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Off Topic => General Off Topic => Topic started by: Panos_ on July 27, 2014, 11:45:27 am

Title: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Panos_ on July 27, 2014, 11:45:27 am
So, after a long 10 year run, my current pc is ready to die.

At the end of August, I`ll receive a good bonus, so I`m thinking investing into a new computer, I did some playing with the customization that cyberpowerpc has, and this is what I made


Case : http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/spec/getspec.aspx?n=CAS&g=1&sid=CAS&pid=CS_OBSIDIAN250D&v=Corsair%20Obsidian%20250D%20Mini-ITX%20Gaming%20Tower%20w%2F%20USB%203.0%2C%20Top%20Window%20Panel


Optical Drive : http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/spec/getspec.aspx?n=CD&v=LG%2012X%20Internal%20Blu-ray%20Drive%20%26%20DVDRW%2C%203D%20Playback%20Combo%20Drive%20%28Black%20Color%29%20[FREE%20Blu-Ray%20Combo%20Drive%20with%20all%204th%20Gen%20Intel%C2%AE%20Core%E2%84%A2%20i7%20or%20i5%20processors%20purchase]


CPU : http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/spec/getspec.aspx?n=CPU&v=Intel%C2%AE%20Core%E2%84%A2%20i7-4790K%204.0%20GHz%208MB%20Intel%20Smart%20Cache%20LGA1150%20%28All%20Venom%20OC%20Certified%29


Air Cooling : http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/spec/getspec.aspx?n=FAN&v=Intel%20Certified%20CPU%20Fan%20%26%20Heatsink


Motherboard : http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/spec/getspec.aspx?n=MOTHERBOARD&v=EVGA%20Z97%20Stinger%20Core%203D%20w%2F%20Creative%20Sound%20Core3D%2C%20Intel%20GbLAN%2C%201%20PCIe%20x16%2C%204x%20SATA%206Gb%2Fs%20%28Extreme%20OC%20Certified%29


RAM : http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/spec/getspec.aspx?n=MEMORY&v=16GB%20%288GBx2%29%20DDR3%2F1866MHz%20Dual%20Channel%20Memory%20%28Corsair%20Vengeance%29


Graphics Card : http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/spec/getspec.aspx?n=VIDEO&v=MSI%20Twin%20Frozr%20NVIDIA%20GeForce%20GTX%20660%202GB%20GDDR5%20PCIe%203.0%20x16%20Video%20Card%20%28Single%20Card%29


Power Supply : http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/spec/getspec.aspx?n=POWERSUPPLY&v=750%20Watts%20-%20Corsair%20CX750%20750W%2080%20PLUS%20BRONZE%20Certified%20Active%20PFC%20Power%20Supply


Hard Drives : http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/spec/getspec.aspx?n=HDD&v=128GB%20SanDisk%20SSD%20%2B%202TB%20SATA%20III%20Hard%20Drive%20Combo%20%28Single%20Drive%29


OS : Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit

The total cost is $1463, but the shipping is free  :mrgreen:



here is a more detailed list


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Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Christo on July 27, 2014, 11:50:19 am
Panos man you are supposed to be more of a fucksystem rebel type, right? I can't imagine you buying a windows license.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Panos_ on July 27, 2014, 11:59:50 am
Panos man you are supposed to be more of a fucksystem rebel type, right? I can't imagine you buying a windows license.

Constructive post is constructive  :lol:
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Gnjus on July 27, 2014, 12:06:25 pm
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Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Christo on July 27, 2014, 12:07:28 pm
Well my PC died down a few weeks ago so I'm also gathering this type of information.

... I don't have spare cash for a new rig however, =(

Could be useful later on, though, I'm out of date like 4 years behind the tech.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Prpavi on July 27, 2014, 12:28:05 pm
Looks good, the only thing I'd recommend is nVidia GTX 770, worth it, it will last you longer, you could take a cheaper mobo no problem and get a better gpu
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: DaveUKR on July 27, 2014, 01:37:28 pm
Videocard is shit tbh, you should focus on videocard first, you don't need i7 CPU with shitty videocard, just saying.

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Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Son Of Odin on July 27, 2014, 02:05:16 pm
This goes into this thread as well

Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: F i n on July 27, 2014, 02:30:40 pm
Panos - is that PC for gaming only?

Cus I've updated my system recently - spent like 1k, but now it kicks ass - and the hardware's better than yours :O.

Also, don't forget to buy a new keyboard!

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ps: PM me if u wanna have my PC build.

Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on July 27, 2014, 04:37:51 pm
Don't buy Intel you are funding international zionism
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Lannistark on July 27, 2014, 05:07:15 pm
Videocard is shit tbh, you should focus on videocard first, you don't need i7 CPU with shitty videocard, just saying.

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Yeah a GTX 660 is absolute bullshit. He should buy a 999$ worth GTX Titan to be able to play everything on ultra 100+ fps because that's the whole of point of existance isn't it.

God, these enthusiasts...
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Christo on July 27, 2014, 05:08:36 pm
Yeah a GTX 660 is absolute bullshit. He should buy a 999$ worth GTX Titan to be able to play everything on ultra 100+ fps because that's the whole of point of existance isn't it.

God, these enthusiasts...

He obviously needs a workstation GPU for 3k-4k $  8-)
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Dalhi on July 27, 2014, 05:28:40 pm
Well, I wouldn't say that GTX 660 is shit, but if you drop SSD, or 8 GB Ram (well you can upgrade those easly later)  he could get a GTX 770 wich might serve him well much longer than the gtx 660.
I suppose that PC is going to be used mainly for gaming so going for a bit more powerfull GPU would be nice addition, especially if he is going with i7.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on July 27, 2014, 05:32:38 pm
Agree with above,
Switch down to a 4690k (i5) and switch the GPU for something better (GTX 770 is an option, look at the build I recommended lemon)

Atm you are going for a tiny case and motherboard, is this intentional?

Also, you don't need a 750W PSU, corsair is a good brand, but CX is their cheapest crap. There should be a 600W seasonic?
You'll also need a decent CPU cooler, the intel stock is shit. Go for a corsair H80i or w/e closed loop watercooling they offer (only decent thing that will fit in that tiny case).
And 16GB of RAM is overkill, 8 is more than enough for games.

Lemon's thread
http://forum.melee.org/general-off-topic/computer-build/

Very similar specs, should help.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Christo on July 27, 2014, 05:39:24 pm
Yeah I'd say don't go Micro-ATX (if that's what they are still called), saves a lot of stress and annoyances in general.

It's like working with a miniature, especially if you have got some giant cards added on top  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: F i n on July 27, 2014, 05:47:12 pm
Agree with above,
Switch down to a 4690k (i5) and switch the GPU for something better (GTX 770 is an option, look at the build I recommended lemon)

Atm you are going for a tiny case and motherboard, is this intentional?

Also, you don't need a 750W PSU, corsair is a good brand, but CX is their cheapest crap. There should be a 600W seasonic?
You'll also need a decent CPU cooler, the intel stock is shit. Go for a corsair H80i or w/e closed loop watercooling they offer (only decent thing that will fit in that tiny case).
And 16GB of RAM is overkill, 8 is more than enough for games.

Lemon's thread
http://forum.melee.org/general-off-topic/computer-build/

Very similar specs, should help.


Jup. That's basically what i told you in that PM too. ;)
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: DaveUKR on July 27, 2014, 09:19:49 pm
Yeah a GTX 660 is absolute bullshit. He should buy a 999$ worth GTX Titan to be able to play everything on ultra 100+ fps because that's the whole of point of existance isn't it.

God, these enthusiasts...

If you are not into PCs then don't judge, please. We're here to help. And having a videocard worth of 200 bucks on a gaming PC with a budget of $1.5k is stupid. People above pointed it out.
Also, Panos, blu-ray drive is a thing that you'll never use.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Herezy92 on July 28, 2014, 11:51:43 am
don't take i7, go for i5.
And go for a better graphic card than this. GTX 760 is nice tbh.

Edit: and 128Gb is clearly not enough. Trust me especially if you play video games.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Renay on July 28, 2014, 12:30:22 pm
Get a better cooling system or you will regret it one day.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Prpavi on July 28, 2014, 02:53:41 pm
Get a better cooling system or you will regret it one day.

Well depending on the case and the airflow, I got Antec Twelve Hundred and a stock cooler on i5 2500, cool as hell, my gpu doesn't go above 60 ...
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on July 29, 2014, 10:58:41 pm
Are you going to build your own?
Or are you going to buy pre-built?

EDIT:
Either of These would be good.

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Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Knitler on August 02, 2014, 01:18:41 pm
http://www.alternate.at/html/configurator/builder/loadSharedConfiguration.html?kind=pcBuilder&id=aaca936194756452a8071b9f50a5f6f1 (http://www.alternate.at/html/configurator/builder/loadSharedConfiguration.html?kind=pcBuilder&id=aaca936194756452a8071b9f50a5f6f1)

How bout mine D:? My old one died cause of ze thunder + infinite amount of other stuff ^^
Btw panos your powersupply could be cheaper and better 750W is quite some ... depending on the effeciency 650 Gold / Bronze plus is enough , but i guess ist too late for it :-)
Also i dont know if i should get better RAM up to 1866, i took it with the best userjudgement ... ;)
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Radament on August 02, 2014, 01:40:53 pm
Agree with above,
Switch down to a 4690k (i5) and switch the GPU for something better (GTX 770 is an option, look at the build I recommended lemon)

Atm you are going for a tiny case and motherboard, is this intentional?

Also, you don't need a 750W PSU, corsair is a good brand, but CX is their cheapest crap. There should be a 600W seasonic?
You'll also need a decent CPU cooler, the intel stock is shit. Go for a corsair H80i or w/e closed loop watercooling they offer (only decent thing that will fit in that tiny case).
And 16GB of RAM is overkill, 8 is more than enough for games.

Lemon's thread
http://forum.melee.org/general-off-topic/computer-build/

Very similar specs, should help.

he suggested good choices but he forgot to mention that your case is utter shit , you need a cooler one for a cool guy , like this
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and you are ready to slay enemies on crpg :)
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 02, 2014, 07:24:13 pm
http://www.alternate.at/html/configurator/builder/loadSharedConfiguration.html?kind=pcBuilder&id=aaca936194756452a8071b9f50a5f6f1 (http://www.alternate.at/html/configurator/builder/loadSharedConfiguration.html?kind=pcBuilder&id=aaca936194756452a8071b9f50a5f6f1)

How bout mine D:? My old one died cause of ze thunder + infinite amount of other stuff ^^
Btw panos your powersupply could be cheaper and better 750W is quite some ... depending on the effeciency 650 Gold / Bronze plus is enough , but i guess ist too late for it :-)
Also i dont know if i should get better RAM up to 1866, i took it with the best userjudgement ... ;)

PSU
http://www.alternate.at/Seasonic/S12G-650-Netzteil/html/product/1105764?

Cooler (pick)
http://www.alternate.at/Zalman/CNPS10X-Optima-CPU-K%C3%BChler/html/product/940606?tk=7&lk=8457
http://www.alternate.at/Corsair/Hydro-Series-H60-Wasserk%C3%BChlung/html/product/1042774?tk=7&lk=8457
http://www.alternate.at/Corsair/Hydro-Series-H110-Wasserk%C3%BChlung/html/product/1057307?tk=7&lk=8457

SSD
http://www.alternate.at/Samsung/840-EVO-2-5-120-GB-SSD/html/product/1090483?tk=7&lk=8674

Mobo (slightly better)
http://www.alternate.at/ASUS/Z97-AR-Mainboard/html/product/1140297?

HDD
http://www.alternate.at/ASUS/Z97-AR-Mainboard/html/product/1140297?

RAM (you can add more later and better quality)
http://www.alternate.at/Corsair/DIMM-8-GB-DDR3-1600-Kit-Arbeitsspeicher/html/product/1083600?tk=7&lk=8442

CPU
http://www.alternate.at/Intel(R)/Core(TM)-i7-4790K-CPU/html/product/1143720?tk=7&lk=8663

GPU
http://www.alternate.at/ASUS/GTX770-DC2OC-2GD5-Grafikkarte/html/product/1082266?tk=7&lk=8543

Or if you are feeling special and want a dedicated physx card :lol:
http://www.alternate.at/ASUS/Bundle-GTX770-DC2OC-2GD5-+-GT630-Grafikkarte/html/product/1146404?tk=7&lk=8543

and not really worth getting 1866MHz RAM tbh, tends to have higher latency and more expensive. (not an amazing gain considering price hike)
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Renay on August 02, 2014, 07:30:03 pm
I also have a Corsair Hydro Series Cooler in my new PC and it's awesome!
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 02, 2014, 08:29:45 pm
I also have a Corsair Hydro Series Cooler in my new PC and it's awesome!

Wish I had one tbh :) (but my zalman CNPS10X is great, can't justify replacing it :P, <55C @4GHz 4770k)

Made sure my friend's build had a H80 though :D
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Renay on August 02, 2014, 09:17:22 pm
I have the H80i
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on August 03, 2014, 12:24:03 am
My tax monies
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: vipere on August 07, 2014, 06:08:10 pm
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gFYcgs

Is this build good for a 800 euros pc ?

Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: v/onMega on August 07, 2014, 08:58:37 pm
4690 k definetly.
Z97 Asrock Extreme 4 if you need loads of USB ports E-Sata etc. (If not? Dont spend more then 100 bugs on a MoBo)
770 is a must. Forget ALL brands apart from MSI or ASUS at the moment.
Their cooling is fucking massively superior, especially the MSI Twin Frozr ( its the noise I talk about)
BUY MSI.
Best bang for the buck SSD atm -> Crucial Mx100

I did some research, I am getting a new comp next month myself. This is the stuff you want.
I am getting the 780 Twin Frozr though :-). 1, 7 sone noise, overclocked and temp target far far away. Best 780 on the market, period.
Noctua D-14 will keep it all nice and cool.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on August 07, 2014, 10:57:26 pm
The only thing I would look at on a mobo these days is SLI/CF compatibility

I heard EVGA 7XX cards are good too, although not at a very competitive pricepoint.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: v/onMega on August 08, 2014, 08:49:13 am
See, I play sims and got external hdd connected.
6x USB 3.0 and 2 x front 3.0 is exactly what I need, cba with hubs like I have it now.
Plus the extreme 4 can do both.
E-Sata etc.

115 Euros for that sounds got to me. Comes down to your needs so research is required.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Prpavi on August 08, 2014, 10:30:03 am
I have a Gaiward 770 and the temps are super cool, absolutely no problems, dunno if it's the case and the good airflow or the card itself but this is my 3rd Gaiward nVidia in a row and I've had absolutely no problems with them, they all ran perfect.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: v/onMega on August 08, 2014, 03:54:19 pm
Their coolers are awesome but loud as all hell compared to MSI.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 09, 2014, 07:11:03 pm
Twin frozr are nice, but ASUS and EVGA have much better warranties and tend to run just as cool (if not cooler for ASUS).

Honestly, the ASUS DCU II 780 is hands down the best card I've seen. I've got a stock 780 (MSI), when my friend asked me to spec his build, I got him a DCU II 780.

Mine runs about 77C with modified fan profile, 980MHz boost, stock memory.
His ran at 77C with modified fan profile, 1250MHz boost, 7000MHz memory, no issues at all.

Thing is a monster, starts with a pretty meh factory OC, but they all seem to be able to OC like beasts. (Read about 5 reviews with similar results, insane OC ability)
It's also cheaper than the EVGA alternatives and not much more than the MSI ones.

If I could pick all over again, I'd get an ASUS card or EVGA if I'm going SLI.
If I was going to WC, then probably ASUS. (unless I decided I was too lazy to put the block on and buy a EVGA classified hydro :P)

ASUS is most solid brand I've come across so far.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Boerenlater on August 09, 2014, 08:33:34 pm
So this is where all Molly's money went.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Panos_ on August 09, 2014, 09:24:07 pm
for those who wonder, this is the rig I finally got.



x
1x
Carbide 200R Gaming case (Midi Tower, Black)
57.90€
x
1x
VS Series 650W (CP-9020051-EU)
64.50€
x
1x
CPU Core i5-4440 (1150,3.1GHz/6Mb)
155.90€
x
2x
FAN 120MM Black
9.80€
x
1x
Z97M D3H (1150/Z97/DDR3)
114.30€
x
1x
Ram DDR3 8GB kit 1600MHz Ballistix Sport XT
78.90€
x
1x
VGA PCI-X Nvidia GTΧ 750Ti 2Gb OC
154.90€
x
1x
SDSSDP-064G-G25 64GB SSD (2.5", Sata 6Gb/s)
45.90€
x
1x
Set Windows 8.1 64bit Greek/Eng OEM
99.00

the total cost is
781.10€


I decided to save some money up and not spent it all in a gaming rig, anyhow, I know its mediocre/somewhat good, but it will do the job I think,  8-)
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Thryn on August 09, 2014, 09:32:21 pm
Don't buy Intel you are funding international zionism

dont buy amd its shit
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on August 09, 2014, 10:07:12 pm
Panos, I expect you will want ditch that 750Ti in less than a year.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Panos_ on August 09, 2014, 10:29:15 pm
Panos, I expect you will want ditch that 750Ti in less than a year.

 how come?
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Boerenlater on August 10, 2014, 01:40:46 am
Did I miss something or are you going to use the Intel stock cooler?
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Erebosaither on August 10, 2014, 01:54:17 am
i'm gonna buy this what do u think guys http://www.monsternotebook.com.tr/urun_detay.aspx?urn=463569&kat=6453&lang=tr-TR#.U-a0Wfl_ui9 (http://www.monsternotebook.com.tr/urun_detay.aspx?urn=463569&kat=6453&lang=tr-TR#.U-a0Wfl_ui9)

u can press " ürün özellikleri" bottom of  the page for specs..  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 10, 2014, 04:00:15 am
Panos, I expect you will want ditch that 750Ti in less than a year.
how come?

Because it's not that great (it's a low end gaming GPU).
It's one of the cards that can do 1080p, but not by very much.
As games get more demanding, you'll start to notice it will struggle.

Then again, if you don't plan on playing those games, no need to worry.
(I'm sure it'll be enough for MB II and M:BG)

i'm gonna buy this what do u think guys http://www.monsternotebook.com.tr/urun_detay.aspx?urn=463569&kat=6453&lang=tr-TR#.U-a0Wfl_ui9 (http://www.monsternotebook.com.tr/urun_detay.aspx?urn=463569&kat=6453&lang=tr-TR#.U-a0Wfl_ui9)

u can press " ürün özellikleri" bottom of  the page for specs..  :rolleyes:

It's got some nice specs, price isn't bad too.
880m is a nice card, CPU is solid, plenty of ram, HDD is a bit meh.
Pretty nice, not sure what the temps would be like in that case.

You'd get a better desktop for that money, but if you really want a laptop, that is a beast of a laptop.
880m is a tad slower than a GTX 760 for reference.

If you plan to do a tonne of gaming on it, I'd advise getting a desktop.

Gaming laptops run hot and die young (I have one :S), you'd need to clean out the heatsinks pretty regularly (every month or so) and check the thermal paste every 6 months or so (or whenever the temps seem to be really high).
Also get a laptop cooling stand, should lower the temps a bit, not too expensive. (And you won't have to place a burning laptop on your lap  :wink:)

Pretty sure that laptop is a clevo, so you should be able to take it apart relatively easily for cleaning. (Also to upgrade it later on if you feel like it, SSD etc).

Had my laptop for 3 years now, GPU died once just under a year after getting it, thermal paste had dried and cracked. Luckily the warranty covered it and they replaced it. I've replaced the GPU since then with a beefier one myself (no easy feat :|) and the RAM, HDD and CPU soon :P.

But I definitely prefer my desktop!



EDIT:
Just remembered, if anyone is buying a PC and can afford to wait till late september/early october, GTX 800 series should come out then.
Not saying they'll be much quicker (based on a 680 iirc), but they should cause GPU prices to drop nicely :D.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Erebosaither on August 10, 2014, 06:40:24 pm
Thanks for advices Senni!! i will consider those!  :wink:
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Panos_ on August 10, 2014, 08:27:55 pm
Because it's not that great (it's a low end gaming GPU).
It's one of the cards that can do 1080p, but not by very much.
As games get more demanding, you'll start to notice it will struggle.

Then again, if you don't plan on playing those games, no need to worry.
(I'm sure it'll be enough for MB II and M:BG)


This is the biggest seller of PC`s in Greece, can u build a gaming only pc that costs 800 euros and post the specs here pls?

http://bto.plaisio.gr/Machine
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Renay on August 11, 2014, 12:00:31 am

x
1x
Obsidian Series 900D
369.00€
x
1x
PSU AX 1200W 80+ Platinum Modular
349.00€
x
1x
CPU Core i7-4960x(2011,3.6GHz/15Mb)
930.90€
x
1x
Hydro Cooler Reserator 3 Max
109.90€
x
1x
Big Bang XPower II (2011 , X79 , DDR3)
379.00€
x
1x
RAM DDR3 32GB(4X8)KIT 1866MHz VR
359.90€
x
1x
VGA PCI X R9 295x2 8GB
1459.00€
x
1x
SSD 1TB Sata III Premium
539.00€
x
1x
Internal Super Multi Blue Ray Disc RW
85.45€
x
1x
Windows 7 Pro 64bit Greek/Eng OEM
145.00€
x
1x
TV Monitor 24'' T24C300EW
169.00€
x
1x
Gaming Mouse Ouroboros
146.90€
x
1x
Keyboard DeathStalker Ultimate
284.90€
x
1x
Speakers Z-906 (5.1)
336.00€
x
1x
UPS 1000VA On Line
299.00€
x
1x
Πρίζα Ασφαλείας 10απλή ALU10SP
24.90€
x
1x
Smart Security 7 (3 άδειες χρήσης)
66.90€
x
1x
Office Home and Business 2013 32-bit/x64 Greek PKC
225.00€
ΣΥΝΟΛΟ
 
6278.75€
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Panos_ on August 11, 2014, 07:02:12 am
6278.75€

thats a nice rig, but there is only one small tiny problem.


I AM A GREEK, NOT A GERMAN  :lol:
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on August 11, 2014, 08:50:21 am
Most Germans can't afford that either.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Panos_ on August 11, 2014, 08:59:21 am

This is the biggest seller of PC`s in Greece, can u build a gaming only pc that costs 800 euros and post the specs here pls?

http://bto.plaisio.gr/Machine


kafein, can you make one pls?


keep in mind that I already have a hard drive thats 1tb from my previous pc.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: F i n on August 11, 2014, 01:15:28 pm
Panos we already told you what to buy. Now shut up and buy it!
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Prpavi on August 11, 2014, 01:23:20 pm
if you bought that gpu, you failed sry, you will have to uprade in a year at most
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: F i n on August 11, 2014, 01:33:45 pm
if you bought that gpu, you failed sry, you will have to uprade in a year at most

Agreed :(


770 u Imbicile! :(


Btw: palit cards are quite awesome too. I've got the 770 Jetstream, the 4gb version. And it kicks ass + is absolutely low temp.

this one http://www.palit.biz/palit/vgapro.php?id=2172


Playing games like Arma 3 on highest at 1080 ~ 50 Frames
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Thryn on August 11, 2014, 04:30:58 pm
I AM A GREEK, NOT A GERMAN  :lol:

http://www.originpc.com/gaming/desktops/big-o/
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Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: F i n on August 11, 2014, 06:36:31 pm
Sounds like a good deal. I just bought 3 for me and my family.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 11, 2014, 06:54:16 pm

This is the biggest seller of PC`s in Greece, can u build a gaming only pc that costs 800 euros and post the specs here pls?

http://bto.plaisio.gr/Machine

Trying, but it's PSUs are super expensive, no good ones either :|.

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The cooler should fit in the case (152mm height against 210mm case width).
No OS, no HDD (you said you had one).

GTX 760 isn't bad, solid mid-range card.
However :P, 70 more EURO and you can get the palit 770. (864.69€)
The 770 would last longer in terms of performance.

The CPU can be OCed to ~4GHz hopefully with that cooler (good cooler :P), so it'll be roughly equal to a FX 8350, again roughly equal to a i5.

If you can afford it, I'd recommend the 770 over the 760, otherwise it's a pretty solid build.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Vibe on August 11, 2014, 08:00:44 pm
Smart Security 7 (3 άδειες χρήσης)
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Office Home and Business 2013 32-bit/x64 Greek PKC
225.00€
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Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Christo on August 11, 2014, 08:08:36 pm
I like how you call that 750 low tier and outdated junk, when it's 10 times better than what my (currently FUBAR) pc has in it  :lol: :lol:

Hilarious how much this tech progressed.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Boerenlater on August 11, 2014, 08:43:11 pm
Indeed. 750TI is a powerful little card.
Fastest card without need for a 6pin or 8pin connector.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on August 11, 2014, 09:10:28 pm

kafein, can you make one pls?


keep in mind that I already have a hard drive thats 1tb from my previous pc.

I have this http://bto.plaisio.gr/Machine?state=1616498B22.9B1A1864505B54.9B1A2184923B218B1A1930125B89.9B1A2069571B109.9B1A2131269B17.9B1A2101025B329B1AD2014-8-11-21-05-20

I assumed you already have a dvd reader too. You could get a cheaper mobo, but I'll let someone more erudite discuss that. If you replace that awesome 770 with a still very good 760 you gain 70 bucks.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: F i n on August 11, 2014, 09:30:38 pm
I have this http://bto.plaisio.gr/Machine?state=1616498B22.9B1A1864505B54.9B1A2184923B218B1A1930125B89.9B1A2069571B109.9B1A2131269B17.9B1A2101025B329B1AD2014-8-11-21-05-20

I assumed you already have a dvd reader too. You could get a cheaper mobo, but I'll let someone more erudite discuss that. If you replace that awesome 770 with a still very good 760 you gain 70 bucks.

This.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Knitler on August 11, 2014, 09:37:44 pm
for those who wonder, this is the rig I finally got.


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Yeh, ist okay... i dont like the fact that u ordered windows8.1 ... i had to deal with win8 Abit when Setting up stuff for neighbors and shit ... and hell it sucks ... nice Mainboard tho.When is your PC coming? It seems mine will get sent tomorrow.

Heres my endsetting tho;
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Its somehow weird that i also have 650W ... sometimes it seems abit little, but im 95% sure its enough for me ;)
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Boerenlater on August 12, 2014, 10:26:03 am
I like Alternate.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 12, 2014, 05:45:48 pm
Yeh, ist okay... i dont like the fact that u ordered windows8.1 ... i had to deal with win8 Abit when Setting up stuff for neighbors and shit ... and hell it sucks ... nice Mainboard tho.When is your PC coming? It seems mine will get sent tomorrow.

Heres my endsetting tho;
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Its somehow weird that i also have 650W ... sometimes it seems abit little, but im 95% sure its enough for me ;)

Feel the powa!
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Renay on August 12, 2014, 11:44:25 pm
Feel the powa!

Here you can feel it. My rig:

22x DVD+-RW Double Layer   
BitFenix Shinobi Midi Tower (ATX)
Intel Core i7-4790K 4x 4.0 GHz    
Corsair Hydro Series H80i
16384MB DDR3 Crucial Ballistix Sport Dual Channel 1600MHz (2x 8GB)
6144 MB NVIDIA Geforce GTX Titan Black, 1x DVI-I, 1x DVI-D, HDMI, DisplayPort
Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 3 (Chipsatz: Z97/ATX)
1000GB SATA III 7200upm    
60GB SATA III Kingston SSDNow V300 SSD
700 Watt BeQuiet System Power 80+ Silber
Creative Soundblaster Audigy Fx LP Bulk PCIe
Windows 8.1 64Bit OEM


BE JELLY!
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on August 13, 2014, 01:18:34 am
By the way, high end gaming today is 4K gaming. Not including your screen in your rig makes you look like an amateur.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Renay on August 13, 2014, 02:07:26 am
22 Zoll/54.61 cm LG Electronics 22M45HQ-B 16:9 VGA/HDMI FULL HD (1920x1080)

There ya go!
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 13, 2014, 05:49:55 pm
Titan? I hope you got that cheap (780ti is better :S, unless it's a titan black?!?)

Pretty snazzy build nonetheless!

Mine is pretty similar, cept 780 and Z87 :p
Got it on release, what a stupid mistake that was :p.
No aftermarket cooler, terrible drivers for about 3 months and dat price QQ.

Trying to redeem myself by helping others :D


EDIT:
By the way, high end gaming today is 4K gaming. Not including your screen in your rig makes you look like an amateur.

I think I'd call that extreme gaming, aren't many builds that can run a 4K above 30fps.
I consider multi-screen setups or 1440p gaming high end tbh.

4K just isn't feasible enough for gaming yet imo.
We'll see what happens next gen, currently 880 doesn't look like a huge performance increase, but it may be superseded by a Ti or something.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Renay on August 13, 2014, 06:55:17 pm
It is a Titan Black  8-)
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 13, 2014, 08:10:27 pm
It is a Titan Black  8-)

Gief
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Renay on August 13, 2014, 08:18:08 pm
Give 2000 euros!
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on August 14, 2014, 12:47:30 am
I think I'd call that extreme gaming, aren't many builds that can run a 4K above 30fps.
I consider multi-screen setups or 1440p gaming high end tbh.

4K just isn't feasible enough for gaming yet imo.
We'll see what happens next gen, currently 880 doesn't look like a huge performance increase, but it may be superseded by a Ti or something.

Actually 4K gaming at decent framerates is perfectly possible today if you get a multi-gpu setup and sacrifice on some graphical goodies, or play the right games. At 4K, AA isn't that big a deal, cheap methods will work fine.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Christo on August 14, 2014, 03:43:03 pm
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Why the hell would you need such a monitor size? jebus
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 14, 2014, 05:59:42 pm
It doesn't have to be any bigger than your average screen, you could just use 4k to increase the pixel density.

Not that 1080p isn't smooth and nice, but at higher resolutions clarity really improves :D.

EDIT:

Been doing some reading while bored at work (no fire pls)

Seems one of the best PSUs to get at the moment is a EVGA supernova G2 800W.
Just under £100, japanese capacitors, 10 year warranty(!) and around 90% efficiency.

The other versions have some chinese capacitors, the kind that like to go boom :o.

The 1000W P2 (not G2) version is all japanese again, 92% efficiency ~£140.

Both very good PSUs, tempted to get one myself if I ever go SLI :D
(figured I'd post it here as there seems to be a lot of dead pcs atm)
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Christo on August 14, 2014, 06:02:09 pm
Right.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on August 14, 2014, 06:31:24 pm
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Why the hell would you need such a monitor size? jebus

It's not about size, honey
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 14, 2014, 07:55:47 pm
Looked it up, seems one 780ti can do 30-40 fps @4k.
Not what I'd call overly smooth, but definitely playable.

I take it back Kafein, Renay ur a nab get 4k nao.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Christo on August 14, 2014, 08:57:12 pm
It's not about size, honey

wtf Kafien
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Renay on August 14, 2014, 10:10:50 pm
How, senni? need a new screen?
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Panos_ on August 14, 2014, 11:00:16 pm
ONE WEEK MY SHITLORDS, ONE WEEK FROM NOW  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on August 14, 2014, 11:06:16 pm
wtf Kafien

you don't get it? seriously? what.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Boerenlater on August 14, 2014, 11:27:32 pm
ONE WEEK MY SHITLORDS, ONE WEEK FROM NOW  :mrgreen:
Don't forget to post pics.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: jtobiasm on August 14, 2014, 11:50:26 pm
Thank you great panos for this thread.

Going to get a friend to build mine once i have all the parts in around 6 weeks.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Christo on August 15, 2014, 02:03:18 pm
you don't get it? seriously? what.

I do.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 15, 2014, 06:00:00 pm
ONE WEEK MY SHITLORDS, ONE WEEK FROM NOW  :mrgreen:

Is this the build you posted awhile back or diff?

Also gratz! :D
How, senni? need a new screen?

Huh?
(meant get a 4k screen :P)
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 15, 2014, 06:15:51 pm
http://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/73365-amd-set-slash-fx-cpu-pricing-september-1/

Will only be £10-20 on the lower models, about the same in euros.

They will be releasing 3 more 8XXX series though. (guessing not as good as the 8320, but I could be wrong ofc)
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Vibe on August 15, 2014, 08:03:25 pm
I'm still buying mine :D (remember that thread i made about it), but it's finally coming close to actually purchasing it now. Gonna just use this thread.

This is the build I'm going for currently:

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comments appreciated
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Boerenlater on August 15, 2014, 08:24:21 pm
nigga drop the dvd drive, nobody uses that shit anymore
buy a 2tb hd, thats only like 5 yurodollars more expensive
and no cpu cooler? if you like noise and not so well cooling performance stay with the stock
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Radament on August 15, 2014, 08:31:10 pm
ONE WEEK MY SHITLORDS, ONE WEEK FROM NOW  :mrgreen:
Panos , remember....
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Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 15, 2014, 10:24:50 pm
I'm still buying mine :D (remember that thread i made about it), but it's finally coming close to actually purchasing it now. Gonna just use this thread.

This is the build I'm going for currently:

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comments appreciated

Swap the 4770k for a 4790k and the mobo for the z97 version. (if you haven't ordered yet :P)
Same price or may even be a little cheaper.
Also I think that broadwell (5XXX intel) will use the z97 1150 socket.

nigga drop the dvd drive, nobody uses that shit anymore
buy a 2tb hd, thats only like 5 yurodollars more expensive
and no cpu cooler? if you like noise and not so well cooling performance stay with the stock

Dunno about the 2tb/DVD drive, but CPU cooler for sure, you'll need one :P
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Vibe on August 15, 2014, 10:27:12 pm
Swap the 4770k for a 4790k and the mobo for the z97 version. (if you haven't ordered yet :P)
Same price or may even be a little cheaper.

But mobo is z97?

Swapped 4770k for 4790k, only about 5€ price difference and it runs on 4ghz compared to 4770k's 3,5ghz.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Renay on August 15, 2014, 11:21:17 pm
Z97X is the one I'm using, can't complain much :D

My PC is incredibly fast. Also, vibe, you really want a corsair cooler. And dunno about anyone else here, but I would always recommend a Nvidia Graphics card
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: jtobiasm on August 15, 2014, 11:50:17 pm
MY AWESOME SPECS
INTEL DUO @ 2HZ
ATI RADEON 6450
2GB RAM
VISTA
MOTHER BOARD IS UNKNOWN
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 16, 2014, 01:21:56 am
But mobo is z97?

Swapped 4770k for 4790k, only about 5€ price difference and it runs on 4ghz compared to 4770k's 3,5ghz.

My bad :P
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Renay on August 16, 2014, 01:56:50 am
Senni, if the 780ti can do it at 30-40fps, what can the Titan Black do?
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 16, 2014, 02:28:29 am
Senni, if the 780ti can do it at 30-40fps, what can the Titan Black do?

Same, maybe a little higher as 6gb instead of 3gb. (Also a little higher base clock iirc)
Is it stock cooler?
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Renay on August 16, 2014, 06:27:01 pm
Same, maybe a little higher as 6gb instead of 3gb. (Also a little higher base clock iirc)
Is it stock cooler?

Cosair Hydro H80i
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: vipere on August 16, 2014, 07:11:23 pm
I just got my new pc ! thanks for the help here !

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Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 16, 2014, 08:15:47 pm
Cosair Hydro H80i
nonoo the GPU one :P
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Renay on August 16, 2014, 09:12:28 pm
You can change your graphics card cooler?
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 16, 2014, 11:12:24 pm
You can change your graphics card cooler?

Well, you can change it to watercooled, but they come with different ones when you buy them.
Like, is it an NVIDIA branded cooler? or is it ASUS or MSI etc.

Also, 780 prices seem to have dropped, not sure if it's the UK only, but I saw a Zotac 780 for £320. (just under 400 EURO according to google.)
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Prpavi on August 17, 2014, 10:31:10 am
Renay you do realise your gpu is a massive overkill compared to your monitor, I mean 6gb for a 1080p is a waste of money
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on August 17, 2014, 11:29:17 am
Renay you do realise your gpu is a massive overkill compared to your monitor, I mean 6gb for a 1080p is a waste of money

Maybe he wants to upgrade his screen in the future, or needs a lot of VRAM somehow (graphics design etc.)
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 17, 2014, 11:32:29 am
Well, you can change it to watercooled, but they come with different ones when you buy them.
Like, is it an NVIDIA branded cooler? or is it ASUS or MSI etc.

On second thoughts, I don't think the titan black comes with other coolers :p.

Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Renay on August 17, 2014, 05:09:32 pm
Yeah, I bought that with upgrading in mind. I don't wanna buy a new PC every 3 years, I wanna keep upgrading till I am forced to buy a new one. Screen is easy to replace, might get a new one next year or so, at the moment I am very happy with how my games look. It's a huge difference when you change to a high end gaming rig from a broken laptop :D
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Panos_ on August 19, 2014, 05:59:55 pm
I`m thinking to replace to stock cpu cooler with another one, I have 50 euros to spare.

I was thinking to buy this   http://www.e-shop.gr/showDetail_main.phtml?id=PER.806760  what do you guys think?
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on August 19, 2014, 06:24:01 pm
I`m thinking to replace to stock cpu cooler with another one, I have 50 euros to spare.

I was thinking to buy this   http://www.e-shop.gr/showDetail_main.phtml?id=PER.806760  what do you guys think?

That one is nice but I'd rather skip the high end fan altogether and wait until you can buy a CPU closed loop watercooler.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 19, 2014, 06:31:50 pm
Zalman CNPSX10 Optima should be cheaper and will work the same, but yeah that'll do fine.

Just make sure it'll fit in the case.

That one is nice but I'd rather skip the high end fan altogether and wait until you can buy a CPU closed loop watercooler.

The difference is about 5C between a H80i and my Zalman CNPSX10 Optima (and I only have it in push atm, 1 fan).
Both are 4GHz 4770k (Mine and my friends)

I imagine the difference would open up at higher frequencies, but unless you have a tiny case or have the money lieing around, get the air cooler for now.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on August 19, 2014, 06:50:52 pm
Zalman CNPSX10 Optima should be cheaper and will work the same, but yeah that'll do fine.

Just make sure it'll fit in the case.

The difference is about 5C between a H80i and my Zalman CNPSX10 Optima (and I only have it in push atm, 1 fan).
Both are 4GHz 4770k (Mine and my friends)

I imagine the difference would open up at higher frequencies, but unless you have a tiny case or have the money lieing around, get the air cooler for now.

Liquid coolers do a better job at producing low noise, usually anyway. They also tend to be less bulky and do not mess up the airflow as much.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Panos_ on August 19, 2014, 06:58:46 pm
Kafein, I`m too much of a pussy to install a hydrocooling system on my own, a buddy of mine tried to install one and there was a leak somewhere and it burned him system  :?

I dont mind noise, besides I have my own pattern with egg cartoons  :wink:
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Alec on August 19, 2014, 07:45:36 pm
Kafein, I`m too much of a pussy to install a hydrocooling system on my own, a buddy of mine tried to install one and there was a leak somewhere and it burned him system  :?

I dont mind noise, besides I have my own pattern with egg cartoons  :wink:

I have to say i recently installed a Corsair h100i and it's a piece of cake. I had more problems with my modular psu  :mrgreen:
It keeps my i7-4790k @4.3ghz under 70c after 30mins of prime95 and it's so silent i've to hold my ear next to the case to hear something. (case fans off)
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Prpavi on August 19, 2014, 08:29:16 pm
I`m thinking to replace to stock cpu cooler with another one, I have 50 euros to spare.

I was thinking to buy this   http://www.e-shop.gr/showDetail_main.phtml?id=PER.806760  what do you guys think?

Had one, nice cooling for the price but the pins and istalling were pain in the ass and I ended up selling it.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 19, 2014, 09:51:21 pm
I have to say i recently installed a Corsair h100i and it's a piece of cake. I had more problems with my modular psu  :mrgreen:
It keeps my i7-4790k @4.3ghz under 70c after 30mins of prime95 and it's so silent i've to hold my ear next to the case to hear something. (case fans off)

70C?!?

It shouldn't be anywhere near that hot with a H100i, is the fan working properly on it?
It should be around 60C if that; with a H100i, even with that OC and prime95.

I did some googling, seems to be a common problem :O
Seems to be either to do with the H100i either not being plugged in right, or loose backplate.
Orrr, it might be to do with the 4790k overvolting whenever it's using the AVX command set. (Derpiness by intel)

Does the corsair logo light up when it's on?
And does the fan spin?
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on August 20, 2014, 12:31:38 am
70C?!?

It shouldn't be anywhere near that hot with a H100i, is the fan working properly on it?
It should be around 60C if that; with a H100i, even with that OC and prime95.

I did some googling, seems to be a common problem :O
Seems to be either to do with the H100i either not being plugged in right, or loose backplate.
Orrr, it might be to do with the 4790k overvolting whenever it's using the AVX command set. (Derpiness by intel)

Does the corsair logo light up when it's on?
And does the fan spin?

70C is a completely acceptable temp for a prime95 torture test. No real application will ever require that much effort from the CPU, so it's not like you are going to reach 70C every day. The H80i's fan was probably stuck at low rpm or something.

Kafein, I`m too much of a pussy to install a hydrocooling system on my own, a buddy of mine tried to install one and there was a leak somewhere and it burned him system  :?

I dont mind noise, besides I have my own pattern with egg cartoons  :wink:

Installing closed loops is barely more complicated than installing a fan these days. You just have to make sure there is a free fan slot in your case and enough space to fit everything in. A closed loop mean no leak, no stress and no headaches :D
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Alec on August 20, 2014, 12:43:51 pm
70C?!?

It shouldn't be anywhere near that hot with a H100i, is the fan working properly on it?
It should be around 60C if that; with a H100i, even with that OC and prime95.

I did some googling, seems to be a common problem :O
Seems to be either to do with the H100i either not being plugged in right, or loose backplate.
Orrr, it might be to do with the 4790k overvolting whenever it's using the AVX command set. (Derpiness by intel)

Does the corsair logo light up when it's on?
And does the fan spin?

I know i sounds hot :P i ran a torture test for 30 mins, max temp reached was 72, average temp about 63 on all cores. (realtemp) my casefans are low rpm (to lazy to setup a profile in my bios) and my room temp is about  25. The corsair logo does light up, but corsair link wont detect it (seems to be a common issue). the two fans are both spinning(push) the 3pin connector is plugged in to a fan header on my board (not the cpu one, cuz out of reach). The backplate is properly secured.
When i play games like BF4 on max settings my temp doesnt pass 55 (peak) and is about 45 average.
Idle temps variate between 29-33 on all cores.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 20, 2014, 02:48:59 pm
Ah that's not nearly as bad.

Strange it reached 72C though, I thought it's performance would be closer to a full watercooling setup.

Ignore my ramblings, sounds fine :P
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Panos_ on August 24, 2014, 07:06:25 pm
1. The day I got my green beret
2. The day I had my dick sucked for the first time
3. The day I joined university.


Those 3 were my fondest memories until last friday.

My life was changed forever, my sweet baby arrived, my own gaming rig, my sexy thing, my soulmate, MY FUCKING EVERYTHING  :oops:

Dayz everything at max = constant 70 fps
Skyrim with 250 Mods at max = constant 100 fps
BF 4 everything maxed out = constant 60 fps
Fallout new vegas 120 mods ultra high = 120 fps
Stalker lost alpha = 100 fps

I wont lie, I crieded a lot  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Renay on August 24, 2014, 08:08:29 pm
1. The day I got my green beret
2. The day I had my dick sucked for the first time
3. The day I joined university.


Those 3 were my fondest memories until last friday.

My life was changed forever, my sweet baby arrived, my own gaming rig, my sexy thing, my soulmate, MY FUCKING EVERYTHING  :oops:

Dayz everything at max = constant 70 fps
Skyrim with 250 Mods at max = constant 100 fps
BF 4 everything maxed out = constant 60 fps
Fallout new vegas 120 mods ultra high = 120 fps
Stalker lost alpha = 100 fps

I wont lie, I crieded a lot  :mrgreen:

But what about cRPG?
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on August 24, 2014, 11:36:50 pm
cRPG should be around 40 with dips at 20

Also could you explain that green beret thing
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Christo on August 25, 2014, 12:02:14 am
1. The day I got my green beret
2. The day I had my dick sucked for the first time
3. The day I joined university.


Those 3 were my fondest memories until last friday.

My life was changed forever, my sweet baby arrived, my own gaming rig, my sexy thing, my soulmate, MY FUCKING EVERYTHING  :oops:

Dayz everything at max = constant 70 fps
Skyrim with 250 Mods at max = constant 100 fps
BF 4 everything maxed out = constant 60 fps
Fallout new vegas 120 mods ultra high = 120 fps
Stalker lost alpha = 100 fps

I wont lie, I crieded a lot  :mrgreen:

Nice, must be really awesome.

I have no PC for almost 2 months now, so if someone knows how to appreciate stuff like that, it's me. :D
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Boerenlater on August 25, 2014, 11:31:47 am
cRPG should be around 40 with dips at 20

Also could you explain that green beret thing
He bribed some army officers to become instantly a paratrooper.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Renay on August 25, 2014, 04:04:19 pm
Why is joining university one of the top 3 moments of your life, panos? your life must suck
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Panos_ on August 26, 2014, 05:11:25 pm
cRPG should be around 40 with dips at 20

Also could you explain that green beret thing


Tested c-rpg with wse on everything on full, got 180 fps, then switched back to dx 7 no wse  :lol:  bad habbits die hard.


Green beret = Greek special forces, for some, its dumb that that its on my top 3 , but hey it was 9 months of constant training.


Why is joining university one of the top 3 moments of your life, panos? your life must suck

When I finished high school my future was really dark ( boy from the projects, dead beat dad, etc etc), to you it may sound dumb, but I will always cherish the moment I first join the university, because I did it, I MADE it.

I hope you understand..
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Renay on August 26, 2014, 07:58:30 pm

When I finished high school my future was really dark ( boy from the projects, dead beat dad, etc etc), to you it may sound dumb, but I will always cherish the moment I first join the university, because I did it, I MADE it.

I hope you understand..

Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Thryn on August 28, 2014, 06:01:33 am
[youtube]https://youtu.be/hKYgZmRnIsc[/youtube]

Why doesn't this work?  https://youtube.com/watch?v=hKYgZmRnIsc

the forums feel like being an asshole
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Thryn on August 28, 2014, 06:02:52 am

Tested c-rpg with wse on everything on full, got 180 fps, then switched back to dx 7 no wse  :lol:  bad habbits die hard.


Green beret = Greek special forces, for some, its dumb that that its on my top 3 , but hey it was 9 months of constant training.


When I finished high school my future was really dark ( boy from the projects, dead beat dad, etc etc), to you it may sound dumb, but I will always cherish the moment I first join the university, because I did it, I MADE it.

I hope you understand..

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Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Vibe on August 28, 2014, 08:20:26 am
[youtube]https://youtu.be/hKYgZmRnIsc[/youtube]

Why doesn't this work?  https://youtube.com/watch?v=hKYgZmRnIsc

remove the "s" from https bro
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Renay on August 28, 2014, 11:09:50 am
Yay, thanks vibey, my love
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on August 28, 2014, 11:54:58 am
By the way the easiest way to make youtube embed videos work is to use the share url
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Vibe on August 29, 2014, 07:39:54 pm
Panos, which CPU/GPU did you go with in the end?
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Panos_ on August 29, 2014, 07:49:25 pm
for those who wonder, this is the rig I finally got.



x
1x
Carbide 200R Gaming case (Midi Tower, Black)
57.90€
x
1x
VS Series 650W (CP-9020051-EU)
64.50€
x
1x
CPU Core i5-4440 (1150,3.1GHz/6Mb)
155.90€
x
2x
FAN 120MM Black
9.80€
x
1x
Z97M D3H (1150/Z97/DDR3)
114.30€
x
1x
Ram DDR3 8GB kit 1600MHz Ballistix Sport XT
78.90€
x
1x
VGA PCI-X Nvidia GTΧ 750Ti 2Gb OC
154.90€
x
1x
SDSSDP-064G-G25 64GB SSD (2.5", Sata 6Gb/s)
45.90€
x
1x
Set Windows 8.1 64bit Greek/Eng OEM
99.00

the total cost is
781.10€


I decided to save some money up and not spent it all in a gaming rig, anyhow, I know its mediocre/somewhat good, but it will do the job I think,  8-)
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Tore on August 29, 2014, 08:12:31 pm
why didnt you just buy windows for 5$ on /r/softwareswap?
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Lannistark on August 29, 2014, 10:10:51 pm
If you are not into PCs then don't judge, please. We're here to help. And having a videocard worth of 200 bucks on a gaming PC with a budget of $1.5k is stupid. People above pointed it out.
Also, Panos, blu-ray drive is a thing that you'll never use.

I'm actually trying to help by redirecting him away from enthusiasts who pay no attention to quality-price ratio and rather go for the fuckin extreme, mindless of budget. If I did offend you at any point, then, I'm sorry. By all means, carry on with your advice.

Surprise surprise, he didnt get a 1.5k $ PC, but rather cut it down by half. Perhaps people DO pay attention to money after all?
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on August 29, 2014, 11:57:47 pm
I'm actually trying to help by redirecting him away from enthusiasts who pay no attention to quality-price ratio and rather go for the fuckin extreme, mindless of budget. If I did offend you at any point, then, I'm sorry. By all means, carry on with your advice.

Surprise surprise, he didnt get a 1.5k $ PC, but rather cut it down by half. Perhaps people DO pay attention to money after all?

You really don't get it do you? It's all about balance and logical increments (http://www.logicalincrements.com/). Inside a 1.5k rig, 200 euros for the GPU is on the cheap side, which means that the user would get a better experience by spending more on the GPU and less on the rest (downgrade CPU, PSU, case and whatnot). Inside a 700 euro rig, 200 euros for the GPU is reasonable.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Vibe on August 30, 2014, 12:00:38 am
kiiss me rbor
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Panos_ on August 30, 2014, 06:52:26 am
Surprise surprise, he didnt get a 1.5k $ PC, but rather cut it down by half. Perhaps people DO pay attention to money after all?

well, I decided to spend the rest on a second language, clothing and some whey protein.

I did that because I`m a player that cares more than the gameplay, rather than the graphics of a game (hence why I love c-rpg that much).

Besides, the games I wanted to play, run really really smooth with no fps lag at all.


I get 50 fps in Berezino and other cities for example  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: ThePoopy on August 30, 2014, 01:54:26 pm
my turn

http://www.netonnet.se/Customer/SharedList/16272
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Vibe on August 30, 2014, 02:07:03 pm
my turn

http://www.netonnet.se/Customer/SharedList/16272

Since I've done a lot of research on parts lately, I guess I can provide some feedback as well.

RAM - your ram has 2400 Mhz and CL11, if it's for gaming you're better off with 1600/CL9
SSD - Not sure what the prices are where you're buying, but Crucial MX100's are the same SSDs but slightly cheaper
Rest is more or less preference I guess. Are you going to overclock? Because if not I think you can get a cheaper mobo.

This is what I in the end went with myself, I think it's a really good price/performance ratio setup:
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Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: ThePoopy on August 30, 2014, 03:42:41 pm
but crucial has half writing speed, maybe that doesn't matter?
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Christo on August 30, 2014, 04:35:12 pm
logical increments (http://www.logicalincrements.com/)

That website is super helpful to see things from a better perspective. Thank you much  :wink:

Nice to see how much I'd need to make my PC functional by getting some new stuff where it's needed. I could salvage the old VGA, 4GB DDR3, a cooler, HDD, maybe even case. etc

Sure it wouldn't be awesome, but it would be operational, for the time being!
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: ThePoopy on August 31, 2014, 10:09:40 am
updated
 
http://www.netonnet.se/Customer/SharedList/16361

need help with checking compatibility and quality.
and 780, 4200:- vs r9 290, 3300:- + 300:-(power supply)

prices is about 10:1
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on August 31, 2014, 01:51:01 pm
updated

https://www.netonnet.se/Customer/SharedList/Delad

need help with checking compatibility and quality.
and 780, 4200:- vs r9 290, 3300:- + 300:-(power supply)

prices is about 10:1

That url doesn't work, maybe there's a way to export your cart.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: ThePoopy on August 31, 2014, 02:09:49 pm
http://www.netonnet.se/Customer/SharedList/16361
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Vibe on August 31, 2014, 03:02:41 pm
Going with GTX 780 now? I was deciding between GTX 780 and R9 290, but in the end went with R9 290, because they're so-so in performance and in some cases, R9 290 is even better (higher resolutions), while R9 290 is considerably cheaper.

http://www.techspot.com/review/736-amd-radeon-r9-290/page9.html

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Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on August 31, 2014, 03:11:11 pm
But... but physx :(
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Renay on August 31, 2014, 05:55:17 pm
well, I decided to spend the rest on a second language, clothing and some whey protein.

I did that because I`m a player that cares more than the gameplay, rather than the graphics of a game (hence why I love c-rpg that much).

You contradict yourself, cRPG sucks.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on August 31, 2014, 07:07:49 pm
Seems solid polepoop.

SSD wise, Samsung evo is the best performance/price atm.
Every other brand seems to suffer from failures way too often to consider them atm.

They are getting better, but I'd just recommend samsung until I see some positive longevity data on the others.

The gtx 780 should drop in price soon.
If my sources are right, they gtx 880 should be unveiled 19th of sept. (Released a couple weeks later)

EDIT:
If you plan on 2 GPUS in the future, stick with gtx 780.
If you don't, then the R9 290 (sapphire Tri-X) will save you some money and run just as fast in most cases.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: jtobiasm on October 02, 2014, 04:08:17 pm
I need some help, next week I'm going to be ordering my PC parts.

I'm going to have a i5 4690k + GTX 770

Can anyone recommend a decent motherboard please also what GTX 770 do you recommend?

One last question, will the stock CPU cooler be good enough? I'm not going to overclock yet as I can't afford a decent CPU cooler.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Leshma on October 02, 2014, 04:28:39 pm
I'm going to have a i5 4690k + GTX 970

fixed

edit: this looks like a good deal -> http://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-gtx970-g1-gaming-z97p-d3-motherboard-bundle
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: jtobiasm on October 02, 2014, 05:06:55 pm
fixed

edit: this looks like a good deal -> http://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-gtx970-g1-gaming-z97p-d3-motherboard-bundle

Motherboard doesn't look aesthetic enough

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on October 02, 2014, 05:51:34 pm
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-evga-gtx-970-acx-20-7010mhz-gddr5-gpu-1050mhz-boost-1178mhz-1664-cores-1x-dp-1x-dvi-d-i-1x-hdmi
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-z97-k-intel-z97-s1150-ddr3-pcie-30-%28x16%29-quad-crossfirex-d-sub-dvi-hdmi-atx

EVGA / ASUS are the best brands nvidia wise imo.
I prefer ASUS, the DCU II cooling and their binning of the chips is awesome. (The ASUS 970 is on preorder on scan & Overclockers :/)

Stock intel cooler isn't great, these aren't expensive and are great.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zalman-CNPS10X-PERFORMA-High-Performance-Cooler/dp/B00350O5DK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412264981&sr=8-1&keywords=zalman+cnps10x+performa
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-120mm/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412264963&sr=8-1&keywords=hyper+evo+212

Evo is thinner, I'd go for the zalman tbh.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: jtobiasm on October 02, 2014, 06:12:31 pm
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-evga-gtx-970-acx-20-7010mhz-gddr5-gpu-1050mhz-boost-1178mhz-1664-cores-1x-dp-1x-dvi-d-i-1x-hdmi


Sorry to bug you, but I asked for GTX 770 not 970. I blame leshma though ;)

Thinking of getting this one today, this is currently £30 off.

http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/MSI+Twin+FrozR+GeForce+GTX+770+OC+2048MB+GDDR5+Graphics+Card+%2B+FREE+BORDERLANDS+PRE-SEQUEL+GAME%21+?productId=55901

 Would you reccomend the MSI or the ASUS  GTX 770?
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on October 03, 2014, 11:20:57 pm
They should be similar in price, I guess not with the recent price drop.
970 can OC to 780ti levels, 770 is much, much worse.

(Twin frozr isn't that great, it won't OC that well, but it will run quite and cool)
Wouldn't recommend getting a 770 at this point.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: lombardsoup on October 03, 2014, 11:31:12 pm
Just pony up for the GTX 970.  I'd offer you my old R9 270 but this AMD shit is pretty slow compared to the new NVIDIA cards
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: jtobiasm on October 04, 2014, 12:49:40 am
I guess I've fucked up lads but thanks a lot for the help in the thread.

I only had a £800 budget as I'm going on holiday to Thailand just after Christmas so I need save dat $$$

Here's what I've bought after looking at this thread, I got the things a few have recommended (CPU, CPU Cooler and motherboard).
How long do you guys think it'll be till I need to get a whole new system? 2-3 years?
(click to show/hide)

Price is Ex VAT
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on October 04, 2014, 02:27:26 pm
Well with that system, you could get a new PSU and another 770 down the line, if you noticed it lacking powa.

Only thing I see going wrong with that build in 2-3 years is the PSU, everything else should last.
Good news is it probably won't take out your system when it goes :P. (Had a VX for about 2 years before it went gracefully)

Should be a steady 1080p machine for atleast 2-3 years.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: jtobiasm on October 04, 2014, 02:56:15 pm
Well with that system, you could get a new PSU and another 770 down the line, if you noticed it lacking powa.

Only thing I see going wrong with that build in 2-3 years is the PSU, everything else should last.
Good news is it probably won't take out your system when it goes :P. (Had a VX for about 2 years before it went gracefully)

Should be a steady 1080p machine for atleast 2-3 years.

Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: jtobiasm on December 12, 2014, 04:34:42 am
A noob question for anyone with a H80i.
What setting are you using in corsair link and what temps are you getting at max?
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on December 13, 2014, 01:56:46 am
Well with that system, you could get a new PSU and another 770 down the line, if you noticed it lacking powa.

Only thing I see going wrong with that build in 2-3 years is the PSU, everything else should last.
Good news is it probably won't take out your system when it goes :P. (Had a VX for about 2 years before it went gracefully)

Should be a steady 1080p machine for atleast 2-3 years.

I just doubled down on my 760 GTX (I had a EVGA ACX, the new one is an EVGA FTW), still holding nicely with "only" a 720W PSU. Currently running Dishonored at more than 60FPS constant in 4K DSR. Of course DSR is very silly, I'm going to buy a high res screen soon enough.


A noob question for anyone with a H80i.
What setting are you using in corsair link and what temps are you getting at max?


"max" depends on what CPU you have and what kind of OC is used. 80C should be where the CPU starts slowing down and the fans turn a maximum RPM if you want to be safe.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Kafein on February 25, 2015, 04:29:21 pm
Bumping this because I finally bought a new screen (http://www.asus.com/Monitors/ROG_SWIFT_PG278Q). It's true what they say: G-Sync changes your life.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Senni__Ti on February 25, 2015, 04:55:15 pm
I just doubled down on my 760 GTX (I had a EVGA ACX, the new one is an EVGA FTW), still holding nicely with "only" a 720W PSU. Currently running Dishonored at more than 60FPS constant in 4K DSR. Of course DSR is very silly, I'm going to buy a high res screen soon enough.
760s are a different kettle of fish to the higher tier GPUs, the 760s have awesome efficiency.
770s or 780s and I'd suggest a more powerful PSU. (970 SLI would probably be fine with 720W, 980 would be iffy)

Bumping this because I finally bought a new screen (http://www.asus.com/Monitors/ROG_SWIFT_PG278Q). It's true what they say: G-Sync changes your life.

I've only heard good things :D
Shame it's a lock-in to Nvidia though.
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: darmaster on February 25, 2015, 04:56:57 pm
i have a dream where one day nvidia and intel will burn
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: Christo on February 25, 2015, 06:11:13 pm
i have a dream where one day nvidia and intel will burn

and then you woke up to the burning smell of an AMD CPU
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: darmaster on February 25, 2015, 06:51:33 pm
Gpu are even worse trust me p:
Title: Re: New PC, suggestions and ideas.
Post by: jtobiasm on February 26, 2015, 01:16:29 am
Bumping this because I finally bought a new screen (http://www.asus.com/Monitors/ROG_SWIFT_PG278Q). It's true what they say: G-Sync changes your life.
Holfy fuck I'm mirin.

I got a ASUS vg248qe just before Christmas and it's a huge difference from using a 1280x1024 60Hz monitor.