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Title: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Bull on January 13, 2011, 12:46:35 am
Hi folks,

First off, so I don't draw flames, cRPG MBW is hands down the most addictive game I've ever played. I love it. I don't think I'll be leaving the game any time in the future, as it's totally free and kicks the tar out of most pay-to-play games.

That being said, is anyone out there playing another game that they'd recommend? I'm looking for another one to kill the time, when I tire of the intensity of manual blocking and arrow dodging. Here are some titles I've enjoyed, and if you've got similar interests and can suggest something else, please do:

Dragon Age
Elder Scroll Series
Dark Age of Camelot
Medieval: Total War (Including I & II, and Rome)
Warhammer Online
(sorry) World of Warcraft
Fable
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Kafein on January 13, 2011, 01:41:09 am
Try other Bioware RPG's (including oldies).

And ALL Paradox Interactive games. They are all masterpieces of their art.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Airith on January 13, 2011, 02:12:49 am
This is just a list of what's on my desktop:
Homeworld 2 (old)
Warcraft 3: Frozen Throne
Starcraft II
Company of Heroes Online (beta)*
Battlefield 2 (old)
War Rock
Star Wars Galaxies (the old version that is being run by players)
Halo 2 PC
World of Tanks (beta)*
Minecraft*
Counterstrike Source
Left 4 Dead 2

The ones with stars are games that are unique, like Warband, imo. Can't say anything about your list (DAoC is pretty old; was good, WoW is a lifestyle not a game, never played the others)
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: PhantomZero on January 13, 2011, 02:32:47 am
Try other Bioware RPG's (including oldies).

And ALL Paradox Interactive games. They are all masterpieces of their art.

Only the expansions or community-mod packs. Don't ever buy a paradox game that is the first in the series, or was released in the past 3 months.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: MadScientist22 on January 13, 2011, 02:54:10 am
Try other Bioware RPG's (including oldies).

And ALL Paradox Interactive games. They are all masterpieces of their art.

^ This. Those two studios still take up most of my gaming time. Though Paradox games need some time to breathe so don't try them when they've just been put out. I'd highly recommend trying out the Europa Universalis and Mass Effect (which only very slightly edges out DA) series from these studios.

Also agree with the recommendation on The Elder Scrolls but the updating of Fallout is amazing too.

Since you see seem to like RPGs, I'd very highly recommend The Witcher. It has great combat and graphics and an amazing story and they outshine even Bioware when it comes to making choices. For nearly every major plot choice I really had to think about it and there was nearly never a clear cut superior response. That is, a lot of the time you don't know what the 'good' or even the 'evil' choice is. On a couple of them I just walked away because I couldn't decide.

The Civilization series is also really addictive if you're into turn-based strategy. Oh, and Sid Meier's Pirates! is a great deal of fun and has something in it for pretty much everyone.

Valve's Team Fortress 2 was the multiplayer game I was addicted to prior to Warband. Don't think I'd be adding anything by recommending the Half-life series but I still recommend it. Portal however is by far my favorite Valve game and is probably the funniest game I've ever played.

And if you've never tried it, Braid is also an amazing game and will bend your mind.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Ishar on January 13, 2011, 03:03:39 am
Nobody ever mentions the Gothic series... OK, the third one was a bitch to play with all the bugs, and the first and second have unconventional controls, but the atmosphere, storyline and characters beat everything else I can think of.
If you can't handle decade-old control systems and graphics, try Risen. It's pretty much the same, just looks better, easier to control, and unfortunately has a completely different world than the Gothic series (copyright reasons, but same developer team)

Also, when it comes to RPGs, Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas can't be ignored. The third one was a bit empty and boring for my taste, and never played Tactics and the console shit Brotherhood of Steel.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: SalmonGod on January 13, 2011, 03:44:04 am
Dwarf Fortress

Stalker Series
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Post by: Eyerra on January 13, 2011, 07:18:36 am
Valve“s.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Dunecat on January 13, 2011, 10:56:25 am
As many good games were mentioned already, I will name good ol' games, that still are worth playing;
Planescape: Torment
Deus Ex (the first one was good, and I'm hoping for third one to be as good as original)
Arcanum
Thief series
Knights of the Old Republic series
Witcher (a single game atm :o) series (as Witcher was mentioned already, I'll name Alpha Centauri instead)
Call of Cthulhu: DCoTE
System Shock / Bioshock series (of which I played only Bioshock 2, but heard good things about earlier games)
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Quirian on January 13, 2011, 11:11:17 am
Europa Universalis 2 & 3
Empire: Total War
Left 4 Dead 2 (online)
Trackmania!!
WC3
IL-2 Shturmovik
Bejeweled Blitz on Facebook (its fucking addictive :D )
Fifa on PS 2 & 3
Title: Rune
Post by: Jean_Luc_Picard on January 13, 2011, 11:19:17 am
Rune is an old game now available for free. In some ways it has better multiplayer combat than M & B because you can dismember people and chase after them while they desperately look for a health pickup to restore thier limbs... or you can beat people with thier own heads/arms. The hit detection is definately more responsive, and there is no such thing as spamming or block crushing. Indoor maps like castles with secret doors and catapults are particularily badass. You can also throw your weapons and your weapons can also use cool rune powers, if you pick up enough runestone power ups. You can also climb around and platform tomb raider style. Singleplayer is totally worthless, however.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Babelfish on January 13, 2011, 05:20:18 pm
Mhm.. There are lots of good games, most of them are rather old tho. Here is some of my all-time-fav games

Baldurs gate 1 & 2
Thief
Arcanum (Dont play as magick user, too easy)
Fallout 1-3 + new vegas
Knights of the Old Republic (the first one, second game was rushed)
Morrowind
Dragon Age
Pirates of the Caribbean (Ubisoft game, dont worry it does not follow the movie plot, or have anything to do with the movies other then name and one appearance)
Heroes of Newerth (Dota, only better imo)
Bloodline heroes (beta, based on WoW arena but using 'trueskill' )
Diablo 1-2
wc3
ME1 (second game had a shit ending)
Batman: Arkham City
Half-life 1-2
Chrono Trigger (Snes)
Super Mario 3
Rome: Total War
Secret of Mana
Max payne 1-2
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Ultima
Mafia
Q3
Deus Ex (3 is coming soon! :D)






Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Bull on January 13, 2011, 05:48:10 pm
Thanks guys. I think I'll pick up Witcher here shortly.

As for those who mentioned the Thief series... lol. That definitely brings up old memories. Forgot to put that series on the list!
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Babelfish on January 13, 2011, 05:58:07 pm
Thanks guys. I think I'll pick up Witcher here shortly.

As for those who mentioned the Thief series... lol. That definitely brings up old memories. Forgot to put that series on the list!

Tbh the witcher is not worth buying. The fighting is awful and the quests and progress in the game feels like a scripted mmo game. ;(

If you want i could give you my cd-key :P
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Erika_Furudo on January 13, 2011, 06:35:39 pm
Try other Bioware RPG's (including oldies).

And ALL Paradox Interactive games. They are all masterpieces of their art.
Bioware still makes RPGs?

I thought they just made dating sims nowadays.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Mala on January 13, 2011, 06:42:56 pm
...
System Shock / Bioshock series (of which I played only Bioshock 2, but heard good things about earlier games)[/i]

There is only System Shock (best games ever) and Bio Shock sucked hard.
Ok to be fair, Bio Shock 1 is similar to System Shock 2, but without of some important features, ingame atmosphere and most important without SHodan.

My current favorites are
Dead Space
Dragon Age
Mass Effect 2 (yeah ME 1 was nice, but fights were too slow and the UI was cruel).
Street Fighter 4 (ahh, i hate Ryu and Ken, and Guile, and Sagat and Blanka and ... )
World of Goo
Drakensang: River of Time (i like the story more than from the original Drakensang. Here you are not the chosen one to save the world, but a simple person at the wrong place to the wrong time)

and some classics

Mario Kart (Haha, power slide and a red turtle shell in your face)
Flood (yeah, survive 42 levels and get overrun by a car :( )
Prince of Persia (the original 2D one)
Simon the Sorcerer 1+2
Gobliiins, Gobliins 2, Goblins 3 and Woodroof - The Schnibble of Azimuth


Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: EponiCo on January 13, 2011, 07:19:07 pm
Arcanum (Dont play as magick user, too easy)

Lol!
Try a gunslinging necromancer. Shoot first, ask questions later.


Not mentioned already
Bloodlines (more or less standard RPG)
Imperialism 2 (very old strategy game with similarities to civilization, should be for free somewhere)
Penumbra series & Amnesia (only played Penumbra but they were great horror games, play them on hardest setting)
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Ishar on January 13, 2011, 07:38:42 pm
Bioware still makes RPGs?

I thought they just made dating sims nowadays.
Nice move.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on January 13, 2011, 09:32:17 pm
Lisa, I respect you more, now that I saw your list ;)
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Michael on January 13, 2011, 10:30:34 pm
Vampire the Masquerade bloodlines - best game ever afaik you can get it for free on steam


Kieron Gillen of EuroGamer admired the accomplished and "effortlessly intelligent" script, claiming that "no other game has come close. Nothing's even tried."

Unlike most CRPGs, the experience needed to increase stats and skills is not awarded for killing enemies. Experience points are awarded solely for completing quests, no matter how many creatures the player eliminates in the process (though the quest objective often involves killing). This encourages the player to complete quests in creative ways and significantly increases the game's replay value.

The game invokes two other unique penalties and rewards for certain behaviors in the game's non-quest (i.e. non-combat) areas. Players are penalized for exhibiting vampiric abilities in front of humans by the loss of Masquerade points, which can also be reinstated by performing actions to protect the Masquerade. If the player loses 5 Masquerade points, the game ends. Also, the player is able to gain and lose "humanity" points, which have an impact on how well the character can be controlled when his or her blood supply is low.

The storyline of the game is dynamic. This comes not only from the presence of numerous optional quests, but also from the existence of several different endings, see below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire:_The_Masquerade_%E2%80%93_Bloodlines
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Babelfish on January 13, 2011, 11:31:46 pm
Vampire the Masquerade bloodlines - best game ever afaik you can get it for free on steam

How could i forget that game >_<
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Artyem on January 14, 2011, 12:22:27 am
Garrysmod
Red Orchestra
Darkest Hour (Mod for Red Orchestra)
Civilization (any of them)
ARMA 2
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Dunecat on January 14, 2011, 10:25:55 am
How could i forget that game >_<
Same way I did. ._.
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Post by: Siiem on January 14, 2011, 12:13:43 pm
Achtung Die Kurve.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Food on January 14, 2011, 04:12:47 pm
Don't ever buy a paradox game that is the first in the series, or was released in the past 3 months.
Crusader Kings.

game set match




X3:Terran Conflict, best game ever made, hope u got a good computer lol
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Phazey on January 14, 2011, 04:38:48 pm
If you like shooting:
Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2
Team Fortress 2
Battlefield Bad Company 2
Counter Strike

If you prefer clicking:
League of Legends (free)

I enjoyed Mass Effect 2 also, fun game. Lots of friends playing Fallout Las Vegas too.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: cutsomecheesewithmybow on January 14, 2011, 04:48:28 pm
All the other computer games bow before Planescape: Torment.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Food on January 14, 2011, 06:17:11 pm
ummmmm were talking about video games not novels
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Post by: Dunecat on January 14, 2011, 06:24:05 pm
ummmmm were talking about video games not novels
Stop trolling and/or ignore poorly written walkthrough labeled as "novel". If you to know what's it about, experience the original, play the game.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Gorath on January 14, 2011, 06:34:22 pm
Planetside....
owait, waiting on the sequel at this point.   :cry:
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: SalmonGod on January 14, 2011, 06:40:03 pm
(click to show/hide)

Also, The Tale of Baldedgilds (log of my current fortress).

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=71025.msg1730441#msg1730441 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=71025.msg1730441#msg1730441)
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Gorath on January 14, 2011, 07:11:53 pm
I still feel pretty clueless about Dwarf Fortress, which everyone always raves about.

I mean I get that gameplay > graphics but:
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I still don't see the appeal.  I may have to give it a try but wtf is the game even about?

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Just hard to get sold on a game when the screenshots look like something I was playing back on the old T.I. cartridge based home computer in the mid-80's.
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Post by: Erika_Furudo on January 14, 2011, 07:20:19 pm
There is a mod that gives it color tiles instead
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Post by: Dunecat on January 14, 2011, 07:45:44 pm
I still feel pretty clueless about Dwarf Fortress, which everyone always raves about.

I mean I get that gameplay > graphics but:
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I still don't see the appeal.  I may have to give it a try but wtf is the game even about?

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Just hard to get sold on a game when the screenshots look like something I was playing back on the old T.I. cartridge based home computer in the mid-80's.
Get a tileset from Dwarf Wiki.
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Post by: Mamachew on January 14, 2011, 08:14:09 pm
I would add if you want to stick with the medieval theme and like/don't mind RTS:

Stronghold: Crusader

Yes it's an old game, but you have so much you can do! Look it up, it isn't a hard game to find.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Dunecat on January 14, 2011, 08:29:01 pm
I would add if you want to stick with the medieval theme and like/don't mind RTS:

Stronghold: Crusader

Yes it's an old game, but you have so much you can do! Look it up, it isn't a hard game to find.
The last time I played it, it congratulated me with a Christmass.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: SalmonGod on January 14, 2011, 08:29:47 pm
Graphic tilesets help.  There are also a couple more advanced visualizers that are less for gameplay and more for viewing your fortress landscape in actual 3d, which is really nice.

The appeal in Dwarf Fortress is the vast range of possible game experiences -- near infinite -- due to procedural generation and limitless possible playstyles.  Advanced graphics for the game are nearly impossible or wouldn't do the game justice due to the detail in which randomly generated events are described.  I swear in one fight, I was told that an enemy axe swing severed the hair from a dwarf's left thumb.

Some people play it to build impressive architectural projects.  Some play it for the !!science!! exploration of its deeper game mechanics, such as the physics engine (things like building magma cannons or computational devices).  Others play it purely for the epic combat. 

Personally, I play it for the deep emergent narrative, as you can see from reading mine or any of the other famous LP's.  The events are so interesting and varied, and the game offers you an impressive amount of description of everything that happens while leaving you enough blank space to fill in on your own that you can take these building blocks and make them into a cohesive story.  Every creature has its own unique detailed personality and physique, which has actual consequences on gameplay, and its own psychological and physical needs which make for tons of interesting situations.  Not to mention every world is generated from scratch, from geological systems based on real life to the political interactions of civilizations built by intelligent creatures over time.

Just read the first few posts in The Tale of Baldedgilds.  Everything I describe actually happened in the game.  I cut out some unnecessary details and altered others slightly for cohesion.  The dialogue I completely made up, as there is none actually in the game.  Everything else actually happened in the game according to random generation.  There was an epic, bare-fisted battle with two gargoyles.  One of my dwarves did start a massive grass-fire that burned the entire landscape to ashes in the midst of this battle.  One of those gargoyles really woke up suddenly from unconsciousness and ripped the guts out of one of my dwarves with its teeth before succumbing to death.  That dwarf happened to be Pillarmarket's only friend, and she flew into a berserker rage from the grief and beat two of her injured companions to death.  Even the means of death are accurately translated from the game.  Pillarmarket's two victims actually died of suffocation as one had his lungs ripped apart as his rib cage shattered into them, and the other had her throat punched in.  Dwarf Fortress has no HP system, as it actually simulates the bodily functions of its creatures, including every layer of tissue, blood flow, breathing, etc.  The only ways a creature dies are from blood loss, suffocation, starvation, dehydration, disease, or brain damage.

Edit:

I admit, though, it's really hard to get into at first.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Ishar on January 14, 2011, 09:02:04 pm
I once tried Dwarf Fortress, but couldn't even control it. OK, the game is so complex, no graphics could handle the depth. Still, we're talking about '80s controls. Surely there would be a BIT more user-friendly option.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: SalmonGod on January 14, 2011, 09:08:07 pm
I once tried Dwarf Fortress, but couldn't even control it. OK, the game is so complex, no graphics could handle the depth. Still, we're talking about '80s controls. Surely there would be a BIT more user-friendly option.

Yeah, the interface is pretty bad.  It's the main obstacle, not the graphics.  The game is still technically in alpha.  The developer is focusing on adding features, and doesn't want to overhaul interface or related things until the game is more complete.  It's understandable, considering the needs of the interface and such will change with the feature set.  It doesn't make much sense to put too much effort into them at this point.

There are some tools that make things much easier.  Dwarf Therapist is a must have, for instance.  It takes all of the dwarf labor management into a separate app and allows you to view most things about them also.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Food on January 14, 2011, 10:54:06 pm
Stop trolling and/or ignore poorly written walkthrough labeled as "novel". If you to know what's it about, experience the original, play the game.
i have 'played' it plenty of times, its more like reading a novel than actually playing a game though.  a really good interactive novel.

X3 best game ever still, I wish I could describe it well enough without sperging out for ten thousand words


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNkeC8aWk8s&feature=fvst     this might help.  this is just the combat.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Ishar on January 14, 2011, 11:14:47 pm
Also, The Tale of Baldedgilds (log of my current fortress).

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=71025.msg1730441#msg1730441 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=71025.msg1730441#msg1730441)

I enjoy reading Dwarf Fortress stories like this far more than the actual game. The controls could sure use a hug... the developer can add literally limitless features to it (honestly, there's no reason to stop at space travel), but it's still a pain in the ass to play. With even a little basic post-1990 interface, it could be the world's best game ever. Keep the descriptions: that worked well for Fallout 1-2 for example, but lose the fuckin ASCII interface, give me some 2D pixels and a mouse pointer!

As it is now, it's too frustrating for me to try again.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: SalmonGod on January 14, 2011, 11:30:48 pm
but lose the fuckin ASCII interface, give me some 2D pixels and a mouse pointer!

This much can be done.  There's a mod that attempts to make more of the interface interactive with the mouse, and there are plenty of 2d graphic tilesets.  Of course that doesn't make the interface better organized and the visuals are still pretty abstract.  It's definitely not a game for anybody.

Improvements will be made, though.  In about a month, he claims he's going to dedicate a release just to big-fixes and playability.  And he does have a limited set of features planned that will eventually be finished.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Ishar on January 15, 2011, 12:40:20 am
I don't care much for graphics (Warband isn't exactly COD Black Ops either), so if the GUI becomes actually better than my worst nightmare, I'll give it another shot.

Yeah, I tried it with a tileset, but that's just a graphic improvement, doesn't change the way you control the game, and that's what's messed up.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Guduk on January 15, 2011, 11:52:14 pm
All the other computer games bow before Planescape: Torment.

This guy knows what he's talking about.
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Post by: Michael on January 16, 2011, 12:02:48 am
How could i forget that game >_<

No idea. How did you dare? The developers are semi-gods for me.

If I had the money I would make a movie with that stuff - that would rock!

All those NPCs, Nines, Beckett, LaCroix, they are so awesome, its a shame really that Troika is no more.

But this is only another proof that quality alone is not enough. =(
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Babelfish on January 16, 2011, 12:39:28 am
All the other computer games bow before Planescape: Torment.

Awesome game, for its time period. BG2 on the other hand is a timeless classic =)
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Post by: Ishar on January 16, 2011, 01:56:40 am
About Dwarf Fortress:

(click to show/hide)
Damn, this should be the absolute minimum. Slap on some GUI and it would be sooo awesome...
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: RandomDude on January 16, 2011, 02:53:23 am
man i wish i was more interested in dwarf fortress now but it seems like there's no challenge for me any more

i even start with nothing, only my 7 dwarves, on the shittiest terrain i can find, and once i get them a constant food source and the start of a home, knowing that I can go on to build a mighty fortress from there, i get bored

i still play it now and again for adventurer mode

im hoping that when the army arc is completed etc, i will find more fun playing it again
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Post by: Noctivagant on January 16, 2011, 03:53:14 am
moonstone
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: SalmonGod on January 16, 2011, 04:20:32 am
About Dwarf Fortress:

Damn, this should be the absolute minimum. Slap on some GUI and it would be sooo awesome...

Ya it would be nice to play straight through Stonesense, and plenty of fans have been calling for it for a long time.  It may happen someday.  You can set it up to run parralel to the game and update the image according to a frequency you set, so you don't have to look at the DF map anymore.  You still have to use the same old GUI, though. 

I had the same problem as you at first, though.  I was interested in the game for a couple years and looked at it a few times and gave up in minutes.  Then I read Boatmurdered and decided, "Ok.  That's it.  I'm learning this game.  Tonight."  After I was determined to push through the initial confusion, I found that getting playably comfortable with the interface only took a couple hours.  After a few days of playing, you can do most functions in the game reasonably quickly.  Of course it helps if you've played any roguelikes before.

man i wish i was more interested in dwarf fortress now but it seems like there's no challenge for me any more

i even start with nothing, only my 7 dwarves, on the shittiest terrain i can find, and once i get them a constant food source and the start of a home, knowing that I can go on to build a mighty fortress from there, i get bored

i still play it now and again for adventurer mode

im hoping that when the army arc is completed etc, i will find more fun playing it again

Been paying attention to the features of the next release?  It looks like it will change things a lot.  I imagine we'll have to be much more careful with our production and use of resources.  Politics/trading will also be more crucial.

For the sake of thoroughness

1.  The economy is going to be made completely dynamic with a real system of supply and demand.
2.  More in-depth food production processes and you'll actually have to care for your livestock.
3.  Ores are going to be made less common, making exploratory mining and selective use of metals more important.
4.  I think nearby civs may turn aggressive based on need for resources?  Not sure about this one, but I think I've seen mention of it.
5.  I'm especially excited about the effect this stuff will have on world gen.  It will actually simulate the rise, fall, and migrations of populations based on available resources, trade routes, etc.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Toffi on January 16, 2011, 01:39:50 pm
Nice games have been mentioned so far, my best games would be

The Elder Scrolls 3 Morrowind - epic atmosphere!!!

Age of Empires 2 - great oldie

Mass Effect 1 & 2 - I liked the atmosphere in these games, too
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Silentblade on January 16, 2011, 01:48:38 pm
moonstone

Amen
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Post by: Kalam on January 16, 2011, 02:51:01 pm
Awesome game, for its time period. BG2 on the other hand is a timeless classic =)

Baldur's Gate II was, to me, the best game all-round till Mass Effect 2 came out. And that's...what...ten years later. The Black Isle/Bioware thing pretty much had a monopoly on my early teenaged years, when it came to PC games. Planning on playing through the entire Baldur's Gate series with a few friends soon, with hamachi. Should be epic.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: EyeBeat on January 16, 2011, 04:19:21 pm
I saw someone suggest elder scrolls.  Check out this project coming out.  Looks pretty awesome!

http://daggerxl.wordpress.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g3SzQqf9KBM#

http://videos.videopress.com/oEHkzQ26/daggerfallatnight_fmt1.ogv

Daggerfall completely remade with a new engine?  Yes please!  I thought it was the best elder scrolls game.

Also please tell me the hair on the back of your neck does not stand when you hear "VENGEANNNCCCEEEE" in that second video.

Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Count_RisArch on January 16, 2011, 08:12:42 pm
The Dark Forces: Jedi Knight games, in particualr Jedi Outcast are still very good, even today. While I'll admit the shooting on Outcast was a bit crappy and Dark Forces 1 + 2 have dated somewhat (epic FMVs on 2 though!) the lightsaber combat system in Outcast and its sequel Jedi Academy is the closest I can think of to M&Bs. With the swing direction being controlled by movement and blocking done automatically (as in there is no block button just a % chance, with various modifiers) its not quite as precise nor quite as satisfying but the single player story mode, force powers and variety in multiplayer modes still make these worthy titles.

Also all of the other RPG's listed so far have been darn good suggestions, particularly the Bioware titles if you're a fan of narrative driven RPGs.

And kudos to the guy who linked Vampire the Masquerade : Bloodlines. That truely is one of the most epic (and underrated) games ever made and with the user made mods which increase both the amount of content and iron out the many, many bugs its perfectally playable now. It also strikes me when playing it that Bethesda either A) completely ripped off its conversation system or B) hired the Troika staff when the company went bust. The conversation screens are almost identical to Oblivion-Fallouts. It also makes me laugh how much better the source engine is at capturing facial emotion, despite being released in 2004 the expressions look much better than anything in any of the later Elder Scrolls or Fallout titles.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: RO_FearMyArrow on January 25, 2011, 11:45:16 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y6EMMhDCGo

Goose bumps anyone? :)


I would like you all old times gamers to try a very interesting title, Men OfWar. It's a game done by a small company that does not have to comply to stupid limitations due to retardness of current pool of players or console players.
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Post by: Phazey on January 25, 2011, 02:52:41 pm
Funny to see you 'pro' struggle with dwarven fortress because of... dated graphics? And keyboard-only, text based controls?  :lol:

It's a game that takes a bit of reading and a bit of getting used to. Trust me, the keyboard controls are a blessing once you know them by heart.
And the graphics? Doesn't matter, isn't revelant for such a game.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Balton on January 25, 2011, 03:29:08 pm
Just read about Dwarf Fortress and immediately downloaded it, currently in the process of having my world generated, very excited.
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Post by: krampe on January 25, 2011, 03:55:35 pm
No idea. How did you dare? The developers are semi-gods for me.

If I had the money I would make a movie with that stuff - that would rock!

All those NPCs, Nines, Beckett, LaCroix, they are so awesome, its a shame really that Troika is no more.

But this is only another proof that quality alone is not enough. =(

Seems like it doesn't run with Win7  :?
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: SalmonGod on January 26, 2011, 06:32:20 am
Just read about Dwarf Fortress and immediately downloaded it, currently in the process of having my world generated, very excited.

If you need any help (and you almost certainly will at some point), the forums and wiki are both very nice.  Great community.
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Post by: Gnjus on January 26, 2011, 12:06:53 pm
Grom. Terror in Tibet.  :)

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Post by: Christo on January 26, 2011, 11:56:37 pm
If you like Diablo-styled RPG-s, Try Divine Divinity. It's a masterpiece.
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Game can be a bit glitchy, but the atmosphere and the wonderful soundtrack sucked me in instantly.
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Post by: SalmonGod on January 27, 2011, 12:57:33 am
Instantly fell in love with Magicka.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Thomek on January 27, 2011, 02:27:03 am
Ah.. games and lists. The bane of my life.

I'll list some of my underdogs. Games you might not know, but are excellent.

Su-27 Flanker: (v.1.5 i believe was the best one)
1996 russian flight sim. Very accurate, and cool, only 1 aircraft. You can program whole battle-environments with SAMs and ships, and strike groups. Fly over Crimea and have relatively realistic dogfights.. Or just set up scenarios. Very very cool game with crappy graphics.

Also check out Flanker 2.0, bit bug-ridden but much better gfx, more units etc.

Il2 Sturmovik series
Hands down best wwII combat flight sim I know about. Also russian developer. My favourite aircraft was the FW-190. It models how bullets ricochets inside aircraft, if there is a hole in the radiator etc. You can manually work on the engine control with a shot-up plane.. Also has a huge amount of flyable aircraft and... It's also mp-online!

Panzer General 1994
Great great strategy game. Very simple, with a bit daunting graphics because at first glance all the units look the same. Anyway, if you feel like winning the war for einstein this is it. (Civ 5 stole the whole tactic system, and was released, what a month ago? 17y later..)

Transport Tycoon/Openttd
Online train and transport network building. Becomes boring after you built your first 12 track station, some huge junctions, getting supplies from all over the map on your interconnected transport network. (Some people go on with creating supercomplex junctions, regulating pulses of trains etc, but that's for the extreme nerds..)

I'd really like to hear about more great, deep and unknown games though!

I care about games, and find them extremely interesting to study. There are so many, I guess even unexplored possibilities as a new medium. They are even very hard to describe, dunno if there is even existing terms for defining what they are as they encompass art, storytelling, puzzles, reactions, films, interactivity and competition. I'm studying film and even that is extremely complex and difficult material as it encompasses most of the other mediums. Well games encompasses film again, and multi player games encompasses single player games..

Game-designers are the Artists of the future. (Hear that chadz? Know where your responsibility are!)

Anyway.. cRPG is the new shit for me. Much more complex mechanics than 99% of shooters, demands quicker reactions, judgement and knowledge, and after banner balance, opens up for teamplay on a new level, even mimicking historical strategies. And it gives me kicks. No game since.. I dunno, has given me that.

See for me the good thing is not the graphics or if things are "historical" by nature. I care much more if the game somehow simulates a battlefield with it's advantages and con's, teamplay and tactics. Trying to balance between that and internal game-balance. (Reason for my change-cav post)
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Ishar on January 27, 2011, 10:08:11 pm
I assume everyone on the planet saw this, but still:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVuuyRGB_BA
After twelve fucking years, it should be.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Wewa on January 27, 2011, 10:18:03 pm
Star Wars Galaxies. By far The BEST online game ever.
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Post by: Ledrion on January 29, 2011, 08:07:01 pm

My vote for best online game ever (mmorpg):
ultima online (uor started downhill destroyed with the trammel expansion)
 graphics where 2d and nothing compared to eq but sandbox gameplay trumped all.
  have played some player run shards but still will never be the same. ever.


online race game:
motor city online - sure had its problems but still a great game that is no more.

A great game still going but haven't played in long time
World War 2 Online - i think its battleground europe now
  air sea land battles with real physics engine.
  enjoyed this game for many years until joystick gave up and haven't replaced.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Ishar on January 29, 2011, 10:48:50 pm
I got into Dwarf Fortress again, with a bit of success this time. All is fine and all, great game, BUT:
I wanted to go for more battles, building impenetrable fortresses with no real challenger was not fun for long. So I started at a haunted location - and got ripped to shreds by werewolf with my random team, before I could even train any soldiers. I was thinking- hey, what if I actually set up my team instead of the basic ones? Like, have at least one capabler fighter instead of a fisher and fish cleaner, a wardog instead of a fucking camel, things like that.
I set up my squad, barely touched the inventory (nothing beside the camel-wardog thing). Now my game crashes every time I want to embark with that team. Works fine with random guys though.

What did I mess up?
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Ache on January 29, 2011, 11:10:25 pm
Titan Quest and the addon Immortal Throne.
Dont understand why nobody knows this game. The multiplayer is nice and there are many funny mods.
The only problem is that 90% of the TQ player are cheating.  :rolleyes:
But anyway,it is a really good game and it is sad that there wont be a second TQ.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on January 29, 2011, 11:58:24 pm
Risen
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Post by: SalmonGod on January 30, 2011, 12:32:04 am
I got into Dwarf Fortress again, with a bit of success this time. All is fine and all, great game, BUT:
I wanted to go for more battles, building impenetrable fortresses with no real challenger was not fun for long. So I started at a haunted location - and got ripped to shreds by werewolf with my random team, before I could even train any soldiers. I was thinking- hey, what if I actually set up my team instead of the basic ones? Like, have at least one capabler fighter instead of a fisher and fish cleaner, a wardog instead of a fucking camel, things like that.
I set up my squad, barely touched the inventory (nothing beside the camel-wardog thing). Now my game crashes every time I want to embark with that team. Works fine with random guys though.

What did I mess up?

That's quite baffling.  I would make a bug report for that.  DF is known for plenty of bugs and... err... unintended features... but is also credited with very very rarely actually crashing.  It's never crashed on me.

I would also suggest the Fortress Defense mod for a challenge.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Ishar on January 30, 2011, 01:14:30 am
Also, it was nice and fluid for a while, but today, it became very-very laggy. I looked at the task manager, and DF was using 1 GByte of RAM, and 50% CPU capacity. That's a bit harsh, is that normal?
I deleted my older, (how to put it nicely) less successful regions and saves, restarted my PC, and still slow as hell. Haunted maps take up that much more hardware horsepower or what?

Hm. There are two harpies on level 2419. I'm on 140. Maybe handling 2300 levels is a bit much for the CPU.
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Post by: Babelfish on January 30, 2011, 01:28:45 am
Risen

Risen is pretty decent, it could have been a fantastic game, but bugs and other bad stuff ruined some of the experience.
(although i did run it three/four times :P )
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Ishar on January 30, 2011, 02:01:24 am
Risen is pretty decent, it could have been a fantastic game, but bugs and other bad stuff ruined some of the experience.
(although i did run it three/four times :P )
Hardly any bugs I've seen. Especially after Gothic 3 - now that's a fuckin annoying game. Still beat it 3-4 times, these guys can really design a game, even if the actual coding is messed up to say the least.
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Post by: RandomDude on January 30, 2011, 03:41:42 am
Titan Quest and the addon Immortal Throne.
Dont understand why nobody knows this game. The multiplayer is nice and there are many funny mods.
The only problem is that 90% of the TQ player are cheating.  :rolleyes:
But anyway,it is a really good game and it is sad that there wont be a second TQ.

i bought titan quest but i just felt like "meh" while playing it

i had played a lot of diablo 2 previously and it just didnt seem to be as good and there was nothing new

i think i was sick of having a full inv every 5 mins too

I like Divine Divinity a lot. I always used the 2 handed sword you get near the castle that is a lil overpowered.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Draedan on January 30, 2011, 04:03:10 am
TWO WORLDS II
An extreme upgrade from the first one.
It's pretty awesome.
Online content is the real seller but single player is worth it too.
I've been addicted to it on the PS3 since my graphics card fried.
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Post by: SalmonGod on January 30, 2011, 06:04:48 am
Also, it was nice and fluid for a while, but today, it became very-very laggy. I looked at the task manager, and DF was using 1 GByte of RAM, and 50% CPU capacity. That's a bit harsh, is that normal?
I deleted my older, (how to put it nicely) less successful regions and saves, restarted my PC, and still slow as hell. Haunted maps take up that much more hardware horsepower or what?

Hm. There are two harpies on level 2419. I'm on 140. Maybe handling 2300 levels is a bit much for the CPU.

DF is very CPU and RAM intensive.  It's not very well optimized and tracks tons and tons of data that increases as your fort grows older.  All those levels probably hurt quite a bit, too.  I've never seen anything fly that high before.  I do know people have generated maps with random spires of adamantine that rise up hundreds or in a couple cases thousands of z-levels above ground, and suffer horrible fps right from the beginning.

FPS Death or tantrum spirals are the demise of most forts once you understand the game.

http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Maximizing_framerate

That's the wiki page for maximizing framerate.  The 3 biggest causes of lag are clutter, pathfinding, and fluid physics.  So keep your animal populations low or caged and designate paths for your dwarves to cut down on pathfinding.  Reduce clutter by selling or destroying unecessary items (especially excess rock).  And stop any flowing water that might be causing complex fluid simulation.  Fire is also bad, for more than FPS reasons... but it will really kill your FPS.  Another interesting trick is to mod clothes out of your game.  I removed all cloth clothing, so that everyone wears only leather clothing or armor.  It helped.  Less variety of stuff for the game to keep track of.  Less micromanagement for the player as well.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Noctivagant on January 30, 2011, 08:08:10 am
Sorry if anyone mentioned it before
MAGICKA
you can download the demo on steam, and if you don't like it come here and blame me.

cheers
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Dunecat on January 30, 2011, 08:11:47 am
Sorry if anyone mentioned it before
MAGICKA
you can download the demo on steam, and if you don't like it come here and blame me.

cheers
Funny thing is - you posted it just when I finished pondering of wether the game is or is not worth buying.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: SalmonGod on January 30, 2011, 09:17:54 am
Funny thing is - you posted it just when I finished pondering of wether the game is or is not worth buying.

Have already recommended it once in this thread.  I'll go ahead and recommend it twice.  It's a very fresh experience.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Roran Hawkins on January 30, 2011, 09:33:02 am
Il2 Sturmovik series
Hands down best wwII combat flight sim I know about. Also russian developer. My favourite aircraft was the FW-190. It models how bullets ricochets inside aircraft, if there is a hole in the radiator etc. You can manually work on the engine control with a shot-up plane.. Also has a huge amount of flyable aircraft and... It's also mp-online!

I like that one too, just test the difficulty of landing on a  moving aircraft carrier with a damaged seafighter, and having lost your flaps, or even landing gear inside the battle.





I like Company of heroes very much, it's a WW2 RTS game. It's made as realistic as it could be. When some guy get's caught by heavy artillery or a heavy tank shot (Tiger) he get's blasted into pieces, not bones, realisticly burned pieces. Soldiers who get shot start crying, coughing, screaming on the battlefield, and discover more awesome deaths:twisted:
This game is with capturing and securing territry to cut of supplies from your enemy.

Also check CoH: Tales of Valor, CoH:Opposing fronts



WIC, World in Conflict is a modern RTS, of WW3, Russia attacks USA in Seattle, after they attacked Western Berlin (~1980). NATO and US forces combine to drive back Russia. It has very realistic effects, but less realistic soldier deaths, this is more about vehicles. Nukes leave radio-activity, wich if your camera hovers in makes yor screen go unclear, or even black-out unless you move out the cloud. This game is not with buildings to produce your units, but reinforcements.

Also check WIC: Soviet assault
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Post by: ITHROWSHIT on January 30, 2011, 09:33:08 am
www.bay12games.com
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Ninja_Totoro on January 30, 2011, 09:46:43 am
Garrys Mod. Over 4000 Hours spent on that gem of a game.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: BD_Guard_Bane on January 30, 2011, 10:55:44 am
X3 best game ever still, I wish I could describe it well enough without sperging out for ten thousand words

Didn't see this before  :shock:

But, it is indeed one of the best games ever. I only played X3 TC, not the previous ones, but it's fantastic. It's a weird genre - the best way to describe it is a space sim maybe.

There's a strategic side - the universe has lots of different sectors and different races control them, and have wars or border disputes with each other. There's pirates (any game with pirates is cool), the different races are well thought out and actually feel quite alien.

There's also a fantastic economic system, that is universe wide and contains lots and lots of different resources and production facilities. It is for example possible to have your universe (each played game will be different due to the many variables) go into a recession due to a chain effect from one factory not getting enough resources - its really complex. And the economics obviously affects the military side of things.
You can purchase and build factories or factory complexes, and have freighters to supply them, and eventually become an industrial tycoon with a trading empire spread across the universe.

The combat is also amazing. The interface seems complex at first, because it allows you to pilot ships by yourself (nearly every ship in the game is able to be piloted by you), and at the same time control a fleet of ships in a battle (you have to build the fleet first - buy ships and kit them out, which is expensive but fun - there's loads of different ships and weaponry), but once you play it a bit you realise the interface is perfect. It needs a little practice, but after that its really easy and intuitive.
The way it lets you pilot a ship but also control a large fleet is kind of like if M&B Warband combat system was combined with a Total War game (both fighting in and commanding huge battles), but in space.
Also, you can board ships (you could easily play the whole game as a pirate, stealing and selling ships).

You can also just travel round the universe looking at stuff. There's quite a lot to explore and things to see. And there's the enjoyable moments of entering a sector you didn't realise was hostile, seeing three huge battle ships waiting there and hearing the missile lock alarm go off :)


As well as the open-world type universe, where you can do what you want when or where you want, there are also lots of missions you can accept to get money, and 4 or 5 'main quest' plotlines, which you can do (or not, if you don't want to).

There are also a lot of very good mods for it. Though you have to be careful, because some of them are just cheat mods.

The only way it could get any better would be if they introduced an fps aspect where you could walk around space stations or go down to a planet's surface. But it's a content loaded game already.

Some negative aspects - it has a very steep learning curve the first time you play it. Getting used to the controls is a little tricky at first, and you'll probably get blown up by pirates or weird evil aliens. But there are easy starts (there are a bunch of different start scenarios) that can make that process a little less daunting.
There are a few minor bugs, but there are mods that take care of them. And sometimes the missions can get repetitive, and not all the plot missions have a great plot so to speak, but there are enough things to do that it isn't a problem.

Edit: Also, forgot to mention, the atmosphere is terrific. The music and the sector graphics can really get you feeling like you're alone in a vast, uncaring universe as you pilot your little ship around. I think you can get deep space isolation symptoms just from playing this game. And then you get a weird feeling of relief when you finally dock at a station and hear the AI introduction programme. If you want a game where you end up taking solace from a robotic voice, this is for you!

Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Christo on January 30, 2011, 01:04:53 pm
I like Divine Divinity a lot. I always used the 2 handed sword you get near the castle that is a lil overpowered.

The Sword of Chaos you mean, at the Dwarven village? If you can get a freeze type of it, that's really overpowered, but fun.  :)
I have a problem with the game right now, I'm at the final "chapter", and the game won't teleport me to the wastelands, hurr.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Ache on January 30, 2011, 01:44:25 pm
Jedi Knight Jedi Academy  :D
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: RandomDude on January 30, 2011, 04:57:50 pm
The Sword of Chaos you mean, at the Dwarven village? If you can get a freeze type of it, that's really overpowered, but fun.  :)
I have a problem with the game right now, I'm at the final "chapter", and the game won't teleport me to the wastelands, hurr.

hmm it was some time ago so i dont fully remember =(
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Nogar on January 30, 2011, 06:49:49 pm
Neverwinter Nights!
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Post by: Whalen207 on January 30, 2011, 07:15:01 pm
http://www.garrysmod.com/
The best game ever. Hands down.

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Gmod 10 is about $7.99 (You also need a game with the Source Engine like Hl2 or CS:S)
Gmod 9 is free, but is much less advanced and populated than Gmod 10.





Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Vibe on February 04, 2011, 10:17:02 am
Magicka
Minecraft
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Babelfish on February 04, 2011, 02:48:22 pm
Sorry if anyone mentioned it before
MAGICKA
you can download the demo on steam, and if you don't like it come here and blame me.

cheers

Thanks, tried the game now and i absolutely love it =D
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Noctivagant on February 04, 2011, 05:31:45 pm
Thanks, tried the game now and i absolutely love it =D

If you get the original copy add Noc2d2 on steam, 3 Mercs are already playing it and I don't mind I don't mind finishing the coop adventure one more time.
But be careful steam version is quite buggy.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Dunecat on February 04, 2011, 05:57:36 pm
If you get the original copy add Noc2d2 on steam, 3 Mercs are already playing it and I don't mind I don't mind finishing the coop adventure one more time.
But be careful steam version was is very quite buggy.
I'm still having flashing screen in main menu, navigating through flickering screens only by memory and non-flashing elements. Curiously enough, the game itself works perfectly. And it's a really good game.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Vygar on February 04, 2011, 06:17:46 pm
TWO WORLDS II
An extreme upgrade from the first one.
It's pretty awesome.
Online content is the real seller but single player is worth it too.
I've been addicted to it on the PS3 since my graphics card fried.

I've been playing this one recently as well and I am very surprised how good it is.  I didn't care for the first that much. 
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: jspook on February 04, 2011, 06:39:26 pm
Seeing as this is a modding community, you guys should appreciate MWLL (http://'http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/').  Really fun mech warrior mod on the crysis engine

My top 10 are:
X-Com UFO defense
WIC
L4D series
Rainbox Six: Raven Shield
AVP Classic 2000 (steam edition.  I also have the original and gold edition on cd.  but they dont run on win 7)
Shattered Horizon  (totally under-advertised, completely awesome shooter)
Total War gaming series (shogun is still my favorite, but empires is up there)
Diablo II
Quake 3  (and subsequently the Quake Live (http://"www.quakelive.com") project)
Dota ( I play HON now, but played dota non-stop for like 6 years)

shout out for:
System Shock 2  (omg awesome game)
Homeworld (original is waaaaaaay better than homeworld 2)
Company of Heroes  (lots of good times)
Deus Ex
C&C Generals, zero hour
Supreme Commander
X-Wing, Tie Fighter  and X-Wing, Alliance
Xenogears
Silent Hill
Halo
Tomb Raider (the first one)

Oh, and I forgot Die by the Sword
best game ever.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Ishar on February 04, 2011, 08:22:30 pm
Die By The Sword is great in multiplayer (so much fun), but the single-player campaign beat me, threw me to the ground, chopped me to pieces, and then pissed on my remains. Hardest game I ever saw.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: jspook on February 04, 2011, 08:27:03 pm
and one of the most fun.  we still play it LAN parties when we have our clan yearly.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Alex_C on March 12, 2011, 11:57:00 pm
http://games.adultswim.com/robot-unicorn-attack-twitchy-online-game.html

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Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: EponiCo on March 13, 2011, 12:22:28 am
Well, flash games are never really worthy except for a few minutes.
The dolphins are cute though, so I guess we can let it stand here.


Don't know if it has already been mentioned but Jagged Alliance 2 was quite cool and I don't think they're making games like this anymore without screwing them.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Furax on March 13, 2011, 01:57:51 am
Fallout 1, 2, 3 and new vegas.
Warcraft 3/TFT and any custom maps there within.
UFO afterlight.
Counter strike 1.6.
Battlefield 2.
Every single game of the total war series.
Colonization(ancient game but kickass).
Civilzation series.
Policequest all the way to swat.
Knights of the old republic.
Natural farm killers(haha such a hilarious game).
Deer hunter series.
Jagged alliance series.
The older Commandos games.
Corsairs(never found anywhere to buy or download this game fullversion :().
Hitman series.
Command and conquer series.
Delta force land warrior(mostly for lan awesomeness)
Grand theft auto 1 and 2.(newer versions dont feel right if not on console)

Some excellent free multiplayer games: Allegiance(space fighter/command/build simulator),
Call of combat(not for ragers, you will kill yourself, only reason I stopped playing was excessive raging..Awesome game and community)

Both games have rather small and devoted communities.

Ahh.. most of the games here have probly been mentioned, and there are so many more.. just cant think of them at the moment=/
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: ManOfWar on March 13, 2011, 04:05:04 am
Did anyone ever play a game called lords of magic?
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Sphinxer on March 13, 2011, 04:27:23 am
My top 10 are:
X-Com UFO defense

My #1 of all time is X-Com UFO Defense (Also called Enemy Unknown) The sequel X-Com : Terror from the Deep was good too , less buggy but not as good as the 1st one. I didn't particularly liked Apocalypse.

#2 -  M.A.X - Mechanized Assault & Exploration : Classic turn based strategy game with ressources. No luck involved , it's all about pure tactics (range/stealth/armour)

#3 - Freelancer : A classic, too bad Microsoft Games pulled the plug on the sequel. Many awesome mods available and MP is great.

#4 - The Elder Scroll series (Morrowind + exp. / Oblivion + exp)

#5 - Diablo 1 & 2

#6 - Mass Effect 1 & 2

#7 - Age of Wonders 1 & 2

#8 - Lords of the Realm II

#9 - Fallout 1,2,3 (Haven't played vegas yet... shame)

#10 - Heroes Might & Magic I,II,III,IV (not V)


For Multiplayer ..  CS 1.6 , CS Source, Ragnarok Online, Freelancer, Day of Defeat,




Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Nemeth on March 13, 2011, 12:08:18 pm
How does the multilayer in freelancer work? I know I played it and it was like the best space action I've ever played, didn't really focused on MP though. This makes me wanna install it again.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Sphinxer on March 13, 2011, 12:29:19 pm
There are just sooo many mods .. if you play straight multiplayer .. you start like in SP but no storyline .. you do missions / mining / trade and get bigger and bigger and you get to cross with other people that can pvp you... many people go get the Very Heavy Fighters and camp the planet and do missions or farm nomads or go get the unique weapons..

But the mods are nicer , you can control battleships , gunboats, etc.. and you can have big fights with other people
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Sphinxer on March 14, 2011, 09:05:18 pm
*bump*

Keep that thread going
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Post by: Erika_Furudo on March 14, 2011, 09:12:57 pm
*bump*

Keep that thread going
No real need to bump the thread when it is on the top 5 topics in this section.



Anyhow:
The preloader for Shogun 2 just started.
With Shogun 2 releasing in a few hours.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: [ptx] on March 14, 2011, 09:23:01 pm
Old and hard strategy games -
Populous 3: The Beginning (struggling to complete the game on my... 4th or 5th attempt right now.)
State of War (Virtually unknown, low budget RTS, same as with populous.)
Dungeon Keeper
Celtic Tales: Balor of the Evil Eye... or something like that (1994 DOS game, TBS, fun and addictive, but has a somewhat hard end, failed on my first playthrough, can play it on DosBox now.)
C&C Tiberian Sun (Old favourite, also best basebuilding of C&C series)

Some newer stuff:
Dwarf Fortress (Never really managed to get into the game because of the interface mostly, but following its development progress, hoping that it becomes more accessible to me within a lifetime)
Age of Empires III (Great fun in multiplayer with friends!)
Dawn of War (Even greater fun in multiplayer with friends, very fast-paced RTS, Dark Crusade is the best expansion to it.)
Borderlands (If you have 3 friends that you can regularly play together with, then this is good)
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Baggy on March 14, 2011, 10:19:55 pm
Rome Total War(With mods of course, EB RS II etc..)
Medivel 2 Total War(With SS or TATW)
Nearly any Paradox game.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: jspook on March 15, 2011, 01:37:32 am
C&C Tiberian Sun (Old favourite, also best basebuilding of C&C series)

Great game.  Still think "Generals: Zero Hour" was better though.
Hated to play against peeps that liked using the tunneling apc.  HAH.  I remember using the EMP cannon and air dropping an MKII into someones bases.  lol, good times
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: AlfalphaCat on March 15, 2011, 03:37:03 am
I will have to second Mechwarrior Living Legends.  Great mod, great progress, best of all it is Battletech!!!! :D :D :D :D

Also World of Tanks is fun. :D :D

Actually Warband/cRpg is what I play when I am not playing these.

http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php/topic,8346.0.html (http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php/topic,8346.0.html)
http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php/topic,10642.0.html (http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php/topic,10642.0.html)
http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php/topic,13010.0.html (http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php/topic,13010.0.html)

Rock on folks...


Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Christo on March 15, 2011, 03:39:13 am
Also World of Tanks is fun. :D :D

It's a nice game, I play as a Tank Destroyer/Artillery most of the time. But I stopped playing now, I have 12k gold, but damn, they will wipe everything because of the release..  :cry:

Also you've got a +1 for your Faction Name.
Dat Sabbath.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: AlfalphaCat on March 15, 2011, 03:59:43 am
I just started WoT, so I am still in the lower tiers.  I hear that is where all the fun is at anyways.

I like Light and Medium tanks, just like in MWLL.  Light and Medium 'Mechs FTMFW!!! :D

Yeah, faction is all MWLL folks(come on Strategus!!)
Black Sabbath + M&B = match made in heaven!!
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Christo on March 15, 2011, 04:06:02 am
I just started WoT, so I am still in the lower tiers.  I hear that is where all the fun is at anyways.

I like Light and Medium tanks, just like in MWLL.  Light and Medium 'Mechs FTMFW!!! :D

Yeah, faction is all MWLL folks(come on Strategus!!)
Black Sabbath + M&B = match made in heaven!!

Yeah, it will get frustrating at higher tiers.

Also, Sabbath + M&B combo is one of the best. Try Sabbra Cadabra. Man I move with the music on my character. Awesome.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Formless on March 15, 2011, 05:21:55 am
Rome Total War(With mods of course, EB RS II etc..)
Medivel 2 Total War(With SS or TATW)
Nearly any Paradox game.

Definitely any Total War game, except for Empire.  Anyone play Shogun II yet?  I think it just came out.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Roran Hawkins on April 08, 2011, 11:40:29 am
Yes, it's released, waiting for enough money to buy it+brotherhood
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Otaku_HyeZa on April 08, 2011, 12:14:10 pm
I like all genres :) my favourites the:
- fallout series
- mechwarrior / meccommanders
- newer winter nights 1-2
- Baldurs gate and same type games
- Champions of Norath (Ps2)
- Diablo 1-3
- Starcraft 1-2
- warcaft 1-3 + wow
- Morrowind
- Rome : total war and all totalwar series
- Empire earth series
- Civilization series
- Settlers series
- Need for Speed series
- Fifa and football manager games
- NBA series
- Anime rpg's
- Far Cry 1
- Deus Ex
- System Shock 2
- Red Alert 1-2
- Master of Orion 2
- Zanzarah: Hidden portal
- Warhammer games
- and some other :)
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Otaku_HyeZa on April 08, 2011, 12:15:33 pm
+ Warband :)
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Peasant_Woman on April 08, 2011, 12:54:56 pm
Rogue survivor - free topdown apocalyptic freeroam zombie survival game where the only goal is to last as long as possible, includes realistic elements such as the need to eat/sleep, food going bad and becoming exhausted. http://roguesurvivor.blogspot.com/ (http://roguesurvivor.blogspot.com/)
Dwarf fortress - Only had one fortress that didn't descend into anarchy by year 3, adventurer mode can be hilarious.
Floris mod - for warband is pretty good, it got me playing singleplayer again for the first time since a month or two after warbands release.
All paradox games
Worms series (worms 2 on pc and worms 3d on consoles were best imo)
Civilisation series
Fallout series (new vegas was a minor disappointment)
Elder scrolls series (Morrowind was great, oblivion can be great the first play through or with some mods)
Total war series (rome, Medieval 1 and 2 were great, empire and napoleon went downhill, shogun 2 isn't a bad game but doesnt feel like total war anymore)
Dawn of war series
S.T.A.L.K.E.R series
Amnesia: the Dark Descent is pretty terrifying at night in a dark room with the sound way up.

games I play most often, along with crpg obviously.



Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: GMester on April 08, 2011, 02:34:32 pm
Mass Effect, Dragon Age and other Bioware games
FEAR series
The Elder Scrolls series
Star Trek Armada 1-2
Paradox games
Fallout series
Civilisation series
EVE online
Diablo 1-2,Starcraft 1-2
Total War series(I didnt played Shogun 2 yet,but the 1st one was great and the Rome and Medievals were great too,I hated the Empire )
Dawn of War series
Rainbow Six series(Rogue Spear is my favorite because its more tactic based than the Vegas) ,Splinter Cells
Oldies like Master of Orion 1-2,Ufo series, Transport Tycoon,Kings Quest and many more
Minecraft
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Otaku_HyeZa on April 08, 2011, 02:41:39 pm
Eve is very good :) but all too :)
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Mtemtko on April 09, 2011, 08:09:33 am
Currently playing:
Assasins creed brotherhood
World of tanks
R.U.S.E
Battlestations Pacific (derp)
Test drive unlimited 2
Men of war:assault squad

C-rpg is nowhere to be seen untill the patch  :lol:
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: BlackMilk on April 09, 2011, 08:26:21 am
Hearts of Iron 2 Doomsday
Gothic 2 (one of the best rpg's ever made)
GTA San Andreas
NBA 2k9
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 09, 2011, 06:28:48 pm
since some of you were mentioning diablo 1+2 here I strongly recommend you the mod "Back to Hellfire" for Diablo 2 if you think about playing it again. Its basicly recreation of Diablo 1 with  features and engine Diablo 2. Very well balanced and very hard and it captures much of the atmosphere and creepiness of the first title. I spent over a year back in 2008 playing and trying different chars. and the books are back! Mod is no longer worked on and of course no active community but I had a hell of a fun playing it with a friend over ip-connection.

http://bth.hugelaser.com/

Other than that most important games were mentioned. I still wait for an rpg on par with Baldurs Gate 2 especially in therms of story and atmosphere, perhaps combined with a warband-like combat system...

Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Radament on April 10, 2011, 09:15:39 pm
bloody , i suggest you to try Din's Curse if you liked all diablo games and mods .
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Christo on April 10, 2011, 10:26:41 pm
Rise of Nations, playing with friends never gets old.

We just played a 2!! hours long game against a moderate!! opponent and an easy one.

The AI is very smart in that game, lol.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Mtemtko on April 10, 2011, 10:32:17 pm
Rise of Nations, playing with friends never gets old.

We just played a 2!! hours long game against a moderate!! opponent and an easy one.

The AI is very smart in that game, lol.

Oooh, loved that game :P . Too bad i can't install it on my new computer for some reason, some error always shows up.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 10, 2011, 10:44:41 pm
bloody , i suggest you to try Din's Curse if you liked all diablo games and mods .
uh, I never played any other mod than BTH and its not like the others with lots of "uber-stuff", rather the opposite, more atmospheric, more basicly. but thanks for the tip anyways, i might have a look if got the time.

Rise of Nations was great!
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Trippin on April 11, 2011, 10:52:02 am
I fucking love Starcraft, man. Been playing for ten years and I still can't get enough.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Huey Newton on April 11, 2011, 12:10:26 pm
I fucking love Starcraft, man. Been playing for ten years and I still can't get enough.

IS HE BACK
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on April 12, 2011, 11:40:39 pm
Titan Quest and the addon Immortal Throne.
Dont understand why nobody knows this game. The multiplayer is nice and there are many funny mods.
The only problem is that 90% of the TQ player are cheating.  :rolleyes:
But anyway,it is a really good game and it is sad that there wont be a second TQ.


Ahh gawd darn you, you ninja'd me (by a very long time :P)

Yes just..just get it if you like diablo 2!
And also good sir 1 awsome point from me!
The multiplayer is awesome, and we also have a huge community of people in a forum, won't post it in here but if you get it and you want to talk to people about it pm me and I shall give you the link BECAUSE GOD WILLS IT! (I know im sorry.)
And also it has huge amounts of mods and custom maps, do you know why there are huge amounts of custom maps?
Because the map creator is the most simplestic tool i've ever seen!


PS: It also has neekid mod for all you perverts out there!
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Original_Sin on April 14, 2011, 10:53:43 pm
in addition to the games which were mentioned more than 2-3 times already ;o
it will be Pathalogic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathologic).
a kick-ass oldie and music is awesome.
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on April 21, 2011, 05:13:54 pm
Started playing X3: Terran Conflict, i.e. spending 5 hours of reading guides and watching videoguides to figure what the heck is hapening  :|
Title: Re: Other Worthy Games?
Post by: Christo on April 25, 2011, 04:11:16 pm
Just found this game again:Blitzkrieg.

It's a quite old (2002) WW2 Strategy game but I'm amazed by it, the special "drawn" graphics give a cool atmosphere, the gameplay is fantastic, and the voice acting is very professional.

To hell with Company of Heroes, this is the real shit.
(Don't get me wrong, I like CoH, but o.o this is amazing)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNxMvTcsJbk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNxMvTcsJbk)

Tried all the three campaings a little bit, and so far the game is awesome.