Difference is that what i wrote to you, had actually something to do with the topic, whereby you just tried to pull some BS onto me. Are you really still hurt
that i told OdE about your army, if so, then its not me who has a problem
.
The fact remains that you have just had a go at Leshma for doing 3 very 'Kinngrimm' things.
Do i need to find the quotes including your very own 'list of demands' you made in regards to certain things, 'gifts' if you will, you'd left the Wolves faction? And the subsequent shit-slinging contest with Odysseus that ensued? That covers your first 2 points with the 3rd being implicit.
Sounds like a threat, how come that i am not shivering. Interested parties look
hereConcerning what went down between me and Wolves,
i still am of the opinion it wasnt anyonce buisness, but well i had never a problem when challenged, to put all dirty laundry out into the open and that was what Odysseus wanted, to put things into the open for everybody to see, so that people like you can strive through bathing in the mud of others, so lets see:
I didnt
demand anything when i came back, otherwise 37 members of Fenris
(7 at that time Wolves, 2 of them activly back then playing now 4 of them, another 13 which left Wolves even before i came back for various reasons now also in Fenris and well 17 new members)
might have been Wolves now, helping in a powerstruggle as my supporters.
Been there, done & won such shit before you have even touched this game, didn't like one inch of it. Such was exactly what i was trying to avoid by creating a new clan and make a clean cut. If there would have been a powerstruggle you could have said, i would have
demanded something, but there wasnt a powerstruggle, not even a try, a thought yes but also the conscious decision against it, as i knew from past experiences that would be very distructive in many ways. My actions since then speak on my behalf.
I also could have kept Curaw(Guika), Slezhk Castle(Legend92) with nearly 20k troops and tons of gear, gold and goods as those locations had been held by former Wolves, who followed me into the new clan. Instead i told them explicitly to hand over those fiefs to the Wolves. I did not attack Wolves, but Odysseus ordered to attack Winterfell, whom i said he can keep what he thinks is fair, which may have been a mistake. Then again instead of talking frist to me, i got a message shortly before the attack and both i noticed a lot later. While the timing may seem ugly, the "not talking to me first part" is the point i disliked about this. But then again, in the 2-3 weeks i was then back in the game and was everyday on their teamspeak, Odysseus was 2 times present when i was with the other Wolves in a channel and there was not really a response from him towards anything i said.
What i
asked for, was for me to be the Lord of Khudan, which the curent lord(Quis) would have supported, but due to several things(f.e. attacks onto HRE) happening was delayed several times. What i asked
about, was
about the current banner, which i still find too soft. What made me leave at the end, was that longterm members had been deleted from the steam group by Larvae, friends lost forever. I got lucky after new years eve though, when i was going through my strat google documents where i found an old membership list i made around strat 3.0.
Odysseus on the other hand, who when he left Werfrieds Peasent Batallion, took with him an army, troops&gear&gold, without asking, as i was later told by Zlisch when he read Odysseus flame post, basicly the very thing Oddysseus aqused me of. Only but that Winterfell was the one who was free to act as what he thought would be fair, as i wasnt back into Strategus with my heart&mind yet and overall rather desinterested in comparison to how i acted before i left 8 months back, back then. While Odysseus still then had a chance to come clean, he put one more ontop by killing the last remaining player in a fun battle who would have been able to restore the flags, after the Nord Commanders repeatidly, as they told me later on asked Odysseus in TS and ingame chat, not to kill that last player(Valtzuman). That didnt only cost 50 players roughly 1 million XP, but was then the point were i said to myself, this is it, i am done with Wolves aslong he is their leader. A while ago it also turned out that one of the clans who had been in a banner alliance with Wolves doesnt want to cooperate in next strat with Wolves because of Odysseus and even left that banner alliance.
As you are so concerned about the irony of these things you hinted towards, should i guess you are all good with Odysseus deads, therefor should i also guess you would have done just the same? These are at least the implications i find breaking the surface in my mind.
under the line: This stuff is tiresome, and havent you been the advocat over and over again to leave things in the past? You know, not being enemies anymore, doing things differently ... But hey if you still feel like going on then bring it on
So how about a truce and we dont mention or even hint towards these events nomore?
