You could've waited for poll results, ya know :rolleyes:
I want nuffen to stay cause he is offering me 200k for me and my clans votes.
jk i wonder how many people will believe me..
stop opening threads in your honor and deleting posts taht dont suit you.
you are getting quite desperate and pathetic.
do you feel it? its coming...
Umm what did he do?
stop opening threads in your honor and deleting posts taht dont suit you.
you are getting quite desperate and pathetic.
do you feel it? its coming...
I'm not a forum admin, I can't touch your posts.
Anyway, you look angry. But don't despair, I got the cure!
Cute kittens!
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Apparently he forgot to check the unban dates list for three days.
A travesty I'm sure.
Nuffen has 200k gold :shock:
Shouldn't c-rpg admin be like priests, live on bread and water and preach about greatness of our soul and how we shouldn't be greedy?
We need more admins like nuffen, to enforce rules and teach the little children to behave like adults
We need more admins like nuffen, to enforce rules and teach the little children to behave like adults
We need more CS cunt admins like nuffen, to enforce rules abuse position and powers, and teach the little children to behave like douchebags.
I've been attacked with disconnects, sourced from Nuffens influence, this evil cannot continue, I'll not be playing until this issue is resolved.
Yesterday I totally kicked 3 guards arses including Tenne and Nuff, then as soon as I finished teabagging them I got the disconnect/connection lost message.
I got it too, we got something in common bro :D
Heres the thread where you can tell the world why you hate nuffen/Lilith (PS, not fasader). Why do you vote yes on removing this guys admin rights?
UPDATE: Changed the text so it was clear that you want to remove this guys admin rights.
Cute kittens won't help you Nuffen, I'm afraid.+1
Jambi: Yes, I take this serious. I will NEVER forget to unban a guy for 3 days. (all the other admins have done worse, I was for half a year the one who did all the unbanning the other admins forgot, none of them got nominated for it.)
What proof? :)
Jambi: Yes, I take this serious. I will NEVER forget to unban a guy for 3 days. (all the other admins have done worse, I was for half a year the one who did all the unbanning the other admins forgot, none of them got nominated for it.)
What proof? :)
this is not about the unban, but about the retarded reason for ban on the first place
I want to keep nuffen because he is one of the very few admins who actually admins (on the official servers). I never see anyone except him and Thomek doing anything with all the teamkillers/leechers/delayers. Too bad they're never on siege.
I accept bets, i believe no matter how many people we get to vote yes for removal, he will still get more to vote for no, but, maybe, and i HOPE for that, maybe i am wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ubQxtEukvw
Wow. TWO attention seeking threads in general discussion. What's the matter, kid, your mom didn't hug you enough?
And to forum admins: you are kidding, right? This is some sort of joke I don't get? Please tell me it isn't so, because I have seen a lot more important topics than this bull ending in Spam, and quite quickly.
Wow. TWO attention seeking threads in general discussion. What's the matter, kid, your mom didn't hug you enough?
And to forum admins: you are kidding, right? This is some sort of joke I don't get? Please tell me it isn't so, because I have seen a lot more important topics than this bull ending in Spam, and quite quickly.
"Here is the thread where Nuffen is trying to regain some popularity points from the community by acting nice and posting cute pictures" =).
It's ok Nuffen, you can still play the game even without having admin you know. In fact, you might actually be better off without your admin powers , you never know until you try .
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,13648.0.html
Yeps, thats why Nuffen is lobbying. Getting people that have no idea about whats going on, to vote NO for him.
You know... some sheeple, fall for all these cute kitty pictures. And those weak minded people will think if an Admin asks to vote no, that it is automaticly a good idea.
I want to keep nuffen because he is one of the very few admins who actually admins (on the official servers). I never see anyone except him and Thomek doing anything with all the teamkillers/leechers/delayers. Too bad they're never on siege.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ubQxtEukvw
antinuffenists de la monde, unir!
That's not good french, plz change to this :
"Antinuffenist du monde, unissez-vous!"
So you think such an important event as a vote about demoting an admin should not be open for discussion in the general c-rpg forums? Easier to remove an admin if no one got a clue whats happening, yes? I see why your against discussions when the admin in question is accused of.. banning teamwounders.
So you think such an important event as a vote about demoting an admin should not be open for discussion in the general c-rpg forums? Easier to remove an admin if no one got a clue whats happening, yes? I see why your against discussions when the admin in question is accused of.. banning teamwounders.Yeah, the world is gonna shake, the whole community is going to be affected and cRPG is never going to be the same when they take away your admin rights. Boofuckinghoo.
Wasn't there some rule about abusing admin being only allowed to make one POST in his own defense, as oppose opening and spamming two separate topics? I am sure I remembered wrong, and that no one is "bending" the rules here...
Damn im agreeing with Ujin.... i must be getting a cold or something :-)
Anyways
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,13770.0.html Vote Yes, for Admin power removal!
That's just in the nomination thread. There were discussion threads for the previous polls as well. I'm really not sure why there need to be two, though.Shameless attention seeking, isn't it obvious?
Btw, i don't care if you lose or keep your admin power, i almost have never have to do something with any admin (i don't grief and i go away from grieffer), but we should vote for more admin not for less.
If this nomination fails again. Ide say chadz should make a rule.
If and admin has been nominated 3 times, without succes.... but still with hardcore Screenshot/youtube proof of his abuse, its an auto removal from admin powers.
It was supposed to be one about why Im an abuzer, and one about why I should stay. Sadly, the people who wants me gone breaks rules just to break them, thats why these two threads looks like the same.
Anyways, im going to stop posting here. Not going to argue with ignorance.... or read Nuffens bullshit any longer.
I want you gone. i dont break any rules. Anyone else?
Dear Jambi,
If you by any chance has hard proof that some admin is abusing his position, try get a hold of some of the higher-ups and make your case. I refuse to believe that our developer team would keep someone that is blatantly abusing his powers.
In the case of 'Nuffen Vs Unji' aka 'the case of Unji's homemade flicker-show', there is only [edit*] suggestive proof. Only some guys slashing at each others, with Unji supplementing the story.
or GTFO :)
I've been attacked with disconnects, sourced from Nuffens influence, this evil cannot continue, I'll not be playing until this issue is resolved.
Yesterday I totally kicked 3 guards arses including Tenne and Nuff, then as soon as I finished teabagging them I got the disconnect/connection lost message.
It's been happening to me since you banned me and started happening on the Pecores server first, then after my ban was over and I started playing on EU servers all was fine at first, then suddenly CONNECTION LOST.... then it happens again and again and more frequently and even more frequently when you or tenne are on the server. o_O
And because Okin said "Tenne, are you already abusing the disconnect bug?" you instantly assume that it was something to do with Nuffen & myself?
Completely brilliant, Cheers Okin, your influence is so overwhelming you can make up bugs and have people believe them at a whim, kudos to you!
You must have missed my whole thread about DTV then :P :lol: :P :lol:
Im still hoping for t1ts tbh
Im still hoping for t1ts tbh
Jambi: Yes, I take this serious. I will NEVER forget to unban a guy for 3 days. (all the other admins have done worse, I was for half a year the one who did all the unbanning the other admins forgot, none of them got nominated for it.)It's nothing to do with you forgetting to unban me. I'm confused as to why you keep trying to portray it as such. It's really pathetic. You just come across really desperate.
What proof? :)
He lies to strengthen his position after being accused of abuse, he has done with myself, and other players.
Ah, now I understand your hate, you are disappointed that Lilith is not a girl :D
I accept bets, i believe no matter how many people we get to vote yes for removal, he will still get more to vote for no, but, maybe, and i HOPE for that, maybe i am wrong.Thats why we should get to see who voted what.
So you think such an important event as a vote about demoting an admin should not be open for discussion in the general c-rpg forums? Easier to remove an admin if no one got a clue whats happening, yes? I see why your against discussions when the admin in question is accused of.. banning teamwounders.
You set the precedent, deal with it.
Dear Jambi,
If you by any chance has hard proof that some admin is abusing his position, try get a hold of some of the higher-ups and make your case. I refuse to believe that our developer team would keep someone that is blatantly abusing his powers.
In the case of 'Nuffen Vs Unji' aka 'the case of Unji's homemade flicker-show', there is only [edit*] suggestive proof. Only some guys slashing at each others, with Unji supplementing the story.
Get some real hard evidence or GTFO :)
Btw, why is the poll hidden? (usually current results are showed after the vote is sent) I've never seen an admin nomination but this is not stated in the rules :?
Btw, why is the poll hidden? (usually current results are showed after the vote is sent) I've never seen an admin nomination but this is not stated in the rules :?To make sure everyone gives his objective opinion and wont be influenced by the current results and to keep it from becoming a mess.
So nuffen can stay admin with +1 vote over the people who voted to remove... I remember how many people spoke out against nuffen back then, nuffen hadn't achieved as much support he has now, yet disturbingly he clung on by a single vote, I believe this goes further than superficial support... Further than merely VRN and Fallen and Guards voting to keep nuffen admin.. Conspiracies!
lets say everyone here is a mindless puberting nerd then
just calculate guards + vrn + fallen ( probably ) = *no* votes + some random idiots
But I hope its not like that :wink:
As much as I love how you think we Guards all stick by each other, we are not "lobbying" to keep Nuffen as admin. We accepted Nuffen on the grounds of being a good person and that the Guild believed he would make a good addition no matter his state in the player base. It was specifically stated by myself that we would completely disregard anything to do with his admin powers.
Although I know my members will be more sympathetic towards Nuffen since they know him more than most of you, the final decision down to which way to vote is left to the individual, not by the leadership forcing a save for Nuffen's powers.
Please stop dragging clans into "backing an admin" since although it is likely that the members have been asked vote one way, there is no "official clan lobby" towards keeping him.
I'm not sure if I am allowed to say this here, but in the original vote as to whether or not Nuffen should lose his admin, I voted yes to get rid of his powers. (He knows this) At this time DID have a discussion about whether or not we believed he'd abused but not a lobby.
I'm sure other clans will feel the same way since we're all intelligent people (mostly) and can make decisions ourselves without some big leader figure screaming to vote Yes, or to vote No.
P.S. I'm not defending Nuffen, i'm defending my clan!
hey tenne you missed my first sentence ? NP
8-)
How?
Fraps 24/7??? How can i anticipate the moment?
Screenshots? How can i screenshot the context, i can screenshot logs and what will it show? Nuffen banning someone and thats it, no way of knowing was it just or not....
Proof in these cases is almost impossible to obtain....
Only thing left to do is to vote
I have seen nuffen take action numerous times on both battle and siege servers, he has never targeted anyone who didnt deserve it.
Always warning ppl and being polite before kick/ban
And reading posts and stories on these forums........well you fucking deserve it, with your attitude.
Being an admin is a shitjob, hell id be one if i had the time, and if i got PAID FOR IT.
The one who throws the first stone, do you want to be an admin?
Nice, so anyone who's been treated wrongly by bad admins is now suddenly a player that lacks responsibility and consideration? You want this mod to die don't you? Because trying to alienate sections of the community through false generalisations would no doubt help in doing so.You could, for starters, read what i wrote?
If you play at all on EU_1 then you can judge me for yourself. I sometimes swear, I sometimes type things in complete caps, but I don't go around team-killing, or wounding with intent and without provocation.
The other admins aren't having problems with having to kick me or ban me all the time, why not? Because I'm not behaving in such a way deemed worthy of punishment. There's MANY other players who fit similar criteria to myself who make up a large proportion of this community, imagine how boring this place would be without us, imagine how boring cRPG would be if people like you only had other people like yourself to play with.
You could, for starters, read what i wrote?
Not like YOU really need a reason to make retarded posts :lol:
There are bajillions people applying to become admins. An admin is in no way that "valuable" to stay when there are 10x more complains about that single admin than for any other one. Even if nuffen is "innocent" and if we loose a good admin, there are plenty of people that can do the job correctly, waiting in the EU admin applications thread. So all the complains about "not enough admins" seem a bit strange to me. *ad* You can also play on the Pecores battle server which is allmost never left without at least an admin on */ad*
If you want a good admin team, getting in should be easy, and getting out even easier. Merit > connections, although (and I fully understand) in the context of a community-run mod, it is highly unlikely that people "in charge" will nominate admins without heavily valuing relationships and reputation.
Disclaimer : it may sound like I'm criticizing nuffen for being boosted as admin. It's not. Even if true, in this context it's not a problem in my opinion. However, the dev team shouldn't be blind either.
He also likes to teamwould and recklessly swing his sword.
He do his Job, and gives away bans to the people who deserve it...And to some that don't, which is why we are here right now.
And to some that don't, which is why we are here right now.
And to some that think they should get special threatment, which is why we are here right now.
What should be more important than the outcome of this vote is the fact that some (many) people are not content with nuffen's decisions. He should've changed the way he's admining after the last vote IMHO, [...]
How about all of us (many) that believes that he adminned the right way and was in majority before?
Just because a minority (trolls) believes he should change his way, does not make it right?
Give me a damn example then! I cant believe u when u just shout out this shit on the forums! EVIDENCE man, evidence!
How?
Fraps 24/7??? How can i anticipate the moment?
Screenshots? How can i screenshot the context, i can screenshot logs and what will it show? Nuffen banning someone and thats it, no way of knowing was it just or not....
Proof in these cases is almost impossible to obtain....
Only thing left to do is to vote
Vote result will say who's minority and who's not.indeed he is ( and a damn archer :( )
Regardless what happens, I'm glad that Tenne got admin. He's a really cool guy.
What i think is kidna funny is that when a dude get banned by, lets say nuffen the first thing he do is to start a damn thread!
Are we gonna make new threads when he do some good work aswell, or is he supposed to hear only shit he do?
What should be more important than the outcome of this vote is the fact that some (many) people are not content with nuffen's decisions. He should've changed the way he's admining after the last vote IMHO, but he ignored the fact that only one vote has saved him his admin title (and I don't believe in conspiracies. Manipulating a poll in SMF isn't trivial and faking a one-vote-win would be really stupid, just because it's too suspicious IMHO).
Nuffen didn't take the last nomination as a chance to learn from critics (there are also some constructive critics like "it's good he's there, but he's too harsh" etc), although about 50% of the community would like him to change.
Personally I don't have any problem with him. The reason I voted "yes" this time is that he didn't change since last time (when I voted "no").
Sorry for my confusing English, I'm a bit drunk.
The evidence is posted in the topic in the admin abooze section of the forum. I'm sorry if it's not enough for you, or if you don't believe me (i won't cry), but i truly think that he should have his powers removed , there's more than enough decent people who've posted their applications to become admins, they can easily substitute him.
Not to mention that this is the 3rst (or 4th?) time Nuffen gets voted .
@Ragnar
Read why he was nominated in the first place. Do you think this sort of incident deserves ban, without warning? And then, when he complains about this, nuffen "forgets" to unban him even after the period has expired. And let me mention that prior to complain, he didn't even bother to set unban date, so for swinging at teammate (not hitting, on this they both agree, although Skwatish's report differs very much from nuffens.) he was set for a ban for year. This is classic example of admin abusing his power only because player pissed him off. So, this is your example. Satisfied, judge? Or do you need couple of dozens witnesses to testify and recording of the incident before you believe what happened?
And how else do you defend yourself if you are unjustly banned and want to play, you make an unban thread and state the matter...
It is really easy to be a good adminHave you ever been an admin?
What i think is kidna funny is that when a dude get banned by, lets say nuffen the first thing he do is to start a damn thread!
Are we gonna make new threads when he do some good work aswell, or is he supposed to hear only shit he do? I Support Nuffen anyway, as i stated in my first post...Nuffen is a GOOD!!Admin!
Kinda Laughable!(Dunno if laughable even is a word!)
Ujin got several warnings. (c) Nuffen
Stop bullshitting already, Nuffen. I didn't get a single warning because i didn't do ANYTHING that broke the rules (name was BL_Aaron). What , now you're gonna accuse me ? Pathetic.
The Pimp guys who got banned already spoke in their defence in the unban topic/admin abooze topic.
Ok people, this is Nuffen's word over mine now basically. I give you my word that i didn't receive a single warning because i didn't go anything to get a warning in the first place. Therefore, i will be straight about it and i'll just say that Nuffen is making things up now, on the go. Just anything to make himself look good. Wow, Nuffen. You really like your admin position , do you ?
I wasnt thinking about the unban thread! I was thinking about this general discussion forum!
I just think this getting way too silly! take it as a damn man and when ur banned try get some fresh air, i believe its been a while since last time u smelled fresh air!
That's a narrow perception you have, just like Nuffens.
If I got banned for spawning and then start to hack at team-mates, cutting them to pieces and spamming the chat with dark red txt or even if I did so to one team-mate in the middle of a round when no enemies were around on purpose and then not apologise after doing it, then I'd accept the ban I was handed and sulk for a bit, but I wouldn't have grounds to make a thread.
Since in my two situations with Nuffen, one when he was as Lilith, firstly he kicked me for arguing with someone who was trolling me by insult, so in that situation one thinks, holy shit so some dude starts verbally shitting all over me and Nuffen does NOTHING, when I respond with counter-troll suddenly I'm kicked. Holy crap.
Second case, I get team-killed on purpose by a team-mate towards the end of a round, Nuffen was playing at this time. I complained in chat that I had been team-killed purposely by the player who's name is "SayAttack", some players suggested I make a poll but as the next round started I didn't want to interrupt game-play with a poll because too many people spam poll as it is.. Anyway my form of payback was to stalk this player and then to attack the enemy horse he whistled for as I started attacking the courser, the team-killer who I'd just been stalking hit me in the face with his sword taking 1/3 of my life off me. Enraged by the fact I was team-killed by this person on purpose the previous round, and then because he had the audacity to attack me again I raged. Spammed hits at his shield but I only wished to hit him back once, not to team-kill him. All the while, Nuffen was apparently watching, and eating popcorn.... When I get a hit back on this player he then attacks me back and continues to do so, to which I then retaliate and it ends up a fight to the death in which if I did not attempt to kill him, he'd kill me, (he feinted well with 1h/shield), and I'm not the best of blockers so attack was the best form of defence, before he or I (as I was almost dead) died, I got banned. BOOM.
Nuffen claims to have warned me 3 times verbally with pink text, but evidently I had not seen the warnings and was pre-occupied with trying to stay alive at the point they were given. If I had received a warning in a form of a kick which in the rules is stated as a severe warning then I would have rejoined the server and ceased the hostilities and played quietly for a night, yet I was not given that chance, and instead given the same punishment as the person who intentionally team-killed me and then team-attacked me the following round.
Actually, the _majority_ of those who bothered to contact me to give me feedback told me to be MORE strickt. Ive also started to warn a lot more (thanks to the "new" admin chat").
Murmillus prime got 3 warnings.
Ujin got several warnings.
Mizari got 2 mutes, 3-4 warnings against the group he was in (pimp), 1 TS warning and 2 direct warnings.7
Skawtish got 1 warning.
This thread was started by Nuffen. It wasnt necessary but it's there. Also I don't recall playing with you and I have a good memory and can remember about 60% of active players. You must be occasional player, why are you interested in this matter?
And where is the evidence?
How can you bring evidence in such a case? Please explain it to me.
Lol, ive been active since the early beta.....3 wipes about 1 year and 2 months or something!
think im 1 of the 40% members u cant remember!
thats ur problem...not mine!
I apologise, I thought you were the other pimp who was banned, as I only banned two persons that day. I have done nothing against you, and I have no idea why you wanted me to warn against something, as you were not muted, kicked or banned. Whats this all about?http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,13648.0.html
But you don't play on EU1 anymore, where all this happened, right?
thats ur problem...not mine!
I am claiming that you set unban date only AFTER he complained. I am sure that there are admins that would confirm that. Then, you "forget" to unban him when this date expired.
You are also claiming that 1. I didnt bother to set unban date 2. I "forgets" to unban him after this date that you claim I did not set.
No, I'm asking do you still play the mod?
You know, when I took a brake I stopped visiting forums. Dunno why someone who's inactive would discuss matters of c-rpg community.
I am claiming that you set unban date only AFTER he complained. I am sure that there are admins that would confirm that. Then, you "forget" to unban him when this date expired.
And please, stop distorting the facts.
And about the incident, version about the incident Skawtish gave was much more convincing and made much more sense. I believe HIM about what happened, not you, despite the fact that you are admin(!). And obviously, so do many people that have experience with you.
@Ragnar
Please stop trolling. You are obviously here just to support your pal, not to hear arguments.
Nuffen did the same with me.
He issued a 3 day ban, 2 days after I was banned. LOL.
He also claimed that I had the same punishment as the guy who TK'ed and TA'ed me LOL.
Yet his 3 day ban started on the day he was banned.
(...) as I only banned two persons that day (...)
PS: Its not like Im the first one who bans Murmillus prime. An example is a ban on NA for trolling.
I apologise, I thought you were the other pimp who was banned, as I only banned two persons that day. I have done nothing against you, and I have no idea why you wanted me to warn against something, as you were not muted, kicked or banned. Whats this all about?
the only teamhit I did was stopping a pimp kicking someone who was not part of the pimps.
Then you should still stop bullshitting as I did do nothing either. In fact I was gone most of the time we where playing (just came back to the PC for a few rounds) as pimps and only spoke twice and NEVER hit any teammate (on purpose. In the thick of battle it might have happend). I REALLY believe you banned the wrong pimp here (We agreed on vent that a 1-day ban on some of the pimps might have been somewhat fair, but no-one understood why I have been banned and even for 7-days).
Just check the logs and I am sure you see I did not teamkill anyone (The reason stated I was banned, but that might have just been admin lazyness) or even got a warning from you personally. If you did then you could post them here, but I am sure I never got a warning because the only teamhit I did was stopping a pimp kicking someone who was not part of the pimps.
So you did teamhit?
There is no one with the name BL_aaron on the banlist.
Too late?
Even so, for the sake of the guy's sanity, i'd recommend at the very least taking a break, if not dropping this whole shit altogether.
All i see is "BLOOO BLOOOH DERP DERP HERP DERP BLUUUHUUUHHUHUHUHHHHH :cry:"(click to show/hide)
Some insider info from when i was still admin. I would've considered myself the 2nd most active admin back then, but Nuffen was leading big time, it is almost as if he lived in that (friggin slow, uncomfortable to use) banlist. I think the amount of complains i received about my admining, relative to nuffens complaints, was in the same ratio as my activeness to his activeness.
Admins that don't receive complaints about themselves are... well, they're 90% either inactive, passive or way too soft. If you do moderate and do it actively, you DO make the occasional mistake, it is just human.
Even so, for the sake of the guy's sanity, i'd recommend at the very least taking a break, if not dropping this whole shit altogether.
nuffen killed gnjus.. fu n
All the pimps were doing the other day was teamwounding and teamkilling and creating a problem on the server!!
in my mind they deserve to be banned for a day each but i think a week is abit too long
Lol Nuffen needs a secretary to help him keep track of all these bans.
Seriously though, being an admin can be a difficult job. But a large part of it is knowing and being accepted and respected within your community. If you're not, then you can't do your job properly, no matter how well you do it. People will either troll you and force you into a rash decision forced by anger if they know they can, or if you don't know your community, you won't recognise how to distinguish different incidents. Being strict to the rules is all very well and good, but you'll piss off a lot of people, some will deserve those strict punishments, but many won't for a variety of reasons. Each incident has to be judged around the rules. Admining requires a strong level of judgement that can distiguish situation from situation because they are all different.
It's one of those things that makes admining a difficult balancing act.
Now I know Nuffen is one of the few very active admins. And perhaps has become over stretched with it all. No admin should admin every time they play or even for the majority of the time they play, no matter how much they enjoy it or whatever. And certainly the work of checking ban lists ect needs to be well managed and divided between a good few of you.
I think this case highlights more than anything, a sore lack of active admins on the EU servers.
And on top of that I think that even if the decision does keep Nuffen admining, Nuffen should take a break from it and more admins should be brought in to manage the EU servers.
derp derp herp derp herp derp blah blah dribble hurr and durr..Well, that was insightful.
Recently there have been up to 4 admins on at once.
Well, that was insightful.
Well those with working eyes but a perception shallow and blurred, that's all you'll see. I'm actually talking about these issues properly, if you fail to understand basic rationality then please gtfo.I was about to ask you not to make me laugh, but it is way too late for that now :lol:
I was about to ask you not to make me laugh, but it is way too late for that now :lol:
Guys this is not a place to have your own little war of words.
As is why I told him he's not posting within context of the thread, I still get -1'ed for being right.Actually I minused you for getting off topic/flaming :D
Actually I minused you for getting off topic/flaming :D
I don't see how his boundless derp is within the context of anything, ever :lol:
Post 202 hypocrite...that was my first post this thread...
Is this what Nuffens support boils down to? Hahaha, people dragging subjects out of context, trolling and then attacking people for trolling back, hypocritical dribbling idiots.
..that was my first post this thread...
Actually I minused you for getting off topic/flaming :D
There are bajillions people applying to become admins. An admin is in no way that "valuable" to stay when there are 10x more complains about that single admin than for any other one. Even if nuffen is "innocent" and if we loose a good admin, there are plenty of people that can do the job correctly, waiting in the EU admin applications thread. So all the complains about "not enough admins" seem a bit strange to me. *ad* You can also play on the Pecores battle server which is allmost never left without at least an admin on */ad*
If you want a good admin team, getting in should be easy, and getting out even easier. Merit > connections, although (and I fully understand) in the context of a community-run mod, it is highly unlikely that people "in charge" will nominate admins without heavily valuing relationships and reputation.
Disclaimer : it may sound like I'm criticizing nuffen for being boosted as admin. It's not. Even if true, in this context it's not a problem in my opinion. However, the dev team shouldn't be blind either.
Murmillus. Quiet down. If you ever want anyone to take you seriously, you need to fight battles when there are some, not attack mindlessly. You've had your say plenty of times. Just let people comment as they please, you don't have to take everything to such heart. The more you try and argue, the more they will argue back. Thus, a never ending circle.
So leave it. Equally to the others, do the same.
And yes. To the people pointlessly bickering. Comment on Kafein's and my earlier posts on admining. Something constructive for a change.
My constructive posts are attacked by hordes of wild trolls.
My constructive posts are attacked by hordes of wild trolls.
My constructive posts are attacked by hordes of wild trolls.A WILD TROLL APPEARS!
Yeah guys just show me how much like Nuffen you can get! Push away half the community while you're at it, when you're all done you'll truly see how ugly each one of you are, I mean when you get a room of arseholes clearly there aren't going to be many good ideas coming out of that room. :)Teehee, I think we got to him ;)
Troll me to death, reinforce my point!
Clearly don't see how contradictory your behaviours are, short sighted apes.
I'd rather replies than -1's at least then you can prove to me how contradictory, hypocritical, trollish and pathetic your arguments for support of Nuffen really is.
The problem being -on virtually all forums- nobody answers constructive criticism.
You have to be confident that many people will read and (because it is constructive) agree without leaving any sign of it, which is quite painfull sometimes.
You got three + by now, proving you wrong :D
You generally don't win arguments by making the other side /facepalm into submission :wink:Well we have to test that, don't we?
Well we have to test that, don't we?
I'm already disappointed because this recent turn of events affected me greatly in a very negative way.
I don't want to see Nuffen losing admin powers because what he did.
I want to see him losing admin powers because it seems that having admin powers in c-rpg is big deal and srsbsns.
Also I want to see all you VRN guys frown because I don't like your attitude towards this community.
You're not IRC, IRC was cool and they had healthy attitude. You're not (for the most part).
I really don't like the changes this community went trough past 6 months. It got corrupted and rotten in some way.
I really don't like the changes this community went trough past 6 months. It got corrupted and rotten in some way.
I'm already disappointed because this recent turn of events affected me greatly in a very negative way.
I don't want to see Nuffen losing admin powers because what he did.
I want to see him losing admin powers because it seems that having admin powers in c-rpg is big deal and srsbsns.
Also I want to see all you VRN guys frown because I don't like your attitude towards this community.
You're not IRC, IRC was cool and they had healthy attitude. You're not (for the most part).
I really don't like the changes this community went trough past 6 months. It got corrupted and rotten in some way.
I really don't like the changes this community went trough past 6 months. It got corrupted and rotten in some way.
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Then help us make it better.
By quitting.
You sound confused and ignorant.
It's a shame to see so many witch-hunters infect the community ;_;.
Many of IRC used to actively play, even chadz was semi-active, fasader and paul were very active. These days very few of you guys (devs) play the mod you're trying to finish. You are either super busy working on something epic or you simply don't give a damn anymore.
How do you know they don't play? Do you stalk whatever in game nicks they come up with? Creepy :|
Nuffen still actively plays.
I do play A LOT these days. A lot!
Haven't seen him in days.
So nuffen can stay admin with +1 vote over the people who voted to remove... I remember how many people spoke out against nuffen back then, nuffen hadn't achieved as much support he has now, yet disturbingly he clung on by a single vote, I believe this goes further than superficial support... Further than merely VRN and Fallen and Guards voting to keep nuffen admin.. Conspiracies!
Remember the guy you accidentially TKed half a hour ago, Guard_Angryman? thats me :P
You mind keeping entire clans of 70+ people out of this?
Thanks.
As for myself, i'm still reading the thread (17 pages, daum), but i'm still missing solid proof where Nuffen abused his admin rights. A lot of people complaining, but not so much as a single piece of solid proof? Sounds strange to me.
We call those people "those who got banned."
Remember the guy you accidentially TKed half a hour ago, Guard_Angryman? thats me :P
Not really, today I TKed accidentially just one Guard member and that wasn't Angryman. Might be mistaken. Hit Tenne one accidentally but didn't kill him, maybe I did once dunno.
I'm very careful with my swings, that gets me killed a lot because I don't swing mindlessly. But I do some fuck-up and hit teammates sometimes.
Anyway, enough with my off-topic and my posting in this thread. Have your fun, whatever happens isn't going to help me in anyway so I don't really care anymore.
You mind keeping entire clans of 70+ people out of this?
Thanks.
As for myself, i'm still reading the thread (17 pages, daum), but i'm still missing solid proof where Nuffen abused his admin rights. A lot of people complaining, but not so much as a single piece of solid proof? Sounds strange to me.
Are you sure it was me? Or was it one of my clones that have invaded the servers?
I think the admins have to much "power" regarding this, they can just give you a ban for something minor for however long they want depending on there mood or what they think of you.I would support a book of cRPG law for admins and players, which clearly displays the rules and the punishment for various offenses.
I am not sure if nuffen is the problem or because of the lack of clear guidelines. In my case I got banned for teamhitting for 7-days, that is simply WAY to long especially considerings this did not happen, but that is, I assume, because he mixed me up with someone else (we where all named the same). Someone else who was annoyed by us even stated a 7-day ban is to long.
In the spoiler there's a link which leads to the topic with some videos and screenshots and peoples stories. You can say it's not enough, you can disbelieve me, but i am tired of people that keep stating that "there's no proof Nuffen is abusing his powers". There never will be enough proof . You just gotta figure it out for yourselves.
One of the movies shows a guy attacking a pimp twice. The other movie shows a guy kicking a pimp twice. The screenshot shows.. pimps attacking enemies (as yourself describing it). How is this at all relevant to admin abooze?
Are your accusations "the admin didnt see this and therefore didnt act, so hes abusing?"
Or?
In the spoiler there's a link which leads to the topic with some videos and screenshots and peoples stories.
Stop this bullshit, we know what happened really, and if you ask me, you and your funny troll friends should get a timeout for it for a long time.
Nuffens bullshit has gone right to the top then? Complete corruption of truth and distortion of events from his continuous lying, and you're eating it like it was chocolate on Easter, how dumb you really are.
You really should seek professional help.
Paranoid schizophrenic much?
I speak from reaction to words spoken not imaginary scenarios.
One of the movies shows a guy attacking a pimp twice. The other movie shows a guy kicking a pimp twice. The screenshot shows.. pimps attacking enemies (as yourself describing it). How is this at all relevant to admin abooze?On the videos and the screenshot you can see :
Are your accusations "the admin didnt see this and therefore didnt act, so hes abusing?"
Or?
If you donate lots of money to cRPG you can get away with being a complete and utter irresponsible twat.
When I said the vote for nuffen to loose his powers which he won by 1 vote was fixed, I now have reason to strengthen that accusation.
On the videos and the screenshot you can see :
1) Legio guy teamattacking one of the pimps, than as the pimp player tried to defend himself he gets INSTANTLY banned for 7 days on the same second and Legio guy stays untouched. Which leads us to
You were deliberately ignoring our requests (public chat, admin chat) to stop people from teamwounding and teamkilling us right in front of you. When you could warn- you ignored, when you could kick- you banned for 7 days, when you could be objective- you were subjective. Right in front of me the guy (Duc_...) starts to teamattack us on spawn, kills one of us, we report him to you... nothing. And this same nothing goes on for at least an hour . An hour of pureposely ignoring people. And don't tell me you weren't there and you didn't see the teamkills, i know damn well you were there.
Stop this bullshit, we know what happened really, and if you ask me, you and your funny troll friends should get a timeout for it for a long time.By "We" do you mean the people who chit-chat with Nuffen on IRC ? I'd like to know who are these incredible "we" people who know the truth in the last instance.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but last I checked, Wookimonsta wasn't an admin anymore. You've got some gall to accuse other people of talking bullshit.
Stop this bullshit, we know what happened really, and if you ask me, you and your funny troll friends should get a timeout for it for a long time.
By "We" do you mean the people who chit-chat with Nuffen on IRC ? I'd like to know who are these incredible "we" people who know the truth in the last instance.
getting myself banned all the time,
you were banned once? Or do you have a history of being banned?
All you had to do was to do as the guy you griefed, post an unban post and get a 3 day ban. You didn't.
I've been banned 3 times, in the what.. 10-13 months I've been playing on this mod.
Funny that you cut the video there, instead of showing the defence and then the ban. Ups, its because you know that this was not the incident he was banned for.LOL. There' you've utterly failed now.Now you are being a complete freaking liar and i don't care if chadz supports you or not.
Twice on NA, yes? Back then you also accused them of having a grudge against you. It was not about you, it was about the admins. Am I right? :)
Ok so you don't have to like us but we don't deserve to be treated like shit on the bottom of a shoe when our cases are legitimate, Nuffens grudges and irresponsible behaviour is evident, his trolling is lame and evident, he's been up for many nominations and it's evident there's a problem with his administration ability, yet hey sweep it all under the carpet because we're just trolls.
I need professional help, someone to teach me how to understand the English language I must seek it! In a dictionary!
I haven't even talked to nuffen about it, as it's not about nuffen, it's about you.If you want to put things that way , ok.
If I see one more incident of you guys wounding teamplayers to make them teamkill you and then shout "BAN" it'll be your last time on the server, I can guarantee you that.
@chadz and admins/devs: I'm a bit disappointed that you even take a stand in this matter. That renders the whole "nominate an admin"-thing useless.
You seem to misunderstand - this has nothing to do with nuffen. It's about Ujin faking proof (if the video would be longer it would be enough proof to ban him). It doesn't matter if he uses it to deadmin someone or to get someone else banned. For me, this is very close to permaban worthy.
I'm putting this up as a friendly warning.
You seem to misunderstand - this has nothing to do with nuffen. It's about Ujin faking proof (if the video would be longer it would be enough proof to ban him).
The problem being -on virtually all forums- nobody answers constructive criticism.
You have to be confident that many people will read and (because it is constructive) agree without leaving any sign of it, which is quite painfull sometimes.
@chadz and admins/devs: I'm a bit disappointed that you even take a stand in this matter. That renders the whole "nominate an admin"-thing useless.
I'm only taking a stand against outrageous lies, misrepresentations and hysteria. I'm not going to say anything about the poll.
That's half my battle.
1. It was not at spawn, you were all in the small boat on the other side of the big boat. What I saw was tons of pimps teamwounding him, and him teamwounding pimps. I could ofc have banned all of you back then, but that would have been too harsh, so I choose to warn you all. He then stopped the teamwounding, when the pimps didnt, two of them received a ban later on.
I haven't even talked to nuffen about it, as it's not about nuffen, it's about you.
If I see one more incident of you guys wounding teamplayers to make them teamkill you and then shout "BAN" it'll be your last time on the server, I can guarantee you that.
Wait? What you have not talked to nuffen (or anyone else for that matter) but yet clearly made up your mind about us?
Nuffen has the bunch of idiots wrapped around his pinky. I've never asked anyone to support me, I've only ever argued against what I considered unjust bans and decision making, this eventually changed into questioning the character of the admin who does such things so frequently, as is why I'm proving character evidence from his own posts. Questioning the motives of the foolishly blinds support of such a character is also something worth considering.
What I hate is everyone yelling for proof, but that even nore the dev's seems to be trowing dirt at us and everyone just accepts it. Hell Nuffen even accused me of BSing to cover my tracks or act like I did not do anything. I am somewhat ok with him banning me without proof, but coming on the forums and claim that I am laying? Some proof would be appriciated.
Lol christ Murmillus generated like 4 pages since I last saw this last night. I think everyone gets the point already.
What I hate is everyone yelling for proof, but that even nore the dev's seems to be trowing dirt at us and everyone just accepts it. Hell Nuffen even accused me of BSing to cover my tracks or act like I did not do anything. I am somewhat ok with him banning me without proof, but coming on the forums and claim that I am laying? Some proof would be appriciated.
edit: That is the problem with this system. Thread like these. People just start taking side (even sure people who never been on the EU official server will vote based on how they like Nuffen as a player) and trow dirt. The voting should be done without debate. People either like him as admin or not. If there is clear proof of an admin abusing then I am sure he be remove anyway by the dev team.
A little collateral damage is acceptable and if you look at those posts it becomes obvious that it still hit the right ones. ^^
I hate to repeat myself,
Its still the same for me.No problem Ramzes, let's just assume you never knew me and i'm a liar. If chadz says so , why not.
I will continue to vote "no" until I:
1) See Nuffen abuse his admin powers
2) See solid proof of Nuffen abusing his admin powers.
I'm sorry, but those videos doesn't seem like proof to me.
"We were just playing, minding our own business, when everyone started to teamhit us for no reason..."(click to show/hide)
Keep trolling, it's the intelligent way to get to the bottom of a problem. Maybe you should get someone to translate HURR DURR DURR DERP HURR too so you can read this.Self-pwnd much? Why would i want to understand your HURR DERP DURR?
I post so much because I strongly believe in my position. It's not influenced by social positions, power politics, clique psychology, grudges, pointless hate or the such.
Wait you banned me for doing something a map back? I did not do this and I am sure of this, also seems rather bad pratice to wait what? 10 minutes before actually banning the offenders? Hell I only joined later on this map coming back from being AFK and the only teamhitting I have personally seen pimps doing was to a chick (and to themselves) at the big boat. And yes we all agree that a ban for them who did this would have been fair (but 7-days really?). Also why was I banned for teamkilling? This a serious question, was this simply laziness, typo, what?
But offcourse your an admin and can not be wrong :shock: I must be BS'ing because I am hiding the fact that I did something wrong. I mean an admin would not do such a thing. I would love to see the warnings I have recieved or the teamkills I have done.
http://pastebin.com/HfmPcDnk
just btw.
nice how you cut and edit the the chat to only show what the pimps where saying there was a person Duc_(something) saying hes hunting and team killing pimps. also people where all saying "n*igga this and that. funny how you chose not to show that suff. fuuny how its claimed ujin faked the vid realy? :rolleyes: corruption noes no bounds.....
I didnt edit anything, I just cut out wahat one of the pimps where saying to show what he was banned from. Yes, someone was saying niggas and stuff like that, they were pimps..
I never claimed that ujin faked the vid. Im saying that it doesnt show any bans or anything, means it doesnt show that I banned because of that incident (which I didnt). Basicly, those two movies shows nothing.
people where saying alot of crap because you where muting them if they said any sentience with the word admin in it.. 3 or more people sent admin messages about team killers in spawn they went ignored.
also you banned 1 guy for NO REASON you lyed and made lame excuses. the 2nd guy was being attacked in spawn. he did say he swung once, but was trying to block, and you banned him.. why didnt you ban the guy team attacking in spawn. you banned the victim..
"We were just playing, minding our own business, when everyone started to teamhit us for no reason..."(click to show/hide)
Nuffen should stay he was more then helpfull for server questions and most of the trolls know not to tk when he is on the server cause he is one of the few admins that will warn/kick/ban. If you look at swartish report his story changes from horse bumping to stabbing at somone on horse backNo it doesn't.
No it doesn't.
I stated from the very start that i accidently bumped someone and then they began to shoot arrows into my horse, i responded to this by thrusting my lance near them. That archer then killed my horse as i was riding away. As my character was getting off the ground i was given a 365 day ban for teamkilling, by nuffen.
see below;
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,13043.0.html
My story hasn't changed because i'm not a liar.
Nuffens story, on the other hand, has progressively become more and more exaggerated as the days have gone by.
You can see first he claims i thrust my lance at someone entirely unprovoked and they only survived by blocking it.
Then a day later it changes to me intentionally bumping "loads" of teammates.
I just don't care how chaotic his decisions are anymore, we need active admins. And by active I mean not "ingame" admins, but admins that cba to go to specc and lose some precious gaming time when informed of a "situation", because administrating is not a right, it's a duty, deal with it. And I have the right to say so, because I've been there, done that, several times in other games/mods.
Cheers
Come on, you want somebody who will make good decisions too.
I just don't care how chaotic his decisions are anymore, we need active admins. And by active I mean not "ingame" admins, but admins that cba to go to specc and lose some precious gaming time when informed of a "situation", because administrating is not a right, it's a duty, deal with it. And I have the right to say so, because I've been there, done that, several times in other games/mods.
Cheers
If its just about friendly bumping, half of cRPG´s cav players should be permabanned.That´s that.
No! Don't bump the thread with clever ideas!
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I figure team horse-bumping is an act of karma, as suitable retribution for all the times teammates would damage my horse when I couldn't accidentally run over them, or for all the times I was dismounted and called a horse to me and then a teammate killed it en-route. Anyone who gets run over by a teammate had it coming, and needs to pay more attention to his or her surroundings.
Much better.
For riding a horse you should have to get a "riding license."
You'd have to go through an obstacle course, answer question etc. Every two weeks.
The obstacle course would consist a heavily populated area where the rider has to get from point A to B, withoug bumping anyone.
If you bump one guy, fine. But bump 2 or 3, and oops, no license.
I know, stupid suggestion is stupid. But it sounds funny. :mrgreen:
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[/quote]Pretty much this.
However, when I play cav I extremely rarely bump teammates. At least when there are no enemies nearby, half my attention is dedicated to avoid teammates, trees, buildings and the like. My point is, I can't really say the same for all the cav I see. I guess nearly all the high profile cav do very few teambumps (apart those that actually help the teammate because you killed the guy he was fighting) and avoid them carefully, but many players aren't that good with a horse.
Furthermore, even with both the cav and inf are aware and willing to avoid, sometimes when they take the same direction the bump still happens. I guess we need a battlefield code that says everyone has to avoid other teammates by turning right (fuck english people :lol:).
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Just to Nuffens defence..
He did a mistake with the unban thing, and by my standards he banned the fellow for too long in the first place.
But.
Whenever I see friendly horse bumpers deliberately riding over teammates running to the ruins at field by the river etc.. I ban immediately. If it's someone I don't recognize it might be an hour ban, and putting it on the noob account. If it's someone famous for their trolling or should know better. (all experienced players) I ban a day or 3 after severity.
a post of mine form page 20 gets deleted.... nice way to make yourselfs look better :rolleyes:
Nuffen can't delete posts.
what a good day
I can gurantee everyone, this is not a good day, for no one.
Keep an eye on the announcement forum.
I can gurantee everyone, this is not a good day, for no one.
Keep an eye on the announcement forum.
Hmm.
What happened?
Could you guys be even more cryptic?L̵̴̢̛̝̗͙̟͇͔̞͒͑̏̽ͥ̔́͛ͭ͆ͧ̑͊̈́̌̚r̶̗̻̥̜̠̯͔̱̼͉͈̳̎̉̊̌̉͑͆̿̿́́̕͘f̴̧̨̛͕̫͎̗̳̫̟̦͍̹̣̠͖̤̫͓͓̎̔ͫ̉͗͢ͅ ̵̉̽͒̌̉͑̇͏̸͓̘̦͍̤͚̦̭̳̼͠j̵̧̍͋̊ͣ͐ͯͩ̆͗̾͋ͣ͗̋̔̇͘͘͏̤͇͈͈͎r̡̯͖͉̹̩͖̰̭̣̼̹̞͎͕̥̈̈̉ͅ ̵̀ͥ͆̄̓̐̅̔͂̇̇̒ͫ͊̉̈ͦ͏̸͔̞̥̬͇͉̤̻̀ͅp̴ͬ͛̅̀̓̕҉͓͓̝̭̮̭͇͙ņ̳̲͚͙̲̖͚̯̺̻̪̈́̌ͭ̇ͮ̌̏̾̈́̀a̶͇̺̥̫̮̝̘̭͔̩̭̱͕̒̒ͪ́̔ͦ͊̔̐͑́̕͢.̥̫͓̝̜̰̺̤̖̠̰̤͖͓͙̦̼̫̟̑̾͌̀ͧ͆̌ͨ̓̑ͪ̽̓ͪ͂ͧ͗̑̓͡͞
:mrgreen:
L̵̴̢̛̝̗͙̟͇͔̞͒͑̏̽ͥ̔́͛ͭ͆ͧ̑͊̈́̌̚r̶̗̻̥̜̠̯͔̱̼͉͈̳̎̉̊̌̉͑͆̿̿́́̕͘f̴̧̨̛͕̫͎̗̳̫̟̦͍̹̣̠͖̤̫͓͓̎̔ͫ̉͗͢ͅ ̵̉̽͒̌̉͑̇͏̸͓̘̦͍̤͚̦̭̳̼͠j̵̧̍͋̊ͣ͐ͯͩ̆͗̾͋ͣ͗̋̔̇͘͘͏̤͇͈͈͎r̡̯͖͉̹̩͖̰̭̣̼̹̞͎͕̥̈̈̉ͅ ̵̀ͥ͆̄̓̐̅̔͂̇̇̒ͫ͊̉̈ͦ͏̸͔̞̥̬͇͉̤̻̀ͅp̴ͬ͛̅̀̓̕҉͓͓̝̭̮̭͇͙ņ̳̲͚͙̲̖͚̯̺̻̪̈́̌ͭ̇ͮ̌̏̾̈́̀a̶͇̺̥̫̮̝̘̭͔̩̭̱͕̒̒ͪ́̔ͦ͊̔̐͑́̕͢.̥̫͓̝̜̰̺̤̖̠̰̤͖͓͙̦̼̫̟̑̾͌̀ͧ͆̌ͨ̓̑ͪ̽̓ͪ͂ͧ͗̑̓͡͞
Not even trying fool.
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You called me fool two times. Once in game and once on forums. Next time you do that, I'll slap you IRL :)
A sad day i believe, indeed a few bad decisions were made but nuffen has kept the major server tidy by himself for long periods of time. I feel peoples judgement's on him did not fully take into account the amount of beneficial work he did for the community and even though I've had personal encounters with him in my past, I do believe on the whole his administration was more than up to scratch.
Good luck Nuffen, with whatever you do from here.(click to show/hide)
Just to Nuffens defence..
He did a mistake with the unban thing, and by my standards he banned the fellow for too long in the first place.
But.
Whenever I see friendly horse bumpers deliberately riding over teammates running to the ruins at field by the river etc.. I ban immediately. If it's someone I don't recognize it might be an hour ban, and putting it on the noob account. If it's someone famous for their trolling or should know better. (all experienced players) I ban a day or 3 after severity.
He (maybe) lost his admin powers. I don't feel either satisfied or sad. Although I would if what was decided by the community isn't respected (either one way or the other). But nuffen certainly did not loose his right of playing the game. If he quits playing cRPG because of that, I guess removing his admin powers wasn't such a bad idea.
And btw :
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The whole admin abuse forum was a mistake in the first place anyways. I wouldn't let people in this community vote on which colour socks I'd wearLet's test what the response would be.
the player is basically a big whiny bitch abloo bloo'ing because admins don't let him have fun the way he wants, i.e trolling, delaying, teamwounding/tking, not playing the game the way it's meant to be played, because that's not FUN enough, no, you have to be a massively annoying twat to everyone else on a server to get your fucking jollies. And then they act like some kind of martyrs because the game isn't fun unless they can do whatever the fuck they want in it, up to ruining it for everyone else.
The whole admin abuse forum was a mistake in the first place anyways. I wouldn't let people in this community vote on which colour socks I'd wear, much less who is an admin. For every real abusive admin case there's a dozen perceived ones, where the player is basically a big whiny bitch abloo bloo'ing because admins don't let him have fun the way he wants, i.e trolling, delaying, teamwounding/tking, not playing the game the way it's meant to be played, because that's not FUN enough, no, you have to be a massively annoying twat to everyone else on a server to get your fucking jollies. And then they act like some kind of martyrs because the game isn't fun unless they can do whatever the fuck they want in it, up to ruining it for everyone else.Agreed.
The red text is a typical spawn lag situation.And you know that Mr. horse hater lobbyist.Retard.
Your admin rights should be removed immediately for this statment... Who do you think you are? God himself.
ban for spawn lag with no warning .... :evil:
Btw, did you ban immediately teamwounding 2h and pole spamers who swing their weapon regardless of the consequences (50 % of the players do that )