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Re: Tundra Area Mutual Defense Agreement (TAMDA) [NA]
« Reply #105 on: December 05, 2012, 07:23:06 am »
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Sorry to revive this thread from the 2nd Page, but I want to specify.

Even though KUTT is no longer a formal faction--we are still united in strategus and those still within our Faction and under our leadership will continue to support TAMDA and assist with any decisions made. This is said to clarify any misconceptions people may have as to where we stand. We are still standing by our word, though we no longer wear the banner of KUTT.


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Let me know what you change to so I can put that in there instead.
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Re: Tundra Area Mutual Defense Agreement (TAMDA) [NA]
« Reply #106 on: January 19, 2013, 07:35:40 pm »
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Attention Hospitaller and TKoV (since it is known you have many troops in the area now)...

In regards to this : http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=2032

The TAMDA is watching your actions in the SW corner of the Tundra...and the MEMBER FACTIONS of TAMDA will not sit idly by if it is seen that you are moving aggressively against any member or holding of the Tundra area.
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Re: Tundra Area Mutual Defense Agreement (TAMDA) [NA]
« Reply #107 on: January 19, 2013, 07:46:27 pm »
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But aside from the good Meet the Fockers reference, can we get a screenshot of where the Attack is taking place so others can pass judgement based on if it was in Tundra or Not. Not wanting to defend either side's stance atm, but you guys -are- still apart of Remnant Faction (afaik) and TKoV and Hosps are working to push them out of their territory.
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Re: Tundra Area Mutual Defense Agreement (TAMDA) [NA]
« Reply #108 on: January 19, 2013, 07:46:50 pm »
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^^^^

You do realize that was our our castle right? That is why Hospitaller are near by, And you have been helping Remnant which Tkov was attacking, so are you really surprised?

You cant be aggressive towards another and then play victim when they fight back.


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Re: Tundra Area Mutual Defense Agreement (TAMDA) [NA]
« Reply #109 on: January 19, 2013, 08:06:35 pm »
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TAMDA is FCC as far as hero_party is considered anyway. Good fights to all~
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Re: Tundra Area Mutual Defense Agreement (TAMDA) [NA]
« Reply #110 on: January 19, 2013, 08:08:40 pm »
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TAMDA is FCC as far as hero_party is considered anyway.

Well it is. Teutonics = FCC buddies after they turned on KUTT to get some easy fiefs. HG = Remnant vassals and Remnant = FCC Vassals.

Free Peasants = Wild Card but guessing they're pro-FCC.

And Frisia = Pro-FCC/Vassals as well. Oh and Dracul Pro-FCC as well/vassals.
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Re: Tundra Area Mutual Defense Agreement (TAMDA) [NA]
« Reply #111 on: January 19, 2013, 08:12:25 pm »
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Well it is. Teutonics = FCC buddies after they turned on KUTT to get some easy fiefs. HG = Remnant vassals and Remnant = FCC Vassals.

Free Peasants = Wild Card but guessing they're pro-FCC.

And Frisia = Pro-FCC/Vassals as well. Oh and Dracul Pro-FCC as well/vassals.

Wow - you guys are clueless. lulz.

By that same logic - Hero_party are vssals of Occitan and Hospitallers. Hospitallers attacked them and they bitched out and became vassals because too scared to stand alone.  Then they got the villages in the Eastern desert for their other liege lord Occitan, who attacked the main city themselves - not trusting hero party to be capable of doing it.  And of course since occitan is still technically part of the UIF you are all really vassals of DRZ.


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Re: Tundra Area Mutual Defense Agreement (TAMDA) [NA]
« Reply #112 on: January 19, 2013, 08:20:20 pm »
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I would suggest to get confirmation if the Defense pact actually triggers if a TAMDA member goes into war and then gets counterattacked or if it always counts at the time a TAMDA fief or party within Tundra gets attacked.

The war between those parties is going on for a while now, so claiming now that the Defense Pact is being triggered without a fief getting attacked which was in the claims of those TAMDA members at the time the treaty was made is a bit thin.
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Re: Tundra Area Mutual Defense Agreement (TAMDA) [NA]
« Reply #113 on: January 19, 2013, 08:41:17 pm »
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I would suggest to get confirmation if the Defense pact actually triggers if a TAMDA member goes into war and then gets counterattacked or if it always counts at the time a TAMDA fief or party within Tundra gets attacked.

The war between those parties is going on for a while now, so claiming now that the Defense Pact is being triggered without a fief getting attacked which was in the claims of those TAMDA members at the time the treaty was made is a bit thin.

I see where you're coming from, and I believe I asked a similar question before joining TAMDA. The way I understand it is that if war should enter the Tundra, the factions would sanction together to keep it from spreading and attempt to contain it, if not all together extinguish it. Given the circumstances that HG is apart of Remnant Faction, they somewhat inherit their Father's war, and given that Remnant has made it clear they aren't apart of TAMDA, yet HG is, it leaves me scratching my head as well.

It would be easier for HG if they separated from Remnant Faction and created their own, they're big enough to do so now, and hopefully active enough. But I think that's what's happening here, inherently getting attacked based on Faction association, not so much the clan itself. And thus, if that's the case, does TAMDA in fact cover it since it's not so much an attack directed to HG, as it is directed at Remnant?


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Re: Tundra Area Mutual Defense Agreement (TAMDA) [NA]
« Reply #114 on: January 19, 2013, 08:59:02 pm »
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LET ME EXPLAIN BETTER : THIS attack against Hindel is not in the TAMDA area and we know Sungetche itself belonged to Hosp originally...so TAMDA does not come into play here.

 :arrow: HOWEVER _ the point is, TAMDA is watching, and aggressive movement INTO the tundra against TAMDA Members or holdings will not be taken lightly.


Make more sense now?
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Re: Tundra Area Mutual Defense Agreement (TAMDA) [NA]
« Reply #115 on: January 19, 2013, 09:09:46 pm »
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LET ME EXPLAIN BETTER : THIS attack against Hindel is not in the TAMDA area and we know Sungetche itself belonged to Hosp originally...so TAMDA does not come into play here.

 :arrow: HOWEVER _ the point is, TAMDA is watching, and aggressive movement INTO the tundra against TAMDA Members or holdings will not be taken lightly.


Make more sense now?

I'm not sure i still understand. Explain some more please.
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Re: Tundra Area Mutual Defense Agreement (TAMDA) [NA]
« Reply #116 on: January 19, 2013, 09:10:59 pm »
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I'm not sure i still understand. Explain some more please.

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Re: Tundra Area Mutual Defense Agreement (TAMDA) [NA]
« Reply #117 on: January 19, 2013, 09:30:48 pm »
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Why would anyone want to own a tundra?  Nothing but snow.
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Re: Tundra Area Mutual Defense Agreement (TAMDA) [NA]
« Reply #118 on: January 19, 2013, 09:36:28 pm »
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Why would anyone want to own a tundra?  Nothing but snow.

Therein lies your answer...


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Re: Tundra Area Mutual Defense Agreement (TAMDA) [NA]
« Reply #119 on: January 19, 2013, 10:40:24 pm »
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As history has shown us, there are certain things you should consider when deciding to settle in the north

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