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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: Knute on October 24, 2012, 06:43:01 pm

Title: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Knute on October 24, 2012, 06:43:01 pm
Here's a simple map of who's fighting who at the moment on both sides of the Strategus world.

Red lines mean at war, white lines mean allied (or something like that) and the numbers are people-fiefs.  If there's anything incorrect or missing just lemme know and I'll update it later.

UPDATE: The format of the website changed so it doesn't have a list of every Strategus faction with their fiefs and numbers anymore (both factions with and without fiefs) so that makes it impossible for me to update this chart without that info.  So for the time being I can't update it but might make something new in the future.

EU Out of date, please see: http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/(eu)-compilation-of-maps-and-wars/
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Old maps

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Here's some older versions from March 2012.  You can see how the situation changed on the NA side:

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**Disclaimer: I didn't make any of the animal shapes, they're all stolen or modified clip art.***
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Hobb on October 24, 2012, 07:00:27 pm
Ya the the information seems about right, but the bubbles just dont fit because of their locations and spacing. Also something about the number format reminds me of bible verses.

Would be cool if someone made a literal map with your information.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Gmnotutoo on October 24, 2012, 07:07:02 pm
This is awesome, I was at first confused about who is GSKDDJSNDS but then I realized it was me. :)

I would like to point out I'm a vassal of BIRD CLAN and that I'm actually working with the Ninja Clan at this time.

I'm also super best friends with LLJK and Ildist's & Mates.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: partyboy on October 24, 2012, 07:40:01 pm
I would like to point out I'm a vassal of BIRD CLAN

I am still awaiting tribute in the BIRD CAPITAL of Hawaha.  Gold or troops.  Or both.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Gmnotutoo on October 24, 2012, 07:43:07 pm
As you command, My Lord. I shall find a tribute worthy of your Godship and bring it to you soon.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: partyboy on October 24, 2012, 07:46:57 pm
A fully armed army and enough gold to wipe out LLJK entirely would be preferred.  The desert will be mine.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Gmnotutoo on October 24, 2012, 07:50:19 pm
Yes, My Lord. Even though they are my super best friends, I cannot go against the wishes of a God. You understand what needs to happen better than any of us mortals. I'm sorry, LLJK.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Elindor on October 24, 2012, 07:51:28 pm
Could be cool if you layed this over a very faint map layer of the map, for reference on where they are (and placed each circle in the center of their main territory as best you could, or something).
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Smiling Daemon on October 24, 2012, 08:13:01 pm
hey thanks for this, very helpful. I especially like the Coalition with ??? as we don't know either.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Keshian on October 24, 2012, 08:21:32 pm
Shogunate much smaller than depicted as it seems only 1 man actually fighting against hospitallers, rest are doing their own thing or inactive.  But pretty accurate.  Also, I think you are right we are the only ones curently with a declaration of war on KUTT.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: BaleOhay on October 24, 2012, 08:22:15 pm
Few comments. Bird clan are allied with no one... Everyone owes allegiance to them.

Few things I take from this. Fcc is taking on entity double its size! Kutt needs more reds lines to reflect the white one leading to hosp
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: oprah_winfrey on October 24, 2012, 09:09:01 pm
Is HG rolled up into Remnant on your map?

Also, I didn't realize how big the VE is.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on October 24, 2012, 09:12:21 pm
Shogunate much smaller than depicted as it seems only 1 man actually fighting against hospitallers, rest are doing their own thing or inactive.  But pretty accurate.  Also, I think you are right we are the only ones curently with a declaration of war on KUTT.
Either Shogunate is 1 man(me), or a bunch of guys soloing at this point. Some follow me around just to see what I'm up to :P
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on October 24, 2012, 09:18:08 pm
Here's a simple map of who's fighting who at the moment on the NA side.

Red lines mean at war, white lines mean allied (or something like that) and the numbers are people-fiefs.  If there's anything incorrect or missing just lemme know and I'll update it later.

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Also here's the last strat v3 map I did on 3/23/12:

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Nice data visualization. Would be cool if you created a mathematical formula for calculating circumference/area with the faction population factored in as a variable with the radius to get a more consistent and accurate circle size (with a "base case" for the smallest (1 man) factions so the circle is reasonably visible).
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Havoco on October 24, 2012, 09:19:53 pm
Nice map. Though is de Medici under DL or is it separate?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: LordBerenger on October 24, 2012, 09:26:30 pm
Nice map. Though is de Medici under DL or is it separate?

Braeden still with DL. Wat?


Afaik it's a 2 man clan and they're independent but last i checked he was joining on some Holy Akbar Jihad with Weeaboos to attack you so does it matter lol?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Havoco on October 24, 2012, 09:29:00 pm
Braeden still with DL. Wat?


Afaik it's a 2 man clan and they're independent but last i checked he was joining on some Holy Akbar Jihad with Weeaboos to attack you so does it matter lol?

I was just wondering because de Medici isn't on that plot.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: LordBerenger on October 24, 2012, 09:31:02 pm
I was just wondering because de Medici isn't on that plot.

Did they back out?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Braeden on October 24, 2012, 09:41:50 pm
Medici is not affiliated with anyone.
I was planning on running amok with Khorin, but then there was nothing to run amok against and then I had some time constraints on when I could be in battles, so right now Medici is not really doing anything of import.  Also it is just me again, so my lack of placement on this map is well justified.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Tanken on October 24, 2012, 10:04:07 pm
You may want to add Teutonics as you did Swiss, Teutonics are a vassal under our Faction as well.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Visconti on October 24, 2012, 10:15:46 pm
Shouldnt there be a white line connecting Astralis to Hospi?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Harrys Oil Can on October 24, 2012, 10:18:16 pm
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Was really bored and like drawing random lines on random maps so I did this pos map thing.
If you dont like who you are attacking or allied with then too fing bad!
If you dont have a fief you dont make my map! Dont get a box if you only have 1! Also didnt bother breaking up the vassals.
Fix it if you dun like it!

Oh, and pay your homage to the BIRD king!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: BaleOhay on October 24, 2012, 10:41:50 pm
lljk is allied with FCC?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: LordBerenger on October 24, 2012, 11:06:41 pm
lljk is allied with FCC?

Yep, because Auphelia said so. Remember?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 24, 2012, 11:08:54 pm
The last strat graphic should have had a white bar between HRE and Fallen, those two factions are forever hand-in-hand. Additionally, missing the link between Kapikulu and Fallen. Not sure who you mean by "turks" considering there are the Bashi and the Kapi, I'm assuming Kapi.

Regardless, very nice visual aid!

Also find it amusing that this is essentially 125-26 against 220-42, especially considering the cries earlier against gang-bangs and carebears.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 24, 2012, 11:22:02 pm
Nice map. Though is de Medici under DL or is it separate?

...how many more times am i going to have to answer that question! ARGH I'VE TOLD YOU GUYS 1000 TIMES ALREADY THE ANSWER TO THAT. :evil:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Harrys Oil Can on October 24, 2012, 11:28:20 pm
lljk is allied with FCC?
that is actually bird & fcc i didnt change any allies from the original
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: SittingBull on October 24, 2012, 11:35:47 pm
Shouldnt there be a white line connecting Astralis to Hospi?

Common misconception. Astralis isn't actually allied with anyone. Which is why a lot of the attacks on us make little sense.

We help each other out where we can and merc for each other, because it seems that all the same people tend to dislike both of us. It just makes sense, but it's not because we're allied.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Gristle on October 25, 2012, 01:28:54 am
LLJK needs a red line leading to every faction including itself.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Garem on October 25, 2012, 01:49:22 am
Common misconception. Astralis isn't actually allied with anyone. Which is why a lot of the attacks on us make little sense.

We help each other out where we can and merc for each other, because it seems that all the same people tend to dislike both of us. It just makes sense, but it's not because we're allied.

Smoothrich would disagree, if history is any guide.

Smoothrich also enjoys coloring books and Vin Diesel movies. So there's that, too.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: oprah_winfrey on October 25, 2012, 03:02:59 am
Smoothrich would disagree, if history is any guide.

Smoothrich also enjoys coloring books and Vin Diesel movies. So there's that, too.

If you don't like coloring book and Vin Diesel movies, you are unamerican.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Muki on October 25, 2012, 03:15:44 am
He forgot to mention all of EU and Muki as well, though I am a little more scared of Muki than the UIF (how can you ever be scared of big old carebears, so fuzzy and cuddly) and Muki is pretty intimidating. 

One Man UIF ing this >:D
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Gmnotutoo on October 25, 2012, 03:19:56 am
One Man UIF ing this >:D

But you have two members now.. :(
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Muki on October 25, 2012, 03:24:20 am
But you have two members now.. :(
he not very active :/, than again he was part of NA Shogunate thing
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Keshian on October 25, 2012, 03:38:49 am
that is actually bird & fcc i didnt change any allies from the original

Actually all the clans on map are vassals of BIRD clan, please update map.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Braeden on October 25, 2012, 03:52:28 am
I would like to officially declare that DL is under my command, Anders is my vassal and we are at war with BIRD clan.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Gmnotutoo on October 25, 2012, 04:28:59 am
I would like to officially declare that DL is under my command, Anders is my vassal and we are at war with BIRD clan.

I'll send you to hell.

Edit: That is a beautiful bird put on that map.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Knute on October 25, 2012, 05:41:37 am
It's updated a little bit.  As far as numbers, I'm just going by the ones listed on the website since the number of active players in every clan goes up and down.

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfofaction (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfofaction)

The last strat graphic should have had a white bar between HRE and Fallen, those two factions are forever hand-in-hand. Additionally, missing the link between Kapikulu and Fallen. Not sure who you mean by "turks" considering there are the Bashi and the Kapi, I'm assuming Kapi.

I can't recall but it's possible some Kapikulu were under the name "the Turks" on the strat map at that time.  I put up a couple other old versions of the map in the OP that did show more connections between the Fallen bloc clans but probably removed them because most of them weren't playing and just HRE/Kapikulu were actively backing each other up doing the bandit thing.

Would be cool if you created a mathematical formula for calculating circumference/area with the faction population factored in as a variable with the radius to get a more consistent and accurate circle size (with a "base case" for the smallest (1 man) factions so the circle is reasonably visible).

I don't know how to do that but I'll update this one regularly.  Most people might have missed it but Elmokki made a nice territory map recently:

http://koti.kapsi.fi/elmokki/crpg/maps/ (http://koti.kapsi.fi/elmokki/crpg/maps/)

Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 25, 2012, 05:45:22 am
Oh, Astralis and HP are at peace, or supposed to be anyway.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Gmnotutoo on October 25, 2012, 05:48:22 am
Braeden and I are not really at war. :D
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: PhantomZero on October 25, 2012, 06:24:57 am
I don't recall a peace ever being declared between LLJK and BIRD clan?

I also do not recall a victor being declared in the LLJK civil war, please have a red loop above the LLJK state, thanks.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Taser on October 25, 2012, 11:27:55 pm
Is HG rolled up into Remnant on your map?

Also, I didn't realize how big the VE is.

Yeah its pretty big. That's TKoV, HoC, and MB. Absolutely no idea on how many are actually active though.

I'm surprised too about having 101 people. Snap.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Lordark on October 28, 2012, 09:39:57 am
the Wine is FLOWING in Veluca! Valuca etc.

!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: dodnet on October 28, 2012, 09:54:00 am
You can draw a big red line between Wolpertingers and Union/DRZ too.
Also there's missing a lot of white lines between Nord, DRZ, Grey, Union, Vendetta and Bashis.
And Wataga is at war with almost everyone, they're most likely payed by UIF  :mrgreen:
And war between UDN...whatever and DRZ.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Knute on October 28, 2012, 07:26:06 pm
You can draw a big red line between Wolpertingers and Union/DRZ too.
Also there's missing a lot of white lines between Nord, DRZ, Grey, Union, Vendetta and Bashis.
And Wataga is at war with almost everyone, they're most likely payed by UIF  :mrgreen:
And war between UDN...whatever and DRZ.

Thanks for the info, I definitely don't want to put anyone in a camp they're not part of on the EU side.  The whole UIF and anti-UIF alliances are actually a lot closer in size than I thought they'd be.  On paper the UIF has 492 people and 91 fiefs while the people I'm assuming are anti-UIF have 450 and 77 fiefs.  That's not counting UDNWSFLC either.  I'll probably lump both alliances into larger bubbles once there's more fighting or else it'd be too many red lines.  :P 

Then on the NA side it's 133 people and 23 fiefs vs. somewhere between 272-287 (estimating NA Coalition have 10-15 ppl) with 57 fiefs so a little over 2:1 odds.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Lordark on October 28, 2012, 08:08:58 pm
Fuck this shit im joining Free Peasants!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Nebun on October 29, 2012, 02:13:29 am
Peacebrakers, CotgS, Knights who say NI, Caravan Guild - are also enemies of UIF and in anti UIF alliance.
DenBitre are allies of nords so should really be on the right side.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Bjarky on October 29, 2012, 02:27:55 am
"Yeh!" Bjarky screams meanwhile pulling innocent children out of Nebun's claws.
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Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 29, 2012, 02:28:19 am
Also, why is DL at war with kutt....

I was only hired to attack it, but i'm not at war with them.

Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Lordark on October 29, 2012, 02:38:20 am
ill pay u 50 strat gold to punch yourself in the nuts
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 29, 2012, 02:46:21 am
ill pay u 50 strat gold to punch yourself in the nuts

....are you like butt hurt that I'm working for  money? I mean, hosp had every right to hire me as well. Actually, I've had 'threats' about people trying to kill me, just because I'd sell my army against them.

And I just didn't bother listening to it, and just kept on chugging. Never got hired until Kesh decided to. Had a couple of feelers though.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: KingBread on October 29, 2012, 09:41:13 am
Saudi Arabia ftw
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: [ptx] on October 29, 2012, 09:46:10 am
Haha, nice job sorting the EU diplomacy. You even got UDNWSFLC name right!
Although you could probably draw white lines between all members of either bloc. Also, i guess we are also at war with Grey Order.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 29, 2012, 09:48:41 am
There should be a white line between the Wolves and the Crusaders  :wink:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Malaclypse on October 29, 2012, 10:49:01 am
You can add a white line between CHAOS and The Pale Horsemen, as they are officially our allies. I speak with some authority as one of the top assholes in the former clan.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Casimir on October 29, 2012, 10:55:58 am
Yeah we're considered at war with DRZ for spiking our holy communion wine with nasty Vodka.  Furthermore, for their support of the rskies we're hostile to Union, Grey Order and The Empire.  We're also at War with nordmen because all other EU diplonats are incapable of making a proper treaty thst both parties understand. :)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Andswaru on October 29, 2012, 11:31:54 am
its easy: carebears vrs bearcares with UWOIOEFHEOHF stuck in the middle.

But on a serious note:

Nords are offically at war with:

SoA
Mercs
Deserters
Templars (who write dastardly treaties)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on October 29, 2012, 12:44:14 pm
You can add a white line between CHAOS and The Pale Horsemen, as they are officially our allies. I speak with some authority as one of the top assholes in the former clan.

This.

Also, 10/10 thread.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: ednos on October 29, 2012, 03:44:03 pm
Now that Anders finished his mission, I think DL is no longer allied with FCC (although probably still at war with KUTT).
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 29, 2012, 04:28:16 pm
Now that Anders finished his mission, I think DL is no longer allied with FCC (although probably still at war with KUTT).
I'm not at war with kutt. I'm not going to go out of MY way to attack kutt. I'm not paid for it, so I won't do it. Now if KUTT attacks anything I Own(AKA Ulburban) then I'll fight them for it, but I'm not going to go and force a retrieval.

I'd give it back if kutt came and offered a deal for it. No fighting, just come and offer deal and i give it away. But kutt didn't act and someother things have popped up since then. This war has been...very generous to my mercenary army.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: ednos on October 29, 2012, 04:47:59 pm
I'm not at war with kutt.

Well, you may not be at war with KUTT, but it's a line, not an arrow.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: BaleOhay on October 29, 2012, 08:10:16 pm
Dragoni of Valahia claim Ulburban. Fcc backs this claim. 
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on October 29, 2012, 09:02:16 pm
Indeed, the Dragoni of Valahia (Dracul) claims the village of New Ulburban and will treat it well.


However, the turkish bath houses are now Wallachian slaughter houses.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: fdaslan on October 30, 2012, 08:06:27 pm
With the symbolized faction images it is better now. Thanks!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Segd on October 30, 2012, 08:27:04 pm
Coalition, Kapikulu, Caravan Guild & Peacebreakers are UIF enemies too.
Brodnics, Italica & Nords are allies of UIF.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Teeth on October 30, 2012, 08:50:51 pm
So if there is basically Total War going on between the two alliance blocks, how come there is no actual fighting? How come UIF can take our fiefs in the center and leave few troops without Coalition or Mercs doing anything?

Get of your asses and fight for fucks sake, let us atleast enjoy the good xp from big battles, the only good thing that current Strategus will bring.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Andswaru on October 30, 2012, 09:14:09 pm
Coalition, Kapikulu, Caravan Guild & Peacebreakers are UIF enemies too.
Brodnics, Italica & Nords are allies of UIF.

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Knute on October 30, 2012, 09:36:26 pm
Doh!  I forgot to reconnect a bunch of the red and white lines, I'll fix that and other things later tonight.  Thanks for all the info everyone btw. 

Is the UDNWSFLC still in conflict with Les Trois Lys?  Also is the Alliance faction independent or part of that anti-UIF group?

As far as the DL merc thing, it's basically what Ednos said because Anders still has KUTT's village.  So with merc contracts, if a merc faction is signing up for rosters but not attacking with troops I'll connect them to their employers with white lines and if they're attacking with troops I'll use the red lines.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Olwen on October 30, 2012, 10:20:09 pm
Is the UDNWSFLC still in conflict with Les Trois Lys?  Also is the Alliance faction independent or part of that anti-UIF group?


we're in conflict with everyone, fuck the system
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tanken on October 30, 2012, 11:09:22 pm
Minaswell take Teutonics off of our Vassal list. They bitched out, took everything we gave them (Gear, Fief, Army, Gold etc) and joined FCC's side of the war.


No wonder TKoV panned you guys off to us, they knew you were too childish to handle. Good riddens.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Wesleysnipes on October 30, 2012, 11:19:39 pm
Minaswell take Teutonics off of our Vassal list. They bitched out, took everything we gave them (Gear, Fief, Army, Gold etc) and joined FCC's side of the war.


No wonder TKoV panned you guys off to us, they knew you were too childish to handle. Good riddens.

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Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tanken on October 30, 2012, 11:23:40 pm
You realize, by posting that, you do nothing but hurt yourself?

Anyone with any amount of balls would hand back what they were granted by us, but it's fine Wesley. You don't have the balls as a leader to stand up and talk to me about anything, constantly needed me to hold your hand, and are overall a bad leader. Good luck to you and your men.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Wesleysnipes on October 30, 2012, 11:30:05 pm
You realize, by posting that, you do nothing but hurt yourself?

Anyone with any amount of balls would hand back what they were granted by us, but it's fine Wesley. You don't have the balls as a leader to stand up and talk to me about anything, constantly needed me to hold your hand, and are overall a bad leader. Good luck to you and your men.

Listen Tanken, maybe I would have but you didn't let me finish talking in Team speak before you banned me and my fellow Teutons. After all... Germans are ruthless...
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: oprah_winfrey on October 30, 2012, 11:31:46 pm
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I am just trying to figure out why you would post something that could potentially get you both permabanned...
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: LordBerenger on October 30, 2012, 11:32:08 pm


Your internet sucks btw.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Wesleysnipes on October 30, 2012, 11:39:46 pm
One fief can create so much havoc? (Btw egan, 10USD was for Teutons using KUTTS ts for 2 weeks)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tanken on October 30, 2012, 11:41:04 pm
I am just trying to figure out why you would post something that could potentially get you both permabanned...

The $10 was for the teamspeak they rented in our server, and children (not sure their ages) is just their mentality. No balls is basically what it comes down to.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Orc_Slayer on October 30, 2012, 11:55:09 pm
The $10 was for the teamspeak they rented in our server, and children (not sure their ages) is just their mentality. No balls is basically what it comes down to.
if we are kids then your an infant. Quit whining it's a video game if your so mature then act like it.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Boss_Awesome on October 31, 2012, 12:13:55 am
Indeed, the Dragoni of Valahia (Dracul) claims the village of New Ulburban and will treat it well.


However, the turkish bath houses are now Wallachian slaughter houses.

Luckily, I find both Turkish bath houses and Wallachian slaughter houses to be relaxing. 
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: BaleOhay on October 31, 2012, 12:15:14 am
Kesh is the mafia don.. he made them an offer they could not refuse.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tanken on October 31, 2012, 12:36:58 am
if we are kids then you're an infant. Quit whining it's a video game if you're so mature then act like it.

If you're going to attempt an insult, at least spell it correctly.

No, I get it. You guys only see an endgame of being alive at the end and winning and want to preserve yourselves. That's cool, but at least have the balls to talk to me about it, and give back what is ours if you're going to sneak for the exit. It's the fact you guys do that, after we've been extremely courteous and helpful to you that irks me the most. No tact, and no honor involved with what you did. Hats off, like I said earlier, to Kesh and the other FCC members for buying out friends and vassals and convincing them to throw away the kindness we've done for them for this small instance in which it looks dangerous ahead.

Oh well, gotta pluck a few weeds from the garden before you can tend to your plants, and with Teutonics seeing themselves off, it's just one less babysitting job I gotta do.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Pentecost on October 31, 2012, 12:42:39 am
You realize, by posting that, you do nothing but hurt yourself?

Anyone with any amount of balls would hand back what they were granted by us, but it's fine Wesley. You don't have the balls as a leader to stand up and talk to me about anything, constantly needed me to hold your hand, and are overall a bad leader. Good luck to you and your men.

Considering your faction's current diplomatic and military situation, should you really be criticizing other people's leadership? If you're going to sever ties with the Teutonics in the middle of a major war, then you should at least give everyone the specifics on what went down with them so that KUTT doesn't lose face as a result.

From what has been said so far, it sounds like you took on vassals of questionable loyalty and either misjudged or did not take the time to determine whether they were trustworthy, gave them enough money and weapons so that you no longer had a monopoly on force over them, and reacted with surprise when they got out of Dodge as soon as you started losing territory. Is this incorrect? Because if it isn't, you should be blaming yourself and the members of your clan who supported your decisions for how things turned out, not the Teutonics for acting in their own interest.

Give us your side of the story; Wesley can give us his, and we can then judge who did wrong by the other.



Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on October 31, 2012, 12:43:53 am

Kesh is the mafia don.. he made them an offer they could not refuse.

You better kiss the ring...
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: BeastSVK on October 31, 2012, 01:02:04 am
WRONG!! VEndeta isnt UIF..they are Pets of Druzina ;) all they have done so far is druzina job ;) vendeta without druzina will be wiped down...
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: ednos on October 31, 2012, 01:39:28 am
I know defending KUTT or Tanken is going to get me truckloads of Infamy votes, and it's going to look weird considering the drama SWF created at the beginning of Strategus Round 4, but watching people post absolute nonsense and get Renown for it just because it's anti-KUTT or anti-Tanken makes me feel the same as listening to fundamentalists criticize science and get rounds of "Amen! Preach it, brother!" from their comrades in ignorance. For the love of reason, please read what you write before you post it. Everyone will feel better without all the negativity.

Considering your faction's current diplomatic and military situation, should you really be criticizing other people's leadership?

Tanken admitted to making mistakes, as a leader, and those mistakes are well-documented. The mistake he is accusing the Teutonic leadership of making--taking advantage of KUTT generosity as friends, then treating them cold as ice--could not be more different than his mistakes. That is why he is qualified to point them out. Before you jump to calling someone a hypocrite, maybe you should take a little time to think about what hypocrisy means.

If you're going to sever ties with the Teutonics in the middle of a major war, then you should at least give everyone the specifics on what went down with them so that KUTT doesn't lose face as a result.

I'm pretty sure it's the other way around. Teutonic severed their ties with KUTT. Unfortunately, KUTT will still lose face, as you suggested, because morons will still vote KUTT posts down and post arguments that seem strung together almost at random until they retreat from the thread from sheer exhaustion.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on October 31, 2012, 01:40:11 am
Does anyone remember that this thread belongs to this knute guy to show off his chart thing he made, i thought there were like 3 other drama threads?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 31, 2012, 01:40:45 am
Does anyone remember that this thread belongs to this knute guy to show off his chart thing he made, i thought there were like 3 other drama threads?


This, so sod of and make your own threads.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Orc_Slayer on October 31, 2012, 01:49:50 am
I know defending KUTT or Tanken is going to get me truckloads of Infamy votes, and it's going to look weird considering the drama SWF created at the beginning of Strategus Round 4, but watching people post absolute nonsense and get Renown for it just because it's anti-KUTT or anti-Tanken makes me feel the same as listening to fundamentalists criticize science and get rounds of "Amen! Preach it, brother!" from their comrades in ignorance. For the love of reason, please read what you write before you post it. Everyone will feel better without all the negativity.

Tanken admitted to making mistakes, as a leader, and those mistakes are well-documented. The mistake he is accusing the Teutonic leadership of making--taking advantage of KUTT generosity as friends, then treating them cold as ice--could not be more different than his mistakes. That is why he is qualified to point them out. Before you jump to calling someone a hypocrite, maybe you should take a little time to think about what hypocrisy means.

I'm pretty sure it's the other way around. Teutonic severed their ties with KUTT. Unfortunately, KUTT will still lose face, as you suggested, because morons will still vote KUTT posts down and post arguments that seem strung together almost at random until they retreat from the thread from sheer exhaustion.
no one has also heard our side of the story. We explained to KUTT what was going on. We were also upfront about it and told them the situation and what we were offered. Tanken didn't even give us time to explain ourselves he banned us from the ts and came straight onto the forums calling us children and such. Strategus is all about strategy it's just like risk. How we choose to participate in strategus is up to us and we chose to do what was best in our interest. Alot of people would of done the same.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: TugBoat on October 31, 2012, 01:59:40 am
If I am known for anything I hope it's for my honesty. I will give an honest unbiased perspective of what happened.

Teutonic was very upfront about the offer they received, and they were also very upfront about that they were considering the offer. I appreciate this instead of a sudden and unexpected betrayal like with Fallen.

That being said, We gifted Teutonic a fief when we didn't have to. They claim to have "Earned" most of what they have in their army (We gave them most of it). Tell me Teutonic, how easy would it have been to earn this without KUTT's S&D and the free village we gave you? and the troops? Clearly they are in debt to us financially, and in support wise. We took them under our wing and made their fief a top priority in the defense against BRD. They were given the opportunity to betray our trust and friendship, they considered it, openly discussing it with us, and then took the offer. Sure it was a dick move, but at least they weren't sneeky about it.

When they made a decision about the offer. They came to myself and Tanken, and said and I quote "We are going independent. You can either join us and serve us, or you can ROT."

Is this how you treat a friend who helped you get on their feet? Gave them a free place to meet and talk with eachother ((teamspeak)), fought many battles with them? Gave them financial aid and aid in numbers? They refused to pay us anything back and decided to keep the fief we gifted to them.

I banned them, all of them, for seven days. It was not done out of malice. I figured they had explained themselves enough, and I wanted to give them a break to avoid them getting flamed by our own upset members. I think this was fair, wise, and prudent.


TL;DR - Quit Hating on KUTT and BOAT clan, we're cool
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: ednos on October 31, 2012, 02:01:23 am
I'm not taking sides in the conflict; I'm complaining about how awful people are handling anything having to do with KUTT in the forums in general. I was exceedingly clear that those were Tanken's accusations, not mine, and that my issue was with the dogmatic attachment to opposing KUTT no matter what its members say.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tanken on October 31, 2012, 02:01:43 am
no one has also heard our side of the story. We explained to KUTT what was going on. We were also upfront about it and told them the situation and what we were offered. Tanken didn't even give us time to explain ourselves he banned us from the ts and came straight onto the forums calling us children and such. Strategus is all about strategy it's just like risk. How we choose to participate in strategus is up to us and we chose to do what was best in our interest. Alot of people would of done the same.

Let's set the story straight. I didn't ban you, I wanted to talk to you more. Tugboat deleted your channel (that you guys never paid for) in our teamspeak and banned you before I could get a word in otherwise. Wesley basically pulled us aside and said, "Teutonics are going to become their own faction in strategus. You guys are welcome to join us, or you will be left to rot" (these are the exact words). "So, I guess that's that." and when I asked if he'd be returning the fief or my army to me he got defensive, said it was his, however, if you look at the Strategus Faction you're in--it clearly says Knights Union of the Tundra Territories. Also, you guys have only paid a total of 65,000 strategus gold to me, whereas I have given nearly 60,000 of my own strategus gold into gear for you guys, not to mention the gold I sent with Holiday/Skinboat (whoever last came) and the troops as well.

My biggest problem is your leadership and members' lack of tact and honor when it came to going about this. Telling a clan that helped you get feet, didn't require you to do anything to be granted a fief, and helped you more than you helped yourself that "they can be left to rot." is pretty demeaning and pretty rude considering all that we've done for you. I sent you guys reinforcements that could have been sent to Rebache, Karindi, Reyvadin, Ulburban, the list goes on and on, but I didn't want to see you guys lose the only fief we had granted you simply because I didn't back you as much as I could.


Like I said in the screenshot, it's nice to see how I am repaid. Had Wesley and Orc gone about it with more tact and been more mature about the way you addressed the situation, then yeah, it wouldn't be a big deal. Also, let's not pretend that Wesley didn't give out all of our strategy information to FCC about 3 weeks ago. I purposely told him false information with detail, and within two hours, that same information was making its way back up the pipeline from FCC members.


So, in short, do as you will. But I would have appreciated you shown a bit more honor and maturity, and at the very least returned the fiefs and army you used of ours and now possess because we supported you. Then again, backstabbing and immaturity seems to run fairly rampant in Strategus, I'm guilty of it myself at times, so I'm sure you guys will fit right in here.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Keshian on October 31, 2012, 02:13:35 am


 Also, let's not pretend that Wesley didn't give out all of our strategy information to FCC about 3 weeks ago. I purposely told him false information with detail, and within two hours, that same information was making its way back up the pipeline from FCC members.


100% made up bullshit.  Until I tlked with Teutons yesterday by pm on the forums I had never talked with any teuton member.  No information was leaked to us.  Stop making shit up.  They made a solid decision in the best interest of their clan based on KUTT not showing adequate leadership or any positive direction.  Also, not everyone wants to spend all of Strategus as a vassal to a failing clan led by an autocratic leader.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: MURDERTRON on October 31, 2012, 02:26:18 am
I didn't even know the Teutonics existed until today.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 31, 2012, 02:40:46 am
Tuetons are the clan that's made up of member who have switched sides about 6 times within 2 strats just to keep what they hold.

Anyways,
@KNUTE I don't own Ulburban anymore, someone else bought(more like gave me the 20k gold that was in it so i didn't have to run up there for it)  it from me. As of now, any, and everything to do with kutt is out of my hands. Dracul now officially has a fief graciously donated to them from me...ok maybe not, but they have a fief and welcome them to the party.

Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: TurmoilTom on October 31, 2012, 02:44:05 am
I wonder if it's a coincidence that Dracul has my old fief, considering Artyem hates my guts.  :|

At least I still have my bridges.  8-)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: TugBoat on October 31, 2012, 02:53:59 am
100% made up bullshit.  Until I tlked with Teutons yesterday by pm on the forums I had never talked with any teuton member.  No information was leaked to us.  Stop making shit up.  They made a solid decision in the best interest of their clan based on KUTT not showing adequate leadership or any positive direction.  Also, not everyone wants to spend all of Strategus as a vassal to a failing clan led by an autocratic leader.

I assume by failing clan you mean BOAT clan, and autocratic leader you mean TugBOAT. I'll have you know that BOAT clan is going strong, still. FCC has approached us with an offer. They are going to trade us 2 villages and 30,000 gold and we're going to give them 1000 troops and leave as a sub clan of KUTT and become our own independent faction.

Sorry KUTT, but clearly you're so unorganized and fail so hard because a faction with 10x as many members as you attacked you and got most of your well armed traders in transit before you had a chance to organize and respond. BOAT clan is moving on to bigger and better things. We are tired of this autocracy. BOAT clan will now be a republic, where all members (Myself, and TugBUTT) will vote equally on all decisions. We will be completely organized and the rivers will flow with milk and honey.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Orc_Slayer on October 31, 2012, 02:56:30 am
Tuetons are the clan that's made up of member who have switched sides about 6 times within 2 strats just to keep what they hold.

really who?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 31, 2012, 03:59:07 am
really who?

AoW, Acre(x2), now Teutonic. Also, AoW changed sides 2-3 times strat 3 before finishing up on the side of Red.

Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Orc_Slayer on October 31, 2012, 04:04:59 am
AoW, Acre(x2), now Teutonic. Also, AoW changed sides 2-3 times strat 3 before finishing up on the side of Red.
aow wasnt acre. 7 of us participated in the last strat we joined chaos and didnt do anything at  all. so i dont see where you getting this from?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Rikthor on October 31, 2012, 05:10:59 am
Hey nerds, stop shitting up the thread. Go wave your dicks in another thread about who did what, who betrayed who, and let Knute have his thread to do alliances/enemies.

Good lord, the world is coming to an end when I have to be the voice of reason and not troll.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on October 31, 2012, 05:15:09 am
I wonder if it's a coincidence that Dracul has my old fief, considering Artyem hates my guts.  :|

At least I still have my bridges.  8-)


I don't hate anyone, or anything.  I don't care what you did before, or what group you were involved with.  I don't care who you are or what you are.  You only made one mistake.


You used turkish bath houses.  scum...
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Holiday203 on October 31, 2012, 05:20:19 am
I AM FRIENDS WITH EVERYONE......... LEAVE ME BE!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: TurmoilTom on October 31, 2012, 05:20:35 am
I don't hate anyone, or anything.  I don't care what you did before, or what group you were involved with.  I don't care who you are or what you are.  You only made one mistake.


You used turkish bath houses.  scum...

You've made it clear in the past that you disliked me because I used to be in the Kingdom of Haven, but I guess that as long as you don't think that way now all's good.

Also, Turkish bath houses are the bomb. I don't know what world you're living in.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tanken on October 31, 2012, 05:51:51 am
Let's move this discussion to the Hospitaller and KUTT thread thing.

Oh and besides the removal of Teutonics from our Vassal list, recount our members. I think we're at 38...?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Bill Crispy on October 31, 2012, 01:00:14 pm
WOW, who is that awesome faction with that orange goats-symbol?
looks so nice!

i think all other factions should voluntarily become vassals of 'em! AND ALL SHALL PRAISE MORK, THE MIGHTY GOAT GOD
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: bredeus on October 31, 2012, 01:32:14 pm
The picture is outdated. We are only spreading love atm.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: dodnet on October 31, 2012, 01:49:13 pm
WOW, who is that awesome faction with that orange goats-symbol?

I always have to smile when I see that you wrote your own faction name wrong in your info:

Quote
Werfired´s Peasant Batallion
   :mrgreen:


There's a green and a red LLJK?  :lol:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Rikthor on October 31, 2012, 02:53:04 pm
There's a green and a red LLJK?  :lol:

Yes, we are always fighting ourselves in a civil war.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Smoothrich on November 01, 2012, 02:58:50 am
if anyones keeping track still, Hero_Party is no longer at war with Astralis or Hospitallers, and is at war with NA Coalition
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 01, 2012, 03:03:24 am
I don't think SWF is at war with Kutt anymore...I mean they been mercing for KUTT a few times during the war.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 01, 2012, 05:35:07 am
Teutonic Knights and Coalition are now allies.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Bill Crispy on November 01, 2012, 10:09:12 am
haha, dodnet, thx for info! (was also laughing^^)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: ArysOakheart on November 01, 2012, 06:17:28 pm
Nice work Peasant Knute, your photoshop abilities have always been excellent.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: kinngrimm on November 01, 2012, 06:57:19 pm
thanks for the update,
I love this map!

On the site of EU
"The Coalition" I believe Great Khans(GK) are missing. And while Fallen/HRE/GK are the "The Coallition" as entity and joined in one strategus faction, Kapikulu and Saudi Arabia would then be allied to that entity "The Coallition"!? or to one of those clans?

Also The Empire, if i am not mistaken consists out of Bashi and Warpigs? Are Ravens still there as crpg clan and just joinded strat faction "The Empire" or have they been eaten by Bashi completly?

I guess there may be more examples like that on EU side, where clans are in the same faction, but can't think of anyone else quite now.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: ednos on November 02, 2012, 02:04:02 am
SWF is in a permanent state of war with the owner of New Ismirala, whoever that may be, until we control it.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tanken on November 02, 2012, 02:30:33 am
SWF is in a permanent state of war with the owner of New Ismirala, whoever that may be, until we control it.

((Go get em! It's really weak atm!))
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: HardRice on November 02, 2012, 02:58:54 am
Awww you even added my humble little faction, how nice of you.  :)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Muki on November 02, 2012, 03:23:30 am
Exile now allies/merged with hero party and are now officially allied to japanese school girl ninjas

not at war with anyone through



(If possible can we keep our Sakura Pink? on your map)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: ednos on November 02, 2012, 03:39:05 am
FYI, CHAOS and The Pale Horsemen both posted that they are allies in their respective Kill-Tears threads.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 02, 2012, 04:03:25 am
FYI, CHAOS and The Pale Horsemen both posted that they are allies in their respective Kill-Tears threads.
Are people thinking I'm making all the executive decisions and am in command of the NA side of the Coalition? o_O
Or am I simply that handsome out of all the Coalition, and you want to mount me on your wall? ;)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 02, 2012, 04:04:00 am
Are people thinking I'm making all the executive decisions and am in command of the NA side of the Coalition? o_O

Yes. You making the post makes you the "leader"
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 02, 2012, 04:11:27 am
Yes. You making the post makes you the "leader"
I thought it made me the messenger, heh.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Goretooth on November 02, 2012, 04:16:18 am
I thought it made me the messenger, heh.
kill the messenger?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 02, 2012, 04:18:01 am
kill the messenger?


Well, easy enough to draw agro then from the rest of the Fallen!  :lol:
Amusing, either way.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Gmnotutoo on November 02, 2012, 04:21:37 am
Exile now allies/merged with hero party

not at war with anyone through

:( I hope you enjoy your decision. We could have been exiled japanese school girl ninjas together.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Muki on November 02, 2012, 04:23:05 am
:( I hope you enjoy your decision. We could have been exiled japanese school girl ninjas together.

): sorry, but hero party asked first... you make me regret everything T.T
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Gmnotutoo on November 02, 2012, 04:26:19 am
): sorry, but hero party asked first... you make me regret everything T.T

Noes, I asked you first! Here is the quote:

Seems I am being force to pick a side in this war.

Should I Bear arms with my Fallen friends?

Or just go bowling with the horsemen?

You can join me in whatever the hell I'm doing now. :D

Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Muki on November 02, 2012, 04:27:49 am
Can we still be friends :) or better yet allies ;D
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Gmnotutoo on November 02, 2012, 04:29:31 am
Okies Muki-chan!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Goretooth on November 02, 2012, 04:31:57 am
psshhh muki be mine
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Muki on November 02, 2012, 06:56:41 am
Why the hell  New Ismirala is on the map?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 02, 2012, 06:58:01 am
Remnant is at war with us, what? Where was that mentioned?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Knute on November 02, 2012, 07:47:10 am
Why the hell  New Ismirala is on the map?

SWF is in a permanent state of war with the owner of New Ismirala, whoever that may be, until we control it.

I'm not sure if the threat is real but Teutonic Knights could give it to him to be safe.  The current NA chart is just temporary though.

Remnant is at war with us, what? Where was that mentioned?

Oops, is Ayyike just a village transfer?  I glanced at the battles list before updating and haven't caught up on the forum yet.

Also, is Remnant's contract with the FCC still in effect?  Just wondering because the thread was locked.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 02, 2012, 07:56:58 am
Clarification:


Remnants and Coalition are not at war.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: dodnet on November 02, 2012, 09:42:49 am
Rumors... thats how wars are started  :mrgreen:

UDNWSFLC is at war with Mercs now  :?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: GRANDMOM on November 02, 2012, 09:50:20 am
I saw it in the upcoming battles, I just cant understand why it had to come to this....do u know?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Perverz on November 02, 2012, 09:57:54 am
tnx to lolwen
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: GRANDMOM on November 02, 2012, 09:59:47 am
What strategic superduperuber plan did he come up wit this time?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Perverz on November 02, 2012, 10:03:25 am
epic one...he give his last fief to greys.......
i dont know details since im left faction 2 weeks ago
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Gnjus on November 02, 2012, 10:06:03 am
The way i see it: Mercs allied with UIF in wiping the NSFW party.  :wink:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: GRANDMOM on November 02, 2012, 10:17:42 am
I also left the clan about two weeks ago or so, friends with the greys....smart move

mercs allied to the UIF to get the Liberators....hmmm....u may need to polish that theory a bit, give it a carusell ride inside your cranium a couple of times and get back to us
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Knute on November 02, 2012, 10:18:51 am
Remnants and Coalition are not at war.

I'm sorry about that little mistake, on the upside you won't need coffee for a week.

From here on out, I'll calm down on the updating especially when it comes to drawing new red lines unless there's an official announcement or message from clans involved.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: [ptx] on November 02, 2012, 10:50:36 am
I also left the clan about two weeks ago or so, friends with the greys....smart move

mercs allied to the UIF to get the Liberators....hmmm....u may need to polish that theory a bit, give it a carusell ride inside your cranium a couple of times and get back to us

You could've informed us about leaving... y'kno, just saying.

Friends with the Greys? Oh, yes, as great friends with them as we are with Mercs right now. Best buddies forever.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: GRANDMOM on November 02, 2012, 11:30:46 am
I acually sent my resignation to OLWEN at this date:

Wolves_LW_GRANDMOM
To:Olwen_Lamhban
Sent:26/10/2012 13:31:23


I will not reveal the contents of the letter but here are the lines:

Your letter just convinced me to leave the clan, I just realised that nothing will happen here.

I had been nagging about us doing something about the current situation (before the UIF attack), diplomacy, gathering troops, buying gear with our gold just lying around doing nothing good, arming Reindi castle, ask for help, anything, something! But............nothing

If not friends with the Greys, and not with the mercs......who are your friends? Noone? Howcome?




Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: [ptx] on November 02, 2012, 11:35:01 am
We have friends, but we will not reveal them at this point. I had posted on forums, saying that important things would happen and were being planned, but they were exclusively on skype for security reasons.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: GRANDMOM on November 02, 2012, 01:04:30 pm
Well I wish u good luck with that, no hard feelings from my side, and I hope u have non against me.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Gnjus on November 02, 2012, 02:27:01 pm
Well I wish u good luck with that, no hard feelings from my side, and I hope u have non against me.

No worries Grandmom, if you're not too old and dried up and if your tits are not bellow your belly I'd still hit you with all I've got.  :wink:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Falka on November 02, 2012, 02:46:59 pm
No worries Grandmom, if you're not too old and dried up and if your tits are not bellow your belly I'd still hit you with all I've got.  :wink:
She's Grandmom, ofc her breasts are bellow her belly. Silly Gnjus  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: GRANDMOM on November 02, 2012, 03:32:00 pm
No worries Grandmom, if you're not too old and dried up and if your tits are not bellow your belly I'd still hit you with all I've got.  :wink:

U werent to touchy about my kneebreasts last time i schmacked em in your face for touching my longitude ass, were you? :lol:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Gnjus on November 02, 2012, 04:22:50 pm
U werent to touchy about my kneebreasts last time i schmacked em in your face for touching my longitude ass, were you? :lol:

I guess they hit me like cannonballs, I was completely unaware.  :wink:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: ednos on November 03, 2012, 01:47:27 am
Are people thinking I'm making all the executive decisions and am in command of the NA side of the Coalition? o_O
Or am I simply that handsome out of all the Coalition, and you want to mount me on your wall? ;)

No, but you argue with more people on the forums about Strategus than the rest of your faction combined, so for us noobs who don't actually have any experience with the game, you are the face of the Coalition.

I'm not sure if the threat is real but Teutonic Knights could give it to him to be safe.  The current NA chart is just temporary though.

I appreciate you taking SWF seriously. The threats are only empty because we're incompetent, not because we don't intend to take it at the earliest possible opportunity.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Nightingale on November 03, 2012, 03:16:56 am
You don't have to take me seriously, but You should make a bubble in the middle. A purple one same color as KUTT, but just name the bubble "Desire" and make it allied to everything Kthx.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Casimir on November 03, 2012, 05:24:14 am
No, but you argue with more people on the forums about Strategus than the rest of your faction combined, so for us noobs who don't actually have any experience with the game, you are the face of the Coalition.

you (being the 'noob' you are) clearly fail to appreciate how much of a forum whore tears is, bless him he keeps on rolling no matter wowwet.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Sauce on November 07, 2012, 02:32:57 am
bump
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Elindor on November 07, 2012, 10:29:13 pm
bump

If you insist.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Casimir on November 08, 2012, 02:13:51 pm
This should be updated to reflect the effect of cheaters being banned.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Osiris on November 08, 2012, 02:16:52 pm
well it sort of is :D if you check out the faction numbers from the map on 1/11 and the new one you can see how many members they have lost
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Casimir on November 08, 2012, 05:18:48 pm
I think the banhammer faction should be added, after all they seem to have done the most damage
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Segd on November 11, 2012, 07:57:59 am
Lol, UIF is almost twise smaller than Anti-UIF(counting PeaceBreakers & Caravan Guard) + UDNWSFLC. Didn't count Union, Vendetta & Legione Italica since they gone inactive.

I'm waiting to defend our last stand Shariz against all this hordes at the end of the Strat 5 :)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: BASNAK on November 11, 2012, 09:34:12 am
Love the icons for UDF :D

Lol, UIF is almost twise smaller than Anti-UIF(counting PeaceBreakers & Caravan Guard) + UDNWSFLC. Didn't count Union, Vendetta & Legione Italica since they gone inactive.

I'm waiting to defend our last stand Shariz against all this hordes at the end of the Strat 5 :)

Then after that no more anti UIF will be needed, and strat can be played like its supposed to be played.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Segd on November 11, 2012, 10:38:37 am
Love the icons for UDF :D

Then after that no more anti UIF will be needed, and strat can be played like its supposed to be played.
Yep. On Strat 5 DRZ would fight against Ninjas again  :wink:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Casimir on November 11, 2012, 04:22:41 pm
'gone inactive'

Lol that's one way of putting it segd...
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Segd on November 11, 2012, 04:57:27 pm
'gone inactive'

Lol that's one way of putting it segd...
Well they are not all got banned:
The Union   52
Vendetta   15
So yes, they gone inactive.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Rhalzo on November 11, 2012, 11:41:38 pm
The Pale Horsemen have reverted back to our older name of Fuck It Dude, Let's Go Bowling (FIDLGB for short).
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Casimir on November 12, 2012, 02:10:40 am
Well they are not all got banned:
The Union   52
Vendetta   15
So yes, they gone inactive.

It's convention to describe the actions of a group by the majority, not the minority.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Wesleysnipes on November 14, 2012, 04:45:15 pm
(Teutonic Knights, NA) Trade partners: FCC, Coalition, Remnant, Swords with friends.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Muki on November 15, 2012, 01:38:40 am
(Teutonic Knights, NA) Trade partners: FCC, Coalition, Remnant, Swords with friends.

I don't think those counts as alliances
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Rhalzo on November 18, 2012, 11:16:10 pm
FIDLGB still has 3 fiefs, we reclaimed one and the other 2 will be back in our possession within the next week.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: partyboy on November 19, 2012, 12:33:25 am
nice
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Arathian on November 20, 2012, 09:21:54 am
So, we are allied with the coalition that is at war with chaos and FIDLGB....are we are war with them?

Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 20, 2012, 10:12:45 am
I think everyone has given up, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Technically Hero Party is also under the false impression that we are 'at war,' heh...
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Vovka on November 20, 2012, 10:14:01 am
Americans! Join UIF!  :P
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 20, 2012, 10:15:19 am
Americans! Join UIF!  :P
What's in it for me?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Arathian on November 20, 2012, 10:46:52 am
What's in it for me?

I heard they give free cookies.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Havoco on November 20, 2012, 10:52:40 am
The only way ur gonna get tears to go UIF is if u give him all the seasons of supernatural on Blu ray.

Come to think of it, I Wouldn't mind it either.

Get on it Vovka!


Btw, why does eu get all those cewl icons and NA gets circles and ovals?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Rhalzo on November 20, 2012, 06:26:01 pm
So, we are allied with the coalition that is at war with chaos and FIDLGB....are we are war with them?

I think everyone has given up, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Technically Hero Party is also under the false impression that we are 'at war,' heh...

FIDLGB is back to rebuilding right now. We probably won't pursue any hostilities for the time being.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Wesleysnipes on November 20, 2012, 08:38:38 pm
FIDLGB is back to rebuilding right now. We probably won't pursue any hostilities for the time being.

In other words; rebuild then declare war on us?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 20, 2012, 09:56:04 pm
In other words; rebuild then declare war on us?


That is how I read it too, so in that case War is still merrily in effect.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tore on November 20, 2012, 10:01:56 pm
I heard they give free cd keys.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Muki on November 21, 2012, 01:12:08 am
bird clan looks so sexy in this
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: partyboy on November 21, 2012, 01:21:51 am
I need to check this thread more often that is stunning.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Harrys Oil Can on November 21, 2012, 04:35:14 am
Hero party is at war with LLJK please fix accordingly.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Nightingale on November 21, 2012, 04:51:54 am
 :cry: I still see no "Desire" middle map allied to everything fix your mistake now!

I like the idea of this map thing keeps me up to date on most of the crazy diplomacy, that and Kesh.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Wesleysnipes on November 26, 2012, 08:38:34 pm
I think we need an update for NA. Introducing TAMDA :D
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Segd on November 26, 2012, 09:44:03 pm
Union, Vendetta, Empire, Italica are gone. Peacebreakers & Caravan Guard are still UIF enemies.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: LordBerenger on November 26, 2012, 10:21:25 pm
Union, Vendetta, Empire, Italica are gone. Peacebreakers & Caravan Guard are still UIF enemies.

Empire and Legio still seems to be on the map :l
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Bjarky on November 26, 2012, 10:28:15 pm
Union, Vendetta, Empire, Italica are gone. Peacebreakers & Caravan Guard are still UIF enemies.
True.
+ Banditos are friends of UIF and enemies of anti-UIF.
+ The Brotherhood and Les Ecorcheurs are vassals of Wolves.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Segd on November 26, 2012, 11:11:20 pm
Empire and Legio still seems to be on the map :l
They are on the map, but they are inactive. I think Legio was active only for about a week. We gave them few fiefs & then they disappeared  :(
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: LordBerenger on November 27, 2012, 12:20:47 am
They are on the map, but they are inactive. I think Legio was active only for about a week. We gave them few fiefs & then they disappeared  :(

Aww what a pity. Now i want to join UIF to replace them and fight evil Niemand chocolate chip cookies.


But Empire though? They are active aren't they lol? They got lots of fiefs.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Casimir on November 27, 2012, 02:14:52 am
Aww what a pity. Now i want to join UIF to replace them and fight evil Niemand chocolate chip cookies.


But Empire though? They are active aren't they lol? They got lots of fiefs.

welcome to eu strat, everyone got bored by all ze block building.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Havoco on November 27, 2012, 02:42:58 am
Sounds like EU could use more Legos.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: BASNAK on November 27, 2012, 08:09:41 am
UIF Logic:

Make a bigass alliance, forcing everyone else to form a counter alliance. -> Get bored of block alliances -> Go inactive/quit?

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Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on November 27, 2012, 10:13:22 am
UIF Logic:

Make a bigass alliance, forcing everyone else to form a counter alliance. -> Get bored of block alliances -> Go inactive/quit?

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+1'd for costanza
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Falka on November 27, 2012, 10:29:48 am
So now UIF consists of DRZ, GO and NOrds? That's not fair  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Casimir on November 27, 2012, 12:00:50 pm
Yeah poor uif. cant win with multi accounting, cant win without it...
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 27, 2012, 12:03:34 pm
So now UIF consists of DRZ, GO and NOrds? That's not fair  :rolleyes:


Don't worry, Steam is having their usual holiday sales  :wink:
I expect the UIF to fully recover within the year.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Falka on November 27, 2012, 12:12:48 pm

Don't worry, Steam is having their usual holiday sales  :wink:
I expect the UIF to fully recover within the year.

YEAR???  :cry:

BTW, why UIF don't provide their TS number before battles? I wanted to participate in some battles on their side but don't know their TS and when I applied I wasn't accepted. They don't want randomers in their battles?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: LordBerenger on November 27, 2012, 02:31:39 pm
YEAR???  :cry:

BTW, why UIF don't provide their TS number before battles? I wanted to participate in some battles on their side but don't know their TS and when I applied I wasn't accepted. They don't want randomers in their battles?

Because they mostly only hire/recruit/accept members of UIF factions.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: dodnet on November 27, 2012, 02:49:13 pm
You can savely remove The Roaming Wolpertingers from the chart. I'm the last one left on strat and I'm not doing much anyways.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Casimir on November 27, 2012, 03:17:47 pm
You can savely remove The Roaming Wolpertingers from the chart. I'm the last one left on strat and I'm not doing much anyways.

Glory to the wolpertingers!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Falka on November 27, 2012, 03:33:46 pm
Because they mostly only hire/recruit/accept members of UIF factions.
And later they are suprised that they can not fill the roster late at night...  :wink:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Bjarky on November 27, 2012, 04:31:33 pm
And later they are suprised that they can not fill the roster late at night...  :wink:
they only take u in if u are on their ts 30mins before battletime for rosterchecks. u can pm one of their guys about ts and pw.
i participated i a good bunch of their NPC/neutral battles in last strat and it was very enjoyable  :)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Knute on November 28, 2012, 02:15:42 am
Btw, why does eu get all those cewl icons and NA gets circles and ovals?

I was making something different for the NA chart but got busy with other stuff before going on vacation.  It's probably going to either have little silhouettes of warriors or miniature wargame style (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6mDCi7F4K7c/Tw3EVtFGAJI/AAAAAAAAAIc/PiKFt4PSql4/s1600/28mm_Teutonic_wargame_knights_miniatures_decals_transfers_charge_.jpg) pawns used to show clan size.  Anyway, I'll add the banners to the NA chart when I update it tonight though since the other thing could take a little more time to setup.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tanken on November 28, 2012, 02:36:40 am
By the way we're down to 24 members and 2 fiefs now. Of those 24, 15 are active. A few just got deployed overseas.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: ArysOakheart on November 28, 2012, 06:14:16 am
I don't think people realize how objective Knute is here. He hasn't even added a picture for his own clan on NA!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Malaclypse on November 28, 2012, 08:28:28 am
Yeah, Knute's doing a bang up job. I'm confident that when the banner additions NA side are done it'll be an awesome sight, and for that I don't mind a wait.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on November 28, 2012, 08:52:43 am
Yeah, much respect and love to Knute for doing this. We sure do appreciate it.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Wesleysnipes on November 30, 2012, 04:37:06 pm
Job well done Knute, looks very good!  :D
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Muki on November 30, 2012, 10:27:39 pm
Nice update to the chart
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Rhalzo on November 30, 2012, 11:10:26 pm
Awesome job Knute, the charts are looking great.

Also, I think you can take off the war lines between Fallen and the other clans on the NA side (That's what I got from this at least (http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/coalition-diplomacy-update-(euna)/))
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 30, 2012, 11:13:16 pm
Awesome job Knute, the charts are looking great.

Also, I think you can take off the war lines between Fallen and the other clans on the NA side (That's what I got from this at least (http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/coalition-diplomacy-update-(euna)/))

Everyone but Hero_Party who still has their war declaration on us which we have yet to accept, so perhaps a one-way arrow?  :wink:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Nightingale on November 30, 2012, 11:13:27 pm
Awesome Knute! I am proud of my little bubble. :lol:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on December 01, 2012, 01:05:34 am
DRACUL pledges allegiance to GODKING PARTYBOY of BIRD.  We hereby accept loyal authority as vassals of the glorious BIRD CLAN.

We will rain death upon the enemies of our new liege.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: partyboy on December 01, 2012, 01:12:21 am
DRACUL pledges allegiance to GODKING PARTYBOY of BIRD.  We hereby accept loyal authority as vassals of the glorious BIRD CLAN.

We will rain death upon the enemies of our new liege.

BIRD CLAN and DRACUL have always been close friends and I am honoured you have decided to take this relationship to ~the next level~
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: LordBerenger on December 01, 2012, 01:12:48 am
DRACUL pledges allegiance to GODKING PARTYBOY of BIRD.  We hereby accept loyal authority as vassals of the glorious BIRD CLAN.

We will rain death upon the enemies of our new liege.

Then you will let the official Jihad army pass by your fiefs without being hostile.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on December 01, 2012, 01:14:57 am
Then you will let the official Jihad army pass by your fiefs without being hostile.

Why of course we will.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: LordBerenger on December 01, 2012, 01:17:43 am
Why of course we will.
Thank you for your cooperation in this holy war.


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Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: kinngrimm on December 01, 2012, 07:18:23 am
Let me get this straight barranger , you want to invade EU Caladria soil and give shity pings and fucked up battle times to your NA pals ?
While the propaganda for your jihad ^^ is based on some comments where made by a EU Faction Leader which
a) hasn't made any hostile approaches to the NA
b) is part of 1. an alliance 2. of the eastern block which is all over the the EU/NA border
c) you get some personal vendetta done or is this an attempt to build up some creeping fear in NA getting invaded by EU and you go with the preemptive strike argument? (we now have alert level purple delta orange bla ... be aware terrorism may be waiting around every corner of your life, stay full of fear)

offtopic @barranger:
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Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tears of Destiny on December 01, 2012, 07:31:20 am
Prediction: This NA army crosses the border, attacks and gets slammed by their target and allies, and then all hell breaks loose by disgruntled NA folks about it.

Considering all the blather of NA folks who protested many times any and all EU coming into their lands, these actions will present a double-standard and trigger EU retaliations in the future and no one in NA will have a leg to stand on, so to speak, if they want to protest future EU invasions. CountBerenger is opening a floodgate that can not be closed.

At least it will be a fight with a lot of rewards for those who participate which is always nice, but pretty much everything kinngrimm said.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: partyboy on December 01, 2012, 07:43:21 am
Prediction: This NA army crosses the border, attacks and gets slammed by their target and allies

Sorry, forgive my lack of knowledge about the EU community but an open chocolate chip cookie apologist has allies?  Does this reflect irl EU trends?  I mean, I knew fascist parties were gaining traction in Greece or w/e but I didn't know these people played cRPG.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tears of Destiny on December 01, 2012, 07:59:45 am
Sorry, forgive my lack of knowledge about the EU community but an open chocolate chip cookie apologist has allies?  Does this reflect irl EU trends?  I mean, I knew fascist parties were gaining traction in Greece or w/e but I didn't know these people played cRPG.


From a realistic perspective, the "Jihad" are not attacking just him, but his entire clan, and by extension certain organizations who value the aforementioned clan for their contributions and efforts towards combating the UIF. If we start tar and feathering entire clans due to RL issues from a few members then I can think of several possible invasions that EU could do towards certain NA clans along with logical "occupations."


This will spark cross-border wars, pure and simple.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: kinngrimm on December 01, 2012, 08:42:36 am
Sorry, forgive my lack of knowledge about the EU community but an open chocolate chip cookie apologist has allies?  Does this reflect irl EU trends?  I mean, I knew fascist parties were gaining traction in Greece or w/e but I didn't know these people played cRPG.
So from being a fun partyboy you now goto be either a tool formed by propaganda or just troll yourself? Perhaps there is the third option of just having "lack of knowledge" which then but would deny your status of "godking" who i thought would make you omnipotent & all knowing.

As i stated also here (http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/jihad-on-uslum-and-shulus-(eu)-agains-evil-chocolate chip cookie-party-na-eu/msg666448/#msg666448),
I pretty much vouch for Niemand not being a chocolate chip cookie, from the experiences i had sofar with him. Also with your implications it would be pretty scary to have an international clan like mine, with over 14 european countries within. What is more likely? A sarcastic troll pointing out double standards or a clan with racist/fashist/chocolate chip cookie ideology  with members from 14 different countries including turkey, finland, britain, germany, france, spain, poland, czech, itally, belgium, dänmark, holland, swiss, portugal, norway,  ... i even had tried over a year ago to found a Wolves NA community, which due to the timezones and therefor not being able to play together regularly was discontinued, so make the math. But seriously if you chose that argument to goto war with CotgS and thereby the Cold Front Alliance i wouldn't even find words for my disgust.

EDIT: As a partyboy, perhaps your should stay away from these kinds of accussations, no fun in those ... at all.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: LordBerenger on December 01, 2012, 08:59:18 am
Once again it will be fun to see how all their 4th reich allies and neighbors will react. If they react just like UIF would do and attack a small clan (not really a clan tbh) then you should never put yourself over UIF on how you act and consider yourself hypocrits.


In any case protip. If you wanna be even more carebear spergy and just play ''Alliance Warfare: Trading Simulation 2012 Edition'' just get Fallen, Wolves, Ecorcheurs, SoA, Mercs or whatever and just stand at the border holding eachothers hands in a long line of blobs to try to prevent entrance. That'll work i'm sure.

Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 01, 2012, 12:17:01 pm
Euros need their alliances, and eastern is in general a lot worse than uif... ...at least UIF doesn't set their night time covering all hours the majority of people play on whenever they're afraid of an attack and then send gingerpussy off to explain to us how much better they are than UIF and how unfair it was that they didn't have the brains to check whether fief owners were banned and attack them before UIF did.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: partyboy on December 01, 2012, 12:21:50 pm
No, the accusations were not fun, that is why I first stated my lack of knowledge on the subject and then asked questions.

Berenger, pls provide evidence of any quotes from the accused that imply YMCA.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: LordBerenger on December 01, 2012, 12:36:21 pm
No, the accusations were not fun, that is why I first stated my lack of knowledge on the subject and then asked questions.

Berenger, pls provide evidence of any quotes from the accused that imply YMCA.

Check page 2 of the Jihad thread where A_Bear_IRL provides some quotes from Niemand before.
Oh and we got eye witnesses including myself who have seen Niemand spout out far-right propaganda.



In any case jihad still on and once again. Sorry for interrupting your peaceful trading simulation.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Butan on December 01, 2012, 02:51:51 pm
This is a topic for wars and alliances, go ask for ban on ban section if you really think he needs removed from the game.

A NA/EU war could be fun, dont ruin it with assumptions on RL persons and things like "europe supporting YMCA" or "NA invading our land for oil" bullshit
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Sauce on December 01, 2012, 04:19:26 pm
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Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: LordBerenger on December 01, 2012, 06:11:45 pm
''NA invading our land for oil" bullshit

Ehm who told you that?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Niemand on December 01, 2012, 07:39:03 pm
NOW ITS OUT! WE GOT YOUR TRUE REASONS! STAY AWAY FROM MY OIL YOU GREEDY AMERICAN!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Butan on December 01, 2012, 08:00:45 pm
Ehm who told you that?

Just a prophecy, aka how EU troll NA and vice versa :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on December 01, 2012, 08:21:08 pm
I guess it's time for me to weigh in on this. I've no problem with NA-EU conflicts. In fact, I'd love them. There's not much room for Frisia to fight anyone, as we're just a wee little faction surrounded by much bigger ones, many of whom are in alliances with bigger factions themselves!

However, this whole chocolate chip cookie crap is fucking retarded. I've played with plenty of folks from Europe very closely in my day, and it seems that currently in Germany, accusations of things like this are VERY serious. Hell, I heard that an elderly man went to prison for a short time because he had a cellphone ringtone of some old German battle-march that was used when Germany was under the Third Reich. I understand that this whole thing is something of a joke, but for real, this shit is just fucking stupid. It's quite different in the country that I share with Berenger and millions of others, but try to have a global perspective for fuck's sake. I know for a fact you can't even display certain symbols (I think the Maltese cross and cute puppy are among these) on the internet on Germany; it's against the law. They take this shit seriously. Obviously, it would be preferable to be able to speak and share images freely, but I suppose somewhere along the line Germany's leadership felt that censorship would stop people from associating them with chocolate chip cookies.

In conclusion, I think you're basically being a douche-cunt of the highest degree, Berenger. I don't give a fuck that you want to attack CotgS, but if you want to make some RP, do it in a way that's not absolutely fucktarded and has absolutely no consideration for others.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 01, 2012, 08:43:38 pm
I guess it's time for me to weigh in on this. I've no problem with NA-EU conflicts. In fact, I'd love them. There's not much room for Frisia to fight anyone, as we're just a wee little faction surrounded by much bigger ones, many of whom are in alliances with bigger factions themselves!

However, this whole chocolate chip cookie crap is fucking retarded. I've played with plenty of folks from Europe very closely in my day, and it seems that currently in Germany, accusations of things like this are VERY serious. Hell, I heard that an elderly man went to prison for a short time because he had a cellphone ringtone of some old German battle-march that was used when Germany was under the Third Reich. I understand that it's something of a joke, but for real, this shit is just fucking stupid. It's quite different in the country that I share with Berenger and millions of others, but try to have a global perspective for fuck's sake. I know for a fact you can't even display certain symbols (I think the Maltese cross and cute puppy are among these) on the internet on Germany; it's against the law. They take this shit seriously. Obviously, it would be preferable to be able to speak and share images freely, but I suppose somewhere along the line Germany's leadership felt that censorship would stop people from associating them with chocolate chip cookies.

In conclusion, I think you're basically being a douche-cunt of the highest degree, Berenger. I don't give a fuck that you want to attack CotgS, but if you want to make some RP, do it in a way that's not absolutely fucktarded and has absolutely no consideration for others.
So you're a Swede? BTW you should read those quotes a bear irl posted... Berenger really isn't far off with Niemand, while i do feel that the rest of CotGS may or may not deserve to be crucified then Niemand makes it necessary.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on December 01, 2012, 09:07:38 pm
Does Berenger live in Sweden, then? If he does, I've been a jackass and made a mistake.

However, I've read the entire thread. None of his quotes indicate that he is indeed a neo-chocolate chip cookie. In fact, I tend to agree with some of them, and I am ANYTHING but far-right, at least in terms of U.S politics.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 01, 2012, 10:05:24 pm
Does Berenger live in Sweden, then? Yes If he does, I've been a jackass Yes and made a mistake. Yes

However, I've read the entire thread. None of his quotes indicate that he is indeed a neo-chocolate chip cookie. In fact, I tend to agree with some of them, and I am ANYTHING but far-right, at least in terms of U.S politics.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: kinngrimm on December 01, 2012, 10:25:30 pm
So you're a Swede?
Does Berenger live in Sweden, then?
Would it matter? really ...
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 01, 2012, 11:20:38 pm
Would it matter? really ...
Yes, it matters, a lot.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Rikthor on December 01, 2012, 11:23:56 pm
Hey nerds, stop shitting up this thread with your drivel. Let there be clear alliance/war posts and nothing more, no one needs to hear your reasons for or against. You have the rest of the forum for it.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Malaclypse on December 02, 2012, 12:30:18 am
Hey nerds, stop shitting up this thread with your drivel. Let there be clear alliance/war posts and nothing more, no one needs to hear your reasons for or against. You have the rest of the forum for it.

Here here.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 02, 2012, 12:37:36 am
Check page 2 of the Jihad thread where A_Bear_IRL provides some quotes from Niemand before.
Oh and we got eye witnesses including myself who have seen Niemand spout out far-right propaganda.

quotes are out of context, niemand is not a chocolate chip cookie or racist. he even kicked people for being racist. this is slander and people might believe this. these posts were troll post as niemand is a huge troll, they actually are funny.

However, I've read the entire thread. None of his quotes indicate that he is indeed a neo-chocolate chip cookie. In fact, I tend to agree with some of them, and I am ANYTHING but far-right, at least in terms of U.S politics.
this

Euros need their alliances, and eastern is in general a lot worse than uif... ...at least UIF doesn't set their night time covering all hours the majority of people play on whenever they're afraid of an attack and then send gingerpussy off to explain to us how much better they are than UIF and how unfair it was that they didn't have the brains to check whether fief owners were banned and attack them before UIF did.
srsly? this case is already settled a long time ago, the acts of 10 NA players shouldnt be reflected to +150 EU players. the accusation has already fallen and the punishment has followed, you can not keep on using this as a argument.

knute, im really sorry for also fucking up your epic thread. you did a great job, but i cannot watch at what these people are wrighting, this is defamation.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Rhalzo on December 03, 2012, 08:19:16 am
FIDLGB now has 3 fiefs under our control, don't know if our roster number has changed from what the chart says.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA
Post by: Fringe on December 09, 2012, 09:25:12 am
Ya the the information seems about right, but the bubbles just dont fit because of their locations and spacing. Also something about the number format reminds me of bible verses.

Would be cool if someone made a literal map with your information.

That lol
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Kirbyy on December 09, 2012, 10:30:21 am
We've doubled our strat numbers from 6 to 12 :D
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: arowaine on December 09, 2012, 06:34:53 pm
we are all on na map no eu anymore and fief need to be updated too.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Aztek on December 09, 2012, 08:21:22 pm
Welcome back Occitan! More Canadians, Woot Woot!

.. And please god no "Merica!!" comments, let us have this Canadian comradery  :P
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Arathian on December 09, 2012, 08:47:37 pm
we are all on na map no eu anymore and fief need to be updated too.

welcome back, I guess :3
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tears of Destiny on December 09, 2012, 11:33:25 pm
nvm
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Kirbyy on December 10, 2012, 04:24:28 pm
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Welcome French Canadians Occitan! I'm glad you guys came :D.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on December 15, 2012, 11:20:12 am
Dracul is back to 6 active full time members.

Small clan pride, BIRD CLAN, caw caw and all that jazz
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 15, 2012, 02:32:45 pm
TVE Declaring war on Remnant?
 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=1812) Or is this less sinister.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Turboflex on December 15, 2012, 05:23:54 pm
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battleroster&id=1740
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Hobb on December 15, 2012, 05:41:50 pm
TVE Declaring war on Remnant?
 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=1812) Or is this less sinister.

Been at war for over a week I think?

The mad nerd reason: remnants attacked a VE caravan passing through the area between elherdah and amere, on its way to NH.( A trade route many months old) We had a brief chat over what to do to resolve this peacefully, but we had a major issue come up. Remnants consider the area between their center fiefs and their southern fiefs as "their" land, and we simply did/do not. So with this we felt any border policy claim they had was void and we gave a "retreat or war" option. They chose to fight the battle so here we are.

The cool kids reason: both sides were bored, so here we are.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: BaleOhay on December 15, 2012, 06:13:43 pm
you guys do not know how to wage a proper war.. where is the 20 page drama thread? I declare your war lame without it
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Aztek on December 15, 2012, 06:26:32 pm
you guys do not know how to wage a proper war.. where is the 20 page drama thread? I declare your war lame without it

Oh, by all means let me!... So Remnant is working with FCC, and now Tkov is attacking Remnant, so now FCC and Tkov should war!!

All jokes aside that would be an amazing war, 2 large clans warring, as they both have lots of gold, troops and many allies for each side that has dozens of heroes. Alas we all know neither would make that move.. But one could dream :)

(My sad attempt to troll and get some of the pressure off us)

I do have respect for both factions so don't take that serious ^^^^   :P
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: BaleOhay on December 15, 2012, 07:29:57 pm
Remnant and VE at war puts fcc in a funny place. We are generally friendly with both clans and actually like the idea of other big groups getting into some action.

I would be happy to merc for whoever would have me on their team.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: partyboy on December 15, 2012, 07:54:10 pm
Dracul are proud BIRD CLAN vassals, please reflect that in the next edition :)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Chestaclese on December 16, 2012, 12:45:42 am
TKoV is a large clan but unfortunately a large clan of talentless pussies. Like that fat whore that just lies there and expects you to do all the work they tried for months to talk another clan into attacking us but were ultimately unsuccessful because nobody likes lazy people and because Hobb can't help but drool any time he opens his fat mouth. As good as HoC is at standing in a line with their shields in the air, I'll take my chances standing next to the wall of any building which should prove just as effective.

How's that work for drama?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Visconti on December 16, 2012, 01:06:44 am
TKoV is a large clan but unfortunately a large clan of talentless pussies. Like that fat whore that just lies there and expects you to do all the work they tried for months to talk another clan into attacking us but were ultimately unsuccessful because nobody likes lazy people and because Hobb can't help but drool any time he opens his fat mouth. As good as HoC is at standing in a line with their shields in the air, I'll take my chances standing next to the wall of any building which should prove just as effective.

How's that work for drama?

Its funny because your calling us pussies while running away from us. Its a shame your running, but we'll enjoy the fiefs  :D And dont worry, i think HoC will prove you wrong in these upcoming battles (If we have any ?)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Chestaclese on December 16, 2012, 01:15:19 am
Its funny because your calling us pussies while running away from us. Its a shame your running, but we'll enjoy the fiefs  :D And dont worry, i think HoC will prove you wrong in these upcoming battles (If we have any ?)

Running? We are on our way to attack your shit. There is only so long a gangster can sling the corner waiting to caw caw caw before he gets board and decides to take the fight to his enemies.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: LordBerenger on December 16, 2012, 01:15:38 am
So will like HoC get all Remnant fiefs so you can keep all your fiefs to yourself in the East and MB get all Desert fiefs? Or how will you split up them? Oh and when you meet Sauce just protip. Run away. When you'll see his army you're basically dead meat.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Visconti on December 16, 2012, 01:18:11 am
Running? We are on our way to attack your shit. There is only so long a gangster can sling the corner waiting to caw caw caw before he gets board and decides to take the fight to his enemies.

Oh, really? Good then. Still dont recommend abandoning all these fiefs though, could have been some fun xp filled sieges.

Edit: Berenger, you'll see when we have the fiefs. And we have already seen Sauces army, nothing to be feared.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Chestaclese on December 16, 2012, 01:27:46 am
Oh, really? Good then. Still dont recommend abandoning all these fiefs though, could have been some fun xp filled sieges.

Edit: Berenger, you'll see when we have the fiefs. And we have already seen Sauces army, nothing to be feared.

I really wish that was the case but you guys successfully siege castles about as often as a Romney wins a presidential election. I've never seen a clan so inept at attacking shit and yet have such a vast amount of resources at their disposal. It's not too late to just pay us the way you paid Cheveliers. Save yourselves the embarrassment of trying to attack anything even remotely defended.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Hobb on December 16, 2012, 02:16:29 am
Every clan has a lordark
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 16, 2012, 02:28:54 am
SO is this still valid: the FCC/ Remnant defense pact? (http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/contract-for-the-mercenary-army-of-remnant%27s-support-%28mars%29/)


WHich also got the new na zi sensor to chocolate chip cookie
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Visconti on December 16, 2012, 02:29:20 am
Every clan has a lordark

Well said.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Chestaclese on December 16, 2012, 02:38:16 am
Every clan has a lordark

Lordark has a negative renown to infamy ratio of 136 Renown to
212 Infamy.

I'm clearly more well received.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Ostulor on December 16, 2012, 02:53:56 am
Chesty likes to stir up drama, if you take what he says seriously you're going to get butthurt. I'd recommend against it.

Let's do each other a favour and not take any of the shit we spew at each other to heart, TKoV/MB/HoC have a lot of cool dudes and I'd rather not have bad blood between them and the Remnants. Also, the battles at the start will be a little bland but towards the end of the war there's gonna be some very large sieges and such, be patient.

You guys picked a good time to attack, just hit 32 and I'm hoping this war can rocket me to 33. glhf VE
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Chestaclese on December 16, 2012, 03:08:36 am
I put the Dr. in drama haha.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Muki on December 16, 2012, 04:45:46 am
can exile token look like a sakura blossom :D
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Lordark on December 16, 2012, 05:54:19 am
Only reason I got so many down votes was because in strat 2 and 3 Fcc would gang rape me on every post I put with minus votes..

Anyways Much love to FCC and Tkov my victorious over-lords of Na strat 4! Long may your rule last and may you keep peace in our lands and the fires of war far far away in EU lands.

May trade , peace, prosperity, friendships, caring and goony love always transpire in Na_3 and beyond  .  . !

Death to the tyranius Hospitallers!

Specially Hospitaller_Huey_Newton  :twisted:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on December 16, 2012, 05:55:11 am
Yeah FCC should totally declare war on TKoV. Would be most fun!

Gotta finish with Hosp first, tho.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: BaleOhay on December 16, 2012, 06:04:34 am
FCC is the only faction to be at war this entire strat round. I wish there were stats on how many attacks each gorup has made how many men lost and how many men killed. Cost of equipment lost in battle.

So I am not sure what you are saying. We attacked Kutt equal footing same size organizations. We won and took two cities on the first try without raiding. That is an accomplishment.

Once we are done. We defended Bird lands.

Once they were safe we continued to march into Hosp (another equal sized clan) lands and are doing rather well. It took a couple changes in strategy but we now have a foothold and will see what we can do. I think we are doing a rather nice job currently this strat of keeping things going.

for those who do the strat battled look at your participated list. I am willing to bet for most of you the majority of your large fights even either been fighting for or against the fcc.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Keshian on December 16, 2012, 06:09:33 am
FCC is the only faction to be at war this entire strat round. I wish there were stats on how many attacks each gorup has made how many men lost and how many men killed. Cost of equipment lost in battle.

So I am not sure what you are saying. We attacked Kutt equal footing same size organizations. We won and took two cities on the first try without raiding. That is an accomplishment.

Once we are done. We defended Bird lands.

Once they were safe we continued to march into Hosp (another equal sized clan) lands and are doing rather well. It took a couple changes in strategy but we now have a foothold and will see what we can do. I think we are doing a rather nice job currently this strat of keeping things going.

for those who do the strat battled look at your participated list. I am willing to bet for most of you the majority of your large fights even either been fighting for or against the fcc.

Yeah I forgot to make the celebration announcement - the battle earlier today was the 100th battle FCC has done since the beginning of strat 4 (kind of similar tempo to what we have done every strat - strat 2 we had most battles of any faction including eu).  Since strat 4 has been up almost 4 months that equates to almost 1 battle every day on average.  I honestly think our faction members have the most fun of any strat faction win or lose, because we play the game the way strat is supposed to be played - full on fighting and not a trading simulator.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Goretooth on December 16, 2012, 06:46:12 am
Yeah I forgot to make the celebration announcement - the battle earlier today was the 100th battle FCC has done since the beginning of strat 4 (kind of similar tempo to what we have done every strat - strat 2 we had most battles of any faction including eu).  Since strat 4 has been up almost 4 months that equates to almost 1 battle every day on average.  I honestly think our faction members have the most fun of any strat faction win or lose, because we play the game the way strat is supposed to be played - full on fighting and not a trading simulator.
  :shock: why is this in the wars and alliances thread? http://forum.meleegaming.com/spam/
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: BaleOhay on December 16, 2012, 06:50:52 am
  :shock: why is this in the wars and alliances thread? http://forum.meleegaming.com/spam/

the battle earlier today was the 100th battle FCC has done since the beginning of strat 4

We are talking about Wars.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Goretooth on December 16, 2012, 06:52:09 am
the battle earlier today was the 100th battle FCC has done since the beginning of strat 4

We are talking about Wars.
lol who counted 1000 battles?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: BaleOhay on December 16, 2012, 06:53:32 am
lol who counted 1000 battles?

100 battles. need to start calling you readingcomprehensionTooth
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Goretooth on December 16, 2012, 06:55:45 am
100 battles. need to start calling you readingcomprehensionTooth
1000 100 still who counted them?
kesh or you?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: BaleOhay on December 16, 2012, 07:06:11 am
not something I would do
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Aztek on December 16, 2012, 07:07:22 am
FCC has been doing well this strat no question, but a few things I would like to point out.

Kutt did not have an equal organization nor footing as FCC, they simply had a lot of villages and what not from the voting system. They also did not have as many active players as FCC and as many resources to hold their claims which was made obvious after your invasion and the lack of resistance.

As for us Hospitaller, we were battered from the tkov/every other faction war on us. We never had a chance to rebuild or gain any viable trade routes as we were locked down, yes we have made a few eu runs but those were extremely minor in comparison to the free reign tkov and FCC had/has. Of course you are doing well, but to say these are "accomplishments" is a bit much.

FCC and tkov have a lot of heroes, that helps a lot in any battle, I'm in not ashamed to say we're lacking in that department, even I am horrible in battles but we deal with it. Now we do have some quality guys/gals, I'm just talking in comparison.

FCC vs tkov would be epic, both factions are the only 2 that have had free reign to monopolize the na map without resistance, either faction taking the other out would be an accomplishment, taking out smaller unorganized clans is more in line with a participation ribbon.

Feel free to throw numbers in our faction, I've been bugging peppo to take off dozens of names from our roster as they don't play nor contribute to strat, as all clans get I'm sure, but I guarantee our active members would be 1/3 of what shows on our faction page.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Rikthor on December 16, 2012, 07:57:46 am
Hey nerds, stop sperging about whatever garbage you are posting. Post you are in alliance with someone or at war with someone, that's it. That's all this thread is for.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Knute on December 16, 2012, 09:12:51 pm
can exile token look like a sakura blossom :D

I want the imageshack direct link to a hand drawn cherry blossom on my screen by the end of the week. 

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Do any of the EU clans on the chart without a banner have one?  I searched the ladder menu but couldn't find anything for:

Shu Han
Banditos
Rebels
Joannits (have one but it's not showing up atm)

Also any other clan that's active in strat but not up there lemme know.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Aderyn on December 16, 2012, 10:02:26 pm
I want the imageshack direct link to a hand drawn cherry blossom on my screen by the end of the week. 

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Do any of the EU clans on the chart without a banner have one?  I searched the ladder menu but couldn't find anything for:

Shu Han
Banditos
Rebels
Joannits (have one but it's not showing up atm)

Also any other clan that's active in strat but not up there lemme know.

Shu Han is Byzantium tho
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Casimir on December 16, 2012, 10:08:26 pm
Would be nice is crusader alliance showed Templars and SB, as all other factions now seem to have the individual clans represented within them. :)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Bjarky on December 16, 2012, 10:11:03 pm
for Shu Han just use that one from their OP  :wink:
http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/shu-han/ (http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/shu-han/)
Byz banner just wouldn't fit i think, cus they use a different RP for strat.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: MURDERTRON on December 16, 2012, 10:16:32 pm
There is not nearly enough red on the NA side.  Too many Care Bears, how boring.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Rikthor on December 17, 2012, 12:42:00 am
There needs to be a red line between BIRD Party and Hero Party as we are still at war.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Harrys Oil Can on December 17, 2012, 05:55:56 pm
There needs to be a red line between BIRD Party and Hero Party as we are still at war.
COME AT US BRO!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Blackzilla on December 17, 2012, 06:03:36 pm
There needs to be a red line between BIRD Party and Hero Party as we are still at war.
Why'd you sell your fief? I was less than 24 hours away from attacking it!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Krosis on December 18, 2012, 07:59:04 am
Why'd you sell your fief? I was less than 24 hours away from attacking it!

Wasn't it a castle?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: MURDERTRON on December 18, 2012, 10:06:29 am
Wasn't it a castle?

All castles are fiefs but not all fiefs are castles.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Butan on December 24, 2012, 06:13:26 am
Ni and Imperiale are now 2 different factions, still allied though (and please put our correct banner: http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=400 )
Empire have 60 members and 0 fief.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on January 11, 2013, 01:56:34 pm
I'm now the proud owner of a castle. That means us meaningless Frisians now have 2 fiefs.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Knute on January 19, 2013, 09:37:28 pm
Ni and Imperiale are now 2 different factions, still allied though (and please put our correct banner: http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=400 )
Empire have 60 members and 0 fief.

It looks like your clans are still in transition because there's a Knights Who Say Ni / Imperiale faction with 3 fiefs, Knights who say Ni with 1 fief and then the Rice Eater faction with 1 fief too.  I'll just kinda leave it as is on the map for the moment until it's all sorted out. 

I updated the map a little bit.  The Joannitts banner still isn't showing up in the clan ladder menu on the website for me, are they still active?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: partyboy on January 19, 2013, 09:49:36 pm
I think all hostilities against BIRD CLAN have ceased with the destruction of the western NEST and the dissolution of the members.  So it's 1 person, 1 fief, and no lines because I am neutral now and the other free villages don't want to link up yet.

bring back cool images for BIRD CLAN thanks in advance
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Knute on January 19, 2013, 10:06:40 pm
I'll see what I can do.  Are FCC, Dragoni of Valahia and Gmnotutoos Super Kawaii Desu Desu Japanese Schoolgirl Ninja Death Squad still considered BIRD CLAN vassals though?

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Are there any EU/NA clans without fiefs who are active in Strategus that I'm missing?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: LordBerenger on January 19, 2013, 10:10:34 pm
I'll see what I can do.  Are FCC, Dragoni of Valahia and Gmnotutoos Super Kawaii Desu Desu Japanese Schoolgirl Ninja Death Squad still considered BIRD CLAN vassals though?

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Are there any EU/NA clans without fiefs who are active in Strategus that I'm missing?

AL Qaeda in NA
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: partyboy on January 19, 2013, 11:55:27 pm
I'm giving up my vassals, they get into too many wars. 
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on January 20, 2013, 01:25:10 am
We are sorry but we had the obligation to get involve in this war due to our alliance with hero party.It is not really a family affair since fcc is involve in it... no offence to bird clan! May the bird come back one day and be peacefull/lover for ever. CAW CAW

HP and Occitan are allied.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 20, 2013, 05:34:36 am
ON the NA side, what the hell is the FIMBULTVER for NH?...huh?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Kelugarn on January 20, 2013, 08:39:13 am
ON the NA side, what the hell is the FIMBULTVER for NH?...huh?

Read up on your Norse mythology, Anders.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Butan on January 21, 2013, 02:15:02 pm
Thx Knute for your work.

Yes we are still in transition phase, the impossibility to change faction name is the culprit here. What I can tell you is Rice eaters = Imperiales+friendlies, and Knights who says Ni / Imperiale are changing to Knights who says Ni again (we only have a NAP with them so no more white line between us, but white line with shu han).

Continue your diplomacy map, it is a great tool to have an idea of whats happening on strategus.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: partyboy on January 22, 2013, 10:06:33 pm
Thx Knute for your work.

I don't think this can be said enough
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on January 25, 2013, 09:02:18 am
For Fimbulvetr, do something similar to what you did with the VE, our fiefs remain independent to each party faction, but our resources are combined to form one strategus faction, not an awkward merger with NH.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 25, 2013, 12:04:20 pm
Just so its clear, The Frisian Freedom strat faction will still be active, with fewer members. No need to explain why- and no need to show it on the map. Just clarifying.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Harpag on January 25, 2013, 02:05:14 pm
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I am here first time, but I have to admit that it's great job, readability and graphic form is also great!

A small correction from UIF point of view:

- Kingdom of the North - totally inactive
- Brodnics - totally inactive
- Banditos - totally inactive

It remains only half active Druzhina and Grey Order (in a passive way we consume resources previously developed), but hey, you have to try harder :P No more Saudi Arabian oil money or what?  :)


Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: jtobiasm on January 25, 2013, 02:43:53 pm
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Yeah, but we all know that when we beat you, you can say "but we weren't active".
Prosze Harpag.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: donib on January 27, 2013, 11:03:19 pm
The quiet before the storm....

Wonder what will happen after the Grey territory gold rush  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 28, 2013, 05:27:11 pm
I like what you've done with our participation in strategus, Knute. Pretty damn accurate. Go ahead and put us at war with the teutons as well.

Again, thanks for making this handy dealio.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Knute on January 29, 2013, 12:17:21 am
Sounds good, I'll update it later.  Are Gods of War merging into Teutonic or should I take them off the map?  Also, are Swords with Friends and JABONRA still active?

I am here first time, but I have to admit that it's great job, readability and graphic form is also great!

Thanks Harpag, I think the people working on the strat viewer (which sounded shady at first) were also looking into making a program where players could update their own banners/diplomatic status and show connections to other clans.  So who knows, maybe something like this except better will get incorporated into the game at some point.

P.S. Can we have one of your cities?  It would get turned into a free trade city for everyone to use and the best place to find discounted +3 champion sumpter horses.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on January 29, 2013, 02:01:28 am
The real question is where in the hell is Fisdnar!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Dach on January 29, 2013, 03:54:27 am
The real question is where the hell you've been?!

Miss you Frank!  :D
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Wesleysnipes on January 29, 2013, 06:13:13 am
Yes GoW has joined our strat faction.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: ArysOakheart on January 29, 2013, 07:17:29 am
The real question is where in the hell is Fisdnar!

Even our imaginary NA Fisdnar isn't a happy place without our Elderer Peasant Frank.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on January 29, 2013, 07:21:13 am
Also, Knute, in case you didn't notice, 12 Hands doesn't exist, it's just LL now.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: donib on January 29, 2013, 11:44:05 am
Rebels (and all its subfactions), are now the caliphate, hold 1 fief and have no allegiances.

Refer here (http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/the-caliphate-of-the-strangers-%28ghuraba%29/)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 30, 2013, 10:53:20 pm
Damn all these good battles happening tonight in NA...can you guys put these wars on hold til Friday night when I can play again? 
Thanks in advance!

Sincerely,

Hospitaller_Huseby
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Fringe on January 30, 2013, 11:07:30 pm
Can you add Kingdom of Jerusalem (KoJ?) Allied with Teutonics.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 30, 2013, 11:51:22 pm
Damn all these good battles happening tonight in NA...can you guys put these wars on hold til Friday night when I can play again? 
Thanks in advance!

Sincerely,

Hospitaller_Huseby

They won't stop man, not anytime soon! Things are finally HAPPENING in strat!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Valdian on January 31, 2013, 03:02:48 am
We are tiny but Angevin has joined With the Defence of the northern lands with the Wolves. We do not openly attack   people unless we are contracted to. We however will defend the  northern tundra from invadors.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Wesleysnipes on February 01, 2013, 04:35:48 am
Put a red line from Teutonic to Illdist and mates. Soon to be another red line with Chaos and Teutonics.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Canary on February 01, 2013, 05:07:28 am
Soon to be another red line with Chaos and Teutonics.

Confirmed.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Hobb on February 01, 2013, 05:10:33 am
i liked the old "post 10000 word essay replies" canary better, it made for much better entertainment.

is this what a suit-and-tie has done for you canary?

:)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Canary on February 01, 2013, 05:27:01 am
i liked the old "post 10000 word essay replies" canary better, it made for much better entertainment.

is this what a suit-and-tie has done for you canary?

:)

It would seem as though more and more people (myself and people who would be my enemies especially) are becoming more aloof in the way of strategus. It's best to reserve the long-winded essay/quotation-riddled posts for rebuking trashtalkers and propaganda-mongers, I would think. Most of those guys have left, cooled off, or are now unaffiliated with major players on the map.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Rhalzo on February 01, 2013, 07:18:06 am
Put a red line from Teutonic to Illdist and mates. Soon to be another red line with Chaos and Teutonics.

Might as well get a red line ready for FIDLGB and Teutonic as well.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Syls on February 01, 2013, 07:52:58 am
The Velucan Empire isn't at war with Remnant anymore so you can remove the red line (Remnant is lazy and hasn't created the official thread about it yet.)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on February 01, 2013, 05:07:30 pm
Finally Friday and I can fight in some battles :D

Kind of looks like Teutonic should have stayed in TAMDA :P
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Keshian on February 01, 2013, 06:33:09 pm
Just noticed - you don't have a red line between hero party and FCC, they just raided our village and we wiped out their army.  So should be red lines from fcc to hospitallers, occitan and hero party.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Butan on February 02, 2013, 05:28:31 pm
In before huge remodeling of the EU war map :D
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: BASNAK on February 02, 2013, 05:31:03 pm
In before huge remodeling of the EU war map :D

Haha that is so true :D

Knute, You can also remove the Kingdom of Nerds and Gay order as vassals from Ghuraba Caliphate. We disbanded those :D
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Casimir on February 02, 2013, 05:32:03 pm
When i hit 1000 renown we can unveil the Kingdom of Casimir, and eventually bring all Calradia under my will.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: bagge on February 02, 2013, 08:44:04 pm
Shu Han and Rice Eaters are working together as the "Chinese Empire". We don't have any association with Knight Who Says Ni and we are not at war with the UIF, but the Crusader Alliance.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Natermotor on February 05, 2013, 04:47:44 am
It would be awesome if you would add Imperium Romanum.  We are a part of TAMDA, 5 people, 1 fief ATM.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: donib on February 05, 2013, 07:50:30 am
EU is really hectic now
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Elindor on February 05, 2013, 06:05:40 pm
Knute - Dracul and Imperium Romanum are in TAMDA.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: kinngrimm on February 05, 2013, 07:21:28 pm
CFA at war with Ottomans
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Teeth on February 05, 2013, 11:15:33 pm
The Coalition at war with Shu Han
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: donib on February 05, 2013, 11:17:11 pm
The Coalition at war with Shu Han
Poor Knute is going to have his hands full now
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Elindor on February 05, 2013, 11:21:01 pm
Sorry Knute :(

HG is its own faction now and holds Yruma and Karindi in NA.

Our numbers on the crpg ladder are 24
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Knute on February 05, 2013, 11:56:37 pm
Haha, no problem, it's all organized so it just takes a few minutes to adjust.  I'll do it later tonight.

This is me right now:

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Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Elindor on February 05, 2013, 11:57:41 pm
This is me right now:

(click to show/hide)

Best move ever.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on February 06, 2013, 02:44:29 am
VE is at war with Occitan now?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on February 06, 2013, 04:53:47 am
Sorry to add a relatively trivial matter to your workload, but Fimbulvetr is at peace with Teutonic.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Taser on February 06, 2013, 04:57:00 pm
VE is at war with Occitan now?

Yep.

http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/yo-occitan!/ (http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/yo-occitan!/)

Dis gunna be gud.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: bagge on February 06, 2013, 05:04:48 pm
Shu Han is actually at war with the entire eastern block. But I guess the only important factions in the block is Crusaders, Coalition, Apostates and CFA
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: kinngrimm on February 06, 2013, 06:31:49 pm
Shu Han is actually at war with the entire eastern block. But I guess the only important factions in the block is Crusaders, Coalition, Apostates and CFA
oh we are ? i didn't notice you declared war on CFA, CFA didn't declare war on you, you know? I stated we would be "hostile" , don't come close to our lands, stay away from our parties and as far as i am considered we stay out of each others business. If i see caravans i will attack them i wouldn't expect less from you, but war would include me grabbing my baggage and getting pimples on my heals venturing down into an area where i have no interest in. Not including roster support ^^ after all you attacked an ally on the other end of the map with whom you had a NAP while he told you he had is pants down(reshuffling fief ownerships).

So are we now or not, i need to know, so i can speed up the Ottoman situation to take a bite out of ShuHan ^^
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on February 07, 2013, 12:39:42 pm
If you care to do so, put us Frisians at war with Malta.

Oh, and you can remove the number off of the Frisian faction. Soon it'll consist of nothing but 4 afks.

Thanks knute.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Bjarky on February 07, 2013, 01:24:10 pm
EU
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List over inactive EU clans (or at least haven't seen them do anything anymore, no battle etc.):

De Bitre (have migrated to Ottoman, the rest is inactive)
Royal Knights (inactive)
WPB (haven't seen them do stuff for a long while) nvm  :wink:
Stromgarde (inactive)

Also u might wanna edit KWSN, they have renamed and are bigger.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 07, 2013, 01:53:34 pm
WPB (haven't seen them do stuff for a long while)
We're actively playing, just haven't gotten into any battles for a while.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Bjarky on February 07, 2013, 01:56:35 pm
kk  :)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Kirbyy on February 07, 2013, 02:09:23 pm
OH and if you can please use our current Malta Banner :D
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Butan on February 07, 2013, 05:14:27 pm

Stromgarde (inactive)



Definitely active with Risen
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 07, 2013, 05:16:02 pm
Caravan guild isn't active, haven't seen them do any battles in a while.
I was like slightly joking chill out dude.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Bjarky on February 07, 2013, 05:40:22 pm

Definitely active with Risen
i meant them as a independent strat faction, there 2 in that faction now, the active ppl they had have moved on.
there are so many avatars on the op EU picture, it could get a bit more tidy i think :)

Caravan guild isn't active, haven't seen them do any battles in a while.
2 weeks ago, siege vs grey Uxkhal and Chide :wink:
i wasnt intending to troll your faction or whatever, honest mistakes do happen...
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Butan on February 07, 2013, 08:09:45 pm
there are so many avatars on the op EU picture, it could get a bit more tidy i think :)


true true, even maybe a map with the alliances, and a map with the wars ? but its definitely up to knute to decide, I like how messy it is atm because its really the state of EU  :lol:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tears of Destiny on February 08, 2013, 04:41:06 am
I FOUND WALDO!


I mean... Seriously, I found waldo. Nice.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: ArysOakheart on February 08, 2013, 04:43:51 am
Give Knute time to edit this. He spends all day toiling in the fields of our new turnip patch, comes home and spends the few minutes of time before bed working on this.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Elindor on February 08, 2013, 11:06:54 pm
I would tell Knute that TAMDA is now Free Lands of the Tundra (Free Lands for short), but since he's in it - Im assuming he knows that :P
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Sir_Winston_Churchill on February 21, 2013, 11:55:49 pm
Pretty obvious but now Hosp is at war with NH.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Muki on February 23, 2013, 01:05:21 am
Exile breaking off from hero party

Edit: It seems I have been label a traitor soo guess that means I'm at war with Occitan and hero party and semen storm now
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on February 23, 2013, 04:44:43 am
Astralis is now at war with Fimbulvetr.


MORE FUEL FOR RAGNAROK, PREPARE TO HAVE YOUR SKULLS SQUASHED PUNY MORTALS
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Turboflex on February 23, 2013, 11:12:01 pm
Remember when Astralis insisted they weren't Hospitaller vassals?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Aztek on February 24, 2013, 12:34:22 am
They are not our vassals, they do their own thing as do we. Obviously the enemy of my enemy is my friend, so we will work beside them as we have a common goal in this, but we do not coordinate attacks, or have each other make suggestions to the other.

Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: SittingBull on February 24, 2013, 08:43:36 am
^^^

I don't see why that's so hard for people to understand. No one has given Astralis a good reason to NOT work with Hospitaller. It's unfortunate that the same lines tend to be drawn every strat, but don't call us a vassal for sticking with friendly clans - that just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on February 24, 2013, 11:06:37 am
The prophecy is almost complete, see you fuckers in Valhalla.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Butan on February 24, 2013, 12:23:35 pm
^^^

I don't see why that's so hard for people to understand. No one has given Astralis a good reason to NOT work with Hospitaller. It's unfortunate that the same lines tend to be drawn every strat, but don't call us a vassal for sticking with friendly clans - that just doesn't make sense.


We have exactly the same problem EU side, except that instead of being mistaken for vassals, we are mistaken to be allies/part of a coalition as soon as you get in war with the same enemies as one of the two mega blocks of EU that controls 95% of the map.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tovi on March 03, 2013, 04:40:22 am
That's because there is never peace agreement.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Butan on March 06, 2013, 11:46:07 pm
Nice looking image for the silk road fed, thx!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Wesleysnipes on March 07, 2013, 05:17:09 am
NA: The Teutonic knights are no longer with GoW.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Arathian on March 07, 2013, 12:08:25 pm
NA: The Teutonic knights are no longer with GoW.

Nor are we at war with Republic of mates and chaos any more, to my knowledge at least.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Canary on March 08, 2013, 07:18:54 am
Nor are we at war with Republic of mates and chaos any more, to my knowledge at least.

I don't recall ever coming to some kind of accord with you fellows.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Wesleysnipes on March 08, 2013, 07:21:36 am
I don't recall ever coming to some kind of accord with you fellows.

How about we make one?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Arathian on March 08, 2013, 07:25:07 am
I don't recall ever coming to some kind of accord with you fellows.

Afaik you did

Quote
Well, that was a fun fight.

I feel that the insult to my avian mentality has been avenged.

Or am I reading this wrong?

edit: also, what Wesley said. Drop the grudge already Canary.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Krosis on March 08, 2013, 09:11:19 am
Where's your dignity Teutonics? First you backstab, then you call for help against a smaller clan.. now you're practically asking CHAOS for peace.. tsk tsk tsk. :?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: MURDERTRON on March 08, 2013, 09:50:53 am
Where's your dignity Teutonics? First you backstab, then you call for help against a smaller clan.. now you're practically asking CHAOS for peace.. tsk tsk tsk. :?

Is LL smaller than Teutonic?  I literally have no idea.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Mongolista on March 08, 2013, 01:07:37 pm
We have nothing against the CFA as a whole, we are fighting purely Wolves clan (unless CFA is another name for Wolves clan)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Wesleysnipes on March 08, 2013, 01:31:49 pm
Where's your dignity Teutonics? First you backstab, then you call for help against a smaller clan.. now you're practically asking CHAOS for peace.. tsk tsk tsk. :?

You don't even know...kid!

Edit: it says we have 27 members in strat but only 15 prob less participate. What does LL have 15? Now shouldn't we consider some of those KUTT members aswell? Appearently they were sporting troops... So are we the smaller faction or LL?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: kinngrimm on March 08, 2013, 01:58:48 pm
We have nothing against the CFA as a whole, we are fighting purely Wolves clan (unless CFA is another name for Wolves clan)

I have nothing against the Knight who says Ni, i am very fond of Noblebeast, but can't stand Cum anymore, who is in my opinion a backstabbing deal changing lying scumback to make this now perfectly clear.

I answered your challange and upgraded it, you can take that or leave it, if you attack a CFA fief, which ever one that may be, you trigger the complete alliance and their Defense Pacts (http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/wolf-pack-mercenaries-treaties-claims-strat-4-0/msg607309/#msg607309), that is the way it works

EDIT: as long you don't attack CFA fiefs, this would purely be a Wolves vs Knight who says Ni battle for fun&honor. If you want to make more out of it ... bring it on.

...

on the 5.4.13, 1 month from now 1.6k army, outfitted in anyway every factions pleases. I expect waiting around Dirhirm for a battle worth all this shit, also as you threatened so many times with war and tried to get us backstabbed, i cancle our NAP and you are now seen as "unsure".

If we win this battle i expect you to stfu, if you win this battle, you can have another one, a month later in the same manner as the first. This shouldn't overstretch your ressources and we can continue as long as you are not satisfied.
These are the terms and they are final.
...
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: SanGliers_Manouck on March 28, 2013, 11:40:49 am
up for great job  :)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on March 28, 2013, 10:07:44 pm
Larry attacked New Dashbigha at about 7:45 PM (EST) on Wednesday.

Good thing your night time settings are set appropriately, I really wanted to fight this battle at midnight on a weekday.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: ildist on March 31, 2013, 03:18:14 am
The Mates are not allied with FCC.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Keshian on March 31, 2013, 03:24:04 am
The Mates are not allied with FCC.

True, but we love you guys anyway. :)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: ildist on March 31, 2013, 03:36:27 am
ya i love you too but i refuse to be tied down by alliances
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 31, 2013, 03:37:32 am
Just figured I'd say, Phalangite are a part of Silk Road.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Keshian on March 31, 2013, 04:59:00 am
ya i love you too but i refuse to be tied down by alliances

:( always a bridesmaid, never a bride
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Rhalzo on March 31, 2013, 06:48:33 am
I FOUND WALDO! Oh wait, this is diplomacy...

My expedition to find Waldo has finally ended in success. I've searched the far corners of the alliances and came upon this wily devil hiding behind what appeared to be a rug. But I must say, this was not just any rug as it really tied this whole alliance chart together. Good on you Knute.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: ildist on March 31, 2013, 07:06:51 am
:( always a bridesmaid, never a bride

idk about you but i'm gay
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Vermilion on April 01, 2013, 04:05:13 pm
Could ya pop 'Phalangite' (EU) next to the Silk Road? We're junior members.

Probably best to but us (Phalangite) not connected to Silk Road though as we have our own diplomacy. Or link us with a dotted line or somthing..
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Butan on April 01, 2013, 06:07:51 pm
Probably best to but us (Phalangite) not connected to Silk Road though as we have our own diplomacy. Or link us with a dotted line or somthing..

I think Knute is having a hard time working out how he will represent how Silk Road works with only 2 colored lines as possibilities  :lol:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Vermilion on April 01, 2013, 07:36:53 pm
It be a difficult one lol

Good luck with that Knute :D I'm sure you'll find a suitable solution.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Torben on April 01, 2013, 08:35:05 pm
Niing knights are affiliated to dem silks as well,  eh?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Dach on April 02, 2013, 08:41:39 am
I'm a bit late in here...

Knute you can add Fallen behind FCC with a neckbeard under the logo!  :mrgreen:

1 Fief, 4 members.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Knute on April 02, 2013, 11:32:02 am
Thanks for the info all, updated it a little bit.

I'll just do a white line connecting Phalangite to Silk Road Federation since it falls under alliance (or something like that).

Knute you can add Fallen behind FCC with a neckbeard under the logo!  :mrgreen:

1 Fief, 4 members.

That's tempting! Just to keep it simple though, I'll leave you guys merged into the FCC numbers but with the Fallen banner connected to them plus your true overlords the house of Saud.  This is basically just a visualization of strat faction list on the website so I try to keep it close to that:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Muki on April 04, 2013, 02:55:14 am
Seems Chaos is at war with birdclan

http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/war-of-the-birds/
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Sparvico on April 05, 2013, 09:51:32 pm
Seems Chaos is at war with birdclan

http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/war-of-the-birds/

More specifically Vitamins is at war with Partybird. Why you ask? Because fuck it, that's why.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: partyboy on April 06, 2013, 12:54:44 am
More specifically Vitamins is at war with Partybird. Why you ask? Because fuck it, that's why.

Well, it's still technically at war while Chaos forces are occupying BIRD CITY.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Casimir on April 09, 2013, 03:00:50 pm
Y this no sticky?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on April 09, 2013, 08:35:22 pm
SemenStorm is at war with VE, FCC and Fimbulvetr.

Heavenly Kingdom is at war with VE and Fimbulvetr.

Lost Legion is at war with FCC and Fimbulvetr.

Teutonic Knights are now Art of War (AoW)


Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Penguin on April 11, 2013, 05:14:12 am
Jesus and Company, now Jesus and Friends

Jesus and Friends officially declares war on the Free Trading Federation(also known as the Free lands of the Tundra)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Jon Agony on April 11, 2013, 07:35:54 am
The Agony now known as Order of the Lion!

Order of the Lion are now allied with Blackfists!

Order of the Lion declares war on Grey Order!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: partyboy on April 11, 2013, 09:13:14 am
Jesus and Company, now Jesus and Friends

Jesus and Friends officially declares war on the Free Trading Federation(also known as the Free lands of the Tundra)

I can't deal with this shit right now maaaan
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Matey on April 24, 2013, 03:56:55 am
im bumping this up even if it wont be updated again for awhile!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Knute on April 26, 2013, 10:53:34 pm
So what's going on?  Did the good guys win? 

I can't read all the threads or my messages but could probably update this thing tonight with the help of a cliffs notes version of who's fighting who. 
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: BaleOhay on April 26, 2013, 11:50:04 pm
the good guys (FCC for those out of the loop) are still threatened from all sides but fighting valiantly. With some luck they will prevail. 

FCC now at war with:

Hosp
Occ/Chev
SS/Jabrona
Chaos
FIDLGB
Clan Mackinnon
LL
Heavenly Kingdom

Allied with no one

But continue to give long sexy glances at
AoW
VE
Fumble (or however you spell it)

FCC no longer subjects of Birdclan

Neutral with everyone else
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Wesleysnipes on April 26, 2013, 11:50:06 pm
Imperium Romanum joined FCC
Remnant joined FCC
Teutonic is now AoW
AoW is at war against Ildist and da republic of mates
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Butan on April 27, 2013, 12:03:08 am
big wars in EU
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on April 27, 2013, 12:05:14 am
FCC just diplo-annexed the fuck out of that tundra  8-)


edit:

Of course, leaving out the grand final sanctuary and resting place of the Dragoni, the ever growing and expanding northern frontier of the great Fimbulvetr Alliance.

A land of peace, a land of mites.

fuckin bear furs
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Keshian on April 27, 2013, 12:46:07 am
FCC just diplo-annexed the fuck out of that tundra  8-)



Love the Europa Universalis reference. :)  We did it the old fashioned way of getting married - blowjobs and cocktails won them over.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Taser on April 27, 2013, 12:46:44 am
the good guys (FCC for those out of the loop) are still threatened from all sides but fighting valiantly. With some luck they will prevail. 

FCC now at war with:

Hosp
Occ/Chev
SS/Jabrona
Chaos
FIDLGB

Allied with no one

But continue to give long sexy glances at
AoW
VE
Fumble (or however you spell it)

FCC no longer subjects of Birdclan

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How you doin'?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Keshian on April 27, 2013, 12:57:59 am
Just looked at the first page again.  Just have to say FCC looks so badass with a dragon with 8 red lines going against everyone.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: BaleOhay on April 27, 2013, 01:39:56 am
updated it.. couple more wars.. and added neutral for everyone else so that mates, FPF, astralis any anyone else do not feel left out.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Penguin on April 27, 2013, 07:22:50 am
FCC just diplo-annexed the fuck out of that tundra  8-)


edit:

Of course, leaving out the grand final sanctuary and resting place of the Dragoni, the ever growing and expanding northern frontier of the great Fimbulvetr Alliance.

A land of peace, a land of mites.



fuckin bear furs

Tismirr remains an enemy of FCC/VE
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: BaleOhay on April 27, 2013, 07:25:52 am
why would tismirr hate the fcc!!! DO you not see all the clans already at war with us.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Haboe on April 27, 2013, 03:23:28 pm
Indeed,
EU in the north is fun atm (Steel Axis, Blackfists, Apostates, Wolves, Cotgs, Kapikulu)
EU in the south east is fun (drz under attack by Crusader allience and coalition)
Maybe soon the greys have their shit back together and they will also make things interesting on the rest of the map  :mrgreen:

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Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: BaleOhay on April 27, 2013, 04:04:30 pm
so Eu finally figured out to play the game and have fun you have to be like NA? Grab some burgers and fries and dig in, Welcome to the club!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Haboe on April 27, 2013, 04:20:42 pm
so Eu finally figured out to play the game and have fun you have to be like NA? Grab some burgers and fries and dig in, Welcome to the club!

No, we switched roles, NA's turn to build up loads of troops for no obvious reason  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Vermilion on April 27, 2013, 05:03:04 pm
siege equipment fixed and the whole north of EU goes to war..

finally a use for the 1000's of troops they have been stashing :)

BRING ON THE EXP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Matey on April 27, 2013, 08:31:14 pm
No, we switched roles, NA's turn to build up loads of troops for no obvious reason  :mrgreen:

pfff. we will carry on with lots of battles kthnx.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Haboe on April 27, 2013, 10:25:07 pm
siege equipment fixed and the whole north of EU goes to war..

finally a use for the 1000's of troops they have been stashing :)

BRING ON THE EXP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

War started before the gear got fixed :P
Today's siege had 1k ladders, and only 200 material, since we were prepared for an all-ladder assault due to broken siegegear xD
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Butan on April 28, 2013, 02:33:22 am
EU side war map currently :

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EU side war map after the impending update :

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Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: BASNAK on April 28, 2013, 09:07:16 am
Butan I can almost swear you made a line from Knights who say Ni to themselves again xD
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: DUKE DICKBUTT on April 29, 2013, 09:39:39 am
How many wars must FCC start before it can defend a castle or town???
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Tovi on April 29, 2013, 10:22:03 am
Ecorcheurs is neutral and part of the Silk Road Federation now.

Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: BeastSVK on April 29, 2013, 10:39:44 am
Butan I can almost swear you made a line from Knights who say Ni to themselves again xD
THIS!
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Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Wesleysnipes on April 29, 2013, 04:47:40 pm
Sad to see no white line between AoW and FCC, I always love holding hands with bale in combat. Btw we look so badass and evil. Great job with the update Knute!!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Casimir on April 29, 2013, 05:24:25 pm
CA is one of the few factions actally still fighting against DRZ / GO :P
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on April 29, 2013, 10:18:24 pm
Last I checked Fimbulvetr is still at war with most of the 'RED BLOC', but then again I don't really play anymore so I guess I wouldn't know.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Matey on May 06, 2013, 08:27:07 pm
Looks like you need to add another red line for FCC. The only groups with more than 10 people who aren't at war with us at this point are VE, AoW, FPF and Astralis.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Keshian on May 06, 2013, 09:00:27 pm
Looks like you need to add another red line for FCC. The only groups with more than 10 people who aren't at war with us at this point are VE, AoW, FPF and Astralis.

I guess we are just that intimidating as the third largest na faction.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Gmnotutoo on May 06, 2013, 09:30:47 pm
Please move me closer to partyboy and bird clan, because I'm allied with him.

Also individually I'm at war with chaos but Bird Clan is not.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: arowaine on May 06, 2013, 09:37:23 pm
I guess we are just that intimidating as the third largest na faction.
you mean 2 largest faction(na side) ?
Leaders:
Adoptagoat_of_TKoV
FFC_9Finger_MB
FFC_Aldogalus_MB
god_Emperor_Rob_King_of_TKoV
Hobb_Lord_of_TKoV
HoC_King_BoneSaw_TheCruel
HoC_KingsHand_Warborn
HoC_NeckBeard_Soturin
HoC_Queen_Asca
Maple_Syrup_MB
Syls_Lord_of_TKoV
Token_Shitty_MB
Tristran_Steward_of_TKoV
Diplomat:-
Members:155

Leaders:
BaleOhay_BS_BRD
BlondeKhan_ATS
Cavalieres_Cav_Is_Hard
Cavalieres_Edmond
DUKE_DICKBUTT
EggoWaffle
Fallen_Dach
Fallen_Loki
Frodo_T_Baggins_Unicorns
Kerin_Grahm_BRD
Kesh_ATS
MAID_AMELIA_BEDILIA_OF_BIRD
Midnighter_BRD
Remnant_Lord_WeeBo
Snickers_BRD
Snoop
Diplomat:-
Members:84


Leaders:
Chevalier_Bonsai_sans_Cheval
Chevalier_Inglorious_Mauvais
Occitan_Arowaine
Diplomat:-
Members:68

we are the third.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Jack1 on May 06, 2013, 10:05:27 pm
you mean 2 largest faction(na side) ?
Leaders:
Adoptagoat_of_TKoV
FFC_9Finger_MB
FFC_Aldogalus_MB
god_Emperor_Rob_King_of_TKoV
Hobb_Lord_of_TKoV
HoC_King_BoneSaw_TheCruel
HoC_KingsHand_Warborn
HoC_NeckBeard_Soturin
HoC_Queen_Asca
Maple_Syrup_MB
Syls_Lord_of_TKoV
Token_Shitty_MB
Tristran_Steward_of_TKoV
Diplomat:-
Members:155

Leaders:
BaleOhay_BS_BRD
BlondeKhan_ATS
Cavalieres_Cav_Is_Hard
Cavalieres_Edmond
DUKE_DICKBUTT
EggoWaffle
Fallen_Dach
Fallen_Loki
Frodo_T_Baggins_Unicorns
Kerin_Grahm_BRD
Kesh_ATS
MAID_AMELIA_BEDILIA_OF_BIRD
Midnighter_BRD
Remnant_Lord_WeeBo
Snickers_BRD
Snoop
Diplomat:-
Members:84


Leaders:
Chevalier_Bonsai_sans_Cheval
Chevalier_Inglorious_Mauvais
Occitan_Arowaine
Diplomat:-
Members:68

we are the third.



And partyboy in a close race for fourth. Inspiring diplomacy posts increased your recruitment speed.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Keshian on May 06, 2013, 10:41:42 pm
you mean 2 largest faction(na side) ?
Leaders:
Adoptagoat_of_TKoV
FFC_9Finger_MB
FFC_Aldogalus_MB
god_Emperor_Rob_King_of_TKoV
Hobb_Lord_of_TKoV
HoC_King_BoneSaw_TheCruel
HoC_KingsHand_Warborn
HoC_NeckBeard_Soturin
HoC_Queen_Asca
Maple_Syrup_MB
Syls_Lord_of_TKoV
Token_Shitty_MB
Tristran_Steward_of_TKoV
Diplomat:-
Members:155

Leaders:
BaleOhay_BS_BRD
BlondeKhan_ATS
Cavalieres_Cav_Is_Hard
Cavalieres_Edmond
DUKE_DICKBUTT
EggoWaffle
Fallen_Dach
Fallen_Loki
Frodo_T_Baggins_Unicorns
Kerin_Grahm_BRD
Kesh_ATS
MAID_AMELIA_BEDILIA_OF_BIRD
Midnighter_BRD
Remnant_Lord_WeeBo
Snickers_BRD
Snoop
Diplomat:-
Members:84


Leaders:
Chevalier_Bonsai_sans_Cheval
Chevalier_Inglorious_Mauvais
Occitan_Arowaine
Diplomat:-
Members:68

we are the third.


I guess he forgot to include the 15 hospitallers in Tulga and the 7 in Dusturil castle recruiting troops for you and dumping them in the city and castle.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Muki on May 06, 2013, 11:20:53 pm
lets not start a flame war in this thread :)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: partyboy on May 07, 2013, 08:13:28 am
Please move me closer to partyboy and bird clan, because I'm allied with him.

Also individually I'm at war with chaos but Bird Clan is not.

we're kind of like bffs and i'm the fat kid who doesnt like conflict
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Canary on May 07, 2013, 10:18:49 am
I guess he forgot to include the 15 hospitallers in Tulga and the 7 in Dusturil castle recruiting troops for you and dumping them in the city and castle.

I guess he forgot what the word "faction" means.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Hobb on May 07, 2013, 09:52:55 pm
If they are giving troops to your faction for free then why shouldnt it be included? Isnt that the significant thing about faction size? More troops and gold?

Occitian reminds me of the movie 300. You know, the greeks? Greeks: The Europeans paying their expenses so they can stay in the show.

Anyone find it weird that arrowaine likes to compare faction size, while he turns to the other half of the and says "feed me!!!!"
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: arowaine on May 08, 2013, 06:14:53 am
If they are giving troops to your faction for free then why shouldnt it be included? Isnt that the significant thing about faction size? More troops and gold?

Occitian reminds me of the movie 300. You know, the greeks? Greeks: The Europeans paying their expenses so they can stay in the show.

Anyone find it weird that arrowaine likes to compare faction size, while he turns to the other half of the and says "feed me!!!!"

i tough hospitaller was waiting on fcc to wipe then and well thanks hosp if you guys giving us raw troop that really kind of you was not aware.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Hobb on May 08, 2013, 07:12:56 am
oh I never said hospi i giving you anything, in fact knowing hospi as we both do, hospi is almost certainly not capable of getting three guys on to something for themselves, not to mention 15 guys to farm troops for someone else. But who knows, maybe kesh knows something I dont.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Syls on May 08, 2013, 09:05:53 am
you mean 2 largest faction(na side) ?
we are the third.[/b]

Considering the amounts of troops you've gotten from EU, both before coming back to NA and after, it's hard to believe you consider yourself weaker than FCC. If anything the amounts of plated troops we killed from you guys shows that.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Haboe on May 08, 2013, 09:16:50 am
And i thought EU had mega-alliances :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Keshian on May 08, 2013, 03:26:11 pm
oh I never said hospi i giving you anything, in fact knowing hospi as we both do, hospi is almost certainly not capable of getting three guys on to something for themselves, not to mention 15 guys to farm troops for someone else. But who knows, maybe kesh knows something I dont.

The same guys farming troops in tulga (15 hosp there) and dusturil castle (7-8 hosp there) never left the fiefs and we saw only a couple occitan come to tulga and dusturil but meanwhile we see the troop counts rising pretty rapidly from people recruiting in significant numbers but when you go inside its still almost entirely hospitallers.  Maybe they are just still oblivious to the fact their leaders gave "sold" the city and castle to Occitan along with 7K troops stockpiled at the time between the two fiefs?  i would hope they at least got arrowaine to pay out some more loom points or looms instead of giving it for next to nothing what would take weeks to build on their own along with the 4th and 5th city/castle they ended up buying/being given since they haven't yet been able to successfully take a castle or city this strategus through fighting.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Butan on May 14, 2013, 11:26:18 pm
NJ on the war map representation : still easy to read, even though there is a lot of information.

Keep it up, BASNAK job is cool but both of you are useful to the strat community.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on June 02, 2013, 01:55:41 am
Bump
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on June 02, 2013, 03:16:28 am
Fimbulvetr broke up, we're giving you more work to do Knute.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Keshian on June 02, 2013, 03:37:13 am
Free Companies of Calradia has made peace with semenstorm and occitan.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Malaclypse on June 02, 2013, 03:47:45 am
Also, MB and HoC split off of VE. AoW doesn't exist as it's own entity more either (merged into FCC), I think, not really sure what's going on there. TPOLICE has officially won the war against the GFORCE Mafia IMO. Hospitaller has ceased to exist as it's own entity as well (merged into Occitan)? Also not really sure what's going on there. Kingdom of Duprix, or at least the fief-holder from that faction, appears to have evaporated in that same vein (merged into Occitan?), as well as HG (merged into FCC). Those Remnant members still active in Strat also seem to have merged into FCC.

EDIT:

Also, a new republic has arisen, sJimmy has formed The Republic of The New Qalyut Republic with one holding, and The Berserks are now a Strategus faction with one holding. The NA Faction (I believe anyways) of RoR has a holding on the EU map.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on June 02, 2013, 04:04:14 am
Shit, I missed a lot of shit.

I'm pretty sure that means we have to add a whole bunch of random ass symbols to our banner now, right?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Matey on June 02, 2013, 05:05:34 am
Shit, I missed a lot of shit.

I'm pretty sure that means we have to add a whole bunch of random ass symbols to our banner now, right?

could prolly do it the same way for AoW, HG and Remnant as it is for Fallen.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Little Lord Lollipop on June 02, 2013, 06:34:31 am
Please make ATTS' Pog:
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Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Matey on June 02, 2013, 08:09:55 am
pretty nice update! but the fimbl thing is confusing since Fimbl is no more and the Ravens are certainly not part of any fimbl faction at this point, and im fairly certain berserk attacked a frisian, not a raven. but yeah im not even sure exactly how all that should look.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Relit on June 02, 2013, 09:01:49 am
Ravens are not part of Fimbulvetr and we are not at war with the Berserks. We are also allied with the Yahtzee party.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on June 02, 2013, 09:03:25 am
I confirm, YP is allied with the Baltimore Ravens.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Inglorious on June 02, 2013, 10:31:14 am
Excuse my ignorance at this time, but does Fimbulvetr exist anymore due to the factions involved splitting to their own respectives?

Also, what happened? What caused the separation?
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: arowaine on June 02, 2013, 10:38:36 am
Considering the amounts of troops you've gotten from EU, both before coming back to NA and after, it's hard to believe you consider yourself weaker than FCC. If anything the amounts of plated troops we killed from you guys shows that.

i must correct you you are in chuburg armor while we were in heraldic mail with surcoat most of the time except for the castle/city figth we were in corizina dont get it wrong.

The same guys farming troops in tulga (15 hosp there) and dusturil castle (7-8 hosp there) never left the fiefs and we saw only a couple occitan come to tulga and dusturil but meanwhile we see the troop counts rising pretty rapidly from people recruiting in significant numbers but when you go inside its still almost entirely hospitallers.  Maybe they are just still oblivious to the fact their leaders gave "sold" the city and castle to Occitan along with 7K troops stockpiled at the time between the two fiefs?  i would hope they at least got arrowaine to pay out some more loom points or looms instead of giving it for next to nothing what would take weeks to build on their own along with the 4th and 5th city/castle they ended up buying/being given since they haven't yet been able to successfully take a castle or city this strategus through fighting.

Well what can i say on that really...im not the one to be blame if people rather sell their city/castle instead of getting wipe off with nothing left :(. But well...we usualy accept americain surrender :P
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Knute on June 02, 2013, 03:24:27 pm
pretty nice update! but the fimbl thing is confusing since Fimbl is no more and the Ravens are certainly not part of any fimbl faction at this point, and im fairly certain berserk attacked a frisian, not a raven. but yeah im not even sure exactly how all that should look.

Excuse my ignorance at this time, but does Fimbulvetr exist anymore due to the factions involved splitting to their own respectives?

Also, what happened? What caused the separation?

I just go by the list of strat factions from the website and upcoming battles, so as long as a faction still has fiefs I leave them up on the chart.  This is just a snapshot of a moment where they're still in transition but once they get all the fiefs transferred back to their original clans and nobody with that tag is active, I'll take Fimbulvetr off the chart.

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Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Conquisitore on June 02, 2013, 04:58:16 pm
Can you please add this banner to the Kingdom of Balde?

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thank you
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Wurdle on June 02, 2013, 05:18:55 pm
Excuse my ignorance at this time, but does Fimbulvetr exist anymore due to the factions involved splitting to their own respectives?

Also, what happened? What caused the separation?

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Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Muki on June 22, 2013, 05:20:30 am
doing a little bump for this
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on July 08, 2013, 08:46:30 am
Bump, this must be revived!
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Vovka on July 08, 2013, 09:10:42 am
try use this
http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-general-discussion/strategus-tool-belt-v1-0-5-3-(improved-interface)/msg819805/#msg819805
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on July 08, 2013, 09:29:49 am
I can't get it to work properly.  I just get a "loading..." that doesn't go away.  Info page is still sorted and the Inventory page isn't sorted at all.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Butan on July 08, 2013, 06:16:11 pm
I can't get it to work properly.  I just get a "loading..." that doesn't go away.  Info page is still sorted and the Inventory page isn't sorted at all.


the "loading" part I get it, but what do you mean with "inventory" page isnt sorted ? the script linked by vovka doesnt modify the inventory page, go to there (http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-general-discussion/strategus-sorted-inventory-%28greasemonkey-script%29/) for it (and look for the modified scripts since chrome is quite incompatible now with the former one)
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on July 21, 2013, 08:26:15 am
plz update :(
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Knute on July 25, 2013, 09:13:08 am
plz update :(

Updated the NA chart a little bit but can't find a list of all the strat factions like this anymore:

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So it's harder to to find out which factions who don't own fiefs still exist or see new factions to add.  Anyway, I'll update the EU chart in the near future but that diplomatic filter they're working on seems like a much better way to do this since everyone can set their own relations.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: Artyem on July 25, 2013, 09:47:51 am
Awesome!  Hopefully in the next (next) update they bring that page back, as well as the faction page link for inviting people.
Title: Re: Wars and Alliances - NA and EU
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on March 14, 2014, 07:52:54 pm
Come onnnn necro post!