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Title: Char recalculation
Post by: chadz on May 05, 2011, 07:52:57 pm
Hi, it's me.

Just dropping in to announce that all generations were recalculated.

This means that we calculated the bonus back with 10% and recalculated the new generation with 3%.

all heirlooms were reset, good news for the selling-happy-people: heirlooms were recalculated on generation.

This means you now have generation-1 heirloom points.

I'll try and get the heirloom distribution code on today so you can bring your items back.

Have fun.

edit: also, some of you got extra xp. that's normal when you would have ended up on, say, generation 10.5, so you would get 0.5 xp requirement as a bonus.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Keshian on May 05, 2011, 07:55:22 pm
This sounds awesome.  Thank you chadz.   :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: chadz on May 05, 2011, 07:56:19 pm
also, don't forget: there are still some missing items, they will be back soon.

if you want to re-heirloom those, wait a few days with distributing.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Furax on May 05, 2011, 07:56:50 pm
I lost 2 generations, any reason why?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Jarlek on May 05, 2011, 07:57:22 pm
yay!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Lizard_man on May 05, 2011, 07:57:38 pm
well, this is fine, i thought my looms were gone for good...
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Camaris on May 05, 2011, 07:57:49 pm
To be honest chadz i never thought of that solution and i have to say: it is totally fair.
Thank you for that solution i appreciate your work.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Sammael on May 05, 2011, 07:58:33 pm
I lost 2 generations, any reason why?

This means that we calculated the bonus back with 10% and recalculated the new generation with 3%.

Probably this.

Good news! Thank you chadz!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: kinngrimm on May 05, 2011, 08:01:42 pm
i lost 10 generations 0_0
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Rashale on May 05, 2011, 08:02:23 pm
This is awesome chadz. Thank you very much
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Tor! on May 05, 2011, 08:03:55 pm
This was a good way to solve things imo. Well done  :D
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Tzar on May 05, 2011, 08:05:20 pm
all my looms is gone  :cry:

and im gen 0 ??
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: nuffen on May 05, 2011, 08:06:02 pm
all my looms is gone  :cry:

and im gen 0 ??

Read the post.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on May 05, 2011, 08:06:41 pm
I just retired when the reset came, because I didn't know that there was a reset. Now I chose an heirloom, will that stay or will it vanish when we get the heirloom points to chose?^^
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Lotr_III on May 05, 2011, 08:07:16 pm
Sorry have 1 problem all my Heirloom Arbalest and Steel Bolts disapperet
I have Well Made Steel Bolts and Masterworks Arbalest
Now I see that i got 31 go on Retirement and ones again  heirloom Arbalest to Well Made Arbalest
please gime me back at least Masterworks Arbalest and give one Retirement to increase my bolts
Sorry my bad English
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Dravic on May 05, 2011, 08:07:37 pm
A little guide how to distribute your heirlooming points again would be helpful.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Murchad on May 05, 2011, 08:09:33 pm
I lost 13gens and i have to say i'm thrilled, very good way of doing this.
One problem though, i have more exp than i need to retire and it still says level 30 so i don't get gen bonus.        I'm sure that will get worked out though.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Nihtgenga on May 05, 2011, 08:09:55 pm
Why dont you people just read the post?
Its all in there
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: chadz on May 05, 2011, 08:10:53 pm
if you have too much xp for your level, join a server for one tick, then it should be correct.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: MadJackMcMad on May 05, 2011, 08:15:06 pm
Apologies for being dense, but how does one redistributed heirlooms without retiring?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: MrShine on May 05, 2011, 08:16:04 pm
This actually works perfectly (for me): I was level 29 on my archer itching to respect back to melee, and bam I've now lost a gen but gained like 4 million xp and am like 500k to level 31. 

Now I need to strongly consider my heirlooming options..

Seems like a decent fix in general.  Still bummed about the longer grind to 31, but at this point it doesn't seem worth it to retire anyways so whateves.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Mylet on May 05, 2011, 08:16:19 pm
Apologies for being dense, but how does one redistributed heirlooms without retiring?

I'll try and get the heirloom distribution code on today so you can bring your items back.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Ujin on May 05, 2011, 08:16:42 pm
Awesome work guys, you got it right this time =).
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Rhaegar on May 05, 2011, 08:16:57 pm
 :shock:Great chadz!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Rashale on May 05, 2011, 08:17:12 pm
Apologies for being dense, but how does one redistributed heirlooms without retiring?

Quote
I'll try and get the heirloom distribution code on today so you can bring your items back.

What part of this don't you understand?  :D
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Siiem on May 05, 2011, 08:17:21 pm
This is awesome, ty great donkey.

This certainly makes up for me loosing 7k gold on a langes messer I never saw anything of xD
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Segd on May 05, 2011, 08:17:35 pm
Nice. Lost 1 gen but get 2 more heirlooms :)
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: kinngrimm on May 05, 2011, 08:18:12 pm
if you have too much xp for your level, join a server for one tick, then it should be correct.

done that nothing changed so far

Code: [Select]
Experience11,090,372
+-2,354,529
Level up at8,735,843

also are those 2 million points added to my next generation?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: BlameMeForTheNoise on May 05, 2011, 08:18:47 pm
Awesome.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Banok on May 05, 2011, 08:20:03 pm
sounds good.

but im majorly confused about the whole exp thing, maybe it dont apply to my chars but they are all the same gen and level

I like that you took pity on us poor souls who sold our hierlooms.

Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Nihtgenga on May 05, 2011, 08:20:31 pm
done that nothing changed so far

Code: [Select]
Experience11,090,372
+-2,354,529
Level up at8,735,843

also are those 2 million points added to my next generation?

waited for a tick? had the same problem but it solved just as I did what chadz said
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 05, 2011, 08:21:23 pm
Gen-1?

I see a lot of sad Gen 2 characters! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: MadJackMcMad on May 05, 2011, 08:22:18 pm
What part of this don't you understand?  :D

The bit with the words.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Cris on May 05, 2011, 08:22:43 pm
Good job, fair fix.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Lizard_man on May 05, 2011, 08:24:01 pm
i've ended up qtr of the way to level 32, i would have been laughing if i was a low level when this happened...
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: kinngrimm on May 05, 2011, 08:24:39 pm
And there was that thing with special mystery bonus on gear. The respec didn't intervene with that?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Punisher on May 05, 2011, 08:24:53 pm
done that nothing changed so far

Code: [Select]
Experience11,090,372
+-2,354,529
Level up at8,735,843

also are those 2 million points added to my next generation?

Just wait for a XP tick and it will be fixed.

As for the recalculation, great solution, didn't expect it to be so fair.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Lotr_III on May 05, 2011, 08:28:22 pm
People you have more then 1 items on Retirement ??
I just got the 6 level after this fix and I have only 1 point Retirement on 31 so I desaided to heirloom my Arbalest  once again, I don't get any more points
Please tell me what I must to do ?  Take 31 level again to take some Retirement points or what ???
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: SuperNewb on May 05, 2011, 08:28:52 pm
Can't wait to masterwork my bullets again!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Keshian on May 05, 2011, 08:31:57 pm
Yeh, it could have been worse I figure.  Went from gen 91 to 31, but it seems fair based on a 3% bonus only never would have retired as often.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Casimir on May 05, 2011, 08:32:12 pm
i genuinely gave chadz a plus 1.

i think im ill.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: kinngrimm on May 05, 2011, 08:32:38 pm
Code: [Select]
Experience11,094,812
+6,689,994
Level up at17,784,806

i retire now and have lost about 3 million points
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Banok on May 05, 2011, 08:34:34 pm
across my alt characters ive gone from 4 gen1 hierlooms, of which only one I actually used, to 7

I only wish I hadn't deleted 1 or 2 retired alts, I have too many to keep track

sounds so much better than the last hierloom theft.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Peasant_Woman on May 05, 2011, 08:35:27 pm
I honestly expected a much harsher solution. Hail chadz!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: chaosegg on May 05, 2011, 08:40:44 pm
Hallelujah! Thanks and praise to the chadz team!
<3<3<3<3<3<3

Donation incoming soon as the missing items re-appear,
and another one when the report leecher system is fixed.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 05, 2011, 08:42:20 pm
Yeh, it could have been worse I figure.  Went from gen 91 to 31, but it seems fair based on a 3% bonus only never would have retired as often.

I was off by 17 gens, not bad...
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: chadz on May 05, 2011, 08:44:51 pm
fun fact: this time it was actually stolen by fasader for real - he created the formula.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 05, 2011, 08:46:12 pm
fun fact: this time it was actually stolen by fasader for real - he created the formula.

This absolutely made my day  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: kinngrimm on May 05, 2011, 08:48:06 pm
fun fact: this time it was actually stolen by fasader for real - he created the formula.
Fasader .. i got no words for you :)
it surly is fair, nevertheless i have to digest this
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: BlackMilk on May 05, 2011, 08:56:28 pm
Noobquestion : how to loom items?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Momo on May 05, 2011, 08:56:39 pm
Actually how does this heirloom point work? The site didn't say anything and I can choose only one item but Im gen 5 at the moment when I choose retire.

Edit: Also thank you for the chance to reuse looms, now all of the whiners are going to shut up (me too).
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Nindur on May 05, 2011, 09:00:08 pm
Be patient and read what was said, it will help avoid most of the stupid questions here.


Goodjob chadz, ATS approves.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Magikarp on May 05, 2011, 09:00:49 pm
Noobquestion : how to loom items?
I'm wondering this too, have checked every bit of the site but it doesn't show me anything. I'm gen 3, so I'm guessing I should have 2 heirloom points.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Nihtgenga on May 05, 2011, 09:01:23 pm
I'm wondering this too, have checked every bit of the site but it doesn't show me anything. I'm gen 3, so I'm guessing I should have 2 heirloom points.

learn to read more carefully
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Magikarp on May 05, 2011, 09:03:12 pm
learn to read more carefully
I read, but some people are confusing me, they make it seem like they already got their heirlooms back.

But I guess I have to wait?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Nihtgenga on May 05, 2011, 09:03:38 pm
jup
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Radix on May 05, 2011, 09:04:44 pm
is langes messer still invisible?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Magikarp on May 05, 2011, 09:06:24 pm
is langes messer still invisible?
To use his words:
jup
It's actually not even ingame anymore, probably unaccessable untill further notice.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Zoidberg on May 05, 2011, 09:07:59 pm
The answer:
I'll try and get the heirloom distribution code on today so you can bring your items back.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Radix on May 05, 2011, 09:13:23 pm
To use his words:It's actually not even ingame anymore, probably unaccessable untill further notice.

That sux a bit, as I turn 31 in 16k exp I wanted to base my new build on lnages messer... oh well. I just wait with retiring till the situation is clear and I know what Im standing on.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Overdriven on May 05, 2011, 09:15:49 pm
So why does my char have no change in xp at all? My mate who is only 1 gen above but was a similar level gained almost 2million xp. Mine shows no change in anything except heirloom reset.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Rashale on May 05, 2011, 09:19:40 pm
So why does my char have no change in xp at all? My mate who is only 1 gen above but was a similar level gained almost 2million xp. Mine shows no change in anything except heirloom reset.

Same here. I'm gen 3 and I have noticed NO change in exp what so ever
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Kocik_4th on May 05, 2011, 09:20:02 pm
Awesome
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Magikarp on May 05, 2011, 09:22:07 pm
Same here. I'm gen 3 and I have noticed NO change in exp what so ever
It's because of the new calculation of gens, at lower gens you probably won't notice a thing, but at higher ones people get figures with decimals. The extra gen, like gen 8.5, is translated into gen 8 with the added exp of a half gen.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: justme on May 05, 2011, 09:22:22 pm
i lost 9... ;(
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Overdriven on May 05, 2011, 09:24:26 pm
It's because of the new calculation of gens, at lower gens you probably won't notice a thing, but at higher ones people get figures with decimals. The extra gen, like gen 8.5, is translated into gen 8 with the added exp of a half gen.

So why does my mate who's gen 6 get 2 million extra xp when I'm gen 5 and I don't get anything? And we were the same level when the reset happened. Not really understanding the system.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Ninja_Murphy on May 05, 2011, 09:27:15 pm
To be honest chadz i never thought of that solution and i have to say: it is totally fair.
Thank you for that solution i appreciate your work.


solution... well i reckon its is not a very good timed solution, for me anyway. i hate the 30 to lvl 31 xp gap it takes soo long but i wanted to heirloom my katana so after busting my ass i finnaly reached lvl 31 and retire, then three days later WHOOPY bloody doo reset all heirlooms. at the moment all that grinding is wasted. can i atleast just have my tempered katana back iam having a shit day as it is.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Cosmos_Shielder on May 05, 2011, 09:27:53 pm
Sorry but i didn't understand very well.
Can someone can explain me on this exemple
Let's suppose i am
Generation 31
i have 10 3time heirloomed weapon.
How much the generation i already gained will give me bonus , and what about if i gain 10 more generation after this reset to be gen 41 ?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Magikarp on May 05, 2011, 09:30:05 pm
No wonder gen reset was in order, I as a casual player am glad that I kept my gen 3. Would've been pretty mad if I lost anything thanks to those lifelfess gen 40+ grinders. This has got to be the best thing of this patch yet.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Torp on May 05, 2011, 09:34:12 pm
I ahven't thought about this at all, and i think it is a very good solution.

Sorry for all the earlier raging :)
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Ganon on May 05, 2011, 09:35:52 pm
Wait i'm almost lvl32, what does that mean now.. i lost the full lvl31-32 because i have to retire ? yeah ok, i'll go grind on some other game bye
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Vicious666 on May 05, 2011, 09:37:22 pm
about   stat reset? since many items changed? can you include that?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Magikarp on May 05, 2011, 09:39:12 pm
Wait i'm almost lvl32, what does that mean now.. i lost the full lvl31-32 because i have to retire ? yeah ok, i'll go grind on some other game bye
What are you talking about? Only heirlooms are reset, there will be a screen of some kind where you can heirloom your weapons again without retiring. Just like last time, I think the message this time will be:
' Noes! Donkey chadz lost your heirlooms while moving your caravan! But using the golden coins he crapped out of his arse, you can buy an x amount of new ones!'
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Lizard_man on May 05, 2011, 09:39:32 pm
well, it's the same with me, slightly, though i've lost some heirlooms, fuck it, i'm gonna heirloom something different this time, which i think will be better, i think i'm just gonna carry on aswell, i can't be arsed retiring again, all good, i should have 9 points to make heirlooms out of, think i'll do my horse this time, thou are all doomed... :twisted:
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Keshian on May 05, 2011, 09:39:38 pm
Sorry but i didn't understand very well.
Can someone can explain me on this exemple
Let's suppose i am
Generation 31
i have 10 3time heirloomed weapon.
How much the generation i already gained will give me bonus , and what about if i gain 10 more generation after this reset to be gen 41 ?

Xp cap is 1450 so anyone gen 16 or over gets the same xp no matter what.  I actually don't plan on retiring anymore myself, its too long a grind to 31 now.


To the other person with the friend with 2 million more xp who started with 1 more gen, you might want to ask him if he is now the same gen as you?  He likely gets 2 million more xp but loses 1 more gen.

Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Zoidberg on May 05, 2011, 09:40:08 pm
about   stat reset? since many items changed? can you include that?
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,4840.msg84728.html#msg84728 (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,4840.msg84728.html#msg84728)
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Nihtgenga on May 05, 2011, 09:41:19 pm
think i'll do my horse this time, thou are all doomed... :twisted:

you go do that sir...96 pierce damage gonna crush your little pony xD
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Cosmos_Shielder on May 05, 2011, 09:46:19 pm
Xp cap is 1450 so anyone gen 16 or over gets the same xp no matter what.  I actually don't plan on retiring anymore myself, its too long a grind to 31 now.


To the other person with the friend with 2 million more xp who started with 1 more gen, you might want to ask him if he is now the same gen as you?  He likely gets 2 million more xp but loses 1 more gen.
But he didn't put back the 10% per gen ?
I don't understand this sentence :
Quote
This means that we calculated the bonus back with 10%
And i don't understand this one too : people say that they went from gen 91 to 31. That mean 30 % and not :
Quote
recalculated the new generation with 3%.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Overdriven on May 05, 2011, 09:48:49 pm
To the other person with the friend with 2 million more xp who started with 1 more gen, you might want to ask him if he is now the same gen as you?  He likely gets 2 million more xp but loses 1 more gen.

Nope he's still gen 6 and I'm still gen 5. Neither of us lost one. He just gained a load of xp for some reason.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Ganon on May 05, 2011, 10:04:55 pm
What are you talking about? Only heirlooms are reset, there will be a screen of some kind where you can heirloom your weapons again without retiring. Just like last time, I think the message this time will be:
' Noes! Donkey chadz lost your heirlooms while moving your caravan! But using the golden coins he crapped out of his arse, you can buy an x amount of new ones!'

Heirlooms are being reduced again, and i don't have the will to grind again in this game. If i can logon with my character from time to time and play, that's ok, if i can't and have to rebuild some lost heirlooms, it's not, i don't want to grind 3 times on the same game and the same character.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: VVarlord on May 05, 2011, 10:07:26 pm
Now chadz if you just brought strategus back i think you would get lots of + lots of cookies and lot of donations!

Nice idea that seems to have pleased everyone and given you the best result.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: mulas on May 05, 2011, 10:08:37 pm
Yeh, it could have been worse I figure.  Went from gen 91 to 31, but it seems fair based on a 3% bonus only never would have retired as often.

WTF, gen 91??? I played so much and only 3..... with 0 master work weapons.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Keshian on May 05, 2011, 10:09:29 pm
But he didn't put back the 10% per gen ?
I don't understand this sentence : And i don't understand this one too : people say that they went from gen 91 to 31. That mean 30 % and not :

Nothing has been said about the xp cap being removed, so as far as I know the max is still 1450 at x1.  If anyone has heard differently, would appreciate the news.

Imagine you only got 1.03x xp at gen 2 instead of 1.1x and 1.06 at gen 3 instead of 1.20x, so if from when you satrted you only got the 3% xp bonus how many times would you really have been able to retire?  So the lower your gen, the less you are hurt as the difference is less.  The higher the gen the higer percentage of gens you lost because your xp was so different, so i lost 67% of my generations, while someone gen 5 might still be gen 5.

Quote from: Overdriven on Today at 18:48:49
Nope he's still gen 6 and I'm still gen 5. Neither of us lost one. He just gained a load of xp for some reason.


That one I have no idea how that worked out.  Your friend got really lucky, be happy for him, i don't know??

Quote: WTF, gen 91??? I played so much and only 3..... with 0 master work weapons.

trust me, i've played a lot more than you.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: AzureSkys on May 05, 2011, 10:18:46 pm
I'm gen 4 and still gen 4, no difference here. Disappointed, though. At first I thought it said x.10 was returned and recalculated for when x.03 was implemented to REDUCE grind.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: mulas on May 05, 2011, 10:23:46 pm
Nothing has been said about the xp cap being removed, so as far as I know the max is still 1450 at x1.  If anyone has heard differently, would appreciate the news.

Imagine you only got 1.03x xp at gen 2 instead of 1.1x and 1.06 at gen 3 instead of 1.20x, so if from when you satrted you only got the 3% xp bonus how many times would you really have been able to retire?  So the lower your gen, the less you are hurt as the difference is less.  The higher the gen the higer percentage of gens you lost because your xp was so different, so i lost 67% of my generations, while someone gen 5 might still be gen 5.

Quote from: Overdriven on Today at 18:48:49
Nope he's still gen 6 and I'm still gen 5. Neither of us lost one. He just gained a load of xp for some reason.


That one I have no idea how that worked out.  Your friend got really lucky, be happy for him, i don't know??

Quote: WTF, gen 91??? I played so much and only 3..... with 0 master work weapons.

trust me, i've played a lot more than you.

You still get to keep all your heir loom points for redistribution right? So you still have an armory of leet stuff, not to shabby.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Keshian on May 05, 2011, 10:29:24 pm
You still get to keep all your heir loom points for redistribution right? So you still have an armory of leet stuff, not to shabby.

I lost 67% of my heirlooms.  Most low gens are roughly the same number with respec or lost 1-2, so while its nice to have heirlooms I lost both a much higher absolute number and relative percentage of heirlooms.  Honestly its rather fair theft overall where the higher your generation the more you lose.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: RagnarLodbroke on May 05, 2011, 10:38:15 pm
got 1 question....im gen 3 atm, im prolly gonna reach lvl 31 today( only 200 k left)  when i retire am i still gen 3? or do i reach gen 4?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Polobow on May 05, 2011, 10:38:29 pm
Make sure you add the torch back. I miss him, poor soul.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Zergmar on May 05, 2011, 10:40:55 pm
Fucking awesome news Sir chadz!

Lost only 1 generation
Being a noob equals SUCCESS!

Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Teak on May 05, 2011, 10:43:08 pm
HUZZA.
Thank you mighty donkeys
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Meow on May 05, 2011, 11:03:09 pm
So what we all learned from this is: use the most op weapon as long as possible.

After it's nerf you just wait a week and take the next best op weapon with your free redistributable heirloom points :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Senni__Ti on May 05, 2011, 11:08:45 pm
I like this lesson :D
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Blondin on May 05, 2011, 11:09:15 pm
This is may be the first time that all (or almost) the players are happy with the change, great work.

a special +1 for Kesh, you lost 60 gen and you find it fair, awesome.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: ToxicKilla on May 05, 2011, 11:10:49 pm
So when and how do we reclaim these heirlooms? Or do we? I am confuse....

Also, quite a good idea, since we get to re-distribute them :)
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Siiem on May 05, 2011, 11:19:53 pm
So what we all learned from this is: use the most op weapon as long as possible.

After it's nerf you just wait a week and take the next best op weapon with your free redistributable heirloom points :mrgreen:

Maybe a timeslot, when you pick your first heirloom you have 2 days to spend the rest of your points or fasader eats them.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Uhtred_III_of_Bebbanburg on May 05, 2011, 11:24:22 pm
good news for the selling-happy-people

Yeah.. that's me ;)

Thanks a lot! =))
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Spawny on May 05, 2011, 11:25:16 pm
I have 1 problem with this solution:

Experience13,291,197
+-4,555,354
Level up at8,735,843

Why is this a problem? Well, this gen I decided to do a "fun" build and went full crossbow wpf just to see how it was like before bitching about it.

Unfortunatly for me, it took me over 3 weeks to get to level 30 and then the patch/exp nerf hit. Didn't get to level 31 in time and now I'm stuck at level 31, halfway to 32 with a shit build.

If I had retired yesterday (just 700k left at the time) I would've had the same amount of heirlooms, but would've been close to level 30 with my new build.

On the other hand, since I retired just 2 times after the patch and I was gen 9, I had only 4 heirlooms (nasty heirloom theft). Now I'm recalculated to Gen 7, which gives me 6 heirlooms and I have to retire anyway for a 7th heirloom.
I just REALLY hope I can heirloom stuff I can't use with the points given to us, since I've played 8 out of 9 gens as a shielder and I want to heirloom a shield.

Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: OzyTheSage on May 05, 2011, 11:25:49 pm
Interesting. it says I'm generation 6. I don't remember what generation I was, but I am pretty sure I didn't really lose any generations, and if that's the case, I'll have the same amount of heirlooms as before... actually.. I'll have... 1 more heirloom? o_O

Something's odd.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: MountedRhader on May 05, 2011, 11:36:10 pm
Yeah.. We are getting our looms back, right? :shock:
I don't so much mind the xp modifiers, but I love my looms
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on May 05, 2011, 11:38:12 pm
not all people have lost generations. depends on the gen you've been
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: VVarlord on May 05, 2011, 11:40:28 pm
Yeah.. We are getting our looms back, right? :shock:
I don't so much mind the xp modifiers, but I love my looms

Tbh im getting same if not better k:d atm with out my looms suppose others are alot more dependent on them than i am.

Very happy but was glad either way, at least now other things can be worked on.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Keshian on May 05, 2011, 11:41:30 pm
I have 1 problem with this solution:

Experience13,291,197
+-4,555,354
Level up at8,735,843

Why is this a problem? Well, this gen I decided to do a "fun" build and went full crossbow wpf just to see how it was like before bitching about it.

Unfortunatly for me, it took me over 3 weeks to get to level 30 and then the patch/exp nerf hit. Didn't get to level 31 in time and now I'm stuck at level 31, halfway to 32 with a shit build.

If I had retired yesterday (just 700k left at the time) I would've had the same amount of heirlooms, but would've been close to level 30 with my new build.

On the other hand, since I retired just 2 times after the patch and I was gen 9, I had only 4 heirlooms (nasty heirloom theft). Now I'm recalculated to Gen 7, which gives me 6 heirlooms and I have to retire anyway for a 7th heirloom.
I just REALLY hope I can heirloom stuff I can't use with the points given to us, since I've played 8 out of 9 gens as a shielder and I want to heirloom a shield.

If you can't do it without the requirement try waiting to assign heirloom points until you do your shielder build?

Quote: 
Interesting. it says I'm generation 6. I don't remember what generation I was, but I am pretty sure I didn't really lose any generations, and if that's the case, I'll have the same amount of heirlooms as before... actually.. I'll have... 1 more heirloom? o_O

Something's odd.

Its because you lost heirlooms in the January theft, but you got them back essentially with this one because your heirlooms are based on your generation.  Also you got back the ones you sold.


By the way, thanks blondin for the +1 :)
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Tzar on May 05, 2011, 11:45:46 pm
So what we all learned from this is: use the most op weapon as long as possible.

After it's nerf you just wait a week and take the next best op weapon with your free redistributable heirloom points :mrgreen:

QFT.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Korgoth on May 05, 2011, 11:51:21 pm
Wait so is the bonus going back to 10% or staying at 3%? I still abit confused :/
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Meow on May 05, 2011, 11:55:16 pm
nah all gens got recalculated as if they were done with 3% instead of 10% bonus so people lost some gens.
some people who lost looms from the /3 heirloom theft might have gotten some more but that should only effect the hardcore grinders.

basically nothing changed except you get to redistribute your heirlooms which mostly benefits the people who got their weapons nerfed after they were OP for half a year.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: VVarlord on May 05, 2011, 11:58:14 pm
basically nothing changed except you get to redistribute your heirlooms which mostly benefits the people who got their weapons nerfed after they were OP for half a year.

Meow you cant please everyone and in this case the majority needed to be sorted which is most of the people that have used OP weapons.

Well im sticking with the same weapon i always have and the same shield : )
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Zergmar on May 06, 2011, 12:01:35 am
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Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Meow on May 06, 2011, 12:01:58 am
agreed but i'd rather go with the solution that benefits the people that did not choose their gear by min/maxing then with one that only benefits the guys who used the weapons that got nerfed...
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: VVarlord on May 06, 2011, 12:07:29 am
agreed but i'd rather go with the solution that benefits the people that did not choose their gear by min/maxing then with one that only benefits the guys who used the weapons that got nerfed...

This wouldnt be a very successful mod if that was to happen to be honest.

Theres always going to be a weapon thats more powerful than the rest that the majority are going to use, nerfing it will create another one and nerfing that will create another one so its always going to happen.

You cant penalise people for wanting to use the best items, this way everyone gets a fresh start instead of please the minority and pissing off alot of people.

Like i said above im sticking with my signature weapon :D overpowered but underused!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Tor! on May 06, 2011, 12:09:48 am
Like i said above im sticking with my signature weapon :D overpowered but underused!

you put it to good use thats for sure  :)
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Cheapshot on May 06, 2011, 12:14:22 am
 Thanks for the great solution. I was like WTF!! when I joined the server and went from lvl 26 to 29 in 3 ticks. Most of my retirements were before January patch so I get to have more heirlooms then before eventhough I lost some gens. 
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Riddaren on May 06, 2011, 12:14:57 am
This is indeed a smart and fair recalculation. Nice work!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: VVarlord on May 06, 2011, 12:15:16 am
you put it to good use thats for sure  :)

+1 to you kind sir!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Cyclopsided on May 06, 2011, 12:15:45 am
basically nothing changed except you get to redistribute your heirlooms which mostly benefits the people who got their weapons nerfed after they were OP for half a year.
I'm sorry, it doesn't benefit mostly people who abused weapons being OP, it does benefit a few of them though.
It benefits more people who want a slight change in playstyle, and it benefits even MORE people who can't use weapons together/on their builds anymore due to requirements.
That line of logic is "To prevent a small minority of people who used an OP weapon, we must screw over the majority of people".
I'm getting really pissed off at this line of logic. I can't stand someone with a developer tag saying it repeatedly in this thread.

With that being said now, I am SO glad that this heirloom recalculation is being done. It is good to see that you do care about the majority of the player base.
I just hoped it would accompany a stat recalculation, because players over level 31 who can't use their items due to requirement changes got shafted as well. "Oh yeah, you can retire but you lose tons of EXP just so you can grind all the way back up to level to use your gear again."
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Spawny on May 06, 2011, 12:17:40 am
If you can't do it without the requirement try waiting to assign heirloom points until you do your shielder build?

I would, but I don't know how long I'll have to assign them. If it's infinite, it's not a problem. If it isn't, I'm in trouble :P
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Meow on May 06, 2011, 12:22:20 am
That line of logic is "To prevent a small minority of people who used an OP weapon, we must screw over the majority of people".

please tell me where i said that.

i would have been all for a reset of specific weapons that got nerfed.
i am not for resetting looms on 2h swords, barmaces and hafted blades.
it's not like i was like "don't ever allow heirloom respecing" so please make sure you understand what i am saying before you start talking stuff like that...
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: AgentQ on May 06, 2011, 12:51:12 am
best nerf so far  :D
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Casimir on May 06, 2011, 01:05:59 am
Seeing as half of my gens were pre patch im happy woth this. Im 1gen above where i was after the theft bit woth 10looms rather than 2.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Kung Fu Jesus on May 06, 2011, 01:12:58 am
I guess there's been no clarification on how this will work? Like if I have 8 heirloom modifications spread throught 5 items, would I get a flat 8 "points" to redistribute among my items?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: VVarlord on May 06, 2011, 01:16:44 am
I guess there's been no clarification on how this will work? Like if I have 8 heirloom modifications spread throught 5 items, would I get a flat 8 "points" to redistribute among my items?

Go to your character screen and see what your Generation which say if it is 10 you will have 9 heirlooms to spend.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Usul on May 06, 2011, 01:47:27 am
Propably this question was already asked... but when will i can spend my generation points?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Blondin on May 06, 2011, 01:52:15 am
Propably this question was already asked... but when will i can spend my generation points?

Once the code is done i guess.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Immolarian on May 06, 2011, 01:54:44 am
Propably this question was already asked... but when will i can spend my generation points?

In a few weeks I guess?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Zekerage on May 06, 2011, 01:59:06 am
When Strategus comes out :P
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Polobow on May 06, 2011, 02:23:49 am
Yeh, it could have been worse I figure.  Went from gen 91 to 31, but it seems fair based on a 3% bonus only never would have retired as often.

You were gen 91. I am amaze.

Thus, you gain awesomebar points.

Gen 91..... wow.

EDIT: Just... wow. What does steam say about it's hour level?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: CaptMorgan on May 06, 2011, 02:42:03 am
I'm a bit confused as to what I see on my screen...I went down to gen 6 and level 30 and I see

Experience16,114,062
+-7,378,219
Level up at8,735,843

Shouldn't that have put me at gen 7 with +7.3m XP?  It sounds like if I retire I lose that 7.3m xp!  Doesn't seem to jive with the original post, unless I'm missing something.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Rhaelys on May 06, 2011, 02:51:18 am
No, it's intended. Your generation was recalculated and rounded down if your experience would put you at a fraction of a generation (ie from 14 to 10.6). That fraction's worth of a generation is added to your character's current experience total.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Metz on May 06, 2011, 02:55:12 am
So Kesh was earning around ~45,000 exp every x5?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Siboire on May 06, 2011, 04:43:41 am
If i reach lvl 31 now and retire, which will make me gen 8, can i heirloom something or ill lose it when we will get our 'heirloom points' and only get 6 heirlooms like at the reset when i came back gen 7?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Rhaelys on May 06, 2011, 05:02:57 am
If i reach lvl 31 now and retire, which will make me gen 8, can i heirloom something or ill lose it when we will get our 'heirloom points' and only get 6 heirlooms like at the reset when i came back gen 7?

You can safely retire. You already lost your heirlooms, anyway.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Wallace on May 06, 2011, 05:09:17 am
This benefited me in every imaginable way...

I... Approve???
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Dach on May 06, 2011, 05:10:49 am
WOW!

Fasader you're a genius! and thank to chadz for applying this new idea!

Since must of my retirement were done before the first theft, I'm now down 3 gen but I get one more heirloom!!!

 :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Heroin on May 06, 2011, 05:35:25 am
Thanks be to chadz and Fasader for coming up with a fair solution to the heirloom issue. I also feel like the XP bonus thing helps with those of us who don't have as much time to grind as we used to. I am satisfied.

I would like to take this opportunity to apologize once more to both chadz and the community at large for my rage post the other day regarding this issue. Thanks for understanding.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: DrKronic on May 06, 2011, 05:41:47 am
I have no heirlooms and am now gen 11(which the same as my "heirloom" level would be) but I'm cool with it whenever I find out how to reheirloom stuff :D
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Gorath on May 06, 2011, 06:41:37 am
Hmmm,
Nothing changed on any of my characters.  They're all the same gen, with the same heirlooms as before (along with the same missing items, which you explained so that's no issue).  So I'm a bit confused.

*Nevermind, I have no heirlooms, but my level and gen are the same.... weird.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Heroin on May 06, 2011, 06:49:28 am
I have no heirlooms and am now gen 11(which the same as my "heirloom" level would be) but I'm cool with it whenever I find out how to reheirloom stuff :D

Yeah, I don't think people are able to heirloom stuff yet.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Liveon on May 06, 2011, 07:53:25 am
1.What happened to the ppl, who have reached +35 lvl ?
Because if they kept this level, it created an impassable chasm (between players) and even make ~10 masterworks, not compensate for  ~+3PS or ~+3WM...

2.Now going into retirement is completely safe, or is it better to wait for the restoration of older modifiers?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Vibe on May 06, 2011, 08:08:12 am
1.What happened to the ppl, who have reached +35 lvl ?
Because if they kept this level, it created an impassable chasm (between players) and even make ~10 masterworks, not compensate for  ~+3PS or ~+3WM...

2.Now going into retirement is completely safe, or is it better to wait for the restoration of older modifiers?

2. I heard it's safe.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Nihtgenga on May 06, 2011, 08:11:57 am
2. I heard it's safe.

same, I asked chadz on IRC
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: MrShine on May 06, 2011, 08:12:59 am
I just retired and was able to heirloom as usual, so that seems good.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: T_Grellenort on May 06, 2011, 08:22:59 am
Again hurt retirees. : (
So the game will be boring. Unable to reach a high level and good bonuses on retirement. No goals ... a beautiful new outfit, but to get them very easy, fun couple of days.
Boring ...

I only hope to return my heirloom.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: v/onMega on May 06, 2011, 08:46:21 am
Lovely solution.

Retirement now is history again for me :-)
Couple of hard decisions will follow very soon once one can loom stuff again.

Lost 3 gens, gained 9 mill xp though, never ever before benefited from a patch so far...
This time I did, so just passing a quick thank you.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: tankmen on May 06, 2011, 08:56:12 am
thought id say thanks,

now i can heirloom my 1h sword n go back to 1h cav, missed my shield. also Im not far from exp cap
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Sagar on May 06, 2011, 09:43:33 am
I retire first time before 7 days and heirloom - Highlander Claymore. Now I'm generation 2 but from yesterday my Tempered Highland Claymore is now just a Highlander Claymore. So what now?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: _RXN_ on May 06, 2011, 09:52:59 am
Try to read the first post, not sure but maybe it will help...
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Sagar on May 06, 2011, 10:08:36 am
I read but there no changes for my character except lost heirloom. So I dont understand what to do.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Nihtgenga on May 06, 2011, 10:24:25 am
I read but there no changes for my character except lost heirloom. So I dont understand what to do.

its all in the first post

wait till the def team figured out how to give the heirlooms back, it will happen soon
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Riddaren on May 06, 2011, 11:13:12 am
So we will soon get heirloom points to choose new items to heirloom?
How does that work? Does each heirloom point increase the level of a weapon with 1 or 3?

The reason I'm asking is because I'm level 31 and want to retire.

I've lost all my heirloomed items. Two level 3 items and one level 1 item.
Should I heirloom any of my 2 first choices or the third if I retire now?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Spawny on May 06, 2011, 11:17:11 am
So we will soon get heirloom points to choose new items to heirloom?
How does that work? Does each heirloom point increase the level of a weapon with 1 or 3?

The reason I'm asking is because I'm level 31 and want to retire.

I've lost all my heirloomed items. 2 level 3 and 1 level 1.
Should I heirloom any of my 2 first choices or the third if I retire now?

You get 1 heirloom point per generation-1. If you're gen 9 now, you get 8 heirloompoints to redistribute.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Riddaren on May 06, 2011, 11:19:36 am
Ok, thx.
I'll be gen 7 when I retire so that means 2 fully heirloomed items. That is good.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Mala on May 06, 2011, 11:49:24 am
I am not so sure about the two full heirlooms.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Liveon on May 06, 2011, 11:52:37 am
OK, thanks for information about retirement.
Nice... but the most important question remained unanswered.
What is present/future for the people who reach above +35lvl?
If the changes/patch/restart hit only those, who are often passed to the next generations, then... Houston, we have a problem .
Cus then the whole urban legend about equal opportunities and fight/offensive against grinders out the window...
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Punisher on May 06, 2011, 12:20:36 pm
All heirlooms were removed for now (there are no heirlooms in game, you are not the only one who lost them).

Once chadz finishes the coding, you will receive a number of heirloom points based on your current generation (number = generation-1) that you can spend to improve items, just like you chose an item when retiring.

For example, if you are now gen 4, you get 3 heirloom points. You can spend them as you want, either get one masterwork or 3 tempered, etc.


@ Liveon
Level 35 is ~150 million xp. With the new cap at 1450 xp it would take like 6 months reaching it, and all you get would be 4 extra attributes/skillpoints compared to a level 31. That's just a slight advantage, hardly gamebreaking.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: bosco on May 06, 2011, 12:25:05 pm
When I played after this change hit yesterday, I once found a Tempered Greatsword on the ground...  :o
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Punisher on May 06, 2011, 12:27:47 pm
When I played after this change hit yesterday, I once found a Tempered Greatsword on the ground...  :o

That's because the items dissapear after logout.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Spawny on May 06, 2011, 12:36:25 pm
That's because the items dissapear after logout.

That's because you can still retire now. If you retired AFTER the heirloom theft, you can still have an heirloomed piece of equipment.
Should be impossible to find a 2 or more times heirloomed weapon now.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Liveon on May 06, 2011, 12:47:29 pm
@ Liveon
Level 35 is ~150 million xp. With the new cap at 1450 xp it would take like 6 months reaching it, and all you get would be 4 extra attributes/skillpoints compared to a level 31. That's just a slight advantage, hardly gamebreaking.

You don't understand me.
I'm asking for those ,who already now (!) have over 35 lvl?
And absolute truth, this level(+35) is (almost) unattainable, as he wrote-and this is the real problem, and is not to equate( by the playtime for the game {under the current rules})...

PS Definitely, most players are planning build to level 30(not 31-this is automatic retirement time), and this is a huge difference (compared to 35 and higher lvl's).
Maybe for example:

HA 30lvl

str:15
agi:24

riding:6
PD:5
horse archery:4
WM:8
archery:172

HA 35lvl

str:15
agi:30(!!!)
riding:6
horse archery 5!!!(this is + 6 agi!-anyone, who has ever had so, he knows what a huge difference)
PD :5
archery 172(!!!)
1h: 125(!!!)
WM: 10(!!!)

Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Punisher on May 06, 2011, 12:48:34 pm
Who the hell is level 35+ ? :shock:
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: v/onMega on May 06, 2011, 12:53:53 pm
Who the hell is level 35+ ? :shock:

 :D
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Meow on May 06, 2011, 01:05:34 pm
there is no level 35 player  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Siiem on May 06, 2011, 01:20:15 pm
there is no level 35 player  :mrgreen:

Vicious?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Meow on May 06, 2011, 01:22:46 pm
nope :P

for real there is no 35 player.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Liveon on May 06, 2011, 01:23:05 pm
Who the hell is level 35+ ? :shock:
Maybe those who are most happy with the changes?
LOL...
Do you think it was a big problem for Keshian?
And even for me:D?
And the entire mass of people who are over gen 30?

Count yourself ... This lasted for a one week or 1 month.
Incredible, i know, but true.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: VVarlord on May 06, 2011, 01:43:05 pm
nope :P

for real there is no 35 player.

Vicious and Kesh are half way to 35 from what i can gather. Im sure they will post on here if different.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Liveon on May 06, 2011, 01:50:34 pm
I'm now gen 22, pre-patch  gen 45.

during the weekend I was able to do two generations 8-)
Perhaps like Kesh is a few, but like me ...
Now, count- how long(before the patch) it would take me to do lvl 35, ROTFL.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Meow on May 06, 2011, 01:51:43 pm
oh right forgot about the xp recalc  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: VVarlord on May 06, 2011, 01:52:05 pm
oh right forgot about the xp recalc  :mrgreen:

: )
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Liveon on May 06, 2011, 01:57:46 pm
oh right forgot about the xp recalc  :mrgreen:

Yeap, after patch I got a bonus 7 mln exp.
Right, forgot  :lol:
Thx, chadz, my lord...
PS How they got, Keshian and Vicious 8-)?
EDIT:Wow, My AwesomeBar is shrinking, the truth hurts? :P
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Blackstone on May 06, 2011, 02:50:57 pm
From chadz
Quote
...we calculated the bonus back with 10% and recalculated the new generation with 3%...all heirlooms were reset...heirlooms were recalculated on generation.

Balanced solution for everyone, and very much appreciated. Thank you.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Liveon on May 06, 2011, 02:58:16 pm
From chadz
Balanced solution for everyone, and very much appreciated. Thank you.

Woot,woot?
Where is written that the lvl's have been balanced?
Maybe I am blind, please, enlighten me, man!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Jambi on May 06, 2011, 03:42:08 pm
Logged on. Insta level 31.

Retiring once the heirloom redistribute thingy comes..

Thanks chadz, love it! :wink:
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Phazey on May 06, 2011, 03:44:28 pm
Heh, guess i'm the only one who hates this?

Now i have to choose all over again.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Zergmar on May 06, 2011, 03:48:47 pm
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Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on May 06, 2011, 04:34:11 pm
soooo is the xp gain proportional to generations lost?

If thats true i gained like 7 mil or something and i was just gen 9, so i wonder how much xp the ultra high gens got, like 50+ mil or something?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Brutal on May 06, 2011, 04:37:15 pm
Woot,woot?
Where is written that the lvl's have been balanced?
Maybe I am blind, please, enlighten me, man!

Thanks for being honest Liveon didn't imagine that people where lvl35 with full heirloomed gear.
Guess they will quit cRPG now or make alt because they really isn't anything to grind to anymoar at that lvl with the xp cap.  :mrgreen:
Not to mention that the recalculation gave them a couple more heirloom to spend, yup pretty balanced   

Anyway it's pretty nice playing without heirloom right now, i was surprised to have such nice k/D ratio with my gen1  archer alt and topping the scoreboard now i know why...
Cuz all the hardcore grinder and most experienced player are offline  :lol:
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Gorath on May 06, 2011, 04:49:38 pm
I'm still confused.  Everyone is saying they got bonus xp and shit, but my level-xp-gen are all exactly the same without change.  Only thing that's different is that I don't have my heirlooms.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Penchik on May 06, 2011, 04:56:03 pm
Yeah same.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Punisher on May 06, 2011, 05:06:41 pm
soooo is the xp gain proportional to generations lost?

If thats true i gained like 7 mil or something and i was just gen 9, so i wonder how much xp the ultra high gens got, like 50+ mil or something?

Hmm I was gen 9 and only got 5 mil. You are clearly hacking :o

I'm still confused.  Everyone is saying they got bonus xp and shit, but my level-xp-gen are all exactly the same without change.  Only thing that's different is that I don't have my heirlooms.

Depends on what gen you were Gorath, I think gen <5 didnt get changed. Bonus xp was awarded when gen calculation was a fraction, like ending up gen 6.5 after calculation, so you get gen6 + 0.5 x the xp of a generation (~4 400 000 xp) in this case.

As for high gen getting 50 mil xp bonus, if I understand the system right it's not possible, bonus was awarded only for fractions, so max bonus would be 0.9 x gen xp, that's about 8 million xp.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Tor! on May 06, 2011, 05:10:59 pm
Hmm I was gen 9 and only got 5 mil. You are clearly hacking :o

He must have been. But you have to been hacking too! Was gen 10 and only got 3 mill, you bastards   :cry:
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Cepeshi on May 06, 2011, 05:14:19 pm
gen 11, got like 8 mil extra or what :) maybe 7, dont remember how much i had b4
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: HarunYahya on May 06, 2011, 05:33:41 pm
I was gen 9 and level 27 after this thing , i became level 31 with 11.115.742 exp (6ml to hit 32 :O) and only gen 6 now -.-
I won't retire till i redistrubute my heirlooms.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Mala on May 06, 2011, 05:35:57 pm
Damn, i was gen 17 and got only 3 mil xp, as well.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Dravic on May 06, 2011, 05:37:15 pm
It wasn't about GEN, it was about HOW MUCH XP YOU NEEDED TO 31 LVL!

edit: also, some of you got extra xp. that's normal when you would have ended up on, say, generation 10.5, so you would get 0.5 xp requirement as a bonus.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Liveon on May 06, 2011, 05:51:49 pm
It wasn't about GEN, it was about HOW MUCH XP YOU NEEDED TO 31 LVL!
That's not true.
This has no connection with the 31 lvl.

PS Sorry Dravic, ale łykasz jak młoda kawka, co ci chadz napisze( a później to ekstrapolujesz po swojemu) i pieprzysz głupoty, nie mające oparcia w rzeczywistości.
Ja od razu wskoczyłem(chyba) z ~5,5mln na  ponad ~12,5 mln xp, więc to są głodne kawałki , że ten exp-bonus  ma związek z 31 lvl.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Keshian on May 06, 2011, 05:57:06 pm
soooo is the xp gain proportional to generations lost?

If thats true i gained like 7 mil or something and i was just gen 9, so i wonder how much xp the ultra high gens got, like 50+ mil or something?

No, it was a fraction of whatever the division didn't allow like 8.3 gens means .3 worth of a geenration xp, so no one made over 8.7 million xp.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Magikarp on May 06, 2011, 05:59:57 pm
I do hate how all the prepatch grinders get a reward with the added exp and more heirlooms to pick than others. Would love if the heirloom point would cap at like 6 a character.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Keshian on May 06, 2011, 06:03:53 pm
I do hate how all the prepatch grinders get a reward with the added exp and more heirlooms to pick than others. Would love if the heirloom point would cap at like 6 a character.

It wasn't grinding.  People played more than you because they had fun, and they retired at level 31 because there was nothing else to do at level 31 unless you were a grinder who wanted to grind to level 33.  So in fact the people thatr retired more often were the non-grinders who wanted to try new builds rather than grind levels.  Your logic fails magikarp.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Magikarp on May 06, 2011, 06:07:50 pm
It wasn't grinding.  People played more than you because they had fun, and they retired at level 31 because there was nothing else to do at level 31 unless you were a grinder who wanted to grind to level 33.  So in fact the people thatr retired more often were the non-grinders who wanted to try new builds rather than grind levels.  Your logic fails magikarp.
It doesn't, a smart math addict actually pointed out that retiring made the way to 33+ levels much faster than doing it all in one go.

I have fun too, but Im a human being, I play as a casual player. Yes, hardcore players who play for nothing but rewards should get them. But in this way players who grind the crap out of the game when exp is too easy to gain, get rewarded too.

Btw, 6 is an example. I would love some sort of cap. You got players receiving over 15 heirloom points, and that's not wrong according to you?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: VVarlord on May 06, 2011, 06:12:01 pm
You got players receiving over 15 heirloom points, and that's not wrong according to you?

Why would it be wrong if they have put the effort and time into this mod, good luck to them for getting high enough gen!

Jealousy is a hateful thing.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Magikarp on May 06, 2011, 06:14:17 pm
Why would it be wrong if they have put the effort and time into this mod, good luck to them for getting high enough gen!

Jealousy is a hateful thing.
It's not jealousy, it's merely that I find it unjustful to reward those who exploit the easy generation gaining.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: VVarlord on May 06, 2011, 06:15:47 pm
It's not jealousy, it's merely that I find it unjustful to reward those who exploit the easy generation gaining.

If its easy why isnt everyone high gen?

What is unjustful about the system? That people with enough time on a game can get a better advantage? Well sir welcome to online gaming.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Radix on May 06, 2011, 06:26:50 pm
If its easy why isnt everyone high gen?

What is unjustful about the system? That people with enough time on a game can get a better advantage? Well sir welcome to online gaming.

well, first question u have answered urself.

The 'room' gaming is specific because this is where not time spent counts but skill. cRPG is still a 'room' online game.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Magikarp on May 06, 2011, 06:30:00 pm
If its easy why isnt everyone high gen?

What is unjustful about the system? That people with enough time on a game can get a better advantage? Well sir welcome to online gaming.
I think we can all agree that retiring was too easy in the past. Result was that the biggest grinders got the most generations, which gave them more exp bonuses. which gave them more generations, etc. I think you can do the math.

Anyways, my suggestion may be a little cruel, but it's definatly something to think about.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: chadz on May 06, 2011, 06:32:14 pm
yes, generation system was highly exploitable.

That's exactly why it was calculated back.

So the problem was fixed.

I really don't see your problem.

(Edit: Kesh lost about 65% of heirlooms, and you still think that is unfair towards you?)
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Magikarp on May 06, 2011, 06:35:53 pm
yes, generation system was highly exploitable.

That's exactly why it was calculated back.

So the problem was fixed.

I really don't see your problem.

(Edit: Kesh lost about 65% of heirlooms, and you still think that is unfair towards you?)
Nah, serves him right for grinding the shit out of the game.

People take me so serious when I post these out of nowhere suggestions, troll succesful.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: chadz on May 06, 2011, 06:41:40 pm
Nah, serves him right for grinding the shit out of the game.

People take me so serious when I post these out of nowhere suggestions, troll succesful.
Good people, do not hesitate to use the awesomeBar Feature.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: VVarlord on May 06, 2011, 06:47:15 pm
Good people, do not hesitate to use the awesomeBar Feature.

Unleash!!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Tiberias on May 06, 2011, 06:53:09 pm
how long it takes to code it chadz ????
I CANT WAIT
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on May 06, 2011, 07:03:57 pm
awesome news 8-)
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: VVarlord on May 06, 2011, 07:04:33 pm
how long it takes to code it chadz ????
I CANT WAIT

Dont start the pestering for that now....

Just wait, or chadz will trolololol like never before :P
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Frankysan on May 06, 2011, 07:14:05 pm
Stellar Troll potential!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on May 06, 2011, 07:23:04 pm
i lost my masterwork arbalest (which lost 1 heirloom with previous update already), i lost masterwork light crossbow  (which lost 1 heirloom with previous update already), and i lost my masterwork steel bolts + 3 generations. with the new super nerf of xbow men and nerf of exp u really FUCKED MY DAY! thx -,-

and pls guys stop try to suck the admin's balls with sentenses like 'oh this is totally fair and cool and awesome' it is not it is bullshit.

and my beloved cattle helmet still messes up with my padded cloth at the throat...and when i look into this gay french new face i could justpuke -.- im glad i dont need to play crpg at least untill the next big update, i hope that is gonna be better!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Zergmar on May 06, 2011, 07:25:17 pm
i lost my masterwork arbalest (which lost 1 heirloom with previous update already), i lost masterwork light crossbow  (which lost 1 heirloom with previous update already), and i lost my masterwork steel bolts + 3 generations. with the new super nerf of xbow men and nerf of exp u really FUCKED MY DAY! thx -,-

and pls guys stop try to suck the admin's balls with sentenses like 'oh this is totally fair and cool and awesome' it is not it is bullshit.
did you read the first post?
you gonna get your heirlooms
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: BlackMilk on May 06, 2011, 07:26:21 pm
oh this is totally fair and cool and awesome
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on May 06, 2011, 07:27:06 pm
congratz blackmilk, u just sucked some ballZ
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Rashale on May 06, 2011, 07:28:52 pm
i lost my masterwork arbalest (which lost 1 heirloom with previous update already), i lost masterwork light crossbow  (which lost 1 heirloom with previous update already), and i lost my masterwork steel bolts + 3 generations. with the new super nerf of xbow men and nerf of exp u really FUCKED MY DAY! thx -,-

and pls guys stop try to suck the admin's balls with sentenses like 'oh this is totally fair and cool and awesome' it is not it is bullshit.

and my beloved cattle helmet still messes up with my padded cloth at the throat...and when i look into this gay french new face i could justpuke -.- im glad i dont need to play crpg at least untill the next big update, i hope that is gonna be better!

so cute
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on May 06, 2011, 07:29:48 pm
infact im a very agressive and angry person. dont know what u think is cute on me thy troll
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Malaclypse on May 06, 2011, 07:30:18 pm
This is really awesome. Like, beyond my wildest dreams. I figured I'd get my MW Long Esplada back (even though I've realized that from Native to cRPG, polearms are where my heart truly lies... lay? sits), but now I can undo that mistake and go for something I'll actually use, plus, rocks. Thanks chadz and the rest of the dev team!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Oldsnake on May 06, 2011, 07:30:50 pm
u are right it's not totally fair: one should have the right to keep only 1 main heriloom (like sword, bow) and 1 secondary heirloom (arrows, bolts, gauntlets). Anything else above this taints the idea of heirloom (something rare and precious, carried from grandpa). I mean ur grandpa is not a medieval Bill Gates to let u inherit 20 mw katanas and 34  champion coursers.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Tzar on May 06, 2011, 07:35:50 pm
oh this is totally fair and cool and awesome
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Jarlek on May 06, 2011, 07:40:11 pm
so cute
I like how he can't read yet still manage to be insulted by what we write.

Shits so paradox!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Malaclypse on May 06, 2011, 07:44:17 pm
I mean ur grandpa is not a medieval Bill Gates to let u inherit 20 mw katanas and 34  champion coursers.

thanks for making me laugh
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Rangerbob on May 06, 2011, 07:57:28 pm
I think when your awesome bar hits -50 you should get an automute
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: chadz on May 06, 2011, 07:59:25 pm
in other news, the item sheet is fixed(missing items, messed up texts) and the heirloom spending can begin shortly, stay tuned.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Zergmar on May 06, 2011, 08:01:42 pm
in other news, the item sheet is fixed(missing items, messed up texts) and the heirloom spending can begin shortly, stay tuned.

bashing that F5 key for 15 hours straight, not gonna stop now!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Peasant_Woman on May 06, 2011, 08:02:27 pm
in other news, the item sheet is fixed(missing items, messed up texts) and the heirloom spending can begin shortly, stay tuned.

So do you want the fellatio now or after its implemented?
 :lol:
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Izuza on May 06, 2011, 08:04:04 pm
in other news, the item sheet is fixed(missing items, messed up texts) and the heirloom spending can begin shortly, stay tuned.
A langes messer!

omg omg omg

FOR REAL!
I LOVE YOU!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Kryser on May 06, 2011, 08:04:46 pm
I'll take it now, thank you
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Magikarp on May 06, 2011, 08:24:09 pm
Good people, do not hesitate to use the awesomeBar Feature.
Doubled my negative awesome bar within a matter of minutes, I rock!

Get to work yer Donkey!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Polobow on May 06, 2011, 08:26:33 pm
in other news, the item sheet is fixed(missing items, messed up texts) and the heirloom spending can begin shortly, stay tuned.

Are the torch and santa hat back?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Duster on May 06, 2011, 08:38:01 pm
Love this thread.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
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Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: BandoftheHawk on May 06, 2011, 09:06:04 pm
So, I got Gen 2 about 2 weeks ago. How do I go about getting my Heirloom back?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Glyph on May 06, 2011, 09:15:21 pm
will we get our heirlooms back or can we repick them?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Rashale on May 06, 2011, 09:16:23 pm
will we get our heirlooms back or can we repick them?

Read the thread you .... :evil:
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Kryser on May 06, 2011, 09:18:08 pm
If your too lazy/dumb to read the OP, we all get 30 free looms to pick, thats why everyone is so happy  :mrgreen: So if everyone gets 30 and you only get 1, its your fault for being ignorant.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Glyph on May 06, 2011, 09:21:40 pm
Read the thread you .... :evil:
i freaking can't really because i'm a 13 year old from the netherlands!!!!!!!!!!  :evil: :evil: :evil:
i can understand the main thing but where do i have to look for my awnser? nvm i now know that you can repick it, and thanks for the help butcrack :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Magikarp on May 06, 2011, 09:31:03 pm
i freaking can't really because i'm a 13 year old from the netherlands!!!!!!!!!!  :evil: :evil: :evil:
i can understand the main thing but where do i have to look for my awnser? nvm i now know that you can repick it, and thanks for the help butcrack :mrgreen:
DOMME PEASANT! :P

Gief heirloom respec now, the fish commands it chadz! You know fishies beat donkies!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Glyph on May 06, 2011, 09:34:46 pm
DOMME PEASANT! :P

Gief heirloom respec now, the fish commands it chadz! You know fishies beat donkies!
try to go on land you morron! look if you can beat him then 8-) lolz
and that was a joke :wink:
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Yaron on May 06, 2011, 09:37:28 pm
DOMME PEASANT! :P

Gief heirloom respec now, the fish commands it chadz! You know fishies beat donkies!
Never! This cake is a lie! PIE FTW!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Glyph on May 06, 2011, 09:39:07 pm
Never! This cake is a lie! PIE FTW!
i like cake...
lol plus +1 yaron!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Magikarp on May 06, 2011, 09:39:58 pm
Never! This cake is a lie! PIE FTW!
Oh sheeet, daunkeys be takin' over da world!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Glyph on May 06, 2011, 09:42:32 pm
Oh sheeet, daunkeys be takin' over da world!
first they act nice but then they kill us,take our wives, burn our houses, steal our heirlooms and take our gold!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Yaron on May 06, 2011, 09:44:33 pm
Hail the Daunkey Lord!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: chadz on May 06, 2011, 09:45:34 pm
Happy Looming.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Tiberias on May 06, 2011, 09:45:53 pm
first they act nice but then they kill us,take our wives, burn our houses, steal our heirlooms and take our gold!
and they eat our brains......  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Magikarp on May 06, 2011, 09:47:05 pm
ITS THAR< EHRILOOMS ARE THAR
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: MrShine on May 06, 2011, 09:47:45 pm
I can haz heirloom points?

Mmmm... yes please!

(ty for the update!)
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Chort on May 06, 2011, 09:48:08 pm
It's OK, that "heirloom" button stays after 3 heirlooms?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Peasant_Woman on May 06, 2011, 09:52:01 pm
So will we keep our heirloom points forever if we decide not to spend them?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Zergmar on May 06, 2011, 09:53:01 pm
Happy Looming.

feels like christmass
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Halevolm on May 06, 2011, 10:01:37 pm
It's OK, that "heirloom" button stays after 3 heirlooms?
I was wondering the same thing, anyone had the guts to try if it makes the item something new? I dare not, too few points.  :P
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: MrShine on May 06, 2011, 10:07:47 pm
I was too much of a pansy.  I'm guessing it will give you an error message...?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Halevolm on May 06, 2011, 10:08:04 pm
prob.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Gondemar on May 06, 2011, 10:12:33 pm
Awesome chadz (and admins), thanks.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Banok on May 06, 2011, 10:20:05 pm
So will we keep our heirloom points forever if we decide not to spend them?

I want to know this!
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: StuLLe on May 06, 2011, 10:45:23 pm
Awesome Work, chadz and the rest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great Solution with the recalculation, love it!!!!


Only one Question, well 2 actually.
1:   Will there be any more weapons changed from 2 to 1 slot in the near future, or can I already loom my weapon of choice as an archer?

2:  The Langes Messer has in secondary mode two hand animation for swings, but the polearmanimation for thrust. Is this a bug or is it intended???

THX and Peace,

StuLLe

Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Dravic on May 06, 2011, 10:45:53 pm
So will we keep our heirloom points forever if we decide not to spend them?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Prpavi on May 06, 2011, 10:46:41 pm
I want to know this!

+1 i already spent mine points but some clanmates are stressing about it  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Kung Fu Jesus on May 06, 2011, 10:53:02 pm
I'm scared to retire because the heirloom page doesn't look any different. I don't see anything indicating multiple heirloom points or options. How does this work?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: MrShovelFace on May 06, 2011, 10:58:33 pm
I was wondering the same thing, anyone had the guts to try if it makes the item something new? I dare not, too few points.  :P

no effect on points
Trying to heirloom my mighty goedendag did nothing to my point count or my weapon
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Banok on May 06, 2011, 11:08:11 pm
thanks chadz
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Magikarp on May 06, 2011, 11:10:18 pm
I'm scared to retire because the heirloom page doesn't look any different. I don't see anything indicating multiple heirloom points or options. How does this work?
GO to the equipment screen, you should have an heirloom button next to each item you own.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Cosmos_Shielder on May 06, 2011, 11:18:33 pm
So will we keep our heirloom points forever if we decide not to spend them?
?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: chadz on May 06, 2011, 11:21:02 pm
Probably not, no.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: gazda on May 06, 2011, 11:43:35 pm
I'm scared to retire because the heirloom page doesn't look any different. I don't see anything indicating multiple heirloom points or options. How does this work?

go to equipment --> inventory , and under inventory you will see your items, under the item stats you will se two buttons, sell, and heirloom, click heirloom
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Bobthehero on May 06, 2011, 11:49:41 pm
Fucken hate to say it chadz but I love you, and I dont have to retire no more, and I get a thick armor, fucken love the long espada as well, thank ye good sir.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: jspook on May 07, 2011, 12:56:43 am
Just to be perfectly clear:

your earlier post stated that we would be going back to 10% per retirement? 
Quote
This means that we calculated the bonus back with 10%

and the website on the the retirement page says
Quote
Retire at level 31
Your character gains a generation. For each generation you get 100 XP more per tick.

And yet I am still only getting 60xp per tick at gen 3 instead of 200.   is this something that is going to be changed?  or is the website incorrect and I am mis-reading your initial post??
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Harald on May 07, 2011, 02:12:17 am
and the website on the the retirement page says
And yet I am still only getting 60xp per tick at gen 3 instead of 200.   is this something that is going to be changed?  or is the website incorrect and I am mis-reading your initial post??
The website is incorrect, need to change that.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Vicious666 on May 07, 2011, 05:03:32 am
Yeap, after patch I got a bonus 7 mln exp.
Right, forgot  :lol:
Thx, chadz, my lord...
PS How they got, Keshian and Vicious 8-)?
EDIT:Wow, My AwesomeBar is shrinking, the truth hurts? :P

i am happy :)
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Pandor_Archer on May 07, 2011, 05:18:41 am
i have 11 gen why only 7 items i can loom?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 07, 2011, 05:19:19 am
i have 11 gen why only 7 items i can loom?

Fasader stole some.
Seriously.

You are not the only one.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: jspook on May 07, 2011, 06:16:45 am
The website is incorrect, need to change that.

Thank you!!   :D
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Gatsby on May 07, 2011, 12:55:31 pm
Oboviosly i retired this morning wasting my loom in something i already have xD
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Polobow on May 07, 2011, 01:17:27 pm
chadz, i am dissapoint :C.

Where is my torch?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: justme on May 07, 2011, 01:42:33 pm
how long would last avaiable points for looming? i need first to retire again, and then start the real build
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Spawny on May 07, 2011, 02:08:23 pm
how long would last avaiable points for looming? i need first to retire again, and then start the real build

Doesn't matter, with the points from previous heirlooms you can heirloom anything in your inventory, including stuff you can't use.

So you can heirloom the stuff you want for your final build right now.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Digglez on May 07, 2011, 04:30:59 pm
cRPG team, very slick job with the heirloom points.  Worked very well, I'm impressed.  Keep up the good work
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: DrKronic on May 07, 2011, 04:50:46 pm
yea super uber patch/gen recal FTW , I reallty enjoyed the day not having any too :D
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: MASTER_KILLER on May 07, 2011, 07:35:14 pm
Question on heirlooms before I choose my looms. Does looming now increase its cost too now, (hence its upkeep) or is it the same?
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Spurdospera on May 07, 2011, 07:37:33 pm
Question on heirlooms before I choose my looms. Does looming now increase its cost (hence its upkeep), and does looming increase item requirement too now or is it the same?
upkeep and requirement are same for looms and regular items.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Reinhardt on May 07, 2011, 07:38:22 pm
Question on heirlooms before I choose my looms. Does looming now increase its cost (hence its upkeep), and does looming increase item requirement too now or is it the same?

It's the same.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: MASTER_KILLER on May 07, 2011, 07:59:41 pm
Alright, thanks.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Spawny on May 07, 2011, 08:11:12 pm
Heirlooming does increase an items value, but that's only used when you sell it.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Hardlegend on May 13, 2011, 01:06:42 am
BOULDER ON A STICK IS MISSIN!!!

WE ALL WAANT IT BACK!!!!

GIVE US BOULDER ON A STICK!!!

Screw that other silly lookin thing.

Legend92
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 13, 2011, 09:02:36 pm
BOULDER ON A STICK IS MISSIN!!!

WE ALL WAANT IT BACK!!!!

GIVE US BOULDER ON A STICK!!!

Screw that other silly lookin thing.

Legend92
posting in capitals + in multiple threads will make no one listen to you.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: LLJK_Brolocaust on May 14, 2011, 01:03:56 am
So after I carefully redistributed my heirloom points chads goes and changes the horse bonuses... I really wish I could redistribute them again, they need some sort of system similar to the one in WoW where we would pay 10,000 gold for the first redistribution, 50,000 for the second, 100,000 for the third and so on. Either that or please stop changing heirloom stats immediately after letting us redistribute them.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Torben on May 14, 2011, 01:51:43 pm
dude our heirloomed horses got more hitpoints in return,  i think thats fair
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Heroin on May 14, 2011, 09:55:21 pm
dude our heirloomed horses got more hitpoints in return,  i think thats fair

I don't. I agree with the previous poster. It makes little sense to allow heirloom respecs because you changed item stats, only to wait a couple days for people to spend their heirloom points, and change item stats again. If that isn't trolling, I don't know what is.

People choose their items to heirloom based on stats. Changing those stats, but then saying "Oh, well we got extra hp though" is not really a valid argument. If people wanted more hp, they would have heirloomed a horse with more hp.
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: LLJK_Brolocaust on May 14, 2011, 09:57:57 pm
dude our heirloomed horses got more hitpoints in return,  i think thats fair

Champion horses are ok but Heavy Courser >>> Well Bred Courser. It's not the same
Title: Re: Char recalculation
Post by: Liveon on May 14, 2011, 10:19:11 pm
Champion horses are ok but Heavy Courser >>> Well Bred Courser. It's not the same

Yeah...
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I saw it before moment... Unfortunately,I can't use Heavy Courser :?