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Title: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Haramir on August 13, 2015, 05:00:39 am
Occitan, the name in itself resound of glory, of great heroes who once fought and defeat the mighty Velucan Empire.

Haramir, one of the last Occitan commander, remember of this golden age where Occitan could supply thousand and thousand of troops at the will of the great Arowaine.

Today, a dark age is upon the land Call NA, one where the few still have to stood against the many.  EU is preying upon one the last True American clan with fief with the help of some Na clan willing to prostituted themselves for german beers and cookies.

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Occitan is but a shadow of its former self, but at this hearth there is love for America and Freedom,

Whatever the outcome, We march into Battle!

chadz Veult!!




Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: njames89 on August 13, 2015, 05:39:03 am
Great to see. The HCE welcomes another great clan in fighting the EU invasion!

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Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Behemoth_ on August 13, 2015, 06:01:00 am
The French heroes NA needs
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Turkhammer on August 13, 2015, 06:29:26 am
Vive Occitan, vive NA. Baiser putes de l'UE! :evil:
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 13, 2015, 07:30:59 am
recent kd in this war:

Eques lost: about 200
Occitan lost: about 1300
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Captain_Skinboat on August 13, 2015, 09:22:02 am

Today, a dark age is upon the land Call NA, one where the few still have to stood against the many.  EU is preying upon one the last True American clan with fief with the help of some Na clan willing to prostituted themselves for german beers and cookies.


If you are going to pretend to be American, try to learn the language first
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: bruttus on August 13, 2015, 09:34:58 am
If you are going to pretend to be American, try to learn the language first

They are more American then you would be.
They chose to fight for the freedom of NA, whille the most NA factions like to bow for theyre EU overlords.
I welcome them as Brother in Arms
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Thalion_Menelvagor on August 13, 2015, 06:39:17 pm
While I welcome Occitan back to the game, i also have to say that its false to say that we are bowing down to EU overlords. Before they invaded, we were faced with resisting HCE overlords, as Bryggan was pretty intent on conquering all of Calradia. I view it more as the original colonies having France come to their aid when defeating the Brits. I will always favor self-governorship and a patchwork map made up of various clans than a map united under the tyranny of one ruler. (Sorry Bryggan, still love you though).

This has been an interesting event in that it has shown me how much Canadians truly envy Murica.  Perhaps if they would import American guns and bacon it would satisfy their need to role-play american patriotic heroes on a medieval combat game.


Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: njames89 on August 13, 2015, 06:52:07 pm
While I welcome Occitan back to the game, i also have to say that its false to say that we are bowing down to EU overlords. Before they invaded, we were faced with resisting HCE overlords, as Bryggan was pretty intent on conquering all of Calradia. I view it more as the original colonies having France come to their aid when defeating the Brits. I will always favor self-governorship and a patchwork map made up of various clans than a map united under the tyranny of one ruler. (Sorry Bryggan, still love you though).

This has been an interesting event in that it has shown me how much Canadians truly envy Murica.  Perhaps if they would import American guns and bacon it would satisfy their need to role-play american patriotic heroes on a medieval combat game.

It is a fact you are assisting EU factions in attacking NA. We offered peace to you to defend our homeland but you would rather fight with and assist EU in conquering NA.

You guys may have been afraid of HCE but the fact is the fighting was even in that war before you sold your souls to EU.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 13, 2015, 06:57:14 pm
james nub
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: njames89 on August 13, 2015, 06:59:30 pm
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Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Thalion_Menelvagor on August 13, 2015, 07:19:15 pm
We are not assisting the EU faction in attacking NA. We are assisting them in attacking HCE. Very important difference.  HCE does not = NA. NA does not = HCE. This is the cornerstone of your entire propaganda machine, and I reject it utterly. We already attacked and EU faction to retake Shulus, because we wish to claim the Tundra fiefs (with the exclusion of Fidsnar). 

Lets look at your leadership. James. Canadian. Bryggan. Canadian. Arrowhine. French Canadian puty. NSIV... Trans-Canadian? I don't honestly know.  Mithrim, HoC, sJimmy, are all American in leadership and membership. Not sure about LL.  Brotherhood (who are neutral) pretty sure mostly American.  Berzerks... you guys are American too right? 

To say that this war is NA vs. EU is a complete farce. Perhaps the majority of HCE members are American, but so are all the other clans you are fighting. 

Freedom for NA is not having HCE conqueror the small independent factions that previously made up the other half of the map.  While I will say our EU brothers in arms fight well, they don't have the numbers to fill a roster for an NA battle. For them to piss-off every NA faction by some kind of imperialistic overlording of the entire NA strap would be disastrous. Doesn't matter how many armies they have. I have told Blackbird as much. 



It is a fact you are assisting EU factions in attacking NA. We offered peace to you to defend our homeland but you would rather fight with and assist EU in conquering NA.

You guys may have been afraid of HCE but the fact is the fighting was even in that war before you sold your souls to EU.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: njames89 on August 13, 2015, 07:50:10 pm
HCE is NA as you are and as the EU factions are not. Just more BS propaganda from HCE haters.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Thalion_Menelvagor on August 13, 2015, 08:01:37 pm
Ah, but aren't we all glorious sons of chadz? Where is your love for your brethren from another flock?  Where's your love for your fellow Crpg players? Oh, take pity on them Old King James, for their map is frozen. Have you no heart?
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Thalion_Menelvagor on August 13, 2015, 08:03:47 pm
Good point Hesky. to be completely honest we had about 2.5k troops when the war started. So we were looking at being overrun until EU arrived.  Seeing how many troops you have lost fighting the EU's alone, i think you probably could have overpowered us through sheer numbers.

So they are NA too? And EU are supporting them?

Therefore EU is supporting NA against you.

You keep saying that, but even after 1000s of casualties vs EU you still seem to have 1000s more.

Where are/were Thalion's 1000s of troops that made your war so 'even' before EU showed up?
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on August 13, 2015, 08:43:58 pm
On the battle roster for the next 24 hours alone HCE have over 2.2k troops engaged. And that's after weeks of losing fiefs and stalwart defenses of Durquba.

No disrespect here (i'll do that later) but there's no way HCE had even nearly an equivalent number of troops to you. Yet we've been hearing for months how 'even' your fights were before EU came and ruined everything. If you're in HCE and knew for a fact that you vastly outnumbered your foes within NA, then yes i'm sure 'EU ruined everything'.

Oh, there i go...

As a former HCE leader, at the time EU's came we had at max 2 or 3 armies over 1k in size and like 5 or 6 500 man armies. Yeah we had more than 2.2k troops, but thats not counting LL's like 15k troops at the time and I'm sure the Hounds have a ton of troops as well since they have 5 or 6 active players farming troops for them.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Haramir on August 13, 2015, 09:22:12 pm
While I welcome Occitan back to the game, i also have to say that its false to say that we are bowing down to EU overlords. Before they invaded, we were faced with resisting HCE overlords, as Bryggan was pretty intent on conquering all of Calradia. I view it more as the original colonies having France come to their aid when defeating the Brits. I will always favor self-governorship and a patchwork map made up of various clans than a map united under the tyranny of one ruler. (Sorry Bryggan, still love you though).

This has been an interesting event in that it has shown me how much Canadians truly envy Murica.  Perhaps if they would import American guns and bacon it would satisfy their need to role-play american patriotic heroes on a medieval combat game.

Occitan only plan on pushing out EU faction out of NA and control some fief to get back in the game, if you want to fight us we are used to being declared war by many faction for no reason
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Voncrow on August 13, 2015, 09:28:56 pm
Occitan only plan on pushing out EU faction out of NA and control some fief to get back in the game, if you want to fight us we are used to being declared war by many faction for no reason

They are currently allied to the faction you are declaring war on, but sure I guess that isn't a good reason.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: njames89 on August 13, 2015, 10:51:39 pm
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Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 14, 2015, 12:00:23 am
Btw am I wrong, that actually there was one faction allied to EU, when EU attacked NA the last time.

Dunno remember the name of the na faction

... pretty retarded faction though



wasn't it HCE? -_-
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 14, 2015, 12:00:57 am
HCE is NA as you are and as the EU factions are not. Just more BS propaganda from HCE haters.

omg you suck so damn hard.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackPanda on August 14, 2015, 12:03:11 am
Fighting you guys in the north is like swatting flies away from our face. Just annoying.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on August 14, 2015, 12:03:57 am
Btw am I wrong, that actually there was one faction allied to EU, when EU attacked NA the last time.

Dunno remember the name of the na faction

... pretty retarded faction though



wasn't it HCE? -_-

Don't think it was us. Holy chadzian Empire has only been around since like May I think(maybe a bit longer or shorter, dont have the best memory) and AFAIK there hasn't been another faction with the same name.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: njames89 on August 14, 2015, 12:04:57 am
It must be annoying to see people in NA waking up to your foreign invasion. Sorry blackbird looks like this won't be a summer war for you. Even if you conquered our fiefs we would never go away. Hope your troops packed winter clothing.

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Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 14, 2015, 12:08:20 am
Kalmar and HCE had an alliance if I'm not toally wrong.

Oh and:

We attack at times when EUs can actually apply, so I can actually accept players. Occitan attacks at 4 AM for me. So plz do those attacks at the weekend or stop them, or I will get a field army and attack u right where u are atm.

Oh and btw james, every important fief of us now is able to defend more than 5 attacking armies. Go. Try to get ur fiefs back pussy. Stop talking about winning this war, if you

NEED FUCKING 15 MINUTES TO BUILD ONE FORWARD SPAWN

learn to play.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on August 14, 2015, 12:09:43 am
Kalmar and HCE had an alliance if I'm not toally wrong.

Oh and:

We attack at times when EUs can actually apply, so I can actually accept players. Occitan attacks at 4 AM for me. So plz do those attacks at the weekend or stop them, or I will get a field army and attack u right where u are atm.

Oh and btw james, every important fief of us now is able to defend more than 5 attacking armies. Go. Try to get ur fiefs back pussy. Stop talking about winning this war, if you

NEED FUCKING 15 MINUTES TO BUILD ONE FORWARD SPAWN

learn to play.
The occitan field battle is in NA prime time ya dingus. I dont see anything wrong with that attack... If it was at like 11pm sure but 7pm?
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackPanda on August 14, 2015, 12:10:14 am
Kalmar and HCE had an alliance if I'm not toally wrong.

Oh and:

We attack at times when EUs can actually apply, so I can actually accept players. Occitan attacks at 4 AM for me. So plz do those attacks at the weekend or stop them, or I will get a field army and attack u right where u are atm.

Oh and btw james, every important fief of us now is able to defend more than 5 attacking armies. Go. Try to get ur fiefs back pussy. Stop talking about winning this war, if you

NEED FUCKING 15 MINUTES TO BUILD ONE FORWARD SPAWN

learn to play.
We were gear bugged silly german.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 14, 2015, 12:11:24 am
erm ok.

But james tell me:

Did u ever play allied with EUs against NAs?

Well I know the answer, but tell it the people here.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Voncrow on August 14, 2015, 12:17:24 am
Fighting you guys in the north is like swatting flies away from our face. Just annoying.

Too bad EU came in and ruined your guys fair war with these "flies".
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 14, 2015, 12:18:06 am
Too bad EU came in and ruined your guys fair war with these "flies".

So funny when they  believe their own propaganda finallyxD
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: njames89 on August 14, 2015, 12:21:52 am
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Citizens of NA unite! Together we can repel this Blitzkrieg!
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 14, 2015, 12:24:52 am
So u don't give me a answer on my question?

HCE did the same thing as wardens/LL/HoC is doing atm.

THEY FOUGHT WITH EU AGAINST NA.

That's why they called it backstab in the begin. They were allied with Kalmars, and than kalmars attacked them xD
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Haramir on August 14, 2015, 12:25:58 am
Kalmar and HCE had an alliance if I'm not toally wrong.

Oh and:

We attack at times when EUs can actually apply, so I can actually accept players. Occitan attacks at 4 AM for me. So plz do those attacks at the weekend or stop them, or I will get a field army and attack u right where u are atm.

Oh and btw james, every important fief of us now is able to defend more than 5 attacking armies. Go. Try to get ur fiefs back pussy. Stop talking about winning this war, if you

NEED FUCKING 15 MINUTES TO BUILD ONE FORWARD SPAWN

learn to play.

You are playing on NA side, battles will be for NA prime times so NA clan of all sides can fight
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 14, 2015, 12:33:04 am
I'm EU and if you think I'm here to play for ur rules u are wrong. bundle ur bags mate for a trip to eu.

oh and james, the only thing u have say to that is -1.

You are so damn inferior.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: njames89 on August 14, 2015, 12:34:37 am
As I have said before Blackbird you are a vulture. Lower than all. Real men find fun fights and don't try to prey on the weak.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulture
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 14, 2015, 12:41:45 am
Answer my question fucktard.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: njames89 on August 14, 2015, 12:43:51 am
Vulture

Birds that are seen scavenging on carcasses of dead animals.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 14, 2015, 12:46:07 am
xD you are so damn pathetic.

Just tell the people here that u did the same thing as they did. stop talking about me, start talking about ur own fucking faction/clan. You wanna be respected a little of others?

be fucking honest.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 14, 2015, 12:47:01 am
As I have said before Blackbird you are a vulture. Lower than all. Real men find fun fights and don't try to prey on the weak.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulture

lol u just called ur own faction weak.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 14, 2015, 12:48:20 am
If you are overhelmed now, get urself some time and fucking think about what u say, atleast once okay? Gonna go to bed now, have fun with our village guys.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: njames89 on August 14, 2015, 12:49:15 am
lol u just called ur own faction weak.

I said you thought we were weak lol night night shitbird. Get some rest you need it.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 14, 2015, 12:50:38 am
I said you thought we were weak lol night night shitbird. Get some rest you need it.

no u said that ur faction is weak. Exactly ur words. gn.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Voncrow on August 14, 2015, 12:52:04 am
As I have said before Blackbird you are a vulture. Lower than all. Real men find fun fights and don't try to prey on the weak.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulture

You say this yet you declared war on a faction so much weaker then you are. Sounds like HCE is the real vulture.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 14, 2015, 01:10:15 am
And people say Americans are entitled and killed the jews.

He's a Werhmacht Supporter, what do you expect?
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: njames89 on August 14, 2015, 01:24:28 am
lol whatever gets you by shitbird, and nice to see you havelle!

Voncrow are you talking about Berserks? Because you attacked us you moron.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Casimir on August 14, 2015, 01:29:36 am
Isn't Occitan the faction that tried to set up as an EU empire with UIF backing despite being entirely NA based in the previous strat round?  Hypocrisy alert activated.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Haramir on August 14, 2015, 01:47:07 am
Isn't Occitan the faction that tried to set up as an EU empire with UIF backing despite being entirely NA based in the previous strat round?  Hypocrisy alert activated.

Yes we had our time on Eu then you wiped us and we moved on, whats your point?
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: chesterotab on August 14, 2015, 02:11:08 am
Oh fuck I forgot that Acre merc'd with the EU against glorious NA legend Kesh earlier this strat.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 14, 2015, 02:13:10 am
Oh fuck I forgot that Acre merc'd with the EU against glorious NA legend Kesh earlier this strat.

all 3 of them?

If kesh's account is believed, Acre didn't fight for Kesh, nor EU.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: njames89 on August 14, 2015, 03:37:48 am
Just FYI. chadz foretold your destruction through heavenly chadzian symbols appearing in the sky just now.

The hour was just after dusk, and the personal guard of Old King James was just arriving at the battle encampment of Emperor Bryggan. Already two fierce battles had been won that day, by Viceroy Benjamin and by the new and steadfast Knight of the HCE Sir Bruttus. The morale of the men was already high when James spotted a startling sight in the sky.

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The light was nearly blinding, illuminating the countryside as far as the eye could see. Recognizing the holy symbol of our lord chadz James clutched his chadzifix and prayed. Seeing this sign James and the HCE forces became galvanized by zealous faith. The men knew the battles of the day had already been won. chadz had determined the fate of the EU armies.


Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Casimir on August 14, 2015, 11:16:41 am
Yes we had our time on Eu then you wiped us and we moved on, whats your point?

Well my point is that it's hypocritical to jump on the whole NA v EU rhetoric when you guys have done exactly the same thing in the past.  Especially now when EU factions have litteraly no choice but to fight in NA because of EU Strat being bugged.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Ufoinsky on August 14, 2015, 11:40:31 am
You say this yet you declared war on a faction so much weaker then you are. Sounds like HCE is the real vulture.
SOUNDS LIKE VONCROW NEEDS TO START GIVING HANDIES!
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 14, 2015, 01:16:23 pm
so we noticed in this post:

6 weeks of lies. EU sucks? Well that's probably y u chose to fight with them in the past.

James calls his own faction weak. He is not even able to answer an normal question and now he is mad as fuck.

EU vs NA? It is actually not EU vs NA due to the fact that Kalmars lost all of their troops

IT IS GERMANY WHO RAPES U. not even that cuz there is another german faction with 8K troops in EU but when they tried to come here they failed hard.

oh and it's not even NA. It is USA and canada.

And the funniest:

If you guys are in good mood, u write that we will never beat u, that u are great and that everything else but usa sucks.
When u are in a bad mood u write that EU is soooo stronk and u have no chance and we are fucking pussies TO ATTACK THE BIGGEST FACTION ON THE NA MAP (40 %) AND BRING IT DOWN TO 6 % IN 6 WEEKS

You lost about 45 k troops since we joined the party. You really proud of that? You are defending and we lost about 8-9 K cuz of the bug and still our kd in this war is damn great.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: bruttus on August 14, 2015, 01:21:38 pm
so we noticed in this post:

6 weeks of lies. EU sucks? Well that's probably y u chose to fight with them in the past.

James calls his own faction weak. He is not even able to answer an normal question and now he is mad as fuck.

EU vs NA? It is actually not EU vs NA due to the fact that Kalmars lost all of their troops

IT IS GERMANY WHO RAPES U. not even that cuz there is another german faction with 8K troops in EU but when they tried to come here they failed hard.

oh and it's not even NA. It is USA and canada.

And the funniest:

If you guys are in good mood, u write that we will never beat u, that u are great and that everything else but usa sucks.
When u are in a bad mood u write that EU is soooo stronk and u have no chance and we are fucking pussies TO ATTACK THE BIGGEST FACTION ON THE NA MAP (40 %) AND BRING IT DOWN TO 6 % IN 6 WEEKS

You lost about 45 k troops since we joined the party. You really proud of that? You are defending and we lost about 8-9 K cuz of the bug and still our kd in this war is damn great.

Are you mad????
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 14, 2015, 01:24:38 pm
lol why would I? :D I rekt HCE. I got 2 new cities and 4 new castles and already earned 3 mio silver with the taxes
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: bruttus on August 14, 2015, 01:33:56 pm
lol why would I? :D I rekt HCE. I got 2 new cities and 4 new castles and already earned 3 mio silver with the taxes

ow, sorry, I thought you where angry :P
O well, good luck
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: ARN_ on August 14, 2015, 03:01:53 pm
ow, sorry, I thought you where angry :P
O well, good luck
He is German they always sound angry it's just how they are, don't blame them :)
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: bruttus on August 14, 2015, 03:09:16 pm
He is German they always sound angry it's just how they are, don't blame them :)

Ow, Then it is true, I thought only the family on mine mothers side where like that ( They are germans BTW), but it is a common trait :)
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Bronto on August 14, 2015, 03:24:15 pm
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Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackPanda on August 14, 2015, 06:10:05 pm
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#EU Invasion V.2
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: ARN_ on August 14, 2015, 07:22:31 pm
Just to make it clear we(Kalmar) were allied to acre earlier this strat. We got wiped on eu by drz and came to na to make a new start. We had New Shulus and were trading with acre, but as we got attacked by Squids for doing that as they were at war. Acre told us that they were the best and that the enemy sucked but we soon figured out that it was not true at all. The enemy roster quality was always much better than ours but we were still able to win most of the battles(cause eu op). On the map thing Acre and their allies didn't do much better they are unable to do trading in a decent way, all their fiefs had the same shitty gear loomed to +1 and like 5% discount and one of our allies had 10k troops or something but only gear for like 1k. After reking squids Kesh decided we were no longer welcome on na so he kicked us back to eu with gear he got from a failed Grey order assault. This was great gear almost plate and so on while the rest of na still only had mail. He did such a great job on the forum making it an eu vs na war that even some of our allies fought against us :rolleyes:. After that Kesh went on to wipe two other eu factions on na, he even ended up with more troops than what he started with as he flag capped us in every battle. That is how you beat eu, by attacking them and rally all of na behind you. Not by sitting in your castle and crying that the game is unfair.

James says we backstabbed him because he still saw us as allies even though he and some other acre fought against us in some sieges by Grey order...

tl;dr: When James allies eu it is okay but if someone else dose it SHAME ON YOU! Also James is a failed wannabe Kesh
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Bronto on August 14, 2015, 07:29:29 pm
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Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: ARN_ on August 14, 2015, 08:38:59 pm
In fairness to James, who *wouldnt* wanna be Kesh?
I just say he failed at it :P
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: njames89 on August 14, 2015, 08:49:17 pm
You backstabbed us because get this... you stabbed us in the back.  :lol:
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Voncrow on August 14, 2015, 09:33:16 pm
So were they suppose to go around the NA map into Mithrim territory or around there, then declare war and attack you?
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: njames89 on August 15, 2015, 02:04:54 am
We have been through this before you guys attacked HCE when we were already in a full blown war engaged and fighting in the other direction.

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Stabbing from behind in the back, backstab.

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Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: njames89 on August 15, 2015, 07:45:05 am
maybe you missed it?

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Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: poonerplox2 on August 15, 2015, 09:22:25 am
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For those who don't know, this is the expression, "Beating a dead horse." It is an idiom that means a particular request or line of conversation is already foreclosed or otherwise resolved, and any attempt to continue it is futile.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 15, 2015, 01:54:36 pm
'EU backstabbed us, this war was so balanced before they turned up... cos we were winning'

some ppl actually really think that it was balanced! Owning 40 % of the map and be like "omg we soooo weak"
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 15, 2015, 02:03:30 pm
and fucking stop calling it a backstab. I announced that we attack NA already 3 weeks before we actually started.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 15, 2015, 02:16:26 pm
searching for that damn post, where I wrote it. Oh and btw the first players (like calamari and his friends) joined us 2 weeks before we were in NA.

be like

Oh there is a new faction called New Libere Equites.

Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on August 15, 2015, 02:26:15 pm
I saw no post saying anything about you guys declaring war until a few hours before it happened. But then again I dont read EVERY thread just 99% of them.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Casimir on August 15, 2015, 02:29:00 pm
But dont you understand? They *refused* to do anything about it or prepare, therefore it's a backstab xD

If Na thinks that's a backstab they've clearly never shared a map with Kinngrimm, he was a backstabber in the traditional sense of:
Kinngrimm: 'I have a great idea, let's all go to war vs Druzhina, together we can win'
Not Kinngrimm: 'Hey, errrr, Kinngrimm, where are you're armies? All our forces are committed vs Druzhina but I cant see your armies anywhere...'
Kinngrimm: 'Oh... they're coming...'
Not Kinngrimm: 'Erm... Kinngrimm, why are you attacking us and all of our allies from behind?'
Kinngrimm: 'Because of all the provocations!'

Eques are 'backstabbers' in the sense of:
Blackbird: Hey NA, we're going to be attacking you in several weeks, ok?
NA: NOONE CARES! EU my old friendIT
*3 weeks later*
Blackbird: K, we're finally here with the invasion force... Why is noone defending?
NA: OMG YOUR TRAITORS! WHY YOU STAB US IN THE BACK?!?!?!

kinngrimm was the best cos he took all the bad rap for our schemings.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 15, 2015, 02:36:03 pm
I saw no post saying anything about you guys declaring war until a few hours before it happened. But then again I dont read EVERY thread just 99% of them.

Narra joined eques 2 weeks before we were in NA.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on August 15, 2015, 02:46:06 pm
Narra joined eques 2 weeks before we were in NA.
Dude I dont go around looking at what faction Dutchy was in. If I had 1k troops per time he's changed faction name and color I'd have enough troops that I could lose 15 sieges in a row on a city and still have some to spare
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Dynamics_BRD on August 17, 2015, 05:58:19 pm
Dude I dont go around looking at what faction Dutchy was in. If I had 1k troops per time he's changed faction name and color I'd have enough troops that I could lose 15 sieges in a row on a city and still have some to spare
Dude Narra is owned by the squids so how is that Dutchy?
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 17, 2015, 06:22:55 pm
Dude Narra is owned by the squids so how is that Dutchy?

red herring is obvious
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: StonedSteel on August 17, 2015, 06:39:00 pm
Hi there, some lads convinced me to post again, so i thought i would take this moment to remind you all, this game, IS BAD for you. it takes normal sane individuals and drives them bat shit crazy.

ill start with anders, who wrote that every one hated kesh for creating UIF's in NA? which is true, and is what needs to be done, if you are actually going to break up the trade federations and have a real war. what anders fails to mention, is that occ/mb/dracul/frisia/ravens and now HCE are all one big happy murican family that will never attack each other.

so once again, ty Kesh, for actually treating this like a war game, and breaking up the RPing mmo trolls that like to play trade simulator.

it is nice to see occitan back, simply to explain the hypocrisy between HCE calling everyone back stabbers, while being allied to the biggest backstabbers in the mod, i mean if back stabbing is simply attacking someone while they are already in a war, Occitan takes the crown for King Of The Backstabbers, as i cant think of a single war they have started...plz refresh my memory as i can only recall occitan jumping in on a sideline of a war already started

and on a side note, do not lie, Haramir, you did not defeat TkoV, who grew so disgusted with the game and its community, they quit, thus allowing you to take their afk fiefs, much the same way, HCE built up THEIR empire, which they have now lost.

actually when you think about it, arowhine is the perfect for HCE, he is garbage at the game, thinks his clan is the shit, all the while doing nothing but rping a trade federation...still you gotta hand it to the lad, he prob wins the award for biggest canadian racist frenchman , the guy sucks more american dick than james and brygg combined.

thats all for now, cya around.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on August 17, 2015, 07:52:25 pm
Dude Narra is owned by the squids so how is that Dutchy?

Who the fuck said anything about Narra?
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Jona on August 17, 2015, 08:22:28 pm
Kesh was pretty great at being the strat bad guy, though. There was definitely some loss of interest without him.

Whether you personally view him as the hero or the villain of strat, I think we can all agree that he was necessary. That in my book at least makes him more of a "hero" since after all he kept strat interesting, and more importantly kept people interested in strat.

Who the fuck said anything about Narra?

In your post  (http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/occitan-counter-offensive/msg1160520/#msg1160520) you replied to BB saying that you don't pay attention to what color Dutchy's faction is on the map, while BB was talking about Narra joining him, which is/was the Squids'. Either way, who cares? Small typo/misinterpretation, move along.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on August 17, 2015, 08:29:11 pm
Whether you personally view him as the hero or the villain of strat, I think we can all agree that he was necessary. That in my book at least makes him more of a "hero" since after all he kept strat interesting, and more importantly kept people interested in strat.

In your post  (http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/occitan-counter-offensive/msg1160520/#msg1160520) you replied to BB saying that you don't pay attention to what color Dutchy's faction is on the map, while BB was talking about Narra joining him, which is/was the Squids'. Either way, who cares? Small typo/misinterpretation, move along.

The Squids apparently cuz they used it as a reason to attack me lol. Oh well I heard it was a good fight. Just grumpy i cant make em cuz I'm out of town
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Relit on August 17, 2015, 08:42:34 pm
Hi there, some lads convinced me to post again, so i thought i would take this moment to remind you all, this game, IS BAD for you. it takes normal sane individuals and drives them bat shit crazy.

ill start with anders, who wrote that every one hated kesh for creating UIF's in NA? which is true, and is what needs to be done, if you are actually going to break up the trade federations and have a real war. what anders fails to mention, is that occ/mb/dracul/frisia/ravens and now HCE are all one big happy murican family that will never attack each other.

....

Ravens of Valhalla as a strat faction is no more. The clan itself is no more. We disbanded on friendly terms. There are Raven guys in KUTT, some in MB I think, and a couple joined Dracul (Who also have not come back to strat at all btw, not sure why you are bringing them up). Others, like myself, wear the Dracul-Raven banner in the battle server to stack with our friends. I do not even wear the clan tag anymore (because the clan is no more...) I can not speak as to what the Frisians are doing, I do know most quit the game entirely or are off playing better games.

So my point in all this is: What the heck are you even talking about? Dracul guys merc for and against the HCE and Raven does not even exist anymore...

Edit: Also not even sure what Occitan are doing this strat, nobody has talked to me about reforming Ravens for strat  or some big alliance with Occitan (who were one of our biggest rivals, sorry Arrowaine I still love you.)
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: arowaine on August 17, 2015, 08:49:27 pm
We are not assisting the EU faction in attacking NA. We are assisting them in attacking HCE. Very important difference.  HCE does not = NA. NA does not = HCE. This is the cornerstone of your entire propaganda machine, and I reject it utterly. We already attacked and EU faction to retake Shulus, because we wish to claim the Tundra fiefs (with the exclusion of Fidsnar). 

Lets look at your leadership. James. Canadian. Bryggan. Canadian. Arrowhine. French Canadian puty. NSIV... Trans-Canadian? I don't honestly know.  Mithrim, HoC, sJimmy, are all American in leadership and membership. Not sure about LL.  Brotherhood (who are neutral) pretty sure mostly American.  Berzerks... you guys are American too right? 

To say that this war is NA vs. EU is a complete farce. Perhaps the majority of HCE members are American, but so are all the other clans you are fighting. 

Freedom for NA is not having HCE conqueror the small independent factions that previously made up the other half of the map.  While I will say our EU brothers in arms fight well, they don't have the numbers to fill a roster for an NA battle. For them to piss-off every NA faction by some kind of imperialistic overlording of the entire NA strap would be disastrous. Doesn't matter how many armies they have. I have told Blackbird as much.

you are totaly right here, canadian figth for America freedom!

Hi there, some lads convinced me to post again, so i thought i would take this moment to remind you all, this game, IS BAD for you. it takes normal sane individuals and drives them bat shit crazy.

ill start with anders, who wrote that every one hated kesh for creating UIF's in NA? which is true, and is what needs to be done, if you are actually going to break up the trade federations and have a real war. what anders fails to mention, is that occ/mb/dracul/frisia/ravens and now HCE are all one big happy murican family that will never attack each other.

so once again, ty Kesh, for actually treating this like a war game, and breaking up the RPing mmo trolls that like to play trade simulator.

it is nice to see occitan back, simply to explain the hypocrisy between HCE calling everyone back stabbers, while being allied to the biggest backstabbers in the mod, i mean if back stabbing is simply attacking someone while they are already in a war, Occitan takes the crown for King Of The Backstabbers, as i cant think of a single war they have started...plz refresh my memory as i can only recall occitan jumping in on a sideline of a war already started

and on a side note, do not lie, Haramir, you did not defeat TkoV, who grew so disgusted with the game and its community, they quit, thus allowing you to take their afk fiefs, much the same way, HCE built up THEIR empire, which they have now lost.

actually when you think about it, arowhine is the perfect for HCE, he is garbage at the game, thinks his clan is the shit, all the while doing nothing but rping a trade federation...still you gotta hand it to the lad, he prob wins the award for biggest canadian racist frenchman , the guy sucks more american dick than james and brygg combined.

thats all for now, cya around.
after reading you i really do think you are kesh girl friend account, luv you too

Whether you personally view him as the hero or the villain of strat, I think we can all agree that he was necessary. That in my book at least makes him more of a "hero" since after all he kept strat interesting, and more importantly kept people interested in strat.

In your post  (http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/occitan-counter-offensive/msg1160520/#msg1160520) you replied to BB saying that you don't pay attention to what color Dutchy's faction is on the map, while BB was talking about Narra joining him, which is/was the Squids'. Either way, who cares? Small typo/misinterpretation, move along.

i can only agree with you there jona, kesh was the best opponent to have and kept strat fun for sure even when he was being a carebear like we all did at least one time.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: njames89 on August 17, 2015, 08:58:10 pm
Great fights yesterday again guys! This war has been great for XP!

visitors can't see pics , please register or login


Where is Canuck when we need him XD. I saw him on not too long ago actually.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: HarryCrumb on August 18, 2015, 05:18:24 pm
Ravens of Valhalla as a strat faction is no more. The clan itself is no more. We disbanded on friendly terms. There are Raven guys in KUTT, some in MB I think, and a couple joined Dracul (Who also have not come back to strat at all btw, not sure why you are bringing them up). Others, like myself, wear the Dracul-Raven banner in the battle server to stack with our friends. I do not even wear the clan tag anymore (because the clan is no more...) I can not speak as to what the Frisians are doing, I do know most quit the game entirely or are off playing better games.

So my point in all this is: What the heck are you even talking about? Dracul guys merc for and against the HCE and Raven does not even exist anymore...

Edit: Also not even sure what Occitan are doing this strat, nobody has talked to me about reforming Ravens for strat  or some big alliance with Occitan (who were one of our biggest rivals, sorry Arrowaine I still love you.)

Speaking as the current Jarl of Raven, I can confirm only that Relit us a huge fgt.

~harold c crumb
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: cup457 on August 19, 2015, 09:09:18 pm
pretty sure there are no collectivized members of Frisia/Dracul/Raven playing strat. Im the only one who regularly plays strat from Raven. no need to bring up dead clans
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Bryggan on August 21, 2015, 08:32:04 am
This full-blown war that was so balanced and even again, we've certainly been through this before.

Let's see what happened in the war against the Hounds of Mithrim.  We took a castle, then they took it back. We attacked a castle, and they defended it.  Then they squealed they were being crushed.

And then there is the bitching about backstabbing.  There once was one fellow who got pissed at a faction for attacking a third of his armies (ie one, in which this faction only had three members), so he attacked LCO.  LCO disappeared, so after attacking and looting the offending member, he went on to attack the only active remaining faction- Acre.  Oddly enough, this gent used to be in the Acre faction, so this could be accounted as a back-stabbing.  Acre surrendered, so he went on to attack Sungetche castle- owned by Dutchy.  At the time, Dutchy was part of Go Do The Dishes faction: the very faction that caused LCO to attack the 13 Knight faction, cuz tey thought we were reinforcing their enemies, and GDTD gave 13K gear to deal with them.  Instead we attacked Dutchy, ironically with his own faction's gear.  The very essence of back-stabbing.  And then, after the Wardens gave us Yruma Castle, as a good sign of the trust between us, we went to war against them.  Hmm? Sound like back-stabbing?  FER SHER!

So please!  Don't ever accuse me of bro-coding or care-bearing.  I will fight anyone who feels like putting up a fight.  I was ready to attack Acre when I thought James was being insubordinate, and anyone who knows me knows I would have.  I only pardoned him of treason because he promised to behave, and since then he has been nothing but stellar.

So, and let me be clear about this, the only back stabber is me!  Me, and only me.  And yet it somehow worked.

So:  the gents that originally caused me to go to war are now my allies against this pagan invasion.  Is that so surprising?  I play this game like a game, and when I run out of enemies I find new ones.  But at the moment, there is no shortage of enemies (unlike when it was just Mithrim against me (oh, and LL, but without Euro support and Aussie NTS they just weren't worth the effort), I felt the need to declare war on the Hounds as well- just to keep it fair) so for the moment I'll try be nice.

So, to all potential allies:  I will be nice to the very end... er, the end of our enemies, then I'll probably turn on you (in a gentlemanly fashion).  Cuz, like you know, it is a war game after all.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Voncrow on August 21, 2015, 05:35:48 pm
Let's see what happened in the war against the Hounds of Mithrim.  We took a castle, then they took it back. We attacked a castle, and they defended it.  Then they squealed they were being crushed.

And then there is the bitching about backstabbing.  There once was one fellow who got pissed at a faction for attacking a third of his armies (ie one, in which this faction only had three members), so he attacked LCO.  LCO disappeared, so after attacking and looting the offending member, he went on to attack the only active remaining faction- Acre.  Oddly enough, this gent used to be in the Acre faction, so this could be accounted as a back-stabbing.  Acre surrendered, so he went on to attack Sungetche castle- owned by Dutchy.  At the time, Dutchy was part of Go Do The Dishes faction: the very faction that caused LCO to attack the 13 Knight faction, cuz tey thought we were reinforcing their enemies, and GDTD gave 13K gear to deal with them.  Instead we attacked Dutchy, ironically with his own faction's gear.  The very essence of back-stabbing.  And then, after the Wardens gave us Yruma Castle, as a good sign of the trust between us, we went to war against them.  Hmm? Sound like back-stabbing?  FER SHER!

So please!  Don't ever accuse me of bro-coding or care-bearing.  I will fight anyone who feels like putting up a fight.  I was ready to attack Acre when I thought James was being insubordinate, and anyone who knows me knows I would have.  I only pardoned him of treason because he promised to behave, and since then he has been nothing but stellar.

So, and let me be clear about this, the only back stabber is me!  Me, and only me.  And yet it somehow worked.

So:  the gents that originally caused me to go to war are now my allies against this pagan invasion.  Is that so surprising?  I play this game like a game, and when I run out of enemies I find new ones.  But at the moment, there is no shortage of enemies (unlike when it was just Mithrim against me (oh, and LL, but without Euro support and Aussie NTS they just weren't worth the effort), I felt the need to declare war on the Hounds as well- just to keep it fair) so for the moment I'll try be nice.

So, to all potential allies:  I will be nice to the very end... er, the end of our enemies, then I'll probably turn on you (in a gentlemanly fashion).  Cuz, like you know, it is a war game after all.

So does it make you a hypocrite or your faction members hypocrites for complaining about backstabbing (unjustifiably) when you had done much worse? Maybe both.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: StonedSteel on August 21, 2015, 06:11:55 pm
^ there has always been this great divide strat wise. between dishonest disingenuous MMO trade simulating trolls, and serious players that treat it as a war sim.

the former thinks everyone else is complete shit but themselves, are hypocritical beyond belief and incapable of taking responsibilities for their mistakes.

the latter makes no excuses, says gg win or lose, and owns up to their mistakes

basically, you have a few honest adults looking for a war game...in the exact wrong place, as this community is mostly made up of young kids.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Bryggan on August 21, 2015, 07:30:38 pm
It makes me an unapologetic hypocrite. I will happily go on and on about how when we do something it's justifiable while when my enemies do the same thing it is pure evil. And I find it sad that I have to keep reminding people that it is all propaganda. What's a war game without war propaganda?

But I always do feel bad about ganked battles, win or lose.  It sucks for both sides. But I should add a gank isn't just numbers. I recently outnumbered Thalion by ten mercs, so I asked everyone to play defensively so he could get a bit of a fight. Then I got bored and gave the order to cap flags. Well, the bastard fought us off and we only capped flags when he had 13 ticks left. That was a great, even battle despite us having way more guys.

But some people will always whine, and I just ignore them. Good luck and bad luck tend to even out.  But when we have good luck it is because we are the good guys, and when they have good luck it is because they made a deal with the devil.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 22, 2015, 05:08:32 pm
occitan is slowly winning! they got 2 villages of us now.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Zeus_ on August 22, 2015, 05:51:01 pm
I'm back from holiday! I see you've all been tending the flames on these threads till my return, what did i miss, how's the Occitan counter offensive been going? Has Kesh returned and put us on the righteous path yet?

The battles are going alright, but they would be sooooo much better with discount Kesh.  :wink:
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 22, 2015, 06:37:37 pm
btw heskey kesh too part in the 5 vs 5 :P I was in his team <3
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: ARN_ on August 22, 2015, 10:27:21 pm
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4785

Acre vassals are not welcome in the desert please consider that next time you move through our land
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 22, 2015, 10:35:15 pm
oh arn, we took his first army already :( Don't be so rude  :cry:
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: ARN_ on August 22, 2015, 10:51:12 pm
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4786 ...
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: arowaine on August 23, 2015, 10:25:27 am
nice head up arn!

Eu power in Na yeah yeah
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 23, 2015, 10:21:43 pm
again u lost an army without being able to defend urself. Keep this going plz!
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: bruttus on August 24, 2015, 09:05:14 am
again u lost an army without being able to defend urself. Keep this going plz!

Have to dis agree, becouse you attack at a very early hour for NA, and now NA can't fight back, becouse the website is down during NA prime time.
Thats not really fair, or you wanna take the easy way, and take NA whille they are a sleep.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on August 24, 2015, 09:17:06 am
Well to be fair I'm pretty sure all of Occitan works during the day(some people work on weekends too surprisingly enough) and with the site down from 2pm-10pm PST or 5pm-1am EST they probably didn't have a chance to manage a roster. Some gay shit i tell you hwat
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: bruttus on August 24, 2015, 09:20:55 am
21:11 GMT, or 17:11 EST on a Sunday. However can NA cope with these ridiculously early battles happening 'whille they are a sleep'?

Also, were you aware that when the website is down in 'NA prime time' it is also down for EU aswell? So it's not like Kalmar had *any* advantage to adding a roster.

Now please explain to me how these 2 points make any since within your post. If the battle was at 'a very early hour for NA' then the website would be working, but if the site was down this means the attack was at NA prime time. Do you see why people think Acre are just talking out of their asses when they bitch about EU?

Easy
Unionkalmaren attacked Occitan at 22.11H EU time, its about 8 houres of, so its about 14h in NA around that.
What you also say, its true, EU can't attack eather, so the 2 continents are stuck, but EU can attack before 12 pm EU time.
So, EU can attack in NA on theyre Houres, but they will have an defensless NA, during the weeks. so easy picking for EU
In the weekends, thats something else, but I have better things to do in the weekends then staying the wholle night up playing CRPG.

If EU really wants to conquer the NA map, now its your chance, almost no resistance from NA, becouse EU will support each other annyway.
Aslong if this shit isn't fixed, Strat  and CRPG in NA will simply die.

Do you really think that i'm full of crap? becouse i'm not the only 1 that is complaining, becouse i'm stuck, and if I attack the village that I wanna have, i have to do it during EU primetime, what for me a bad thing is, becouse every1 in EU, and even the NA Allies of EU will join the enemy.
SO i'm stuck, the only thing I can do now, is trading and building mine army.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Casimir on August 24, 2015, 12:30:37 pm
Bruttus weren't you in the battles yesterday?  If you can make it then I don't see why others can't?
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: bruttus on August 24, 2015, 12:57:40 pm
Bruttus weren't you in the battles yesterday?  If you can make it then I don't see why others can't?

yeah, I can make it, becouse I live in Europe.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Casimir on August 24, 2015, 01:09:42 pm
I thought this war was EU V NA? Are the other Acre & Occitain  members who made it all living in Europe?  It seems like a weak excuse for poor roster management and Merc organisation, something I thought would have been sorted th is far into a war.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Mr.K. on August 24, 2015, 01:21:10 pm
Two Occitan armies moving badly geared going through a war zone during EU prime time - must have been the rosters at fault here :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 24, 2015, 01:25:39 pm
he. has. no. point.

He only wants to talk.

And I'm just saying, even though we had some EUs on our roster, we still had more NAs than EUs and we had more NAs than Occitan had. Without EU, it would have been a 21 vs. 14 and we had 12 NAs who did not show up.

And Mr. K, I guess they did not know that we actually attack people in the open field. Seems not common to Acre/Occitan.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: bruttus on August 24, 2015, 01:27:48 pm
I thought this war was EU V NA? Are the other Acre & Occitain  members who made it all living in Europe?  It seems like a weak excuse for poor roster management and Merc organisation, something I thought would have been sorted th is far into a war.

Sorry, I don't decide about the roster manegement, but the battles that mine army was involved had manny mercs signed in for both sides.
Except for that capture of that village, but I heard the reason how it commes.

But if some EU players wanna join the war in NA, and they are free to sign in what ever faction, if it is Eques and the rest, or HCE, not only Acre, there are more clans in HCE, Then I don't mind to use mine army for it.
But I only do it, if the leaders of HCE are agree and that EU are going to agree to join up with battles or sieges without without being seen or accused that this clan or that clan is for NA or for EU. So, please be mine guest, Then I can orgenise batles for EU in NA against another EU faction, or NA faction, if they are willing to accept EU players. that during EU prime time.

Blackbird, and you better shut up, becouse I heard how you treath smaller factions.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 24, 2015, 01:42:04 pm
Blackbird, and you better shut up, becouse I heard how you treath smaller factions.

Hmm. Smaller factions. Since eques exists we gave EVERYBODY a fief who wanted to be on our side. If they don't want to be on our side I don't support them. This is a war game, not sims. The big factions rule this game and the new and unexperienced can't do shit on their own so someobdy gotta help them, me or the enemy.. I don't really care about that. And how does this relate to what I have just said? It's like you're just writing what gets in your mind.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: bruttus on August 24, 2015, 02:07:43 pm
Hmm. Smaller factions. Since eques exists we gave EVERYBODY a fief who wanted to be on our side. If they don't want to be on our side I don't support them. This is a war game, not sims. The big factions rule this game and the new and unexperienced can't do shit on their own so someobdy gotta help them, me or the enemy.. I don't really care about that. And how does this relate to what I have just said? It's like you're just writing what gets in your mind.

True, but painting us off as the bad ones, thats not correct, were fighting. So if you don't think that a small faction deserves to be neutral or trying to survive, says allot of how you see the rest of the factions in NA.
With other words, if you don't join us, you will be destroy'd. But its a wargame, and if you treath every faction with this attitude, it will become a simply trading game.

Now, I wanna do this, using mine army allone, to give EU players also the chance to fight, even it is for HCE, the faction that you wants to be wipped out, and you still find it a stuppid reason? Or are you scared that other EU factions that haven't involved themselfs in the battles in NA, would join oure side.
Or do you wanna cap the HCE area ASAP, so you don't care about the community.
So if I can accept that, that EU players may sign in, during EU primetime, without thinking that they are enemy's or that they are being threatend by you or any other faction for joining as merc's in HCEbattles, why can't you?
Its a wargame, but its also about to have fun in to a game, something what many people have forgotten. Especially you Blackbird.

There is 1 positive point in this war Blackbird, and maybe you haven't seen it, but from the 2 months that i'm back in CRPG, I saw in NA1 from 30 people online in NA primetime to 60 people online in NA primetime. So this war has actracted many players, old and new.

I give another excample, During NA primetime, that the server is back ofline, and you are just with a tradingarmy in a fief with 100% crime. I see that I'm still recruiting troops during the ofline period, so I suspect that it will happen that you lose all your troops in that fief, whille the site is offline, and that is on both sides.

and 1 more thing Blackbird, don't underestimate Occitan,

Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 24, 2015, 02:46:49 pm
True, but painting us off as the bad ones, thats not correct, were fighting. So if you don't think that a small faction deserves to be neutral or trying to survive, says allot of how you see the rest of the factions in NA.
With other words, if you don't join us, you will be destroy'd. But its a wargame, and if you treath every faction with this attitude, it will become a simply trading game.

Now, I wanna do this, using mine army allone, to give EU players also the chance to fight, even it is for HCE, the faction that you wants to be wipped out, and you still find it a stuppid reason? Or are you scared that other EU factions that haven't involved themselfs in the battles in NA, would join oure side.
Or do you wanna cap the HCE area ASAP, so you don't care about the community.
So if I can accept that, that EU players may sign in, during EU primetime, without thinking that they are enemy's or that they are being threatend by you or any other faction for joining as merc's in HCEbattles, why can't you?
Its a wargame, but its also about to have fun in to a game, something what many people have forgotten. Especially you Blackbird.

There is 1 positive point in this war Blackbird, and maybe you haven't seen it, but from the 2 months that i'm back in CRPG, I saw in NA1 from 30 people online in NA primetime to 60 people online in NA primetime. So this war has actracted many players, old and new.

I give another excample, During NA primetime, that the server is back ofline, and you are just with a tradingarmy in a fief with 100% crime. I see that I'm still recruiting troops during the ofline period, so I suspect that it will happen that you lose all your troops in that fief, whille the site is offline, and that is on both sides.

and 1 more thing Blackbird, don't underestimate Occitan,


1. I handle with factions in my territory as I want. If they wanna be there, they gotta join me. And yes, this is a wargame, so I do war. I got an alliance with Dutchy, HoC, the Wardens and kinda everyone else who is against HCE. Stop fucking talking about things U HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT and things u can't fucking know. How can u know how my relationship to jona, thalion or Dutchy is? Stop writing bullshit here, it's so fucking annoying!

2. No idea what u meant there in the beginning, couldn't understand shit. But: I'm a fucking diplomat. I'm doing no yolo charges. The ppl in EU who are not on the grey order side love me. FACT. I gave all of them a teamspeak, troops, goods and FIEFS. Everyone in EU but those ones on the grey side got their fiefs from me, even though they were defending them on their own we gave it to them. And greys support us in this war, due to the fact that hetman joined the HCE battles two times and saw how fucking retarded their commanders were. He wanted to send troops to support u guys, but then he saw that.

3. I have fun. Why would u think I'm doing this? I'm a german. I like insulting people, I like being better than others, I like being superior, and I fucking like commanding battles and doing strat shit. Y don't u racists know how germans are?

4. Haven't u seen that this is the thing I'm actually bragging about since it actually happened? I was like "NA, knee down and pray to the black god to bring more battles".

5. I on my own lost 250 troops by the website going down at midnight.. Did not want to stay awake till it comes back up so I went to bed.

6. I don't have to give a fuck about them. They are only doing bullshit. Lost 1000 troops cuz of a ghost roster and 1100 troops cuz they had no roster and they had no gear. They simply don't want to come back, otherwise Arowaine would not order 2 armies to walk through enemy territory. But lol Acre is doing the same shit atm.

btw james can u come back? I like argueing with u more than with bruttus.. plz! Do me that one favour :(
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 24, 2015, 02:50:40 pm
The Eques-run EU steppe gas chambers and camps are *not* real

(Blackbird I *told* you to make sure none of the small factions escape, now they're telling everyone else...)

no no heskey, new plan, I let them work in the NA steppe until they die *-* MUAHAHA. and fucking write smaller, so the enemy can't see it!
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 24, 2015, 03:02:46 pm
Sorry, I get carried away. As long as NA doesn't ask where all of Eques' exported fertilizer keeps coming from you'll be fine. Are my plants growing on Seljuks or HRE this week?

We had no HRE fertilizer for ages. Eques wiped them off the map winthin days. Was really funny. All of our allies were attacking drz and grey and we attacked HRE(Mr. K still QQs hard about that). Seljuks rqed after being rekt by drz too, but the new one from HCE is almost ready, gimme some more days, I'll contact you when they are ready!!!
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 24, 2015, 03:23:43 pm
Good ol' Eques.



so true :D

y u call me a son of a bitch, fu heskey, and my answer to that is "yolo" btw it's actually pretty hard to see that *_*
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: bruttus on August 24, 2015, 03:42:04 pm
Ok, if you wants this, and I was this good to ask if any EU people wanna join stratbattles/sieges, just becouse i'm the only EU player in NA with a own army that is fighting against the Invasion.
Thought to do a pleasure for every1, but it seems that you are impossible to talk.

I had respect for you, blackbird, becouse you did strat. sieges and battles on NA primetime, but becouse of the servers are fucked up, And NA can't orgenise strat.fights anymore at theyre primetime, wanted to take an opertunity for every1 to have fun in strat, EU or NA during the EUprimetime, asong as the websites are fucked up
And if I may from the HCE leaders, and I have enough support from EU players that wanna have fun to have atleast a strat. siege or battle, I will do it, but then mine focus will be at your faction allone.

On the sidenote, please underestimete Occitan, in the past, everybody did it, but they always came back.
Becouse I don't underestimate them.

And for your NA allies
I have respect for them, not that I showed it for them, but becouse to have shown chivalry to HCE
I have noticed how HoC has matured since I left, they may hate me, but that doesn't mean that I have seen how they patrol in the area's that they own. ( Was really impressed).
I have respect for the Wardens, just for how they reacted about mine post that I taked theyre gear after a battle, just a with a bandit army.
But for Blackbird, if I read your post, how mutch disrespect you have to other factions and the players that are fighting against you, say's enough. Against some1 with so mutch hatred against a faction that still stands after 2 months, with allot of enemy's on EU side and NA side, you are not really mine time.
Its still a game, but you wants to dominate it. Everybody has to suck your cock, and if they don't, they will be wipped out, and I can not agree with that. But if you wanna make it a trading game, be mine guest, I wanna see how many clans will stay alive when everybody is sucking your cock.

And the only reason why you have so mutch EU support, and that is mine opinion allone Blackbird, is that you are the only faction that have decent ground in NA. Many EU factions have try't it in all the previeus strat's, but none succeded. But again, thats only mine opinion.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 24, 2015, 03:49:37 pm
sry but I do not have enough time for that. Anyone else taking over plz?

more than 90 % of the active EU community don't play strat. If you want to try to get some and attack us, good luck with it. I hate besiegeing things anyways

oh and btw. we had NA and EU support even before we attacked something in NA. And it is my opinion that your opinion is wrong. If you can't handle critisim don't write here.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: cup457 on August 24, 2015, 04:23:23 pm
for the 4 pm battle only reason anyone even got signed up was because mr.pibb happened to be on and accepted everyone he could. The second one was just shortly after 5 so if it had not been a sunday (and im assuming your average person works 9-5) most people wouldnt have been able to sign up even for EST and the other time zones would have only less time to do so.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: bruttus on August 24, 2015, 04:27:43 pm
sry but I do not have enough time for that. Anyone else taking over plz?

more than 90 % of the active EU community don't play strat. If you want to try to get some and attack us, good luck with it. I hate besiegeing things anyways

oh and btw. we had NA and EU support even before we attacked something in NA. And it is my opinion that your opinion is wrong. If you can't handle critisim don't write here.

Yeah, maybe, but I know something what your allies don't know, and I have to keep mine mouth shut.
Becouse I received a huge rand about it, and apperently that this war that it is still continue, is compleetly mine foult.

Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 24, 2015, 04:30:57 pm
Yeah, maybe, but I know something what your allies don't know, and I have to keep mine mouth shut.

I know about the 20+ grinders in Durquba and the amount of troops u got there already if it's that what u talk about .

And YES Cup. occitan just fucked this up. Not our fault that we had a better roster. They just totally fucked up there.

.. wut... average person starts working at 9 AM? dafuq u guys doing over there? :o
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 24, 2015, 04:50:49 pm
I know about the 20+ grinders in Durquba and the amount of troops u got there already if it's that what u talk about .

And YES Cup. occitan just fucked this up. Not our fault that we had a better roster. They just totally fucked up there.

.. wut... average person starts working at 9 AM? dafuq u guys doing over there? :o

9-5/8-5/8-4 IS STANDARD HOURS. I WORK 8-4 AND KEEP CAPS LOCK ON ALL DAY AT WORK CAUSE OF WHAT I DO.(THOUGH I TEND TO WORK 8-5 OR 6 SOMETIMES) MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

40-42 HOUR WORK WEEKS. EU'S NEED TO LEARN TO WORK INSTEAD OF NANNY STATE IT.

ALSO, CAPS LOCK CAUSE I'M AT WORK AT FORGOT TO CHANGE IT.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: StonedSteel on August 24, 2015, 06:12:11 pm
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anders: plenty of us work 40 hour weeks ( 8-5 sucks, i have a hour long unpaid lunch i dont fucking need, would love 30 min lunch and get out earlier...but eh, i get what i get, such is the life of a wage slave. )
either way Daruvian worked about the same, and got more accomplished in one campaign than Asstrails ever has.

bruttus: you dont know squat about NA, and are, if anything, highly overestimating Occitan, who are useless without their side kicks and sister clan \ clans...( even still the great MB\Occ\Hosp coalition was never nothing to worry about, its when u face 5 of em that it starts making a difference, ) they are not in the "good at war" category, Hosp actually was, and they were solid strat folk, good sports too, honest and honorable

...the rest ( occ, fris, dracul, mb, ravens now hce ) belong in the category of: does very little, yet treats this game like its life, but whenever they lose, its cuz their enemies are no life nerds and suddenly after getting their asses kicked, irl shit is suddenly more important. nothing but dishonest disingenuous hypocritical bullshit, which is why REAL clans, ( FCC, TkoV, Squids ) dont want anything to do with strat no more.

Blackbird: they CANT take criticism of any kind and how dare you be honest and give it to them? like damn, bro, u've been in NA a while now...do you not know how this place works? its all bs and excuses here, take ur facts and GTFO. truth, dont mean shit here...silly EU.

and one more thing dear bruttus: respect, is earned. i dont see why a trash talking propaganda clan that, actually kinda sucks at the game, not cuz they are born terrible, but are made up of newer players...if they can beat there chest and go on and on...i really dont think its disrespectful in any way shape or form to remind them "uhh, u lads know u lost a city to only like, 500 troops right? thats pretty bad,,,therefore, u are bad"
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: cup457 on August 24, 2015, 08:10:09 pm
Plumbo why the fuck do you keep bringing up raven you dumb shit. And this is unrelated to my fighting with HCE. I wasnt with raven the entire time but we fought HoC and won. Fought Fcc for several weeks and we kost because we didnt have enough members to keep enough troops to fight. And you say dracul a d frisia did nothing despite them being in the same faction as ravens and a lot of frisia became gobblins and recked everyone with the millions of gold dracul supplied everyone with (im also fairly certain they gave a bunch to murder for his xp battles but i cant remember). You also say Occitan sucks now but do you remember early days of strat when mb was with tkov and they fought tkov and mb? I see that your forum account was registered in 2013 so i assume you just havent been playing long enough. Also in relation to the work thing i usually work around 10 am to 6-8 pm 6 or 7 days a week in order to actually make a good amount of moloney
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Relit on August 25, 2015, 01:09:06 am
...

...the rest ( occ, fris, dracul, mb, ravens now hce ) belong in the category of: does very little, yet treats this game like its life, but whenever they lose, its cuz their enemies are no life nerds and suddenly after getting their asses kicked, irl shit is suddenly more important. nothing but dishonest disingenuous hypocritical bullshit, which is why REAL clans, ( FCC, TkoV, Squids ) dont want anything to do with strat no more.


You know what? Fuck you, Plumbo. You do not know anything about Raven. Ask FCC, Hospitaller, HoC and Acre what Raven did last strat, I doubt any one of them will say we did "very little". Ask Dracul, Frisia, and TKoV, all of them our allies at one point or another, if we ever just sat around doing nothing.

And why the fuck is Raven suddenly hypocrites when we do not even play strat anymore? Fuck you for ignoring everything my guys did and fuck you for belittling their contributions. I know every single guy/gal in Raven and thanked them for every great or small thing they did for the clan, to have some asshole, who doesn't even know us, talk like this is infuriating.

Edit: oh yeah Plumbo, do you know how Daruvian was even able to do what he did? Dracul gave him 99% of his gold.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Havelle on August 25, 2015, 01:26:25 am
...the rest ( occ, fris, dracul, mb, ravens now hce ) belong in the category of: does very little, yet treats this game like its life, but whenever they lose, its cuz their enemies are no life nerds and suddenly after getting their asses kicked, irl shit is suddenly more important.

Entirely unfair. Fimbuvetr won a war against Hospitaller last strat, which led to Hosp joining Occitan. After that, we declared war on FCC. We didn't attack them straight away, instead us Frisians(I don't recall if the rest of Fimbulvetr/CC joined) decided to go over to Chaos lands and aid them with troops and equipment while FCC was continually gaining ground on them. After that we came and fought and lost a war against FCC. I wouldn't say we did very little, we spent a lot of time making trade runs and making strat battles in this game. I don't think there was a time last strat that we weren't actively fighting someone.

We don't do much now because that alliance(or really, the factions that made it up) doesn't exist, and most of us don't play strat, cRPG, or are in other factions.

With that being said, tell me about which big, relevant faction you were in charge of.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: StonedSteel on August 25, 2015, 01:35:01 am
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Thats nice, but its typical of you relit, i remember you. And im not going to say fuck you back, cuz i got nothing against you, you actually have nothing against me, its just the truth hurts. and you do tend to let this game get you infuriated...

Cuz im remember you, i remember ravens, fimb, war of the northern aggression, its still there for anyone to look up. i dont pull facts out of my ass, or make up things, i dont need to, the stats and data are all there. ya dracul did give away gold, and i know how they got the gold, and i know how much they had and gave away. and thankfully non dracul members like daruvian and murdertron put it to good use. i dont need to ask anyone anything about strat 4...its all there for anyone to look at. im just letting people like bruttus, who wasnt there, know what happened. as well as my usual role of correcting the bullshit inaccuracies i read.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Relit on August 25, 2015, 01:41:53 am
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Thats nice, but its typical of you relit, i remember you. And im not going to say fuck you back, cuz i got nothing against you, you actually have nothing against me, its just the truth hurts. and you do tend to let this game get you infuriated...

Cuz im remember you, i remember ravens, fimb, war of the northern aggression, its still there for anyone to look up. i dont pull facts out of my ass, or make up things, i dont need to, the stats and data are all there. ya dracul did give away some gold, and non dracul members like daruvian and murdertron put it to good use. i dont need to ask anyone anything about strat 4...its all there for anyone to look at. im just letting people like bruttus, who wasnt there, know what happened.

You insult all the Raven guys and say you have nothing against us? Yeah okay. You are pulling shit out your ass OR your memory is failing horribly. Ask any faction we fought and see what they have to say about us, go back and read the damn threads if you dont want to ask people individually. Let me help you along, lets see who did Raven (and later Dracul/Frisia also) go to war with... Hospitaller, Hoc, Acre, FCC, and very briefly Astralis, (also lets not forget our rather funny defenses against the Chinese armies at New Kedelke).

Either you are an idiot or a massive troll and I fell for it. Either way you are not telling anybody the truth and your are doing a disservice to all the people who did put forth some effort. You may not have anything against me personally but when you shit all over my friends, I now have a issue with you. So in closing, fuck you.

Edit: Apologies to Haramir and Occitan for shitting all over the thread, it wont happen again.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Havelle on August 25, 2015, 01:59:28 am
stats and data are all there.

I don't think you mentioned any stats or data. Like none. There were no numbers in any of your posts. I mean for all we know you could've

pull facts out of [your] ass, or make up things
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: arowaine on August 25, 2015, 02:04:43 am
I know about the 20+ grinders in Durquba and the amount of troops u got there already if it's that what u talk about .

And YES Cup. occitan just fucked this up. Not our fault that we had a better roster. They just totally fucked up there.

.. wut... average person starts working at 9 AM? dafuq u guys doing over there? :o

having outside life call kids work, hobby ???? ----- we play prime time na if you want a fight give it to the proper time we arent strat nerds anymore sorry
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: CALAMARI on August 25, 2015, 02:15:13 am
Let me just edit these real quick;

recked everyone with the millions of DUPED gold dracul supplied everyone with


Dracul gave him 99% of his DUPED gold.

ya dracul did give away DUPED gold

we arent strat nerds anymore sorry
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Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: HappyPhantom on August 25, 2015, 02:15:33 am
What is a Dracul?
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Relit on August 25, 2015, 02:21:37 am
Let me just edit these real quick;

It wasn't duped. Some guy they attacked (and later joined Dracul, weirdly) was carrying billions of pieces of equipment that when strat first came out was worth 0 gold. Later, the devs switched the value of those items. Dracul was then left with literally billions of gold worth of shit items. They immediately tried contacting devs about the issue. It took awhile but one did respond saying it was okay and they were not going to do anything about it this strat.

So no it wasn't duped.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Havelle on August 25, 2015, 02:27:22 am
It wasn't duped. Some guy they attacked (and later joined Dracul, weirdly) was carrying billions of pieces of equipment that when strat first came out was worth 0 gold. Later, the devs switched the value of those items. Dracul was then left with literally billions of gold worth of shit items. They immediately tried contacting devs about the issue. It took awhile but one did respond saying it was okay and they were not going to do anything about it this strat.

So no it wasn't duped.

Yeah, if you beat that guy he joins your party.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: CALAMARI on August 25, 2015, 02:29:09 am
I'd still classify this as duped

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Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Relit on August 25, 2015, 02:31:53 am
Duped implies they did it intentionally. Harald told them it was okay, they sat on that gold for a while waiting for a dev response. They did everything right, it wasn't till much later in that strat that they even did anything with that gold.

Definition of duping: to make a dupe of; deceive; delude; trick.

Or

to copy or multiply an item/s via a bug/system error
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Artyem on August 25, 2015, 02:50:08 am
Let me just edit these real quick;

somebody's a little bitter
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: CALAMARI on August 25, 2015, 03:26:31 am
somebody's a little bitter

http://forum.melee.org/strategus-issues/na-strat-5-'gold-duping'/new/#new
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Artyem on August 25, 2015, 04:32:27 am
http://forum.melee.org/strategus-issues/na-strat-5-'gold-duping'/new/#new

That's actually a really good find, wonder how long you've been able to do this.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: StonedSteel on August 25, 2015, 06:33:55 pm
OH NO!!! ive easily offended the easily offend-able Relit The Righteous, how is this possible?, he seems like such a great and mighty man to let his emotions be ruled by my words

...u uhh, arnt gonna rage quit are ya? not that u would do that i mean, u lads know me haha i just love to make stuff up about u and ur well documented history...shiiieeet all i really need, is Matey, he doesnt seem like the type of guy to lie about a video game, so when he says "you are one of thee worst people ive had the displeasure of working with" well, i take him at his word, for some people, lying just isnt in their nature. ( u remember matey i assume...u know, the lad u dropped off friends list...over a game )

ya i got nothing against ya, dont have anything for ya either, in fact, u remind alot of james, who is just like all the other "weshouldservebeer" racist frenchmans, who are honest ONLY WHEN IT SUITS THEM
who say things like : ITS JUST A GAME...only when it suits them.

the vast difference between weshouldservebeer and tkov\fcc\squids, is it IS just a game to them, and they are good at it, and honest about it, the rest of ya act like u live in some fantasy land and the mod is real life, and something to get offended about. im just being honest about Occitan, and u jump in on some "how dare thee offend my brethren, have at thee!" shit. jees, get gud BEFORE getting offended and i doubt ull be offended as much.

im just brutally honest is all, and im not brutally honest only to a select few, if my friends say wrong things, they can get some too and ill happily correct them. and if they do wrong things, ill be the first one to jump on them...like, i had a blast last night playing with HoC ( and some hilarious fucking tkov lads )...that didnt stop me from calling them massive racist frenchmans the moment they wanted to go all archers on NA 1.

but at the end of the day, it IS just a game, and the HoC lads laughed, cuz im right, ( about dem being archer racist frenchmans ) and if u weshouldservebeer racist frenchmans took playing the game half as seriously as u take the diplomatic relations of ur make believe RPING fantasy clans, the game would be a lot better, with a lot less dishonest bullshit. but eh...it IS crpg after all.


lol also.."you insult all ravens!!!" oh no. oh dear. what have i done?...u really think any raven but u gives a flying fuck relit? like i see mangler hungry upstart etc, it'll be nothing but hugs and laughs...but u?
i heard u were an older lad relit, grow the fuck up ya?
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 25, 2015, 07:05:46 pm
I really, really want to correct plumbo with lots of actual posts from the forum but I'm at work, and he's got such a big fucking stick in his ass that there's really no point in wasting time with him.

He's not even close to being on par with the shit posting, let alone able to type correctly and coherently enough. Just mute him, and get on with strat/crpg. No need to indulge an intellectually mute person who can't even make proper English sentences. Stop indulging him and just move on.

Also he barks a lot for someone who "doesn't play anymore."

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Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: cup457 on August 25, 2015, 07:37:56 pm
Jesus plumbo i cant tell if youre ignoring me at this point or what but raven never had any part of we should serve beer. And you are right ravens history is perfectly documented showing what relit says is true. And you call hoc archer bundle of stickss but you dont realize that matey has been a huge agi pussy boi since forever with his unbreaking shield. Also you seem to forget but ravens were friends with fcc up until right before we went to war with them. You call mb trash but they were a part of the tkov strat faction back when tkov was a huge empire. You say fcc treats this game like it is a game but then earlier you say matey deleted relit off his friends list so obviously matey doesnt treat it like a game. When i get home ill find these cold hards facts for you. Ps even though i can actually understand what you are trying to say, your grammar is still a clusterfuck
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on August 25, 2015, 08:40:53 pm
hello

plumbo it is often difficult to determine the period of time that you're referring to, and sometimes even who/what the fuck you're talking about

ravens did plenty in strat 4, i was there m8, they were nearly as big of no-life nerds as me for fuck sake

a lot of them were waking up for shit-time battles, spending hours in TS poring over nerd-intelligence and strategy, same with Artyem. some of dracul was mighty useful in battles, but they were significantly smaller in population than the other belligerents. it's only reasonable that they would do less.

all of the biggest cunt nerds did their share

if you're talking about strat right now, don't even mention my guys lol, half of them or more detested strat and basically did it as a favour to me (Kesh style, I'd tell them exactly what to do and when in a micromanagement fashion, boy is that fucking exhausting)

and i only play this game on an alt because i'm too embarrassed to play it rofl

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Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Bronto on August 25, 2015, 09:09:32 pm
God dammit Plumbo. Are you seriously that naive? Weshouldservebeer died almost a year ago, acre was never in it, FCC impersonated one of our frequent members to gain information so they're just as dirty as everyone else. I'll send you some forceps so you can safely remove your head from your ass. You're a broken record m8 and I'm tired of listening. Come up with some new shit or move along for the sake of us all.

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Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Voncrow on August 25, 2015, 11:21:17 pm
I'm gonna ignore the shitstorm of irrelevant jibber jabber about last strat since that is 100% unimportant to the current conversation. What I am going to say if the current Occitan members can't make time to organize shit battles or at least add people to the roster they should find someone they trust to do that, if they can't, then it's their fault for attempting to compete on strat with a lower level of nerdery.

EDIT: Forgot this because of reading through the shitstorm, but to who ever mentioned that HCE is more than one faction should remember that 13k were disbanded leaving Starks who are mostly afk or mia(where'd tristan go?) which leaves acre consisting as probably 95% of the faction or more.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: BlackxBird on August 25, 2015, 11:54:44 pm
bruttus u are as foolish on the forum as on the battlefield. Instead of thinking why a 200 men shiny army runs right into ur hands u just attack it. Like on the forums. You don't think. You just do. Gl tomorrow with ur shit eq against a shiny army of us with 200 more troops.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: StonedSteel on August 25, 2015, 11:58:15 pm
Hi there, lets chat.

Dear Anders: ya, works is bitch i wouldnt post from it either, so i feel ya there, perhaps when u are done u will feel free to fallow up on what u said about correcting me. i have my own archive of posts begging for statements to be addressed and often ask "is anything i said about so and so inaccurate" constantly asking, even begging sometimes for my many discrepancies to be to be set right. which typically turns into a pointless conversation, so ya, feel free. it gets to the point i literally have to form my arguments as fucking Yes or No questions, which, interestingly enough, usually changes the topic pretty quick.

Bronto: good ole bronto. weshouldservebeer will never die, and ya, acre aint in it. uhh, the TS that is. the weshouldserverbeer ts, is much more of a movement and a mindset than a ts. as i have said many times, there is a huge split in the player base between what the weshouldservebeer players want to do on strat, and how they approach it. and actual players. i say actual, cuz im a cunt, on the other side of the fence, and ya, noone can or will force those that want to play it more as a mmo than a war sim, but i can still rant about it. and will continue to do so.

Cup: trust me lad...noone gives jona more shit for being a fucking no skilled spamming autist than i do. like i said, i dont pick and choose my times to be honest. its 24\7 brah. cuz im more handsome than sexy, and more honest than friendly. and thats how i live. 2nd...do u even read what i write? or do u just see ive posted and get all worked up? matey didnt remove relit...damn fool, it was the other way, i mean, the post is litterally just a few posts back...cup man...fail. also, FCC helped and worked with a lot of clans...their relations with ravens these days are prob the same as their relations with acre. ( prob not good ) and mb...i have a lot of friends in mb ( i mean, we nudge each other constantly...it must mean something ) trash? no. i believe my exact words were "mb is a cool clan full of cool people and an always poppin ts. they dont really belong on the strat map though, not their mentality. i mean, i havent fought for them since they let tkov easily flag cap...in fact, have they ever been anything on their own without some other big clan backing them" CUP...u went 0-3 there, damn son...fail

Sandy...i like the way u post boy. ur diff than these...other nerdlings, i have respect for u, i stole ur style btw, 73 armor, fuckin bec, people dont like it, but i love it, thx sandy. how ya been btw?

u dont have a real big ego it seems sandy, so i believe the words u wrote. ...i miss strat 4 man. fuck.

still, it fuckin drives me nuts there cant be 2 fcc's constantly at fucking war, ALWAYS...it makes me sad mad cuz the rest are bad, so i rant...cuz im a cunt.

tbh i know a thug crew of native lads that would LOVE strat and totally commit to it...but constantly remind me...they cant stand the community...i feel them bro, i feel them

i was suppose to be ranting about...something, all i can think of is sandy and jaren on catapults...and that one dracul guy, u know the one, with the crazy voice

hahaha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U1GSBkJ488 christopher lee does porn, thats it!!

fuckin memories, wheres ma rage at? idk, i just idk...im going to go smoke, bye sandy, this was nice, we should do it again sometime.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Bronto on August 26, 2015, 12:09:22 am
I wrote stuff but it doesn't matter. You are too blinded by the other side of the fence you sit on to comprehend another's point of view. Carry on in your ignorance I'm done trying to show you both sides of something obvious.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: cup457 on August 26, 2015, 02:09:37 am
you give me cancer plumbo. Im not going to respond to you in any fashion anymore.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: HappyPhantom on August 26, 2015, 02:36:34 am
Is it worth pointing out that I think Plumbo is over-generalising?

Ok, thought so.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Havelle on August 26, 2015, 03:00:06 am
tbh i know a thug crew of native lads that would LOVE strat and totally commit to it...but constantly remind me...they cant stand the community...i feel them bro, i feel them

Well tell them I hate them and fuck those guys. I hope they don't come.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Bryggan on August 26, 2015, 06:16:27 am
Could I get a list of those who actually play strat as opposed to those who bitch and whine about it?
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on August 26, 2015, 06:20:42 am
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Oh fuck sake Plumbo, you always do this thing where I try to tell you that you're wrong and you go "lol maybe man, its all good though whats up, you want to get a beer some time or some shit?"

I'm good, man. I'm not gonna pretend that FCC wasn't the consistent best at strat overall, barring certain times of unstellar performance. It was mostly Kesh (I mean duh) and Bale, with some others like Murdertron, that one shielder that I can't remember the name of, and other lesser lieutenant-types. Mostly just Kesh, though.

I wouldn't want two FCCs to fight. If anything I'd want more wars similar to the Occitan-TKoV conflict. That shit was nice. Two relatively evenly-matched opponents, at least partially doing neat RP shit. I loved that, on both sides of the fight.

I've been pretty aiight, btw. Posted at a less-than-ideal job, but I do have an interview tomorrow for a better one. Getting back in school next semester, maybe do something with myself. I still play video games, who would have thought?!?

Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Bryggan on August 26, 2015, 07:59:43 am
EDIT:  TL;DR.  I was really drunk last night.

Sandersson, I love ya bud, but you really seem like an old geezer talking about the old times.  "Back in my day!". and so on.

Those days are gone.  I think back then people were actually excited about strat.  Then they got bored.  And us newcomers are left with what's left.  Back in the day I was tempted to join strat, but lost interest cuz of al the non stop shit posts I read (kinda like EU invasion thread).  Way too much hate.  Gamers ran the show then, and gamers insist on winning.  Us RPers are just guys who are too cheap to buy a book.  I kinda like losing- seemed very dramatic losing to an Eu horde.  But I didn't like being called an idiot for losing.  Sure we fucked up a lot.  Took us awhile to catch on how to deal with big sieges.  No biggie.

BUT.  We kept our morale up.  No one GTX.  Sure, pretty much everyone that was not Acre deserted, but Acre itself grew stronger.  Something about being a hero against overwhelming odds.  But what I find sad is that most of those that deserted deserted cuz of the bullshit posted here (I got pms).  They left cuz they believed the enemy propaganda more than ours.  Probably cuz most of our propaganda was tongue in cheek.

But I hear our criticisms; "we attacked too much, we attacked too little".  "We attacked small clans (we attacked the one that attacked us.  I had sent threatening letters to other small clans suggesting they join us or die, but when they resisted I gave in.  Eques tells everyone to join them or die, and that's cool.  I get shit for trying to build an empire that would never happen (remember before Eques?  Everyone who got active in strat was against me), while Eques builds another empire that will probably happen.

And, to be totally honest, I'm ok with this.  Black Bird is a total asshole in the forums, but I chatted with him once, long ago, and he seemed decent.  BUT, whether I like him or not, the war must go on.  Black Bird is the new Dutchy- another guy I like in TS but hate in strat (and NA1- wtf, how can he couch me ALL the time with his bad ping?).

But good news, everybody!  The attacks on Durquba have slowed down.  We can only hope that this means the stockpiled troops of Eques have petered out.  They did highly over estimate our strength, but we weathered them.  And yes, we all knew Black Bird could have taken Durq if he was smart.  And we think he might be kinda smartish.  I'm not so sure he could have won it with his commander skills (ie nice green, less red please) but he could have won it with waves.  Standard siege tactic.

And he also knows what we would have done.  I went to Eu to make money, giving King James the order to Hold Durq as long as he could, then send defeated commanders to me.  That never happened.  But he knew if we had men sent to Eu, we would rebuild and attack.  Instead he chose to play with Durquba.  And then he said a foolish thing in saying that fighting on the walls of Durq was better than fighting tiny armies in the desert, where there were massive amounts of reinforcements available.  Strat 101: fight enemies in a city rather than a field.

Strat is not a brainy game.  It is a war of attrition, designed to fuck the attacker over.  Battles are generally even ticks, so you gotta aim to defend.  You take villages hoping to draw troops out of the castles or cities.  There are a few instances of cat and mouse.  I remember the Squids trying to draw me into a battle with 200 or so troops that had a shit load of goods right outside the fief we were gonna take.   I, being gung ho, was about to pounce on it, but my good commander Dirk said:
But I think of the fun and games of Yruma Castle when JayJrod deserted.  A big rush to attack the castle when it was weak, with their guys intercepting our guys, and our guys intercepting their guys, and everybody splitting their armies and taking out whoever was in their way.  We could have had it, but sJimmy's NTS was fucked, so, after all that maneuvering, I acquiesced.  Might I remind you I'm the guy who plays for fun? I like winning, but an honest win.  I told the Wardens when their crime was up, because there was no bloody way I'd take a castle thanks to footpads and thieves.

So, fuck you Plumbo!  I play this game like it's a good book I'm reading, not to show off my gamer skills.  So who's the nerd now?  Sorry, unfair question, as I can guess you never read a book.  (But come merc for me anyways).

But, Occitan.  The more you strike them, the more they will rouse.  Perhaps a sleeping giant comes to mind (ok, I failed when I attacked them- seemed to put them to sleep actually.  BUT, after I saw they were dead, I stopped fighting them and left their carcass to the Hounds and the Wardens, who took all their lands without resistance).

SO! LCO, ma Quebecois bon amies, I think I repaid you for the gear I took off Goretooth. So let's attack Eques and dance in their spilled intenstines like gentiment Messieurs.

PS: For anyone who thinks I'ma puss, I fought: AI, Squids, Hounds, Wardens, Acre, LCO, GdtD, LL,
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: poonerplox2 on August 27, 2015, 01:05:48 am
Lets look at your leadership. James. Canadian. Bryggan. Canadian. Arrowhine. French Canadian puty. NSIV... Trans-Canadian? I don't honestly know.  Mithrim, HoC, sJimmy, are all American in leadership and membership. Not sure about LL.  Brotherhood (who are neutral) pretty sure mostly American.  Berzerks... you guys are American too right? 

BUT YOU CAN BET YOUR ASS I'M A TRUE AMERICAN BORN AND RAISED! FUCK YEA, LETS GO AMERICA
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: dreadnok on August 27, 2015, 01:17:48 am
You guys gotta be fucking kidding me.
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on August 27, 2015, 01:24:11 am
LL leaders are sJimmy and Dutchy AFAIK so thats 50% AMERICAN and 50% STRAYA. And when the war first started there was me, Tal, and Blue as leaders of HCE which makes us 50% american(bryggan, axeman, and james are canadian as has been pointed out.)
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: dreadnok on August 27, 2015, 06:54:08 pm
I actually shed a tear that this retarded kid shit is still going on. The jared fogle story was starting to get boring so i needed some new drama. Thx guys
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: arowaine on August 28, 2015, 10:55:24 pm
Dreadcock for president!
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: dreadnok on August 29, 2015, 12:40:46 am
Dreadcock for president!




Arrroooowwwwwweeeeeeeeeee, miss you little buddy
Title: Re: Occitan counter offensive
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on August 29, 2015, 08:01:10 pm
Ah just like the good old days.