active players regardless of the problems many people have with Krems and/or Fin. As already mentioned above there are too many delayers and other kind of annoying players (this time I don't mean Krems) who can do too much without being punished. As FIn said, he rarely plays. Time to get at least one more admin, a person who all  (or at least most) of us consider relieable!
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: F i n on April 28, 2015, 05:36:39 pm
why protecting the majority? in many cases majority is far from being right; you have to work for what it's right; there are rules that were put to make the mod enjoyable in a certain direction, and people breaking them need to be punished; if you think the mod should survive solely on people behaving like retards, spamming voice chat commands, tking each other just because they're the majority, and not giving a single shit about rules you don't deserve to be admin, because for that kind of game, that kind of "fun" as ret krems call it, there's no need of admins. propose something on suggestion section, remove some rules, and if it gets approved you'll surely won't see any complaints by me for sure, unless there's a different behavior towards non krems people, just as it happened with oberyn.

So what you're saying is, the right thing to do is ban and drive away the few ppl left, so you can enjoy an empty eu1 all night?

:S

U simply can not apply some of the rules that were introduced when there were 1000 + players / day.

(except the common sense one - which unfortunately is open to different interpretation.)
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Casul on April 28, 2015, 05:38:54 pm
This Game need a Turk admin  because there is tons of turks in this game !!!

yes, this.   Seriously, I think about that all the time on Eu 1.
+1 definitly
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Akronus97 on April 28, 2015, 05:41:52 pm
So what you're saying is, the right thing to do is ban and drive away the few ppl left, so you can enjoy an empty eu1 all night?

:S

U simply can not apply some of the rules that were introduced when there were 1000 + players / day.

(except the common sense one - which unfortunately is open to different interpretation.)

You mean your interpretation?^^
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: karasu on April 28, 2015, 05:57:12 pm
I do understand that its probably not as easy as it sounds, adminning properly and fairly.

It's not, never was and never will. You'll always be target of grudges and others simply because you literally can't please everyone while keeping the rules in mind.

It's a constant dramafest, and very few that propose to the admin task have this well carved in their brains, meaning that they eventually either decide to stop playing, or just ignore the fact that they are admins and try to have fun from time to time.

At the end of the day, someone has to do it. So here we are.


This Game need a Turk admin  because there is tons of turks in this game !!!

This is something that was discussed a lot back in the "active" time of the mod, and very much desired. Sadly it seems (or would seem) no turkish player was found with the desired mindset, and I doubt it matters in the current crpg stage.

Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Panos_ on April 28, 2015, 06:05:48 pm
people who want other people getting banned, deserve to be crucified.

C-rpg is full of fucking tryhards who cant stand anything else rather than other tryhards.


Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Rebelyell on April 28, 2015, 06:10:50 pm
people who want other people getting banned, deserve to be crucified.

C-rpg is full of fucking tryhards who cant stand anything else rather than other tryhards.
yea some player will cry about others all the fucking time
or about some class untill someone nerf it


on topic
we need more admins, gravy is good for that position
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 28, 2015, 06:23:09 pm
people who want other people getting banned, deserve to be crucified.

C-rpg is full of fucking tryhards who cant stand anything else rather than other tryhards.

People who want other people getting crucified, deserve to be banned.

crpg barely has any tryhards left tbh.. i guess some would consider me a tryhard, i dont really hate anything but people who make ruin the game for the rest of the server.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: F i n on April 28, 2015, 06:41:48 pm
i dont really hate anything but people who make ruin the game for the rest of the server.

My point exactly, only i consider 30 + players the rest. Not 10-.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: jtobiasm on April 28, 2015, 06:44:54 pm
Krems if you're getting drunk at your PC, sort your head art.

Am not one to judge like but thats fuckin sad.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/VfoC8YoQLxo[/youtube]
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Dionysus on April 28, 2015, 06:49:19 pm
I made art.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Akronus97 on April 28, 2015, 06:52:47 pm
My point exactly, only i consider 30 + players the rest. Not 10-.

This might be true in some situations, but that doesn't illustrate the way it is like on eu1 because usually it is the other way around. Doesn't mean I disrespect you or that I think that you are a bad admin (actually I like you)....I just think you are pretty wrong in this exact point
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 28, 2015, 06:58:53 pm
My point exactly, only i consider 30 + players the rest. Not 10-.

It was probably more like half the server who enjoyed the krems shenanigans yesterday though, not the majority. And on top of that a lot of rulebreaking was going on, so it was really miserable for those who wanted to play normal (or tryhard i guess its called) rounds.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: F i n on April 28, 2015, 07:07:13 pm
It was probably more like half the server who enjoyed the krems shenanigans yesterday though, not the majority. And on top of that a lot of rulebreaking was going on, so it was really miserable for those who wanted to play normal (or tryhard i guess its called) rounds.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/majority
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Casimir on April 28, 2015, 07:17:36 pm
Being retarded is the only way to at enjoy the game ATM - and not just for me.

It is sad to hear from the only active EU admin,   I'd like to believe that the appointed server admins would be able to enjoy the game, have fun and enforce the official rule set at the same time.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 28, 2015, 07:20:45 pm
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/majority

Quote
a number that is greater than half of a total

 a number of votes that is more than half of the total number

Yes? Half isnt the majority thats what i said.. So krems shouldnt be dedicing how the server is suppose to be played, even if they had the majority they shouldnt be changing the gameplay to making teamkilling and delaying allowed.

I have confused, maybe i just misunderstood your "rest of the server" post.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: vipere on April 28, 2015, 07:37:37 pm
Can i have admins rights ?

I will just ban some archers and all germans.

Thks
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: DKNhz on April 28, 2015, 07:42:45 pm
Edit: Claiming that a growth of members is a proof for doing something correctly is ridiculous, because it just shows that there are some people who like it. Also, you are the big troll clan, thus trolls join you. Most other clans aren't. Consequently, people spread on all the other clans because they are not as "special" as Krems (e.g. just Barabe has around 125 members, dunno how many Vangaurds, Greys and all the other clans have - all in all way way more than Krems).

Well, what if i told you that nearly everyone have an alt in Krems, including most of the *tryhards*. Just to make it clear, lets say all krems got banned, main and alt. EU population will be 5-10. no sarcasm, pure reality.

and some of those 5-10 ppl are here crying out loud, posting 30 messages in 1 thread and believing that they're the majority. i'm sorry but even if you post 1k messages in here, you still just one person.

Life is full of shit and stress, you need to chill out on your free time which is very, very, and very limited. if you're turning it a competition in a video game either you are a psychopat or braindead. if you don't get what i mean there, no worries, you will.
/-or just a kid who have nothing to do better than playing a video game and being good at it. i can accept that.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gurnisson on April 28, 2015, 07:45:55 pm
Just to make it clear, lets say all krems got banned, main and alt. EU population will be 5-10. no sarcasm, pure reality.

No
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: DKNhz on April 28, 2015, 07:47:02 pm
No

Let's try then
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 28, 2015, 07:49:04 pm
Well, what if i told you that nearly everyone have an alt in Krems, including most of the *tryhards*. Just to make it clear, lets say all krems got banned, main and alt. EU population will be 5-10. no sarcasm, pure reality.

and some of those 5-10 ppl are here crying out loud, posting 30 messages in 1 thread and believing that they're the majority. i'm sorry but even if you post 1k messages in here, you still just one person.

Life is full of shit and stress, you need to chill out on your free time which is very, very, and very limited. if you're turning it a competition in a video game either you are a psychopat or braindead. if you don't get what i mean there, no worries, you will.
/-or just a kid who have nothing to do better than playing a video game and being good at it. i can accept that.

True people probably have krems alts, but when the server was filled with krems, there still was 25+ players that werent krems, so 5-10 people doesnt sound right.

Also whats wrong with liking competition? Are you really saying that people liking different things to you are psychopaths? Why should others have to join your mindset on how to spend their free time? I guess i get what you are saying though but to me its very narrowminded and out of place since it is infact the krems changing up the game from being competative to being relaxed, and not the other way around.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on April 28, 2015, 07:54:20 pm
Many active players have Krems alt. Hearst, Rest in Peace, Spamwhore, can't remember other but there are plenty.

There isn't that many unique active players, just 30 people switching between alts.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: DKNhz on April 28, 2015, 08:14:49 pm
True people probably have krems alts, but when the server was filled with krems, there still was 25+ players that werent krems, so 5-10 people doesnt sound right.

Also whats wrong with liking competition? Are you really saying that people liking different things to you are psychopaths? Why should others have to join your mindset on how to spend their free time? I guess i get what you are saying though but to me its very narrowminded and out of place since it is infact the krems changing up the game from being competative to being relaxed, and not the other way around.

I can't see 25+ players here, can you?
as far as i remember, there were 25 players on my team, 5 of them applied Krems during this, and 15 of them were already Krems. enemy team was full of Risen(and few individual) and i didn't see them crying about Krems, so yes 5-10 ppl sounds right except half of these 5-10 were joined us for the banner.

Yesterday was kinda special day for us, oldmy old friendz reunion after 6/7 months. and it was just for an hour. you don't see 15to20 Krems invading eu1 everyday. too much drama for one hour thing which happened once in 2 years. You want to be an admin? fine, good luck, go make a thread or talk to someone who you need to talk etc. Krems hate won't make you one.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: darmaster on April 28, 2015, 08:23:23 pm
seriously fin? we've come to the conclusion that the majority should decide on things? even tho it's clear they're behaving against the rules that were given for this mod and they're aware of it? just because now it's the majority? i don't think that when the donkey team made the mod were thinking to these retards, and i don't think you do now, you're just trying to justify the fact you've become one of them by saying they're "the majority". chocolate chip cookies were the majority when einstein became fuhrer, just saying.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Falka on April 28, 2015, 08:25:54 pm
But he's not a retard though is he, he's a completely normal and intelligent guy, he leads a normal life. He's talented at what he does and he's a good laugh, the same for a lot of other Krems guys too. You are judging him by how he plays a game, so are we meant to judge everyone like this?

HOw else he is supposed to judge Fin if he doesn't know him IRL? And who fucking cares if FIn - or anyone else for that matter - is normal or talented IRL, this is not RL, if he acts in game like a retard - and he definitely does - then as far as I'm concerned he's a retard.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 28, 2015, 08:28:17 pm
I can't see 25+ players here, can you?
as far as i remember, there were 25 players on my team, 5 of them applied Krems during this, and 15 of them were already Krems. enemy team was full of Risen(and few individual) and i didn't see them crying about Krems, so yes 5-10 ppl sounds right except half of these 5-10 were joined us for the banner.

Yesterday was kinda special day for us, oldmy old friendz reunion after 6/7 months. and it was just for an hour. you don't see 15to20 Krems invading eu1 everyday. too much drama for one hour thing which happened once in 2 years. You want to be an admin? fine, good luck, go make a thread or talk to someone who you need to talk etc. Krems hate won't make you one.

Here? im talking about on the server yesterday. And if there were 25 people on your team then there probably was 25 on the other team aswell, and those arent krems because they would get stacked. So yes 25 people.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 28, 2015, 08:40:43 pm
HOw else he is supposed to judge Fin if he doesn't know him IRL? And who fucking cares if FIn - or anyone else for that matter - is normal or talented IRL, this is not RL, if he acts in game like a retard - and he definitely does - then as far as I'm concerned he's a retard.

Well then I feel sorry for you. I guess I'm lucky that I actually interacted with clan mates and other crpg guys out of crpg and got to know their personalities. Met up with some of them for beers and had great laughs talking about normal stuff on whatsapps group and shit.

I guess I should have just focused on their on game behaviour instead...I mean I thought the whole point of online gaming was to meet to people and interact with many different individual personalities, if I wanted to play against boring robots with no personality I would play single player.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Akronus97 on April 28, 2015, 08:44:02 pm
Well, what if i told you that nearly everyone have an alt in Krems, including most of the *tryhards*. Just to make it clear, lets say all krems got banned, main and alt. EU population will be 5-10. no sarcasm, pure reality.

and some of those 5-10 ppl are here crying out loud, posting 30 messages in 1 thread and believing that they're the majority. i'm sorry but even if you post 1k messages in here, you still just one person.

Life is full of shit and stress, you need to chill out on your free time which is very, very, and very limited. if you're turning it a competition in a video game either you are a psychopat or braindead. if you don't get what i mean there, no worries, you will.
/-or just a kid who have nothing to do better than playing a video game and being good at it. i can accept that.

Again a statement that does not mean anything. What if I told you that I know numerous players from other clans who have a little alt in Barabe. But this wasnt my point anyway! I never talked about banning all krems, you should have read what I have written above in the post you quotated. Also, having an alt in krems doesnt make you a "full" krems or troll. I just stress it again: I have no problems with trolls, I troll sometimes myself, I sometimes even enjoy watching YOU, but sometimes you go too far imo. That was my point
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Akronus97 on April 28, 2015, 08:44:41 pm
Well then I feel sorry for you. I guess I'm lucky that I actually interacted with clan mates and other crpg guys out of crpg and got to know their personalities. Met up with some of them for beers and had great laughs talking about normal stuff on whatsapps group and shit.

I guess I should have just focused on their on game behaviour instead...

+1
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Simon_Belmont on April 28, 2015, 08:50:07 pm
I can't see 25+ players here, can you?
as far as i remember, there were 25 players on my team, 5 of them applied Krems during this, and 15 of them were already Krems. enemy team was full of Risen(and few individual) and i didn't see them crying about Krems, so yes 5-10 ppl sounds right except half of these 5-10 were joined us for the banner.

Yesterday was kinda special day for us, oldmy old friendz reunion after 6/7 months. and it was just for an hour. you don't see 15to20 Krems invading eu1 everyday. too much drama for one hour thing which happened once in 2 years. You want to be an admin? fine, good luck, go make a thread or talk to someone who you need to talk etc. Krems hate won't make you one.

The problem I see with some Krems' players is the attitude of "we are the vast majority, we got an admin, you'll have to deal with our behaviour at all times". I've personally not had any real issues with Krems in Battle or DTV recently, but I don't play during most of the week so I can't really judge all that well. I don't want you to be banned and I don't want people to force you to play "properly" at all times. But I also wouldn't want to see more coment's like "QQ some moar, tryhards TROLOLOLOL *GOT HIM*" because it's frankly disgusting.

Imagine M: BG comes out and Krems is still a massive clan in that game. Would you want everyone to suddenly join with cloth armor to throw axes, lances, stones to each other and then fuck around for the rest of the round? Do you think newcomers and casuals will want to come back when half the server is fucking around doing jack and they are not in the mood for that? I really doubt it. That's why you should at least respect those who don't play 24/7 and may want to jump in for a few hours to enjoy themselves. Don't act like you are allowed to do anything just because the mod is "ded" and you're the most active clan.

Again, I still enjoy myself with or without Krems, but don't pretend this is all everyone else's fault. Some people dislike losing over and over just because half their team is made of naked Krem players, and you should CARE that those people are not having fun, and trust me, they are not all tryhards. I insinst, I DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH A BAN, but think about it from this point of view.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Krex on April 28, 2015, 08:56:14 pm
U simply can not apply some of the rules that were introduced when there were 1000 + players / day.
I say GIEB BACK LADDERS!!!
Who´s with me?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Akronus97 on April 28, 2015, 08:56:54 pm
The problem I see with some Krems' players is the attitude of "we are the vast majority, we got an admin, you'll have to deal with our behaviour at all times". I've personally not had any real issues with Krems in Battle or DTV recently, but I don't play during most of the week so I can't really judge all that well. I don't want you to be banned and I don't want people to force you to play "properly" at all times. But I also wouldn't want to see more coment's like "QQ some moar, tryhards TROLOLOLOL *GOT HIM*" because it's frankly disgusting.

Imagine M: BG comes out and Krems is still a massive clan in that game. Would you want everyone to suddenly join with cloth armor to throw axes, lances, stones to each other and then fuck around for the rest of the round? Do you think newcomers and casuals will want to come back when half the server is fucking around doing jack and they are not in the mood for that? I really doubt it. That's why you should at least respect those who don't play 24/7 and may want to jump in for a few hours to enjoy themselves. Don't act like you are allowed to do anything just because the mod is "ded" and you're the most active clan.

Again, I still enjoy myself with or without Krems, but don't pretend this is all everyone else's fault. Some people dislike losing over and over just because half their team is made of naked Krem players, and you should CARE that those people are not having fun, and trust me, they are not all tryhards. I insinst, I DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH A BAN, but think about it from this point of view.

Finally a pretty awesome comment on this discussion!!!
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Krave on April 28, 2015, 09:04:10 pm
...had great laughs talking about normal stuff on whatsapps group and shit.

That chat is far from normal  :D
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Torost on April 28, 2015, 09:08:59 pm
(click to show/hide)

Have not played in months ... still want krems banned4life! :)
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: DKNhz on April 28, 2015, 09:29:41 pm
Again a statement that does not mean anything. What if I told you that I know numerous players from other clans who have a little alt in Barabe. But this wasnt my point anyway! I never talked about banning all krems, you should have read what I have written above in the post you quotated. Also, having an alt in krems doesnt make you a "full" krems or troll. I just stress it again: I have no problems with trolls, I troll sometimes myself, I sometimes even enjoy watching YOU, but sometimes you go too far imo. That was my point

I wasn't targetting you personally, so take no offence.
Having an alt in Barabe is one thing, having an alt in Krems and trolling around is another. there is difference between them and you know what i meant.

Imagine M: BG comes out and Krems is still a massive clan in that game. Would you want everyone to suddenly join with cloth armor to throw axes, lances, stones to each other and then fuck around for the rest of the round? Do you think newcomers and casuals will want to come back when half the server is fucking around doing jack and they are not in the mood for that? I really doubt it. That's why you should at least respect those who don't play 24/7 and may want to jump in for a few hours to enjoy themselves. Don't act like you are allowed to do anything just because the mod is "ded" and you're the most active clan.

That will happen, most likely. It will be a pay to play game, so if there will be no pre-sale terms and conditions which includes gameplay rules, everyone can do whatever they want. but if there will be any and it won't fits me then i won't buy it. that applies for everyone. considering the fact that video games are releasing to make money, -it's not a charity work- no developer/publisher can set these kind of rules. atleast not on official servers and that's why there are private servers for
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: //saxon on April 28, 2015, 09:38:35 pm
ill ban saxon
You wouldn't have the minerals to ban me, mate.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Akronus97 on April 28, 2015, 09:40:29 pm
I wasn't targetting you personally, so take no offence.
Having an alt in Barabe is one thing, having an alt in Krems and trolling around is another. there is difference between them and you know what i meant.


There is no difference, barabes also troll sometimes, still having played and trolled around 1 or 2 times which is the case for many who have an alt in krems. Yes, you are a special clan, but that doesn't necessarily mean that a new alt in your clan is something else just because you define yourself differently than other clans. I've seen people playing with you for 1 day, after that I never saw them playing again with your tag and banner.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on April 28, 2015, 09:44:33 pm
Krems are special because they don't care about winning or k/d. They are the same in other aspects. Krems brocode? Yes. But so do Barabe, Vanguards and pretty much every other clan. There are individuals who don't care about brocoding in every clan, even in Krems. But in general, clannies avoid clannies if they can. Krems are no different than others.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 28, 2015, 09:58:13 pm
Krems are special because they don't care about winning or k/d. They are the same in other aspects. Krems brocode? Yes. But so do Barabe, Vanguards and pretty much every other clan. There are individuals who don't care about brocoding in every clan, even in Krems. But in general, clannies avoid clannies if they can. Krems are no different than others.

Vanguards dont brocode, you speak lies and filth.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on April 28, 2015, 09:58:44 pm
Hemmor...
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: DKNhz on April 28, 2015, 10:03:23 pm
LoL, now ppl started to declare Krems are no different than others just object me/or other Krems here. so all these years you were crying about something never exist. There is no problem then, case solved.

Krems clan worst clan. now you should reply NO ITS BEST.
i'm waiting.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: pogosan on April 28, 2015, 10:06:35 pm
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Akronus97 on April 28, 2015, 10:07:46 pm
Trolling is ordinary...
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 28, 2015, 10:26:38 pm
Trolling is ordinary...

Its only trolling if someone else gets upset, if no one cares, no one gets trolled.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: pepejul on April 28, 2015, 10:38:53 pm
PEPE IS KREMS AND NOW THEY WAN BAN US ALL ?

WHY ?

HATER ?

FUN KILLERS ?

WASTY FUCKING BUGGLES CROWLERS ? (I love english words I can't understand coz I'm fkin french gay !)
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: darmaster on April 28, 2015, 10:52:06 pm
Well then I feel sorry for you. I guess I'm lucky that I actually interacted with clan mates and other crpg guys out of crpg and got to know their personalities. Met up with some of them for beers and had great laughs talking about normal stuff on whatsapps group and shit.

I guess I should have just focused on their on game behaviour instead...I mean I thought the whole point of online gaming was to meet to people and interact with many different individual personalities that aren't utter retard and behave accordingly to the game rules i'm playing in, if I wanted to play against boring robots with no personality I would play single player.

no really it's not like it changes the fact that i shouldn't give a single fuck about some player i'm playing with IRL buisness, he is a virtual player to me and what i care about him is what he does in the virtuality; if i wanted to meet people in game and have affairs IRL i wouldn't fucking be in game, as simple as that; now if i manage to also get to know someone i met on the internet IRL good for me, but my main focus, when i play a fucking video game online is how someone behaves there (and related places, like forums).
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on April 28, 2015, 11:03:04 pm
Are you mad, darmaster?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Kidduis on April 28, 2015, 11:05:42 pm
Well, what if i told you that nearly everyone have an alt in Krems, including most of the *tryhards*. Just to make it clear, lets say all krems got banned, main and alt. EU population will be 5-10. no sarcasm, pure reality.

Atlest there wont be any krems on the server....
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Oberyn on April 28, 2015, 11:17:05 pm
Damn, I'm surprised Fin, you aren't even trying to hide what a biased piece of shit you are anymore. You're acting like you're the first admin who's ever been part of a clan. You're not by a long shot, the only difference is that no other clan has ever used a member of theirs in an admin position to consistently, day after day after day, break the rules, and then fucking justify it in forums as "normal". No other clan has ever even tried, because anyone stupid enough to pull something that blatantly retarded would've lost admin priviledges immediately. And yet you justify your bullshit by crying about how difficult balancing admin responsabilities and being part of a clan full of moronic rule breaking trolls is. Oh you poor opressed dear. Truly such a difficult situation. Here's an idea: Give up admin rights, you obviously aren't mentally capable of handling it.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Oberyn on April 28, 2015, 11:28:57 pm
So what you're saying is, the right thing to do is ban and drive away the few ppl left, so you can enjoy an empty eu1 all night?

:S

U simply can not apply some of the rules that were introduced when there were 1000 + players / day.

(except the common sense one - which unfortunately is open to different interpretation.)

List me the rules that cannot be applied anymore.
Then, if they can't be applied, and this isn't just "random bullshit reason number eleventy hundred why my selective application of the rules is totally cash, yo", maybe do the fucking role that was assigned to you and remove them as rules completely. Because as far as I can see what you're saying is what is "fun" as filtered through the twisted, broken, alcohol soaked krems perception is the main factor.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Riddaren on April 28, 2015, 11:30:10 pm
I'm sure Gravoth would be a good admin.

Krems are just like Mercs in a way, except that Krems focus on voice commands while Mercs focus on the scoreboard :lol:

Honestly, I like how the clans balances each other out and for me it makes the game more enjoyable overall.
I wouldn't like the game as much as I do without Mercs to humiliate or not being cheered up by voice commands being spammed at the start of every round.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Perverz on April 28, 2015, 11:32:51 pm
Damn, I'm surprised Fin, you aren't even trying to hide what a biased piece of shit you are anymore. You're acting like you're the first admin who's ever been part of a clan. You're not by a long shot, the only difference is that no other clan has ever used a member of theirs in an admin position to consistently, day after day after day, break the rules, and then fucking justify it in forums as "normal". No other clan has ever even tried, because anyone stupid enough to pull something that blatantly retarded would've lost admin priviledges immediately. And yet you justify your bullshit by crying about how difficult balancing admin responsabilities and being part of a clan full of moronic rule breaking trolls is. Oh you poor opressed dear. Truly such a difficult situation. Here's an idea: Give up admin rights, you obviously aren't mentally capable of handling it.

lady, you are a bit cocky!
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Oberyn on April 28, 2015, 11:32:57 pm
What rules do Mercs break with no repercussions? We've had plenty of admins in Mercs, when has there been a situation even similar to what krems do a daily basis?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on April 28, 2015, 11:35:45 pm
I'd actually like to see a merc as admin. They tend to be respectable players but not that active, perhaps Algarn?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 28, 2015, 11:35:59 pm
no really it's not like it changes the fact that i shouldn't give a single fuck about some player i'm playing with IRL buisness, he is a virtual player to me and what i care about him is what he does in the virtuality; if i wanted to meet people in game and have affairs IRL i wouldn't fucking be in game, as simple as that; now if i manage to also get to know someone i met on the internet IRL good for me, but my main focus, when i play a fucking video game online is how someone behaves there (and related places, like forums).

Well thats kind of shit for you then, when cRPG dies you can sit there and think about all the shit times that you had because of us, meanwhile us krems guys will still be in contact with eachother, laughing about all kinds of shit, going out and meeting up on the odd occassion that work/rl permits.

also lol at oberyns tears.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Oberyn on April 29, 2015, 12:06:36 am
Well then I feel sorry for you. I guess I'm lucky that I actually interacted with clan mates and other crpg guys out of crpg and got to know their personalities. Met up with some of them for beers and had great laughs talking about normal stuff on whatsapps group and shit.

I guess I should have just focused on their on game behaviour instead...I mean I thought the whole point of online gaming was to meet to people and interact with many different individual personalities, if I wanted to play against boring robots with no personality I would play single player.

You sad bastard, online games generally aren't places to go to "pick up" friends, you weird motherfucker, it's places where you go to play with friends you already have. It doesn't surprise me that you see the game that way, as basically an extended irc chat forum where you can go mess around with your friends, like some sort of facebook/game hybrid. That's exactly like you treat it. Sounds like a great idea, you should go make that game. Sadly, it isn't the one you're playing. You may have noticed that there's two teams, and your group of retards only constitutes a part of either one. MINDBLOWING, I know, that a team based objective game doesn't revolve around you and your twee fucking friendship forever brony bullshit. If that was all krems really wanted, you could go to one of the dead clan servers, or stick around on EU3, and buttfuck and voice spam at each other to your heart's content. But clearly that's not what you're after.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Uther Pendragon on April 29, 2015, 12:09:11 am
the only active EU admin
Just because I don't play on Eu1/Eu2 and only on Eu7, doesn't mean I'm inactive :[

There is my steam profile (http://steamcommunity.com/id/GiovanniJan/) linked in my admin thread, add me, message me, getting into game takes me less than 1-2 minutes.
EDIT: And, yeah, I know this is not perfect - I may join in without context, not knowing what is going on, but this is better than nothing. And anyway, what's the worst that could happen? :D
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 12:11:37 am
You sad bastard, online games generally aren't places to go to "pick up" friends, you weird motherfucker, it's places where you go to play with friends you already have. It doesn't surprise me that you see the game that way, as basically an extended irc chat forum where you can go mess around with your friends, like some sort of facebook/game hybrid. That's exactly like you treat it. Sounds like a great idea, you should go make that game. Sadly, it isn't the one you're playing. You may have noticed that there's two teams, and your group of retards only constitutes a part of either one. MINDBLOWING, I know, that a team based objective game doesn't revolve around you and your twee fucking friendship forever brony bullshit. If that was all krems really wanted, you could go to one of the dead clan servers, or stick around on EU3, and buttfuck and voice spam at each other to your heart's content. But clearly that's not what you're after.

You're right, that's not the game I'm playing. The game I'm playing is to annoy pricks like you with little to no effort on my part, and I'm winning.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on April 29, 2015, 12:11:51 am
I've shown this game to my friend and his girlfriend once, they lasted for few hours. Wouldn't call this game to play with ordinary people which are friends most of us have (so called normal people tend to have friends different than them).
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Oberyn on April 29, 2015, 12:15:45 am
You're right, that's not the game I'm playing. The game I'm playing is to annoy pricks like you with little to no effort on my part, and I'm winning.

Well, got to get that joy where you can get it I suppose. I don't know what being so desperate for friendship and companionship to the point that I start looking for it in a 5 year old mod would look like, or so fucked in the head I would actually enjoy this sort of artless, basic trolling. I suppose I should start feeling more charitable towards krems like you.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: LordRichrich on April 29, 2015, 12:16:38 am
Well thats kind of shit for you then, when cRPG dies you can sit there and think about all the shit times that you had because of us, meanwhile us krems guys will still be in contact with eachother, laughing about all kinds of shit, going out and meeting up on the odd occassion that work/rl permits.

also lol at oberyns tears.  :mrgreen:

Why is it so great that you Krems have met up and shit? I mean it's not a rare occurrence for gaming communities to meet, I've done it, albeit not with crpg players.

The general feeling of the Krems replies are "You don't enjoy the things we do, therefore you are wrong and you are butthurt". People enjoy competitive play. Shock horror right? I really don't know when Krems went from being funny trolling to 13 - 16 year old male come backs. People don't enjoy the same things, Krems, stop having this superiority complex about how you're the most super-duper bunch of guys out there. Even if it were true, which is subjective in any case, why can't you acknowledge that people enjoy different things to you?

Also the comment about M:BG was a good point. A large clan of players joins that with the sole intention to troll, it goes 1 of 2 ways. Either the game devolves into that sort of behaviour from everyone (ie not being played the way it is currently being designed to, which while not being an objectively bad thing, would suck for everyone wanting to have what M:BG is aiming to be) OR everyone gets sick of being trolled all the time and stops playing.

There's trolling and there's trolling. Getting a high off actively making players quit out of frustration/boredom is just weird to be honest. Actively pissing off remaining members of a small community is just crazy too, unless that's the end goal? From the ashes of crpg, Krems will rise, the new 4chan, the new troll army?

I don't really know what my point is, I don't have any active interest in playing the mod. But Fin is lenient on Krems players when it comes to rules. But even if that were cracked down upon, Krems would still troll. They enjoy finding the loophole that allowed them to bend the rules and not break them.


Also this is evidence that 3 years of university don't improve essay writing skills. I have no idea what I set out to write, got side tracked and have made no meaningful contribution.

Like Krems.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Nirvana on April 29, 2015, 12:17:41 am
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Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 12:22:59 am
Well, got to get that joy where you can get it I suppose. I don't know what being so desperate for friendship and companionship to the point that I start looking for it in a 5 year old mod would look like, or so fucked in the head I would actually enjoy this sort of artless, basic trolling. I suppose I should start feeling more charitable towards krems like you.

When did I say I play this game to make friends, but when you're in a clan with guys who you interact with everyday i would have thought it pretty normal to become friendly with them the same way you would IRL. I guess guys like you probably spent to much time alone in your room hunched over a screen so making friends is probably alien to you.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Oberyn on April 29, 2015, 12:24:24 am
When did I say I play this game to make friends, but when you're in a clan with guys who you interact with everyday i would have thought it pretty normal to become friendly with them the same way you would IRL. I guess guys like you probably spent to much time alone in your room hunched over a screen so making friends is probably alien to you.

You're right, I have yet to make any friendships that revolve around trolling and shitting up an online gaming community. Truly my life is bereft without this great experience.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: darmaster on April 29, 2015, 12:38:00 am
i'm sorry, i truly am for i have never understood how desperate some of you people are.

people who want other people getting banned, deserve to be crucified.

C-rpg is full of fucking tryhards who cant stand anything else rather than other tryhards.

god you're such a retard if you really think so, like people asking these brain damaged to be punished (which in this particular case coincides with banned) just want crpg to die and not make it a better place. just a thing krems, crpg without you does not mean empty, on the other hand, might get some people back.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: ecorcheur_brokar on April 29, 2015, 12:49:05 am
Wait... What are you all even discussing here?

Path is clear:
Complaints about rules braking? -> Make proper ban thread -> Solve matter with admins

Nothing more, nothing less. Instead we got 5 pages full of drama, petty quarrels and general fighting within the community.
The thing krems are always playing with the line. What is the difference between delaying and trying to survive? Where is the limit between tk for fun and too much tk that makes your team unable to win? How do you tell if someone is finishing to pick his nose or is waiting for his whole team to die to start delaying?

A "case" can not be made for those sort of things but an amdin could sort it out well most of the time. But when the admin is clearly biaised...

I remember once, vanguard did a train to hell and all jumped down of a cliff. The next day, the whole team had a ban warning  :shock:

Well, what if i told you that nearly everyone have an alt in Krems, including most of the *tryhards*.

I don't think when people write "krems" on the forum they mean each and every krems, there's actually a lot of krems that have respect for the rest of the team, like robinhud, etc. I would even say the majority has a tendency to troll but does it not in excessive amount (too much for my taste but largely bearable) like Micah, etc.

The problem comes from those who systematically wait for half of their team to die to begin to play and then delay alone for 2 minutes.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: oguz on April 29, 2015, 01:27:29 am
This Game need a Turk admin  because there is tons of turks in this game !!!

I can be that but cant stand my ping atm so ı dont play maybe after getting a good ping  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: F i n on April 29, 2015, 02:34:42 am
You're right, I have yet to make any friendships that revolve around trolling and shitting up an online gaming community. Truly my life is bereft without this great experience.

Better than, while doing the same thing, making enemies I suppose.

I've read like 2 of your posts, stumbling across words like "motherfucker"... and decided to just ignore you.

I'm not pointing fingers, and i really would've had an open mind about your opinion. Just not like that.

Also: if you want me to do something, or have serious complaints about someone - stabbing my face wih your heavy lance wont help you. Try "i" next time and let me do my "biased shit" job.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on April 29, 2015, 02:55:03 am
Dammit André, this was such a quality thread. And now you've buried it into the depths of Chamber of Tears. I curse you to spit tomorrow morning coffee.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: darmaster on April 29, 2015, 02:55:54 am
Now I understand what zottlmarch meant before, and I understand why this problem is left where it is; this is useless, and honestly I don't really care, I'm done with this mod since a lot of time.

One thing though, if and when (hopefully) m bg comes out I'd like to ask krems this one thing; I ask you to please behave exactly the same way you behaved on crpg these last months, to have the same way of having fun as you have here (cause you already mentioned this is your way of having fun) and please show us you're not brave anticonformist socially gifted majorities only on a ded mod.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: darmaster on April 29, 2015, 02:59:47 am
Only interesting thread in months on this forum and it gets moved in the most retarded section of the forum  :rolleyes: better go back to meanwhile in ukraine and fapocalypse
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on April 29, 2015, 03:05:29 am
One thing though, if and when (hopefully) m bg comes out I'd like to ask krems this one thing; I ask you to please behave exactly the same way you behaved on crpg these last months, to have the same way of having fun as you have here (cause you already mentioned this is your way of having fun) and please show us you're not brave anticonformist socially gifted majorities only on a ded mod.

The way Melee is envisioned, clan like Krems will certainly find their place under the Sun. Just like everybody else. Melee is much broader in scope, it isn't just chasing good k:d and high levels until your brain stops to function properly.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Molly on April 29, 2015, 09:42:11 am
From what I've read about Melee... there might not even be a K/D under normal circumstances.
Oh, the tears it will create.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 09:45:43 am
Well at least we can all agree on something now, that moving this thread to chamber of tears was gay!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: polkafranzi on April 29, 2015, 10:04:29 am
From what I've read about Melee... there might not even be a K/D under normal circumstances.
Oh, the tears it will create.

At least then GTX won't have to keep replacing his esc key every few days anymore.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 10:13:17 am
Now I understand what zottlmarch meant before, and I understand why this problem is left where it is;

Yep, I guess I'll see you again at the next one of these threads, although as we said before the other night was kind of a one off with all the guys joining who hadn't played in 6 months.  It will probably be a few months (or never) until we do it again.

Tbh this thread never really stood a chance, especially the fact that it was born out of a knee jerk reaction for fin completely legitimately banning someone for team killing and team hitting. I've had no interaction with oberyn before in game. I've never teamhit him or insulted him, yet he though it was fine to attack and team kill me totally unprovoked except for the fact I am Krems, then gravoth (who believes he should be admin just because he plays a lot and hates Krems) tries to say it was wrong for fin to ban him. hmmmm

Anyway, no harm done.

Krems is love. Krems is life





* 0 members of Krems were hurt during the making of this thread.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: polkafranzi on April 29, 2015, 10:22:22 am
On topic though, the mega krems trolling fest of a few nights ago, basically the reason behind this tears thread, was just a spontaneous idea I had because for the first time since christmas I had an hour or so to catch up with the clan and mess around a bit. I really doubt its a regular thing like most cunts are saying here. In fact, when I randomly catch up on the latest forum goings on, I hardly ever see any krems/fins admin drama thread qq. It seems to be a bit like "oh, thanks for reminding us we hate krems, lets create some drama on forum".

 I might be wrong, because tbh I really don't have time for all the wild accusations of "retards", "13yo kids", "you'll be the downfall of mbg" blablabla coming from some of the most hypocritical cunts you'll ever meet online, to even care anymore. This is all my opinion, just like the rest of you. Just a bunch of opinions from behind a screen.

Saying that, I still get some fucked up sense of satisfaction seeing all the elite pros coming here creating salty puddles for us all to frolick in. Can't explain it and don't need to.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: karasu on April 29, 2015, 10:27:45 am
Only interesting thread in months on this forum and it gets moved in the most retarded section of the forum  :rolleyes: better go back to meanwhile in ukraine and fapocalypse

Or 4chan/lereddit with that kind of mindset.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: ecorcheur_brokar on April 29, 2015, 11:36:31 am
Please someone explain me how to enjoy seeing a retard running alone in peasant cloth, when the whole team has already died 2 minutes ago? How to have fun when getting ganked 4 rounds in a row, because the team stays on spawn spamming chat command?

Maybe I have been mistaken and the goal of this mod was actually to spam chat command the fastest... Krems don't do the innocent: "Oh why are people complaining? I don't get why people are complaining just because we decided to trolling fest one night?"

 
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Micah on April 29, 2015, 11:42:51 am
In its core, this thread asks the not entirely uninterresting question of how to deal with/unite two aparently quite oposite and coliding gaming philosophies. I would not call them diametral or totally incompatible tho ... but thats a step to far already ...

On the one side, the pretty straight and game rule compliant, competitive mindset, on the other side, the ... let me call it "social" and "creative" type of gamers - for people who want a bit more of freedom and sillyness and are not anymore satisfied with the mere straight forward (and after a while meaningless) goal of the game ...

A good part of Krems are "older" and long term players who try to step out of the stressing raging circle the game produces in people - the way it cRPG works in a social term ... is quite questionable designed ... it sticks people in a box for a long time and randomly assigns sides for who fights against whom; only if you pick a banner, you can at least have a propability of who you will be not fighting ... this is not far from trying to train little soldiers to ultimately hate everyone who is not in their group of little soldiers on a notice.

On long term, this leads to a pretty unique and desturbing psychic situation imo ... people who dont want to hate, feel forced towards this kind of position - or they simply get bored of hating. Hating against other clans, classes, genders, playing styles and even against particular persons. (edit: also agains other nationalities, since many clans have regional and national roots)

Krems is not emerged randomly and its not without reason that alot of people join us ... newbees that dont feel to belong (yet) into pro clans and want to discover the game in a non-hardcore way, older players who got filled up with the hate and look for escape place, where the people and fun and emotions come first before the game.

This is what we represent when hugging until we get team killed or killed, or just stay at spawn for a bit to look at each other - the human being behind the pixel-avatar is more important than the game.
What we represent when we spam voice chat .... we a emulating communicativity and social behavior ... Anti rage-ramboing and over serious gaming.
What we represent when we go to an opponent and hug him, when we could of easily backstabbing him - K/D is not our goal, but leting the other have their fun too.
We want to reduce the hate and we aim at those self-assigned dominant mindsets who want to force us to keep the hate-mongering up ...

Its entirely unplanned, unconspirative ... simply emerged from the effect, cRPG has on certain mindsets. Like people who want to play a fighting game - for fun - but not to emotionally dominate the other guy and jerk of e-peen ... yet cRPG seems to enforce this emotional condition in players over a longer playtime ... represented in flaming ingame chat and crybabyism in forums ...

Krems is a meta game consequence and you will not prevent or stop us by hate statements and ban threats - which only confirm us in our position.

We are above cRPG  :P
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: karasu on April 29, 2015, 11:57:48 am
Krems is a meta game consequence and you will not prevent or stop us by hate statements and ban threats - which only confirm us in our position.

We are above cRPG  :P


Probably, but you're not above the rules made by the mod creators, mod which gives you countless hours of fun for free.

We all have a little "krems" inside us, but like in everything in life, there are limits where being "a funny guy" and "a jerk" fuse easily with each other.



Is it so hard to play normally and have fun with it? If you can't play normally abiding by the rules and have fun at the same time, then probably it's time to move on to other games that may give you that feeling.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 12:12:10 pm

Probably, but you're not above the rules made by the mod creators, mod which gives you countless hours of fun for free.

We all have a little "krems" inside us, but like in everything in life, there are limits where being "a funny guy" and "a jerk" fuse easily with each other.



Is it so hard to play normally and have fun with it? If you can't play normally abiding by the rules and have fun at the same time, then probably it's time to move on to other games that may give you that feeling.

Yea, that's why a lot of Krems aren't active anymore, its not fun for us so we don't play. The other night was a one off.

And we know we are not above the rules, that was demonstrated when krems member fuma kotaro received a month ban + essay just recently. That ban was due to leshma following the proper guidlines and making a ban request with all the appropriate info and screens, fuma accepted the punishment and I think learnt his lesson. However idiots like oberyn decide that instead of following procedure they will instead dish out their own justice and team kill us in completely unprovoked attacks and then come here and think they have a right to cry about it when they get banned because of it.

To all the guys raging, if our behaviour was so bad the other night, where were the ban requests?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Mr.K. on April 29, 2015, 12:19:34 pm
Lots of us spam voice commands, have some fun with players (aka people) we know, let people duel from time to time and so on, but there needs to be a line you cannot cross. When your actions actively hurt the way other people want to play the game you have crossed the line and that's what the Krems do every single day without any sort of punishment.

Hugging at spawn is fine if the reason would actually be making someone who joined the server feel welcome. [H]ello!, have a hug and go die on the battlefield, but no one can honestly say that's how the Krems play the game. No, they hug each other at spawn for two minutes, wait until their team is dead so they can get their 10 seconds (more like two minutes) in the spotlight afterwards. The argument from these trolls is that it causes no harm to anyone, but that's clearly not true. The Krems team is bound to lose every single round due to fighting outnumbered.

There are plenty of skilled Krems players that dance the fine line of being fun and being a douche. Then there's the majority of them that have find annoying other people to be funny and these are the people admins need to start banning. The rules are open to interpretation, but it's really hard to make a ban thread showing how what the Krems do is wrong. We need active admins who can spectate the behaviour and act accordingly.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Son Of Odin on April 29, 2015, 12:27:14 pm
Krems are like Stifler :rolleyes:


Kind of dicks sometimes but they are your friends :D
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Micah on April 29, 2015, 12:27:38 pm
Is it so hard to play normally and have fun with it? If you can't play normally abiding by the rules and have fun at the same time, then probably it's time to move on to other games that may give you that feeling.
"normally" ... like what ... an NPC ? A robot abiding the rules ?

"... then probably it's time to move on to other games that may give you that feeling."

Thanks for your concern, but i am fine  :D ... Krems are a expression of a considerable part of the playerbase ... of players that actually want to play the game in a fun way for them which they dont find in the "normal" part of the cRPG-verse. Now it became a quasi part of cRPG normality ...

Rules however, are an emergency tool ... its not in the power of the rules and their creators or executioners to make people have fun  ... thus they are not part of the matter which should be contemplated here first imo.

As i mentioned, the question is how to find a compromise and a unifying space, satisfying both, competitive and creative mindsets ...

 ... And it should start by understanding each other, not by waving around rule-sheets  :P
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Casul on April 29, 2015, 12:37:19 pm
When your actions actively hurt the way other people want to play the game you have crossed the line


It hurts us to see people who dont care about new players, peasants, lowbies and harmless people at all.


Seriously, how can you think we are ruining the game when so many tryhards dont care about them.   What is this...I mean wtf, why are some killing a completly new player at spawn (cav esp) and then come crying because the friendly Krems guys are spamming qqh again and hugging each other around and beeing the reason why cRPG is dead.

I know they need it for their ego, no worries. 

But to say Krems is the reason why the serves are empty is the lazy/easy way :P


I am sure all of you know that no player would join cRPG actively these days, they cant stand any chance. You need an excuse why the serves are empty, and thats Krems.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Casimir on April 29, 2015, 12:43:52 pm
New players should be able to enjoy the game and respect the rules, these two things should be the one and the same. 

The attitude that the only way to have fun is to break the rules is something that should never be present in an admin and it speaks the the abhorrent state that this community has now reached that such people are selected to look over the servers.

If you want to go an play some kind of social trolling game go play PW mod or something like that. cRPG has always been about fighting and competitive game-play, there are no passive or social game modes, so why the fuck are you trying to make it into something it ain't?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 12:44:25 pm
It hurts us to see people who dont care about new players, peasants, lowbies and harmless people at all.


Seriously, how can you think we are ruining the game when so many tryhards dont care about them.   What is this...I mean wtf, why are some killing a completly new player at spawn (cav esp) and then come crying because the friendly Krems guys are spamming qqh again and hugging each other around and beeing the reason why cRPG is dead.

I know they need it for their ego, no worries. 

But to say Krems is the reason why the serves are empty is the lazy/easy way :P


I am sure all of you know that no player would join cRPG actively these days, they cant stand any chance. You need an excuse why the serves are empty, and thats Krems.

(click to show/hide)

shut up you 13 year old retard.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Thomek on April 29, 2015, 12:46:30 pm
I generally agree with Micah's analysis of how and why Krems exists. As what is its causes.

A bit of fun now and then is not a problem, but there is a limit somewhere, and I suspect that limit was reached a long time ago.

As others said, we are a very small community right now, and we have to respect each other. Krems is feeding on others trying to play the game how its meant to be played, and if they leave, Krems might as well be alone in an otherwise empty server.

If their behaviour results in delaying, their own team loosing or general griefing the choices should be simple.

Start behaving, leave the server for an empty one or get a ban.

Again, shouldn't be some Nazi style execution of Krems players or others. As long as its fun its fun, but they need to be let know when its not anymore and when enough is enough, and what the consequence of not taking the hint is.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 12:57:20 pm
I generally agree with Micah's analysis of how and why Krems exists. As what is its causes.

A bit of fun now and then is not a problem, but there is a limit somewhere, and I suspect that limit was reached a long time ago.

As others said, we are a very small community right now, and we have to respect each other. Krems is feeding on others trying to play the game how its meant to be played, and if they leave, Krems might as well be alone in an otherwise empty server.

If their behaviour results in delaying, their own team loosing or general griefing the choices should be simple.

Start behaving, leave the server for an empty one or get a ban.

Again, shouldn't be some Nazi style execution of Krems players or others. As long as its fun its fun, but they need to be let know when its not anymore and when enough is enough, and what the consequence of not taking the hint is.

I completely agree, If Krems guys are misbehaving and an unbiased admin decides they should be banned then that's fine, also if a regular player thinks they are behaving badly (like leshma did with fuma) please make a ban request, if the Krems member is found guilty then he will be banned.

What I don't agree with is that instead of doing this, the more serious players instead decide to make pointless threads insulting and whining about Krems, or go on unprovoked vigilante teamkilling sprees against innocent Krems members and then complain when they get punished for this. Then you have guys requesting to be made admins for no other real reason except a personal vendetta against Krems.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Mr.K. on April 29, 2015, 01:02:50 pm
It hurts us to see people who dont care about new players, peasants, lowbies and harmless people at all.

Cut the crap. Most big clans have done much more in welcoming new players in this mod than Krems has. It's not about hugging them at the spawn, it's about letting them in on the basics, like fighting. The skill level of cRPG is insanely high atm. There's no way a new player will ever have enough time to get to a competitive level in this mods life time, which is sad.

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But to say Krems is the reason why the serves are empty is the lazy/easy way :P

Dat strawman. The actual argument is that you guys make it emptier by not allowing the rest of us enjoy the competitive nature of this game.

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This game is utter bullshit when you get spawnraped every round , waiting 5 minutes again to spawn and get headshotted or couch lanced 20 sec later

Are we talking about new players here? Support them then - get a long pokey weapon and stop the cav. Hugging them hardly helps against a couch lance.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on April 29, 2015, 01:06:52 pm
We still need a new admin or two guys, I'm glad the flaming has slowed down so we can actually discuss the problem and the source of that is a lack of strong admins IMO. Gravoth has put himself forward which is fine but one other would be great. (If Gravoth even gets accepted)
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Molly on April 29, 2015, 01:13:40 pm
I've banned fellow Krems several times. So has Fin on the spot when on the server and he never interfered in ban requests against Krems.
Accusations against Fin are so full of bullshit, Karasu did well in moving the thread.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Shemaforash on April 29, 2015, 01:15:30 pm
It's old news that krems is the hemorrhoids of crpg, but how long has it been since the hemorrhoids emerged? A year? Time to get some treatment 
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 01:20:51 pm
We still need a new admin or two guys, I'm glad the flaming has slowed down so we can actually discuss the problem and the source of that is a lack of strong admins IMO. Gravoth has put himself forward which is fine but one other would be great. (If Gravoth even gets accepted)

I personally wouldn't like to see gravoth as an admin. An admin is meant to be impartial and unbiased where as Gravoth has shown a deep rooted hatred towards a particular clan (Krems). I would be concerned that our members wouldn't be treated fairly or equally and would instead be unfairly treated because of their name tag/clan banner.

In his own words:

Give me admin, ill kick all krems and ill be online once or twice a week. Ty.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: darmaster on April 29, 2015, 01:27:25 pm
And you really think he'll start banning you all without reason? I'm pretty sure he'll wait for you to give him reasons for banning you, then you can discuss whether it was justified or not in the unban section
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: vipere on April 29, 2015, 01:33:38 pm
thats what a trial is for.

give him few weeks to show if he is a good or an awfull admin.
And the most important point : he will have a post on the forum for his disturbing gifs.

I'm pretty sure he can be a good admin and he is not german and archer which is nice.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 01:36:16 pm
And you really think he'll start banning you all without reason? I'm pretty sure he'll wait for you to give him reasons for banning you, then you can discuss whether it was justified or not in the unban section

No, i'm not saying he won't ban for a reason. I'm saying that he will be more lenient towards non krems members and far more strict towards krems members.

For example, he found it to be completely fine when Oberyn made an unprovoked attack on 3 Krems members and was outraged that he received a ban for it, yet he finds it to be in breach of the rules if two Krems members teamhit eachother for fun or do some voice spam.

If you don't see that as biased, then sadly you must be (as you like to say) retarted.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Lars on April 29, 2015, 01:39:23 pm
"Krems are worse than Turks"
- Armenians

"Krems are the only thing worse than chocolate chip cookies and capitalism"
- Iosif Stalin

"I should have  expelled all krems from europe, they are a bigger threat than jews and communism"
- Adolf Hitler

"Krems are föking bästards, they are the most bästards of all them bästards, they even robbed grandma!
- Mick O'Mack and Mack McMick, Irish gipsy "boxers"

"Krems are the only thing more repulsive than southern italians"
- Lega nord supporter

"Krems are even more horrible than atomic bombs"
- Kyoshi Kobayashi, Hiroshima bombing survivor
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: F i n on April 29, 2015, 01:40:17 pm
then sadly you must be (as you like to say) retarted.

He meant restarted. Stop calling ppl names. !! 

Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: darmaster on April 29, 2015, 01:48:54 pm
No, i'm not saying he won't ban for a reason. I'm saying that he will be more lenient towards non krems members and far more strict towards krems members.

For example, he found it to be completely fine when Oberyn made an unprovoked attack on 3 Krems members and was outraged that he received a ban for it, yet he finds it to be in breach of the rules if two Krems members teamhit eachother for fun or do some voice spam.

If you don't see that as biased, then sadly you must be (as you like to say) retarted.


what should i see as biased? nothing yet has happened, you're just making assumptions. i think he'll be strict towards everybody and he'll certainly warn before doing anything, as it should be. i use the term retarded for someone who has done something retarded already, as going around with cups spamming voice chat command and asking for it to be considered normal when it's pretty clear that the only fun is in mocking the others.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 01:54:18 pm
Excuse, what assumptions am I making? I am giving you actual facts based on quotes and actions by the person in question.

You on the other hand are the one who is actually making assumptions:
i think he'll be strict towards everybody and he'll certainly warn before doing anything, as it should be.


You blew my mind with your level of dumbness.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: ecorcheur_brokar on April 29, 2015, 01:58:56 pm
I personally wouldn't like to see gravoth as an admin. An admin is meant to be impartial and unbiased where as Gravoth has shown a deep rooted hatred towards a particular clan (Krems). I would be concerned that our members wouldn't be treated fairly or equally and would instead be unfairly treated because of their name tag/clan banner.

In his own words:
Give me admin, ill kick all krems and ill be online once or twice a week. Ty.

Haha you're just acting the stupid guy. He said that as a joke. Funny how you're so sure that he will be biaised when he has done nothing yet and how biaised accusation on fin are in your opinion absurd when we saw him so many times being lax toward krems.

And big clans not helping new players must a joke too. I actually never saw any krems answer a newbie question apart troll answer. It is often player of big clan answering their question.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on April 29, 2015, 02:05:02 pm
The other thing to consider is a 55% majority in a 3 way vote is a pretty big majority. If it's OK to cause problems on a server if you have the majority doing it then surely Gravoth can be given a trial with a majority vote.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: F i n on April 29, 2015, 02:07:49 pm
Haha you're just acting the stupid guy. He said that as a joke. Funny how you're so sure that he will be biaised when he has done nothing yet and how biaised accusation on fin are in your opinion absurd when we saw him so many times being lax toward krems.

i'm lax towards everyone. :/
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 02:09:29 pm
Haha you're just acting the stupid guy. He said that as a joke. Funny how you're so sure that he will be biaised when he has done nothing yet and how biaised accusation on fin are in your opinion absurd when we saw him so many times being lax toward krems.

And big clans not helping new players must a joke too. I actually never saw any krems answer a newbie question apart troll answer. It is often player of big clan answering their question.

Firstly thanks for the nice insult.

Secondly yes I am aware that the particular comment was made in jest, however if you take the time to look through gravoths posts you will see many other posts in which he displays his disliking for Krems and Krems members.

Thirdly, I'm not talking anything about Fin, if you have a problem with Fin take it to his admin feedback thread.

Fourtly I already wrote my reasons why I thought he would be biased and what facts I was using to come to this conclusion, you don't have to agree but to completely ignore an opinion just becasue it differs from yours is pretty dumb on your part.

Finally about your opinions on big clans and helping new players. You do know that Krems is actually the 4th biggest clan in EU right? and yes we do help new players, giving them new items and gold and all sorts of other help. There was even a period we used to give new krems guys 100k when they joined, ofc you didn't know any of this and didn't bother trying to find out before you made your statements, typical.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Shemaforash on April 29, 2015, 02:29:28 pm
congrats u donated some money to new krems meanwhile uve been shitting all over teams that you get autobalanced on for a year
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: darmaster on April 29, 2015, 02:54:47 pm
You blew my mind with your level of dumbness.

if you could tell me where i've been dumb maybe..? as i said, if by any chances gravoth gets admin rights, being him always online on crpg, he would do it rightly, won't waste his chance to act like a krems IF he was given admin power.

edit: On a serious note, im very actively playing the game unlike the current admins. I would warn before kick then ban etc, fair admin duties. Im just sick of delayers & brocoders which are pretty common these days. Teamkilling doesnt happen often outside of this kremsinvasion, but when they do I WILL BE THERE.

i don't know what you're afraid of being him admin, you have one big piece on your side, let us "tryhards" have at least an active admin on our side too. if anything goes wrong you can always complain on IRC and unban section, i don't see where the problem is.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 03:20:36 pm
if you could tell me where i've been dumb maybe..? as i said, if by any chances gravoth gets admin rights, being him always online on crpg, he would do it rightly, won't waste his chance to act like a krems IF he was given admin power.

i don't know what you're afraid of being him admin, you have one big piece on your side, let us "tryhards" have at least an active admin on our side too. if anything goes wrong you can always complain on IRC and unban section, i don't see where the problem is.

Well the fact he even called this thread "ban all Krems"  kinda shows his mentality towards us, he could be a great admin but i still think his vision could be clouded by his disliking if us, but anyway I'm bored of explaining. Tbh I don't care who becomes admin here,in my opinion its like the worst job in the world anyway, especially in this community. I dont even play anymore, i just want to make sure my kremsies get treated fairly.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: pepejul on April 29, 2015, 03:21:10 pm
PEPE has been admin once.. he banned himself instantly and removed admins rights.. end of story.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 03:25:47 pm
PEPE has been admin once.. he banned himself instantly and removed admins rights.. end of story.

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Micah on April 29, 2015, 03:42:48 pm
Pretty hillarious and hypocritc, in my eyes, to try to turn this thread into an admin application, based on a community polarizing matter for an obviously prejudiced guy who is trying to steer up the heat in order to grab even more votes from hate projecting community part ... like a politican abusing incidents in his favor ... but in such an shamelessly and insultingly obvious way.
 ... what a laughable and way beyond doubble-facepalm-worthy attempt.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: darmaster on April 29, 2015, 03:52:25 pm
yes how couldn't i see it? it's quite obvious the parallelism between a politican trying to get votes over incidents and gravoth saying he's tired of krems trolling and wants someone, even himself, to take care of it, fair comparison crpg-RL.

Well the fact he even called this thread "ban all Krems"  kinda shows his mentality towards us, he could be a great admin but i still think his vision could be clouded by his disliking if us, but anyway I'm bored of explaining. Tbh I don't care who becomes admin here,in my opinion its like the worst job in the world anyway, especially in this community. I dont even play anymore, i just want to make sure my kremsies get treated fairly.

ye maybe you couldn't get the "on a serious note" bold sentence, should have stressed it more


edit: On a serious note
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 04:09:35 pm
yes how couldn't i see it? it's quite obvious the parallelism between a politican trying to get votes over incidents and gravoth saying he's tired of krems trolling and wants someone, even himself, to take care of it, fair comparison crpg-RL.

ye maybe you couldn't get the "on a serious note" bold sentence, should have stressed it more

Yes, I guess I should just ignore a years worth of him talking bad about Krems just because he wrote ''On a serious note: bla bla I will be a good admin bla bla'' under one of his posts.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: ecorcheur_brokar on April 29, 2015, 04:18:25 pm
I dont even play anymore, i just want to make sure my kremsies get treated fairly.
So you're actually the krems equivalent of Xant...I shouldn't even bother to argue with you.

The fact that gravoth dislike certain krems doesn't mean he will do his admin job poorly. Everybody have his preferences and resent but that doesnt have to interfer with their judgment. One can be fair without being a robot.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: F i n on April 29, 2015, 04:20:18 pm
One can be fair without being a robot.

But appearantly not without being called a biased retard :(
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 29, 2015, 04:25:48 pm
I personally wouldn't like to see gravoth as an admin. An admin is meant to be impartial and unbiased where as Gravoth has shown a deep rooted hatred towards a particular clan (Krems). I would be concerned that our members wouldn't be treated fairly or equally and would instead be unfairly treated because of their name tag/clan banner.

In his own words:

Well obviously having a biased admin (fin) hasnt been a problem so far. Oberyn got banned and krems member who did the same teamkilling remained on the server throughout the night. I dont see why you would be bothered with it now?

Not saying i would treat krems unfairly, but you really cant be surprised that krems would be the most targetted since their whole enjoyment in the game is generally based on making others watch them have their own sort of fun. If you know vanguard, or well old byz mentality we generally go for eachother over randomers when we get the chance. If anything my clan should be more scared than krems if i would get admin.

As for the rest of the server, anyone legitimately delaying, teamkilling, brocoding gets the same treatment. I hate that shit so much.

Give me a shot at admin, or dont. To me really it doesnt matter much, ill be playing untill the servers are complete dead. But crpg does need active admins, so please do admin someone.


Also Chamber of QQ? Saddest.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Micah on April 29, 2015, 04:26:05 pm
yes how couldn't i see it? it's quite obvious the parallelism between a politican trying to get votes over incidents and gravoth saying he's tired of krems trolling and wants someone, even himself, to take care of it, fair comparison crpg-RL.

ye maybe you couldn't get the "on a serious note" bold sentence, should have stressed it more
Sorry, but you missed the point my friend.

I was talking about the "bad politicans" ... who dont try to solve issues and rather only abuse it. Good politicans and also good admins should try to mediate problems and solve conflicts.

And you sir are for some strange reason declaring yourself his spokesman(... cant he explain himself sufficiently ? ), in some pretty blunt way, including insults and quite inconsistant statements about very negative consequences for alot of players (humans btw) ... far away from any attempt to understand the matter ... presented with a complete lack of empathy ... i, regretably, can only call that hate blinded.

How you even think this will help your or Gravoth's matter, who appears to agree with what you dump here ? When all you achieved here was destroying and overspamming each and every attempt for a constructive and sensible discussion ?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Molly on April 29, 2015, 04:30:34 pm
i'm lax towards everyone. :/
Funny how everyone is over-reading this statement when it's actually all that is needed as information.
An admin is supposed to treat everyone the same, right?

Just imagine Fin as the anti-pole to Thomek. Even more funny considering how much shit Thomek had to endure for his approach which the very same people are calling for now.

inb4 "We need someone in the middle!!1"... yea, go f*** yourself piss off...
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 29, 2015, 04:30:40 pm
And you sir are for some strange reason declaring yourself his spokesman(... cant he explain himself sufficiently ? ), in some pretty blunt way, including insults and quite inconsistant statements about very negative consequences for alot of players (humans btw) ... far away from any attempt to understand the matter ... presented with a complete lack of empathy ... i, regretably, can only call that hate blinded.

How you even think this will help your or Gravoth's matter, who appears to agree with what you dump here ? When all you achieved here was destroying and overspamming each and every attempt for a constructive and sensible discussion ?

Well when im at work i cant really speak much for myself while i see a lot of things being sad that i consider untrue. Darmaster covers for me pretty well which is nice to see since the thread is going by 4 pages untill im back from work.

Also
>implying sensible discussion
atleast nothing more sensible thats actually going on right now, thats just how its going to look like when the groups have such differing opinions.


Pretty hillarious and hypocritc, in my eyes, to try to turn this thread into an admin application, based on a community polarizing matter for an obviously prejudiced guy who is trying to steer up the heat in order to grab even more votes from hate projecting community part ... like a politican abusing incidents in his favor ... but in such an shamelessly and insultingly obvious way.
 ... what a laughable and way beyond doubble-facepalm-worthy attempt.

I meantioned it earlier, but i have considered applying for admin for a while now and the event just gave me that final push to do it. At first i was not really being serious though with the thread but fin said add poll, so i thought i might aswell actually go for it. Also i dont really see any admin application part of the forum so hm.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 04:32:26 pm
Well obviously having a biased admin (fin) hasnt been a problem so far. Oberyn got banned and krems member who did the same teamkilling remained on the server throughout the night. I dont see why you would be bothered with it now?

Not saying i would treat krems unfairly, but you really cant be surprised that krems would be the most targetted since their whole enjoyment in the game is generally based on making others watch them have their own sort of fun. If you know vanguard, or well old byz mentality we generally go for eachother over randomers when we get the chance. If anything my clan should be more scared than krems if i would get admin.

As for the rest of the server, anyone legitimately delaying, teamkilling, brocoding gets the same treatment. I hate that shit so much.

Give me a shot at admin, or dont. To me really it doesnt matter much, ill be playing untill the servers are complete dead. But crpg does need active admins, so please do admin someone.


Also Chamber of QQ? Saddest.

Well then I would recommend if you actually want to put yourself forward to become an admin, you make a proper thread. One that doesn't mention your negative feelings towards a particular clan but instead focuses on the matureness, experience and fairness you would bring to the admin team, then maybe you would get taken more seriously by the guys who have the power to make those decisions?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 29, 2015, 04:38:18 pm
Well then I would recommend if you actually want to put yourself forward to become an admin, you make a proper thread. One that doesn't mention your negative feelings towards a particular clan but instead focuses on the matureness, experience and fairness you would bring to the admin team, then maybe you would get taken more seriously by the guys who have the power to make those decisions?

Well i could lie and hide all bias, etc proper politician stuff or i'll just act like i actually am, and just let whoever actually has the power decide if im fit. I dont care much personally becoming admin, but i do want some moderation on the servers, and when none apply i will, shitty application yes but also the only. I guess being the veteran i am, i hope that they realise i dont want to kill the game, and i do love many krems players in a nostalgic way. I just want to be able to play the game without having people force me out of it because they are breaking the rules with no punishment.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Micah on April 29, 2015, 04:41:43 pm
Not saying i would treat krems unfairly, but you really cant be surprised that krems would be the most targetted since their whole enjoyment in the game is generally based on making others watch them have their own sort of fun.
Already this indifferentiated and prejudging attitude against a clan, a view that fails to distiguish the phenomenon, which is community wide, and the Krems clan ... Already this group convicting mindset, aparently unable to distinguish an individual act from a community context ... this already throws you way out of my candidate list .... and places you far off any responsible group of people with a just and fair goal and pretty close to the dangerous type of people who i'd prefer to not see near to a responsible position, to deciding over people.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Molly on April 29, 2015, 04:42:36 pm
If you actually start banning for bro-coding, that has some serious forum entertainment value:

Whole bunch of Eques, Merc and Barabe would be gone day one too. That would make for some interesting drama threads...

Have my support for application!
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 29, 2015, 04:50:11 pm
Already this indifferentiated and prejudging attitude against a clan, a view that fails to distiguish the phenomenon, which is community wide, and the Krems clan ... Already this group convicting mindset, aparently unable to distinguish an individual act from a community context ... this already throws you way out of my candidate list .... and places you far off any responsible group of people with a just and fair goal and pretty close to the dangerous type of people who i'd prefer to not let near to a responsible position, to deciding over people.

Not saying i would treat skinheads unfairly, but you really cant be surprised that skinheads would be the most targetted since their whole enjoyment in life is generally based on beatin the shit out others for their own enjoyment.

Still sounds as unjust? (kek)

I get your point fully, and i do know im not well suited for all teh power taking into consideration all the shit i type on the forums. If no proper people make applications though, and the game needs admins, is it too much to as for atleast a trial?

If you actually start banning for bro-coding, that has some serious forum entertainment value:

Whole bunch of Eques, Merc and Barabe would be gone day one too. That would make for some interesting drama threads...

Have my support for application!

Believe me, brocoding is something i deeply despise. The days of barabe being Horse archers, brocoding across teams feeding eachother valour then when theres no other ranged and one of them is the last they just ignore eachother and kept going untill the end of the round... Never have i been so mad at something in crpg and (surprise) no admins were there, this was when the thought first popped up in my head of applying to admin.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Micah on April 29, 2015, 05:05:11 pm
Still sounds as unjust? (kek)
Yes it does ... because its ignoring (as in: not attempting  to understand) individual stories ... skinheads is a medial enemy image; the word should not be used when seriously trying to judge over humans.
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I get your point fully, and i do know im not well suited for all teh power taking into consideration all the shit i type on the forums. If no proper people make applications though, and the game needs admins, is it too much to as for atleast a trial?
I admit that my conditions are quite tough and few, if any, people would really pass my tests(would i pass myself?). And i know that people may grow with their responsibility, but they can also fall and can also become a threat and power-abusing retards; and its better to be able to judge before and not after an accidential hire.

What i would suggest to you, if you really want to become responsible, is to act responsible and not by leaning on spokesmen and not by trying to exploit opinion-making incidents and act on mass opinions. This only puts a bad light on yourself and your attempt ... Sensible and logical argumentation and good language usage on critical and hard matters - not the easy grab; being helpfull to people and growing on a positive basis ... against hate and sometimes against the stream is what shows the responsibility in a charracter ...
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: F i n on April 29, 2015, 05:08:23 pm
Your campaign is pathetic.

Since punishing ppl is your definition of not being biased (instead of treating everyone the same), I'm gonna be the most strict and unforgiving admin from now on.


According to the rules:

Brocoding = Ban 

Teamattacks, even the ones that are fun motivated = ban.

Spamming voicecommands = ban 

Delaying a round = ban

Any kind of insults = ban

And if anyone dares to grant duels or hug someone = ban.

Minimal ban duration 5 hours,

Max ban duration: infinite.



Enjoy.


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Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Micah on April 29, 2015, 05:11:47 pm
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I TK you for that! :evil:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 05:12:14 pm
Your campaign is pathetic.

Since punishing ppl is your definition of not being biased (instead of treating everyone the same), I'm gonna be the most strict and unforgiving admin from now on.


According to the rules:

Brocoding = Ban 

Teamattacks, even the ones that are fun motivated = ban.

Spamming voicecommands = ban 

Delaying a round = ban

Any kind of insults = ban

And if anyone dares to grant duels or hug someone = ban.

Being Krems = Permaban

Minimal ban duration 5 hours,

Max ban duration: infinite.



Enjoy.


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ftfy  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: F i n on April 29, 2015, 05:13:23 pm
No. everyone has a fair chance of enjoying the game, by deleting all kinds of human interaction.

This is war.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Kenda on April 29, 2015, 05:14:44 pm
Already this indifferentiated and prejudging attitude against a clan, a view that fails to distiguish the phenomenon, which is community wide, and the Krems clan ... Already this group convicting mindset, aparently unable to distinguish an individual act from a community context ... this already throws you way out of my candidate list .... and places you far off any responsible group of people with a just and fair goal and pretty close to the dangerous type of people who i'd prefer to not see near to a responsible position, to deciding over people.
Please, he's obviously saying Kremz as a way to explain who the biggest part of people behaving this way are. We call Kapikulu teamkillers and Vanguard or Mercs tryhards yet its not true for every member in the clan, its simply the easiest way to group up the majority of people behaving in a certain way.

If you don't behave like the Kremz Gravoth describes then just ignore it, don't take it to heart. He could absolutely have written every name of every Kremz ever behaving this way but as you may understand this is a much easier way.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: F i n on April 29, 2015, 05:17:24 pm
If you don't behave like the Kremz Gravoth describes then just ignore it, don't take it to heart. He could absolutely have written every name of every Kremz ever behaving this way but as you may understand this is a much easier way.

which is a better sounding "do what i want, or get banned"
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: pepejul on April 29, 2015, 05:18:29 pm
FIN IS ANGRY ! HE BENNED SERVERS !!!
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 29, 2015, 05:19:33 pm
Your campaign is pathetic.

Since punishing ppl is your definition of not being biased (instead of treating everyone the same), I'm gonna be the most strict and unforgiving admin from now on.


According to the rules:

Brocoding = Ban 

Teamattacks, even the ones that are fun motivated = ban.

Spamming voicecommands = ban 

Delaying a round = ban

Any kind of insults = ban

And if anyone dares to grant duels or hug someone = ban.

Minimal ban duration 5 hours,

Max ban duration: infinite.



Enjoy.


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So rude for an admin, and a krems.

The rules are very oldschool and im not even sure who came up with most of them to beign with, i mean min ban duration 5hours, and bans for insults? I like the rule of Common sense, as ive pushed before. Allthoug that one is hard to pin point what it actually means.

Also, go ahead and do enforce them if you wish, i can stop cussing in chat, can you stop delaying, brocoding, teamhitting etc? Does QQV's "FUCK YOU" mean i will get banned? I encourage you to actaully, and start playing more ya dingus.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Micah on April 29, 2015, 05:23:29 pm
Please, he's obviously saying Kremz as a way to explain who the biggest part of people behaving this way are. We call Kapikulu teamkillers and Vanguard or Mercs tryhards yet its not true for every member in the clan, its simply the easiest way to group up the majority of people behaving in a certain way.

If you don't behave like the Kremz Gravoth describes then just ignore it, don't take it to heart. He could absolutely have written every name of every Kremz ever behaving this way but as you may understand this is a much easier way.
Thats a problem of his language usage and formulation, not mine ... its not good to leave alot of space for interpretation if you mean something  ... since he didnt, it propably was not very important for him if people project on the Krems clan or the Krems phenomenon ... not my problem
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: F i n on April 29, 2015, 05:24:39 pm
So rude for an admin, and a krems.

The rules are very oldschool and im not even sure who came up with most of them to beign with, i mean min ban duration 5hours, and bans for insults? I like the rule of Common sense, as ive pushed before. Allthoug that one is hard to pin point what it actually means.

Also, go ahead and do enforce them if you wish, i can stop cussing in chat, can you stop delaying, brocoding, teamhitting etc? Does QQV's "FUCK YOU" mean i will get banned? I encourage you to actaully, and start playing more ya dingus.

funny, you're talking about common sense.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 29, 2015, 05:25:10 pm
Thats a problem of his language usage and formulation, not mine ... its not good to leave alot of space for interpretation if you mean something  ... since he didnt, it propably was not very important for him if people project on the Krems clan or the Krems phenomenon ... not my problem

I never was much for political correctness. Sweden does it enough already.

funny, you're talking about common sense.

Nice dude, im a complete nutcase haha. Wow!

Im surprised heskey didnt get that one before you, he's usually the one to pop the burns.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Kenda on April 29, 2015, 05:26:20 pm
which is a better sounding "do what i want, or get banned"
Your interpretation of Gravoths will is obviously really exaggerated, he said he'll be fair, give warnings and exact justice according to what's appropriate.

The situation will ofcourse be analyzed and dealt with accordingly, I teamhit occasionally after rounds are over or when its like 20-1 and close to over (only on clanmates tho), banning for something like that or similar stuff will ofcourse be ignored.

It's when things become so problematic that they create a negative effect on everyone who's not in on it and who may want to take the game/round more seriously.

Edit: Except for reading all his posts on the thread and deducing from that I have also known him for a long time and I know even without him writing what his agenda would be, that he would be a fair admin. So it might be hard for me to put myself in your shoes of understanding what he wants to do.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Akronus97 on April 29, 2015, 05:34:36 pm
Just get another admin and see if he is good or not......Even if FIn did a great job (not saying he doesnt) a second one is necessary, considering that he is very inactive. Try Heskeytime or anyone else! Just anyone who seems to be somehow relieable. We discuss all the time about some theories, time to see how it works practically. If it doesnt work you can still remove all rights of those additional "test admins".

Apart from that, being able to call an admin from eu7 might not be enough, thats why we need eu1 and eu2 admins
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on April 29, 2015, 05:46:01 pm
Try Heskeytime or anyone else!

Heskey doesn't cRPG anymore afaik.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Akronus97 on April 29, 2015, 05:48:45 pm
Heskey doesn't cRPG anymore afaik.

Don't care, just try someone
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: ecorcheur_brokar on April 29, 2015, 05:55:55 pm
Your campaign is pathetic.

Since punishing ppl is your definition of not being biased (instead of treating everyone the same), I'm gonna be the most strict and unforgiving admin from now on.


According to the rules:

Brocoding = Ban 

Teamattacks, even the ones that are fun motivated = ban.

Spamming voicecommands = ban 

Delaying a round = ban

Any kind of insults = ban

And if anyone dares to grant duels or hug someone = ban.

Minimal ban duration 5 hours,

Max ban duration: infinite.



Enjoy.


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Hehehe this gonna be good! sharia ftw!

This thread has become better than GoT!  Tommen turning into Joeffrey and shit! I still support Stannis Gravotheon for the throne tho. "Sun cast your light upon us, as crpg is dark and full of trolling."
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Micah on April 29, 2015, 06:23:44 pm
Fuck you Fin  :mad:
I didnt even get to TK you before the ban ... for who knows how long   :evil:

All your fault Gravoth, btw  :(
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: darmaster on April 29, 2015, 06:50:18 pm
Your campaign is pathetic.

Since punishing ppl is your definition of not being biased (instead of treating everyone the same), I'm gonna be the most strict and unforgiving admin from now on.


According to the rules:

Brocoding = Ban 

Teamattacks, even the ones that are fun motivated = ban.

Spamming voicecommands = ban 

Delaying a round = ban

Any kind of insults = ban

And if anyone dares to grant duels or hug someone = ban.

Minimal ban duration 5 hours,

Max ban duration: infinite.



Enjoy.


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Apart from minum 5 hours ban am I the only one who doesn't see problems in here?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 06:52:51 pm
Fuck you Fin  :mad:
I didnt even get to TK you before the ban ... for who knows how long   :evil:

All your fault Gravoth, btw  :(

Why didn't you write a big qq post  in ban section saying how fin is unfair shit admin cunt like oberyn did the other night when fin banned him? Oh yea, I forgot you're a normal guy and not some silly pathetic rage nerd pro serious internet tough guy wannabe cunt, silly me.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Akronus97 on April 29, 2015, 07:01:31 pm
Why didn't you write a big qq post  in ban section saying how fin is unfair shit admin cunt like oberyn did the other night when fin banned him? Oh yea, I forgot you're a normal guy and not some silly pathetic rage nerd pro serious internet tough guy wannabe cunt, silly me.

That's rubbish. Just because you care about playing or defending your actions does not necessarily mean that you are pathetic. You should maybe start to distinguish between annoying people who are mad by everything, people like you who dont care at all and those people who just want to play and don't like being banned for a reason they don't agree with when they just want to play after a day of work or whatever. I don't say Oberyn doesn't belong to the first group, I just can't judge because I don't know him well enough. Also, he could be someone of the third group as well..........(COULD!)
Also, it depends on the question whether the ban itself was justified or not.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Nirvana on April 29, 2015, 07:04:10 pm
Your campaign is pathetic.

Since punishing ppl is your definition of not being biased (instead of treating everyone the same), I'm gonna be the most strict and unforgiving admin from now on.


According to the rules:

Brocoding = Ban 

Teamattacks, even the ones that are fun motivated = ban.


Spamming voicecommands = ban 

Delaying a round = ban

Any kind of insults = ban

And if anyone dares to grant duels or hug someone = ban.

Minimal ban duration 5 hours,

Max ban duration: infinite.



Enjoy.


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Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 29, 2015, 07:08:47 pm
Why didn't you write a big qq post  in ban section saying how fin is unfair shit admin cunt like oberyn did the other night when fin banned him? Oh yea, I forgot you're a normal guy and not some silly pathetic rage nerd pro serious internet tough guy wannabe cunt, silly me.

And you cant in anyway see the reasoning in his actions, and why he would feel like he was treated unfairly? Actually why am i even bothering.. You do realise that messages like yours just puts on the same level as Oberyn? It's pretty douchey.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: darmaster on April 29, 2015, 07:09:10 pm
That's rubbish. Just because you care about playing or defending your actions does not necessarily mean that you are pathetic. You should maybe start to distinguish between annoying people who are mad by everything, people like you who dont care at all and those people who just want to play and don't like being banned for a reason they don't agree with when they just want to play after a day of work or whatever. I don't say Oberyn doesn't belong to the first group, I just can't judge because I don't know him well enough. Also, he could be someone of the third group as well..........(COULD!)
Also, it depends on the question whether the ban itself was justified or not.

you're asking them not see the world as black or white, that's a lot for them mr tryhard
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 07:16:33 pm
And you cant in anyway see the reasoning in his actions, and why he would feel like he was treated unfairly? Actually why am i even bothering.. You do realise that messages like yours just puts on the same level as Oberyn? It's pretty douchey.

He team killed me on purpose totally unprovoked, so no I can't see how he thought he was treated unfairly. Then he came to forums and insulted fin, for no reason other than butthurt rage.he was totally in the wrong yet you are trying to shield him. If he would have done that to a member of vanguards and been banned nobody would have stuck up for him, I guess cuz I'm Krems its OK for people I don't know to tk me, nice biased logic. A great admin u will be....
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Oberyn on April 29, 2015, 07:26:52 pm
Mod is ded. Congrats, you've managed to make EU servers more fucktardedly full of narcissistic idiots who believe the game revolves around their drunken shit fits than even NA. I didn't think it would ever be possible, NA had such a massive headstart with it's super individualistic culture, but you did it! Champagne all around. (PS sorry for the bad wurds Fin, hurting your poor delicate krems sensibilities, truly you must never hear or see anything similar from your butt buddies).

There's been a lot of talk about two differing "playstyles" in this thread. Now think really really hard, what sort of "playstyle" do you think is more addapted to a teambased objective game where your clan members are merely a fraction of a team? I would have no issue with krems playing the way they do on something like GTA V, or Persistent World, or any other number of sandbox multiplayer type games. cRPG is not a fucking sandbox. Attempting to turn it into a sandbox is merely trolling the rest of the server, as retards like zottlmarsh point out. I mean, they're not even trying to hide that their primary purpose is to shit all over the game and others playing it. That is what is "fun" to them. Again, they could easily go to EU3 or deserted servers if their fake ass "friendship foreeeeverrr" bullshit was anything but an excuse. The way they truly get their giggles is by ruining the game for all the "tryhards", as they call them, i.e people actually playing the fucking game and not some sort of meta-trolling pseudo-game that consists of deliberately skirting and stretching the rules to their breaking point because it makes the morons in your TS giggle like 10 year olds saying the word vagina.

If Fin was equally lenient to everyone else as to krems, then he would be doubly fucking useless as an admin. Truth is his "leniency" is much more lenient when it comes to his own clanmates, only a disengenuous moron who has never been on the server when krems are out in full trolling force would say otherwise. The reason I only got an hour temp ban is because Fin had stretched the rules so extremely for his clan members that the hypocrisy of a longer ban would've been too much even for him. If I had done those tk's divorced of the context of krems shitting up the server, I would've gotten much longer ban, possibly even essay ban.

Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: F i n on April 29, 2015, 07:37:41 pm
Those feels.

Shut up or i'll stab your face with my big ass dick.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 07:38:13 pm
And the award for the least sincere apology of the week go's to......

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Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 29, 2015, 07:41:33 pm
He team killed me on purpose totally unprovoked, so no I can't see how he thought he was treated unfairly. Then he came to forums and insulted fin, for no reason other than butthurt rage.he was totally in the wrong yet you are trying to shield him. If he would have done that to a member of vanguards and been banned nobody would have stuck up for him, I guess cuz I'm Krems its OK for people I don't know to tk me, nice biased logic. A great admin u will be....

Okay ill say it again, while im not shielding oberyn really, its more that after oberyn was banned, another krems would go on teamkilling untill he had -50 score and -3 kills. Did he get banned? No.

And as for unprovoked, if its not unprovoked how come on TS the guys i were playing with were getting so frustrated that they were borderline going on a krems teamkill train aswell? Unprovoked...



And big + to Fin for doing work today (nice mutes on Arthur dude, i wouldnt have blamed you if you b& him), allthough some decisions were questionable, i still like seeing consequences to brocoding.
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Post by: Oberyn on April 29, 2015, 07:45:03 pm
I literally tk'd you and two others in game and the only thing you could muster is an hour long ban. If I logged in right now and there happened to be an admin on server, and I were to tk him and two other random people, what would be the result? Fuck you and your bullshit "leniency". Your judging metric is basically how retarded your clanmates are acting in a given moment.
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Post by: F i n on April 29, 2015, 07:47:44 pm
i still like seeing consequences to brocoding.

you should talk to strudog about that part.
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Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 29, 2015, 07:50:01 pm
you should talk to strudog about that part.

I wish i couldve heard his reactions, haha..
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Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 07:50:33 pm
Okay ill say it again, while im not shielding oberyn really, its more that after oberyn was banned, another krems would go on teamkilling untill he had -50 score and -3 kills. Did he get banned? No.

And as for unprovoked, if its not unprovoked how come on TS the guys i were playing with were getting so frustrated that they were borderline going on a krems teamkill train aswell? Unprovoked...

Krems were only killing eachother though, I understand that can be harmful to the team. But for the individual being attacked there is a big difference when you are teamattacked by one of your mates or a complete stranger, thats just basic common sense.

As for other guys in your ts getting mad, well loads of people get mad playing this game for many different reasons, I personally didn't attack anyone on your clan and neither was I attacked by them, so I wasn't aware of any problem. If one of my clanmates teamhit them, well then they should have made a ban request and you (as a potential admin candidate) should have told them to folow the correct procedure instead of trying to issue their own form of rough justice.

I mean if you are basically saying that if someone annoys you then you should just tk them, well then why the hell do we need admins?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Perverz on April 29, 2015, 07:54:10 pm
Believe me, brocoding is something i deeply despise. The days of barabe being Horse archers, brocoding across teams feeding eachother valour then when theres no other ranged and one of them is the last they just ignore eachother and kept going untill the end of the round... Never have i been so mad at something in crpg and (surprise) no admins were there, this was when the thought first popped up in my head of applying to admin.

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Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 29, 2015, 07:55:06 pm
Krems were only killing eachother though, there is a big difference when you are teamattacked by one of your mates or a complete stranger, thats just basic common sense.

As for other guys in your ts getting mad, well loads of people get mad playing this game for many different reasons, I personally didn't attack anyone on your clan and neither was I attacked by them. If one of my clanmates teamhit them, well then they should have made a ban request and you (as a potential admin candidate) should have told them to do that instead of issuing their own rough justice.

Im pretty sure Ouj said that he was teamhit by the same guy that had -48 score.

And then teamkilling to the point where your team loses because of it, in the start of the round etc, it does affect more people than just krems. And ive heard people get mad about different things, but never to the point of wanting to teamkill. They never went so far as to TK, but being pushed to that point shouldnt be happening.


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If i remember correctly you had no part in those horribru brocoding days, so dont take any credit. The spooky part is that a byzantium left to join barbies brocoding, i thought we raised all our members to hate eachother on the battlefield...
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Post by: zottlmarsch on April 29, 2015, 08:00:01 pm
Im pretty sure Ouj said that he was teamhit by the same guy that had -48 score.

Hmmm, I wonder who that could have been???

[cough cough] (http://forum.melee.org/index.php?action=profile;u=294)
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Perverz on April 29, 2015, 08:07:51 pm
If i remember correctly you had no part in those horribru brocoding days, so dont take any credit. The spooky part is that a byzantium left to join barbies brocoding, i thought we raised all our members to hate eachother on the battlefield...

i was there ;)
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 29, 2015, 08:11:52 pm
i was there ;)

I curse thee with liquid diarrhea at the most unfitting moment.
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Post by: Akronus97 on April 29, 2015, 08:27:11 pm
I curse thee with liquid diarrhea at the most unfitting moment.

We all did that with Perv in Barabe already, it does not work.....

Also, I have to say it was pretty awesome seeing Zero_Sat and Homersexual raping you as HA on the battlefield :D
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: pepejul on April 29, 2015, 09:00:46 pm
Why don't you talk about love instead of this ?

DOES FIN DESERVE LOVE ? YES OR NOT ?

I SAY YES !
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Micah on April 29, 2015, 09:26:57 pm
Why don't you talk about love instead of this ?

DOES FIN DESERVE LOVE ? YES OR NOT ?

I SAY YES !
LOVE?! SURE! I just fapped to your avatar ... did you feel something ?

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Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: darmaster on April 29, 2015, 09:44:43 pm
Ughh
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Post by: Micah on April 29, 2015, 09:47:19 pm
 :oops:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Akronus97 on April 29, 2015, 10:05:22 pm
If the topic of this thread goes into this ceratin direction one might consider renaming the thread^^
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Post by: pepejul on April 29, 2015, 10:13:57 pm
I felt your love in my eyes...
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Post by: Panos_ on April 30, 2015, 09:22:59 am
This community needs more players like the Krems, and less GTX`s, one is enough.
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Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 30, 2015, 02:06:38 pm
This community needs more players like the Krems, and less GTX`s, one is enough.

I'd say the opposite, but i guess people enjoy different things. Personally if i was to go enjoy what krems are doing, i would do it in a game meant for such interractions. (second world looks like a stupid amount of fun)

I find all players to have a certain charm though, and i have a fetish for the ragey ones.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Akronus97 on April 30, 2015, 03:01:50 pm
I'd say the opposite, but i guess people enjoy different things. Personally if i was to go enjoy what krems are doing, i would do it in a game meant for such interractions. (second world looks like a stupid amount of fun)

I find all players to have a certain charm though, and i have a fetish for the ragey ones.

Good to know....I will never rage again when Gravoth is on server.....
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Post by: Gnjus on April 30, 2015, 03:35:44 pm
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Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 30, 2015, 03:38:21 pm
I know you'd say the opposite, but you have to expect the equally large number of players who dislike GTX-type of players more than Krems-type of players to be concerned by an admin application made by you.

You don't consider yourself a tryhard, but you are very much in the camp of 'use every advantage', 'play for kills' or simply following the current EU1 meta with a cookie-cutter archer/2h hybrid to irritate from a distance but retain lethality in melee. You may not kick and scream every time you die like the most tryhardish, but you do revel in the mentality they bring. I even recall you saying on the designed GTX hate thread that GTX disconnecting when he's going to die in EU1 is perfectly understandable if he's going to be killed by more than one opponent since he'd consider it an unfair fight and so deny them a kill they wouldn't otherwise be worthy of, it's statements like that which put you in the 'tryhard' category. It's a very elitist mentality.

An 'I hate Krems' platform may win you the vote for admin, but the people voting might get more than they bargained for in an admin with such high expectations, taking the game so seriously, and judging server interaction against a very polarized view on what's fun and what isnt. Meanwhile you love exactly the kind of toxic crpg asshole that Fin featured in his cRPG hymn.

Well you're picture of a "tryhard" is clearly way different than mine. And i cant blame you for not knowing the builds ive played in throughout crpg. But let me elighten you, As for the "every advantage" i simply make use of most mechanics, i wouldnt really put this in the tryhard category, its just simply playing the game. Im not a tryhard for using the nudge am i? Or the roll? I dunno maybe there are some things i do use that i havent considered..

As for the 2h plate archer hybred being meta (what?) and cookie cutter build, hell this aint even viable by most peoples standards, this is a troll build by most tbh. Tryharding wouldnt be hybriding really, that would be going for a pure archer or pure 2h build, because if you combine both you will be slightly lacking in both (lacking a lot with the build i did).

And before this i have played either very strength heavy or agi heavy builds, my main has for a looong time been a 15-27 build (pre- 35 patch) which was purely meant for supporting, give up damage to simply make use of stun and mobility and let others get kills. Quite opposite of tryharding, but i guess it is tryharding in a way aswell but not the generic K/D whore tryhard. I have not used a danish/german for more than an hour since the start of the game. At the very beginning of cRPG when everyone used these to be tryhards, i decided id go for a weapon which was the war spear. Pretty weak in comparison to most, i also went for a 9-30 build which was insane and silly, but fun. I still tried just like any other would when i played, but i wasnt a "tryhard". I actually havent even made a proper balance build untill just now recently.

Allthough i suppose you could say tryharding and minmaxing are different things, and tryharding is the mentality while minmaxing is building the character. Then i would fall in the tryhard category, while often being the opposite of the minmaxing part.
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Post by: F i n on April 30, 2015, 03:43:30 pm
Well you're picture of a "tryhard" is clearly way different than mine. And i cant blame you for not knowing the builds ive played in throughout crpg. But let me elighten you, As for the "every advantage" i simply make use of most mechanics, i wouldnt really put this in the tryhard category, its just simply playing the game. Im not a tryhard for using the nudge am i? Or the roll? I dunno maybe there are some things i do use that i havent considered..

As for the 2h plate archer hybred being meta (what?) and cookie cutter build, hell this aint even viable by most peoples standards, this is a troll build by most tbh. Tryharding wouldnt be hybriding really, that would be going for a pure archer or pure 2h build, because if you combine both you will be slightly lacking in both (lacking a lot with the build i did).

And before this i have played either very strength heavy or agi heavy builds, my main has for a looong time been a 15-27 build (pre- 35 patch) which was purely meant for supporting, give up damage to simply make use of stun and mobility and let others get kills. Quite opposite of tryharding, but i guess it is tryharding in a way aswell but not the generic K/D whore tryhard. I have not used a danish/german for more than an hour since the start of the game. At the very beginning of cRPG when everyone used these to be tryhards, i decided id go for a weapon which was the war spear. Pretty weak in comparison to most, i also went for a 9-30 build which was insane and silly, but fun. I still tried just like any other would when i played, but i wasnt a "tryhard". I actually havent even made a proper balance build untill just now recently.

Allthough i suppose you could say tryharding and minmaxing are different things, and tryharding is the mentality while minmaxing is building the character. Then i would fall in the tryhard category, while often being the opposite of the minmaxing part.

I think he was more like talking about your RL build.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 30, 2015, 03:53:15 pm
Lol, we are talking about builds now?... This thread went fucking downhill quickly.  :lol:

Someone should really close this shit, or is it still attempting to be used seriously as the worst admin application thread in cRPG history? it's certainly the one with the most flaming and insults!

...What a tranquil place this forum is.  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Kidduis on April 30, 2015, 04:03:42 pm
This community needs more players like the Krems, and less GTX`s, one is enough.

The GTX player makes the game intresting, the krems just make the game boring and you feel like quitting forever...

I know you'd say the opposite, but you have to expect the equally large number of players who dislike GTX-type of players more than Krems-type of players to be concerned by an admin application made by you.

You don't consider yourself a tryhard, but you are very much in the camp of 'use every advantage', 'play for kills' or simply following the current EU1 meta with a cookie-cutter archer/2h hybrid to irritate from a distance but retain lethality in melee. You may not kick and scream every time you die like the most tryhardish, but you do revel in the mentality they bring. I even recall you saying on the designed GTX hate thread that GTX disconnecting when he's going to die in EU1 is perfectly understandable if he's going to be killed by more than one opponent since he'd consider it an unfair fight and so deny them a kill they wouldn't otherwise be worthy of, it's statements like that which put you in the 'tryhard' category. It's a very elitist mentality.

An 'I hate Krems' platform may win you the vote for admin, but the people voting might get more than they bargained for in an admin with such high expectations, taking the game so seriously, and judging server interaction against a very polarized view on what's fun and what isnt. Meanwhile you love exactly the kind of toxic crpg asshole that Fin featured in his cRPG hymn.

Gravoth isnt even close to the tryhard standard Hesky, take it from a real tryhard :D .... and why do you even care about a game that you don't even play anymore?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on April 30, 2015, 04:24:13 pm
take it from a real tryhard :D

You? Nah. You are very good at this game but to be proper tryhard you have to be 100% concentrated on the game all the time, which only a few seem to manage and I suspect they suffer from some sort of autism.

Edit: Proper tryhard will never attempt frontal attack against enemy army without backup. Very rarely will place himself in a risky situation. Most of the time will steal kills from other players, attacking from sides/behind. Will be last alive most of the time. Why? Because to tryhard k/d is the only thing that matters.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 30, 2015, 04:42:11 pm
I think he was more like talking about your RL build.

Is... Is that a compliment?  :oops:

Edit: Proper tryhard will never attempt frontal attack against enemy army without backup. Very rarely will place himself in a risky situation. Most of the time will steal kills from other players, attacking from sides/behind. Will be last alive most of the time. Why? Because to tryhard k/d is the only thing that matters.

"Stealing kills" isnt really a thing, helping someone out should never be considered a bad thing. Allthough some may wait and calculate when the last hit will be, and so they hold an attack and wait. But its still helping in my eyes.
The rest is true, tryhards only take fights they know they will win, and they play a style which is least reliant on others. A style ive actually started to pick up on now, im not sure if teammates got worse recently, or if im just not as good of a teamplayer anymore, but i just cant stand my teammates so i start to do my own thing. Its actually a lot of fun, actually trying your best to do well considering all strategies available.

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You know people dont like the game when talking about core mechanics is a bad thing to them. I love discussing every part of this mod, mechanics, builds, strategies etc.. Doesnt matter what thread it is.

TBH there isnt even a lot of flaming and insulting, atleast not from my part and people saying yes to the poll. If anything, ive felt like you've been one of the more hostile people in this thread. Fin coming close but he's probably not being serious anyways... right?.. please?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: F i n on April 30, 2015, 05:05:41 pm
Is... Is that a compliment?  :oops:


Nope. I fear not. :D


Actually i'm not against you gravoth. I even +1'd the OP because i can kind of understand your point, even though i dont share it.

Whats giving me a headache though is that "your side" (not you yourself alone) seems neither able to comprehend our point nor accept it. And some were being insulting, which might explain my cold reaction to some posts.

Talking wih an open mindset about problems is one thing, naming a thread "ban all krems" and calling ppl motherfucker etc. Is another.

We're discussion two valid views on the game. One side being absolutely sure, they're doing the only right thing, is what causes problems (in forums and on the servers).

What we need is less insults, less rage, and more acceptance towards others.

And without taking any sides (because i enjoy both, going crazy and playing straight) - people who are not capable of just stand down in one or two occasions - these are the so called cancer, krems was labeled.

I know this is a game that features great egos and even encourages them, since it is skillbased. But those ppl should at somepoint be able to just chill the fuck out.
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Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 30, 2015, 05:19:45 pm
Nope. I fear not. :D


Actually i'm not against you gravoth. I even +1'd the OP because i can kind of understand your point, even though i dont share it.

Whats giving me a headache though is that "your side" (not you yourself) seems neither able to comprehend our point nor accept it. And some were being insulting, which might explain my cold reaction to some posts.

Talking wih an open mindset about problems is one thing, naming a thread "ban all krems" and calling ppl motherfucker etc. Is another.

Ill take it as a compliment anyways.

What is your point then, that i am not fit to be admin, or that our views on what krems do are not necessarily fair, and that well not only krems but trolls should have their freedoms. Sorry if im making you repeat something youve posted earlier, i just want some clarifications on it, is all.

And comeon, sure its unfitting for an admin application thread (but like i mentioned it wasnt the original serious purpose) but you cant really take insults and things too seriously here, everyone knows eachother well enough, allthough when opinions arent shared some heat may be created. And the title is obviously created for a sarcastic twist on a serious subject (AND EASY RENOWN!), its just more fun that way, and i always considered this forum to be pretty slack on the whole political correctness deal..

Whilst I was playing there was a good population on eu1 (at the expense of a dead eu2) and Krems team was winning every round which was hilarious. I also played when there were fewer people on which is how I know Gravoth is reaping the benefits of archer/2h hybrid build.

Again, if you think archer/2h plate is a tryhard build, then you must be comparing it to some really trolly builds. The bow got me maybe 10 kills out of 100, and its main purpose was shooting cav (fuck cav). It was very inaccurate and did nearly no damage to armored targets (over 40 BA).. It was pretty funny when people on teamspeak would comment on the sillyness of it though.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Kidduis on April 30, 2015, 05:19:52 pm

Whilst I was playing there was a good population on eu1 (at the expense of a dead eu2) and Krems team was winning every round which was hilarious. I also played when there were fewer people on which is how I know Gravoth is reaping the benefits of archer/2h hybrid build.


The time that i played when the krems had a stack and won fair was against a grey order stack with like 12 players i think, and the krems had like 5 and they won. I can agree that was the funniest moment when the krems were actualy playing instead of fucking around.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: pepejul on April 30, 2015, 05:31:17 pm
Krem's can play funny becauze they are best strongest hard players in crpg... only pros can have fun like this !

PRAISE FIN !
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 30, 2015, 05:47:20 pm
TBH there isnt even a lot of flaming and insulting, atleast not from my part and people saying yes to the poll. If anything, ive felt like you've been one of the more hostile people in this thread. Fin coming close but he's probably not being serious anyways... right?.. please?

Yes, you haven't been hostile really at all in this thread however naming the Thread ''Ban all Krems'' was of course going to be met with fierce opposition and anger by us Krems guys. I'm sure you would have been aware of that. If you read through its guys speaking on your side/behalf (especially darmaster) who start with the name calling stuff (Krems are Braindead, Immature, retards, Bunch of kids, Cancer etc) not us. If you look at the first few posts by us, they are quite light hearted until we start getting called these things, then of course we react in a negative way.

I don't even think i've been that hostile though, except when trying to provoke Oberyn. But thats just because I love reading his rage posts so much.  8-)
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Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 30, 2015, 06:23:31 pm
Don't think that's necessarily a tryhard build at all, and my last post was just mentioning it again to prove i'd been playing more recently since i'd never seen you use that build when I played before.

It's an effective build on low pop though where counterstrike is more viable, takes care of/deters pesky cav delayers or ranged kiters. There was a period tho where servers had very low population and everyone simultaneously made a ranged hybrid, made the game very... different. It's not like that now though.

I thought it would be better aswell, but more infantry is always better than having ranged, even pure ranged. But i was so damn pissed off at my teammates never wanting to fight anything so i made the most solo oriented build i could come up with. Fun, but lost me more rounds than it won.
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Post by: Thomek on April 30, 2015, 06:40:27 pm
It's not Either you're a GTX tryhard Or a full on trolling Krems.

Most players are in between, who don't mind a bit of fun, but also keeps an eye on the scoreboard. The problem here, like it seems to me, is that the Krems part is out of balance.

So, we are not looking at full on nazi style moderating of the servers, just knowing when enough if enough. One thing is super late night trolling, another is ruining server prime time. That has to end. Call it griefing, give them warnings, and if they choose not to heed it, hit them with the ban hammer.

So let's stop painting all this black and white. I hope Gravoth, Saxon or both will get admin soon ;)
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Kenda on April 30, 2015, 08:05:27 pm
It's not Either you're a GTX tryhard Or a full on trolling Krems.

Most players are in between, who don't mind a bit of fun, but also keeps an eye on the scoreboard. The problem here, like it seems to me, is that the Krems part is out of balance.

So, we are not looking at full on nazi style moderating of the servers, just knowing when enough if enough. One thing is super late night trolling, another is ruining server prime time. That has to end. Call it griefing, give them warnings, and if they choose not to heed it, hit them with the ban hammer.

So let's stop painting all this black and white. I hope Gravoth, Saxon or both will get admin soon ;)

I love this guy.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Austrian on April 30, 2015, 08:08:00 pm
It's not Either you're a GTX tryhard Or a full on trolling Krems.

Most players are in between, who don't mind a bit of fun, but also keeps an eye on the scoreboard. The problem here, like it seems to me, is that the Krems part is out of balance.

So, we are not looking at full on nazi style moderating of the servers, just knowing when enough if enough. One thing is super late night trolling, another is ruining server prime time. That has to end. Call it griefing, give them warnings, and if they choose not to heed it, hit them with the ban hammer.

So let's stop painting all this black and white. I hope Gravoth, Saxon, Austri or all of them will get admin soon ;)
Corrected  :oops:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Micah on April 30, 2015, 08:33:08 pm
So let's stop painting all this black and white. I hope Gravoth, Saxon or both will get admin soon ;)
I like Saxon .. but not current one on steroids or so, while in some strange bodybuilding phase ... he seemed usually chill and had his own humor, but atm he tends to flame and project a tat to much for my taste ... thats my subjective view and perception ofc, maybe others see it otherwise :3
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Post by: Akronus97 on April 30, 2015, 08:52:18 pm
Get more Barabe admins, most responsible players ever^^ (Actually we got a few nice guys :D )
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Post by: Micah on April 30, 2015, 08:58:18 pm
Regarding definitions of "Tryhards" ... My personal indicator for a tryhard is the guy that starts to armor up when all others on a low pop server use low tier gear and play not so serious .. just to have said that :3
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Post by: Akronus97 on April 30, 2015, 09:22:12 pm
Regarding definitions of "Tryhards" ... My personal indicator for a tryhard is the guy that starts to armor up when all others on a low pop server use low tier gear and play not so serious .. just to have said that :3

I think you cannot say it like that. Light gear makes you faster, less tanky, but you can still be very effective. I played with low and very heavy gear - at the end there is no big difference of score or whatever, just look at LiveYourLife for example
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Post by: zottlmarsch on April 30, 2015, 09:34:13 pm
Regarding definitions of "Tryhards" ... My personal indicator for a tryhard is the guy that starts to armor up when all others on a low pop server use low tier gear and play not so serious .. just to have said that :3

No, Tryhard = Anyone who doesn't have Lederhosen in their inventory.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Casul on April 30, 2015, 09:41:51 pm
No, Tryhard = Anyone who doesn't have Lederhosen in their inventory.

+3*
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Micah on April 30, 2015, 09:43:11 pm
I think you cannot say it like that. Light gear makes you faster, less tanky, but you can still be very effective. I played with low and very heavy gear - at the end there is no big difference of score or whatever, just look at LiveYourLife for example
Actually ... I dont agree ... maybe with polearms you get along better in low armor, but still - especially after speed and agi changes in recent patches plus the animation changes (see 2h) - I feel that combat became alot STR and heavy gear biased
 ... Plus the current effectivity of ranged classes and throwing makes fighting in low armor much inferior compared to heavy gear. Particularly in combination with STR builds ...

There where times when it was possible to play the way you discribe it - I did play like this almost exclusively, yet that was ages ago - and also, you are a quite strong player, which not everyone can say - but to claim this for current average gameplay, i find pretty dubious at the least :3
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Akronus97 on April 30, 2015, 09:59:47 pm
You also play with light gear and you are still good.
Probably you cannot apply this to everyone, still I am just talking about the theoretical possibility (as you said, might be dubious in practice)
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Chasey on April 30, 2015, 10:04:22 pm
Edit: Proper tryhard will never attempt frontal attack against enemy army without backup. Very rarely will place himself in a risky situation. Most of the time will steal kills from other players, attacking from sides/behind. Will be last alive most of the time. Why? Because to tryhard k/d is the only thing that matters.

Shiiiiiiet  :cry:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on April 30, 2015, 10:16:47 pm
I like Saxon .. but not current one on steroids or so, while in some strange bodybuilding phase ... he seemed usually chill and had his own humor, but atm he tends to flame and project a tat to much for my taste ... thats my subjective view and perception ofc, maybe others see it otherwise :3

He's trying to act like a part of Vanguard gang who are in war with Krems gang. Sounds strange, but that's impression I got.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Micah on April 30, 2015, 10:22:32 pm
You also play with light gear and you are still good.
Probably you cannot apply this to everyone, still I am just talking about the theoretical possibility (as you said, might be dubious in practice)
Im sorry , to again not agree  :mrgreen:
I think im shit in low gear now ... but i like the ultimate challenge. Old flaw of mine to try to do it the hardest way possible, eventhough i feel like im sucking pretty hard  :rolleyes:
But well, im also comparing to quite old times when AGI was still good ... so, it may not really be what you was referring to :3
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Micah on April 30, 2015, 10:23:24 pm
He's trying to act like a part of Vanguard gang who are in war with Krems gang. Sounds strange, but that's impression I got.
well... this again i would find pretty funny  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: darmaster on April 30, 2015, 11:02:21 pm
He's trying to act like a part of Vanguard gang who are in war with Krems gang. Sounds strange, but that's impression I got.

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Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Akronus97 on May 01, 2015, 09:02:05 am
Im sorry , to again not agree  :mrgreen:
I think im shit in low gear now ... but i like the ultimate challenge. Old flaw of mine to try to do it the hardest way possible, eventhough i feel like im sucking pretty hard  :rolleyes:
But well, im also comparing to quite old times when AGI was still good ... so, it may not really be what you was referring to :3

Well, I totally disagree on that. First, you aren't shit in low gear, be a bit more self assured :o
Also, agi is still very powerful, I see  players often enough who are strong with their agi based build. It is right that balanced and str builds offer many advantages, especially in group fights. Agi, however, is very useful in different situations (you can outrun people, you can spam and outrange more easily and so on). In the last time I see agi players trying to be in the first line of group fights. How is this supposed to work? Obviously it is also a question of experience as you said, still thinking about playing with the right tactic which is appropiated for you build might be very promising :)


Shiiiiiiet  :cry:

Come back to the game Chase, this is an order! :(
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: karasu on May 01, 2015, 11:17:54 am
I think you cannot say it like that. Light gear makes you faster, less tanky, but you can still be very effective. I played with low and very heavy gear - at the end there is no big difference of score or whatever, just look at LiveYourLife for example

You can't use Hearst as an example on this mate, since he's one of the few good players still around, that can be pretty deadly even on his most trollish/fun mode.


Corrected  :oops:

Austri bestdmin 2010 pls


He's trying to act like a part of Vanguard gang who are in war with Krems gang. Sounds strange, but that's impression I got.

Doesn't the gang definition imply that there's more than one member active? Are vanguards any active?  :o
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on May 01, 2015, 11:49:12 am
There were six of us on last night. And Hetman.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Gravoth_iii on May 01, 2015, 12:10:20 pm
Doesn't the gang definition imply that there's more than one member active? Are vanguards any active?  :o

We've always been atleast a little bit active, about the same as most clans, you wouldnt know tho. Come play more.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: karasu on May 01, 2015, 01:00:40 pm
'Twas a joke, I know vaginaguards still play the game, and I still do, but mostly on dtv, at some point you get tired of human players, and bots don't act as dicks (well some do).

Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Akronus97 on May 01, 2015, 04:28:25 pm
You can't use Hearst as an example on this mate, since he's one of the few good players still around, that can be pretty deadly even on his most trollish/fun mode.


Trolls are unpredictable....
Also, I have seen "normal" players doing well with agi builds

Just to offer my humble insight into what is possibly a misunderstanding Akronus.

Yes both light armour dedicated playstyles and heavy playstyles are good, but i'm not sure that's what Micah meant by the above original comment. More that in a small population server mucking about in light gear the guy who turns up, sees what everyone else is doing and equips their +3 set of Heraldic Transitional armour looks like they're here to win and 'tryhard'. It marks the intention, even if they suck enough to get rekt by every naked or peasant-player they then later fight.

It marks a mindset, like seeing a whole server fighting with wooden sticks and bringing a long maul and milanese plate whilst sfriending 'tehehe i'm so clevuh, if only these dumb players knew that wooden stick is not the most efficient weapon they could be using'.

I am just curious, I play with a Heavy Gotland Armor - would you define me as a tryhard? If so - would it affect my behaviour in a negative way?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: ecorcheur_brokar on May 01, 2015, 05:14:02 pm
Regarding definitions of "Tryhards" ... My personal indicator for a tryhard is the guy that starts to armor up when all others on a low pop server use low tier gear and play not so serious .. just to have said that :3
It's funny that you say so because I do the exact opposite. Heavy gear is to relax and play casually as it doesn't require too much focus and medium gear is to activate my poor tryhard mod.

And with all the nerf str has received and the complete disapearance of any true str (Even I gave up), I'm quite surprised people still find to complain about it. A lot of katana my old friend are very efficient by just waving their shit around super fast.

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Nothing to add apart that I really miss your admin activity.  :cry: And Saxon could be a great admin as he's kind of part of tryhard team but doesnt have the hatred of krems (or does he?). Or else Kreus could be a great admin too, never seen him trolling and he seems like a wise man.

Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on May 01, 2015, 06:43:24 pm
I think the general consensus is that we need a new admin or two, would it be worth creating a new thread with less hate in for new admin discussion?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Prpavi on May 01, 2015, 06:44:48 pm
Summary:

Krems retarded (that's new)
Oberyn a true poet as usuall
Leshma calling people autists (guess it takes one to know one right)
Zottksmskfuch (whatever) being the biggest fanboi over Krems #must be popular irl
Lot's of tears
Anime gifs
=
Once again this forum privides the best reading material for the shitter, you guys keep my digestion perfect for years now, thank you all!
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on May 01, 2015, 06:52:24 pm
Leshma calling people autists (guess it takes one to know one right)

Yes it does. You are the first specimen I have stumbled upon.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: karasu on May 01, 2015, 07:18:12 pm
Summary:

Krems retarded (that's new)
Oberyn a true poet as usuall
Leshma calling people autists (guess it takes one to know one right)
Zottksmskfuch (whatever) being the biggest fanboi over Krems #must be popular irl
Lot's of tears
Anime gifs
=
Once again this forum privides the best reading material for the shitter, you guys keep my digestion perfect for years now, thank you all!


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Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on May 01, 2015, 07:45:09 pm
Summary:

Krems retarded (that's new)
Oberyn a true poet as usuall
Leshma calling people autists (guess it takes one to know one right)
Zottksmskfuch (whatever) being the biggest fanboi over Krems #must be popular irl
Lot's of tears
Anime gifs
=
Once again this forum privides the best reading material for the shitter, you guys keep my digestion perfect for years now, thank you all!


Some guy who spent 117 days and made 4500 posts on some crappy game mod forum sarcastically tells me I must be popular IRL.
The irony
 :cry: ....my feelings
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Shemaforash on May 01, 2015, 08:48:25 pm

Some guy who spent 117 days and made 4500 posts on some crappy game mod forum sarcastically tells me I must be popular IRL.
Cool irony
 :cry: ....my feelings

Total Time Spent Online:80 days, 6 hours and 35 minutes.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: zottlmarsch on May 01, 2015, 08:59:07 pm
Total Time Spent Online:80 days, 6 hours and 35 minutes.


Its more about the post count, A big chunk of my online time was having forum open as a home page at work 24\7 without even browsing. But 4500 posts clearly implies active browsing as oppose to inactive browsing
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: WarLord on May 01, 2015, 09:16:36 pm
I just realized I am in a Top 10 list:


Most Time Online

Christo
    223d 2h 44m
Moncho
    206d 19h 2m
[ptx]
    173d 17h 53m
Vibe
    173d 2h 33m
cmp
    160d 18h 14m
chadz
    159d 8h 50m
Gurnisson
    153d 16h 43m
CaveSquirrel
    152d 21h 35m
Erzengel
    149d 14h 2m
WarLord
    149d 5h 24m

Really, what a waste of lifetime  :lol:

You guys still fighting in this thread? We all wasted (some more, some less) so much time in this mod/game/forum ... let's all be friends (again) :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on May 01, 2015, 09:40:58 pm
You guys still fighting in this thread? We all wasted (some more, some less) so much time in this mod/game/forum ... let's all be friends (again) :mrgreen:

Swear on me mum, if I ever encounter another cRPG player in my life I'm gonna put a fork in his eye. Swear on me mum.
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Guray on May 01, 2015, 09:57:51 pm
Make me admin and cRPG will become a peaceful place! First thing I am gonna do is make a pool in every desert map! oh and ofc ban all krems!1  I will bring cRPG to its shining days again!
Serious tho how do one applies to become an admin?  :?
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Leshma on May 01, 2015, 10:14:02 pm
Make Turk an admin and watch how they ban every Armenian from cRPG,
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Guray on May 01, 2015, 10:26:56 pm
Make Turk an admin and watch how they ban every Armenian from cRPG,
You are so funny
I could tell you how we didnt kill 1.500.000 Armenian. How its just a global advertisement but would not worth my time. Not even gonna talk back to you  :wink:
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Akronus97 on May 01, 2015, 11:27:43 pm
That on it's own doesnt make you a tryhard. If you saw people in the server with light armour and then decided to deliberately wear heavier armour than usual so that you could stomp them that would be tryhard.

Good to know, playing with my setup for ages :D (although I assume your statement is highly questionable)
Title: Re: Ban all krems!!"&"@¤
Post by: Perverz on May 02, 2015, 11:28:46 am
You wouldn't have the minerals to ban me, mate.

dont be so sure lad