... the chaos of siege lends itself more to my playstyle ...
I suck at parrying (people always call it manual block, but that sounds dumb).
I've practiced for hours in Native, duel server, etc, but I obviously just lack the required motor skills to parry in the heat of battle. Most people with my impairment just go Huscarl Shield/Side Sword, and do fine. I think 1h/shield is boring, so I loaded up on power strike and loomed a Great Long Bardiche instead (with the reasoning that with enough damage and reach, I could mask my horrible reflexes). I play almost exclusively on the NA Seige server, because the chaos of siege lends itself more to my playstyle (since I lose to peasants with practice longswords in any kind of duel situation). I may not be able to parry, but I have fun cleaving people and whatnot.
Sometimes the stars align and and I end up with a lot of kills during a particular map. Usually on defense, when I'm able to stand on top of a ladder and just split skulls nonstop. When I actually have a decent score, I never brag/gloat in chat, I just play the game and have fun like always. When this happens, invariably some guy (that prides themselves on their parrying ability, apparently) starts fuming in chat about what a joke I am, how I make them sick, making fun of my awful parrying skill, etc.
If you are one of these people: please stop. I don't claim to be good at parrying. No where in the server rules does it say you have to be able to parry 75%+ of attacks to play on the server. If I get more kills than you some round, it doesn't mean I think I am more 'l33t' than you or whatever. So please chill with the elitism, and understand that not everyone can be as awesome at every aspect of the game as you are. I follow the rules, usually focus on the map objectives, and generally keep a low profile, so please just leave me alone and try not to let my poor parrying skill ruin your day.
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I suck at parrying (people always call it manual block, but that sounds dumb).
I've practiced for hours in Native, duel server, etc, but I obviously just lack the required motor skills to parry in the heat of battle. Most people with my impairment just go Huscarl Shield/Side Sword, and do fine. I think 1h/shield is boring, so I loaded up on power strike and loomed a Great Long Bardiche instead (with the reasoning that with enough damage and reach, I could mask my horrible reflexes). I play almost exclusively on the NA Seige server, because the chaos of siege lends itself more to my playstyle (since I lose to peasants with practice longswords in any kind of duel situation). I may not be able to parry, but I have fun cleaving people and whatnot.
Sometimes the stars align and and I end up with a lot of kills during a particular map. Usually on defense, when I'm able to stand on top of a ladder and just split skulls nonstop. When I actually have a decent score, I never brag/gloat in chat, I just play the game and have fun like always. When this happens, invariably some guy (that prides themselves on their parrying ability, apparently) starts fuming in chat about what a joke I am, how I make them sick, making fun of my awful parrying skill, etc.
If you are one of these people: please stop. I don't claim to be good at parrying. No where in the server rules does it say you have to be able to parry 75%+ of attacks to play on the server. If I get more kills than you some round, it doesn't mean I think I am more 'l33t' than you or whatever. So please chill with the elitism, and understand that not everyone can be as awesome at every aspect of the game as you are. I follow the rules, usually focus on the map objectives, and generally keep a low profile, so please just leave me alone and try not to let my poor parrying skill ruin your day.
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If people enjoyed the game we wouldn't need admins and I would be out of a job, I have kids to feed. Moar trollz needed in CRPG!!
Yeah!
Those meanie heads who take your lunch money are mean kids!
Shame on them for picking on you.
True beauty is on the inside.
We're all winners.
you all know rhade is joining ats right? well bks is joining ats, so i fig we have to take rhade tooHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHA
On a slightly related note...No, its more simple. Back in Warband Beta everyone came from playing Single player M&B and most people played of course with autoblock. Only in MP it seemed much cooler (and more skill-rewarding) to play with manual block enabled and it got standard. (are their any autoblock serves these days?). so everyone calls it manual blocking.
I believe people call it manual blocking rather then parrying because you can just hold your sword on one side forever and block infinite amount of hits to that side (Its a sword shield! :O). A parry oth more a one off deflection, though there sorta is a parrying animation for a stab. Chambers are more similar to parries+ripostes but at the same time not really. So yeah...using irl terms to describe the game actions isn't quite right, hence made up stuff.
+1 also are you part of DoD?
Did a member of Chaos, one of the top five egotistical clans of all time, just +1 this thread?
+1 - but actually: let the l33t kids boast their skillllllz, ignore them, mute them, if it becomes too annoying, and kill them whenever the opportunity is there... ;-)
Usually they have just a fast comp, a fast line/low ping, and play all day - no wonder they top the boards.
I play on a dead slow machine, have 200 ping on good days, 300 on bad, therefore can't block shit without a shield, and still have a hell lot of fun and sometimes even decent results... ;-)
This game by far has the most complaining I've ever seen with more yelling at each other than working together. Must be a result of the past decade's "reality" TV programming.
Cool idea, find something you dont like then blame it on something else you dont like totally random.
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sorry
that is really funny if it is true.
Gaming is so dependent on how long you've played therefore having an elitist attitude means you've done nothing with your life and time other than play a video game which has no value anywhere except in wasting time.
Usually they have just a fast comp, a fast line/low ping, and play all day - no wonder they top the boards.
I know this may surprise you, but I know some guys who play on absolutely terrible machines with ~130 ping and absolutely wreck people after only a few weeks of playing, so I'm sorry, but your excuse of "I don't have an amazing computer and 2 ping and play all day, or else I'd be t3h best!" doesn't really work.
And I can finish a College Calculus class and get an A in it with only two hours or less of study per week, so am I to hold the entire world to this standard?
Some people gravitate to certain skills faster then others, as not only natural talent but also commitment are to be considered.
For furthar example, I have been able to just destroy in any first person shooter I have ever played, but no matter how hard I try I just can't seem to get good at rts games. My friend is the opposite, no matter how we try to coach each other, I won't beat him at rts and he won't beat me at fps.
Embrace the spam, let it flow through you.
My main, Frederick_Von_Spamberge has embraced the spam. I use a flamberge or a great maul almost exlusivly. I just don't like blocking, I can do it, I just don't like the whole block/parry/dance shit.
Most encounters go like this. Duelest dances up to me spamming fients as I stand still just keeping them in my sights. I will block or dodge their first strike (when they finnally stop all the pretentious fienting) then spam overhead with my maul untill they are dead. Oh look I just killed Tyrian/Carebear/Otherelitest with my skilless spam.
Just remember that the winners write the history books.
Long live the spammers!
Embrace the spam, let it flow through you.That's not really spamming, that's just very aggressive fighting. Spamming is when someone who knows their wpf plus weapon speed makes them a lot faster than their opponent just mindlessly clicks the left mouse button as fast as they can knowing their victim never dares to stop blocking or lower their shield.
My main, Frederick_Von_Spamberge has embraced the spam. I use a flamberge or a great maul almost exlusivly. I just don't like blocking, I can do it, I just don't like the whole block/parry/dance shit.
Most encounters go like this. Duelest dances up to me spamming fients as I stand still just keeping them in my sights. I will block or dodge their first strike (when they finnally stop all the pretentious fienting) then spam overhead with my maul untill they are dead. Oh look I just killed Tyrian/Carebear/Otherelitest with my skilless spam.
Just remember that the winners write the history books.
Long live the spammers!
And I can finish a College Calculus class and get an A in it with only two hours or less of study per week, so am I to hold the entire world to this standard?
Some people gravitate to certain skills faster then others, as not only natural talent but also commitment are to be considered.
Just for the record Tyrian is elite not an elitist. He is almost always quiet while having the necessary talent to change the course of battles.
And well put Rhade.
Well, that just like your opinion man.
But ya, guess I've just seen him when he is whining about range (despite not packing a shield) or crushthrough killing him.
Dosen't mean much coming from me, to quote myself: "I bitch and spam, its what I do". I just tend to take the game for what it is, an outlet for my bottled rage, I never take myself seriously. I'm a humble narcissist.
EDIT: In response to Rhade's post. Its a game, some people just don't put as much stock in games or improving game skill. I personally try to improve, but that's because I put way to much stock in games. But seriously if you get pissed off at people not giving a f*ck and having their own style of PLAY (as in game, as in not an important part of life) then you may have some deeper issues that you should seriously look at.
You can look at anything in life and say it's not important.
I don't give a fuck if it's chinese checkers, a video game, a business deal, work, a relationship, your fitness, a karate class, playing the flute, fucking your sister, I don't give a fuck what it is -- the point is, in all you do, you should strive to excel and improve. Anything worth doing is worth doing well.
Furthermore, look up at the stars at night, fuckhead. You realize how small we are? You realize how, no matter what, on a big enough scale, the same logic you apply to video games "not mattering" because they're "insignificant" can apply to absolutely anything in life because when it comes right down to it, we're just insignificant beings existing on a rock for a brief flash in history and in 20,000 years (a blink of an eye in the galaxy's timeline), nothing we do is going to matter. I'd say you're the one who has some deeper issues, feeling that certain pursuits in life are more "important" than other pursuits because other people around you tell that it's so instead of realizing that the important pursuit in life is only your own happiness and the ability to approach everything you do with the attempt to adapt, excel, overcome, succeed and be elite in everything you do because all that matters at the end of your life is that you lived well, not what you did or who thought it was important.
Fucking sheep.
Rhade will you play strategus?
pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease?
Am I allowed to call successful troll on myself?
Rhade, CHILL. If you get this riled up you may need to re-prioritize your life.
Rhade likes to fancy himself a person who automatically deserves and expects respect because he's good at a Turkish video game. The guy has never said one positive comment in-game about anyone or anything since he started.
Well, that just like your opinion man.
But ya, guess I've just seen him when he is whining about range (despite not packing a shield) or crushthrough killing him.
Dosen't mean much coming from me, to quote myself: "I bitch and spam, its what I do". I just tend to take the game for what it is, an outlet for my bottled rage, I never take myself seriously. I'm a humble narcissist.
EDIT: In response to Rhade's post. Its a game, some people just don't put as much stock in games or improving game skill. I personally try to improve, but that's because I put way to much stock in games. But seriously if you get pissed off at people not giving a f*ck and having their own style of PLAY (as in game, as in not an important part of life) then you may have some deeper issues that you should seriously look at.
Am I allowed to call successful troll on myself?
Rhade, CHILL. If you get this riled up you may need to re-prioritize your life.
\derailment
Have you tried real time tactics games? As in, games with little to no resource management? I find them far more appealing than RTS and often far easier.
/derailment
Now we're talking about different issues.
You should expect someone to be willing to get better, and trying their best. Just like you're talented at Math, it would most likely frustrate you to see people who aren't as good as you not trying to improve, but instead taking the easy way out at every opportunity. I don't get ragey when people are bad, I get ragey when people play scared and don't ever risk anything to attempt to become better, they always try to take the most safe, boring way out and in the result never become any better because they aren't taking any risks/learning/growing as a player. Same thing can be said for anyone who's talented at something and gets frustrated when they see others attempting to get to the same level they're at by taking the easy way and defending their shortcomings with excuses like "ping, computers, you play all day etc etc" instead of putting the blame on themselves for not challenging themselves and taking the risks/chances necessary to actually improve. I don't hold any hate for any "bad" player who honestly tries to improve and has the balls to actually try instead of just taking the easy way out at all points, in fact I try to help them as much as I can.
When someone is top tier at something, it shouldn't be said "WELL IF I SPENT AS MUCH TIME AS YOU ID BE GOOD TOO", that's just pathetic attempts to bring those above you down to make up for your shortcomings.
Edit:
Tyrian and Harmless are not "Would be" duelists, they are duelists and extremely top tier ones at that. You can bitch about "feinting" but neither of them really feint that much, when, in reality they both just have extremely good timing and control. Haters never stop hating.
Actually, happy people do what they want :wink:
Very well stated, Rhade.
Also, whoever said Tyrian is an elitist is mistaken. He's on of the BkS that I don't see being abrasive all the time. And I like him :3
True, but happy people don't spew venom and insults at the suggestion that they need to chill.
Yeah!
Those meanie heads who take your lunch money are mean kids!
Shame on them for picking on you.
True beauty is on the inside.
We're all winners.
That's not the same thing. You were saying someone shouldn't make videogames a priority in life. Chilling out or not has nothing to do with that.
Now we're talking about different issues.
You should expect someone to be willing to get better, and trying their best. Just like you're talented at Math, it would most likely frustrate you to see people who aren't as good as you not trying to improve, but instead taking the easy way out at every opportunity. I don't get ragey when people are bad, I get ragey when people play scared and don't ever risk anything to attempt to become better, they always try to take the most safe, boring way out and in the result never become any better because they aren't taking any risks/learning/growing as a player. Same thing can be said for anyone who's talented at something and gets frustrated when they see others attempting to get to the same level they're at by taking the easy way and defending their shortcomings with excuses like "ping, computers, you play all day etc etc" instead of putting the blame on themselves for not challenging themselves and taking the risks/chances necessary to actually improve. I don't hold any hate for any "bad" player who honestly tries to improve and has the balls to actually try instead of just taking the easy way out at all points, in fact I try to help them as much as I can.
When someone is top tier at something, it shouldn't be said "WELL IF I SPENT AS MUCH TIME AS YOU ID BE GOOD TOO", that's just pathetic attempts to bring those above you down to make up for your shortcomings.
Edit:
Tyrian and Harmless are not "Would be" duelists, they are duelists and extremely top tier ones at that. You can bitch about "feinting" but neither of them really feint that much, when, in reality they both just have extremely good timing and control. Haters never stop hating.
Like I said earlier, guess I've just seen a different side of him, but he is much mellower then the other BS (opps I meant Bks) guys. I don't really have anything against him, he just came to mind first.
No, I said if he gets this angry, he needs to re-prioritize. Video games are a priority in my life, in fact I'm making a career out of them, I just don't blow up over them, they are games after all.
Speaking of elitists... Who killed your ass 5 times to your one the last time we fought?
You must have a metal plate in that bald head of yours because my magnetic warhammer keeps connecting to it.
"your a shielder so you are bad" you say...
Yet you always die against me :).
They should rename the "lolstab" to Rhadestab.
BECAUSE THAT IS ALL HE EVER USES. YET HE ALWAYS LOSES.
Love that rhyme?
tldr pew pew laser beams
*Dodges laser beams*
I don't get the hate of good players. Sure, there are a few egoist bastards who think they are gods and became egomaniacs.
(Or, they suck and qq at each death like I do)
But that isn't true for everyone.
Honestly I care little of whether a player is good or bad, mainly I care about the in-game and in-forum manners.
Tyrian and Harmless are not "Would be" duelists, they are duelists and extremely top tier ones at that. You can bitch about "feinting" but neither of them really feint that much, when, in reality they both just have extremely good timing and control. Haters never stop hating.Wouldn't know. Never met them.
Obviously that's a rather dramatic approach, but the point is I'm not going to march to someone else's drum of what they deem "appropriate," I'm an adult capable of making those decisions myself, and shouldn't need to be lorded over by a bunch of other people who's e-feelings get hurt because someone came along and said something that made their little feelings hurt.
And I honestly don't care about manners because it's a subjective belief system that only corresponds to you, and when someone else does something "wrong" that you were brought up to take offense to yet they weren't, they're somehow in the wrong and you're in the right. Yet, to them, they did nothing wrong as you're attempting to condemn them and convert them to your feelings of why they are.
Obviously that's a rather dramatic approach, but the point is I'm not going to march to someone else's drum of what they deem "appropriate," I'm an adult capable of making those decisions myself, and shouldn't need to be lorded over by a bunch of other people who's e-feelings get hurt because someone came along and said something that made their little feelings hurt.
Don't get me wrong, I usually am pleasant and nice with people in the hope of them returning it as I think a lot of people prefer that but I can also easily and handily handle a situation where someone is being unpleasant as well. Enforcing "manners" is just, basically, enforcing an opinion with an iron fist and I can't agree with that.
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HI RHADE is this your shiny bald head :o ? this is from your steam profile btw. :wink:
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Yeah, I photoshopped my epic war face onto a picture I found for maximum rape.Yer photoshop skills are ... lacking.
People stalk me and find pictures of me like it's a bad thing, but idk, I think I'd say I look better IRL than 95% of the fat kids here so it really doesn't bother me. Haters gon' hate etc etc
Yer photoshop skills are ... lacking.
Take that layer yer head is on...
shrink that head better
adjust colour to better match the rest of the body.
alternatively, send to someone.
Good idea though!
I absolute agree Phew, but somebody tell me why is my destrier so useless in turns ? :)
And why I can not charge pikers with it ?
Do I really have to make a champion sumpter horse to have a decent horse, with proper stats and an affordable riding requirement ?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000883/
A lot of people take this game very seriously. When I play archer they constantly say mean things and it makes me feel real bad. I can't play for 5 minutes without hearing about how archery takes no skill. I worked hard to get what meager shooting and running away skills that I have. And then they just say that it isn't skill and that anyone could do it even better. Just point and click adventure they say! But it's more than pointing and clicking, because people zig and zag around and it can be hard to point on them. The worst part is that when I play poorly they say I suck and when I play really good they say I really really suck!
The issue, if you actually read the thread, that I have with players like you is that you take the easy way out and don't care to really improve or strive at all.
You simply circumvent the system that requires the most skill and take the easy path with no intent to risk or challenge yourself at all (running away from melee at all opportunities).
Complete fail on Sarcasm detection...
It's text.
I was just being sarcastic, too, so you're actually the one who failed on sarcasm detection.
Got em.
It's text.
I was just being sarcastic, too, so you're actually the one who failed on sarcasm detection.
Got em.
Common Sense says, 'Being good at a game doesn't automatically grant you the right to be pretentious and presumptuous.'
You just look silly. Honestly, this is such a small thing, such a trivial matter, yet you can't even admit it. It's horrible, really. And speaks volumes indeed.
I suggest you take a good look at the topic of this thread. Look at it, until it starts making sense.
I think you need to relax and lighten up a bit, I was having a bit of a joking happy fun time and you need to turn it into a Dr. Phil life lesson moment. I suggest you read my responses to the topic and the general agreement from them and THEN post.
Your responses are exactly what made me to post here. Everything you've posted in this thread was just proving my point, and I ultimately decided to voice my 'concerns'. I was pretty convinced, too, as I have a nasty habit of usually not bothering. Take subjectivity into account as well, so you can't argue that I was not relevant.
And perhaps the overall tone of my post wasn't conveying that most expressively, though I surely think that there are certain hints indicating that, but I wasn't particularly foaming at the mouth and cursing left and right when I was writing my thoughts. In any case, your solicitude towards my emotional health is very welcome.
Also, you have quite a strange idea of fun.
I'm glad you have such a moral and philosophical high ground that you feel obliged to rescue me from my obviously incorrect and wrong approaches on the subject. Perhaps you should spare me and write a book?
Rescue? God, no. Life will inevitably teach you, though I'm secretly hoping it will do it the hard way. I'm just glad that you're so eager to display you character here for everyone to see and ridicule.
However, will you chill with the elitism, please?
There are a lot of guides there if you want to improve a bit on blocking, my advice is to go to nditions server (native) to play against bots, of if you think that's not needed, a bit of duel servers.
Oh, I've spent hours trying to parry the bots also. With combat speed and difficulty maxed, I can't parry 1h bots more than 50% of the time. I'm not sure I'm capable of improving this skill.
What I HAVE gotten better at is anticipation. I've noticed that at least 75% of the time, if someone parries my right swing, they will respond with a right swing of their own. Wo if my right swing is parried, I now instinctively parry left. But I'm still not responding to what they are actually doing, just making an educated guess based on probability. Bots seem to be random in their swing selection, so they are harder to parry than average players.
And I honestly don't care about manners because it's a subjective belief system that only corresponds to you, and when someone else does something "wrong" that you were brought up to take offense to yet they weren't, they're somehow in the wrong and you're in the right. Yet, to them, they did nothing wrong as you're attempting to condemn them and convert them to your feelings of why they are.
Obviously that's a rather dramatic approach, but the point is I'm not going to march to someone else's drum of what they deem "appropriate," I'm an adult capable of making those decisions myself, and shouldn't need to be lorded over by a bunch of other people who's e-feelings get hurt because someone came along and said something that made their little feelings hurt.
Don't get me wrong, I usually am pleasant and nice with people in the hope of them returning it as I think a lot of people prefer that but I can also easily and handily handle a situation where someone is being unpleasant as well. Enforcing "manners" is just, basically, enforcing an opinion with an iron fist and I can't agree with that.
The issue, if you actually read the thread, that I have with players like you is that you take the easy way out and don't care to really improve or strive at all.
You simply circumvent the system that requires the most skill and take the easy path with no intent to risk or challenge yourself at all (running away from melee at all opportunities).