The Beautiful winter area will become a peaceful place.
Most of our holdings are outside the tundra. However, the Free Companies of Calradia agrees to defend and support the other tundra clans against any incursion by a LARGE clan (25+ members). We do this in the spirit of fair play. If a 5 man faction attempts to take a fief from one of the smaller tundra clans, we would support these minor wars between small clans and feel it would be unjust for us as a 40+ member faction to get involved.
Any large/medium clan (25+ members), we would act to support the tundra clans against what has been happening in the desert (e.g. Hospitaller v Hero Party, VE v. Chevalieres).(click to show/hide)
We appreciate your support Kesh, and are glad to continue the relations between us and FCC.(click to show/hide)
Can we all hold hands now? Cuz I'm feeling left out :/ Besides the tundra is lame without a fisdnar
the tundra is lame without a fisdnar
Words so true they bring tears to these old wizard's eyes.
Looks like the small faction of SWF has been attacked by another small faction, TFF, in Ismirala.
Looks like the small faction of SWF has been attacked by another small faction, TFF, in Ismirala.
More like the: Tundra Area Mutual Pact Of Nations
Amirite guys???
I REFUSE TO SIGN THIS!
Simply because it looks like a way to gain more allies against us if we decide to come back and poke at those fiefs :twisted:
Tampon lol hobbIt is supposed to help stop the flow of blood.
Alas, this is true...but the Free Peasants are welcome to apply to TAMDA anyhow.
So is this the beginning of an Empire in the North?
Whatever bloodbath you gentlemen wish to start, please leave us out of it as we have no intentions for violence (and our borders are open to all traders).
Most of our holdings are outside the tundra. However, the Free Companies of Calradia agrees to defend and support the other tundra clans (whether they are in this agreement or not) against any incursion by a LARGE clan (25+ members). We do this in the spirit of fair play. If a 5 man faction attempts to take a fief from one of the smaller tundra clans, we would support these minor wars between small clans and feel it would be unjust for us as a 40+ member faction to get involved.
Artyem, as it states in the document, this is a DEFENSIVE agreement.
de·fen·sive /diˈfensiv/
Adjective:
1. Used or intended to defend or protect: "troops in defensive positions".
2. (in sports) Relating to or intended as defense.
Antonyms: attacking, harmful, hurtful, injurious, threatening
Usually a defense needs an attack, and neither myself or my clan wants any part of whatever bloodbath you get involved in.
lol, FCC = Hypocrisy personified.
Death to the NA UIF. Long live the real UIF.
That sounds great and all, but this could have been proposed to all of the northern factions by separate invitation rather than just having two clans hop in and expect the rest to follow.
This idea was brought up by Wesley who approached Sauce and I and we discussed and put this out, with the intention that other small clans in the area would see it and ask to join the agreement (such as Dracul). I apologize if it seems we were leaving people out, that was not the intention.
Dracul is welcome to join the agreement.
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This idea was brought up by Wesley who approached Sauce and I and we discussed and put this out, with the intention that other small clans in the area would see it and ask to join the agreement (such as Dracul). I apologize if it seems we were leaving people out, that was not the intention.
Dracul is welcome to join the agreement.
With some reconsideration, I'll hold a vote and see what my clan wants.
EDIT:
That vote went by quickly, the consensus is yes, I need to add one of you on steam for quick negotiation I guess.
Also, I apologize if I came off as a bit abrasive, I just get defensive and a bit overly cautious when my neighbors start jumping into agreements.
Im just saying its silly to have this agreement when both Teutonics and Remnant could easily hold themselves and defend themselves and have the allies and support to do so--why need each other and beckon others to join if you're not afraid of someone coming back and fighting you for it?
I have said we are neutral, and we will most likely remain that way, I just find this pact silly and it really stands no means other than to defend yourselves against us.
It's kind of funny. If KUTT had remained neutral to all parties when you controlled the tundra, this thread probably wouldn't even exist.
It's kind of funny. If KUTT had remained neutral to all parties when you controlled the tundra, this thread probably wouldn't even exist.
...pure logic i would say yes, but in terms of diplomacy in this game, often logic is not the thing which is acted on, i would suggest both parties Remnants and Kutt should sit down together and either confirm or renegotiate the NAP.
Added: Due to our NAP with Remnants--IF we were to get into conflict with Teutonics, wouldn't that mean that HG and Remnant couldn't support Teutonics nor attack us due to the NAP (which was in effect before this Defense Agreement). Trying to piece together the Remnant Faction's role, or is HG going to branch off and become its own Strat Faction?
horrific carebear mentality
As the Voivode of the Dragoni of Valahia, I officially dip my pen in TAMDA's company ink.
there is no care-baring only whiners and loosers.fix'd
there is no care-bearing only whiners and losers.
If I sign this treaty, does that mean I get to rape your S&D in every fief and if you attack me, everyone in the agreement has to stand on my side of the war? Cuz if so, I might be in just for shits & giggles!
Yet our NAP would be in agreement before the TAMDA and Remnants would be expected to honor it.
Nonetheless, I will be joining the TAMDA, though I request a different font that makes my signature look like chicken scratch!
Yet our NAP would be in agreement before the TAMDA and Remnants would be expected to honor it.
Nonetheless, I will be joining the TAMDA, though I request a different font that makes my signature look like chicken scratch!
Additionally, FCC has stated that they will provide assistance to any small clan in the tundra area (within the TAMDA or not) that finds itself being invaded by a hostile large clan, but they will not get involved in tundra wars between small clans.
Yeah member factions ha not yet been updated it looks like. Dracul and KUTT. What are Ildist and Mates and Free Peasants of Fisdnar doing??
Well, guess what? (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=1577)
Wesley has approached me with an invitation for the Frisian Freedom to join TAMDA; however, we have declined at this time. Good luck to all members.
I personally considered Teutonics a medium-sized clan, the Frisians are relatively new, and are already going to get massacred.
That choice is up to FCC. TAMDA would not get involved because Teutonic is taking an offensive action, where TAMDA only serves as a defensive agreement against invasion for member factions.
Teutonic's roster lists a total of 41 members. Ours lists 10; not even all of those 10 are on Strategus. I would consider 40+ a medium-sized clan and 10 a small clan.
where are you getting these numbers?
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfofaction&id=195
that says 13 members.
Faction hall thread; could list alternates but I'm not familiar enough with them to know.
Less than half of whom are actually active, I am afraid.
Frisian guys, don't get too mad about this. I won't even kick you out if I take the fief. I just want the village really, you can move on from there.
It is just bussiness :3
Just business, huh? Well, we'll give you the absolute shittiest time for taking our home. All your unarmed or lightly armed caravans that I've seen like jack1s? We'll attack that shit. We'll throw 200 people at the fief over and over until we take it back. We aren't looking to cut our losses and leave. We'll look for allies and we will fight you with all that we've got, admittedly a modest sum.
BRING IT YO
Edit: On a serious note, I have a question. Say Teutonic wrestles this fief from us. That's fine. Say we attack it back, will TAMDA be all over our asses, then? It is simple self-defense in my eyes. If TAMDA would attack under those circumstances, it is nothing more than a license to bully organizations or factions smaller than it. Something like TAMDA only works as advertised if the member factions are completely peaceful.
tldr; fuck the police.
Just business, huh? Well, we'll give you the absolute shittiest time for taking our home. All your unarmed or lightly armed caravans that I've seen like jack1s? We'll attack that shit. We'll throw 200 people at the fief over and over until we take it back. We aren't looking to cut our losses and leave. We'll look for allies and we will fight you with all that we've got, admittedly a modest sum.not sure when you took Ismiralla, but if the fief went to you befor TAMDA was created, TAMDA shouldn't be triggered. Atleast again that is what logic what logic would tell me.
BRING IT YO
Edit: On a serious note, I have a question. Say Teutonic wrestles this fief from us. That's fine. Say we attack it back, will TAMDA be all over our asses, then? It is simple self-defense in my eyes. If TAMDA would attack under those circumstances, it is nothing more than a license to bully organizations or factions smaller than it. Something like TAMDA only works as advertised if the member factions are completely peaceful.
tldr; fuck the police.
Two small clans. FCC will not get involved, as stated.
One is in TAMDA one is not, unfortunately, cause I like Sandersson...
Since its a defensive pact, the other clans should have no obligation to join in.
To all TAMDA members; we should set up a meeting in ts once a week to make sure everyone is organized, up to date, and keep track of our trade runs.
Sorry to revive this thread from the 2nd Page, but I want to specify.
Even though KUTT is no longer a formal faction--we are still united in strategus and those still within our Faction and under our leadership will continue to support TAMDA and assist with any decisions made. This is said to clarify any misconceptions people may have as to where we stand. We are still standing by our word, though we no longer wear the banner of KUTT.
Thank you.
TAMDA is FCC as far as hero_party is considered anyway.
Well it is. Teutonics = FCC buddies after they turned on KUTT to get some easy fiefs. HG = Remnant vassals and Remnant = FCC Vassals.
Free Peasants = Wild Card but guessing they're pro-FCC.
And Frisia = Pro-FCC/Vassals as well. Oh and Dracul Pro-FCC as well/vassals.
I would suggest to get confirmation if the Defense pact actually triggers if a TAMDA member goes into war and then gets counterattacked or if it always counts at the time a TAMDA fief or party within Tundra gets attacked.
The war between those parties is going on for a while now, so claiming now that the Defense Pact is being triggered without a fief getting attacked which was in the claims of those TAMDA members at the time the treaty was made is a bit thin.
LET ME EXPLAIN BETTER : THIS attack against Hindel is not in the TAMDA area and we know Sungetche itself belonged to Hosp originally...so TAMDA does not come into play here.
:arrow: HOWEVER _ the point is, TAMDA is watching, and aggressive movement INTO the tundra against TAMDA Members or holdings will not be taken lightly.
Make more sense now?
I'm not sure i still understand. Explain some more please.
Why would anyone want to own a tundra? Nothing but snow.
Well it is. Teutonics = FCC buddies after they turned on KUTT to get some easy fiefs. HG = Remnant vassals and Remnant = FCC Vassals.
Free Peasants = Wild Card but guessing they're drunk and masturbating.
And Frisia = Pro-FCC/Vassals as well. Oh and Dracul Pro-FCC as well/vassals.
Well it is. Teutonics = FCC buddies after they turned on KUTT to get some easy fiefs. HG = Remnant vassals and Remnant = FCC Vassals.
Free Peasants = Wild Card but guessing they're pro-FCC.
And Frisia = Pro-FCC/Vassals as well. Oh and Dracul Pro-FCC as well/vassals.
Oh and Dracul Pro-FCC as well/vassals.
We're involved with TAMDA, and we're good friends with BIRD CLAN, but we have no real affiliation with FCC other than a standard trade agreement. We merc for them because they helped us get a home (twice now), and we've just always been generally friendly. Everything we've ever done though this strat (and in the past strats) has been done independently and as a sovereign faction.
But I mean, HP must be vassals of Hospitaller because they merc for them at every battle and support them on the forums. Same thing with Occitan, right?
Hero Party forgot one important detail; Frisia has nothing to do with the TAMDA. We are a neutral faction. We give just as many benefits to Hospitaller as we do FCC when it comes to our actions on Strategus (mercenary work aside). Even then we only help FCC mercenary-wise because they have given us more reason to. We don't inherently like either faction more and we certainly are far from a vassal of any faction. I'm not going to list those actions for either faction because I believe each faction wishes them to remain secret. We're just looking out for own best interest while warring factions go at each other.
The only faction we had any form of non-neutral status towards was JABONRA because they attacked our trader and never issued an apology or tried to make amends. At this point though we're cool with the JABONRA guys simply because we like them in cRPG. We never disliked them in the first place but just saw it as an opportunity to treat Strategus as something other then "STRATEGUS: BEST VIDEO GAME WAITING SIMULATOR: 2013" since they gave us a reason for fighting.
But I mean, HP must be vassals of Hospitaller because they merc for them at every battle and support them on the forums. Same thing with Occitan, right?
Well I don't like you hero_party guys either.(click to show/hide)
correction for you hospitaller fougth hero party at the begining of strat before everyone decide to gang bang them. A while after, when fcc decide to roll and get all cocky on hospitaller, they had to get some kind of deal with remnant cause they were not able to take them out by themself. Hero party decide to help hospitaller super simple....still they havent give anything except merc :)
pw: we arent occitan anymore we are les chevaliers occitan sir thanks you
When we've all had enough of Emperor Kesh the Spergful IV, when the chorus of "-1 this racist post" deafen our ears, when the awful shitposting binds shut our eyes, and when we open our minds to a new tomorrow, a new FCC, a new Strategus.. a new day.
The difference is Kesh draws up the plans and orders you people around directly, much as he did with BIRD clan, as our BIRD traitors who joined Hero Party would confirm repeatedly and with much annoyance.
We see TAMDA has nothing but a gimmick to guard FCC's western flank so they can carry out aggressive attacks wherever they please on the rest of the map.
Ironically FCC said they would make sure any large clan would not be able to get involved and support a side in any medium-small factions fighting wars in the north, to make the game fair.
Then when a war of that nature breaks out in the south, FCC immediately sents 6 thousand shiny troops within a day to attack Hero Party and anyone remotely allied, threatening to wipe out any clans who took BIRD clan fiefs. Even though it was just a war between two goon clans that he had no part of.
TAMDA is hypocricy at its finest, and a complete sham. FCC probably are full of contigency plans to wipe out and replace any small clans in the area who begin to falter and replace them with bigger ones, so they always have a buffer on their west flank. Much how H1tler would treat Poland. Once they lost usefulness, the Fuhrer will take what he pleases, while ordering everyone around like an overbearing, micromanaging madman who will ultimately get his side wiped out of the game.
As the wars turn less into easy stomps and alliances form to stop the out of control madman, its no surprise that, much like the SS began going into full blown genocide with the Holocaust, FCC have turned into multi-accounting on an unprecedented scale to continue having a massive economic advantage. Its uncivilized and rather disturbing.
When will these FCC war crimes end? When we've all had enough of Emperor Kesh the Spergful IV, when the chorus of "-1 this racist post" deafen our ears, when the awful shitposting binds shut our eyes, and when we open our minds to a new tomorrow, a new FCC, a new Strategus.. a new day.
Please remove all references of FCC. That clan is dead.
I didn't notice FCC members are impersonating ATS by using their tag and changing colors. If any ATS complain, I'll have to start handing out bans until this is rectified. This will be the only warning.
I don't think you understand, they're reforming the great clan of ATS to rebuild the great NORTHERN EMPIRE.
No kesh. Everyone stop trolling this thread. Trolling on both sides from FCC and HP. Its pathetic. Everyone stop flexing your internet muscles at every chance you guys get. All I am trying to do is clear up the TAMDA. Thats all this thread should be for.
I already clarified it for people who weren't sure, I don't think much else is necessary. Its merely an FCC mandated buffer state that replaced KUTT with clans who were anti Hospitallers, so they could safely fight smaller clans across the map without any risk. Nothing else. All actions by clans within are pre-approved by Kesh, or created by him, due to his meticulous need for dominating clans and microing them. This behavior made half of BIRD clan stop playing, I imagine much the same is happening for Remnants and other clans pulled into the web.
Soldiers! Don't give yourselves to Kesh!, a man who despises you and enslaves you; who regiments your lives, tells you what to do, what to think and what to feel! Who drills you, diets you, treats you like cattle, uses you as cannon fodder!
Kesh commands every battle he's in for "TAMDA" factions, much to the displeasure of some people in those factions I hear.That's weird because I hear that I've never heard that ever, I hear.
I already clarified it for people who weren't sure, I don't think much else is necessary. Its merely an FCC mandated buffer state that replaced KUTT with clans who were anti Hospitallers, so they could safely fight smaller clans across the map without any risk. Nothing else. All actions by clans within are pre-approved by Kesh, or created by him, due to his meticulous need for dominating clans and microing them. This behavior made half of BIRD clan stop playing, I imagine much the same is happening for Remnants and other clans pulled into the web.
Lets all just agree that Kutt got their asses handed to them. Their fall from the game was spectacular.How the hell did I miss it...
Lets all just agree that Kutt got their asses handed to them. Their fall from the game was spectacular.
Lets all just agree that Kutt got their asses handed to them. Their fall from the game was spectacular.
Much the same way Remnant is getting manhandled at the moment, wouldn't you say?(click to show/hide)
Much the same way Remnant is getting manhandled at the moment, wouldn't you say?(click to show/hide)
.... If Hosp continued into TAMDA lands and went offensive past regaining Sungetche, then TAMDA would get involved - ...
Stuff about purely robotic behavior.
So what you're saying is FCC should invade the Tundra and then be forced to fight themselves, right? Because I agree.What i was saying i said, what you said i don't quite understand please explain, perhaps then i can answer your question.
On a side note, Smoothrich is muted again, pro admin skills right there.
So, at this point it's safe to say that he's been muted so many times that if he weren't an admin, he'd have been banned ages ago for the type of bullshit he posts. Anything Spookisland said was mild compared to some of the shit Smoothrich goes on about.
c) As Remantns were contracted through FCC to wage war onto Hospitaller, and gained some of their fiefs because of that i believe, it is very arguable if TAMDA members should in case they help Remnants not also be paid in a similar way as they indirectly would help Remnants with such a contract.( i also read a while back, that that contract is still ongoing is that right?)
The idea was brought up by Sauce my ass! If I never went to HG/Sauce, an alliance wouldn't exist. Sure Sauce is a good boss but why does he have to approve before HG can make a move. The chains are tight. As for FCC we are very good allies but no vassel. When FCC members bash Jason, I tell them Teutonic would switch to the french side. TAMDA is only controlled by the people within. The people within TAMDA are small. All this talk about protecting FCC's flank wasnt planned, It so happened to turn out that way. For a pact that has done nothing it sure the hell is popular. I do not know why Teutonic is in this pact. I wanted to form this alliance because we were weak when we set up our fiefs... Most of the time I choose to ignore this thread. Today is the day Teutonic is on their own.
You may be disappointed Sauce, but the choice of leaving TAMDA opens doors for Teutonic. I dont want to burst your bubble but I'm not going to get dragged down with Remnant.
Oh Anders, the guy who wanted to make his castle a free trade place. Pretty useless. Are you still on the map?Yes actually.
Yes actually.
I must say, for a guy who primarily does everything himself, I've done damn good job at it. No betrayals, no alliances, 2 merc contracts and tons of people who just come to sell at my fief because they don't have to jump through hoops to do it. I accomplished everything I've ever wanted, and it was almost entirely done by 1 person, me.
Well you failed one contract.
Not betraying my word. Gave a reason to leave. Betraying my word would be us not helping if someone like HG got attacked if we were still in TAMDA. Whats done is done. It's funny how you still like to pick on us. You can and will not get over yourself about KUTT. I do feel sorry for you Sir Tanken. I made our strat color purple in honor of you. Now you and Tugboat use FCC TS and don't even have to balls the say hello. Cowards indeed. I could go on a rant all day but to be honest you're wasting my time. Cheers Tanken.
Oh Anders, the guy who wanted to make his castle a free trade place. Pretty useless. Are you still on the map?
As I said - I personally hold no grudges for Teutonic leaving...
More just a question of what they do from here like Tanken pointed out.
did you even set foot on Eu lands?
invade EU
Nope. My secondary forces got attacked by KUTT and then i had to throw out some vengeance and besiege that village. Turned into a bloodbath and lost 1.7k troops approximately and counting the secondary forces about 2k in total almost.If it was a slaughter in NA then EU will be a fuck bomb going off in your ass...
And then the 3rd army had to run out with the remaining troops and gear. So yeah. But one day the invasion will happen!
If it was a slaughter in NA then EU will be a fuck bomb going off in your ass...
+ In EU i doubt they had as much tincan armor as KUTT got. Master of Tincan Armor :l
Thats why NA battles are infinitely more fun....
i'm a +1 fairy today, tomorrow.. who knows..
You're a fairy every day.
^ He thinks he's smooth! But it's just the lack of Huey!
How many days has it been since we lost him?
i was worried for two seconds, but then i remember i've never deep throated a banana on cam, she does have a slight resemblance though i suppose...
oh yeah TAMDA
too long, my heart aches.
just kidding i talk to that lovable boy every day, he's well. he has a REAL LIFE, i went to cali and tried to stalk him but it didnt work out
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i was worried for two seconds, but then i remember i've never deep throated a banana on cam, she does have a slight resemblance though i suppose...
oh yeah TAMDA
i was worried for two seconds, but then i remember i've never deep throated a banana on cam, she does have a slight resemblance though i suppose...
oh yeah TAMDA
** UPDATE **
Imperium Romanum has joined TAMDA and is under the protection of its defensive agreement network.
They currently own Ismirala in the Tundra.
Don't the Frisians own Ismirala again?
I just got back from the Hospital
:( You ok?
Sorry to be off topic in my own thread.
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ISMIRALA is under the protection of TAMDA *NOW* as it has been promised to Imperium and is just awaiting transfer.
Was a bad couple of days. :cry:
Back to topic.
Glad to see Tamda is still alive. It keeps the north from falling into a mega-clans hands. One question I do ask though, since Dracul has joined the alliance of Flimbulvetur, do they still count on the protection of TAMDA? Or do they now bring in the alliance with them to counter any attacks made on TAMDA?
What if a TAMDA member is attacked by someone from fimbulvetr :mrgreen:
He claims himself neutral then attacks the apparent loser and say he was on the other guys side the whole time. :twisted:
Don't fuck with the Tundra, end of story.
It's strange after all this time that Elindor still needs to explain TAMDA. Don't fuck with the Tundra, end of story.
I seem to have poked a hole in that absolute statement.
Oh hey, we tundra now. When do I get force-issued my membership card?
This post Canary........are you trying to be a jerk? -___-This is the diplomacy part of Strategus, most of everyone acts in an unusual faction.
This is the diplomacy part of Strategus, most of everyone acts in an unusual faction.
Anywho, best of wishes for a bloody good war!
Whose at war?Not enough people, I'm just wishing war upon everyone, sort of like wishing you a wonderful pony, but a bit different.
Not enough people, I'm just wishing war upon everyone, sort of like wishing you a wonderful pony, but a bit different.
Not enough people, I'm just wishing war upon everyone, sort of like wishing you a wonderful pony, but a bit different.
Just wondering, if TAMDA members start going on a war of aggression, will that compromise their ability to remain in TAMDA?
Just wondering, if TAMDA members start going on a war of aggression, will that compromise their ability to remain in TAMDA?
There are so many things I could say about your strat faction, but I'mkinda pussy and I'll try my best not to offend your leadership.
Well considering I never got all that serious with my strat faction why in the hell should I be offended? Please go ahead and inform me good sir.
Rather confused on where the insult came at. Maybe you took my post serious. People seem to do that here. Hell, Teutonic just got wiped from a careless post (realize that they probably were going to get it in the ass anyways.) Either way, awaiting your offensive post.
Arys is right...
If a TAMDA clan goes offensive, any retaliatory actions by the clan they attacked will not be something that TAMDA members are required to get involved in.
Also, if a clan is viewed as having a negative impact on TAMDA, the factions can vote to remove that trouble maker faction.
This is confusing to me, because see when Remnant attacked Hospitaller, you said TAMDA would help you guys out if we made our way past Sungetche.
You guys were the aggressors, and you still wanted the help from TAMDA?
I'm confused.
I believe kinngrimm pointed this out, but everyone ignored him.
HG isn't Remnant, if you had attacked HG settlements that would be an attack on a TAMDA member. HG weren't the aggressors, Remnant was, and I don't think HG helped them out at all.
HG is part of Remnant on strategus, this has been covered before, they are helping them out right now and I believe we did see some armies go to Sungetche when TKOV was attacking it.
You can't choose when you want to be a part of the faction and when you don't.. IMO.
I direct you to this link, good sir:
http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/holy-guard-%28hg%29-change-of-diplomacy/
Krosis, why are you wondering this now when we are well at peace? We (remnant) were in fact the aggressors, however HG is apart of us on strat. Essentially the same thing as the VE (tkov, mb, hoc) but much smaller. So of course they helped us out, because we are one faction. Nobody else in TAMDA provided any other support other then mercs against you guys, same for the VE war.
Although I have no idea why any of that is relevant considering that was a very long time ago and everyone is at peace now. Also HG is now a separate faction in strat but Remnant and HG are still apart of TAMDA.
Wasnt trying to have an argument either, just telling you the facts :P
If a TAMDA clan goes offensive, any retaliatory actions by the clan they attacked will not be something that TAMDA members are required to get involved in.
Thanks Tom,
Krosis...its simple.
Remnant aggressed and in their advance they took Sungetche. In return, Hospitaller took Sungetche back....all fair.
TAMDA would not get involved in that.
The warning was that if Hosp CONTINUE further and THEMSELVES became the aggressors, TAMDA would get involved.
Once they got Sungetche back, things were returned to their original situation.
Does that not make sense?
So tell me if I'm getting this wrong..
After Remnant attacked us, you think it would have been unfair for Hospitaller to attack back the Remnant FACTION, because then WE would have been the aggressors?
So tell me if I'm getting this wrong..
After Remnant attacked us, you think it would have been unfair for Hospitaller to attack back the Remnant FACTION, because then WE would have been the aggressors?
Membership in TAMDA is NOT meant to be a "safeguard" at home while member factions initiate
offensive wars elsewhere. Member factions that are deemed to be a liability by their own
offensive initiatives will be removed from TAMDA to protect the other member factions.