So if you did not make it into one or two of those, put that into your application for the next one. You can sign up for one or both sides.The good thing is that since it is not about
It has been a good while since i have been teamkilled by kapikulu :?
First winner:
In_your_phase(it was probably phase) banned from all our future battles on all Strats :)
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will have a very good chance to be acceptedWell, everybody who had brains & 15str(level 9+) was accepted & we still had about 20 free slots.
Well, everybody who had brains & 15str(level 9+) was accepted & we still had about 20 free slots.very nice battle, it might help if people knew in advance that they would get a password on ts. It was not very clear at the start :)
WTF? And what kurwa now? XP battles? Pfffu :rolleyes:why u ban all russkies from TS? ((((click to show/hide)
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WTF? And what kurwa now? XP battles? Pfffu :rolleyes:heh, exactly :mrgreen:(click to show/hide)
why u ban all russkies from TS? (((I just start my day, will check what happened with TS.
Friday 13th :D :D :D
Why do I get weird feeling that Harpag is drunk :mrgreen:
Look at map :rolleyes:
I assume you're referring to the strategus map. I can't find a reason from there why DRZ and The Coalition shouldn't have xp deathmatch battles nor why you would not be drunk.
Hronology:
1)yesterday's morning: I chat with Rogue about upcomming xp battles(We should've attack Asugan & Tulga yesterday). He tells me that COA wants to wipe all troops after Narra battle. He offers us troops in Tulga & Asugan. Since I'm a greedy bastard, I ask for all COA resources to drawn EU in XP battles. He accepts my offer, & I begin to search DRZ players to take ownership, but not telling them the reason. Just: "go to Narra & wait for the end of the battle".
2)yesterday's evening before the battle: almost all DRZ guys are on their positions. I apply for COA defence of Narra(since technically they are not our enemies anymore, & victory or defeat of Grey's army will only determine which UIF faction will have Narra & 30k troops. Also defending is more fun ;) ) First DRZ butthurt wave beggins. I start getting insults from uif guys.
3)yesterday's evening after the battle: Druzhina guy is the new lord of Narra. Same for Tulbuk(10k troops), Tulga(42k) & Ichamur(13k). Second DRZ butthurt wave beggins. Some players want to quit to not play with such scums like me. Transfer of Velua(30k) & Jameyyed(10k) fails.
4)Now: everybody in DRZ hight ranks(exept Vovka, praise the Lord his dota soul) thinks that: I'm a traitor, that COA left because of our XP battles(my fault), that I betrayed Hetman, Harpag & other UIF guys, I made the quit of COA look good & now UIF cannot claim proper victory.
So, in conclusion: I was doing all this stuff on my own(& I thought it would be in the best interest of everybody to save 200k troops from disappearance & to use it forfunxp battles). I will ask everybody who got their Lordship to give this fiefs back(so COA will be able to destroy their troops, equip & gold). All my fiefs should be seized by members of Druzhina without resistance on my side. I will resign from DRZ(both faction & clan)& will join Mercs :lol:
GL, HF! btw, Volvo created new game mod for Dota
Hey, Segd, no hard feelings on our side really, its just pity that Coalition decided to withdraw... Better to end this this way, than another.
I personally think its far more entertaining to have battles against someone that one has chosen as enemy rather than battles "for fun". On the other hand strat become more boring recently indeed, so maybe it was the time to end this shit...
Shame on you HRE and Fallen :rolleyes:
everyone should respect Coalition's decision.
it's really sad to see you guys leaving now and i can understand it, that you are giving all your fiefs to segd but wouldn't it be much better to give the fiefs to random small clans? you would bring some colour and action to this strat and make some small factions happy (for example fenris...this guys are so poor :D )
Well, we at least were dedicated enough to defend the fiefs to the end...
everyone should respect Coalition's decision.Some fiefs already cleansed from any life. So go get 'em! :wink:
it's really sad to see you guys leaving now and i can understand it, that you are giving all your fiefs to segd but wouldn't it be much better to give the fiefs to random small clans? you would bring some colour and action to this strat and make some small factions happy (for example fenris...this guys are so poor :D )
it's just a freaking game erasmas -.-
Some fiefs already cleansed from any life. So go get 'em! :wink:
It is mind boggling that anyone would consider Segd a "traitor" or blame him for us leaving. The XP battles were not a cause but a symptom, for ages we have been nothing more than a faint shadow of our former selves, only looking strong on paper due to the large amount of resources. Unable to do anything on the map, with very few actually active strat players left and tired and burned out from over one year of Strat, with the same few guys doing the majority of the work. Virtually no one had the energy nor the desire to continue "playing" this. Fun ceased to be a reason to work on strat long ago. The only driving factor was to not letting all we worked so long and hard for go to waste. That is why we resisted as best as we could when we got attacked, instead of turning into gift boxes, roll over and die a spawn cap like Mercs & Templars. XP battles seemed a good and easy to do alternative to our originally planned exit: burn it all and call it quits.
Nobody questins UIFs victory anyway, ours was a lost cause for almost half a year now. Even if we had active strat players to actually do anything with all the stuff we still have, we would not stand a chance with virtually the entire map against us, except for the Bros (honorable mention).
If you serouisly feel cheated out of an already achieved victory, I am truly sorry, maybe you should have tried harder to actually capture one of our fiefs. :mrgreen:
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@no_rules - this is your 5 minutes - do not waste your chance and do something funny at the end of round!
wait, coalition leaves strat forever or only for this round?
we would not stand a chance with virtually the entire map against us, except for the Bros (honorable mention).Yruma Castle will be open for every HRE, Fallen or Great Khan who wants to participate in Strat furthermore. We are quite inactive and we wont become active unless you wait 2 years for me finishing school^^
Coalition will survive, leaders may not want to keep going the same as ever (i can understand that), but i can't imagine every member will quit.
Do them at better times then. I havent been able to do any recently cos they're at stupid-o'clock.
It's kind of you to say this but I think you do not know how few active guys we actually have/had left.
If some of our guiys should want to continue, they are of course free to do so.
that explains a lot :cry: :cry: :cry:
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HRE - you stinking cowards :!:(click to show/hide)
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Thank you DRZ!
Lastly, kind of hoped you might have sent some of those troops our way - I can promise we'd have made use of them.
Question: where are these tickets? We are talking about at least 120k , and most likely much more . If these tickets are burned , this is just sad. Much better export all that shit even to NA or whatever, than mindlessly waste . Troop cap at 1 and hey - fu all. I hope that's only my paranoia.
Guys, whatever you do, JUST DON'T BURN THE FIEFS. Don't respec them. It will make them utterly useless, and beyond repair in this phase of this round. And someone may still want to have some fun. Don't leave Strat with the sticker "dickheads" on your back.I understand your concern, but I would like you to consider the following as somebody who was not active in strat himself:
I don't care who gets the troops, just as long as they aren't deleted... Cos that'd be a pretty big waste.Deleting the troops would be dickish to their own members, I mean fuck, they could sell them for quite a few looms.
Nikodin, I do not know it is only you who is a selfish, egocentric idiot, or if it the entire clan full of morons. We used to have a lot of respect for you guys.
Fuck you, fuck off, and burn in hell.
Nikodin, I do not know it is only you who is a selfish, egocentric idiot, or if it the entire clan full of morons. We used to have a lot of respect for you guys.Man don't be that rude...
Fuck you, fuck off, and burn in hell.
Deleting the troops would be dickish to their own members, I mean fuck, they could sell them for quite a few looms.How much do you offer for troops,gear and silver? :P
Nikodin, I do not know it is only you who is a selfish, egocentric idiot, or if it the entire clan full of morons. We used to have a lot of respect for you guys.
Fuck you, fuck off, and burn in hell.
Dude. They tried to make up a good solution with giving everything they had to segd and the druzhina clan. But instead of saying thanks for alot of xp battles you can do with Coa gear, many grey order and drz members called Segd an traitor and asshole. Rogue and his crew is not willed to hold all the fiefs, because they want to give away all the responsibilities that sticks together with this. They tried to give away and you resisted. It is your own fault, that all those troops are burned...What I don't understand is why they would want to give the fifes/gear/troops to the already biggest strat faction and not small clans/factions. With more small factions who are active and fight each other it would make strat a lot more interesting instead of just giving it to the big guys. Okay they can make exp battles, but let's be fair those aren't even fun. That's at least what I think
How much do you offer for troops,gear and silver? :PNothing myself, I do however know plenty of people who pay like 1lp per 1k-2k troops.
Guys that arent tired, old in strat, set in their ways, has no prestige to loose and have everything to win. Guys that might actually do something other than defending. No old grudges from past strats, and only eager and willingness to fight and crush their enemies.
Rogue - you stinking coward !
hey moron what part you didnt understand? they are inactive!!!!!
Nikodin, I do not know it is only you who is a selfish, egocentric idiot, or if it the entire clan full of morons. We used to have a lot of respect for you guys.
Fuck you, fuck off, and burn in hell.
1. Noone from Greys called Segd traitor or collaborateur.
2. We are grateful for trying to save resources.
3. For all this shit I blame only one person. Rogue - you stinking coward and murder!
Wow harpag and erasmas, I thought you guys were allright, but being this butthurt and offensive because somebody decides to stop wasting his time on a online game and put it in things that matter like family and friends...
I get that you guys are disappointed, but don't you maybe think that what you are writing here just goes a liiiittle bit over the top?
It's a game and I suggest you sleep some nights over this before making an even bigger dick out of yourself. Insulting Rogue won't bring him back or make him change his mind, sadly because he was great at what he did.
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I know the feeling, and the mood within a clan that has 95% of the members not caring. Why? Cant you remember the feeling of strategus in the beginning when you started to understand things - the fun, the excitement of your first battle, your first war - the first time in a strategus battle. The first time you commanded a battle, first rollcall. The cheer in the ts when your clan won its first flagcap or took its first castle. This is what drives the people in a clan, this is what gives them energy and willingness. The perfect way to kill that energy is to just not make the guys active parts of the clan or grow to the clan to big and just hand out orders like its a single player game.
When the situation is like u describe it, its way past time to change leadership to someone with more energy that can boost the clan - to create a common goal that the team will fight for.
And yes, the decision to do what your clan did was not very democratic, but thats not my business in which way Coa rules its "bots".
If any scandivian people would like to continue participating in a clan with energy, where the members matter and where they are not only allowed to but will in some way be forced to act by voting on different things that is important to the clan - feel free to contact us.
And if you are not scandinavian - feel free to join us anyway
Btw - did I tell you we are going to war today? 16000 men marching as we speak 8-)
Question: where are these tickets? We are talking about at least 120k , and most likely much more .200k+ :rolleyes:
Noone from Greys called Segd traitor or collaborateur.Yep. You could blame me or Rogue, or everybody else for burning tickets, but I will blame this ppl with whom I played for 3 years in one clan & because of whom I'm leaving Druzhina: Druzhina_Archer_KMC, Druzhina_RXN, Druzhina_Noobsaibot. Let their ping be always high.
Maybe they can offer hospitality to an exiled HRE nobleman?
1. cant say the rollcalls ever got me excited :P
2. Coalition has sat in the east for a long time doing nothing and that kind of activity kills clans, but you cant really blame just them.
3. Now just dont send 16000 kalmars at me ive got enough scandis :D
Provocation succeed :mrgreen: Prepare your anus :twisted:
[...]in the end we don't really give a fuck about what anyone of you writes or thinks anyway.
I'm completely behind the decisions made by Rogue and Segd in this matter. The fact that people COMPLAINED about us making fun battles for experience for all the players boggles my mind.Maybe the people don't just want free exp, maybe they want war, drama and epic battles, not just running around in plate and random spam a flamberge. That's at least what I play strat for
First you complain for over half a year that COA isn't active enough, then when we finally decide to do something about our tickets just sitting in our fiefs in a way that favours not only DRZ and COA but everyone who wanted to join in, you still COMPLAIN. There are many reasons why we would quit strategus, but apparently this bullshit you pulled now was the final straw to break the camel's back.
The idea to quit strategus isn't exactly a new idea to coalition. The fact that you get roflstomped by huge alliances for almost 3 years, getting backstabbed by your own, isn't something that makes you want to keep playing this game. It's true, this time we did a lot better, but in the end the numbers are still in favour of our enemies for the same damn reasons they were in the last strat rounds. The idea of taking all our tickets and gold to NA to stir some shit up over there would probably have been the best solution, because no matter what COA does on EU, it's all bullshit EVEN IF YOU GET FREE XP. At least NA has better drama than EU.
You gotta blame this on yourself, GO. Couldn't just be happy with us making xp-battles. Poor suckers =P
Things like this should actually motivate the DEVS to release a new patch with some major changes to both c-rpg and strat.If they don't do anything very soon I vote for Panos to become the new crpg master dev, he atleast care about the mod
Come on dudes, the mod is really dying this time and you simply don`t give a fuck.
All the guessing about the inner workings of our faction is silly. Fancy theories but nothing more and it is easy to parade the flag of activity for people who barely played a third of the round in a position of responsibility.
And for everyone hating on us and because I love quoting myself:
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... to grow there, become strong and powerful, so that we can have another war. Real war, not phony themed battle.That would only make sense when you guys too, would burn your shit and start over. Otherwise you will stay in the Overlord thrown.
As I already said, even those few fiefs which are in the process of respeccing won't last the required seven days. This is completely mute point.While true, i am not sure we all shouldnt do that freely anyways .. *sigh* i know i dont have a fief ^^ rigth now, still, take me out of the equation and if you still want to have a reset, the closest to it aslong not done by devs, would need to come from us.
Maybe they will, maybe not. I hope they will. Just don't do it in the first place - its is really useless for you, and ruins game for others (not only GO). It so petty, you know...a) you may not want HRE to do it, still you have no ground to ask for it, their choice
a) you may not want HRE to do it, still you have no ground to ask for it, their choice
b) anyone who would take that stuff, surly would have less ressources to use, and also likely not that accustomed to Strategus, how much time would you give them to build up? a week a month , 3 months? Before you decide lets rape em. Those who come afterwards there, wont measure with Coa , not in member count, in experience ... so they wont be worthy opponents in comparison to the old well suited GO or is it only to stroke the epen ...
it is truly time to reset strat
It still gonna be the same thing all over again. I have been member in HRE for 3 strategus rounds now and as long as UIF consists of DRZ and GO there will never be a change in the outcome of the game. Because sooner or later smaller clans will always join in on the big UIF to rape everyone else on the map. This time around with the initial Anti-UIF we could have even had a fair chance to wipe out UIF, but we all know how that turned out, don't we my dear (ex-)wolves?You can't possibly blame anyone for wanting to wipe you and mercs out, maybe if you weren't huge jerkoffs people wouldn't support UIF in that, even funnier is you blaming Wolves, mercs struck first, and besides that, merc leadership personally told me that you and them were planning on wiping out wolves first thing if you managed to defeat UIF. Literally every small clan leader I know sided against you not because they wanted to join the winning team, heck you guys were winning for a period, they joined against you because they either hated Kapikulu, Mercs, or HRE/Fallen, OR because you guys were "bullying" them on strat. Nordmen joined the UIF side because mercs were jerkoffs, Shu Han joined the UIF side seriously because you didn't let them fight a private war with Crusaders when UIF was inactive, Wolves were planning on attacking mercs because you were gonna wipe them after UIF, but mercs struck first and then they actively supported UIF, half of the smaller clans that sided with UIF did so because you guys are dicks, not because they wanted to join the big UIF to rape everyone else on the map.
Yeah we do you let us to fight for ourselfs with no roster help
You are from United Kingdom, yet you fail to write proper English.
hahaha what an illeterature punk
...This time around with the initial Anti-UIF we could have even had a fair chance to wipe out UIF, but we all know how that turned out, don't we my dear (ex-)wolves?1) Mercs tricking me into attacking Ottomans, while staying out of that and gaining fiefs for free
he talks like a div anorl
You ...
Wow you sure have a very efficient way to convince other people of your viewpoint Harpag & Erasmas, with your random flaming and insulting.
We contemplated leaving Strat for a long time now. Ever since the onset of the "Great Inactivity" during the summer month we have been in steady decline. All the resources in the world won't do you much good if you have no one left to move armies or do any other kind of work in Strat. Covering our fiefs with at least semi-inactive, partially reachable guys was a challenge. In the end the sole soul still moving on the map and doing stuff was Nikdoin. Some fresh blood tried to rise, were tutored and groomed and inevitably burned out, some really fast. The main burden of work, for over a year, was carried by the same few guys, whose main motivation was to keep on going since so much work has already been invested.
With that background an exit plan was devised. The options we had were rather simple: roll over and go inactive and let our enemies take all our stuff for free, like Mercs and Templars did. We wanted to avoid that, until we decide to go we wanted to resist as best as we can, which we did quite well. Give all our stuff away to friends, there was basically no one left. We considered moving it to NA and giving it to FCC, but with so few guys, so much stuff and later so many enemies walking around this was not really feasible. In the end we decided on erasing everything we have and just disappear. This plan was to set in motion once even the most hardcore guys finally had enough.
After around one month of brutal fighting our foes ceased to attack, we can't blame them for that. Attacking the same fucking place 10+ times in a row with still flowing reinforcements and a basically unlimited enemy stockpile, it gets boring and frustrating. We call that the Uxkhal syndrome. It is more a flaw in the game than a lack of resolve in the factions.
About a month after even our most eager foes ceased to attack us the idea was born to turn at least some of our resources into XP, converting everything would probably too long. We offered this option to DRZ, GO and Shu Han. GO wanted to kill us in the classic way and even told us what they wanted to try next, dance with our cities. I can respect that, although we are not here to provide the antagonist for what they consider the most fun for them. Shu Han thought we are afraid, but they are rather silly anyway. DRZ eagerly accepted our proposal and after initial fights plans were hatched to enlarge and speed up the process, enhanced by plans to just fight ourselves for XP. Lack of our most valuable resource, active strat players, and pressing needs poor Nikodin had to attend delayed all this.
Then came the expected GO assault on our cities and what we expected to be an almost untakeable fortress turned out to be a craphole with really bad flag distribution. The prospect of fighting a 2-3 hour battle at least a week or more, where the primary strategy consists of a dance around the respawn timer was the final nail in the coffin. The remaining active Strat leaders, Nikodin, Dark and me decided it is time to quit. Instead of going with the origjnal old plan we offered some our stuff to DRZ to turn into XP. They have proven to be our most relaxed adversaries, with Segd and Vovka being cool guys and their proven utter trustworthiness (we let them spawncap one of our castles to save their tickets), this was logical choice. Segd suggested to go way beyond what we had in mind and to give them basically all we had. We agreed.
Unfortunately not being a die-hard hatemonger and taking stuff from an opponent who wishes to leave anyway is treason for some people. At first I thought Segd was making a joke when he told me about it the next day. I still can't wrap my head around why someone could think like this. Cold war much?
It is a testament to Segds integrity that he even handed all the stuff back, which we immediately submitted to the old exit plan. The fires burned hot. Respeccing was not even part of that plan, until you whined so eloquently about it, not that it matters anyway. All fiefs will be taken over until the seven days are up. This was a mute point to begin with, but hey at least you get worked up about it enough to spew more nonsense and random insults.
Another point worth adressing: giving everything to smaller factions. We could have tried that true. But first of all we would not just hand our resources over to anyone, first choice would have been friends like FCC & Bros. Logistical problems ruled out NA and Bros didn't even want Tulga with everything inside. Individually handing it out to smaller guys is way too much of a hassle and would take too long to be feasible. Once it became obvious what we were up to it was likely we would get attacked to claim a piece of the cake. Fighting more battles was something we wanted to avoid. It's not like anyone is entitled to our stuff anyway and we already tried leaving it all behind to be turned into XP.
All the guessing about the inner workings of our faction is silly. Fancy theories but nothing more and it is easy to parade the flag of activity for people who barely played a third of the round in a position of responsibility. This strat round is just way too long with next to no support for bugs, imbalances and glitches. It should have ended 5-6 month ago with the onset of the great inactivity.
And for everyone hating on us and because I love quoting myself:
blah blah blah
blah blah blah - Rogue - you can say whatever you wish, you can even write a book about it, but don't try complicate simple things. When a single person decides to stop playing, doing topic on forum, gives to friends or strangers looms and gold, and then deletes character. Strategus is completely different caliber - it's collective work of many people, but you decide cancel this "multicharacter" without donate looms and gold. I'm sorry, but I see it this way. I certainly understand logistical difficulties (also play this game and it's not easy ), but if someone has devoted so much time and work, could make one last effort and get out of game like a man...
...I'm disappointed because I thought that you, as most reliable from our opponents, you could predict fact that you can't invest your own time in forever and you need start "training staff " and delegate responsibilities.
Long ago I found my successor, which is much better than me, and he preparing their own successors. For over a year I'm for my faction completely useless, but I come because I like it. This is necessary, because otherwise we are just tired and frustrated as in your case...
...and don't be surprised by this "ha gaayyy for 10 hours" ( lol ) you pissed me off and in my opinion you deserve it - and don't be hysterical with these alleged insults. We know everyone here like bald horses and despite hard language we're all dudes.
What can I say at the end? Fu & take care? Fucking sad story...
nice you bring it back to the important point:
we were willing to do xp battles. we were willing to give our stuff to DRZ.
it was declined.
if you would actually read our posts, you would also see that it was not just rogues decision to burn it all.
Bullshit, when DRZ declined, you could give it to just anyone, but you burned it because you wanted it. Rocketscience :rolleyes:They would all have gone to the biggest clans anyway.
They would all have gone to the biggest clans anyway.
So what is going on now exactly?
Coalition giving all fiefs away without a fight to "random" other factions?
Me needs xp ... :( :(
Noooooooo but I still need 30 million xp to get lvl 34 again :|501 million to 37 :shock:
If these resources were designed for small clans, why do you wanted give it for DRZ? Do they look like small clan? :rolleyes:
No one knows exactly, time will tell, but most probably strat is pretty dead...
strat lives and dies with Wessex...(click to show/hide)
You never die on strat, you only lose hope.
If these resources were designed for small clans, why do you wanted give it for DRZ? Do they look like small clan? :rolleyes:Rogue likes segd, and I guess he wanted to give it to him to keep it away from others?
let me get emo too :mrgreen:
btw recognize that song? ^^
If these resources were designed for small clans, why do you wanted give it for DRZ? Do they look like small clan? :rolleyes:
No one knows exactly, time will tell, but most probably strat is pretty dead...
Just everyday dramaenjoy it UIF :D
I like turtles.
Idiot. The difference between GO / DRZ and the rest of clans is now greater than ever. Am considering distribution or burning own tickets to redress the balance.
If you really cared about having good strategus fights and not just braggin rights, you'd fight DRZ.
Remember, its a game.
I'll try to explain:
This war game is built on relationships and teamwork, and additionally requires motivation. You need to have an opponent and beat him on the battlefield. When you really like this guy its a bit harder treat him properly :mrgreen: Example from sport: boxing: before fight - severe faces with heavy look in the spotlight, then weigh, match, and finally 2 guys with broken noses hug like gays on the eyes of whole public :lol:
I have serious concerns that our war with guys from DRZ immediately becomes a XP war, which is dull and unattractive. Do not get me wrong, but we're friends with them for years, and will be hard to find in a "fighting spirit" and XP itself is not enough. Call me a hater, but I think that an excess of love does not help the game, and after so many years of knowledge, it is not easy, because most of us like almost everyone. Tragedy :mrgreen:
This is great news, finally the huge vampire draining the blood of our members has been slain.One of the least shitty posts in strat diplomacy history.
I fucking hate strategus because of the negative impact is has on our community.
Too many of our members burn out because of strat, and then they quit crpg, or they keep joining those damned strat fights and depopulating the normal servers.
When i fire up crpg in the evening to play and EU1 has 30players EU2 has 30players and EU3 has 100players, then you know its going to be a shit evening.
This is me hoping that i will see my friends come chill on TS and play just for fun, its been so long since we had more than 5-6 HRE online together.
And from my point of view, its really fun to see you UIF's raging about this, dont you fucking understand you brought this onto yourselves?
I know its a common tactic to bring friends to win a fight with superior numbers, but that shit doesnt work so well in a computer game, cause the underdog side will be tired of unfair situations and do something else.
Too many banners on a server just causes to opposition to find other things to do with their time, we all know this. But its different with crpg because there isnt any time investment, strat is a huge timesucking vampire bitch.
So come come to EU2, we havent had 100players there for sooooooo looooong.
Hey Tindel - I like sincerity in your post - without any nonsense and scamming.
That is how i also percieve rogue, rough on the edges but a straight shooter, i think you both have more incommen then you comfortably would like to admit :wink: then again, i wasnt there in strategus 1 and dont really know how the feude between UIF and Fallen(HRE/GK) started. Anyone care to give a history lesson on that? Anything sinister in that tale? come on give me jucy story :lol:
That is your opinion and there is nothing to talk about. I respect that. It is a pity that in contrast to you, your leaders do not know how to speak with a human voice.
a bit harsh, only because they are not all continously flaming rage goblins :mrgreen: doenst exclude their empathy or ability to understand your point of view, though i guess they still have a different one.
We hope to see many of "yellow bastards" on EU2. Without you, this game is not the same.
That notion i fullheartedly support
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I fucking hate strategus because of the negative impact is has on our community.
+1, i may but clarify with "our" i imply all of the cRPG community, as there are many game mechanics which lead to missunderstandings or can be used to fuck people over(late night attacks, item bombing, huge factions controlling mostly everything, bug aboozing, multiaccounting, account sharing, ... )
Too many of our members burn out because of strat, and then they quit crpg, or they keep joining those damned strat fights and depopulating the normal servers.
When i fire up crpg in the evening to play and EU1 has 30 players EU2 has 30players and EU3 has 100players, then you know its going to be a shit evening.
This is me hoping that i will see my friends come chill on TS and play just for fun, its been so long since we had more than 5-6 HRE online together.
We have a Sunday implemented for regular casual eu1/eu2 server play, yesterday i and other Fenris took part in a Strategus fight, but several were not taken into it. Therefor they again went somewhere alone. From now on, i intend that Fenris wont participate to merc within strat battles on Sundays, erm well ... aslong we are not getting attacked ^^ ourselves. Point is, you can try and make your own rules and stick with them to protect your own community.
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Too many banners on a server just causes to opposition to find other things to do with their time, we all know this.
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imagine how the small clans with 5 to 30 members must feel, seeing factions or single clans with member counts like those of GO/DRZ/Coa. From my first time i joined Strategus in 2.0, all i approached wanted allies or corporation partners formost, not friends. Friendships may develop, but it starts with the need to unify against others. I was in 2.0 insulted by Risen, treated like an insect by Byzantium, arrogance and an effort to control from Fallen and in the end i partnered up like in a buisness arrangement with mercs. All those had been there in Strategus 1.0, all of them acted already like they are the gods and i need to kiss the floor on which they are walking. Then again, i was new to strategus and didnt know half of what i know now, but atmospere often was always supesious/paranoid touch and partly even hostile towards a clan who just was joining Strategus teh very first time.
Small clans which were working with me in 4.0, i told, sure you can try to get bigger and bigger, been there done that, but over that you will loose something too.
That is how i also percieve rogue, rough on the edges but a straight shooter, i think you both have more incommen then you comfortably would like to admit :wink:
then again, i wasnt there in strategus 1 and dont really know how the feude between UIF and Fallen(HRE/GK) started. Anyone care to give a history lesson on that? Anything sinister in that tale? come on give me jucy story
I'll try to explain:
This war game is built on relationships and teamwork, and additionally requires motivation. You need to have an opponent and beat him on the battlefield. When you really like this guy its a bit harder treat him properly :mrgreen: Example from sport: boxing: before fight - severe faces with heavy look in the spotlight, then weigh, match, and finally 2 guys with broken noses hug like gays on the eyes of whole public :lol:
I have serious concerns that our war with guys from DRZ immediately becomes a XP war, which is dull and unattractive. Do not get me wrong, but we're friends with them for years, and will be hard to find in a "fighting spirit" and XP itself is not enough. Call me a hater, but I think that an excess of love does not help the game, and after so many years of knowledge, it is not easy, because most of us like almost everyone. Tragedy :mrgreen:
Concentration deficiency problem?
This same situation nearly happened a couple of months ago, the whole leadership was sick to death of everything and totally overworked/burned out.
A call to arms came out and everyone was asked to step up and help lead, a couple guys volunteered and the fight kept going.
But those guys fell as well, and in the end it was just the hard core left.
Its not like they havent tried and tried again, but when not enough people arent willing to help its just a matter of time.
Everyone understands the frustration and dissapointment from UIF, deprived of your enemy. And i think you are entitled to have those feelings, after all you put in all that work too.
Where your alliance grew stronger everyday, and got new blood and new members, ours just dwindled and dried up.
Harpag, you are probably too focused on the coalition leadership as your enemies and that is why you get the wrong ideas.
Take a deep breath and read what they have written. Its all there, it is not bullshit.
I know these guys, they call it as they see it.
Im not the first to say, but alliances will be the death of strategus.
Your best course of action is to destroy UIF and declare war on your biggest rival.
After all, there can be only one.
@HRE guys - I'm able understand many things, but not burning all stuff - still :mad:
@Kinn - it was something between me and Beauchamp, believe me don't remember what it exactly was, but for sure bullshitt - just pretext
@Olwen - I have for you friendly advice - learn a few words in Turkish, eat some tasty kebabs, join Kapikulu, and then in a sneaky way become Sultan_Olwen_Lamhban_le_Faydit lord of of Reyvadin, and then give them all rank 0 + save. Then you'll be a hero again :mrgreen:
@Erasmas - You're on thin ice - I can kill you IRL :P
@Kesh - thanks for "-" :rolleyes:
BTW - rondel patch :shock:
I would love to give Strategus a go as simply the 'Fallen' faction. But as someone who has never sat down to learn the mechanics and devices of the Strategus map, it would be useless to even attempt to go up against DRZ/GO.
Fallen are really inactive, both in Strat and cRPG, contrary to popular belief. And even if I did give it a shot and helped in Fallen Strat leadership, and we had maybe 5 or 6 active Fallen members to play, there would be a few considerations on my mind;
- Who would we fight? We could fight anyone, without holding any previous grudges and start new wars (maybe even attack the HRShits :D), but for how long until we get curb stomped by the DRZ/GO consolidated wave.
- GO/DRZ would still consider us lead by Tomas and Rogue so we would be their first target, and again, we would get fucked almost instantly.
- I would be using this round to learn the game and fighting a huge alliance, who know exactly what they are doing, would be futile. Even if we had guidance from the likes of Nikodin, Tomas, Rogue (and whoever else called the shots for the COA), the advice and feedback would be delayed and we would already be at a huge disadvantage.
- Quite simply it would be; Noobs vs Veterans. We would get fucked so hard in weeks/days.
- I really wouldn't want two carebear block alliances fighting again, because that is just deja-vu and not fun. It would be more of "If we can avoid being a carebear alliance, so can the UIF" statement.
Regardless of all that, I would still like to give this Strat a shot but I just don't see the point if we're going to be facing UIF, again.
This is just my perspective on the matter, I haven't actually spoken to any of the Fallens about this (although I will).
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... DRZ/GO.Export Druzhina to NA, problem solved :mrgreen:
... DRZ/GO ...
... GO/DRZ ...
... UIF ...
... UIF ...
... Who gives a shit about what happened years ago?
- GO/DRZ would still consider us lead by Tomas and Rogue so we would be their first target, and again, we would get fucked almost instantly.
A change in diplomacy can happen if ppl are willing to let go of the past. Who gives a shit about what happened years ago?it's not about "past" it's more who people are. :P
it's not about "past" it's more who people are. :P
Bavvo - for sure you're fake Merc - you're too nice to be true Merc - don't try fool me :lol:
He is really a kalmarunion guy - also some guys in your clan Harpag have sworn loyalty to the Queen Margerete of Denmark, among them Hetman :lol:
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Ah i forgot something...
It seems like the Bros are the last Men standing against the UIF...everyone else started bowing infront of hetman. Weird...
oh god...
bros are completely inactive.
Only one playing these days are xdead, heibai and sometimes austri. Nogo and me are playing other games or studying/working like austri.
I wouldnt say we failed...we just didnt do that much, but what we did was quite good. KD ratios of almost 2:1 in all wars we fought...
Also i know that hetman doesnt care about one castle on the map, but its still that the bros are the only ones that own a fief, that never made any deal with him or other UIF members.
And thats why I say, Bros are the last faction on the map that are standing against UIF & Co.
Anyways, congratz Coallition, I can now safely say you killed Strat:
http://forum.melee.org/announcements/strategus-doublexp/ (http://forum.melee.org/announcements/strategus-doublexp/)
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
NI_knights?
Our great founder Beauchamp thought the Fallen as a pack of outcasts, deserters and thugs, roaming the steppes and plundering for a living, not bound to domiciliary endeavors tying them down . maybe this is the way the fallen should finally go...
I had this idea of Fallen being wayward mercenaries, being paid to intercept trade runs or army movements.That seat is already taken! :mrgreen:
You lost that sit since a long time Tyr.
Says the guy who challenged someone that hadn't been playing for ages to a very high stakes duel, then pussied out, when the defendant chose weapons and terms, making lame excuses and resorting to name calling. Stay classy. :rolleyes:
Here comes the coward, its really a shame that you went bitching to the devs to remove your custom title, it suited you best.
This is exactly what they wanted :D
WAS THE COALITION ABOUT TO INVADE NA OR SOME SHIT?!?!?!!?
http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=6130
No we never made any pacts with UIF and yes we were always with CoalitionNAP with DRZ maybe? Wasn't you curious why nobody attacked you in ages? :?
NAP with DRZ maybe? Wasn't you curious why nobody attacked you in ages? :?as always Ni's left hand didn't know what Ni's right hand already fap fap today :P
Actually no.
Says the guy who challenged someone that hadn't been playing for ages to a very high stakes duel, then pussied out, when the defendant chose weapons and terms, making lame excuses and resorting to name calling. Stay classy. :rolleyes:
I joined Fallen because of this theme.
I had this idea of Fallen being wayward mercenaries, being paid to intercept trade runs or army movements. That would be pretty cool for roleplay for the Fallens.
I guess we could hold a vote on our forums to see how Fallen want to play next strat.
As I told you already, why don`t you roll with us??
We are currently 6 members in the Guard, since I dont like doing mass recruiting, but our numbers increase slow but steady
here have a look at our thread, http://forum.melee.org/faction-halls/tagma-tn-varangn/
our TS channel is on mercs TS, we`re there mostly at evenings!
Is it because I refused your several insistent invitations to join your clan that you have to act so much as a moron, mostly in unrelated threads and when nobody cares? :rolleyes:
Anyway, la bave du crapaud n'atteint pas la blanche colombe. :|
Yeah I asked you to join us one time, and thats because I though you were good or at least mediocre, later on when me and centurii kept humiliating you on EU3, realised how much you suck, and you cant even kill a naked peasant. But that didnt had anything to do with me challenging you, little white dove :lol:
A naked peasant who knows how to block can be tough to kill sometimes, im sure i could bring muffin along in peasant gear and he would fuck you up.
I told him that I didnt want any gold from his part, I told him that I could use a STF character instead of my level 34 main, I told him that he could pick my melee class , I even told him that I would give him a week to train himself, but instead he chickened out, and he said to duel him in a Couch duel, which is totally based on luck, no skill or brain required just pure luck and timing.
I don`t know why most people think that Olwen is good, he was always bad, he just had the luck to start from the start of the mod when the average melee skill was bad and crouch huscarl and plate armour.
I can take him anytime, with any conditions, anywhere, as long as our duel is based on true skill, not some random couch crap.
Says the guy who challenged someone that hadn't been playing for ages to a very high stakes duel, then pussied out, when the defendant chose weapons and terms, making lame excuses and resorting to name calling. Stay classy. :rolleyes:Duel rules = defendant chooses weapons and terms.
Duel rules = defendant chooses weapons and terms.
Also, more than half of those excuses are completely false, the initial challenge had none of that.
I challenge you to a longspear duel for 4 MW items, today, at 18:30 EET on NA3. If you refuse, you are major pussy. Sounds alright? I'm sure it does.i will do that, but give me 4 years to practice
I challenge you to a longspear duel for 4 MW items, today, at 18:30 EET on NA3. If you refuse, you are major pussy. Sounds alright? I'm sure it does.
Ah, sorry, according to Panos-logic, that means you back out and thus give me the right to call you a pussy and a coward for all eternity. :lol:
Ok Ill be there.
This is so silly.sure, but whoever wins, the whinning afterwards
We already have that role Tizz :D, none of this East V West BS anymore, but feel free to compete with us, would be interesting,maybe a Merc v Fallen war, could be fun
Ok Ill be there.H'okay then :lol:
H'okay then :lol:
Best of 5.
'War' would imply that each side are providing a fair contest to one another. What you meant to say was Fallen vs Merc massacre*, because the victors write history; and that's how we'll write it!
HOHOHO MERRY CHRISTMAS, FAIR JOUST TO ONES PERSON :D!
lol make it later though because Im in a 3 hour strategus xp battle!
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SO RONERY
Oh I forgot, I even told him, he could start with 3 wins in a first to 7 duel. Such a pussy he is that he even denied that.
When someone challenges you, you do it, even if you know that you are gonna lose, you just go with it.
In the past I had challenged Cyber, and had my ass kicked, he later challenged me, and even though I knew that I didnt had many chances of winning, I proceeded to duel him and lost 5-3, when someone challenges you, you duel him, you dont pussy out.
Just to be clear, it was 5-2 and I didn't issue the challenge, you challenged me after promising to humiliate me like some other wannabe hero that you supposedly beaten, you said it should take you a week to be ready to duel me but you got around to it half a year later so don't feel too bad if you have to wait a bit PTX.
It was 5-3, but whatever I`m not gonna argue with you on that, if you want to count 2 , be my guest its not gonna make a difference on me.
And you had to wait half a year, because I got banned :lol:, also no need to be such an obnoxious little prick bro, you aint nothing special, relax.
Also, not that it matters anymore because I lost, but since you like bringing in more details ill do you the favour, I duelled you with a level 32 polearmer fully unloomed, while you on the other hand had a level 35 fully loomed 1hander, with maxed out IF and body armour, I needed 5 and in some cases 6 hits with a long bardiche to kill you while you needed 2. As I said, nothing special.
Also don`t forget to mention that you said, that if you were playing with your alt, you`d probably lose.
how did the Ode vs Greys battle end? My girlfriend came by and I had to quit in the first minutes of the game when they were still refusing to open the fucking gates.please don't do this again, enjoy your last week(s). XP battles won't make you lose your 'precious' fiefs anyway.
Hetman, that was fucking gay.