I slash twice and then whooom slow motion is initiated, shit is about to get ‘cinematic’. A button prompt hovers elusively above the sword I’m about to drive into the throat of my enemy… argh I’m too slow! The prompt flickers, disappears.
I missed it. Damn.
But then somehow, for some reason, I still complete the cinematic ‘kill’.
What?
Maybe it’s a bug I think, but no. Next time I deliberately press the wrong button. The kill goes ahead, no consequences. Then I try hitting no buttons whatsoever. The kill goes ahead. I put the controller on the table in front of me, the kill goes ahead.
What is going on here?
I ask one of the Crytek people hovering at the booth – is this a bug? Why am I completing kills when I hit the wrong button prompt? Or, worse, no button at all. Turns out it was a deliberate design choice.
“We don’t want the player to feel frustrated,” I am told.
Also a serious case of assassin's creed guard mob syndrome, when you have all the enemies attacking you in turns.
As someone who plays primarily on consoles, I say you can all take your PC elitist bullshit and fuck yourselves.Nerdrage.
Stop pirating games and bashing other platforms, maybe you'll get the love, attention and popularity you desire.
Excuse me but what are the plusses of owning a console? Besides getting to sit on a couch? No im serius, I have never heard of any legit plusses besides getting to play some exclusives?
As someone who plays primarily on consoles, I say you can all take your PC elitist bullshit and fuck yourselves.
Stop pirating games and bashing other platforms, maybe you'll get the love, attention and popularity you desire.
On the long run consoles aren't cheaper, what you lose when buying a new pc you get back by not buying games full price.
When I've heard the thing with "lay down controller, complete game anyway", I thought this can't be real.
Now I think it's a clever cynical criticism on where the gaming industry is headed.
I mean think about it. You are a game developing company and see how games get dumbed down around you. As a result, you say "let's show them where this will lead", take the shortcut to the end, and create a game where you take every kind of influence out. It's the most subtle criticism ever.
Genious!
Who can beat the game fastest without touching your joypadNo interaction makes it a movie...
Edit: I'd rather they'd make this a movie. :rolleyes:
No interaction makes it a movie...
- cheaper- not at all always.
- not worrying about specs
- mostly idiotproof/casual friendly
As someone who plays primarily on consoles, I say you can all take your PC elitist bullshit and fuck yourselves.
Stop pirating games and bashing other platforms, maybe you'll get the love, attention and popularity you desire.
- I dont know what are these specs you speak of. Havent checked any specs of any game in a loooooong time now. Bought some slightly over the average PC 4 years ago. Plays everything, mybe not on very high anymore, but in high sure thing. I see no problem here. Same for bunch of other people I know.
When I've heard the thing with "lay down controller, complete game anyway", I thought this can't be real.I lol'd.
Now I think it's a clever cynical criticism on where the gaming industry is headed.
I mean think about it. You are a game developing company and see how games get dumbed down around you. As a result, you say "let's show them where this will lead", take the shortcut to the end, and create a game where you take every kind of influence out. It's the most subtle criticism ever.
Genious!
The first impression of the previews I saw were like "OMG That looks fucking awesome" and then I realized everything is a button press and then an event happens...no thank you, I prefer to play my video games.How come I seem to agree with you with pretty much everything besides balance and whether or not you're a shitbird?
Cuz I'm a cool guy with reasonable opinions based somewhat on logic, mainly on "truthiness" and dat gut feelingColbert is hot <3, could totally do him.
On the long run consoles aren't cheaper, what you lose when buying a new pc you get back by not buying games full price.
- I dont know what are these specs you speak of. Havent checked any specs of any game in a loooooong time now. Bought some slightly over the average PC 4 years ago. Plays everything, mybe not on very high anymore, but in high sure thing. I see no problem here. Same for bunch of other people I know.
Second, don't blame consoles, blame the new generation of gamers, we have kids younger than ever playing games like call of duty, devs are dumbing down games to suite this wide audience of well, dumb players.
But alas this is down to the devs themselves and companies that just want the big bucks, not to make good games. I personally blame the companies for producing those gamers, not the other way around. The console wars really brought on that market. That new generation of gamers wouldn't be there if they hadn't been fed an IV drip of mindless addictive games on consoles for so many years.
Meh I don't really see the problem with catering for young people with games. We were all 10 once.
Not only 10 year olds enjoy playing dumb and easy games. It wouldn't surprise me the average executive doesn't want to play a stressful game. Besides, you still have games 100% suitable for kids that are sometimes incredibly hard.
Just looks like another generic button flicker console game with slow motion and gore... The animations look like shit and don't flow at all. Also what the fuck is up with the armour? It looks so shiny and modern.
I probably would of loved this game when I was 10 because at 10 I was playing Spartan: Total Warrior.
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Just looks like another generic button flicker console game with slow motion and gore... The animations look like shit and don't flow at all. Also what the fuck is up with the armour? It looks so shiny and modern.
I probably would of loved this game when I was 10 because at 10 I was playing Spartan: Total Warrior.
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I seriuslly hate the movie and gameindustry for overusing Sparta for everything. Im pretty sure the name itself is already close to getting bought by Pepsi or McDonalds or something. Thats what happens when the entertainmentindustries rape something for some good amount of time. The thing they rape looses seriusness and a soul in the process.
Eh, do you honestly think historical fidelity ever once entered the minds of the people making this "game"? It's just going to be a Rome=USA, Call of Duty propaganda entirely performed through QTE's. Pretty much the same way 300 turned Spartans into macho American parodies, crying about freedom and liberty and fighting against tyranny, when they were actually some of the most disgusting slavers and eugenicists of the ancient world. Fascist social darwinians before the words ever existed.
Eh, do you honestly think historical fidelity ever once entered the minds of the people making this "game"? It's just going to be a Rome=USA, Call of Duty propaganda entirely performed through QTE's. Pretty much the same way 300 turned Spartans into macho American parodies, crying about freedom and liberty and fighting against tyranny, when they were actually some of the most disgusting slavers and eugenicists of the ancient world. Fascist social darwinians before the words ever existed.
Aye. The murican spartanshit is seriuslly getting on my tits aswell. I wounder why in these spartan movies they didnt explain exactly why where the Spartans so well trained compared to other greeks. I quess they never dared to explain the cruel realism, in fear of we suddenly not rooting for them. Whoever states that it was to keep their freedum deserves to be beaten to death with a historytextbook.FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Mel Gibson the fucking scotsman would be proud. :lol:
Mel Gibson the fucking scotsman would be proud. :lol:
they were actually some of the most disgusting slavers and eugenicists of the ancient world. Fascist social darwinians before the words ever existed.
Pretty much the single most grating line in a movie EVER.The Patriot was a really shitty piece of ahistorical shit, amazing how they can take some war and just shit all over it and call it a movie, just like pretty much any movie Mel Gibson would act in, also fuck the Scottish, Englishmen are the best Euros, and Americans are the Englishmen who got sent off to the new world for being genetically superior.
If there was a film that could single handedly point out how horrible innacurate Hollywood could make a historical film...that would be it. O and The Patriot.
Yeah yeah it's not just cause I'm biased about the English getting raped in films.
Americans are the Englishmen who got sent off to the new world for being expendable, extremist religious nutbags.
The Patriot was a really shitty piece of ahistorical shit, amazing how they can take some war and just shit all over it and call it a movie, just like pretty much any movie Mel Gibson would act in
Also, who would they be attacking I am wondering. I don't know much Roman History, but I thought the "barbarian" tribes were using wood forts. Those axe guys also don't look too Greek / Carthaginian... but then again I didn't look too closely.
This is a fantasy setting. Noone cares. I'm dissapoint, sort of, by not seeing double-bitted axes in there.
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Are you one of those people that think 300 isn't fantasy either because it has Spartans and they didn't ad it as fantasy?
Pretty much the same way 300 turned Spartans into macho American parodies, crying about freedom and liberty and fighting against tyranny, when they were actually some of the most disgusting slavers and eugenicists of the ancient world.
Are you one of those people that think 300 isn't fantasy either because it has Spartans and they didn't ad it as fantasy?
NPR: […] Frank, what’s the state of the union?
FM: Well, I don’t really find myself worrying about the state of the union as I do the state of the home-front. It seems to me quite obvious that our country and the entire Western World is up against an existential foe that knows exactly what it wants … and we’re behaving like a collapsing empire. Mighty cultures are almost never conquered, they crumble from within. And frankly, I think that a lot of Americans are acting like spoiled brats because of everything that isn’t working out perfectly every time.
NPR: Um, and when you say we don’t know what we want, what’s the cause of that do you think?
FM: Well, I think part of that is how we’re educated. We’re constantly told all cultures are equal, and every belief system is as good as the next. And generally that America was to be known for its flaws rather than its virtues. When you think about what Americans accomplished, building these amazing cities, and all the good its done in the world, it’s kind of disheartening to hear so much hatred of America, not just from abroad, but internally.
NPR: A lot of people would say what America has done abroad has led to the doubts and even the hatred of its own citizens.
FM: Well, okay, then let’s finally talk about the enemy. For some reason, nobody seems to be talking about who we’re up against, and the sixth century barbarism that they actually represent. These people saw people’s heads off. They enslave women, they genitally mutilate their daughters, they do not behave by any cultural norms that are sensible to us. I’m speaking into a microphone that never could have been a product of their culture, and I’m living in a city where three thousand of my neighbors were killed by thieves of airplanes they never could have built.
NPR: As you look at people around you, though, why do you think they’re so, as you would put it, self-absorbed, even whiny?
FM: Well, I’d say it’s for the same reason the Athenians and Romans were. We’ve got it a little good right now. Where I would fault President Bush the most, was that in the wake of 9/11, he motivated our military, but he didn’t call the nation into a state of war. He didn’t explain that this would take a communal effort against a common foe. So we’ve been kind of fighting a war on the side, and sitting off like a bunch of Romans complaining about it. Also, I think that George Bush has an uncanny knack of being someone people hate. I thought Clinton inspired more hatred than any President I had ever seen, but I’ve never seen anything like Bush-hatred. It’s completely mad.
NPR: And as you talk to people in the streets, the people you meet at work, socially, how do you explain this to them?
FM: Mainly in historical terms, mainly saying that the country that fought Okinawa and Iwo Jima is now spilling precious blood, but so little by comparison, it’s almost ridiculous. And the stakes are as high as they were then. Mostly I hear people say, ‘Why did we attack Iraq?’ for instance. Well, we’re taking on an idea. Nobody questions why after Pearl Harbor we attacked chocolate chip cookie Germany. It was because we were taking on a form of global fascism, we’re doing the same thing now.
NPR: Well, they did declare war on us, but…
FM: Well, so did Iraq.
Of course he believes it. He's an objectivist Randian nutbag. They are a dime a dozen in the US. "Libertarians", although that encompasses a wide spectrum, this shitbag falls somewhere in the extreme. It's not exactly hard to see how these beliefs informed his..."interpretation" of the Battle of Thermopylae.
Eh, do you honestly think historical fidelity ever once entered the minds of the people making this "game"? It's just going to be a Rome=USA, Call of Duty propaganda entirely performed through QTE's. Pretty much the same way 300 turned Spartans into macho American parodies, crying about freedom and liberty and fighting against tyranny, when they were actually some of the most disgusting slavers and eugenicists of the ancient world. Fascist social darwinians before the words ever existed.
His interpretation of themorpylae has much more to do with neo-conservatism than objectivism. Neocons that claim to be objectivists didn't understand a thing.
I love Sin City and looking forward to Sin City 2 in August, but intellectually, Frank Miller is a fucking moron.
Rejoice! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leXo4-QLNVc)
still an entertaining and visually stylish display of proper cinema violence.
The problem with objectivism is, ironically, how subjective it ultimately is. What one "objectivist" considers the plain unvarnished truth another might completely disagree with. And that would be totally consistent within the philosophy. It's the respect for individuality inherent in liberal mores taken to ridiculous extremes. If you have a consistent, ethical system, based on more than just self-interest, it can be a benign or even beneficial philosophy, spurring you to greater ambition. If you are a giant entitled douchebag, then it's just a free pass to act that way and pretend it's a moral choice, or even that you're somehow doing the world a favour. It's the ultimate philosophy for assholes who think the entire world revolves around them, and that they are part of some enlightened and worthwhile elite, while the unwashed masses are nothing but ungrateful parasites. When you see the world that way, practically anything you do to these people doesn't seem like a crime.
This might be a Godwin but I sincerely don't see much difference from the basic tenets of the philosophy and something like chocolate chip cookie fascism. The one big difference is that despite the rest of her abhorent beliefs Rand never had much truck with racist bullshit. She at least believed that the ubermensch class who deserved to rule by virtue of their obvious superiority (from an "objectivist" perspective, i.e because I think so) could come from any race. She usually had other factors in mind, the largest being wealth.
Because who better to rule over others than someone out to make as much money for themselves as possible. It's not like that's pretty much what a lot of politics already is, and always has been. Truly revolutionary. Let's have the oligarchs in charge! Because that's never happened before.
Triumph of the Will, best movie ever. It revolutionized film making after all. So many new techniques. Stylish and entertaining. The theme and purpose are totally secondary and not worth any consideration whatsoever. Who cares about the OBVIOUS fucking message the director is trying to hammer through our heads. Everyone knows the medium of film can never seriously be used to transmit values and ideas. We're just retarded, passive observers, absorbing the "fun" parts like some sort of spineless, gelatinous amoeba. Oooh look pretty colours and shapes! Hahaha, clap clap clap, moar, moar! Yup, no such thing as propaganda in movies.Well, some half naked dudes using shield and spears fighting ogres and ninjas has obviously a direct connection to the world we life in today. No way a normal human being can differ between reality and fiction there.
That their way of life was horrible, no question.What was horrible about it?
Well, arguably that's exactly what the spartans did though. They defended their freedom (i.e. not having to bow down to a foreign power or worse, pay taxes) and their way of life. That their way of life was horrible, no question. But freedom and such aside, this are just words with many meanings. I am not quite sure that a rightwing American means "I hope that every person on the planet has the chance to decide himself what he is going to do with his life" when he says freedom. Explain the difference between slavery and people working under horrible conditions with hardly enough to get by and no real chance to get out. Which many right-wing Americans apparently have no problem with. One could make a longer list.
But in the end the thing is, maybe there's actually quite a few values that are actually important to the American Right in real ancient Sparta (more than in say ancient Athens). They were quite gay and pedophile apparently, which is unfortunate, but we have the artistic freedom of taking it out, since it does only distract people from understanding our message about how people awesomely fought for defending their way of life. There's also the crippled guy iirc, which is not accepted by them. This could be perhaps him working in the eugenics stuff, but then the cripple is also portrayed as corrupted ... some viewers might actually sympathize with that view.
I'm not saying the movie was good, it was fairly bad actually because 90% of the screentime was reserved for halfnaked men and halfnaked women barely showed up. Just wanted to rant.
TLDR: The shocking is maybe not that he has a completely flawed understanding about a culture with horrible values. It is that he (openly, secretly or subconsciously) agrees to a lot of those values.
Aye. The murican spartanshit is seriuslly getting on my tits aswell. I wounder why in these spartan movies they didnt explain exactly why where the Spartans so well trained compared to other greeks. I quess they never dared to explain the cruel realism, in fear of we suddenly not rooting for them. Whoever states that it was to keep their freedum deserves to be beaten to death with a historytextbook.
I mean, Al Qaeda did 9/11 for the freedom of islamic radicalism.
What was horrible about it?
By that logic, virtually any person or group of people claiming having a right on anything can "defend" a piece of land as small as they want (or just an idea) by killing any number of other people, and do it for freedom.
I mean, Al Qaeda did 9/11 for the freedom of islamic radicalism.
Slavery + Killing their slaves preemptively.Sounds good to me, except for the beans part. Fuck beans.
Sacrificing a lot that enhances life (luxury, art, science and personal freedom of even the ruling class) for the military.
Killing their children, when they weren't fit for war.
And also, they ate beans.
Sounds good to me, except for the beans part. Fuck beans.
Also, have you TRIED baked beans in ketchup on buttered toast? maybe with some cheese melted on top and sprinkled with blackpepper? Its like....well it IS the food of teh gods!
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