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Re: Coalition-Druzhina battle agreement aka Gentelmens War
« Reply #105 on: December 14, 2013, 02:15:03 pm »
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Just transfered last fief back to COA. DRZ now officially don't have any COA property.
Question: where are these tickets? We are talking about at least 120k , and most likely much more .
200k+  :rolleyes:
Noone from Greys called Segd traitor or collaborateur.
Yep. You could blame me or Rogue, or everybody else for burning tickets, but I will blame this ppl with whom I played for 3 years in one clan & because of whom I'm leaving Druzhina: Druzhina_Archer_KMC, Druzhina_RXN, Druzhina_Noobsaibot. Let their ping be always high.

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Re: Coalition-Druzhina battle agreement aka Gentelmens War
« Reply #106 on: December 14, 2013, 02:21:25 pm »
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Maybe they can offer hospitality to an exiled HRE nobleman?

Make your way to Reindi castle m8 - join our teamspeak - it will be full tonight I assure you - BUT leave your grudges and old strats behind - bring nothing but the the will to have an adventure and some fun......and make no mistake - we are more organised than germans :wink:

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Re: Coalition-Druzhina battle agreement aka Gentelmens War
« Reply #107 on: December 14, 2013, 02:25:46 pm »
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Support to the HRE and mighty Rogue and Franke  :mrgreen:
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Re: Coalition-Druzhina battle agreement aka Gentelmens War
« Reply #108 on: December 14, 2013, 02:43:48 pm »
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1. cant say the rollcalls ever got me excited :P
2. Coalition has sat in the east for a long time doing nothing and that kind of activity kills clans, but you cant really blame just them.
3. Now just dont send 16000 kalmars at me ive got enough scandis :D

1. The first time you got accepted into a BIG battle you were chewing on your own pants - admit it  :mrgreen:
2. Yes I can - who else should I blame?
3. We hear the women in Saren are particulary nice looking and also quite willing (not that it matters) so we thought our guys should get a fair share of some of that Saren-booty. Nah, wouldnt need 16k for raping your hairy ladies in Saren Osiris - we will try and make some fun battles for us and the community (and hope to gain something out of it aswell)

Hell, even the priests from Scandinavia has joined in n this holy march
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Re: Coalition-Druzhina battle agreement aka Gentelmens War
« Reply #109 on: December 14, 2013, 02:52:07 pm »
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So, in the end, the big eastern blocks can't play strat anymore. Actually, this was probably the best way to screw over GO/DRZ ever. No battle, no fiefs, just a giant FUCK YOU, BYE!

COA wins strat, end of story.
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Re: Coalition-Druzhina battle agreement aka Gentelmens War
« Reply #110 on: December 14, 2013, 03:07:43 pm »
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Provocation succeed :mrgreen:   Prepare your anus  :twisted:

done! i just come from toalet, wash your tongue :*
btw find me on eu1 since lots of us dont care about strat and im not even in clan on strat since its anoying to check page every hour ;)
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Re: Coalition-Druzhina battle agreement aka Gentelmens War
« Reply #111 on: December 14, 2013, 03:27:32 pm »
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What a drama! *popcorn*

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Re: Coalition-Druzhina battle agreement aka Gentelmens War
« Reply #112 on: December 14, 2013, 03:38:02 pm »
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wat
Don't.

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Re: Coalition-Druzhina battle agreement aka Gentelmens War
« Reply #113 on: December 14, 2013, 04:22:49 pm »
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I'm completely behind the decisions made by Rogue and Segd in this matter. The fact that people COMPLAINED about us making fun battles for experience for all the players boggles my mind.

First you complain for over half a year that COA isn't active enough, then when we finally decide to do something about our tickets just sitting in our fiefs in a way that favours not only DRZ and COA but everyone who wanted to join in, you still COMPLAIN. There are many reasons why we would quit strategus, but apparently this bullshit you pulled now was the final straw to break the camel's back.
The idea to quit strategus isn't exactly a new idea to coalition. The fact that you get roflstomped by huge alliances for almost 3 years, getting backstabbed by your own, isn't something that makes you want to keep playing this game. It's true, this time we did a lot better, but in the end the numbers are still in favour of our enemies for the same damn reasons they were in the last strat rounds. The idea of taking all our tickets and gold to NA to stir some shit up over there would probably have been the best solution, because no matter what COA does on EU, it's all bullshit EVEN IF YOU GET FREE XP. At least NA has better drama than EU.

You gotta blame this on yourself, GO. Couldn't just be happy with us making xp-battles. Poor suckers =P

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Re: Coalition-Druzhina battle agreement aka Gentelmens War
« Reply #114 on: December 14, 2013, 04:35:30 pm »
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Wow you sure have a very efficient way to convince other people of your viewpoint Harpag & Erasmas, with your random flaming and insulting.

We contemplated leaving Strat for a long time now. Ever since the onset of the "Great Inactivity" during the summer month we have been in steady decline. All the resources in the world won't do you much good if you have no one left to move armies or do any other kind of work in Strat. Covering our fiefs with at least semi-inactive, partially reachable guys was a challenge. In the end the sole soul still moving on the map and doing stuff was Nikdoin. Some fresh blood tried to rise, were tutored and groomed and inevitably burned out, some really fast. The main burden of work, for over a year, was carried by the same few guys, whose main motivation was to keep on going since so much work has already been invested.

With that background an exit plan was devised. The options we had were rather simple: roll over and go inactive and let our enemies take all our stuff for free, like Mercs and Templars did. We wanted to avoid that, until we decide to go we wanted to resist as best as we can, which we did quite well. Give all our stuff away to friends, there was basically no one left. We considered moving it to NA and giving it to FCC, but with so few guys, so much stuff and later so many enemies walking around this was not really feasible. In the end we decided on erasing everything we have and just disappear. This plan was to set in motion once even the most hardcore guys finally had enough.

After around one month of brutal fighting our foes ceased to attack, we can't blame them for that. Attacking the same fucking place 10+ times in a row with still flowing reinforcements and a basically unlimited enemy stockpile, it gets boring and frustrating. We call that the Uxkhal syndrome. It is more a flaw in the game than a lack of resolve in the factions.
About a month after even our most eager foes ceased to attack us the idea was born to turn at least some of our resources into XP, converting everything would probably too long. We offered this option to DRZ, GO and Shu Han. GO wanted to kill us in the classic way and even told us what they wanted to try next, dance with our cities. I can respect that, although we are not here to provide the antagonist for what they consider the most fun for them. Shu Han thought we are afraid, but they are rather silly anyway. DRZ eagerly accepted our proposal and after initial fights plans were hatched to enlarge and speed up the process, enhanced by plans to just fight ourselves for XP. Lack of our most valuable resource, active strat players, and pressing needs poor Nikodin had to attend delayed all this.

Then came the expected GO assault on our cities and what we expected to be an almost untakeable fortress turned out to be a craphole with really bad flag distribution. The prospect of fighting a 2-3 hour battle at least a week or more, where the primary strategy consists of a dance around the respawn timer was the final nail in the coffin. The remaining active Strat leaders, Nikodin, Dark and me decided it is time to quit. Instead of going with the origjnal old plan we offered some our stuff to DRZ to turn into XP. They have proven to be our most relaxed adversaries, with Segd and Vovka being cool guys and their proven utter trustworthiness (we let them spawncap one of our castles to save their tickets), this was logical choice. Segd suggested to go way beyond what we had in mind and to give them basically all we had. We agreed.

Unfortunately not being a die-hard hatemonger and taking stuff from an opponent who wishes to leave anyway is treason for some people. At first I thought Segd was making a joke when he told me about it the next day. I still can't wrap my head around why someone could think like this. Cold war much?

It is a testament to Segds integrity that he even handed all the stuff back, which we immediately submitted to the old exit plan. The fires burned hot. Respeccing was not even part of that plan, until you whined so eloquently about it, not that it matters anyway. All fiefs will be taken over until the seven days are up. This was a mute point to begin with, but hey at least you get worked up about it enough to spew more nonsense and random insults.

Another point worth adressing: giving everything to smaller factions. We could have tried that true. But first of all we would not just hand our resources over to anyone, first choice would have been friends like FCC & Bros. Logistical problems ruled out NA and Bros didn't even want Tulga with everything inside. Individually handing it out to smaller guys is way too much of a hassle and would take too long to be feasible. Once it became obvious what we were up to it was likely we would get attacked to claim a piece of the cake. Fighting more battles was something we wanted to avoid. It's not like anyone is entitled to our stuff anyway and we already tried leaving it all behind to be turned into XP.

All the guessing about the inner workings of our faction is silly. Fancy theories but nothing more and it is easy to parade the flag of activity for people who barely played a third of the round in a position of responsibility. This strat round is just way too long with next to no support for bugs, imbalances and glitches. It should have ended 5-6 month ago with the onset of the great inactivity.

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Re: Coalition-Druzhina battle agreement aka Gentelmens War
« Reply #115 on: December 14, 2013, 04:39:47 pm »
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I'm completely behind the decisions made by Rogue and Segd in this matter. The fact that people COMPLAINED about us making fun battles for experience for all the players boggles my mind.

First you complain for over half a year that COA isn't active enough, then when we finally decide to do something about our tickets just sitting in our fiefs in a way that favours not only DRZ and COA but everyone who wanted to join in, you still COMPLAIN. There are many reasons why we would quit strategus, but apparently this bullshit you pulled now was the final straw to break the camel's back.
The idea to quit strategus isn't exactly a new idea to coalition. The fact that you get roflstomped by huge alliances for almost 3 years, getting backstabbed by your own, isn't something that makes you want to keep playing this game. It's true, this time we did a lot better, but in the end the numbers are still in favour of our enemies for the same damn reasons they were in the last strat rounds. The idea of taking all our tickets and gold to NA to stir some shit up over there would probably have been the best solution, because no matter what COA does on EU, it's all bullshit EVEN IF YOU GET FREE XP. At least NA has better drama than EU.

You gotta blame this on yourself, GO. Couldn't just be happy with us making xp-battles. Poor suckers =P
Maybe the people don't just want free exp, maybe they want war, drama and epic battles, not just running around in plate and random spam a flamberge. That's at least what I play strat for
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Re: Coalition-Druzhina battle agreement aka Gentelmens War
« Reply #116 on: December 14, 2013, 04:42:39 pm »
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Things like this should actually motivate the DEVS to release a new patch with some major changes to both c-rpg and strat.

Come on dudes, the mod is really dying this time and you simply don`t give a fuck.
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Re: Coalition-Druzhina battle agreement aka Gentelmens War
« Reply #117 on: December 14, 2013, 04:47:48 pm »
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Things like this should actually motivate the DEVS to release a new patch with some major changes to both c-rpg and strat.

Come on dudes, the mod is really dying this time and you simply don`t give a fuck.
If they don't do anything very soon I vote for Panos to become the new crpg master dev, he atleast care about the mod
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Re: Coalition-Druzhina battle agreement aka Gentelmens War
« Reply #118 on: December 14, 2013, 04:57:31 pm »
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All the guessing about the inner workings of our faction is silly. Fancy theories but nothing more and it is easy to parade the flag of activity for people who barely played a third of the round in a position of responsibility.

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Guess thats me, not sure though since you arent clear but it fits kinda the things I wrote - ur right I dont know what its like to have a position of responsability for a longer period (in strat) - and I never will - I will let go long before I get burned out, loose interesst or energy to lead. Easy to say, perhaps harder to do - but I know when to call it quits.

Its a game, you made ur choice and Im fine with it - lets move on.....WAR ANYONE??  8-)
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Re: Coalition-Druzhina battle agreement aka Gentelmens War
« Reply #119 on: December 14, 2013, 05:04:37 pm »
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Rogue (and dear HRE in general), I totally understand your point of view. It is a good explanation, and I buy it. I respect you want to quit - do it if that is your choice.

My personal opinion is that this whole story with Segd did not turn out well, and should end differently. As far as I do not like the idea of XP battles (for reasons I will explain later), it aimed in civilized resolution of your exit. Fine by me. 

I only appeal to your decency. Do not burn the fiefs. Do not respec them . You wish to exit, fine. But someone may want to take over the abandoned locations. If you burn them they will be unusable for a long time. And contrary to what some of you may think (hello, no_rules), we want someone to take them over in good shape - to grow there, become strong and powerful, so that we can have another war. Real war, not phony themed battle.
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