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Title: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on April 15, 2012, 01:01:53 am
I'm new to this activity , "hope you treat me nicely" and give feedback if you dislike my performance

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Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Gmnotutoo on April 15, 2012, 01:34:55 am
Can I have no clip?
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on April 15, 2012, 02:35:44 am
Can I have no clip?

Ill give you a horse that doesn't die does that count?
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Jarlek on April 15, 2012, 04:24:37 am
I voted "HOLYSHIT Y U BANN ME bundle of sticks" even though I never play on NA...

:D
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: EyeBeat on April 15, 2012, 02:06:40 pm
Muki is a fine gentleman.

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Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on April 15, 2012, 09:18:51 pm
Muki is a fine gentleman.
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I don't think I would be able to dance like how you white garls do
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Tanken on April 16, 2012, 04:38:13 am
Muki. More like Dookie, amirite?
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Spanish on April 16, 2012, 10:04:32 am
MUKI! Welcome :) Enjoy the newness it will wear off and ppl shall rage
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on April 16, 2012, 10:08:44 am
MUKI! Welcome :) Enjoy the newness it will wear off and ppl shall rage

:) hope I can take most of the heat off you, and the other admins
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Darkkarma on April 16, 2012, 10:09:48 am
Muki-san great admin long time
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Digglez on April 17, 2012, 08:11:09 pm
blah, the quickmeme site doesnt allow linked images
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Earthdforce on April 21, 2012, 08:54:00 am
Muki is an admin?! Good luck man, you're gonna need it!

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Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: MrShine on April 22, 2012, 07:06:42 am
incoming "a lot of people got angry over nothing"
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on April 22, 2012, 07:08:51 am
incoming "a lot of people got angry over nothing"

All part of the job
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Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Kivlov on April 22, 2012, 07:14:36 am
All part of the job
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Was the right call. Miley could've killed Aderyn with his bec out a couple times. Nothing to see here, just people mad Miley got kicked because they're fanbois.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Life on April 22, 2012, 07:18:34 am
In my opinion, Muki is a bad admin that needs to re-read up on the rules.

Example just from today: An archer was clearly trying to kill Miley ( kiting him by running away, shooting, running, shoot ) and Muki tell him to fight or kick, which is against the rules for an admin to do so since the players were following the rules. (i believe Muki ONLY did this to preserve his multi.) After the round had drawn, Muki kicked Miley for chasing down the archer shooting him. That of which is a completely un-necessary kick!

These rules were copied from the post in the announcements section on the post of the official server rules:

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No drawing/delaying the round on purpose (i.e. running away or camping unreachable places when you're one of the last people alive)
OK: running away and shooting enemies that are reachable by projectiles
NOT OK: running away or avoiding confrontation when there is nobody to shoot in range or everyone is behind cover

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Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Xeen on April 22, 2012, 07:29:36 am
Right off the bat, I'll say Muki made the wrong call.

BUT.  You didn't list some important factors here.  First off, it was seconds from a draw, which forced a quick decision from Muki.  I've seen other admins make the exact same mistake before.  Chinaserf was running in base contact with miley punching him and Miley wouldn't turn to kill him.  This made Muki think Miley was just fucking around (which he has a long long long long history of doing).  There were possibly a few times that Miley would have been able to hit aderyn if he had his weapon out, but the movement penalty from having a weapon out may have kept him from getting that close so who knows.  It makes perfect sense that Muki got confused about what was going on, hopefully it won't happen again, especially if it would have cost somebody something(it didn't this time).



Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Kivlov on April 22, 2012, 07:40:57 am
Right off the bat, I'll say Muki made the wrong call.

BUT.  You didn't list some important factors here.  First off, it was seconds from a draw, which forced a quick decision from Muki.  I've seen other admins make the exact same mistake before.  Chinaserf was running in base contact with miley punching him and Miley wouldn't turn to kill him.  This made Muki think Miley was just fucking around (which he has a long long long long history of doing).  There were possibly a few times that Miley would have been able to hit aderyn if he had his weapon out, but the movement penalty from having a weapon out may have kept him from getting that close so who knows.  It makes perfect sense that Muki got confused about what was going on, hopefully it won't happen again, especially if it would have cost somebody something(it didn't this time).
Doesn't weapon on your back not matter? Switching it would've slowed but if he didn't screw around in the first place.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Miley on April 22, 2012, 08:01:36 am
So, since people have already posted on this issue, I suppose I will.

What happened was that I was chasing Aderyn for a while, and it was 3 vs 3. I ended up being the last one left, and I was versus CHINASERFX and Hospitaller_Aderyn. I was chasing him with my Bec sheathed because I found out it makes you run faster (from PW mod). CHINASERFX dismounted and started chasing me with no weapon, and I continued to chase Aderyn. Muki said something like: "fight or kick." I was chasing Aderyn, so I thought he/she was talking to one of the other two. The round ended up as a draw and I was immediately kicked.
None of the three of us deserved a kick--CHINASERFX was technically fighting because he was punching me, Aderyn was kiting, but he was not the last one left, and I was chasing Aderyn.

I understand where Muki is coming from and why he/she decided to kick, but the kick was not warranted. I'm not asking for Muki's admin to be taken away--I'm just stating an incident. There are many witnesses, and what was said after the kick can be seen in chat logs.

This made Muki think Miley was just fucking around (which he has a long long long long history of doing).

Yes, I fool around, but it is nothing serious that infringes the rules. You say I have a long history of doing so, yet I've made many improvements and will continue and like to do so--I don't think it's fair of you to say that. I dont' also think what's happened in the past should be any important in this matter, especially because Muki came here like a few months ago. I don't know how you would know this unless you were Air, as I've heard (doubt).
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on April 22, 2012, 09:58:35 am
because Muki came here like a few months ago.

): i was active on the forums since 2011
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Miley on April 22, 2012, 07:56:11 pm
): i was active on the forums since 2011
because Muki came here like a few months ago.

Since when was a few months ago not 2011?
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: BADPLAYERold on April 22, 2012, 10:45:18 pm
Since when was a few months ago not 2011?

April 2011 is a full year ago (what a terrible thought that is huh?)
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Smoothrich on April 22, 2012, 11:02:20 pm
Muki isn't a bad admin, just new and unfamiliar on how to approach to the common end of round kiting/draw dilemmas that pop up here and there.  Proper reaction for me is to laugh at the server being griefed with a draw and do nothing about it.  Extending time limit used to be viable, but they removed that function for NA admins only.  After all, someone who runs away from combat "kiting" the entire time is playing their class.  Its up to the individual to not be a douchebag and turn to melee or to just run forever and grief.  Sometimes I will type out "stop delaying" but not actually bother kicking or banning.  "If no archers are left, its their fault"  - cmp top dog developer/administrator of all crpg affairs
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Tanken on April 22, 2012, 11:18:27 pm
Wasn't there for the Miley incident, but like others have said, Miley has a history of doing this.

In regards to the above poster who mentioned Muki did this to preserve his multiplier; why did he wait till the round was over to kick Miley?

Also, look in the chat, the general consensus of players online at the time WAS that Miley was not doing things correctly. As an admin, your job is to adhere to the rules, and to the crowds of the server online at that time. If the general message being passed around was that Miley was in-fact not doing what he was supposed to be doing, then Muki makes a call based on that. In your screenshots alone you can see players complaining.

Admins keep the crowds happy, not cater to 1 player out of a server of 120. Sorry folks, I think Muki made the right call, perhaps could have made it even a little quicker than the end of the round so that at least one team got a multiplier. Had Miley's reputation be of one that you constantly see  "Trying" during fights, then perhaps this would be a wrong call. Nothing against Miley, good player when he/she wants to be, but you've got a long reputation of favoring whom you go after on the battlefield and not contributing to fights, as was evident by a player I'm not even sure i know in one of the screenshots who said something relevant to that.



On a side note; Muki's only downside to admining is that he is not native to English, so sometimes players may get lost in translation. Nothing to burden him on his part, he does the right thing and serves Justice faster than any newer admin I've seen to date.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Life on April 22, 2012, 11:21:25 pm
But Miley was abiding by the rules. There wasnt a reason to kick Miley.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Smoothrich on April 22, 2012, 11:52:25 pm
If anyone is griefing, they can pretty much be kicked.  I could kick everyone who delayed or led to a round being drawn to a tie, for "griefing"  "disrupting the server"  or whatever.  Just if you actually bother to enforce this the entire time you get people like you whining in threads about it for no reason so why bother trying to help the server run smoothly at all.

Miley seemed to be holding a "truce" with a china serf while chasing a kiting archer and no one actually damaged anyone and everyone lost their multiplier.  Sucks for everyone, the admin felt like it was a particular player's fault.

Muki will probably think twice in a similar situation in the future on how to best go forward.  Miley doesn't really seem to care, just wanted to explain after the fact how things went down.  Not like there was a multiplier to be lost anyways..

Any continued complaining about this very insignificant, trivial event will henceforth be considered "undue sperging" in everyone's eyes. 

So let us move on with our lives.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Miley on April 23, 2012, 01:33:16 am
Wasn't there for the Miley incident, but like others have said, Miley has a history of doing this.
... and so do admins.

In regards to the above poster who mentioned Muki did this to preserve his multiplier; why did he wait till the round was over to kick Miley?
Could've been looking for my name?

Also, look in the chat, the general consensus of players online at the time WAS that Miley was not doing things correctly. As an admin, your job is to adhere to the rules, and to the crowds of the server online at that time. If the general message being passed around was that Miley was in-fact not doing what he was supposed to be doing, then Muki makes a call based on that. In your screenshots alone you can see players complaining.
Since when was one person saying, "kick him," unknown to who that was directed, and a new player, who I would bet didn't know a sheathed weapon makes you run faster, saying that I could've had 20 kills but I fool around too much, mean a general consensus of players online? There were well over 50 players, I'm sure.
As for the second part of your little paragraph... As an admin, yes, your job is to adhere to the rules, which Muki did not. Adhere to the crowds of the server online at that time? I don't think so. I can remember many times when there's a horse archer left playing his class, many people are complaining, but there is nothing an admin can do about it. Again, a general message being passed around that I was not in-fact doing what I was suppposed to be doing... well your definition of general must be way off, and you must be a little silly to believe that everyone that complains about someone knows the rules. As for the last sentence in that paragraph, yes, a whopping one person was complaining about me.

Admins keep the crowds happy, not cater to 1 player out of a server of 120. Sorry folks, I think Muki made the right call, perhaps could have made it even a little quicker than the end of the round so that at least one team got a multiplier. Had Miley's reputation be of one that you constantly see  "Trying" during fights, then perhaps this would be a wrong call. Nothing against Miley, good player when he/she wants to be, but you've got a long reputation of favoring whom you go after on the battlefield and not contributing to fights, as was evident by a player I'm not even sure i know in one of the screenshots who said something relevant to that.
I always try during my fights in battle, and this was a wrong call by Muki. You say I have a long reputation of favoring whom I go after on the battlefield and not contributing to fights, and yes, maybe I do--but admins, again, don't? Admins are to
keep the crowds happy and not to cater to 1 player out of a server of 120,
didn't you know? As I mentioned above, that player is new, and I will bet he didn't know what I was doing, nor had read all of the rules or was experienced enough.

On a side note; Muki's only downside to admining is that he is not native to English, so sometimes players may get lost in translation. Nothing to burden him on his part, he does the right thing and serves Justice faster than any newer admin I've seen to date.
This is irrelevant, and I haven't even noticed it. Since when was "serving justice" faster than any newer admin "right" all the time. Doesn't it leave a lot of room for errors or misunderstandings?

In all, your post was invalid, partly being because you weren't even there and didn't have access to the chat logs, yet you insisted that a general consensus of players was complaining. Muki made the wrong decision, and I'm sure of it. I've been around since the start of cRPG, and I know the rules, I've read them, and I've experienced the rules. Not to be rude but,
shitposts tbh
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on April 23, 2012, 01:41:51 am
Right lets kill the topic before we all start hating on each other.

I know what I did was wrong, and I'm always looking to improve.

And with the information Miley gave I know how to handle the situation without bring more harm to the community
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: EyeBeat on April 23, 2012, 01:57:24 pm
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Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: karasu on April 23, 2012, 02:09:55 pm
   That particular situation in EU battle servers tends to be solved the same way, after all delaying is delaying. But, most of the times these HA, archers, etc, just engage in melee to end it fast.

It's all part of common sense.


   Also cheers for giving an hand on siege in NA too.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on April 24, 2012, 12:01:01 am
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I like shrimp.

:D so do I

   Also cheers for giving an hand on siege in NA too.

Np hit me up on irc if that happens again
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Earthdforce on April 30, 2012, 11:33:27 am
April 2011 is a full year ago (what a terrible thought that is huh?)
First post just over 5 months ago...
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Slamz on May 08, 2012, 06:14:30 am
Why only a 12 hour ban for this guy?
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,31527.0.html

The screenshot shows a clear beginning-of-round, multiple-hit, obviously not accidental TK.

I've never seen someone get less than a 24 hour ban for a blatant TK.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: OpenPalm on May 08, 2012, 06:46:09 am
I agree.  The punishment shouldn't be any different just because the guy who it was committed against forced a draw the round before.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Darkkarma on May 10, 2012, 01:46:47 pm
To be honest, i've seen plenty twelve hour bans for blatant team kills and even shorter ones from other admins in game for similar infractions. There never really was a consensus or clear written rule stating how long blatant team killing should get someone banned. 12-24 hours has always been pretty much the norm from what i'd seen though. It's pretty much enforced at each admin's individual discretion. Twelve hours is still a pretty hefty ban for a first time offender anyway.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Tyrianstrasz on May 11, 2012, 09:11:08 am
It's all got to do with previous offenses methinks, more offences, longer punishment.

Regardless, Goodmin.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Lorden on May 13, 2012, 09:06:30 am
Definite Goodmin.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: OpenPalm on May 13, 2012, 10:11:14 am
I got a 24h ban on first offense for killing Poophammer from Muki.  No hard feelings, just evidence to the contrary.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Spook Island on May 17, 2012, 11:44:50 am
Another example of Muki being a lousy, biased admin

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,32034.0.html
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Spanish on May 17, 2012, 10:17:27 pm
Spook you have hardly any credibility to be calling Muki a lazy and biased admin when your such a menace and griefer in game.

Muki is a good admin and I hope she continues this.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Shadowren on May 17, 2012, 11:41:59 pm
Muki is one of the better admins and i hope he keeps up the good work  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Mustikki on May 18, 2012, 02:00:47 am
Muki is a great admin!
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Tyrianstrasz on May 21, 2012, 10:43:07 am
Great Admin
Greatmin
Gremin
Gremlin

The truth is now revealed.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on May 21, 2012, 11:23:29 am
Great Admin
Greatmin
Gremin
Gremlin

The truth is now revealed.

LOL good play on words :)
Title: Muki has a loose Puki
Post by: BootyBuster on May 26, 2012, 11:40:37 am
He stands up for his boyfriend PonyBrd and his gay little capapult him and his friends made in a duel server. I entered the game, hit it 4 times when it was already fucked up and it broke. They cry and put a ban poll in. Muki comes around, see's his boyfrend in distress and just ignores the poll abuse.

Then says "me" hitting the stupid catapult in the "duel server" is griefing. Wtf is this made up term "griefing" Because it makes no sense. Little kids making up gay ass sayings to call things that make them sad?

I will break any piece of crap I see being built in the duel server if I want to. It's a duel server, not a fucking Sim's build your own house or some bs.

Muki is a terrible admin who supports pussies. Probably because he is one.

So a ban Poll because I hit his little gay toy and broke it. Which took place in about 5 seconds. That's poll abuse and Muki isnt doing his job.

Title: Re: Muki has a loose Puki
Post by: Christo on May 26, 2012, 11:48:03 am
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Title: Re: Muki has a loose Puki
Post by: Bulzur on May 26, 2012, 12:18:27 pm
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Title: Re: Muki has a loose Puki
Post by: BootyBuster on May 26, 2012, 12:43:41 pm
To Christo and your Boyfriend Balls.

I cannot die in the picture of a fire you posted online. But you did a good job googling fire pictures. Good on you.

I'll continue making you my bitches in the game
Title: Re: Muki has a loose Puki
Post by: Christo on May 26, 2012, 01:04:51 pm
Scum.
Title: Re: Muki has a loose Puki
Post by: Muki on May 26, 2012, 01:25:35 pm
He stands up for his boyfriend PonyBrd and his gay little capapult him and his friends made in a duel server. I entered the game, hit it 4 times when it was already fucked up and it broke. They cry and put a ban poll in. Muki comes around, see's his boyfrend in distress and just ignores the poll abuse.

Then says "me" hitting the stupid catapult in the "duel server" is griefing. Wtf is this made up term "griefing" Because it makes no sense. Little kids making up gay ass sayings to call things that make them sad?

I will break any piece of crap I see being built in the duel server if I want to. It's a duel server, not a fucking Sim's build your own house or some bs.

Muki is a terrible admin who supports pussies. Probably because he is one.


So a ban Poll because I hit his little gay toy and broke it. Which took place in about 5 seconds. That's poll abuse and Muki isnt doing his job.

I do believe you should do some research what griefing is.

Here some starters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Griefing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griefer
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=griefing
Google Griefing

Quote
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2606.0.html
No malicious griefing of teammates (kickspamming, blocking, etc.)
"first rule of em all: common sense"
    ~ chadz

If you disagree with the rules above I'm pretty sure cmpxchg8b would be happy to listen to your complains :)
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Xeen on May 26, 2012, 01:31:24 pm
You're obviously doing a great job Muki, Baronbootybuster is living proof! 

In the off-chance that you're open to any amount of reason, Baron, duel really is the only decent place to test siegecraft.  From what I have seen, duel is used primarily as something of a "test" server. 
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: BootyBuster on May 26, 2012, 11:06:40 pm
Good job citing Wiki as a sorce for a made up term for pussies in within gaming. Griefing makes no sense plus its a lame saying come up with another. People CRIED for me hitting their dumb shit they made, you got it? It looks like their griefing
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on May 26, 2012, 11:08:38 pm
Good job citing Wiki as a sorce for a made up term for pussies in within gaming. Griefing makes no sense plus its a lame saying come up with another. People CRIED for me hitting their dumb shit they made, you got it? It looks like their griefing

Quote

    http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2606.0.html
    No malicious griefing of teammates (kickspamming, blocking, etc.)
    "first rule of em all: common sense"
        ~ chadz


If you disagree with the rules above I'm pretty sure cmpxchg8b would be happy to listen to your complains :)
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: BootyBuster on May 26, 2012, 11:11:38 pm
In the duel server no one is your team mate so that ones out.

I hit it 4 times it broke. So I think your wrong and your twisting this "griefing" bullshit to anything anyone does that the person dislikes
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on May 27, 2012, 12:42:28 am
Quote

    http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2606.0.html
    No malicious griefing of teammates (kickspamming, blocking, etc.)
    "first rule of em all: common sense"
        ~ chadz



If you disagree with the rules above I'm pretty sure cmpxchg8b would be happy to listen to your complains :)

If you have anymore complains cmpxchg8b will take your complains about the questioning on the rules I just enforce it
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Rainbow on May 27, 2012, 01:51:28 am
Breaking siege equipment on a duel server where they are testing shit is kind of bullshit.  Just don't do it.  How would you like it if these engineers had fairy powers and could make your wep dissapear while you are dueling.  Wouldn't be very fun would it?
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Jarlek on May 27, 2012, 03:58:42 pm
I think that all he wants is a permaban.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: MrShine on May 27, 2012, 11:09:29 pm
A good admin all around.

Recent ban of both WallaceBRD and Kaoklai of 24 hours each.  Personally given the context of both (Kaoklai being slightly humorous in a 10v1 situation, while Wallace says "friend" as a reply) I would have given Wallace more than 24 hours.

Still just a minor complaint, nothing substantial.

Also if BaronBootyBuster is angry at an admin I consider that a seal of approval.. any admin he approves of would have my immediate scrutiny.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on June 01, 2012, 11:15:44 pm
Idea should I use 2d8 for ban time :D
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Jarlek on June 02, 2012, 04:35:30 am
Idea should I use 2d8 for ban time :D
Yes! Also take a picture of the result and post it for zeh lulz!
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Auphilia on June 07, 2012, 01:34:30 am
The other day Muki banned my friend for 5 hours because she lost connection during the game and rejoined. She had no history of being banned. She was doing absolutely nothing wrong. No warning, no explanation, no nothing. Muki just felt she deserved a 5 hour ban for losing connection in a game and rejoining. I spoke to the devs about the incident and one of them clearly states that what my friend did is not a bannable offense especially if it was the first time. If done repetitively, then yes a ban could be issued. However that was not the case, and Muki lacked the responsibility to warn her, or even ask her why she left and rejoined the game in the first place. He just instantly issued the "5" hour ban.

I will also add that this was after he attempted to insulted both me and my friend by calling us virgins. We did not provoke this behavior, nor did we retaliate with insults of our own. We had been playing with Muki that night for over an hour and not once did either of us do anything wrong. I believe there was no justification for a 5 hour ban and Muki has abused his administrative privileges.

Although I can not confirm this, apparently people in the game convinced Muki that what he did was wrong and he lifted the ban. However, this does not excuse his unjustified behavior.

Again, I'm not sure what provoked this behavior. The only thing that I have ever done to him that might spark ill-feelings is kick him out of a previous clan of mine. Which was decided upon by the clan, and not just myself. This was months ago. Other than that, I'm not sure why he chooses to insult me or my friends or abuse his administrative privileges to harass us.

If you, Muki, did realize that you had made a mistake and unbanned my friend, I think it would be appropriate to apologize to her. She has been very concerned when playing while you are online ever since then.

If you still have hard feelings about being removed from RL or not quickly enough being accepted into Hyrule, I would ask that you set whatever ill-feelings you have aside and move on. Personally, I want nothing to do with you and I do not wish for any further insults/bans directed towards me or my friends. Thank you.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on June 07, 2012, 01:38:42 am
Sorry It was 5am in the morning I had no sleep, wasn't too sure if your friend was banned before (I go by CD-Key which shows after the ban) It was spotted by Fallen_Vaso saying your friend spawned twice, do hope we don't get this misunderstanding again.

If you feel uncomfortable (due to our past clan history) with me handling ban/kick/mute request about your friends,  I will redirect any of the requests to another admin.

And Yes I will Apologize for my mistake, through I do not know her Forum name to send an PM at the time of the ban.

If your friend doesn't want to accept the apology than it is understandable 
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Auphilia on June 07, 2012, 03:06:35 am
I'll tell her you apologized about the ban.

But that still doesn't explain the unprovoked insults. What was that about? Did we offend you in any way? Why would you attempt to insulting us?

Just felt like being rude at the time? We don't understand.  :?

Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Jarlek on June 07, 2012, 03:07:08 am
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,33393.msg0.html#new

Awesome way to decide ban length :D
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on June 07, 2012, 03:11:05 am
I'll tell her you apologized about the ban.

But that still doesn't explain the unprovoked insults. What was that about? Did we offend you in any way? Why would you attempt to insulting us?

Just felt like being rude at the time? We don't understand.  :?

If you mean me making fun of the Zelda Lore thats.... me making fun of the Zelda Lore :)
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Auphilia on June 07, 2012, 03:31:27 am
Well I'm sure you understand how that could be misleading, but okay. lol
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: JasonPastman on June 18, 2012, 04:46:33 am
Muki posted this earlier


"Re: Ban Remanant_Sauce
« Reply #7 on: Today at 01:31:26 »
Roll(2d20)+0:
1,15,+0
Total:16
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/526/21532248.png/

16h ban"

WTF!
So now bans come down to the roll of dice?  WTF happened to the rule of LAW!!!  THIS IS SOME SICK FUCKED UP SHIT AND ITS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!!!(sorry about the caps but this is really disturbing)  WTF HAPPENED TO WISDOM AND JUSTICE! THIS SHIT IS A JOKE AND I HOPE WHO EVER RUNS THIS SHIT HAS THE BRAINS TO PUT SUCH SICK PRACTICES TO AN END!

The people here put there hearts into this game, it's the only way to become good.  No matter what they do they deserve to be treated like people not some fucking toys to be played games with.  HAVE A LITTLE RESPECT MUKI!


Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on June 18, 2012, 04:47:51 am
Muki posted this earlier


"Re: Ban Remanant_Sauce
« Reply #7 on: Today at 01:31:26 »
Roll(2d20)+0:
1,15,+0
Total:16
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/526/21532248.png/

16h ban"

WTF!
So now bans come down to the roll of dice?  WTF happened to the rule of LAW!!!  THIS IS SOME SICK FUCKED UP SHIT AND ITS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!!!(sorry about the caps but this is really disturbing)  WTF HAPPENED TO WISDOM AND JUSTICE! THIS SHIT IS A JOKE AND I HOPE WHO EVER RUNS THIS SHIT HAS THE BRAINS TO PUT SUCH SICK PRACTICES TO AN END!

Lmao calm down People voted (in this thread) for how I should do my bans for the month of June (since everyone seems to be complaining about my ban times already) the vote went for 2D20 and that how it went

The vote took place last month
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: JasonPastman on June 18, 2012, 04:50:45 am
People are trolls BESIDES your a fucking admin thought you were above that shit. If we always trusted polls then we wouldn't have a need for admins no? (Kick/Ban/Polls)
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on June 18, 2012, 04:53:53 am
People are troll BESIDES your a fucking admin thought you were above that shit

mmm I don't believe I'm being paid to be a admin, plus if you haven't notice this community/internet is full of trolls. If you dislike how the vote went we can do an Revote since I do admin the NA server so can't people vote for the way they want there ban time to be?

If you dislike voting doesn't democracy sucks :/
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: JasonPastman on June 18, 2012, 04:56:48 am
This isn't a fucking democracy bro, your an admin.  Democracy would be polls only no admins.  Time to hit the books muki!
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on June 18, 2012, 05:09:42 am
This isn't a fucking democracy bro, your an admin.  Democracy would be polls only no admins.  Time to hit the books muki!

Do I look like your Bush/Obama/whatever government you have?? I don't believe chadz has written a manual for admins.

Rolling is also useful since it removes the human emotions/attachment to the player/subject, this way we don't get this
Quote
tell one of your friendly admins to ban you so it wont be as harsh.. which is what is going to happen



but here a quote from Cmp if your looking forward to my replacement  :)
Quote
Admins are human too, so mistakes can happen. We are terribly sorry for not being perfect and are working on replacing all players and admins with computers for optimal performance.


If you really dislike the way i handle this ban suggest an new way for bans to be handle in this thread and Ill post up a poll
 (after all were here to help the community)
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: JasonPastman on June 18, 2012, 05:35:52 am
Look I'm not hating and this is not personal, it's the method.  When you determine peoples fates the same way you determine the damage of a hit in dungeon's and dragon's, things are seriously fucked up.  People's lives are not a game and should be treated with respect.  Not only does this method discredit the sentence but it discredits the whole judgement.   How can you expect people to respect you or your decisions if you don't actually make them, instead choosing the method from d&d.  This community needs wise admins that we can depend on and look to for their insightful decisions and the courage to make them.  When you leave your job up to dice you no longer are doing your job and you allow the dice to do it for you, essentially transferring your responsibly to the community onto the dice.

You said
Rolling is also useful since it removes the human emotions/attachment to the player/subject, this way we don't get this 

If you really dislike the way i handle this ban suggest an new way for bans to be handle in this thread and Ill post up a poll
 (after all were here to help the community)

This is your job, to make tough decision even when people might not like the results.  Rolling dice is a definitely a convenient way out of that. Polls to are a convenient way to divert responsibility from ones self.  Being an admin is a great responsibility and should not be left of to games of chance.

As far as the
Do I look like your Bush/Obama/whatever government you have?? I don't believe chadz has written a manual for admins.
   

America is not a democracy it's a republic, and I'm sorry he left you no manual, perhaps it would be wise to follow the examples of your more respected colleagues.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: MrShine on June 18, 2012, 05:32:01 pm
Jason calm down man.

2d 20 is anywhere from 2-40 hours for a general ban.  Most of the time I see bans given from other admins that are between 12-24 hours.  So really, Muki's dice will probably average out to the same general time per ban as everyone else.

It's not like someone's innocence is being decided based on a dice roll, just their punishment for the 'usual' bannable actions.

Personally I find it funny/awesome Muki is doing this.  I think you might be taking this a wee bit too seriously.

Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Zaren on June 18, 2012, 05:40:13 pm
Look I'm not hating and this is not personal, it's the method.  When you determine peoples fates the same way you determine the damage of a hit in dungeon's and dragon's, things are seriously fucked up.  People's lives are not a game and should be treated with respect.  Not only does this method discredit the sentence but it discredits the whole judgement.   How can you expect people to respect you or your decisions if you don't actually make them, instead choosing the method from d&d.  This community needs wise admins that we can depend on and look to for their insightful decisions and the courage to make them.  When you leave your job up to dice you no longer are doing your job and you allow the dice to do it for you, essentially transferring your responsibly to the community onto the dice.

You said
This is your job, to make tough decision even when people might not like the results.  Rolling dice is a definitely a convenient way out of that. Polls to are a convenient way to divert responsibility from ones self.  Being an admin is a great responsibility and should not be left of to games of chance.

As far as the   

America is not a democracy it's a republic, and I'm sorry he left you no manual, perhaps it would be wise to follow the examples of your more respected colleagues.
..........gtfo and calm your shit Id rather have a little comedy/chance to a ban then "YOU 24 hours"




WTF!
So now bans come down to the roll of dice?  WTF happened to the rule of LAW!!!  THIS IS SOME SICK FUCKED UP SHIT AND ITS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!!!(sorry about the caps but this is really disturbing)  WTF HAPPENED TO WISDOM AND JUSTICE! THIS SHIT IS A JOKE AND I HOPE WHO EVER RUNS THIS SHIT HAS THE BRAINS TO PUT SUCH SICK PRACTICES TO AN END!

The people here put there hearts into this game, it's the only way to become good.  No matter what they do they deserve to be treated like people not some fucking toys to be played games with.  HAVE A LITTLE RESPECT MUKI!

Lol remember its a game. And also remember you're putting your heart into a game that will eventually die.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: JasonPastman on June 19, 2012, 01:05:23 am
Why do you guys quote so much my shits right there?
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: JasonPastman on July 10, 2012, 03:18:45 am
Once again Muki has abused his power by muting me for 3 rounds for no good reason!

When will this tyranny come to an end!

Edit:  muke here are the the rules, (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2606.0.html).  Please tell me which one I broke.  Otherwise I think I am due for an apologie.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on July 10, 2012, 05:17:42 am
Once again Muki has abused his power by muting me for 3 rounds for no good reason!

When will this tyranny come to an end!

Edit:  muke here are the the rules, (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2606.0.html).  Please tell me which one I broke.  Otherwise I think I am due for an apologie.

No abuse of in-game chat (racism, insulting, griefing...)
No random kick/ban polls. Always specify reason before starting a poll
Calling some a my old friend as a reason for an Kickpoll than spamming it over (when the server was annoy enough of you spamming it) is not a valid reason for the Kick Poll
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: JasonPastman on July 10, 2012, 05:26:50 am
LOL...

First of the poll wasn't started by me.

Second off I said my old friend in chat twice (as the logs will confirm) and not directed towards anyone.  Furthermore let me define my old friend for you.

verb (used with object)
1.
to tire or weary by labor; exhaust (often followed by out ): The long climb my old friendged us out.
2.
British . to require (a younger public-school pupil) to do menial chores.
3.
Nautical . to fray or unlay the end of (a rope).

noun
6.
Slang . a cigarette.
7.
a my old friend end,  as of cloth.
8.
a rough or defective spot in a woven fabric; blemish; flaw.
9.
Chiefly British . drudgery; toil.
10.
British Informal . a younger pupil in a British public school required to perform certain menial tasks for, and submit to the hazing of, an older pupil.
(Source Dictionary.com)

So again what rule have I broken and where is my apology?


Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on July 10, 2012, 05:37:21 am
believe you forgot the modern day version of my old friend

my old friend (Fäg) n. 1. An extremely annoying, inconsiderate person; could be loud, rude, or of offensive nature.
You say something and your friend says something rude back.
You - "I was just making a point. You didn't have to act like a total my old friend."
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: JasonPastman on July 10, 2012, 05:51:59 am
Without sourcing something you could just be making it up.

Anyways,not sure if your trying to insult me, but ether way the point is that I didn't break any rules and I deserve an apology or at least an acknowledgement that you made a mistake.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: JasonPastman on July 10, 2012, 05:58:32 am
believe you forgot the modern day version of my old friend

my old friend (Fäg) n. 1. An extremely annoying, inconsiderate person; could be loud, rude, or of offensive nature.
You say something and your friend says something rude back.
You - "I was just making a point. You didn't have to act like a total my old friend."

LoL...

Just thought i would point out that based on your definition isn't that a good reason to vote 1...
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on July 10, 2012, 06:01:18 am
Without sourcing something you could just be making it up.

Anyways,not sure if your trying to insult me, but ether way the point is that I didn't break any rules and I deserve an apology or at least an acknowledgement that you made a mistake.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=my old friend

Enjoy :D

But if you really want to acknowledge the mistake sure but what done is done I did unmute you on the 4th round and it seems your combat (and K/D) did improve while muted
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: JasonPastman on July 10, 2012, 06:09:09 am
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=my old friend

Enjoy :D

But if you really want to acknowledge the mistake sure but what done is done I did unmute you on the 4th round and it seems your combat (and K/D) did improve while muted

Thanks that's all i was asking for, and yah i play better when wronged... :twisted:

P.S. Urban dictionary THAT'S AS BAD A WIKIPEDIA...jeeeeeeeeeez
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Smoothrich on July 10, 2012, 06:28:21 am
LOL...

First of the poll wasn't started by me.

Second off I said my old friend in chat twice (as the logs will confirm) and not directed towards anyone.  Furthermore let me define my old friend for you.

verb (used with object)
1.
to tire or weary by labor; exhaust (often followed by out ): The long climb my old friendged us out.
2.
British . to require (a younger public-school pupil) to do menial chores.
3.
Nautical . to fray or unlay the end of (a rope).

noun
6.
Slang . a cigarette.
7.
a my old friend end,  as of cloth.
8.
a rough or defective spot in a woven fabric; blemish; flaw.
9.
Chiefly British . drudgery; toil.
10.
British Informal . a younger pupil in a British public school required to perform certain menial tasks for, and submit to the hazing of, an older pupil.
(Source Dictionary.com)

So again what rule have I broken and where is my apology?

This is a terrible troll.  If you are going to grief an admin by accusing them of abuse and breaking rules, don't admit to calling someone a my old friend repeatedly while spamming polls against them, which is two rules broken at once.  Also, are you saying you tried to poll kick someone off the server because they were a cigarette?
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: genric on July 11, 2012, 02:34:17 am
LOL...

First of the poll wasn't started by me.

Second off I said my old friend in chat twice (as the logs will confirm) and not directed towards anyone.  Furthermore let me define my old friend for you.

verb (used with object)
1.
to tire or weary by labor; exhaust (often followed by out ): The long climb my old friendged us out.
2.
British . to require (a younger public-school pupil) to do menial chores.
3.
Nautical . to fray or unlay the end of (a rope).

noun
6.
Slang . a cigarette.
7.
a my old friend end,  as of cloth.
8.
a rough or defective spot in a woven fabric; blemish; flaw.
9.
Chiefly British . drudgery; toil.
10.
British Informal . a younger pupil in a British public school required to perform certain menial tasks for, and submit to the hazing of, an older pupil.
(Source Dictionary.com)

So again what rule have I broken and where is my apology?

You are missing 4 and 5
If you include those the admins will have no choice but believe what you have to say and everyone will gather behind you as you lead this revolt.
You must find the missing pieces of the puzzle! Go! Now!
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: JasonPastman on July 13, 2012, 10:13:35 pm
WTF MUKI!

that's some bull shit if I have ever seen it!
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Bjord on July 13, 2012, 10:16:48 pm
First and official animu gyaru forumite~desunee?
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: JasonPastman on July 13, 2012, 11:53:26 pm
Muki real lame move on the 24 hour ban for some made up post from a troll. I'm moving on from it because I live here, but jesus there was an admin on the server when this went on you didn't have to jump to conclusions.

I dunno who you are or w/e but in your position you gotta consider all the facts, if you did  you would have seen what that guys was up to.

Muki you didn't even give me a chance and I did deserved that, not like I was disrupting the flow of battle, bothering anyone, delaying or knowingly breaking any rules, just out in the open being chased by an HA...



 
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Spanish on July 15, 2012, 10:11:50 pm
Supah excited for that avatar you're gona draw me haha
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: LordBerenger on July 15, 2012, 10:40:41 pm
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=my old friend

Enjoy :D

But if you really want to acknowledge the mistake sure but what done is done I did unmute you on the 4th round and it seems your combat (and K/D) did improve while muted

Draw me a special weaboo avatar just for me too! :D

ORE WA..HENTAI!


Also


Supah excited for that avatar you're gona draw me haha

Avatar 10/10 would fuck
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: genric on July 21, 2012, 08:33:47 pm
Muki is not a loser. It has been declared. And is now known by all!
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Spanish on July 21, 2012, 08:59:43 pm
Muki is bestmin


Nuff said
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on July 22, 2012, 04:38:00 am
mmmm guess ill draw a new picture than probably in an week or two
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: LordBerenger on July 22, 2012, 08:48:51 am
mmmm guess ill draw a new picture than probably in an week or two


Draw me a cool one and you no longer bestmin or goodmin....you're...EPICMIN!
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Ohayashi on July 22, 2012, 09:28:15 am
I have a vested interest in seeing Muki fail.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on July 25, 2012, 10:26:52 pm
T.T they took down one of my art storage accounts, guess ill reuse those pictures here :/
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: genric on July 26, 2012, 06:23:36 am
T.T they took down one of my art storage accounts, guess ill reuse those pictures here :/

why do that? were they inappropriate?
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: LordBerenger on July 26, 2012, 12:10:39 pm
why do that? were they inappropriate?


Considering Muki makes awesome lolicons whadddyathink? XD
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: genric on July 26, 2012, 07:09:43 pm

Considering Muki makes awesome lolicons whadddyathink? XD

I guess I didn't make my question suggestive enough haha, I figured but I don't know muki well enough to assume
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on July 26, 2012, 09:21:44 pm
Draw me a special weaboo avatar just for me too! :D

ORE WA..HENTAI!


mmm done drawing it enjoy  :?

Also going to take a break abit from drawing this one took a lot of effort
(I think i over did it)
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: LordBerenger on July 26, 2012, 09:24:02 pm
mmm done drawing it enjoy  :?

Were? Your avatar? OMG GIEF LINK!
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: LordBerenger on July 26, 2012, 11:22:15 pm
It's weird having same avatar :/
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on July 26, 2012, 11:25:56 pm
It's weird having same avatar :/

:/ ill work on a new one than but later
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: LordBerenger on July 26, 2012, 11:31:30 pm
:/ ill work on a new one than but later



MY NAME IS MUKI!...Jk...or AM I!?!?!1  :)
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Bulzur on July 26, 2012, 11:46:38 pm
Doesn't allow people to test kickpolling with the beta client, to see if getting kicked by the people gives an error.

Well, at least i know getting kicked by an admin doesn't give any error message. So thanks for that i guess.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on July 27, 2012, 12:03:36 am
Doesn't allow people to test kickpolling with the beta client, to see if getting kicked by the people gives an error.

Well, at least i know getting kicked by an admin doesn't give any error message. So thanks for that i guess.


Don't remember you noir did i kick anyone with your clan tags. If this is a complain for another admin here a tip

Quote
No random kick/ban polls. Always specify reason before starting a poll
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 27, 2012, 04:10:23 am
Doesn't allow people to test kickpolling with the beta client, to see if getting kicked by the people gives an error.

Well, at least i know getting kicked by an admin doesn't give any error message. So thanks for that i guess.

(click to show/hide)
Sorry to disappoint you but Muki isn't Mustikki...
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Bobthehero on July 27, 2012, 04:13:46 am
I think the girl on Spanish avatar is prettier.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: genric on July 27, 2012, 05:57:05 am
I think the girl on Spanish avatar is prettier.

Nope both of Muki pictures, sig and avatar, are adorable and much more higher up then spanish.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: LordBerenger on July 27, 2012, 10:39:27 am
I think the girl on Spanish avatar is prettier.


HOW DARE YOU REJECT THE KAWAINEEESSSS IN THIS?

<33333333333333333333

This 1 is so SUGOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Bobthehero on July 27, 2012, 10:51:09 am
Too much weaboo, Spaniard picture is alright weaboo-wise tho.

Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: TurmoilTom on July 27, 2012, 04:53:15 pm
My avatar is so kawaii~~~wwwwwwwwww
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Spanish on July 27, 2012, 05:09:12 pm
Pretty amazing she's holding bowl of rice and covering herself that's multi-taskin it purty gewd :P

And muki did a great job on my avatar haha super happy it came out so awesome
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on July 29, 2012, 12:49:57 pm
T.T they resized the forum picture so their small now

Cmp fixed it praise to the Supreme Overlord

Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Spanish on July 31, 2012, 01:54:34 am
^ pretty! I think you got lucky muki ;P
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on July 31, 2012, 01:55:42 am
^ pretty! I think you got lucky muki ;P

same  :oops:
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Spanish on July 31, 2012, 02:02:14 am
I usually go for those tiny lil Filipino girls until I happen along a beautiful blonde ;)
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on July 31, 2012, 02:05:54 am
I usually go for those tiny lil Filipino girls until I happen along a beautiful blonde ;)

I don't like Filip too much :/ there great friends through
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: JasonPastman on August 05, 2012, 02:27:33 am
Muki's application for forum mod

Ill apply

Maturity - None from what I hear
Intelligence - Nope don't even know how I'm a admin
Cool-Headedness - Acceptable level
Charme - None

Ready for the death sentence :)
(click to show/hide)

Well at least we agree about something.  :lol:
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Vanhohenheim on August 05, 2012, 04:42:01 am
どうして ここに 人たちな ばか いますか?
すみません、私の 日本語が じょうず でわありません。
そして、むきさんわ adminが すごいです。
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on August 05, 2012, 05:06:12 am
コメントありがとうございました。

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Vanhohenheim on August 05, 2012, 05:19:51 am
いいえいいえ,むきさんの 日本語が とってもじょうぞです。
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on August 05, 2012, 05:22:52 am
inorganic acid? are you using google translate?
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Vanhohenheim on August 05, 2012, 05:28:20 am
nope, which part is the inorganic acid?
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Vanhohenheim on August 05, 2012, 05:31:26 am
AH fuck i spotted the mistake, not used to the romaji keyboard.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on August 08, 2012, 04:15:00 am
Donnnneeeee! hope this water mark good enough

(click to show/hide)

Edit If it's too big Right click to view it
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Ganner on August 09, 2012, 09:38:41 pm
Very nicerru.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: JasonPastman on August 10, 2012, 04:44:40 am
An artist... that explains it.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 11, 2012, 06:36:33 pm
An artist... that explains it.

Explains what? The artistic way that Muki slay enemies on the battlefield, or the upbeat attitude?
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: genric on August 12, 2012, 05:32:58 am
The creative things she says when she bans people. Or is that ganner?
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: JasonPastman on August 16, 2012, 02:47:47 am
logic and reason seldom compliment individuals who substitute imagination for reality.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Spook Island on August 17, 2012, 07:05:18 pm
I've been watching Muki admin for a while now, especially now that I'm back playing from a 2+ month vacation from the internet, and while she does get a little overbearing at times, her heart is in the right place and she isn't reacting out of personal spite like we see with far too many admins these days.  For that reason, I've repealed my negative vote and changed it to a positive. 

However, don't let it go to your head Muki, because I'm still watching you.

"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"

Spook facit, baby

Spook facit
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on August 18, 2012, 07:39:51 am

"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"


Who will watch the watchmen?
(click to show/hide)

It always good to hear that I am improving, Thanks for the feedback 
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Emotion on September 22, 2012, 02:43:47 pm
CUTE TOUGH ROUGH DOWN AND OUT.

I don't know what that means or where I was going with it.
Pretty good badmin tho, I mean Admin. :D
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: genric on September 22, 2012, 05:45:27 pm
I might even call muki a goodmin

GJ for having Canary back muki, Shows unity in the Adminship
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on October 30, 2012, 05:40:15 am
Seems my admining been pretty good this month :D

bumping this thread for those looking for a place to complain
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: EyeBeat on October 31, 2012, 09:19:10 am
I might even call muki a goodmin

GJ for having Canary back muki, Shows unity in the Adminship

Yeah great job canary for suggesting muki as an admin!
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: JasonPastman on November 02, 2012, 09:38:19 am
While Muki seems like an ok person IRL, this admin still abuses admin chat, bans when there is no need, and has a general scene of superiority.

Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on November 02, 2012, 09:43:42 am
I believe I have the most cases of admin abuses. Compare to other admins

btw what do you mean by general scene of superiority.?
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Rikthor on November 02, 2012, 09:51:32 pm
Sense is probably what he meant, like you act like you are superior towards other people or something.





I have no opinion on Muki other than the animes should always be -'d :mrgreen:
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Uumdi on November 02, 2012, 10:46:38 pm
Props on your diligence.

Even saw you apologize for a ban request that slipped through the cracks for a few days, and solved the problem.  Honesty and integrity right there.  Never seen an admin so active.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on November 03, 2012, 04:22:17 am
Just finish a avatar for Karma probably going let Karma show it off before posting it
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Shadowren on November 03, 2012, 01:57:28 pm
Muki is a good admin any way he never made me a avatar D:
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: genric on November 03, 2012, 05:45:40 pm
muki bans people and makes awesome drawings, jelly :)
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on November 05, 2012, 02:56:14 am
haha it's seems I finally got a warning from the diplomacy thread.


Anyways here the Karma Avatar posted

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Yes she is diving not jumping
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Spanish on November 05, 2012, 04:52:31 pm
That one really captures karma's ability with a xbow...
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on November 14, 2012, 02:28:22 am
New drawing done.
visitors can't see pics , please register or login


Inspiration come from when I was lurking around found my gf playing the guitar.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: genric on November 14, 2012, 05:57:24 pm
You should make a new thread where it is your drawing thread so you can show off your drawings or progress on drawings but also other people can share theirs too. Then you can also make a few help guides for doodling :) Seems like it might be fun
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Epic_Giant on December 02, 2012, 11:04:38 am
Muki Is My Favourite Admin :3

even tho i dont play in NA too much theese days :D

Muki <3<3 :3
Muki Is Thy Best Of Thy Watchers! Attleast For Thy NorthMen
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Goretooth on December 03, 2012, 12:08:32 pm
Best admin
Btw you
Need to play more rts games with me and phantom
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on December 16, 2012, 07:29:36 pm
Drew some new drawings hope you guys like it
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Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Dalfador on December 16, 2012, 08:59:11 pm
i really like this one

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Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on January 10, 2013, 09:29:17 am
Got bored while studying so I drew this
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Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: BADPLAYER_old2 on January 12, 2013, 04:10:05 pm
Awesome drawings man keep it up :)
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Rumblood on January 13, 2013, 06:39:02 am
Awesome drawings man keep it up :)

Why on earth would a_bear_irl downvote this comment? Maybe he needs an I <3 BadPlayer title  :lol:
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 29, 2013, 03:57:52 am
Nice work on Shadowren's avatar!


I would like to request the original size, if you have it and are willing to give it out.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Shadowren on January 29, 2013, 04:10:04 am
I would like to request the original size, if you have it and are willing to give it out.

NO!

Amazing Avatar tho  :mrgreen: Thanks Muki
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 29, 2013, 05:54:57 am
NO!

Amazing Avatar tho  :mrgreen: Thanks Muki


haha, alrighty then, never mind  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on January 29, 2013, 06:12:09 am
Nice work on Shadowren's avatar!


I would like to request the original size, if you have it and are willing to give it out.

Will upload it later

Upload after forgetting about uploading it :D
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Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Shadowren on January 29, 2013, 10:35:06 pm
Will upload it later

Idk

Perma Banned.

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Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on March 25, 2013, 12:29:07 am
After being slammed by Gmnotutoo unicorn I have drew a picture for her/him. Enjoy!ヽ( ゚д゚)ノ
Character design was based off Tenrou Kunagi from Big bang ape

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Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Gmnotutoo on March 25, 2013, 03:04:34 am
After being slammed by Gmnotutoo unicorn I have drew a picture for her/him. Enjoy!ヽ( ゚д゚)ノ
Character design was based off Tenrou Kunagi from Big bang ape

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I'm a rough lover <3.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Dach on March 25, 2013, 03:21:09 am
Nice one... again! :D
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Ganner on March 25, 2013, 02:30:01 pm
+1 would admin again.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on March 25, 2013, 05:39:34 pm
After being slammed by Gmnotutoo unicorn I have drew a picture for her/him. Enjoy!ヽ( ゚д゚)ノ
Character design was based off Tenrou Kunagi from Big bang ape

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I have said it before, but so you don't forget, I really respect your artistic talent, Muki.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Gmnotutoo on March 25, 2013, 05:50:02 pm
^.^ I love my picture.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 26, 2013, 12:30:19 am
Aw you haven't made one of my awesome weeaboo self! I even went full samurai this time, Yumi, arrows, Katana, Waki and a horse!(and the armor too)

Also I don't see gmno online much. I need a hunter :twisted:
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Maple_Syrup on March 26, 2013, 05:04:50 am
only came here to look at your pictures, they're pretty sick. 10/10 would come back again
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on March 28, 2013, 11:33:38 pm
This is from my friend Shingetsu-san, hope you enjoy ball pen abuse.Yes Photoshop was used too before you start ranting
Ill be posting his blog later. Going to be trying out this art style hopefully I don't fail at it ( ´^`)
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Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Kelugarn on March 29, 2013, 01:16:04 am
More drawings. We need more.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Penguin on March 29, 2013, 03:35:54 am
I'm going for the flag.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: EyeBeat on March 29, 2013, 03:56:47 am
Muki if I buy you a game on steam will you make a drawing for me to replace my avatar?
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: cap on March 30, 2013, 01:11:29 pm
Muki, you are a shitty admin just like the rest of them.

You claim I'm a "known crpg troll/griefer", yet the only server I play on is NA7 and I'm always at near the top of the leaderboard.  Ask anyone who consistently plays DTV and ask them if me being there ruins the experience - I imagine you'll have very few who agree with you.

All my bans have been for stupid things like single revenge tks, policing the server with tks when actual griefers are on (and no admin, disabled polls).  My latest ban is for A) not contributing, which is pure bullshit if you look at my score and watched me play at the time B) Teamkilling an actual troll who constantly hit the virgin and teamates when there was no admin present and polls were disabled.  I was one of many people who tk'd the troll...where is everyone else's ban?

In short, you and the admin community in this game sucks.  You ban people like me, yet the actual trolls skate by.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Krynist on March 30, 2013, 01:56:54 pm
Muki, let's run this one again.

Nemesis posts that Cap was a "bad person". Not a bannable offense. You check logs, he kills someone who has killed V (Jerry).  It's all in the chat, it's obvious we were forming a ring around V to stop this V killer.  Jerry, the kid who died (For Killing V), does not post on the forums asking for Cap to be banned.  He'd get himself banned if he did, for killing V.

4 people do post, stating Cap only killed him because he was killing the V.  The kid Cap Tk'd makes no appearance or demands.  ProjectNemesis does post, demanding Cap's ban, but as you yourself state, you have no idea what he's talking about.

The only people who post back up Cap's story.  You ban him based on log showing him killing someone who was actually greifing.  You state you cannot ban Jerry, for lack of evidence.  Yet you can ban Cap, with no evidence except his past history?

Am I to understand if someone is killing the virgin, with VK disabled, and no admin coming into the server, we are supposed to let them ruin our play experience because we'll be banned based on just killing them alone, and a "lack of evidence" when 4 people who were actually there post in our defense?

This game is far too Ban happy.  Honestly.  There is a huge difference between trolling/griefing, and what people are banned for on a regular basis.

I still can't believe you banned him for him TKing Jerry, a known virgin killer.  The whole server knew it and observed him for like, 7 straight rounds, doing nothing but using his higher AGI to run away, circle back, and hit V, repeatedly, with us having to defend V from him AND the NPCs.  Can your Log system show you the scores people had at the time of a kill?  I am pretty sure they can't.  How are you going to even say our "club" was not defending V or killing any of the Bots we were "helping to spawn" when you don't actually know?
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: MrShine on March 30, 2013, 01:58:47 pm
Muki, you are a shitty admin just like the rest of them.

You claim I'm a "known crpg troll/griefer", yet the only server I play on is NA7 and I'm always at near the top of the leaderboard.  Ask anyone who consistently plays DTV and ask them if me being there ruins the experience - I imagine you'll have very few who agree with you.

All my bans have been for stupid things like single revenge tks, policing the server with tks when actual griefers are on (and no admin, disabled polls).  My latest ban is for A) not contributing, which is pure bullshit if you look at my score and watched me play at the time B) Teamkilling an actual troll who constantly hit the virgin and teamates when there was no admin present and polls were disabled.  I was one of many people who tk'd the troll...where is everyone else's ban?

In short, you and the admin community in this game sucks.  You ban people like me, yet the actual trolls skate by.


You've been banned 5 times since December by 4 different admins.  You've been banned 3 times this month alone.  That should tip you off that you may not in fact be following the rules. So instead of approaching the situation with a "woe is me I'm being oppressed" attitude maybe take a step back and re-evaluate.

Now in the future if someone is griefing or teamwounding, it's not on you to take matters into your own hands by TKing or whatever.  Instead check to see if an admin is on in the server, and if they aren't I suggest hopping over to NA 1 and asking in admin chat if an admin could join DTV to help.  Or if you use IRC I'd log in there and ask if an NA admin can help.

If they can't and no one else is around, then take screenshots of the offending person & what they are doing and submit a ban request on the forums. 


If you keep enacting vigilante justice with teamkills etc, you'll probably be taking another (longer) break from c-RPG than just 3 days.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: cap on March 31, 2013, 03:20:07 am
Have you experts managed to check out theprojectnemesis post history? Here is a guy whos been banned numerous times on multiple characters for stuff way worse than me, yet his history is not taken into account when you consider banning me due to a thread he started?

Pro moderation. PRO.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on March 31, 2013, 03:56:37 am
Have you experts managed to check out theprojectnemesis post history? Here is a guy whos been banned numerous times on multiple characters for stuff way worse than me, yet his history is not taken into account when you consider banning me due to a thread he started?

Pro moderation. PRO.

Yes he has been banned multiple times for the same reasons you have been banned for. I.e Teamkilling griefing chat abuse.

His History was taken accounted for. He has recently came out of his eassy ban, and he hasn't caused any problems noir has went back into his major teamwounding/teamkilling ways; You may say I'm being lenient with him, but an unban from a eassy ban is to give the player a second chance to show the community they changed.

What doesn't help in your history you were banned three times within the same month ( the month I'm talking about is March) which shows to us you refuse to learn from your mistakes.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Krynist on March 31, 2013, 05:25:53 am
noir has went back into his major teamwounding/teamkilling ways;
So his minor teamwounding/teamkilling ways, like running up to me and TKing me intentionally, get him a 14h ban with his past history, but Cap's 3 day ban for Defending the V in DTV mode is ok? Yes I realize he should not have Tk'd him, he should have allowed Jerry to kill the V repeatedly until an admin arrived, I understand that.  The math here doesn't compute.
You may say I'm being lenient with him, but an unban from a eassy ban is to give the player a second chance to show the community they changed.
Ok, so he's deserving of a chance to show he's changed (which he hasn't, considering his killing of me for no reason) I understand the chance being offered.  Where's Cap's chance?  You banned him in the past due to Tking after someone would wound him, or report him for a non dmg hit.  He stopped doing that, IE learned his lesson.  Now he defends the virgin, you act like he's a griefing troll. Why all the hate
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: cap on April 01, 2013, 03:34:36 am
I like how you equate me to a guy who was perma banned with a huge log of ill deeds.

My history consists of killing people who tw, tk, or m me when they received no damage....

You mods are horrible.  14h ban for that guy. 3 day ban for me.

Yes he has been banned multiple times for the same reasons you have been banned for. I.e Teamkilling griefing chat abuse.

His History was taken accounted for. He has recently came out of his eassy ban, and he hasn't caused any problems noir has went back into his major teamwounding/teamkilling ways; You may say I'm being lenient with him, but an unban from a eassy ban is to give the player a second chance to show the community they changed.

What doesn't help in your history you were banned three times within the same month ( the month I'm talking about is March) which shows to us you refuse to learn from your mistakes.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Nightingale on April 01, 2013, 04:08:21 am
I like how you equate me to a guy who was perma banned with a huge log of ill deeds.

My history consists of killing people who tw, tk, or m me when they received no damage....

You mods are horrible.  14h ban for that guy. 3 day ban for me.

Straight from the rules :

No intentional teamwounding/teamkilling during a round (teamkilling friends after a round ends is allowed, teamkilling random people is not)

No malicious griefing of teammates (kickspamming, blocking, etc.)This is a big one for you. Please look up anything you need to; to understand this rule.

No random kick/ban polls. Always specify reason before starting a poll

No leeching- NOT OK: Running around without no weapon. Not contributing is leeching, naked runners don't contribute. This point does not apply to Rageball, as long as you are actually playing the game.

There are multiple reasons why you are banned, Dueling teammates on DTV( LEECHING), Poll abuse( Kicking people for hitting M on you) No Malicious griefing of teammates (kicking people, Swinging in spawn- people get annoyed by that crap.) No intentional teamkilling/teamwounding during a round (Hitting people for hitting M on you, Killing people for Hitting M on you.)

If anything I think the ban time should be extended.

Armagedon got banned for team-killing.

Cap You got banned for the above.

Krynist got banned for dueling on DTV

Bicep got banned for Chat abuse (making another player say racist remarks.)

Last time I'll explain this to you.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Jarold on April 01, 2013, 05:22:45 am
I like how you equate me to a guy who was perma banned with a huge log of ill deeds.

My history consists of killing people who tw, tk, or m me when they received no damage....

You mods are horrible.  14h ban for that guy. 3 day ban for me.

Actually I do believe you compared yourself to him first.  :rolleyes:

LOL that is even worse then just running up to them and tk'ing em.

QQ.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: cap on April 01, 2013, 04:23:27 pm
Ah, let us take another recent example.  A ban of ReesesPieces.

Mr. Shine:
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Player    ReesesPieces
Banned by    Muki
Ban Date    31.03.2013 12:33:48
Scheduled Unban    02.04.2013 00:32:00

Muki is the admin who banned you so it's his call on whether to ban you early.  I checked history and noticed this is your 7th ban, so I don't know if that's going to factor in to his decisions or not.  I can shoot him a message about this though.

Muki:
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Hello hello, sorry for the late response; Wasn't very nice for you to tk half of the team before you left last night, You were banned for 24hrs.
Since you seem to be sorry or just very persistent, ill shorten your ban by two hours.

So here is another repeat offender.  However, in his case, he tks multiple people and gets a 24h ban.  I tk one guy attacking the virgin, and I get a 3 day ban.  Can you explain that discrepancy?  Nothing in the rules state what I was doing was leeching - I was killing bots as they approached the virgin.  If I was leeching, why did I have about 50 kills at the time?

Rules are great, how about you enforce them equally?  Arma gets 14h for an intentional tk (repeat offender).  Reeces gest 24h for multiple intentional tks (repeat offender).  Cap gets 3 days for intentional tk on a person every agrees was a griefer (multiple offender).
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Krynist on April 01, 2013, 05:39:06 pm
There are multiple reasons why you are banned, Dueling teammates on DTV( LEECHING), Poll abuse( Kicking people for hitting M on you) No Malicious griefing of teammates (kicking people, Swinging in spawn- people get annoyed by that crap.) No intentional teamkilling/teamwounding during a round (Hitting people for hitting M on you, Killing people for Hitting M on you.) 

Desire, no one is disputing that Cap was banned for team killing someone who was killing the V.  Yes, it is against the rules for him to defend the virgin from a teammate killing her, that is understood.  He should have allowed it to happen since no admin was present and no Vk was enabled, that is also understood.

The only thing he is bringing up, I'm pretty sure, is that he was banned for 3 days, due to his "ban history", because he killed a teammate killing the V.  Projectnemesis, someone with a FAR worse ban history, was banned for 14 hours, for running up and teamkilling me intentionally.  Not for "defending himself" as ANYONE on the server can, and have attested to.  For intentionally teamkilling someone, without reason, just after he was perma banned for the same thing.  There is little logic in this ruling.

Admins keep jumping in, disputing other points.  That is the point, friends.  Not that he shouldn't have been banned, as you guys love banning people all over the place for minor discretions, that's fine that you banned him.  And I'm not calling for a longer ban on Nemesis, as I don't agree with bans.  Just asking for a clarification (Which you were kind enough to give me in the past, about poll abuse) on this issue.

Also, you're asking for a longer ban, because he is discussing the ban?  Really?  You know what that reminds me of?

"Hey this guy's right, and speaking the truth.  He's a witch!  Burn him!"

Where does it list in the rules that if you discuss things on the forum in a civil manner, you are banned for questioning authority?  Seems dictator like to me, no?
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Krynist on April 01, 2013, 06:36:28 pm
Thanks for taking the time to write an honest essay Ryden, I'm lifting the ban.  Hopefully you can enjoy c-RPG while following the rules from here on out!  I think you understand but I'll say it anyways; unban essays are usually a "last resort" of sorts when it comes to bans, so any further bans will likely either be long or permanent, and from that point you'd need to start from scratch with a new account if you wanted to continue to play c-RPG.

Welcome back!

Just wanting to highlight this.  ProjectNemesis obviously doesn't understand this, nor does Muki apparently.  I think what Mister Shine meant to say, is that coming back from an unban essay, if you do exactly what you were banned for initially, you'll just get a warning at first, then a 14 hour ban when the admin catches himself, and that's all.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: MrShine on April 01, 2013, 07:40:25 pm
I don't appreciate my words being twisted and used against a fellow admin.  You would do well to note that I added qualifiers like "usually" and "likely", but by no means should it be considered written in stone.  Context & judgment calls will obviously come into effect.

Us admins try to be as internally consistent as possible, but there's always going to be slight differences between admins regarding length of bans, hot button issues, etc.  There aren't many hard rules about X ban = Y punishment, admin decisions concerning ban severity/length in my experience have been an organic thing that gets refined as time goes on.     

In the future if you have concerns about the length of a ban you're subject to, or you feel your ban was too long compared to other bans of similar caliber, there's an easy solution to avoid the problem: follow the server rules.  Do that and I guarantee you won't need to analyze & compare how different admins do their jobs.

Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Phantasmal on April 01, 2013, 08:06:33 pm
My biggest question is this. Krynist, you end the ban request with "fair enough" but then come here to Muki's thread to complain. Kind of contradictory, right?

Also, you're asking for a longer ban, because he is discussing the ban?  Really?  You know what that reminds me of?

"Hey this guy's right, and speaking the truth.  He's a witch!  Burn him!"

Where does it list in the rules that if you discuss things on the forum in a civil manner, you are banned for questioning authority?  Seems dictator like to me, no?

If you think Cap is discussing this in a civil manner, I would ask you to read his posts again. There is nothing "civil" about them, only a malicious tone. I think you also missed what Desire meant in the OP. The scenarios are:

1. According to Mr. Shine, Cap is a repeat offender. Desire might have banned him for a longer period of time given his history.

2. The more likely scenario is that Cap utterly fails to miss what he did wrong (which is shown by his repeated posts on this thread as well as his repeated bans over the last few months), illustrating that he has clearly not learned anything from this recent ban.

On a side note, ProjectNemesis was banned w/ an essay requirement for a malicious verbal assault on another player, not for TKing or TWing. They may have received a lighter ban because:

a) The circumstances are slightly ambiguous
b) They are not repeating what they were permabanned for (I am sure that, if he were to verbally assault you guys there would have been much stricter consequences).
c) He has been relatively good recently.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: cap on April 01, 2013, 08:30:58 pm
Phantasmal, thanks for your input.  My previous bans have been for TK'ing people who wounded me (primarily archers who try to thread the needle when im fighting something 1v1, or choose to shoot me in the back when i have a train of 10+ bots in front of me) or hit M at the beginning of the round when they take no damage.

I no longer TK people for these things.  I've been forced to become an M key hero.  In the crpg world, being a bad/careless player is OK and is promoted.  So I just need to live with shitty teammates who constantly team wound by "accident" - which is just another word for not caring if they hit teammates.

My latest ban is for:
A) leeching.  No bans on record for leeching, and its bullshit that this one will count as leeching
B) killing a player everyone on the server confirmed was griefing, by teamwounding and hitting the virgin.  Numerous other people tk'd this same person. Polls were disabled and we did not want this player ruining our gaming experience.

Muki has ignored input from 4 people who were on the server at the time.  I don't think a 3 day ban was warranted in this case.

Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on April 02, 2013, 01:19:23 am
With ReesesPieces Half the team was a 4 v 4 (This inclues him) and yes I was present on the server at the time. No this teamkill happen at the start of the match, NA_1 sometimes has very low population in the early mornings

 
I no longer TK people for these things.  I've been forced to become an M key hero.  In the crpg world, being a bad/careless player is OK and is promoted.  So I just need to live with shitty teammates who constantly team wound by "accident" - which is just another word for not caring if they hit teammates.

Problem is you never "M key" any team wounds in the logs

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Muki has ignored input from 4 people who were on the server at the time.  I don't think a 3 day ban was warranted in this case.

I took the input that was given to me by both parties than used/read what was provided to me by the logs to help get a better understanding of the situation.

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B) killing a player everyone on the server confirmed was griefing, by teamwounding and hitting the virgin.  Numerous other people tk'd this same person. Polls were disabled and we did not want this player ruining our gaming experience.

I will quote myself to answer
You should know well in the system you can take screenshots as evidence.

Take Screenshots to back up your story which is a reason we ask players to take a screenshot of their logs, or the event taking place. If screenshots arn't your thing use fraps or whatever video recording device to get said event.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Krynist on April 02, 2013, 07:47:45 pm
I don't appreciate my words being twisted and used against a fellow admin.  You would do well to note that I added qualifiers like "usually" and "likely", but by no means should it be considered written in stone.  Context & judgment calls will obviously come into effect.

You will note I said "I think what mister Shine meant to say" which is not "Mister shine said" or "Mister shine implied" so, there's your qualifying word friend.

I understand that admins all read the same rules, and I understand that admins interpret those rules in their own manner, and carry out bans based on those interpretations.  Some admins would have banned Nemesis for 14 days, not 14 hours, but that is what it is.

My biggest question is this. Krynist, you end the ban request with "fair enough" but then come here to Muki's thread to complain.

Not once have I ever complained about myself being banned, sir.  Also, with a locked thread, this would be the place to continue a discussion regarding an admin's decisions, no?  So I'd thank you to move on, thanks.

2. The more likely scenario is that Cap utterly fails to miss what he did wrong (which is shown by his repeated posts on this thread as well as his repeated bans over the last few months), illustrating that he has clearly not learned anything from this recent ban.

Let's look at that statement.  If he utterly failed to miss what he did wrong, he would continue doing what he did to get banned, right?  He was banned for TKing people who would hit M when they receive little to no dmg from him, and he would TK archers for taking stupid, high risk low reward shots and killing him, and he was banned for poll abuse when he tried to kick desire for banning me for poll abuse.

This time he was banned for killing a person who killed the virgin, when there was no VK enabled and no admin present. Should he have? Due to your rules no, he should have let the guy kill V repeatedly.  Lesson learned, but get your facts straight.  Tking someone who killed the V is a bit different from running over and attacking a random teammate and hitting them 13 times to kill them with them not attacking back or blocking ever.  Just saying.

On a side note, ProjectNemesis was banned w/ an essay requirement for a malicious verbal assault on another player, not for TKing or TWing. They may have received a lighter ban because:

a) The circumstances are slightly ambiguous
b) They are not repeating what they were permabanned for (I am sure that, if he were to verbally assault you guys there would have been much stricter consequences).
c) He has been relatively good recently.

A) You're right.  The SS of him TWing me 8 times (that I captured) and me not doing a thing back and him killing me, then admitting to TKing me in chat, that's pretty ambiguous.
B) Kinda the same point brought up with Cap.  If it's fair for Nemesis to not receive a long ban based on his ban history being for different things, why would it not be fair for Cap? Also, the verbal assault in the ban thread, yea that happened dude.  Totally not called for.
C) Has he now?  Has he really?  He charges me in DTV out of no where, takes forever to kill me (IE if it was a rage attack, after the 5th / 6th hit landed, most people back off, but he was intent on killing me) and to top it off, after killing me, he says How do I take a SS? I want to ban these two.  THEN he goes onto the forums and proceeds to attack Cap's character and sense of who he is, and slander his name, calling for a ban for ... what? Muki doesn't even know.  He had stated, I don't even know what he's talking about.

This is annoying and going on and on but getting no where.  Bottom line?  You admins are OK with interpreting the rule book however you see fit, and doing whatever you feel like with little to no recourse.  We the people would appreciate more of a sense of structure, a sense of fairness.  We understand ban's can't be concrete and set in stone, where X ban = Y punishment, obviously.  But the ban happy, kiss my ring style we have going on now seems strange to me.  I realize I'm just one person and by no means speak for anyone else, but I'm pretty sure people would agree that we could use less bans, more judgement calls, and more of a sense of fairness.  You say you are a part of the community too?  Act like it.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Phantasmal on April 02, 2013, 09:48:32 pm
Cap got banned for TWing and TKing in the last month. Please explain why TKing Jerry is not against the rules. If he TWs the Virgin, take screens or head to NA_1 to get an admin. Do not revenge TK someone. There were other ways available to handle the situation without breaking the rules.

A) Your SS only shows one incident from your perspective. This is one of the few photo evidences offered throughout the thread. Your other one is not viewable by the way because it is linked to a private account. All that is presented is hearsay from other players and information from the logs (TWs are not reported in logs unless reported by an individual, meaning you have to M them for it to be in the logs). In fact, ProjectNemesis did M you:

[19:17:06] msg,LeRoiHeenok reported Krynist for teamwounding. Penalty: [1/5]

[19:17:20] msg,LeRoiHeenok reported Cap for teamwounding. Penalty: [2/5]

The situation is ambiguous because no one offers up a lot of photo evidence and there is a lot of hearsay. It is slightly unclear to see who provoked who.

B) I wonder if you read the chat logs from ProjectNemesis' permaban. He may have been mean to you on the forums (who is not a dick on the internet?), but he was downright malicious in the logs concerning his permaban (enough to make players in the siege server uncomfortable).

C) Refer to A. It is not like he got off freely, he was still banned. You have to realize that no admin was present to witness the situation. Imagine if you were an admin in this situation, do you think you would be able to wade through all the "evidence" to make the right call (if one even exists)? Muki did what they thought was the right choice, and handled every infraction they found in the logs as well as in your SS.

Personally I believe you are making a big deal over one incident. Since I have been here I have only seen one or two admin bans that I felt were unjustified.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: cap on April 02, 2013, 09:56:41 pm
Cap got banned for TWing and TKing in the last month. Please explain why TKing Jerry is not against the rules. If he TWs the Virgin, take screens or head to NA_1 to get an admin. Do not revenge TK someone. There were other ways available to handle the situation without breaking the rules.

A) Your SS only shows one incident from your perspective. This is one of the few photo evidences offered throughout the thread. Your other one is not viewable by the way because it is linked to a private account. All that is presented is hearsay from other players and information from the logs (TWs are not reported in logs unless reported by an individual, meaning you have to M them for it to be in the logs). In fact, ProjectNemesis did M you:

[19:17:06] msg,LeRoiHeenok reported Krynist for teamwounding. Penalty: [1/5]

[19:17:20] msg,LeRoiHeenok reported Cap for teamwounding. Penalty: [2/5]

The situation is ambiguous because no one offers up a lot of photo evidence and there is a lot of hearsay. It is slightly unclear to see who provoked who.

B) I wonder if you read the chat logs from ProjectNemesis' permaban. He may have been mean to you on the forums (who is not a dick on the internet?), but he was downright malicious in the logs concerning his permaban (enough to make players in the siege server uncomfortable).

C) Refer to A. It is not like he got off freely, he was still banned. You have to realize that no admin was present to witness the situation. Imagine if you were an admin in this situation, do you think you would be able to wade through all the "evidence" to make the right call (if one even exists)? Muki did what they thought was the right choice, and handled every infraction they found in the logs as well as in your SS.

Personally I believe you are making a big deal over one incident. Since I have been here I have only seen one or two admin bans that I felt were unjustified.

Why are you "contributing"?  You weren't there, and you are not the admin in charge of the ban.  Krynist kicked rageboy, who reported him.  A minute or so later, rageboy repeatedly hits and then kills krynist as you can clearly see in the screenshot.  Rageboy was wearing a cloth robe.  1 or 2 hits from krynist would kill him (which didn't happen because krynist did not attack back).

For someone who M'd krynist when he got kicked, its a little odd that he didn't M him when he was being "attacked" by krynist.  Don't you think?  This explanation perfectly matches the logs and screenshots that were submitted.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: MrShine on April 02, 2013, 10:23:56 pm
You will note I said "I think what mister Shine meant to say" which is not "Mister shine said" or "Mister shine implied" so, there's your qualifying word friend.

Well if it wasn't understood before I want to make sure it's understood now: context & judgment calls will come into play.

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This is annoying and going on and on but getting no where.  Bottom line?  You admins are OK with interpreting the rule book however you see fit, and doing whatever you feel like with little to no recourse.  We the people would appreciate more of a sense of structure, a sense of fairness.  We understand ban's can't be concrete and set in stone, where X ban = Y punishment, obviously.  But the ban happy, kiss my ring style we have going on now seems strange to me.  I realize I'm just one person and by no means speak for anyone else, but I'm pretty sure people would agree that we could use less bans, more judgement calls, and more of a sense of fairness.  You say you are a part of the community too?  Act like it.

You say Muki "interprets the rule book/[does] whatever [he] feels like with no recourse".  What rules did Muki break?  None, he's only guilty of banning you for a length of time you disapprove of.

You say you don't like the 'ban-happy' attitude, calling for less bans & more judgment call, but at the same time you're clearly unhappy that Projectnemesis wasn't banned for longer than 14 hours.

Let's cut the bullshit; you're here because you broke the rules and aren't happy with how long a time-out you received.  You're correct that you don't speak for the community, mostly because the majority of the community follows the rules & aren't put in this situation.  If someone is disrupting the server in the future, you should try to find an admin or (next best) take screenshots & report on the forums.

There really isn't much left to say.

Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: cap on April 02, 2013, 10:41:44 pm
Shine, Krynist isn't complaining about his ban (as hes stated numerous times).  Rather, hes trying to understand why I was banned for nearly 4 days, whereas projectnemesis received a 14h ban.

The "explanation" is that I have a history, yet I've never been permabanned like nemesis.  The ban lengths are capricious at best.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: MrShine on April 02, 2013, 11:19:02 pm
I'm not Muki so I don't know the exact reasons.  I did take a look at the logs, and saw that you systematically tk'd/ encouraged others to tk Jerry for many rounds.  Continuous prevention of someone from participating is IMO more severe than a single TK, which could account for the difference between the bans. 

Side note: I do see what Jerry was doing, and understand your desire to stop him, but as mentioned before two wrongs don't make a right, and the better course of action from you would have been to try to find an admin or submit a ban request. 
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: theprojectnemesis on April 13, 2013, 12:15:03 am
This stuff is still going on?
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Krynist on April 13, 2013, 03:23:24 am
This stuff is still going on?

Nah, been over for like, seven days
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on April 19, 2013, 10:34:07 pm
New Drawing! Abit more of a Western theme I guess, well it's not Japanese weeaboo theme.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Spanish on April 19, 2013, 10:45:31 pm
Dude that ones awesome! personal favorite
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Aaron on April 21, 2013, 12:58:43 pm
you are a worthless piece of shit, who is Bias and allows ppl to leech, teamkill, block, and oh yes harrass other players for no reason, while u just ride around on your horse, plz do your self a favor and ACTUALLY be an admin kid.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on April 21, 2013, 01:05:08 pm
you are a worthless piece of shit, who is Bias and allows ppl to leech, teamkill, block, and oh yes harrass other players for no reason, while u just ride around on your horse, plz do your self a favor and ACTUALLY be an admin kid.

Sounds good! I'll Take that as Positive feedback
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Aaron on April 21, 2013, 01:13:03 pm
w/e badmin, of all the admins your the most clueless
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on April 21, 2013, 01:22:20 pm
w/e badmin, of all the admins your the most clueless

Probably; So I'm sorry for being human, but here a message from the overlords(cmp)
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Admins are human too, so mistakes can happen. We are terribly sorry for not being perfect and are working on replacing all players and admins with computers for optimal performance.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Aaron on April 21, 2013, 02:13:54 pm
then u truely are bad, ,makes sense u cant fucking see, allowing ppl to purposly team hit me and kill me is against admin code, and is showing favoritism asshole, please refrain from abusing admin powers.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on April 21, 2013, 02:18:18 pm
then u truely are bad, ,makes sense u cant fucking see, allowing ppl to purposly team hit me and kill me is against admin code, and is showing favoritism asshole, please refrain from abusing admin powers.

Congrats since you were not tked noir did you even bother reporting a Teamwound  in I chat like I requested from before here a screenshot of me asking for I chat and your request doing it in dead chat as soon I died
(click to show/hide)

Edit:

Do hope the "recording" of the event you have on me can help lighten your cause of not using Ctrl-M or I chat
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Bobthehero on April 26, 2013, 09:40:49 pm
God fucking damnit people are retarded.

Go Muki
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: mcdeath on April 30, 2013, 02:57:41 am
I seen him leak the admin logs of desire. Remove his admin and perma ban this man at once.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on June 09, 2013, 01:33:14 am
New artwork!

Got a request from (Gran)Pappy so here the result.
Had helped from my friend Moon (Shingetsu)
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Rumblood on June 09, 2013, 01:34:43 am
Thanks Muki! Its awesome!
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: EyeBeat on June 21, 2013, 07:15:48 am
New artwork!

Got a request from (Gran)Pappy so here the result.
Had helped from my friend Moon (Shingetsu)


Looks great.

What about me??? :(

I need an update because I don't look like my avatar anymore....
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on June 21, 2013, 10:46:22 pm
New artwork!

Got a request from (Gran)Pappy so here the result.
Had helped from my friend Moon (Shingetsu)
(click to show/hide)

Damn good artwork as usual, Muki. I don't think I'll ever stop dick-riding your artistic ability.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Miley on July 02, 2013, 09:24:13 pm
This idiot told me to go fight the enemy or I will be counted as leeching. (I was on Courser with my bow and arrows.) I said, "K idiot." I got off my horse and dropped my bow and started killing my horse so that 04, the last player on the other team couldn't use it (Horse archer), and I was banned for an hour.

Wow Muki you really are a bad admin aren't you. I saw someone the other day get banned by you FOR FIVE MINUTES FOR TEAM KILLING AT THE BEGINNING OF ROUND. This was BLATANT admin abuse by you.

EDIT: You cannot ban me for leeching because I clearly wasn't. You cannot ban me for "not fighting the enemy" because I was killing my horse so 04 could not use it. Then I was going to go melee 04, but you did not wait to see what was going to happen. This was a wrong call Muki, and you've done it before where you admitted you were wrong to me (look at beginning of thread). And there was another second time where you told me to do something in game, and then I proved you wrong and you left me alone. This would be the third offense, Muki, where you were wrong with me.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: srellA on July 02, 2013, 09:38:56 pm
When admins know theyre in the wrong they choose to ignore it instead of confronting the problem thats why this idiot just +1ed you and didn't even give a response or aynthing  :arrow:
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Lemon on July 02, 2013, 09:46:57 pm
I am witness, Miley is completely right. Admin abuse imo
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on July 02, 2013, 09:56:36 pm
This idiot told me to go fight the enemy or I will be counted as leeching. (I was on Courser with my bow and arrows.) I said, "K idiot." I got off my horse and dropped my bow and started killing my horse so that 04, the last player on the other team couldn't use it (Horse archer), and I was banned for an hour.

Wow Muki you really are a bad admin aren't you. I saw someone the other day get banned by you FOR FIVE MINUTES FOR TEAM KILLING AT THE BEGINNING OF ROUND. This was BLATANT admin abuse by you.

Yes you ran off with your horse to the other side of the map to regroup with an afk shielder who had just return than got warned to re-engage the last member of the enemy team, you decided to respond to the warning with "K-idiot" dropping your bow which still had ammo, and to preceded to kill your horse. The logic with killing you're horse makes sense, what makes no sense is your action before the warning, why would you run to the other side of the map and not help your team dehorse 04 (aka Allers).

The 5min ban was due to what happen last map with the last two players decided to "hug" it out and caused a draw so both of them received a timeout

Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Miley on July 02, 2013, 09:59:50 pm
Yes you ran off with your horse to the other side of the map to regroup with an afk shielder who had just return than got warned to re-engage the last member of the enemy team, you decided to respond to the warning with "K-idiot" dropping your bow which still had ammo, and to preceded to kill your horse. The logic with killing you're horse makes sense, what makes no sense is your action before the warning, why would you run to the other side of the map and not help your team dehorse 04.

The 5min ban was due to what happen last map with the last two players decided to "hug" it out and caused a draw so both of them received a timeout

Read my whole comment I edited it. I was finding a safe place to kill the horse so I wouldn't get shot, and I was regrouping with the shielder. Nothing against the rules there. I chose that I was going to melee instead of shoot.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on July 02, 2013, 10:11:14 pm
Miley I cannot know when your going to re-edit your post(s).

Not contributing is leeching. You are known to refuse to kill the last member of the enemy team to even to go as far to allow yourself to be killed by them. Aristeia was another admin on the server during your case  he/she(don't know his/her gender) agreed with the ban, I even went as far to asking other admins on actions to take before the warning incase anything happened outside of my experience.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Miley on July 02, 2013, 10:15:20 pm
Miley I cannot know when your going to re-edit your post(s).

Not contributing is leeching. You are known to refuse to kill the last member of the enemy team to even to go as far to allow yourself to be killed by them. Aristeia was another admin on the server during your case  he/she(don't know his/her gender) agreed with the ban, I even went as far to asking other admins on actions to take before the warning incase anything happened outside of my experience.

You didn't answer my edit. And wow, in that amount of time you were probably able to ask half an admin for advice. Aristeia hasn't been on in months, I don't expect Aristeia to know what she's talking about. But this honestly 100% WAS ADMIN ABUSE. For the third time by you against me Muki. I don't even care about the 1 hour ban. I care that there are admins like you who are wrong in their judgement and knowledge of the rules. You're wrong, and this is the third time.

1.
I know what I did was wrong, and I'm always looking to improve.
And with the information Miley gave I know how to handle the situation without bring more harm to the community

2. Prob have screenshot but I don't want to look for it cause I have over 8k.

3. Here.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Panoply on July 02, 2013, 10:19:18 pm
I had just joined the server, but Miley clearly had a truce with 04 and left his poor unhorsed comrades to chase 04. The stage was set for manly single combat between two horse archers but Miley, a known communist sympathizer, instead opted to cavort around and admire the scenery. When Muki, the patron saint of justice and a very passable post-op transexual, instructed her to cease her pacifistic tomfoolery, Miley defiantly threw down her bow and clubbed her faithful God-fearing American pony. It seemed to my humble eyeballs that Miley planned to ruthfully accost the enhorsed 04 with a club, substituting genuine wholesome murderous intent with feigned patriotism and halfhearted pussyfooting, like a man who joins the National Guard to dodge the draft. Luckily, our very vigiliant vaginoplastied Muki saw through this devious neocommunist ruse and sentenced Miley to an entire hour of c-RPG rehab, after which Miley will have no doubt learned her lesson. However, were it I who had taken administrative initiative, I would have  sentenced Miley to only 59 minutes and then elected her as President of these United States of America.

For that extra minute, Muki, I name thee badmin.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Miley on July 02, 2013, 10:24:32 pm
I don't even know why you're admin you've been AFK for like a year and months. Just because I didn't play to the best that you guys expect which is shooting, doesn't give you the right to ban me for choosing to melee instead.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on July 02, 2013, 10:25:57 pm
I don't even know why you're admin you've been AFK for like a year and months. Just because I didn't play to the best that you guys expect which is shooting, doesn't give you the right to ban me for choosing to melee instead.


If you wish to push this to another level we can attempt to bring in the current Head NA Admin
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Miley on July 02, 2013, 10:26:50 pm

If you wish to push this to another level we can attempt to bring in the current Head NA Admin

Why don't you just admit you were wrong for the third time? Ban's over anyways. The head admin wouldn't have been there anyways, and they'll take your word over mine. It'd be biased.

You still neglected to pinpoint the precise action that made you seem like you needed to ban.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Lemon on July 02, 2013, 10:50:57 pm
Why don't you just admit you were wrong for the third time? Ban's over anyways. The head admin wouldn't have been there anyways, and they'll take your word over mine. It'd be biased.

You still neglected to pinpoint the precise action that made you seem like you needed to ban.
If I knew how to +1 you'd be getting tons of renown for these righteous posts.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Phantasmal on July 02, 2013, 10:53:03 pm
Muki how much do you charge for forum profile pictures in cRPG gold?
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Miley on July 02, 2013, 10:53:41 pm
If I knew how to +1 you'd be getting tons of renown for these righteous posts.

AT THE TOP RIGHT
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Lemon on July 02, 2013, 11:00:27 pm
I see it but cant add to it? maybe to low forum level because im a noob
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on July 03, 2013, 07:37:26 am
Miley, I wasn't there during this incident but I've witnessed many players on both teams getting frustrated at you for "throwing the round" by doing things like this. Whether you are purposely trolling or that's just your playstyle, it is close enough to leeching and delaying that it bothers a large portion of the playerbase. Please consider this.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Miley on July 03, 2013, 08:12:07 pm
Miley, I wasn't there during this incident but I've witnessed many players on both teams getting frustrated at you for "throwing the round" by doing things like this. Whether you are purposely trolling or that's just your playstyle, it is close enough to leeching and delaying that it bothers a large portion of the playerbase. Please consider this.

I never "throw the round" in a way that's against the rules. It's always punching or some other form that IS fighting. I don't give .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 of a **** how many players I bother. Please consider this. I did not break the rules. I wasn't the last player either, since you seem to think you know what happened.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on July 05, 2013, 09:41:08 am
Sorry if it came off sounding that way. I was just trying to shed light on muki's actions. If you are almost breaking the rules but not quite and an admin asks you to cut it out, don't assume that they have a grudge against you. I know that you are a skilled CRPG player capable of clutching rounds near the end. I also know that muki is a very neutral admin who doesn't play favorites or throw their power around for no reason. I will never know what exactly happened, even with server logs.

Hope you are treated fairly in the future.  :(
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Lemon on July 06, 2013, 12:33:53 am
It was like 6v1, and she went and killed a horse so 04 couldn't get it if he got dehorsed. Muki wanted her to go and kill 04, but because Miley didn't live up to Muki's expectations Muki banned her for 1hour.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: EyeBeat on July 06, 2013, 12:45:47 am
Miley, I wasn't there during this incident but I've witnessed many players on both teams getting frustrated at you for "throwing the round" by doing things like this. Whether you are purposely trolling or that's just your playstyle, it is close enough to leeching and delaying that it bothers a large portion of the playerbase. Please consider this.

Pretty much but then again Miley/Allers always are looking for different ways to stir the pot and everyone knows it.  Whether it is broruling or prolonging rounds for no reason. 
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Miley on July 10, 2013, 07:21:40 am
Muki is one of the worst admins for everyone reading this to know. This wannabe-Japanese has admin abused several times and has apologized for it to me twice.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Gmnotutoo on July 11, 2013, 11:28:02 pm
Muki is one of the worst admins for everyone reading this to know. This wannabe-JapanesePERSON has admin abused several times and has apologized for it to me twice.

Don't belittle people for embracing cultures outside their own lineage.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on July 12, 2013, 01:01:36 am
This wannabe-Japanese has admin abused several times and has apologized for it to me twice.

I'm not too sure what you have against asian cultures (specificity the japanese culture), and why you keep assuming am not from asia.

Yes I have "abused" my admin by spamming pink text, but as most of the Na admins know you and allers are always looking for ways to walk on the border of the rules.

I have apologized for the other incidents since they were choices made within my early days of my adminship were I had little to no experience on ruling out the rule sets back then, but I will not apologize for this third incident due to you're well known history of border line delaying/brocoding/leeching. Not to mention the hilarious chat abuse you and allers tried to do, to demoralize me in the server.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Miley on July 13, 2013, 08:25:41 pm
You need to learn English (LOL specificity). Did I say I had anything against Asian cultures? No. Did I say you weren't Asian...? I don't even know where you're pulling this stuff out of (tu culo por supuesto, como toda la mierda que dices). I said you WISH YOU WERE JAPANESE. And no, the second time was not during your "early days of adminship." And this third time, WHILE YOU SAY IT'S BORDERLINE, BORDERLINE STILL DOES NOT MEAN I WAS IN THE WRONG--YOU WERE. I can be as borderline as I want, just as long as I don't cross that border. You're so dumb.

What does demoralizing you on the server have to do with anything? You probably didn't understand half of it. And it wasn't breaking the rules. Just because you're an admin doesn't mean I can't insult you just like any other player.

Don't belittle people for embracing cultures outside their own lineage.

Cause you're in the same boat as Muki >___________________<
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: EyeBeat on July 16, 2013, 02:04:03 pm
What does demoralizing you on the server have to do with anything?
I think he might be talking about your personal insults.  You can demoralize people by talking about the way they play or their actual play style.  I do that all the time in a non serious manner.  But you and Allers have a way of making it as personal as you can.  Basically just being a total ass.

You probably didn't understand half of it.
Here is a GREAT example of you being a total ass.

And it wasn't breaking the rules. Just because you're an admin doesn't mean I can't insult you just like any other player.
Constant personal attacks are frowned upon against any player.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: OssumPawesome on August 15, 2013, 02:13:25 pm
Muki best Muki NA
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Voso on August 20, 2013, 12:20:01 am
In the future instead of banning a bunch of people for having similar names, you can check the logs and do a ctrl+f search for the words you saw lilly say in the ban request's screenshots and find the key there.

Just saying, I would be mighty pissed if I was banned simply because my name was similar to someone else who did something banworthy.


I know from when I was an admin that its not even hard to check, like at all.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on August 20, 2013, 12:42:00 am
In the future instead of banning a bunch of people for having similar names, you can check the logs and do a ctrl+f search for the words you saw lilly say in the ban request's screenshots and find the key there.

Just saying, I would be mighty pissed if I was banned simply because my name was similar to someone else who did something banworthy.


I know from when I was an admin that its not even hard to check, like at all.
The logs were not uploaded when I made the ban they just got uploaded  30 mins ago

The problem with the lilly case is there is about 7 different keys/accounts with a alt named lilly_lefluer some are still in existent other are deleted. Not to mention if the lilly's were all on at the same time and this had to be handled in game it causes more problems

So I follow my colleague advice about how to handle this case if it did happen to appear
Also, in my experience, if they are doing it to get around bans (ie one person misbehaves and you dont know which one did it) ban them all :D
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Voso on August 20, 2013, 03:44:42 am
The logs were not uploaded when I made the ban they just got uploaded  30 mins ago

The problem with the lilly case is there is about 7 different keys/accounts with a alt named lilly_lefluer some are still in existent other are deleted. Not to mention if the lilly's were all on at the same time and this had to be handled in game it causes more problems

So I follow my colleague advice about how to handle this case if it did happen to appear


I agree with you when you say if they were all on at the same time and it had to be handled in game that it would be an issue, but from what I know they weren't all online and this wasn't handled in game.

Perhaps in a case like this you should simply wait for the logs, it shouldn't matter if their ban has to wait a few days.. they are still getting banned. I think everyone would rather a bit later of a ban then to ban 7 players who weren't all even online. Unless they are actually doing it to avoid a ban, as Ganner said, like all being on at the same time. I don't find his advice relevant as one of the lilly's you banned didn't even have the _ shown in the screenshots, you got a bit overzealous.

Don't get me wrong, I think you are a great admin Muki, this is more constructive criticism than anything else. You should be a bit more considerate to the players who got banned that weren't even online or involved.

I just think next time you should wait for the logs, but this is of course simply my opinion.

Do as you like, Muki. :)


Also consider the possibilities a precedent like this could entail. If I joined the server with the name CyranuIe and started tking people, would you ban both me and Cyranule simply because our names are similar? Would you tell him he had to change his name to avoid getting banned when CyranuIe breaks the rules like you did to one of the Lillys?

Its a dangerous road, alls im sayin.
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Muki on August 20, 2013, 04:06:29 am
Well if Cyranule didn't approve of you impersonating him you would be the one requested to change your name
(probably would receive a ban too for griefing him if he that upset about it or the actions you did while impersonating him)

I handled that case here
http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-%28official%29/ban-lilly_lefluer/msg818484/#msg818484

And here a word from Kalam when I asked around the Admin forums
I believe as long as the first person with the name is okay with it, it's alright.

The player in question should know the risk what his doppelganger could/would do with his name.

Edit:
Notice I didn't answer your last question I would recommend him to tell his "friend" to change name since we do know that he had that character name before his doppel did. If force is needed it there  always a option to post on the forums about the problem 

Problem in the lilly case is I noir do any of the other admin I believe; know who had the name lilly_lefluer first, they could always try adding numbers(aka apply a namechange to get those numbers) to their name to distinguish themselves. i.e Chinaserf (x,y,z...etc)

With the limitation of the game chat not being able to tell the difference between I and l  if the case of CyranuIe and Cyranule  both being in the server and an admin being present in the tking rampage would it be better to let the rampage continue or ban both so the other players can enjoy themselves.

Through you are quite right about waiting for the logs, but still I most likely follow my senior colleagues advice on how to handle strange/unique "events".
Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Cyranule on August 20, 2013, 10:08:56 pm
Ban both and later check logs to see who actually did it. 

For the record there is someone running around as CyranuIe_BRD. 
He doesn't seem to teamkill much but he's awfully bad whoever it is.   

Title: Re: [NA] Muki
Post by: Sparvico on August 23, 2013, 03:38:22 am
A little trigger happy, but overall doing a fine job.