who are you weewum, to dare minus the lance nerf!!! graH!!!!I am a person who is offended by this post in some odd and inexplicable manner.
who are you weewum, to dare minus the lance nerf!!! graH!!!!
75 pierce for the Great Lance, wut? I thought infantry complained about being couched before...Well, not by the great lance, but by the heavy lance. Seeing as I don't know a single player that is pure great lance on his main.
75 pierce for the Great Lance, wut? I thought infantry complained about being couched before...
before the patch sometimes people can survive 1 couch from Great lance (like 20% or 10 to survive depends on the speed), it's all good now.
I have just been couched twice in a row by heavy lancers and did not die.
what use is in a weapon that does no damage.
People say that about the torch all the time. They don't realize there is more to weapons than damage.
To be fair, the heavy lance has the same thrust damage as the simple sword (unloomed, from the website).
However, should the speed bonus not make up for it?
give me a burning heavy lance and i´d agree.I really wish I could
75 pierce for the Great Lance, wut? I thought infantry complained about being couched before...
To be fair, the heavy lance has the same thrust damage as the simple sword (unloomed, from the website).
However, should the speed bonus not make up for it?
HAHAHAOMGWHAT?
i finally went insane over the last patch.
To be fair, the heavy lance has the same thrust damage as the simple sword (unloomed, from the website).Try lance cav moncho so you will know :-)
However, should the speed bonus not make up for it?
Try lance cav moncho so you will know :-)
dare i mention the heavy lance's price?Did they change horse's breaking chance? I paid for courser 3 times in a row then dropped it. 3x1388 makes a difference.
give me a burning heavy lance and i´d agree.Now this would be bad ass.
The heavy lance nerf was not a small one. That's for sure.
The decrease of heavy lance damage is an inderect nerf of the arbian warhorse and a buff to other horses.
I no longer 1 hit kill light armoured targets, which I did before. I even thrusted a guy, then couched lanced him and finally finished him off with yet another thrust.
Arabian warhorse = useless now compared to before
how is that a buff to other horses. at least you got the maneuverability to get those headshots. also, you can easily go normal lance thanks to man.
yesterday couched guy two times with my mw heavy lance and he didnt die....... how lame is that
Well, to be honest I think it's ok as it is now. I still top the scoreboard so lancing is far from useless.
It just gets some time to get used to. Good nerf? Yeah, probably.
But people will still complain abour lancers being OP, that is for sure.
Funny how the new polearm is better than a mw heavy lance. All inf. wanted was for the lances to not be able to couche. Great lance is mean for couching, make that only have couche.
If the couching ability had been removed instead of the decrease in damage, it would have been much less of a nerf.
The point of couching previously was to make a certain 1 hit kill, expecially on a horse. Couching now is quite useless. Just like thrusting is.
But I don't mind. I will keep playing lancer no matter how much it gets nerfed.
But people will still complain abour lancers being OP, that is for sure.
seriously, i cant even kill a horse archer with my heavy lance any more. what use is in a weapon that does no damage.you sux then i died 2 times from couch of heavy lance.
you sux then i died 2 times from couch of heavy lance.
My great lance has become an insta lance :mrgreen:
No its not, a guy (archer) survive my great lance couch at 75% speed today, the chance to survive a couch is like 5-10% :O
So? Straight facts become lies because you think otherwise?if i died with 21 str and 5 if and 57 body armor to one hit,then you are clearly doing something wrong.
if i died with 21 str and 5 if and 57 body armor to one hit,then you are clearly doing something wrong.
Use great lance to couch and stop whining abbout your precius heavy lance.
Bows and swords got nerfed and i don't see too many archers and gs users exept bjord and gtx (who always whine) to bich arrond.
if i died with 21 str and 5 if and 57 body armor to one hit,then you are clearly doing something wrong.
Use great lance to couch and stop whining abbout your precius heavy lance.
Bows and swords got nerfed and i don't see too many archers and gs users exept bjord and gtx (who always whine) to bich arrond.
not only heavy lance, lance and light lance also got nerfed, but the nerf seems balance to me
I wasn't talking about any particluar lance. Couch lancing has been nerfed big time.You need to wait a little. Cpm told they will fix archery super accuracy,so they will probably fix couching and that stuff.
Even great lance with 75 pierce (Wow!? Not) makes much less damage now than prepatch.
Bows and swords got nerfed and i don't see too many archers and gs users exept bjord and gtx (who always whine) to bich arrond.
Yup...won't be such of an issue any more if I miss a shot on a lancer and get stabbed hehe.
Surprised the stab was weakened. HA should have a fun time now.
seriously, i cant even kill a horse archer with my heavy lance any more. what use is in a weapon that does no damage.You better use fauchard on horse now. :D
You better use fauchard on horse now. :D
Light Lance has the same stats as before, at least on the website.
Well, not by the great lance, but by the heavy lance. Seeing as I don't know a single player that is pure great lance on his main.
MW Light lance pre patch = 31 pierce, now it's 30.
Lance got down by 2 damage too.
thats been a while ago afaik
MW Light lance pre patch = 31 pierce, now it's 30.
my stf skilles great lance couching alt tops the scoreboards.
I'm gonna play around a bit as 1H cav.You should try out the 2h bardiche from horseback. Great fun!
The damage difference at low to medium speed is huge. No glancing and more 1 hit kills.
You should try out the 2h bardiche from horseback. Great fun!
Well, not by the great lance, but by the heavy lance. Seeing as I don't know a single player that is pure great lance on his main.
I've changed my mind.
Lancing (atleast with heavy lance) is ridiculous now. I feel harmless and pathetic.
Sure I can still do well but it's getting annoying when the damage output is silly low.
Horse archers get away all the time from thrusts and couch lances that would prepatch one hit kill them.
Same with all light armoured ranged... But especially horse archers have it a lot easier now.
Playing as a lancer now is almost like playing a different game compared to how it was prepatch.
Regular lance is the only way to go now I guess (unless they nerf that one too).
Going horse archer feels quite tempting. Horse archers top the scoreboard on EU_1 all the time now.
I'll hit level 35 in 1,5 million xp. Then I'll just buy training lessons and go for this:(click to show/hide)
You might want to see the accuracy bug fixed before respeccing to HA
2H with 4 shield skill - Especially good if using a longsword as it can be used with shield when needed.I do not recommend it, the 30% (iirc) penalty is extremely noticeable.
I do not recommend it, the 30% (iirc) penalty is extremely noticeable.
the extra reach shouldn't matter. It's all about that damage!The reach is a bit important, as it is the difference with most lances between a Danish right-swinging you off your horse, and a one-hander right-swinging you off. You do want to out-reach as many people as possible, like the old 90 degree broadsides.
Why are people crying about jousting nerf? cav is ridiculous OP still and jousting was a joke, fact that you guys can knockdown anyone every time and not to mention the speed bonus damage you get when swinging at someone.. :| stop whining be glad they didn't nerf cav altogether
If people are talking about respecing cause of this well theres too many cav players anyways. Also becareful you lancer cav guys, if lancer cav is too hard for you you might be surprised how much harder every other build in the game is. If your that bothered just use a shorter lance, so waht some more people with very logn weapons can hit you, 1h cav deals with it on a much more severe level with no problem.
Also as someone who is shot at by archer cav maybe every other round, they do no damage really, i sometimes dont even try to avoid the arrows. But tis fair given how hard they are to kill.
BUFF LANCE CAV
Lance cav doing great... heavy lance cav not so good I'm afraid :wink:Lol you seem happy :lol:
I am happy because everyone was saying how Danish was overused when it dealt 25-30% damage of all 2H swords.
At the same time Heavy Lance dealt 60% damage out of all polearms and very few people pointed that out as a problem.
Now you'll have to find a way to get rid of your Heavy Lances or influence devs to buff them a bit because nerf was truly extreme.
That weapon deserved it, no doubt about that but I don't think that people who used it deserve that harsh punishment.
The imbalance team is bathing in your tears.I'm ok with that, but why nerf the normal attack so badly? HA's laugh at me when I try to kill them now :(
The couch damage modifier has been reduced and the couch-only lances have been buffed to negate that, they should basically do the same damage as before.
I aint getting rid of it, nor will i loose my courser. I hate all of you. dam im pissed. sorry for that. fuck you! sorry. fuck. haha.
schizophrenia is awesome.
I've managed to do well with the heavy lance after the -5 damage nerf.
But I think that this damage difference between lances is too much.
Either nerf regular lance and light lance by 2 damage or buff heavy lance damage by 2.
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I couch lanced a black coat of plates person from behind twice with a mw lance while riding an arabian warhorse at full speed and he didnt die.
nerfing the other lances would render them useless, why wouldya wanna do that. its not a competion between lances, i jsut really want to be able to kill a non armored horse archer again, lance angle nerf already gave them to little of a counter, now this : /
The imbalance team is bathing in your tears.
The couch damage modifier has been reduced and the couch-only lances have been buffed to negate that, they should basically do the same damage as before.
Just got couched by nearly fullspeed courser with Great Lance, didn't die.
Having 0 IF.
:mrgreen:
Riddaren pls learn how to edit your posts :|
I was writing about different things. Also, people don't read if you put all text in one big post.People also stop reading if you post 3 posts in a row... Just saying.
An edited post becomes invalid and untrusted, causing people not to take it serious.
Not that anyone takes anything serious but...
stay on topic.. it indeed seems the nerf needs a little tweaking imo, although have to test a bit more
Good nerf. Finally cav have to figure out why medieval peps started to use different lances than one known as heavy lance. Totally justified. Want good couching ? Take great lance.
And what if I want good poking ?Warspear?
Warspear?
Warspear?
Not being oneshot/reared before you can attack is an implicit requirement for cav, your ironic answer is invalid, although not ironically.
How is it an implicit requirement? Idk if there are no 1 hand cav on europe, but there is alot on NA including me. We can get attacked by people with daggers before we can hit them, and we have no problem doing very well. Dont be stupid by attacking from the front. Complaining about 170 reach or w/e the lance is when people use weapons with 82 reach perfectly fine.You are talking to another 1h cav whore right there Lemmy :D (at least the last time when I saw Kafein on EU1 he was 1h cav?). The difference is that lance cav has insane attack angle limitation. It sets some further requirements for the weapons that you use (and the way you attack. You cant afford to be reared as a lancer). The length is really damn important. Warspear used to be a decent weapon on horseback in the times when there was not yet lance angle nerf. Partly the reason why I mentioned warspear in the first place. It's useless on horse now.
How is it an implicit requirement? Idk if there are no 1 hand cav on europe, but there is alot on NA including me. We can get attacked by people with daggers before we can hit them, and we have no problem doing very well. Dont be stupid by attacking from the front. Complaining about 170 reach or w/e the lance is when people use weapons with 82 reach perfectly fine.