Coalition-Druzhina battle agreement aka Gentelmens War

[Harpag]

Hey Tindel - I like sincerity in your post - without any nonsense and scamming. That is your opinion and there is nothing to talk about. I respect that. It is a pity that in contrast to you, your leaders do not know how to speak with a human voice.

We hope to see many of  "yellow bastards" on EU2. Without you, this game is not the same.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

This is great news, finally the huge vampire draining the blood of our members has been slain.
I fucking hate strategus because of the negative impact is has on our community.

Too many of our members burn out because of strat, and then they quit crpg, or they keep joining those damned strat fights and depopulating the normal servers.
 When i fire up crpg in the evening to play and EU1 has 30players EU2 has 30players and EU3 has 100players, then you know its going to be a shit evening.

This is me hoping that i will see my friends come chill on TS and play just for fun, its been so long since we had more than 5-6 HRE online together.

And from my point of view, its really fun to see you UIF's raging about this, dont you fucking understand you brought this onto yourselves?
I know its a common tactic to bring friends to win a fight with superior numbers, but that shit doesnt work so well in a computer game, cause the underdog side will be tired of unfair situations and do something else.

Too many banners on a server just causes to opposition to find other things to do with their time, we all know this. But its different with crpg because there isnt any time investment, strat is a huge timesucking vampire bitch.

So come come to EU2, we havent had 100players there for sooooooo looooong.

One of the least shitty posts in strat diplomacy history.

[kinngrimm]

Hey Tindel - I like sincerity in your post - without any nonsense and scamming.
That is how i also percieve rogue, rough on the edges but a straight shooter, i think you both have more incommen then you comfortably would like to admit  then again, i wasnt there in strategus 1 and dont really know how the feude between UIF and Fallen(HRE/GK) started. Anyone care to give a history lesson on that? Anything sinister in that tale? come on give me jucy story 

That is your opinion and there is nothing to talk about. I respect that. It is a pity that in contrast to you, your leaders do not know how to speak with a human voice.
a bit harsh, only because they are not all continously flaming rage goblins  doenst exclude their empathy or ability to understand your point of view, though i guess they still have a different one.

We hope to see many of  "yellow bastards" on EU2. Without you, this game is not the same.
That notion i fullheartedly support

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I fucking hate strategus because of the negative impact is has on our community.
+1, i may but clarify with "our" i imply all of the cRPG community, as there are many game mechanics which lead to missunderstandings or can be used to fuck people over(late night attacks, item bombing, huge factions controlling mostly everything, bug aboozing, multiaccounting, account sharing, ... )

Too many of our members burn out because of strat, and then they quit crpg, or they keep joining those damned strat fights and depopulating the normal servers.
When i fire up crpg in the evening to play and EU1 has 30 players EU2 has 30players and EU3 has 100players, then you know its going to be a shit evening.

This is me hoping that i will see my friends come chill on TS and play just for fun, its been so long since we had more than 5-6 HRE online together.
We have a Sunday implemented for regular casual eu1/eu2 server play, yesterday i and other Fenris took part in a Strategus fight, but several were not taken into it. Therefor they again went somewhere alone. From now on, i intend that Fenris wont participate to merc within strat battles on Sundays, erm well ... aslong we are not getting attacked ^^ ourselves. Point is, you can try and make your own rules and stick with them to protect your own community.


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Too many banners on a server just causes to opposition to find other things to do with their time, we all know this.
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imagine how the small clans with 5 to 30 members must feel, seeing factions or single clans with member counts like those of GO/DRZ/Coa. From my first time i joined Strategus in 2.0, all i approached wanted allies or corporation partners formost, not friends. Friendships may develop, but it starts with the need to unify against others. I was in 2.0 insulted by Risen, treated like an insect by Byzantium, arrogance and an effort to control from Fallen and in the end i partnered up like in a buisness arrangement with mercs. All those had been there in Strategus 1.0, all of them acted already like they are the gods and i need to kiss the floor on which they are walking. Then again, i was new to strategus and didnt know half of what i know now, but atmospere often was always supesious/paranoid touch and partly even hostile towards a clan who just was joining Strategus teh very first time.
Small clans which were working with me in 4.0, i told, sure you can try to get bigger and bigger, been there done that, but over that you will loose something too.

[Erasmas]

That is how i also percieve rogue, rough on the edges but a straight shooter, i think you both have more incommen then you comfortably would like to admit 

Oh, does it mean Rouge is an animal disguised in human skin as well? 

then again, i wasnt there in strategus 1 and dont really know how the feude between UIF and Fallen(HRE/GK) started. Anyone care to give a history lesson on that? Anything sinister in that tale? come on give me jucy story

Fallen is an old story, dating strat I or II,  can't recall. HRE/GK is a bit fresher.  Nothing sinister or juicy, really. Maybe except them being stack of douchebags  Read Harpag's post carefully - he got the point I guess...

I'll try to explain:

This war game is built on relationships and teamwork, and additionally requires motivation. You need to have an opponent and beat him on the battlefield. When you really like this guy its a bit harder treat him properly    Example from sport: boxing: before fight - severe faces with heavy look in the spotlight, then weigh, match, and finally 2 guys with broken noses hug like gays on the eyes of whole public 

I have serious concerns that our war with guys from DRZ immediately becomes a  XP war, which is dull and unattractive. Do not get me wrong, but we're friends with them for years, and will be hard to find in a "fighting spirit"  and XP itself is not enough. Call me a hater, but I think that an excess of love does not help the game, and after so many years of knowledge, it is not easy, because most of us like almost everyone. Tragedy 

[Farooq]

stop writing so long textes 

[Erasmas]

Concentration deficiency problem?

[Chris_the_Animal]

Concentration deficiency problem?

Nope just tldr cause i got other things to do then complaining about things that already happened and wont be returned or made undone.

[Tindel]

This same situation nearly happened a couple of months ago, the whole leadership was sick to death of everything and totally overworked/burned out.
A call to arms came out and everyone was asked to step up and help lead, a couple guys volunteered and the fight kept going.

But those guys fell as well, and in the end it was just the hard core left.
Its not like they havent tried and tried again, but when not enough people arent willing to help its just a matter of time.

Everyone understands the frustration and dissapointment from UIF, deprived of your enemy. And i think you are entitled to have those feelings, after all you put in all that work too.
Where your alliance grew stronger everyday, and got new blood and new members, ours just dwindled and dried up.


Harpag, you are probably too focused on the coalition leadership as your enemies and that is why you get the wrong ideas.
Take a deep breath and read what they have written. Its all there, it is not bullshit.
I know these guys, they call it as they see it.

Im not the first to say, but alliances will be the death of strategus.
Your best course of action is to destroy UIF and declare war on your biggest rival.

After all, there can be only one.

[Casimir]

If all the uif cared about was fighting battles for fun they would have gone to war with one another long ago.

[Erasmas]

Problem with reading with comprehension, huh?

[Butan]

The boxer analogy was pretty good.


But you should use this analogy this way : friend boxer or enemy boxer, there is no difference, they both fight and enjoy the fight. Because the fight itself need no hate or love, it just need fighting spirit (like you said). The fighting spirit come more from the fight itself than the relationship the 2 boxers have. You dont need to hate each other to fight each other, find a gameplay reason for war, not a real life relationship reason 


Then, if there is no gameplay reason not to fight each other, I would understand but from where I stand, and seeing strategus history, its more complicated than that yes?

Even after months of strategus stalking, I still dont understand Hetman-Vovka (and other lieutenants) relationship   

[NuberT]

This same situation nearly happened a couple of months ago, the whole leadership was sick to death of everything and totally overworked/burned out.
A call to arms came out and everyone was asked to step up and help lead, a couple guys volunteered and the fight kept going.

But those guys fell as well, and in the end it was just the hard core left.
Its not like they havent tried and tried again, but when not enough people arent willing to help its just a matter of time.

Everyone understands the frustration and dissapointment from UIF, deprived of your enemy. And i think you are entitled to have those feelings, after all you put in all that work too.
Where your alliance grew stronger everyday, and got new blood and new members, ours just dwindled and dried up.


Harpag, you are probably too focused on the coalition leadership as your enemies and that is why you get the wrong ideas.
Take a deep breath and read what they have written. Its all there, it is not bullshit.
I know these guys, they call it as they see it.

Im not the first to say, but alliances will be the death of strategus.
Your best course of action is to destroy UIF and declare war on your biggest rival.

After all, there can be only one.

ye take me for example, once the Kaisers right hand^^ I became so bored of strat and the UIF (particularly after the mulitaccount banwave and the we quit QQ from the UIF), I played WTF 1 battle in 2013 for HRE..

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EDIT: I played 46 battles in 2012 btw..

[Olwen]

imo half of the grey order should join hre and the other half should join drz

like in ww2 

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that's a joke, don't be mad

[Harpag]

@HRE guys - I'm able understand many things, but not burning all stuff - still 
@Kinn - it was something between me and Beauchamp, believe me don't remember what it exactly was, but for sure bullshitt - just pretext
@Olwen - I have for you friendly advice - learn a few words in Turkish, eat some tasty kebabs, join Kapikulu, and then in a sneaky way become Sultan_Olwen_Lamhban_le_Faydit lord of of Reyvadin, and then give them all rank 0 + save. Then you'll be a hero again 
@Erasmas - You're on thin ice - I can kill you IRL 
@Kesh - thanks for "-" 

BTW - rondel patch 

[Lt_Anders]

@HRE guys - I'm able understand many things, but not burning all stuff - still 
@Kinn - it was something between me and Beauchamp, believe me don't remember what it exactly was, but for sure bullshitt - just pretext
@Olwen - I have for you friendly advice - learn a few words in Turkish, eat some tasty kebabs, join Kapikulu, and then in a sneaky way become Sultan_Olwen_Lamhban_le_Faydit lord of of Reyvadin, and then give them all rank 0 + save. Then you'll be a hero again 
@Erasmas - You're on thin ice - I can kill you IRL 
@Kesh - thanks for "-" 

BTW - rondel patch 

Even Better. Good job whoring troops and not giving XP to anyone.