What the fuck. Can you imagine what this is gonna be like?
Bribed judges giving the decision to Conor McGregor the golden child. Nobody truly KOs the Diaz brothers. And Conor's ground game is shit. If Conor loses they lose all the hype and money which they don't want to.
Better watch the UFC On Fox 19 card instead https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_on_Fox:_Nurmagomedov_vs._Ferguson and also Bellator 154 instead.
Khabib Nurmagomedov who's an undefeated Russian sambo destroyer of doom is gonna ragdoll Ferguson and plus you also got Lyoto Machida, Rashad Evans, Shogun, Henderson all former champs and veterans facing off against eachother plus some other good matches.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Macropus on February 24, 2016, 02:24:11 pm
Bribed judges giving the decision to Conor McGregor the golden child. Nobody truly KOs the Diaz brothers. And Conor's ground game is shit. If Conor loses they lose all the hype and money which they don't want to.
Better watch the UFC On Fox 19 card instead https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_on_Fox:_Nurmagomedov_vs._Ferguson and also Bellator 154 instead.
Khabib Nurmagomedov who's an undefeated Russian sambo destroyer of doom is gonna ragdoll Ferguson and plus you also got Lyoto Machida, Rashad Evans, Shogun, Henderson all former champs and veterans facing off against eachother plus some other good matches.
Well, nobody ko'ed Aldo for ten or more years, too, until recently. I'm not a fighting expert, and I honestly don't know who's gonna win, but I think this fight is exciting as fuck.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Golem on February 24, 2016, 03:37:14 pm
Just looked at some fights of Nate Diaz. His energy can't compare with Conor's, but he might win, if he can get him on the ground before Conor makes a new socket in his skull. More likely that he's going to get his ribs broken, though.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Molly on February 24, 2016, 07:41:46 pm
Bribed judges giving the decision to Conor McGregor the golden child. Nobody truly KOs the Diaz brothers. And Conor's ground game is shit. If Conor loses they lose all the hype and money which they don't want to.
Better watch the UFC On Fox 19 card instead https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_on_Fox:_Nurmagomedov_vs._Ferguson and also Bellator 154 instead.
Khabib Nurmagomedov who's an undefeated Russian sambo destroyer of doom is gonna ragdoll Ferguson and plus you also got Lyoto Machida, Rashad Evans, Shogun, Henderson all former champs and veterans facing off against eachother plus some other good matches.
Yea, please watch the old men swinging at each other. I mean... seriously? Evans? Shogun? Henderson? :lol:
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: LordBerenger on February 24, 2016, 09:00:58 pm
Just looked at some fights of Nate Diaz. His energy can't compare with Conor's, but he might win, if he can get him on the ground before Conor makes a new socket in his skull. More likely that he's going to get his ribs broken, though.
Energy? You mean he's not overhyping himself like Conor or Ronda does? Because Nick & Nate Diaz's cardio is the best in the MMA world alongside Cain Velasquez.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Turkhammer on February 24, 2016, 09:05:26 pm
It's going to be fun to revisit this thread when the fight is over. :D
If Conor wins he'll be a phenom, if he loses it's understandable due to the jump of two weight classes on extremely short notice. Meanwhile he makes huge (for mma) money. Even if he loses, he wins.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: LordBerenger on February 25, 2016, 12:20:09 am
It's going to be fun to revisit this thread when the fight is over. :D
If Conor wins he'll be a phenom, if he loses it's understandable due to the jump of two weight classes on extremely short notice. Meanwhile he makes huge (for mma) money. Even if he loses, he wins.
If Conor wins (which he will due to bribed judges) it will make no difference. Nate Diaz isn't the top of the top of the MMA world. A win over Nate doesn't make you the GOAT.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Turkhammer on February 25, 2016, 01:00:26 am
If Conor wins (which he will due to bribed judges) it will make no difference. Nate Diaz isn't the top of the top of the MMA world. A win over Nate doesn't make you the GOAT.
LOL you've got such a raging hard on against him nothing he could ever do would be good enough for you. I wonder what you would say if he beat Dos Anjos? Bribed judges, dos Anjos taking a dive, no you used that one for the Aldo match, UFOs, Illuminati? The possibilities for excuses are endless.
Dos Anjos and Aldo injured in training right before a bout? Now there's conspiracy theory material you can get your teeth into.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Molly on February 25, 2016, 12:33:08 pm
Tbh, I am more excited about the banter before the fight than the actually fight. McGregor better standing, Diaz better on the ground - depends where the fight goes. Diaz is arrogant enough to believe he can stand and trade with McGregor.
Everyone should watch any press conference with these two tho. That's where the entertainment should be :)
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Golem on February 25, 2016, 01:29:02 pm
Tbh, I am more excited about the banter before the fight than the actually fight. McGregor better standing, Diaz better on the ground - depends where the fight goes. Diaz is arrogant enough to believe he can stand and trade with McGregor.
Everyone should watch any press conference with these two tho. That's where the entertainment should be :)
True that, but those douchebags in the background are pissing me off.
Energy? You mean he's not overhyping himself like Conor or Ronda does? Because Nick & Nate Diaz's cardio is the best in the MMA world alongside Cain Velasquez.
Dude, he may have the best cardio, but he's slow and off balance, compared to Gregor.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: LordBerenger on February 25, 2016, 02:18:13 pm
LOL you've got such a raging hard on against him nothing he could ever do would be good enough for you. I wonder what you would say if he beat Dos Anjos? Bribed judges, dos Anjos taking a dive, no you used that one for the Aldo match, UFOs, Illuminati? The possibilities for excuses are endless.
Dos Anjos and Aldo injured in training right before a bout? Now there's conspiracy theory material you can get your teeth into.
Until he beats Frankie Edgar, Eddie Alvarez and Khabib legit then he's good. His ground game is shit. Now look what Chad Mendes (if you watched that fight) who was on a 2 weeks training camp on short notice and with shit cardio did against him before he gassed. Now imagine what a full camp wrestler with good ground game does to Conor with good cardio.
Dude, he may have the best cardio, but he's slow and off balance, compared to Gregor.
That's the 420 lazy fighting style. He like his brother Nick throws volume. Pretty weaker than normal punches but many of them to overwhelm you and slip in some heavier ones once in a while, whilst he trashtalks you inside the cage to get you frustrated.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Xant on February 25, 2016, 03:31:02 pm
Until he beats Frankie Edgar, Eddie Alvarez and Khabib legit then he's good. His ground game is shit. Now look what Chad Mendes (if you watched that fight) who was on a 2 weeks training camp on short notice and with shit cardio did against him before he gassed. Now imagine what a full camp wrestler with good ground game does to Conor with good cardio.
He would have fought Frankie but Frankie was injured. Everyone's injured when it's time to fight McGregor. He had 66% takedown defense against Chad Mendes (an elite level wrestler with the best double leg in UFC) and Conor's knee was fucked up in that fight and leading up to it, so he couldn't train properly. Mendes got gassed because of the bodyshots and pressure Conor was putting on him. None of the people you mentioned have the wrestling pedigree of Mendes, who, again, Conor had 66% takedown defense against -- and when he did get taken down, Mendes couldn't get anything done. When he tried, Conor got back up.
He would have fought Frankie but Frankie was injured. Everyone's injured when it's time to fight McGregor. He had 66% takedown defense against Chad Mendes (an elite level wrestler with the best double leg in UFC) and Conor's knee was fucked up in that fight and leading up to it, so he couldn't train properly. Mendes got gassed because of the bodyshots and pressure Conor was putting on him. None of the people you mentioned have the wrestling pedigree of Mendes, who, again, Conor had 66% takedown defense against -- and when he did get taken down, Mendes couldn't get anything done. When he tried, Conor got back up.
Everyone always has excuses, everyone except McGregor, dude didn't even reveal how bad his knee was until after he'd won.
That's not correct. He didn't want to fight Frankie Edgar when Aldo had to pull out of 189. He took Mendes instead. Right now Edgar couldn't take the fight at 196 but that's because he's injured with a groin injury.
And Khabib's wrestling is way better than Mendes and he's a sambo champ so his grappling is already superior as evident in his fights. And then add in the fact that he fucking wrestled with bears as a kid. Conor's ground game is shit as proven before. Look what Khabib did to the champ Rafael Dos Anjos. He ragdolled him. And RDA has dominated the LW division lately. Imagine what he could do to Conor with Conor's shitty grappling and shitty TDD?
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Xant on February 25, 2016, 08:20:00 pm
That's not correct. He didn't want to fight Frankie Edgar when Aldo had to pull out of 189. He took Mendes instead. Right now Edgar couldn't take the fight at 196 but that's because he's injured with a groin injury.
And Khabib's wrestling is way better than Mendes and he's a sambo champ so his grappling is already superior as evident in his fights. And then add in the fact that he fucking wrestled with bears as a kid. Conor's ground game is shit as proven before. Look what Khabib did to the champ Rafael Dos Anjos. He ragdolled him. And RDA has dominated the LW division lately. Imagine what he could do to Conor with Conor's shitty grappling and shitty TDD?
Everything I said is correct, and nothing you just said refuted any of it. Conor took Mendes instead of Edgar because Mendes was higher ranked at the time.
Conor's "shitty grappling" and "shitty TDD" exist only in your delusions. And Mendes is a far superior wrestler than Khabib, even Khabib said he sucked at wrestling. Whether his overall ground game is better is a different kettle of fish.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Gmnotutoo on February 25, 2016, 10:33:54 pm
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Molly on February 26, 2016, 11:28:59 am
Same as above, just cleaner audio.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Turkhammer on February 26, 2016, 06:57:06 pm
Yeah, the take away from the first video was that "no fucks were given".
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Xant on February 26, 2016, 09:10:26 pm
Conor is a free mason and jews control the UFC and fix fights. Conor communicates in numeric sequences. He's a "Master of numbers" The date the fight was announced equals the numeric value of "Broken foot" The book of "Revelation" in the Bible described everything. Fight was cancelled 42 days after announced, 42 is a free mason signature from revelations. 3/5/2016 has the same numeric value as Nathan Diaz If you're a fan of Conor you're a pathetic individual You're all sheep. #WakeUp
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Gmnotutoo on March 01, 2016, 04:19:50 am
Conor is a free mason and jews control the UFC and fix fights. Conor communicates in numeric sequences. He's a "Master of numbers" The date the fight was announced equals the numeric value of "Broken foot" The book of "Revelation" in the Bible described everything. Fight was cancelled 42 days after announced, 42 is a free mason signature from revelations. 3/5/2016 has the same numeric value as Nathan Diaz If you're a fan of Conor you're a pathetic individual You're all sheep. #WakeUp
What if I'm a fan of Nick and Nate Diaz?
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Sir_Hans on March 03, 2016, 01:12:48 pm
Conor is just such lil a bitch. :lol: It's like someone took the brain of some random menstruating prima donna in the club and placed it into the body of some chiseled fighter and added good fighting skills in the mix.
Thank god none of the irish I know have ever acted like connard mcdonald.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: LordBerenger on March 03, 2016, 03:09:42 pm
Conor is just such lil a bitch. :lol: It's like someone took the brain of some random menstruating prima donna in the club and placed it into the body of some chiseled fighter and added good fighting skills in the mix.
Thank god none of the irish I know have ever acted like connard mcdonald.
I'd like to see the Scrap Pack go to the parking lot and beat him up after the show. Then there would be no judges, ref, corrupt Vegas bosses etc.. to save his ass. Maybe knock his head off.
I'd like to see the Scrap Pack go to the parking lot and beat him up after the show. Then there would be no judges, ref, corrupt Vegas bosses etc.. to save his ass. Maybe knock his head off.
Should I bet this shit? I mean, there's like a 0.000000001% chance that Diaz wins, so I might aswell.
There's no way the golden boy a.ka McPussy loses so instead bet all on McFággot so when he wins (even though the payout will be smaller) you'll win some nice cash if you just bet the right amount of money needed.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Xant on March 06, 2016, 01:09:46 am
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Xant on March 06, 2016, 07:12:09 am
Conor wrecked himself. He was so superior in the first round but kept up with his hands-down-clowning-around act even after getting rocked.... and then goes for a take down while still groggy. Jesus.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: LordBerenger on March 06, 2016, 07:17:47 am
1 Great White Hope hypetrain derailed. Brock Lesnar 2.0
Should've never doubted Nate Diaz but man. Now the McGregor lovers can go back to jacking off to Trump lmao.
And now with all hypetrains derailed only 1 more exists in the MMA world. A.ka the #1 P4P Fighter in the world. A.ka Jon Jones
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Golem on March 06, 2016, 07:23:41 am
It was obviously rigged. Nate Diaz gets hype, both get money and Conor doesn't lose belt, because it's off the weight class. It's a win-win for everybody, except the people who bet on Gregor like me. Thankfuly only 5 dollars, but I wanted to bet 50 at first. Shit, I'm so glad.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: //saxon on March 06, 2016, 07:25:43 am
That fight was fucking great while it lasted, just exchange after exchange after exchange. Wish it would of lasted atleast 4 rounds though.
So many people i saw talking shit about nate, that he was shitting his pants leading up to the fight about Conor already won on mind games. knew he would give Conor a run for his money.. never doubt the Diaz bro's.
I'm now £300 up, easy bet easy money. Cheers Nate 8-)
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Xant on March 06, 2016, 07:35:16 am
That was a fluke win by Nate, sponsored by Conor's retardation. Diaz was getting absolutely wrecked, then one punch changed it all.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: LordBerenger on March 06, 2016, 07:46:10 am
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Golem on March 06, 2016, 08:05:38 am
I suspect that Diaz had his glove padding reduced and the refs were paid 'not to notice'. But that's just me. :rolleyes: Also, did you see that highfive Conor did with a fan when he was walking to the cage? I think it was set up and he got a needle in his hand with some shit, his face went crazy few seconds after that.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: LordBerenger on March 06, 2016, 08:13:43 am
I suspect that Diaz had his glove padding reduced and the refs were paid 'not to notice'. But that's just me. :rolleyes: Also, did you see that highfive Conor did with a fan when he was walking to the cage? I think it was set up and he got a needle in his hand with some shit, his face went crazy few seconds after that.
When I predict Conor McPussy winning fixed fights (Aldo fight etc..) it's tinfoil hat theories. But when the great white hope loses it's all okay to whine about that lol.
I told you earlier that Conor has shit ground game. Nate not only has beast BJJ but also trained with Kron Gracie son of Rickson Gracie. Badass mofos on the ground with their GOAT level BJJ.
THAT said. I didn't expect Nate to win. So still a happy surprise.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Gmnotutoo on March 06, 2016, 08:48:18 am
When I predict Conor McPussy winning fixed fights (Aldo fight etc..) it's tinfoil hat theories. But when the great white hope loses it's all okay to whine about that lol.
I told you earlier that Conor has shit ground game. Nate not only has beast BJJ but also trained with Kron Gracie son of Rickson Gracie. Badass mofos on the ground with their GOAT level BJJ.
THAT said. I didn't expect Nate to win. So still a happy surprise.
Conor doesn't have a shit ground game, you derp. Ask Ryan Hall. His ground game didn't even come into play here. He was still shook by the punches when he panic wrestled Diaz.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: LordBerenger on March 06, 2016, 09:30:16 am
Conor doesn't have a shit ground game, you derp. Ask Ryan Hall. His ground game didn't even come into play here. He was still shook by the punches when he panic wrestled Diaz.
He does. And more fighters will prove it in the future. Great White Hope dead. Now who's the next white hypetrain for the bandwagoners to get onto....hmm
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Gmnotutoo on March 06, 2016, 09:33:59 am
He does. And more fighters will prove it in the future. Great White Hope dead. Now who's the next white hypetrain for the bandwagoners to get onto....hmm
Conor is still a beast at 145 and in a few years he'll do good at 155. Most people would've lost to Conor tonight but styles make matches and the Diaz brothers are built to win these types of slug-fests.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Xant on March 06, 2016, 10:10:48 am
He does. And more fighters will prove it in the future. Great White Hope dead. Now who's the next white hypetrain for the bandwagoners to get onto....hmm
He has the best grappling in UFC.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Butan on March 06, 2016, 02:53:56 pm
Great match, quite balanced, Conor made only one mistake and Nate took a couple good punches.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Paul on March 06, 2016, 03:53:42 pm
When will they learn?
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: LordBerenger on March 06, 2016, 05:13:03 pm
He does. And more fighters will prove it in the future. Great White Hope dead. Now who's the next white hypetrain for the bandwagoners to get onto....hmm
They're both white you numpty. I thought you said Conor would win by some combination of bribery, cheating and voodoo. What happened? You can't have it both ways. If he's the "anointed one" (according to you) he wins all the time by suspect means, he doesn't lose. Is his losing just part of your conspiracy theory too? I guess he wins legitimately and he loses legitimately.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Sir_Hans on March 06, 2016, 07:51:51 pm
Connonr lost for one reason and one reason alone...
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Leesin on March 06, 2016, 09:23:58 pm
Good win by Diaz, McGregor lost fair and square, but I do think he looked more sluggish than usual which is puzzling considering he didn't have to cut weight so badly before the fight, he looked like he was tiring even before the second round, his own fault regardless.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: //saxon on March 06, 2016, 11:59:51 pm
he looked like he was tiring even before the second round, his own fault regardless.
I find it funny, just before the second round starts you can hear and see McGregor saying "i can go all day" "all day long i go" then he say's in the post fight interviews that he had bad energy control and lost his energy. Maybe he was talking shit to get into Diaz's head, who knows.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Leshma on March 07, 2016, 12:22:24 am
I find it funny, just before the second round starts you can hear and see McGregor saying "i can go all day" "all day long i go" then he say's in the post fight interviews that he had bad energy control and lost his energy. Maybe he was talking shit to get into Diaz's head, who knows.
Who looks sadder? LOL. By all accounts McG became a millionaire from one fight. Why did all those people pay for PPV? It was to see Conor either get beat or win. They didn't pay to see old monosyllabic doper Diaz. Yeah, Conor is sad all the way to the bank.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Gmnotutoo on March 07, 2016, 06:06:47 am
Who looks sadder? LOL. By all accounts McG became a millionaire from one fight. Why did all those people pay for PPV? It was to see Conor either get beat or win. They didn't pay to see old monosyllabic doper Diaz. Yeah, Conor is sad all the way to the bank.
I paid to watch Conor vs Diaz, I wasn't going to watch it with RDA. I've loved mma for a long time and know the sport very well, both Diaz brothers are fan favorites because they are fun to watch. Nate Diaz is one of the biggest draws on the Fox cards.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Molly on March 07, 2016, 09:20:06 am
Tbh, everyone hoped for some banter during the fight, pushing after round end and overall drama. Both are known for talking during the fight... they didn't deliever :(
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Golem on March 07, 2016, 11:23:27 am
Tbh, everyone hoped for some banter during the fight, pushing after round end and overall drama. Both are known for talking during the fight... they didn't deliever :(
They were talking, but there was no mic near, probably wouldn't be audible anyway.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Molly on March 07, 2016, 11:29:48 am
To be fair... that cocky Irish idiot didn't last long enough for these kind of things to develope properly :P
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Golem on March 07, 2016, 11:40:08 am
Earned a bachelor's degree in mathematics and later earned a master's degree in education.
Take a look at why Nick Denis retired from MMA.
Also, it seemed like everyone I was watching the fight with suddenly liked MacGregor more because of how he took the loss, publicly.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Xant on March 07, 2016, 02:36:52 pm
I don't think McGregor took the loss all too well. He had some shitty excuses, like the "heavier man" thing. Both him and Nick Diaz are lightweights without a water cut, and Nick came in fat at the weigh in. Nick wasn't the heavier man. And he didn't really move up two divisions either for the same reason, they were both fighting at their walking around weight. Fighters in the 170 division walk around at 185-190+.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Macropus on March 07, 2016, 03:57:48 pm
I don't think McGregor took the loss all too well. He had some shitty excuses, like the "heavier man" thing. Both him and Nick Diaz are lightweights without a water cut, and Nick came in fat at the weigh in. Nick wasn't the heavier man. And he didn't really move up two divisions either for the same reason, they were both fighting at their walking around weight. Fighters in the 170 division walk around at 185-190+.
He didn't mean Nate was heavier than him. He meant that he's used that people in featherweight/lightweight fall from such hits he had thrown, while a heavier man like Diaz could take them, which Conor didn't expect.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Xant on March 07, 2016, 04:07:34 pm
He didn't mean Nate was heavier than him. He meant that he's used that people in featherweight/lightweight fall from such hits he had thrown, while a heavier man like Diaz could take them, which Conor didn't expect.
Maybe, it sounded like he was implying Diaz was heavier than him in one of the things he said, but I guess it could be either way. Diaz brothers are known for their good chins, so it really shouldn't have come as a surprise.
Either way, Conor is the most entertaining fighter in the UFC right now, with his agile always-finishing fighting style. He needs to fix the holes in his games, biggest of which are: lack of jab, lack of lead hook, lack of orthodox stance even when in trouble, lack of Muay Thai style leg kicks, and his tendency to block shots with his chin. Regardless of what some people say, it has yet to be proven that ground is a problem for him.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Golem on March 07, 2016, 04:25:01 pm
Woah, Jon Jones acts, speaks and even looks(when you take away the fact that he's black and ripped) just like my father's brother. Gotta bet and hope he'll win me back those 5 bucks + some extra would be nice!
Maybe, it sounded like he was implying Diaz was heavier than him in one of the things he said, but I guess it could be either way. Diaz brothers are known for their good chins, so it really shouldn't have come as a surprise.
Either way, Conor is the most entertaining fighter in the UFC right now, with his agile always-finishing fighting style. He needs to fix the holes in his games, biggest of which are: lack of jab, lack of lead hook, lack of orthodox stance even when in trouble, lack of Muay Thai style leg kicks, and his tendency to block shots with his chin. Regardless of what some people say, it has yet to be proven that ground is a problem for him.
If you ask me, I think Conor would cry like a bitch and made all sorts of crazy excuses, if Ido wasn't there, to talk sense into him.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Xant on March 07, 2016, 05:10:18 pm
Another thing Conor badly needs is level changes in his spinning kicks. 100% high ones are way too easy to block. Thigh level spinning kicks would make the high ones harder to block due to threat of lower kicks, and the thigh kicks are harder to block anyway while usually doing more damage.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: LordBerenger on March 07, 2016, 05:39:36 pm
- That moment when you're getting raped by Nate Diaz and realize that it's better to panic wrestle and fail a takedown and get tapped and have the boxing community and Justin Bieber ( https://www.instagram.com/p/BCmgVtwgvit/ ) as well as casuals think it was gay of Nate to choke his ass out instead of keep it stand up even though Nate was about to KO Conor before he went for the takedown
Another thing Conor badly needs is level changes in his spinning kicks. 100% high ones are way too easy to block. Thigh level spinning kicks would make the high ones harder to block due to threat of lower kicks, and the thigh kicks are harder to block anyway while usually doing more damage.
There are two ways to be a Diaz.
Wrestle them to the ground/cage and keep them in positions where they can't scramble.
The other is S-key leg kicks. S keying in general actually.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Xant on March 07, 2016, 06:00:46 pm
There are plenty of ways to beat a Diaz. Leg kicks are just the obvious weakness. Nate even got tooled on the ground in round 1 by Conor.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Gmnotutoo on March 07, 2016, 06:20:56 pm
Just because a fighter is on his back doesn't mean he is getting tooled, Nate wanted to be there so he could use his expert level jiu jitsu.
:rolleyes:
Yeah, right, Nate wanted to be eating punches from someone on top. Nate wanted to be sweeped. Nate wanted to lose points. That's a retarded argument. It's much easier to defend from the top for the inferior grappler. It's much easier to attack from the top.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Gmnotutoo on March 07, 2016, 06:50:12 pm
Yeah, right, Nate wanted to be eating punches from someone on top. Nate wanted to be sweeped. Nate wanted to lose points. That's a retarded argument. It's much easier to defend from the top for the inferior grappler. It's much easier to attack from the top.
Yeah, that sounds like Nate and Nick Diaz. You should go and watch a lot of their fights.
Nope, it doesn't "sound like Nate and Nick Diaz." No one gives up the dominant position voluntarily when they've been losing the round badly. You should get off the couch and go train some MMA, then watch fights. It'll give you a different perspective, you might even understand what you're seeing.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Gmnotutoo on March 07, 2016, 07:53:20 pm
Nope, it doesn't "sound like Nate and Nick Diaz." No one gives up the dominant position voluntarily when they've been losing the round badly. You should get off the couch and go train some MMA, then watch fights. It'll give you a different perspective, you might even understand what you're seeing.
Why are you so hostile? Does a difference of opinion make you inexplicably mad?
I have trained in karate, judo, wrestling and jiu jitsu. Nate is wicked off his back and I don't think he considers it a position of weakness. For most fighters yes I would agree with your perspective, but you're trying to make sense of a Diaz fight which is absurd within itself. These are the same people who slap their opponents, drop their hands, throw out middle fingers, kick at air for no reason to mock their opponent and generally don't give a fuck about game plans. Nick struck a pose in the middle of the octagon against one of the deadliest strikers in MAA.
He sprawled on Conor's takedown and immediately went to his own back in the 2nd round. Why? Because he is comfortable there and is amazing at triangle holds/guillotine chokes. It happened in the first round and he did it again in the second, the second time he was able to lock in the choke.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Xant on March 07, 2016, 08:03:41 pm
Why are you so hostile? Does a difference of opinion make you inexplicably mad?
I have trained in karate, judo, wrestling and jiu jitsu. Nate is wicked off his back and I don't think he considers it a position of weakness. For most fighters yes I would agree with your perspective, but you're trying to make sense of a Diaz fight which is absurd within itself. These are the same people who slap their opponents, drop their hands, throw out middle fingers, kick at air for no reason to mock their opponent and generally don't give a fuck about game plans. Nick struck a pose in the middle of the octagon against one of the deadliest strikers in MAA.
He sprawled on Conor's takedown and immediately went to his own back in the 2nd round. Why? Because he is comfortable there and is amazing at triangle holds/guillotine chokes. It happened in the first round and he did it again in the second, the second time he was able to lock in the choke.
A difference of opinion is fine, telling me to "go watch some of their fights" is condescending and retarded.
Nate got swept, plain and simple. He tried going for Conor's back too early, and Conor pulled a beautiful sweep. Diaz may not have thought it was a catastrophe that he ended up on his back, but it was not his plan. He got put there. Nate never went on his back in the second round.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Gmnotutoo on March 07, 2016, 08:22:21 pm
A difference of opinion is fine, telling me to "go watch some of their fights" is condescending and retarded.
Nate got swept, plain and simple. He tried going for Conor's back too early, and Conor pulled a beautiful sweep. Diaz may not have thought it was a catastrophe that he ended up on his back, but it was not his plan. He got put there. Nate never went on his back in the second round.
It wasn't my intention to be condescending but to show you my point on how I described the Diaz brothers fighting habits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1aBk14Pfjo
At the 20 second mark of the video he rolls to his back after the takedown, I can't link videos cause I'm being watched on these forums. Then he rolls him back over so Diaz takes top position, gets full mount and starts winning.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: LordBerenger on March 07, 2016, 08:48:28 pm
Fabricio Werdum says hello. He loves being on the bottom.
It wasn't my intention to be condescending but to show you my point on how I described the Diaz brothers fighting habits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1aBk14Pfjo
At the 20 second mark of the video he rolls to his back after the takedown, I can't link videos cause I'm being watched on these forums. Then he rolls him back over so Diaz takes top position, gets full mount and starts winning.
Diaz is trying to fight it for as long as he can, he doesn't voluntarily go on his back.
:( I see him grabbing his neck and pulling him into guard, Conor did do a good job with defending on the ground in that exchange or else it could've been way worse.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Xant on March 07, 2016, 09:15:08 pm
He grabbed Conor's neck when it was too late to do anything about it. Can you seriously not see him trying to stop the sweep with his right hand on the ground, then realizing it's futile and pulling Conor's head to him instead of letting Conor posture freely?
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Gmnotutoo on March 07, 2016, 09:30:17 pm
He grabbed Conor's neck when it was too late to do anything about it. Can you seriously not see him trying to stop the sweep with his right hand on the ground, then realizing it's futile and pulling Conor's head to him instead of letting Conor posture freely?
There were a few options available to him from that position; go for a kneebar, stay sitting to slug it out, work for standing back up, etc. He had his hand around his neck through the majority of the scramble.
We can debate this for a while due to our different insights and ultimately the only person who knows would be Nate. How about we agree that it was a great fight and move on?
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Harpag on March 08, 2016, 11:01:41 am
Conor McGregor? Pffff
I know only two true champions: Mirko Filipovic & Fedor Emelianenko.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: LordBerenger on March 08, 2016, 01:12:45 pm
because of you spent half the night to watch the women's MMA. Really funny. :D How it's possible? Someone in your immediate family is a professional athlete or maybe you have a sports center next to the house?
I've been playing football since 5 years old, because both my father and grandfather had. So, I guess Xant has a relative that does MA or maybe he meant that he was involved in a lot of fights, since he was a little kid and then picked up martial arts, when he was older. Or he's shitposting as usual, you never know. 8-)
Also, most towns in my country, have a gym, where a lot of different sports can be acted out. Don't know about yours, but I wouldn't be suprised, if Xant's school had a martial arts program for students or something like that anyway.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Xant on March 09, 2016, 02:25:46 pm
My father's done martial arts for 50 years, so he gave me a choice when I was six. Wrestling or judo.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Harpag on March 09, 2016, 03:27:48 pm
That explains everything . If we ever meet, don't fucking touch me, even if you are two times smaller :D
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Molly on March 09, 2016, 04:19:19 pm
I'm kinda wondering which would be more useful irl... Judo or wrestling? Tbh... I'd probably go with... hmm... I can't really decide :lol:
Both have their perks tbf.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Molly on March 09, 2016, 04:50:50 pm
Go with Muay Thai or Kickboxing actually. The work out and conditioning effect is insane and it has pub-usability.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: LordBerenger on March 09, 2016, 05:28:41 pm
You're getting trolled
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Gmnotutoo on March 09, 2016, 05:50:07 pm
Both of those are options, but I'm not a fan of kicking (looks gay IMO) and I'd never use it in a real fight (not that I expect to get in many fights).
I subscribe to the notion that if I need applied pub-violence, I will employ the ancient tradition of pub-fighting. This means either going for the grab and trying to ram their face into things, or throwing lazy sluggish punches at their face till one of us has had enough.
I imagine wrestling would be best for that, though there's something lame about the idea of actually practicing martial arts then getting involved in a pub brawl with average joe drunkard. So tbf maybe kickboxing or Muay Thai would be best if I'm only doing it for fitness, that way I wont be tempted to ever use it IRL.
I was looking at the boxing part anyway. It's more freely compared to oldschool boxing, involving grabs and throws... Just use the kicking practice for conditioning.
There is Chinese Boxing too... but that's probably already too Asian, I assume? Philosophy:"Only a fight finished in 15 seconds is a successful fight" :P
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: LordBerenger on March 09, 2016, 07:57:10 pm
I'm kinda wondering which would be more useful irl... Judo or wrestling? Tbh... I'd probably go with... hmm... I can't really decide :lol:
Both have their perks tbf.
As an adult, Judo, little question about it. Wrestling is too specialized with sporty rules, plus Judo throws and takedowns are very useful when you're against someone not wearing spandex (i.e. everyone you'll come across in real life). Dedicated Judoka have insanely strong grips, too.
As a kid, it depends. Wrestling is usually better for athleticism, which is more important to kids than techniques.
Wrestling is a sport, Judo's a martial art. If you want to use it for fighting, Judo gives you more leeway in how you do things. If you're a good wrestler, you'll get things done too, though, and either way you can't go wrong.
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Macropus on March 10, 2016, 09:53:06 am
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Butan on March 10, 2016, 02:29:20 pm
I get the "kicks are gay" from a balance/mastery perspective, but when you got solid ground under your feet kicks are way better than punchs, especially if you dont do a lot of them. Punch someone 10 times then brutal unexpected low kick. Like in cRPG, gotta cycle all the attack directions as much as possible to keep your opponent busy!
Title: Re: [UFC] Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz
Post by: Xant on March 10, 2016, 10:46:45 pm