archery..

[Tears of Destiny]

You have only 40 armour (average is about 50) which is low end for a melee user, and 18str with no IF so hardly expected to be durable. You probably got shot by an archer on an elevated position, closerange, moving towards him, and he got lucky with your sub-par armour chance.

EDIT: Likely a PD 7 Long Bow or Rus Bow archer, 6wm, to be specific.

[_Tak_]

Yes, it is, but archers should in no circumstances one-shot medium infantry except for headshots of course.

40 body armor is not called medium infantry, should be light-medium.  Also who shot you? Is it bagge? (Please do not include him in any list)

[Dezilagel]

40 body armor is not called medium infantry, should be light-medium.  Also who shot you? Is it bagge? (Please do not include him in any list)

Bagge is his clanmate dude.... And he "only" has like 6 PD.

[Siiem]

MW rus bow and MW bodkin is like what? 33 pierce = you shoot an awlpike per arrow, yes yes... buff archery please, especially so that archers with loomed shit can start shooting throwing lances. Pjupju.

[Tears of Destiny]

MW rus bow and MW bodkin is like what? 33 pierce = you shoot an awlpike per arrow, yes yes... buff archery please, especially so that archers with loomed shit can start shooting throwing lances. Pjupju.

Never said buff it, my point is him being oneshot while in sub-par hp and armour was a freak occurence.

Though if anything, headshot damage from range really should be nerfed, or helms buffed against range.

[Siiem]

Never said buff it, my point is him being oneshot while in sub-par hp and armour was a freak occurence.

Not really, I've been one shot by awlpikes a lot, so archers with the same damage potential it's not that odd it would happen.

[Tears of Destiny]

Not really, I've been one shot by awlpikes a lot, so archers with the same damage potential it's not that odd it would happen.

Almost no archer can output my level of damage, most have 6 or 7 PD and could not have one shot him unless using speed bonus, copious amounts of luck on the armour varience, and being shortrange/elevated.

Awlpikes can gain one hell of a speedbonus just from the melee user spin stabbing (range does not get speed bonus from the firing unit)

Archers have the same base damage if using two slotters, not the same damage potential. Base and potential are two different things.

Also, you just compared a MW rus and MW bodkins to a standard unheirloomed awlpike, so how many of those awlpikes have oneshotted you thatwere heirloomed? Stop comparing apples with oranges here.

[Gurnisson]

You probably got shot by an archer on an elevated position, closerange, moving towards him, and he got lucky with your sub-par armour chance.

Low to medium range, not running towards him. He was not at an elevated position. I don't know his build though. However with mail hauberk, mail mittens , 18 strength and full health you should be able to survive one arrow.

You have only 40 armour (average is about 50) which is low end for a melee user, and 18str with no IF so hardly expected to be durable.

Like I've said thousands of times already, I don't expect to be durable. I don't mind being one-shot by melee, arbalest, cav etc. and don't mind being two-shot by an archer (however getting two-shot on my main with 50 body armor 21 str and 5 IF is dumb), but getting one-shot by an archer in that is quite ludicrous. I can't see why you can defend an archer one-hiting a mail-clad infantry with full health. Two-shot? Sure thing. One-shot? I say bullshit.

[Siiem]

Your main Gurni is an awlpiker that gets two shot by MW rus MW bodkin arrows with similar damage potential, I must say I find it rather amusing however also disgusting that archers can get such a stupidly high amount of pierce damage.

[Okkam]

Yes, fully clad in mail is definitely not even light infantry. This mod has obviously turned into a bunch of armor crutchers

Yes. This mode always have bunch of armor crutchers with sword of cookies and arbalest\xbow. So what?

So, you wanna have lightest nonloomed armor, 0 IF and be effective against fully loomed (bow\arrows) archer? Find noob archer without looms and kill him for pleasure.
Really, your suggestion slowly demote to Michael, Leshma and other professional weepers level.

[[ptx]]

Yes, bullshit indeed, Gurnisson, stop making it up.

[Siiem]

Stupid Gurnisson thinking that this mod could possibly be about anything else than LOOOOOOMS!!!!!11!

[Tears of Destiny]

Stupid Gurnisson thinking that this mod could possibly be about anything else than LOOOOOOMS!!!!!11!

What a dumb mod, if six heirloom points from a high PD can defeat a low-spectrum 0 heirloomed mail outfit protecting a non-durable melee build.

Mod is dead.

[Gurnisson]

Your main Gurni is an awlpiker that gets two shot by MW rus MW bodkin arrows with similar damage potential, I must say I find it rather amusing however also disgusting that archers can get such a stupidly high amount of pierce damage.

Haven't used awlpike in like... months?

So, you wanna have lightest nonloomed armor, 0 IF and be effective against fully loomed (bow\arrows) archer?

Yes, mail is clearly the lightet non-loomed armor.  All I've ever said is that I don't think archers should one-shot and I stand by that. Any non-retarded archer can get in two shots

What a dumb mod, if six heirloom points from a high PD can defeat a low-spectrum 0 heirloomed mail outfit protecting a non-durable melee build.

Missed the point yet again. I expect to die from projectiles and I do that a lot, but one-shot without speed bonus, nor from an elevated position, now really? Two shots on that build is okay, no problem.

[[ptx]]

Nevermind my previous post, Gurnisson, i believe you now, my 50 body armor/8IF/24str guy just got onehit by a lvl6 peasant armed with a stick! NERF PEASANTS! NERF STICKS!