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Title: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Maksimus on January 23, 2014, 09:19:21 am
I play on eu7. I have huscarl shield and 13 shieldskill. And what I noticed: I  often got shot a 45 degree archer or xbower. Sometimes I was killed through the shield by the bolt of the engineers. And sometimes I was killed from bandits crhushthrough with the chippest maul, are bandits so strong? Or shields were nerfed totally? Also I was killed from 60-70 degree slasher from the right and left swing.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Kafein on January 23, 2014, 09:36:10 am
Get a shield lol use tactics and adapt teamwork
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Dezilagel on January 23, 2014, 09:59:25 am
Get a shield lol use tactics and adapt teamwork

EDIT:
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Elmuri on January 23, 2014, 11:32:25 am
shielder very very bad !!

injustice ! !
 I love Shielder but

 a very difficult game, shielder  and hit hard
 
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Moncho on January 23, 2014, 11:36:35 am
Hi,

its signed,

i can only approved.

Moncho

(at least yours does not ever break, mine doesn't even have that perk)
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Macropus on January 23, 2014, 12:38:23 pm
So what, you want your shield to be a 360d "Bubble of invulnerability"?
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Leshma on January 23, 2014, 01:08:27 pm
Dude, I hope you're Chinese because if you're not, ban would be in order. Reason why Chinese players play those builds on EU server is because they can't play proper melee cause of 350 ping. Now if you're EU, you have no excuse. Back in the days when I started, players were eager to learn game mechanics. These days everyone wants an easy way to the top.

Players like you, who don't want to learn manual blocking (DTV bots will help you with that) are the reason why we can't get pass Rohan wave with full team. Then people QQ how DTV sucks, but in reality players suck.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Fips on January 23, 2014, 01:21:56 pm
Enjoy it, while it lasts. Expect those indestructible shields to be gone from dtv sometime soon.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Corsair831 on January 23, 2014, 01:23:38 pm
I play on eu7. I have huscarl shield and 13 shieldskill. And what I noticed: I  often got shot a 45 degree archer or xbower. Sometimes I was killed through the shield by the bolt of the engineers. And sometimes I was killed from bandits crhushthrough with the chippest maul, are bandits so strong? Or shields were nerfed totally? Also I was killed from 60-70 degree slasher from the right and left swing.

ranged forcefield is heavily nerfed in crpg (thanks to the oh glorious devs in their infinite wisdom)

with the huscarl's round shield and 13 shield skill you have the maximum possible forcefield, however, so you should not be having a problem with it

(btw, if you have 13 shield skill you can take a practice shield and it will be invincible)
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Prpavi on January 23, 2014, 01:27:29 pm
Yes! I think shield buff is in order
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Bronto on January 23, 2014, 02:15:37 pm
I play on eu7. I have huscarl shield and 13 shieldskill.

Seriously guy, learn to footwork. I have 5 shield skill and a huscarl on my alt and am fine. Also, situational awareness helps. Shields are in a great spot right now, no invisible orb of protection and the fact that projectiles can hit you if you are not meeting them square on is how it should be. Nothing pisses you off worse as ranged, before the shield change, when some asshole with a shield wouldn't even be facing you and yet magically your arrow magnetized to the side of the shield. As far as getting  shot through the shield, either you left off the block button for a split second or the engineer was right on top of you. I would recommend fixing your build first and going with some PS and being able to, I don't know, fight instead of block all the time. Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Tydeus on January 23, 2014, 02:22:49 pm
As far as getting shot through the shield, either you left off the block buttons stopped leeching for a split second or the engineer was right on top of you. I would recommend fixing your build first and going with some PS and being able to, I don't know, fight instead of block leech all the time.
Fixed.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Maksimus on January 23, 2014, 02:30:20 pm
Lol this not my main character my main is 30/9 BeaRed, and I'm always in top) I just wrote what is happening to the shield that I have. Who want me to learn manual block, I play this game for three years and I know how. I dont leech, always helping team luring bots. That's all.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: sF_Guardian on January 23, 2014, 02:30:28 pm
Dude, I hope you're Chinese because if you're not, ban would be in order. Reason why Chinese players play those builds on EU server is because they can't play proper melee cause of 350 ping. Now if you're EU, you have no excuse. Back in the days when I started, players were eager to learn game mechanics. These days everyone wants an easy way to the top.

Players like you, who don't want to learn manual blocking (DTV bots will help you with that) are the reason why we can't get pass Rohan wave with full team. Then people QQ how DTV sucks, but in reality players suck.

Did you really write this pile of shit Leshma?
You know why there's a free point assignment system? Because you can play whatever you want. If someone wants to play 13 shield, why not? Ofc if he delays battle rounds massively, he will get banned but as long as he sticks to the rules he can do what he feels like.Are you really that type of shitheads who flames ppl for not putting on their heaviest armor and their best weapon in DTV? I often get insulted when playing with my usual peasant gear but I always think only new players do insult ppl for being unique. Btw, it's not really easy to top with 13 shield build because you don't do much dmg and thus will get the shittiest score ever...
I smell some butthurt irrationalism over there...
(I'm tmpted to play more DTV now, just to prevent you from getting past the Rohirric riders.)

Lol this not my main character my main is 30/9 BeaRed, and I'm always in top) I just wrote what is happening to the shield that I have. Who want me to learn manual block, I play this game for three years and I know how. I dont leech, always helping team luring bots. That's all.

Crushthrough resistance is determinated by shield weight and your STR as far as I know. At least I feel like I have less crushthrough resistance with 13 shield and a Huscarl's than with an ordinary 18/18 build and Huscarl's.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Nightmare798 on January 23, 2014, 02:42:16 pm
Dude, I hope you're Chinese because if you're not, ban would be in order. Reason why Chinese players play those builds on EU server is because they can't play proper melee cause of 350 ping. Now if you're EU, you have no excuse. Back in the days when I started, players were eager to learn game mechanics. These days everyone wants an easy way to the top.

Players like you, who don't want to learn manual blocking (DTV bots will help you with that) are the reason why we can't get pass Rohan wave with full team. Then people QQ how DTV sucks, but in reality players suck.

Didnt it ever occured to you that some shielders play their class because they like the style?
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: karasu on January 23, 2014, 02:57:32 pm
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Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: sF_Guardian on January 23, 2014, 03:05:13 pm
This thread is getting derailed, like every thread in this forum gets at some point the second post.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Prpavi on January 23, 2014, 03:10:58 pm
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Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Kafein on January 23, 2014, 03:11:29 pm
I don't understand the hate though. Those 13 shield skill guys are very useful in DTV and don't hurt anybody. If the devs believe that makes DTV too easy, I'm sure they'll do something.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: musketer on January 23, 2014, 03:16:30 pm
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Put that shit in spoiler ffs  :!:
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Prinz_Karl on January 23, 2014, 03:51:49 pm
If undestroyable shields are removed please also nerf the bots and give them normal stats, AND remover chambering from bots they are already blocking in 4 directions.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Leshma on January 23, 2014, 03:53:39 pm
I don't understand the hate though. Those 13 shield skill guys are very useful in DTV and don't hurt anybody. If the devs believe that makes DTV too easy, I'm sure they'll do something.

They are useful because they exploit poor AI and aggro bots. But this is not MMORPG and such play style isn't what DTV should be about. As Fips said, it will be fixed in the future.

I have no problem with Chinese players doing it, because they play that cause they really have no other choice (ever tried melee with 350 ping?) Also Chinese players who do that know how to do it, where to stand. EU newcommers don't and despite having 13 shield skill they get killed during first wave. Chinese players only get killed because noob archers th/tk them or some "funny" drunk dude won't leave them alone, constantly nudging/kicking them. That is way ROSE_naluoto reports players so much. Too many dumb people who find harassing amusing.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Leshma on January 23, 2014, 03:57:10 pm
If undestroyable shields are removed please also nerf the bots and give them normal stats, AND remover chambering from bots they are already blocking in 4 directions.

No. Great XP and gold should be awarded to capable players. If 25 out of 30 players are completely useless, they should never go past nomad wave. Until they learn to play. DTV is quite simple, takes only two or three type of builds. One are shielders who form shield walls, rest are damage dealers. You don't even need expensive gear for it. But it's full of leechers who won't even take 2000 gold Two Handed War Axe. I can pull it off with a pitchfork, that's because I can use any weapon bots drop. Most players can't do that.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Nightmare798 on January 23, 2014, 03:59:34 pm
No. Great XP and gold should be awarded to capable players. If 25 out of 30 players are completely useless, they should never go past nomad wave. Until they learn to play. DTV is quite simple, takes only two or three type of builds. One are shielders who form shield walls, rest are damage dealers. You don't even need expensive gear for it. But it's full of leechers who won't even take 2000 gold Two Handed War Axe. I can pull it off with a pitchfork, that's because I can use any weapon bots drop. Most players can't do that.

Wait are you telling people how to play DTV now?
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Leshma on January 23, 2014, 04:04:01 pm
No use telling you anything, you're just annoying forum wannabe troll who's abysmal at the game. You also lack basic intellectual abilities.

DTV is incredibly easy to play when everyone is doing his job. With just 10 players it's easy to get to tincans, but everyone must kill at least few bots per wave which really isn't that hard because they are bots. All it takes are basic blocking skills (like mine, because I'm not very good at blocking) and knowledge of bots behavior.

About shields. I used to have 1 Shield skill and was using Old Heater Shield for a long time (before all these shield buff occured). Rarely if ever got hit by archers. That's because you can point a shield in a direction where projectile is coming from, therefore blocking it. But most don't do that, get hit from above and qq, shields broken.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Nightmare798 on January 23, 2014, 04:13:29 pm
No use telling you anything, you're just annoying forum wannabe troll who's abysmal at the game. You also lacks basic intellectual abilities.

such hate
wow
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DTV is incredibly easy to play when everyone is doing his job. With just 10 players it's easy to get to tincans, but everyone must kill at least few bots per wave which really isn't that hard because they are bots. All it takes are basic blocking skills (like mine, because I'm not very good at blocking) and knowledge of bots behavior.
I see no problem with anyone using 13 shield skill. Why is it so bad?

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About shields. I used to have 1 Shield skill and was using Old Heater Shield for a long time (before all these shield buff occured). Rarely if ever got hit by archers. That's because you can point a shield in a direction where projectile is coming therefore blocking it. But most don't do that, get hit from above and qq, shields broken.

I call bs when one sidestep is enough for some random 2H/polearm junkie to bend their fucking weapon over my shield and hit me. The actual melee shield coverage is pretty shitty tbh.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Mala on January 23, 2014, 04:20:25 pm
thx to the archer lobby shields do not work against missiles anymore.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Leshma on January 23, 2014, 04:25:25 pm
such hate
wow

Hate? Guess calling things with a proper name is called hate these days. Prove me wrong.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: sF_Guardian on January 23, 2014, 04:27:03 pm
That quiet mode didn't last long Leshma, your retardation grows again :D
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Leshma on January 23, 2014, 04:43:02 pm
Quiet mode as, CTRL+SHIFT+M while playing the mod. Can't bother to listen to random chit-chat of bunch a 14 years old.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: sF_Guardian on January 23, 2014, 04:50:24 pm
Quiet mode as, CTRL+SHIFT+M while playing the mod. Can't bother to listen to random chit-chat of bunch a 14 years old.

Ah, thanks for clarification. I thought you were on some esoteric self-control trip :D
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Oberyn on January 23, 2014, 04:52:20 pm
Remove DTV, most useless and boring mode. It's hilarious seeing people talk about it like it requires any sort of skill or thought. After 10 minutes or so you can feel your brain turning to useless mush, it's pointlessly retarded.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Apsod on January 23, 2014, 05:34:42 pm
That quiet mode didn't last long Leshma, your retardation grows again :D
Leshma mode is ON
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Leshma on January 23, 2014, 05:46:46 pm
Leshma mode is ON

You said you're still grateful, despite everything. Where did that go? I bark a lot, but at the end of the day you're the one having all the gear and gold it took me years to collect. I wouldn't complain, if I were you. If it's so hard for you to understand why I'm bitter, maybe you should go to nearest charity and donate all your real life belongings to them and live in poverty for few weeks. Believe me, after two days, you'll want it back.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Oberyn on January 23, 2014, 05:51:54 pm
No use telling you anything, you're just annoying forum wannabe troll who's abysmal at the game. You also lack basic intellectual abilities.

Dat irony.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Apsod on January 23, 2014, 06:15:00 pm
You said you're still grateful, despite everything. Where did that go? I bark a lot, but at the end of the day you're the one having all the gear and gold it took me years to collect. I wouldn't complain, if I were you. If it's so hard for you to understand why I'm bitter, maybe you should go to nearest charity and donate all your real life belongings to them and live in poverty for few weeks. Believe me, after two days, you'll want it back.
I'm still grateful of course, but when I realised that you were actually angry at me for something even though I never did anything to you and even helped you out as much as possible when you returned, then I simply can't help but to bark back.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Leshma on January 23, 2014, 06:19:35 pm
I'm still grateful of course, but when I realised that you were actually angry at me for something even though I never did anything to you and even helped you out as much as possible when you returned, then I simply can't help but to bark back.

Yes you did help, can't deny it. You could say, get lost loser. But as much as possible.. that isn't true. As much as possible means giving stuff back. Now, I didn't ask that but if you wanted to be really nice you could insist.

Either way, that gear is now yours. No point in discussing it anymore. But I have the right to be bitter because I lost it. I'll get my revenge one day, maybe. Case closed.

Just don't use as much as possible term, because you don't seem to understand it very well.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Oberyn on January 23, 2014, 06:19:58 pm
That's because when he said "I don't care what you do with it, it's your choice" he was on his "I am an amazingly generous martyr" upswing of his bipolar disorder. He just happens to be on his "I don't give a fuck bout no one, you all suck" downswing at the moment. You can't take anything that insane person says seriously. He'll probably come around to not being angry at you again at some point, and it will be just as meaningless.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Leshma on January 23, 2014, 06:25:23 pm
No, I will not Oberyn. That is what list is for. Doing the same irl. Apart from my family, everyone I ever encounter from now on will be treated accordingly to the way they treat me. No exceptions. Never ever will be nice to anyone for no bloody reason. Everything has its price. My time has value, so does yours. Wasting is something fools do and while I admit foolish behavior in the past, I'm now trying to stop with that.

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I don't give a fuck bout no one, you all suck

Correct. Being lone wolf has its advantages too (apart from being gangbang by bunch of drunk teens all the time in an online game). That advantage is that you don't have to be artificially nice to anyone. Of course, rules exist and must be respected in order to keep playing. But other from those rules, being overly nice is just a waste of words and actions.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Oberyn on January 23, 2014, 06:40:00 pm
Of course this directly contradicts a bunch of the pontificating bullshit you've vomited on these forums on a regular basis, but like I said, you're probably on your bipolar downswing at the moment. I give it a day or two before you start berating someone like you're the fucking judge of all morality. Nice to see some admission that all your "I'm such a nice person" crap was artificial pretend play. Do you have any sort of standards at all, or do you just addapt to whatever plays to your insane, chaotically varying emotions at a given moment? You and rationality should get introduced sometime.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Apsod on January 23, 2014, 06:44:44 pm
Yes you did help, can't deny it. You could say, get lost loser. But as much as possible.. that isn't true. As much as possible means giving stuff back. Now, I didn't ask that but if you wanted to be really nice you could insist.
Hang on now. I gave you all the looms you asked for. I even asked if you wanted more but you refused to take more. You have no reason at all to be bitter because I didn't give you more back when you refused to take more. :|

Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Gnjus on January 23, 2014, 06:47:47 pm
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Leshma on January 23, 2014, 07:04:28 pm
Hang on now. I gave you all the looms you asked for. I even asked if you wanted more but you refused to take more. You have no reason at all to be bitter because I didn't give you more back when you refused to take more. :|

Please give me back everything I gave you, and we will be buddies again. Ok?
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Oberyn on January 23, 2014, 07:05:57 pm
Hang on now. I gave you all the looms you asked for. I even asked if you wanted more but you refused to take more. You have no reason at all to be bitter because I didn't give you more back when you refused to take more. :|

Leshma will twist anything around so that he appears to be the victim in his own mind. He's probably on this "I only care about myself now!" trip because he's trying to paint himself as a person that was foolishly nice to others only to be taken advantage of, even as he admits he was only pretending to be nice. Yet again a martyr, of course. The only thing he is consistent in is hypocrisy and self-contradiction. Consistent in his inconsistency.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Leshma on January 23, 2014, 07:09:12 pm
Taking advantage of clinically insane people is not nice, you know.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: _schizo321437 on January 23, 2014, 07:23:10 pm
Get a shield lol use tactics and adapt teamwork
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Apsod on January 23, 2014, 07:33:22 pm
Please give me back everything I gave you, and we will be buddies again. Ok?
I see no reason to help you out even more after you have been trying to make me look bad publicly for something I didn't do.

I don't mind you being bitter at me, but please keep it to yourself.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Leshma on January 23, 2014, 07:39:41 pm
Didn't expect any other answer. You're so giving and helpful, Apsod. Scumbag..
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Moncho on January 23, 2014, 08:16:28 pm
Can we get back to shield discussion and get your personal issue (which has been said over 9000 times already) to PMs?
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Fips on January 23, 2014, 08:37:21 pm
Shield sucks, 1hCav OP, NURF NURF NURF, play a real class, QQ, QQ, QQ, RAGE, QQ.



QQ.

also QQ
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Macropus on January 23, 2014, 08:51:56 pm
Hang on now. I gave you all the looms you asked for. I even asked if you wanted more but you refused to take more. You have no reason at all to be bitter because I didn't give you more back when you refused to take more. :|
U don't understand! You should have INSISTED!  :mrgreen: Scum!
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Grumbs on January 23, 2014, 08:53:13 pm
No, I will not Oberyn. That is what list is for. Doing the same irl. Apart from my family, everyone I ever encounter from now on will be treated accordingly to the way they treat me. No exceptions. Never ever will be nice to anyone for no bloody reason. Everything has its price. My time has value, so does yours. Wasting is something fools do and while I admit foolish behavior in the past, I'm now trying to stop with that.

Correct. Being lone wolf has its advantages too (apart from being gangbang by bunch of drunk teens all the time in an online game). That advantage is that you don't have to be artificially nice to anyone. Of course, rules exist and must be respected in order to keep playing. But other from those rules, being overly nice is just a waste of words and actions.

If everyone was only nice to each other after the other proved he was worthy we would have a pretty shitty world to live in. Don't extend much of anything you learn online into your real life, that would suck for you and anyone else (except this if you want :D)

Even if people dick you over that shouldn't change who you are, just don't go overboard with giving people things and expecting anything in return. You are causing issues that shouldn't be there by expecting anything at all from Apsod. The conditions of you giving him stuff wasn't to be on his case all the time afterwards. He didn't have to give squat back but it seems he did. If you made a condition of him giving the stuff back before you gave it, then you could complain. Otherwise its a case of giving someone a gift and then asking for it back. Its just not a decent thing to do.

Anyway, much drama. Wow
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: HappyPhantom on January 23, 2014, 09:00:33 pm
Possibly the most ridiculous thread I have read.

Enjoy it, while it lasts. Expect those indestructible shields to be gone from dtv sometime soon.

Ofcourse. DTV maps built specifically for shieldwall tactics. Players build optimised shielders. Most optimised shielders no longer allowed. GG.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Clockworkkiller on January 23, 2014, 09:11:38 pm
Fuck you prp, fuck you
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Thedric on January 23, 2014, 09:14:08 pm
Why dont you 2h my old friends try to play with a shield for once before you start spewing your ignorant bullshit? And HESKEYTIME, I dont think I've ever seen you playing as a shielder, the only times you're on EU2 is when you ride that donkey like some sort of drunk retard. So, I'm afraid your information about shielders might be a bit outdated. At best.

Dedicated 1h shielders out there know how much of a pain in the ass this class has become. Without at least 5 ath you just cannot keep up with most 2h, without at least 5 IF you cannot survive more than 2 hit from most of the weapons out there, without at least 7 PS you need over half a dozen hits to kill anything other than a peasant and without 5 points in "shield" you cannot use huscarls (which is the least retarded one out there).

Basically, unless you have a huscarls you're only protected against things coming right at you. Unfortunately, with it you'll be as maneuverable as an average tractor and any 2h noob with 3ath can backpedal faster than you can run forward. Couple that with the fact that all 2h can hit with the hilt (no minimum effective range, fucking amazes me every time I think about it...) means that shielders are only ever relevant in tight spaces where there is no room for maneuver.

There is no end to this, I could go on and on about how my beloved class has been utterly and totally fucked by the devs, I can go on about how useless shield bash is, pushing people too far away out of range, while under specific circumstances pushes allow players to go right through you, basically taking away shielders ability to block chokepoints. Or I can talk about how I cant catch ranged and how they can kill me with 2 arrows in the chest, while it takes me at least 3 hits to kill anyone in light armour. This class has gone from good, to acceptable, to FUBAR in a remarkable amount of time.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Fips on January 23, 2014, 09:16:15 pm
Ofcourse. DTV maps built specifically for shieldwall tactics. Players build optimised shielders. Most optimised shielders no longer allowed. GG.

If you didn't have your "i hate new dtv"goggles on you would see that indestructible shields have always been a problem in dtv. Maybe now more than ever because of the maps, yes, but they always been around.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: bavvoz on January 23, 2014, 09:33:04 pm
Shields r fine. Imo if as a shielder is a waste, the shield is ur if. And i really dont see why any1 would choose the big heavy huscarls (sry tueten) over a lighter shield like elite cav.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Gurnisson on January 23, 2014, 09:38:08 pm
snip

1h + shield is very strong. I like playing it as it's got much higher potential while getting ganked compared to all the other infantry classes.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Oberyn on January 23, 2014, 09:45:48 pm
Yeah one of the most important advantages as a shielder is being able to deal with multiple melee opponents, imo.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Leshma on January 23, 2014, 10:15:19 pm
U don't understand! You should have INSISTED!  :mrgreen: Scum!

Actually, to be fully honest reason why I asked for portion of what I gave him is because I know how this community works. If I asked a little bit more, would probably be blown off. Happy that I got at least something from any member of this community. Of course, there are people like Xant who gave items back without much issues but they are rare. If I asked Apsod to give me back everything, he would just say: beat it punk!

He's still scumbag for using stuff someone else collected and invested so much time in it. What makes it worse is the sheer amount of stuff he got.

Last post regarding this subject, I swear.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Nightmare798 on January 23, 2014, 10:21:42 pm
Hate? Guess calling things with a proper name is called hate these days. Prove me wrong.

I dont have to prove anything to anyone. And especially not you.

I think you are an ax-crazy tranny with shit opinions.

Prove me wrong.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: HappyPhantom on January 23, 2014, 10:22:32 pm
If you didn't have your "i hate new dtv"goggles on you would see that indestructible shields have always been a problem in dtv. Maybe now more than ever because of the maps, yes, but they always been around.

Why are they a problem? (I still don't know after reading this thread).
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Nightmare798 on January 23, 2014, 10:30:22 pm

I dont get what you people are complaining about.

Are they ruining fun for you by TAKING HITS SO YOU DONT HAVE TO? I can kinda understand if you rage on unbreakable shield in battle or siege, but seriously, raging at someone who tanks all the hits while others beats attackers from behind? What is wrong with that.

And seriously people abuse worse shit than 13 shield in this mode, like climbing houses or using heightened indoors, so ai cant get them because npcs cannot jump.

Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Prpavi on January 23, 2014, 10:49:12 pm
Fuck you prp, fuck you

hahaha, thank you for the new sig darling  :wink: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Jarold on January 23, 2014, 10:49:21 pm
Couldn't we just cap shield skill at 12 since this is such a big deal apparently....
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: kinngrimm on January 23, 2014, 11:11:15 pm
@Thedric
you missed to mention kick range/angle  :rolleyes:

@Heskey
to round up your BUFF Information, perhaps i would include the higher chances for shield stun and crushthrough due to weight reduction, you know for an objective approach, which then also would answer partly perhaps Maksimus questions in the OP.

@Leshma
Demanding back gifts are we now? Trying to frame the lad you gave your shit to as scum? The shit you either leeched in low armor without investing into the teams effort by being more durable and increasing the chances of your team to win or by marketplace trans*sniezescam*actions. So besides delusional there comes the selfish trait.

Enjoy it, while it lasts. Expect those indestructible shields to be gone from dtv sometime soon.
most curious statement!
Only affecting dtv? How differently would shieldskill work instead? How about kick range/angle redcuction? What about framskiping pole&2h spam? What about ranged investations?
Speak to us oracle!
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Apsod on January 23, 2014, 11:17:01 pm
Actually, to be fully honest reason why I asked for portion of what I gave him is because I know how this community works. If I asked a little bit more, would probably be blown off. Happy that I got at least something from any member of this community. Of course, there are people like Xant who gave items back without much issues but they are rare. If I asked Apsod to give me back everything, he would just say: beat it punk!

He's still scumbag for using stuff someone else collected and invested so much time in it. What makes it worse is the sheer amount of stuff he got.

Last post regarding this subject, I swear.
So now I'm a scumbag for using the stuff you gifted to me? Seriously what the fuck Leshma, did you expect me to keep your stuff locked away and never touch it?

Also don't assume things about me without knowing me. I would have without doubt given you back everything I had at the time except the 8 looms I had before you gave me your stuff.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Fips on January 23, 2014, 11:26:02 pm
Only affecting dtv? How differently would shieldskill work instead? How about kick range/angle redcuction? What about framskiping pole&2h spam? What about ranged investations?
Speak to us oracle!

Ehm, of course only dtv. Bots don't know how to get past that shield so at least it should break at some point.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Grumbs on January 23, 2014, 11:27:06 pm
Not posting this to have a go at you Leshma, but remember what you posted when you left:

For those asking for looms and gold, I'll have to disappoint you guys. Everything went to Apsod and that everything is:

15.626.874 gold
14 loompoints (+2 I borrowed to Bjord which he'll hopefully give back to new owner)
9 Masterwork/Lordly items

If anyone is wondering why Apsod, I'll just say that he helped me with something and asked me can he have my looms (he was joking). I took it seriously and said him I'll give him everything if I quit the mod. Since that time has come, he gets everything. Last time I gave items to Meow to keep them for me and he returned them. Before that Xant asked the same question and got looms, but I said him that if I come back he should return them to me. Which he did. But this time there are no conditions.


I'm aware that he's buddy of Zlisch_the_Butcher, which means that Zlisch is most likely going to enjoy some of that wealth but I don't really mind. I don't play the mod anymore and now everything is Apsod property, not mine anymore. Hopefully, the likes of Zlisch will realize that they were wrong about me but that's not really that important to me tbh.

For those asking about Bucko, my alt. I've retired it, just like I did with main. It was level 32, 7 mil short of level 33. Got 2 loompoints that way (+8 loompoints for main). I didn't deleted it, just like I didn't deleted main. But that doesn't mean I'll continue playing cRPG.

This is my last post in cRPG part of this forum. From now on I'll just check news and post in super secret section of these forums. cRPG sub-forums are hidden. Also any PM regarding cRPG will not be answered. If you want to chat about new game, I'll gladly respond.

That doesn't mean I'll play upcoming miracle of game for certain. That depends on this community. Hopefully in next few years you all will grow up a bit, become more mature. Also I hope that admin issue will be done differently in there. Even if stays the same, my hope that admins in upcoming game will be like best admins when I started cRPG: Merc_Phaz, Merc_Mustikki, Ninja_Thomek, Guard_Nuffen and later Meow. That means mature guys who know rules very well and stick to them.

That is all I wanted to say. Wish you fun in cRPG. Sadly, I came to a point where I had two choices: one was to embrace silly mob mentality that has become leading force in cRPG or to leave the mod. I choose the latter.

I bolded couple bits. I'm pretty sure Apsod bought you M:BG access for just a loompoint before all this too

Anyway, don't give something and say "no strings, no conditions" etc and then ask for it back unless you can take no for an answer (not that he didn't give anything)

Should really have said you were lending them until you came back, no problems then

Anyway, not really my business just thought it was kind of wrong to accuse the guy
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Leshma on January 23, 2014, 11:32:07 pm
Yes, I would like that M:BG access removed if possible.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Grumbs on January 23, 2014, 11:34:46 pm
Yes, I would like that M:BG access removed if possible.

Why?
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Leshma on January 23, 2014, 11:46:03 pm
Because it wasn't bought with my money. Second, the more I see and hear of that game the less I want to play it. Can always buy it myself when they start gathering more money and only thing that really interests me, won't be released for a long time, if ever. For everything else, Bannerlord and some sort of cRPG mod will be better.

Would bother cmp, chadz or nessaj to remove this alpha package from my account but not sure will they respond. But they should give it back to Apsod, because I don't want anything to have with that guy anymore.

If having 20 MWs for almost 9 months wasn't enough fun for him and if his idea of fun is to spend gold on full plate charger, full plate armor and four throwing lances harassing poor players on EU4 then let him. But in my eyes, he's an asshole and going to stay that way. Despite having enough gold to create lamest possible build which could grief EU1 (could actually do that with couple of friends) I never did anything remotely close to it. Always was playing with medium gear and always will be.

Best way to see what kind of person someone is to make him significant. He had his chance and blew it.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Smoothrich on January 24, 2014, 12:12:52 am
Leshma you appear to be *this* close to having a psychotic breakdown (assuming you haven't already) and going on a Kesh-styled school shooting spree.

Please continue on and be sure to livepost/tweet us your thoughts in between reloads at your local elementary school in the near future.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Leshma on January 24, 2014, 12:19:44 am
Nah, going to sleep now. Besides this subject is a bit boring, only thing that makes it interesting is amount of gold and looms. Other than that it's no big deal really. I actually don't want those looms back, but would gladly see them removed from his account so he can't enjoy them anymore. Selfish from me, I know.

Also kinngrimm, I don't see how is me shittalking Apsod going to hurt his positions in this community. Could only strengthen them. Anyway, I don't want to hear from you and your buddies, including Apsod. Everyone who follows you is either delusional, misinformed or just wicked like you are.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Apsod on January 24, 2014, 12:43:39 am
Leshma the shit you blame me for is just beyond ludicrous. Seems more like you're just trolling tbh.

At first you were bitter because I didn't accept your clan invitation when I was already in a clan.

Then it was because I had not spent your wealth "correctly" even though you told me to spend it however I wanted.

Then suddenly you were upset because I only asked if you wanted more looms when you returned when I should have insisted.

And now you're angry because I am actually using the stuff you gave me instead of letting them stay untouched in my inventory and because I tried playing heavy cav for two weeks after you encouraged me to do so.

Can you please explain me how this makes me an asshole and a scumbag? I know you told me that logic does not work on you, but come on..
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Leshma on January 24, 2014, 12:57:16 am
Of course you don't understand, you're Norwegian. Wealth sprouted from the ground for you guys, you neither took effort to earn it or steal it from someone else. Why don't your norwegian arse visit a country like Nigeria, and try that logic on local black citizens. They will probably hang a tire around your neck at the end of the day, previously ripping you of all your belongings.

To obtain all that gold, I had to play more than 15 gens in rags with a darn pitchfork and who knows how much on main, getting one shot by every random prick lucky enough to hit me. And you decided that a funny way to spend it is to ride around on plated charger, in full plate throwing four utterly expensive throwing lances for god know how long, that way wasting all the effort I put to gather it and griefing everyone on the server because you were incredibly hard to kill, mounted one hit machine. All of that just because some dumb player from Serbia decided to give his items to you.

Die in a fire.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: owens on January 24, 2014, 01:11:30 am
You can actually have as much as 36 body armour with 13 shield skill

A loomed dagger does sufficient damage with only 1PS to take bots down eventually. Shield is not very useful against ranged if you want to deal damage. However its a defensive perk and shouldn't be thought of as a hard counter to projectiles ever.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Apsod on January 24, 2014, 01:15:58 am
I never went HT. I played 1H cav and maybe you shouldn't have encouraged me to do so if you were gonna have such a big fucking problem with it. Besides whats the point in getting 15M gold if you're not gonna use it.

Fuck it, I give up. You're not making any sense.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: IG_Saint on January 24, 2014, 01:24:51 am
You really are pathetic leshma...This is beyond ridiculous. You're just an asshole trying to bullshit yourself into believing you're not. How about you go die in a fire yourself? This community would be a lot beter off if you just finally fucked off for good.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Oberyn on January 24, 2014, 01:32:22 am
Like always, Leshma is the only decent person in a sea of evil, the shining light of martyrdom and good in an evil world. Holy shit what a delusional wanker.
As if you "earned" even a fraction of those looms, you market-humping rat. You didn't seem to give a shit about ripping the fuck out of people on the market-place and paying at most a portion of what those "hard-earned" looms were actually worth. And if playing the game was such a chore for you, maybe get the fuck away from it? I think that would be good for everyone involved. The pointless racism is just meh, I can't even be surprised by your idiocy anymore. The self-comparison to poor black people in Nigeria is just hilarious though. 10/10, would laugh at uproariously again. Leshma, have you ever been to Nigeria? Fuck, have you ever even traveled outside of whater po-dunk backwards ass hillbilly serbian village you come from?
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Moncho on January 24, 2014, 01:43:34 am
Yet another thread delivering. And where is Christo?
Lucky us that leshma said this:
Last post regarding this subject, I swear.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Chosen1 on January 24, 2014, 02:41:23 am
maybe we should buff 2h
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Jarold on January 24, 2014, 04:12:09 am
I never went HT. I played 1H cav and maybe you shouldn't have encouraged me to do so if you were gonna have such a big fucking problem with it. Besides whats the point in getting 15M gold if you're not gonna use it.

Fuck it, I give up. You're not making any sense.

If I got 15 million gold I would ride on a plated charger in full plate all day! I don't blame you!
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: kinngrimm on January 24, 2014, 04:58:45 am
Of course you don't understand, you're Norwegian.
 :shock: mmk forum admin/moderator, please ban for discrimination
Wealth sprouted from the ground for you guys, you neither took effort to earn it or steal it from someone else.
I dont even ...
Why don't your norwegian arse visit a country like Nigeria, and try that logic on local black citizens. They will probably hang a tire around your neck at the end of the day, previously ripping you of all your belongings.
again wtf ...

To obtain all that gold, I had to play more than 15 gens in rags with a darn pitchfork and who knows how much on main, getting one shot by every random prick lucky enough to hit me.
Not like that it would be Apsods fault that you are cheap bastard not helping your teammates by wearing decent gear.
 And you decided that a funny way to spend it is to ride around on plated charger, in full plate throwing four utterly expensive throwing lances for god know how long, that way wasting all the effort I put to gather it and griefing everyone on the server because you were incredibly hard to kill, mounted one hit machine. All of that just because some dumb player from Serbia decided to give his items to you.
What the fuck do you care, you gave your stuff to Apsod, no strings attached, by that it became his stuff and you have no grounds to expect anything. But when you asked him, he still gave you some stuff. That in my book makes Apsod a decent guy. You afterwards now expecting even more, that makes you a greedy cunt

Die in a fire.



@Heskeytime
you develop into quite a shitposter, well i guess even Leshma needs a friend :o
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Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Umbra on January 24, 2014, 09:44:18 am
Snowing outside, im in my warm PJs drinking my morning coffee, another Leshma meltdown thread on the forums, post your tits thread on 4chan, Conan the barbarian soundtrack playing on in the background, going to the theater with a sweet slim girl today. Ah student life is the best.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Adamar on January 24, 2014, 10:50:02 am
Them Norwegians...
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: [ptx] on January 24, 2014, 11:08:07 am
The thread name is deceptive, tells nothing of the sweet, sweet drama within :lol:
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Macropus on January 24, 2014, 11:14:40 am
Apart from my family, everyone I ever encounter from now on will be treated accordingly to the way they treat me. No exceptions. Never ever will be nice to anyone for no bloody reason.
Being a mirror doesn't make you a person, though.
Good luck with that attitude.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Akynos on January 24, 2014, 12:32:17 pm
Dude, I hope you're Chinese because if you're not, ban would be in order. Reason why Chinese players play those builds on EU server is because they can't play proper melee cause of 350 ping. Now if you're EU, you have no excuse. Back in the days when I started, players were eager to learn game mechanics. These days everyone wants an easy way to the top.

Players like you, who don't want to learn manual blocking (DTV bots will help you with that) are the reason why we can't get pass Rohan wave with full team. Then people QQ how DTV sucks, but in reality players suck.

Why did this get so many - ?
I agree with Leshma that people who play on DTV should be looking to be somewhat efficient instead of crutching bots with ridiculous builds ( and then QQing about it on the forums, lol) because they aren't competitive on other game modes. At the rare times I went on eu7 I raged when I was seriously trying to win and we lost because a few useless semi-leechers came on the server, clueless about how to fight and the proportional increase in bots due to their presence was too tough for the rest of us.

I don't want to be cruel towards newbies, but I have to side with Leshma here, if you can't fight at all please be at least courteous, even perhaps generous enough to not just sit on eu7 making the game harder for those who play it.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Clockworkkiller on January 24, 2014, 12:35:57 pm
I'm dropping a massive shit now
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Leshma on January 24, 2014, 02:05:47 pm
This topic gave results, as you can see on my reknown bar :wink:

Edit: I hope you have fun toying with it, whoever you are.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Grumbs on January 24, 2014, 02:54:58 pm
:D Each time you refresh its a different number. No more persistent stats for you it seems
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: karasu on January 24, 2014, 03:16:57 pm
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Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: [ptx] on January 24, 2014, 04:16:35 pm
Uh-oh.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Kafein on January 24, 2014, 07:23:49 pm
Sorry PTX, I much prefer karasu's gif
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: [ptx] on January 24, 2014, 07:29:27 pm
Sorry PTX, I much prefer karasu's gif
You're on a list now.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Son Of Odin on January 25, 2014, 05:52:31 am
You're on a list now.

You mean he's on two lists now? :mrgreen:

Also, Kafein listed. Reason: unknown.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Awea on January 25, 2014, 06:01:27 am
Guys...

Love you.
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Kafein on January 25, 2014, 10:40:54 pm
You mean he's on two lists now? :mrgreen:

WHAT THE HELL IS THAT THREAD

LESHMA WHYYY

I NOW UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING
Title: Re: Shield is very bad shield
Post by: Prpavi on January 26, 2014, 12:47:56 pm
it has all been settled, don't worry guise I haz proof

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Apsod and Leshma are now friends mmkay, Steam never lies!