When you die you'll drop all your items instead of just the one you had equipped.
Not something you could qq about.
Oh i noticed when you kick your guy doesnt autoblock anymore, i find that awesome!
Just quote an add stuff that you find out. :D
What i noticed so far is.
Removed jump shots noticed that from all the rage.
Heavy lances now 1hit again when couching people so guess its back to normal.
Added double hits.
Crushrough no longer works without holding attacks before release.
No more autoblock when kicking
How come I can jump throw and never see double hits? Is the patch out for EU only?Patch is EU_1 only.
so kick isn't worth it anymore
Crushrough no longer works without holding attacks before release.
No more blocking while kicking.
Every item equipped drops to the ground when you die.
Apparently for cRPG devs it's easier and faster to code and calculate a new mechanic (the turn rate change has been suggested ~beginning of december) than to add several new items brought by the community . I honestly don't know anything about the processes of patching games and such so i wouldn't know whether it's a hard thing to do or not
I can't add new items (needs a cRPG patch, which I can't release by myself) but I can update servers and WSE2 clients.Ah, i see. I guess that would require more coordination and time then. Well.. patience is a virtue =).
You can remove double hits from the list. Also, I don't remember changing couching in any way.
I can't add new items (needs a cRPG patch, which I can't release by myself) but I can update servers and WSE2 clients.
"can no longer block while kicking"
WHY
WHY WHY WHY
Using kicks was already one of the most difficult things to do in cRPG. Most people didn't even bother trying the same way that they don't bother trying to parry because it's too hard. Now kicks are going to be completely useless.
Shielders are going to be ridiculously frustrating to fight if they can just hold W and spam and there's nothing you can do to stop them.
"can no longer block while kicking"
WHY
WHY WHY WHY
Using kicks was already one of the most difficult things to do in cRPG. Most people didn't even bother trying the same way that they don't bother trying to parry because it's too hard. Now kicks are going to be completely useless.
Shielders are going to be ridiculously frustrating to fight if they can just hold W and spam and there's nothing you can do to stop them.
Oh and add to the list:
- holding your attacks for too long will reduce damage
Just quote an add stuff that you find out. :D
What i noticed so far is.
Removed jump shots noticed that from all the rage.
Crushrough no longer works without holding attacks before release.
No more blocking while kicking.
Every item equipped drops to the ground when you die.
None lethal projectiles stick in the head.
Horse bump got nerfed, cannot knock down people with arabian, courser and similar horses. Dunno how it works for heavier horses. .
This shit better just be in gay EU 1. Now i'll never get back on there. Not even once lol. Seriously.
This was the most fucked thing.
Horse bump got nerfed, cannot knock down people with arabian, courser and similar horses. Dunno how it works for heavier horses
and
Crushrough no longer works without holding attacks before release.
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Oh and add to the list:
- holding your attacks for too long will reduce damage
Hmm...I was in support of the holding in order to crushthrough change, but this is a bit of a double whammy for them isn't it? Basically a choice of crushthrough or damage innit?
So how long do they have to hold before being able to crushthrough, and how long can you hold before damage goes down? Seems as though we need actual numbers here to play properly :|
No more blocking while kicking.
Isn't that already the case ? I remember something like a 1.5 damage sweetspot at x seconds then going down to 1.2 after y seconds
Maybe now this 1.2 is less than 1
Oh and add to the list:how long is too long and reduce by how much ?
- holding your attacks for too long will reduce damage
These recent changes did buff one "class" and that's agi shielder. We will certainly see more of those in upcoming months if things stay this way.
Only way I'll support held attack nerf is to make same changes to shields, aka the longer you hold shield up the more damage shield takes or something like that.seriously the heroes get nerfed for holding weapons but all mighty shielders can hold up their steel shields for days with no penalty
Also, what happened with removal of forceshield from horseback, you said you're going to do it?
Why the hell should a shield take more damage because you hold it up for a while? Doesn't make any sense. That would make a shield totally useless while fighting several enemies at once... This change also affects shielders. I am working a lot with hold attacks. Please just stop crying if you have no idea of this class...
the longer you hold shield up the more damage shield takes or something like that.That's bullshit, think about what happens when a shielder is surrounded by ranged. Does his shield gets broken in pieces because he was holding it up all the time?
Why the hell should a shield take more damage because you hold it up for a while? Doesn't make any sense. That would make a shield totally useless while fighting several enemies at once... This change also affects shielders. I am working a lot with hold attacks. Please just stop crying if you have no idea of this class...
Shielders are fine, they neither need a nerf nor buff.
Kinngrimm bought 20 certificates and now cmp is listening to him. Want proof:
1. Mauls nerfed
2. Kicks nerfed
3. Horsebump nerfed
2 hander axes all got buffed recently. Unblockable attacks are a pretty bad game mechanic imo, don't care if it indirectly affects shielders. Kicks are a buff to shielders since they could never block during kicking themselves so its only a nerf to non-shielders (indirect buff to shielders). Horsebump is a buff to everyone except cav
ARTIEstrongestmanintheworld is quiting because of this nerf. thnx a alot :mad:
Guy puts in 2 years of solid playing only to get nerfed and have his fun ruined.
fyi these changes aren't bringing new people in, just making old vets leave
@Grumbs I agree. I want a game with different classes with different strengths and weaknesses not some lame-ass balance fest where everybody needs to be the same. If I wanted balance I'd go play those super boring MMO's! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
How did he get nerfed? Didn't see any throwing nerf in this patch. Or maybe i'm blind lol.jump throwing if I remember correctly
Lance couch is back to one hit.
That's bullshit, think about what happens when a shielder is surrounded by ranged. Does his shield gets broken in pieces because he was holding it up all the time?warhammer and military hammer dont glance son. also steel picks destroy high end armor. against high end armor pierce is better than blunt
The shield is like an autoblocker, which can block several enemies at once, that's why people choose this class, in return, they get a tiny 1h sword/dildomace/toothpick, which glances on all the 30/9, 65 armor 2h heroes.(click to show/hide)
so kick isn't worth it anymore and 90% of chambers get blocked. how are we supposed to actually fight the best players :/this pretty much explains wy it was nerfed. :)
Lance couch is back to one hit.
Same as leshma 69 body armor 70 hp gone in 1 couch. happend 3 times now from heavy lance couch.
Some feedback for mod makers, regarding latest changes they made:that one is rediculous, maybe make it like:
Light horses unable to knock down people - retarded
Archer's hammer (and everything else) blocking great maul overhead - retarded
Long range bow shots doing 0 damage - retarded
All these changes show one thing pretty clearly, whoever made these changes has 0 game time in last year or so.
I'm seriously thinking about leaving this mod and upcoming game behind me.. but will take another break to see will these idiotic changes be reverted in few months.
Light horses unable to knock down people - retarded
Archer's hammer (and everything else) blocking great maul overhead - retarded
Long range bow shots doing 0 damage - retarded
People complained about horse knockdown for forever, its a good change.
People complained about lolstab and pike/lspear foreve but..
And the turn-rate of those weapons was reduced yet again, in the newest version.
Grumbs, why take part in something you obviously have no clue about?
Great maul is still largely untouched and can, with a good build, still knockdown trough most weapons/shields.(click to show/hide)
I am sick of rereading my own posts about crushtrough and mauls, but, when I read stuff like yours just now, I feel compelled to reply.
What are you correcting me on exactly? I abstractly talked about the mechanic, not about current chance to crushthrough. I don't particularly agree with the actual game mechanic, the RNG nature of it, and the fact that it bypasses a block just because you landed an overhead.
well technically isnt damage have some randomness and damage still part of crushthrough formula?Factors in the damage before soak etc. There is no randomness to it.
People complained about horse knockdown for forever, its a good change.
No, it's not a good change. FYI, I've played this mod when horses couldn't bump teammates (like in early native versions) and that was okay. But this isn't, bump is very annoying (I personally hate it) but it's necessary. Not to mention how silly it looks when light horse just interrupts you and doesn't knock you over.i dont get it, if a horse comes at you you are gonna stabit anyways, right? So what are you adapting to?
Another problem is so called test server. Just when I adapt to new changes, switching to EU4 means horses can knock me over again.
Well I could stab if I had stabbing weapon at that time.Allright i see but youll still try to evade and hit it, right? :P
Allright i see but youll still try to evade and hit it, right? :P
I was slow, using a slow weapon with no stab. Of course that with 8 ath and GGS I can take cav without any problem. That's what I do the best.what is your current ath?
what is your current ath?He was using an alt.
He was using an alt.
I think 80-100% max speed should still floor a player on the lighter horses. My bias stems from carrying an anti-cav polearm, but I know how frustrating it is to be knocked down as a 100% aware shielder by a just-past-trotting arabian. When I think 'nerf cav', heavy horses come to mind, but their charge should be more devastating, and that was only portrayed through bump damage before. I agree there should be a difference between light and heavy bumps. Something more punishing than the 1-second "Argh" stun as a rouncey plows into you full speed, but less punishing than being completely floored by an Arabian Warhorse weaving through a melee fight at half speed. Again, just thoughts.
any cav nerfs are good, if you disagree you're bad or cav
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Well me and MK dude were fighting kinngrimm and he tried to bump him 3 times with Large Warhorse, no success.Was he riding at full speed?
well this new patch killed all fun and skillz for me as shielder.
well this new patch killed all fun and skillz for me as shielder.
lolwutActually it's easier to CT when you hold the overhead now than it was before. It was the quick overheads that got worse CT chance.
You can't be knocked down by horse bump anymore, you can dance because you have higher turn rate than anyone else, you can spam left swing until tomorrow (or someone chambers you which is rare), mauls can't crush through your shield that easily.. I don't understand why are you complaining?
lolwut
You can't be knocked down by horse bump anymore, you can dance because you have higher turn rate than anyone else, you can spam left swing until tomorrow (or someone chambers you which is rare), mauls can't crush through your shield that easily.. I don't understand why are you complaining?
My nordic champion is now slower then great long bardiche. Only thing i see is every weapon is faster then mine.
I liked crushtrough on mauls,i loved bumps from horses and all that mentioned stuff i can't play with this now.
I want everything back as it was,this new "buff" is shit. Old system was way more OP for shielders then this.
Only motherfuckers i see dancing are long axe users.
Actually it's easier to CT when you hold the overhead now than it was before. It was the quick overheads that got worse CT chance.
But the rest you said is true.
He has a point though, the end point of a GLB travels faster than that of any 1h. And the GLB has enough base damage to hit the moment your swing becomes active or only very few frames after that, making the speed stat irrelevant.
I don't care am i right or wrong i see that i suck much more then usually after ur suggested fixes. I want crpg from 2 weeks ago.
I don't care am i right or wrong i see that i suck much more then usually after ur suggested fixes. I want crpg from 2 weeks ago.
Yeah, but when you hold overhead every decent shielder will spam you to death. That's why I said it's harder for maulers to deal with shielders than it was before.Actually, you said "mauls can't crush through your shield that easily". I agree that it's harder to pull off a CT against a shielder, but the CT itself is stronger.
And i want CRPG back from 2 years ago.
Can't get everything in this world :?
maybe try switching ur weapon?
i see shielders doing really well.
I know i am shielder but they are fucking annoying cunts. Only reason they are doing well is cuz they have short douchebag weapons like steel pick,elite scimitar niuwedao... Srsly every time i see those weapons that have 100 or over speed i think person who use that weapon is douchebag,low skill prick.I'm actually kind of bewildered at someone having such a petty, ugly mindset. Do you have aspergers?
I'm actually kind of bewildered at someone having such a petty, ugly mindset. Do you have aspergers?
You are a perfect example of what is wrong with this community. You see someone using something, and they're immediately a low skill "prick". You people invest so much emotion into your playstyle and into winning, you lose any notion of logic or common sense, and it's easier to demonize and dehumanize your opponent instead of understanding why he would play differently, or that you're losing to someone with more skill.
Now, myself I preferred an italian falcon, but I did pick up these other weapons from time to time. If I saw a tincan, I picked up or carried a pick as a secondary weapon for dealing with tincans. In regards to the elite scimitar, I love the classic look of it, aesthetically I like the curve and exoticness of a scimitar. I used to imagine my ingame persona as a varangian who picked up a trophy in the east.
It's an amazingly childish behavior. I can easily imagine you stomping your foot and running around your house screaming and wailing like a demented 10 year old who just got sniped. You fit the image perfectly.
People need to invest less emotion in this. Especially when it make you sound like a plexing aspie kid. Take horses for example. If I run someone down and trample them, that's how it went in battle. Now, I know my playstyle pisses some people off to high hell and back, but that's kind of how it went. They were the tanks of olden times. Myself, I consider myself a bump specialist, I would rather bump and knock someone down than to try and lance them. Why? Because with a ping of 155, it can get a lil difficult to actually land hits or manually block. Also, because I know I'm helping usually a clan mate out. I don't typically get a decent score, often negative KD, but it makes feel good being somewhat useful.
Either way, long story short, grow the fuck up you fucking children. You're killing this game.
But not against a specific class or weapon like the one that he quoted, but more against the attitude of those that do.
Just saying.
But not against a specific class or weapon like the one that he quoted, but more against the attitude of those that do.
Just saying.
I'm actually kind of bewildered at someone having such a petty, ugly mindset. Do you have aspergers?Lets be honest you use it because it alows you to spam. There is no style,and no cool look in that.
You are a perfect example of what is wrong with this community. You see someone using something, and they're immediately a low skill "prick". You people invest so much emotion into your playstyle and into winning, you lose any notion of logic or common sense, and it's easier to demonize and dehumanize your opponent instead of understanding why he would play differently, or that you're losing to someone with more skill.
Now, myself I preferred an italian falcon, but I did pick up these other weapons from time to time. If I saw a tincan, I picked up or carried a pick as a secondary weapon for dealing with tincans. In regards to the elite scimitar, I love the classic look of it, aesthetically I like the curve and exoticness of a scimitar. I used to imagine my ingame persona as a varangian who picked up a trophy in the east.
It's an amazingly childish behavior. I can easily imagine you stomping your foot and running around your house screaming and wailing like a demented 10 year old who just got sniped. You fit the image perfectly.
People need to invest less emotion in this. Especially when it make you sound like a plexing aspie kid. Take horses for example. If I run someone down and trample them, that's how it went in battle. Now, I know my playstyle pisses some people off to high hell and back, but that's kind of how it went. They were the tanks of olden times. Myself, I consider myself a bump specialist, I would rather bump and knock someone down than to try and lance them. Why? Because with a ping of 155, it can get a lil difficult to actually land hits or manually block. Also, because I know I'm helping usually a clan mate out. I don't typically get a decent score, often negative KD, but it makes feel good being somewhat useful.
Either way, long story short, grow the fuck up you fucking children. You're killing this game.
If you want to use gay weapons like glaive,steel pick,scimitar then use it,but i will always think you are my old friends.(click to show/hide)
This. Sometimes its very blatant some players are using this or that equipment and playing doing this or that move all the time just because they think it is better and they would rather win quickly over having a fun time, learning other things or standing out.
Lets be honest you use it because it alows you to spam. There is no style,and no cool look in that.Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're developmentally challenged in some way. I'm not sure I should even respond, but here goes: Robin Hood with Morgan Freeman was the start of it, as well as Antonio Banderas in the 13th warrior, hell even the ill fated swordsman in Indiana Jones, every time I saw one, I wanted one. Talwars, shamshirs, omg yatagahns? Sign me up boss, I like my weapons like my women, curvy. And am I seeing you complain about Arabian warhorses? Hell, I use them because I think Arabian horses are beautiful and that the models are nicer than the other horses. I even did my own retexture since I like it so much. You might be noticing at this point I dig exotic stuff.
I had scimitar and elite scimitar few months ago and it was most unwanted weapon ever. PPl were hating that weapon so bad,ppl hate it now even more but for some reason it have nice price same as mioadao,arabian warhorse,courser and other similar items that ppl were hating.
Now all of sudden those items have high price.
I personally can't block steel pick and mioadao and scimitar. I don't have time to react.
If you want to use gay weapons like glaive,steel pick,scimitar then use it,but i will always think you are my old friends.
Either way, long story short, grow the fuck up you fucking children. You're killing this game.
Nah, the fact that the only devs who play are ranged sympathisers kills the game.
How can you leave xbows like they are for so long? How can you buff PD and the top bows? Adding a bit of extra weight didn't change a thing for kiting
Kinngrim is having a field day :lol:got several time already killed by kick slash on eu1 since patch ... so no i don't.
Kinngrimm bought 20 certificates and now cmp is listening to him. Want proof:why would i, i got all my looms ;) already, but yes i invested, how much ain't anyonce business. The time i get confirmation that devs actually listen to what i have to say, would be like all feastdays together at once *sigh*
1. Mauls nerfed
2. Kicks nerfed
3. Horsebump nerfed
...... seriously *sigh* again?
I'm seriously thinking about leaving this mod and upcoming game behind me....
If you're gonna nerf shielders just nerf the percentage of boosts for armor, hp you get by increasing shield skill.as most of the times offensive and incoherent
A.ka nerf shield skill. That'll nerf Kinngrimm and all those no-skilled spergs.
But keep 13 shield skill still unbreakable just for the lolz.
Oh you bloody baby, that's the whole point of war, destroying your enemy. If you said back in the day, "No fair, even the playing field :(", some man at arms probably would've chopped through your wooden stick, hacked you down, and moved onto the next opponent. Don't pretend you don't play to win and that it's all for goofs and giggles, were it the case y'all wouldn't be griping about weapon preference and people having an edge over you.
Take it easy kinn, it was a joke. How could I know that you invested and how much, I can only guess :Palways :) and no big deal
About these changes, seems that many things were finely tuned since I posted here, after all it's live testing server (EU1).which are those changes?
I don't see a post about the most recent changes..anyone SS the message when updating?19.01.56
I just remember stabs got their damage reduced early in the animation
I've been playing for almost 4 years now and I have never got the notion that crushthrough was an issue.