First, you give us the option to somewhat deal with admins we find abusive.
So we did that. Wooki got his powers removed without any huge hassle and drama around. For nuffen all we got was kittens and shit. The vote passed, one hour later you close the admin abuse section on thread. Well, i could somewhat cope with that.
But, opening new admin applications just to have Nuffen post his appl. as first one the SECOND day after the community wanted him to be just regular player, that is laughing to the community's face in my eyes.
Man, come on, man up, stand behind your words and show us that there is some sort of democracy.
Well... To me it looks like democracy failed with the nuffen case. There was no actual evidence of abuse - just whine from people who broke the rules (and their friends) and wouldn't accept their punishment. So I find chadz's action understandable.
And if nuffen posts to admin application thread, so what? I think you're taking this too personally.
The system has it flaws, admin can ban you with just saying: i saw him do that. But when you want to do it vice versa, you need to prove something was done wrong. And you seriously believe that all those 61percents are just people responding to the most recent incident? Get real. I do not say all those people who whine about nuffen are right, cause for sure, they are not, but when your banfinger is way too itchy and some good people get hit and all you see is: collateral dmg, you have to count with that, that just pisses me off.
Why to offer us this option, if when it actually is used the way it should be, you get pissed and remove it?
Vibe: the point is, this is just mockery to the community...both from his side and the dev team for allowing this at the first place
The point is butthurt banned people and their clans are waging a fucking crusade against an admin, who actually did his job.
i do not believe 61percents of the voters are just butthurt people, trolls, idiots and their friends, if you do so, your choice
-1 for being a bitch and going all personal on nuffen-1 for reading a post about fail democracy and understanding only personal drama out of it.
-1 for reading a post about fail democracy and understanding only personal drama out of it.
If an admin loses his/her powers due to abooze and apply for being an admin again in the same day i smell bigger abooze in this shit.
-1 for reading a post about fail democracy and understanding only personal drama out of it.
If an admin loses his/her powers due to abooze and apply for being an admin again in the same day i smell bigger abooze in this shit.
some just read what they want to read man, no help there
rejoice, 61percents of the voting community are children, retards, idiots, butthurts and their families/clans
So, how were you affected by nuffen? Did he ban you?
He lost his power due to childish community who can't deal with being banned.
So then is the vast majority of the EU community childish then? I mean, I know very little about your admins or the issues people have with them, but it's not like he was voted out by a paper thin margin. It seemed like a pretty convincing majority voted to have his admin removed.
No. I was not. I was not affected by him in any way. That is why i do not understand why you think i keep some personal grudge against him.
Did you even read your posts? You blatantly accuse him of abuse when another clan member of yours gets hit, then you rub it in his face once he loses the admin and now you make a new thread because he applied to admin again. How is that not hate?
i personally have nothing against Nuffen, he just happened to be the one everything was centered around last few days, if this same was done to and by another admin, i would post just the same stuff
Yeah, you are fallen, speaks for all. Your guys banned another guy from my clan yesterday for accidental TK, and the TK made by fallen member right after just went by unnoticed. How cool is that i ask? Hm?
Anyways, do YOU read what i type?
As i said, if the same shit was happening around Wooki nomination and removal, i would do just the same. But, it did not happened. It happened for Nuffen, bad for him, maybe, but still, if it was anyone else, i would state the same. Why to offer us some defense when we cannot even use it? And when we DARE to use it successfully, everyone is troll all of a sudden, community is full of kids, and no-one voted right, yeah. But hey, i guess Wooki was not that popular in dev team.
That's because nuffen bans people for doing shit they aren't supposed to do. Yes he is harsh, but gets the job done. He was voted out by people he banned (I guess there's quite a few) and their clanmates + a bunch of other chaps who believe all the whine posts about nuffen abuse.
Did you even read your posts? You blatantly accuse him of abuse when another clan member of yours gets hit, then you rub it in his face once he loses the admin and now you make a new thread because he applied to admin again. How is that not hate?
Providing proof
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,13770.msg194012.html#msg194012 (this one is gold)
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,13648.msg191828.html#msg191828
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,13648.msg193067.html#msg193067
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,13770.msg193448.html#msg193448
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,13770.msg193835.html#msg193835
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,13770.msg197058.html#msg197058 (and finally you rubbing it in his face)
Cut the bullshit, wanker.
First: keep your insults for your mom.
Second: my friend got banned for 10 days for nothing, you think i would let that go? I see a lot of people feinting while running, should they all be banned for that? I do not think so. But nice to see that i have a fanboy who keeps record of all and everything i write here :) How is a friendly welcome a rubbing in face?
Hi,
Before bringing democracy to the discussion, I'd like to mention the importance of veto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veto).
In my personal opinion, chadz is already nice enough to give us options to go up against administration levels instead of being an absolute hierarchy.
Besides, this community is hardly anywhere close to true democracy, the admins weren't even chosen by the people themselves, not to mention chadz and the devs, and can we ever go through the process of impeachment against chadz and the dev team? Well, I'd like to see us try one day.
Regards,
Gear
P.S.: Please pay no attention to my post, it is of no value to the thread since I'm an admin myself.
Please make sure you post in the correct board right away in the future.
Good, but don't go on saying you don't have a personal grudge against him then, eh? Friendly welcome my ass, man.Wtf is wrong with you ?
And finally the shittopic lands right where it is supposed to be. Have fun in spam guys.
i do not believe 61percents of the voters are just butthurt people, trolls, idiots and their friends
Hi,
Before bringing democracy to the discussion, I'd like to mention the importance of veto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veto).
In my personal opinion, chadz is already nice enough to give us options to go up against administration levels instead of being an absolute hierarchy.
Besides, this community is hardly anywhere close to true democracy, the admins weren't even chosen by the people themselves, not to mention chadz and the devs, and can we ever go through the process of impeachment against chadz and the dev team? Well, I'd like to see us try one day.
Regards,
Gear
P.S.: Please pay no attention to my post, it is of no value to the thread since I'm an admin myself.
That argument only goes so far in my mind. This is an awesome mod and I am very greatful for all that the dev team does and they should by no means be or feel obligated to pander to the every whim of this diverse,vast and sometime childish community. That said, regardless of his reasons im sure that chadz wants this mod to continue to do well for however long he is committed to it. A big part of a successful mod should be to have it's player base at least content if not happy with direction the mod is going in and those bringing it in that direction. That is why I love the fact that EU have the admin report system that they have. This nuffen admin abuse thing seems to have been going on for as long as I can remember (A few months at least) and the community seems to have voted rather definitively on the matter. That said, I agree with Vibe too a degree. Applying for admin after you get voted out shouldn't be grounds for immediate grilling on the Dev teams part, were he to get accepted then I would see ground for outrage or displeasure.
But, opening new admin applications just to have Nuffen post his appl. as first one the SECOND day after the community wanted him to be just regular player, that is laughing to the community's face in my eyes.
...
Man, come on, man up, stand behind your words and show us that there is some sort of democracy.
So... for it to be a real democracy I am supposed to delete his post?
What
is
wrong
with
your
democracy?
Bjord is a troll
Hardsteppa is a troll
Canary is a troll
Captain_Georges is a troll
Cepeshi is a troll
Chazey is a troll
Christo is a troll
Colonel_Sanders is a troll
Corwin is a troll
Fluffy_Muffin is a troll
Jambi is a troll
kinngrimm is a troll
Okin is a troll (!)
Have you at least looked at the people -ing nuffen before claiming they aren't serious ?
EDIT : Well, Banok is x)
'Tis an endless loophole, my friend, never-ending..(click to show/hide)
Please answer those 3 question:
What should I have done,
what have I done,
where did I fail.
I never claimed they aren't serious, if you meant me.
But this is a nice list really, 80% compromising of wolves/warg (voting because skawtish and murmillus got banned) and byzantium (can't say here since I don't know Ujin's reason). I'd say it's quite a nice proof of clan vote stacking, isn't it?
Well wargs have around 15-20 members. Dont know how much wolves have but its not much more then that. Let say around 80% voted/cared. Thats 40 at best out of 270. I dont have any idea how much byzantium guys voted.
You think guards/vrn/insert Nuffen support clan here didnt clan stack no votes? Dont be naive
I would do it like this though: player reports admin abuse then chadz & admin base reviews the accused admin's action, and not some enraged mob.
This would just mean more and more proving would be required from both sides. This might not seem fair for the people playing, as they might get the impression some devs and admins and all with both functions are friends with each other and will cover for them.
I laughed a lot about that. This is not a freakin republic. Nobody did any revolution. YOU DO HAVE NO RIGHTS. It's only a dev team trying to make a very nice game and gaining nothing in exchange. So if you like democraty go and be hired on a political group , but don't ask for democracy here.
Man, come on, man up, stand behind your words and show us that there is some sort of democracy.
This would just mean more and more proving would be required from both sides. This might not seem fair for the people playing, as they might get the impression some devs and admins and all with both functions are friends with each other and will cover for them.So they are supposed to not be friend to hate themselves , and every dev admin should try to backstab his mate to take his place? What a great game crpg would be if dev where not friendly coding...
Still better than what we have/had, I believe.
I laughed a lot about that. This is not a freakin republic. Nobody did any revolution. YOU DO HAVE NO RIGHTS. It's only a dev team trying to make a very nice game and gaining nothing in exchange. So if you like democraty go and be hired on a political group , but don't ask for democracy here.
They tried to put a democratical system to spot easier admin abusing , according to them it didn't work , they removed it. Nothing more to say .
They tried to put a democratical system to spot easier admin abusing , according to them it didn't work , they removed it. Nothing more to say .
Please answer those 3 question:
What should I have done,
what have I done,
where did I fail.
3 questions, one answer: Coding cRPG!
;-)
Keep up the drama, it's entertaining.
Oh, and:
Bjord is a troll - definitely
Hardsteppa is a troll - most of the times
Canary is a troll - can't say, don't know. But he's NA - what has he to do with EU-adminship? So yes, troll.
Captain_Georges is a troll - On the servers - defenitely. On such a vote? I don't think so.
Cepeshi is a troll - Former Bandit - of course a troll.
Chazey is a troll - Yup.
Christo is a troll - Not afaik.
Colonel_Sanders is a troll - Don't know him as being one, but I also seldomly speak to/with him
Corwin is a troll - Former Bandit - of course a troll
Fluffy_Muffin is a troll - Former Bandit - of course a troll
Jambi is a troll - He's a Merc - of course a troll
kinngrimm is a troll - Nah.
Okin is a troll (!) - Possibly, but not in such cases.
So, we got 8 out of 13, which is about exactly those 61% that voted for Nuffen's removal. Derp?
3 questions, one answer: Coding cRPG!
;-)
Keep up the drama, it's entertaining.
Oh, and:
Bjord is a troll - definitely
Hardsteppa is a troll - most of the times
Canary is a troll - can't say, don't know. But he's NA - what has he to do with EU-adminship? So yes, troll.
Captain_Georges is a troll - On the servers - defenitely. On such a vote? I don't think so.
Cepeshi is a troll - Former Bandit - of course a troll.
Chazey is a troll - Yup.
Christo is a troll - Not afaik.
Colonel_Sanders is a troll - Don't know him as being one, but I also seldomly speak to/with him
Corwin is a troll - Former Bandit - of course a troll
Fluffy_Muffin is a troll - Former Bandit - of course a troll
Jambi is a troll - He's a Merc - of course a troll
kinngrimm is a troll - Nah.
Okin is a troll (!) - Possibly, but not in such cases.
So, we got 8 out of 13, which is about exactly those 61% that voted for Nuffen's removal. Derp?
I never claimed they aren't serious, if you meant me.
But this is a nice list really, 80% compromising of wolves/warg (voting because skawtish and murmillus got banned) and byzantium (can't say here since I don't know Ujin's reason). I'd say it's quite a nice proof of clan vote stacking, isn't it?
Bjord - Byzantmy old friend
Hardsteppa - Templar nub
Canary - CHAOS
Captain_Georges - Byzant
Cepeshi - Warg
Chazey - Byzant
Christo - Clanless (?)
Colonel_Sanders - Byzant (?)
Corwin - Warg
Fluffy_Muffin - warg
Jambi - merc
kinngrimm - wolves
Okin - VRN
Math: 13 people, 4 of whom are in Wolves/warg. That leaves 9 people who are not in those clans.
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but is 4 out of 13 eighty percent?
Vibe, elementary school math must've been difficult for you.
Hardsteppa - Templar nub
Christo - Clanless (?)
Colonel_Sanders - Byzant (?)
Math: 13 people, 4 of whom are in Wolves/warg. That leaves 9 people who are not in those clans.
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but is 4 out of 13 eighty percent?
Vibe, elementary school math must've been difficult for you.
haha, nicely done Xant, thanks for the effort actually put into this :)
WHO IS THE CLANSTACKER NOW HA?
Finally we found something we could agree upon.Maybe you have some problem with subtle thing. CRPG game is not a democracy , it's like a firm. And a firm is a Boss disctatorship okay? In a firm you can put democratical process like "Should we change the coffee machine , or buy new micro wave" That's not because there is a democratical stuff into the firm , that the firm become a republic. If democratical system for a precise thing do fail , they can remove it. This is exactly what happen here.
It is easy to bitch on something, but way harder is to offer different solution. As long as it is word against word, it is going to be bad. But also, you cannot force people running around with fraps 24/7. We might have reached a deadlock here.
So, how is this not democracy when you said: they tried to put in a democratical system?
Quoted the part where you admittedly wrote it was a democracy TWICE, so you will not miss it.
the point is, changing the vote from a group of people that made the vote happen on first place to group of people that are obviously not comfortable facing consequences of features THEY implemented by themselves will not do any good. I do not mind them being friends at all, i just find it hard to believe that system where only dev and admin team would review this would be better.
with the added byzantium factor, yes :) the numbers are closing in, but still....
how many ppl downvoted his appl just for being pure mockery?
A friendly advice Tepesh. Stop posting, stop caring. Nothing will change, you will just get mocked. No1 gives a shit, those who give a shit are rediculed. The fact that this was moved to spam proves how many shits they dont give.
To all the people concerned by this: let us all follow Muffin and stop with this, obviously no shit was given by the people this was aimed at, useless to carry on. Just try to enjoy the game, do not get banned, and see ya on battlefields. With FRAPS ON ALL THE FUCKING TIME i guess.
But nuffen didn't get accepted again? Did he?...
Banned two of his clanmates for griefing (renamed the pimp<number>). Then I got moved into an own channel on the TS by bulldog (who is also applying for admin) and told to remove the bans or get removed as admin. I didn't let them press me into giving them special threatment based on the power of their clan, result, they mobilised and removed me. If democracy means big clans are above the law, yes, then democracy failed.
The sole fact that he removed that post proves that he's seen I meant Wolves/Warg AND Byzantium and therefore the result is much closer to my guess (80%).
This is correct, I realized you mentioned Byzantium afterwards. Which, to be honest, is retarded. So 8 out of 13 votes are from THREE different clans. That is still not even close to 80%, and that's three (3) different clans.
I don't know about the relationship between Wargs/Wolves, and I'm assuming they're sisterclans or something, but AFAIK Byzants have nothing to do with Wolves, and half of those 8 votes came from Byzants (which is a big clan), so..
Banned two of his clanmates for griefing (renamed the pimp<number>). Then I got moved into an own channel on the TS by bulldog (who is also applying for admin) and told to remove the bans or get removed as admin. I didn't let them press me into giving them special threatment based on the power of their clan, result, they mobilised and removed me. If democracy means big clans are above the law, yes, then democracy failed.
You should be a bit careful with your anti propaganda on a public forum, Mr. Nuffen. I never did or told anything from this crap what you said here !!!! A really cheap way you`re going.
Also 70% of the community voted against you, so stop your illusion from a clan conspiracy against you !!
P.s. Lansamur you are wrong, I´m even the biggest troll :?
First, 80% was a guess, not a calculation. Second, I made it obvious Byzants had their own reason (Ujin even wanted to start another Nuffen abuse thread). I'm not saying Ujin had no real reason to call abuse, because well, I don't know the details of that. But still, clan vote stacking - the system is/was flawed, majorly.
You should be a bit careful with your anti propaganda on a public forum, Mr. Nuffen. I never did or told anything from this crap what you said here !!!! A really cheap way you`re going.
Banned two of his clanmates for griefing (renamed the pimp<number>).
... lol? I was here when that happened. Two of our clanmate teamkilled 3 of them (oh, you certainly forgot to mention that). We complained, but no kick or ban for them (and you were online) so we had to defend ourselves because you didn't do your work. I even remeber the name of one of those guy (raleubeu).
Then I got moved into an own channel on the TS by bulldog (who is also applying for admin) and told to remove the bans or get removed as admin. I didn't let them press me into giving them special threatment based on the power of their clan, result, they mobilised and removed me.
Hilarious. Lansamur said us that bulldog is too soft and now you describe him as a dictator x)
I remember when you were moved to our channel, bulldog tried to explain you the situation (about raleubeu and others guy who tked us at spawn without any reason) but he never said that xd (but i'm french so (maybe) i could have misunderstand the conversation? :rolleyes: ). Pathetic.
I really doubt there was any clan vote stacking. Don't you think it's fairly unimpressive for 20++ member clans to only get 2-4 of their members to vote? Nah, what happened is that people who (supposedly) got aboozed told their friends all about the abooze, and their friends, being their friends, believed and voted against Nuffen. As it happens, friends tend to clan together and people in same clans interact a lot within their own clans, thus forming unique and warm friendships as they are homo sheeple.
@Renegat: Whoa there, easy. I never said I want to keep nuffen as an admin, infact I voted him down lol (I have my own reason). And hell, I never gave any lessons to Byzantium, what are you on about man? I only wanted to point out that the system is flawed. And 400 people voting is hardly the entire community.
I forgive Vibe cause he is slovenian :D
He's Slovenian??
Aaahhh man! That explain all!
You should told me that earlier, I wouldn't waste my time man!
Lol i meant it in a good way
-Humm? So why did you defend nuffen those 6 last page? Because you don't like Cepeshi? For the lulz? I don't get it x)
-Well, you said that those who voted against nuffen are childish/enraged mob/troll/... and then you cite byzantium as one of a clan who lead a "crusade" (your word) against him. So I thought byzatium were concerned by those words ( childish/enraged mob/troll/... ). But if it only concerned ppl who voted against him except us, that's fine :rolleyes: .
And even if we led a "crusade" against him, how could you think that we managed to make 250 players vote against him ... Maybe 15/20 of us voted, and we were all free to vote whatever we want. So no the system can't be flawed by one or two clans ;)
I want him to keep comming to our shores and spend money lol
He's Slovenian??
Aaahhh man! That explain all!
You should told me that earlier, I wouldn't waste my time man!
Like I said, I was only trying to point out that the system is flawed. I might be a bit wrong on the "clan-stacking" part, it's more of a "friend-stacking" as Xant said. I have no hard feelings for Byzantium, I know you guys can behave just well on public servers. If any of the fallens every did you any harm, then I apologize (but that's not really my matter and you should speak with them personally). "Crusade" was pointed at Cepeshi.
But my point stands, I doubt 266 people saw him abuse.
considering that you are the dude who kept claiming DaveUKR was autoblock hacking although we had a working detection method and he wasn't, i'd say you might wanna lay low on this man.
Oh rewind to da old story? First of all I didn´t start a public Forum propaganda against him. Second it was when was playing with an alt "Unknown Stranger" on the duel Server and it came out only later that it was Dave. Third I´m still in the opinion since some things got proofed (your Cheat prtection wasn`t working this day, we tested it with CMP) and I´ve a "bit" experience with it because of my duel Server which is the most used in Native. Maybe you missed some background infos, Miau...
Was on the server as nuffen banned that guy.
Skawtish is a special kind of player one would be tempted to kick.
About nuffen:
Good thing he was active, good thing he dealt with many ppl.
But
there is a huge difference in the ways an admin can act.
Stupid banning, even when right, equals a powertrip, the admin fails to keep his neutral position + no educational effect, just hate.
Nuffen should ve just talked / kicked more and he would ve been one of the best admins in this mod.
He just destroyed his good work with way too hardcore/impulsive punishments.
His biggest, maybe only, yet surely most crucial flaw.
Voted yes since I liked the fact he admined, but heavily disliked the "how" he did it.
Imho, there should be a more premier league like "sense of punishment."
Let things go and develop lil more... :-)
Why oh why, Vibe do you try to make ppl understand the simple fact that this system was flawed?
if they don't figure out by themself then it's helpless...
Internet = democracy ???
Banned two of his clanmates for griefing (renamed the pimp<number>). Then I got moved into an own channel on the TS by bulldog (who is also applying for admin) and told to remove the bans or get removed as admin. I didn't let them press me into giving them special threatment based on the power of their clan, result, they mobilised and removed me. If democracy means big clans are above the law, yes, then democracy failed.Oh you're such a hero. And also really good at lying. You got dragged by me and i was asking you "why did you deliberately ignore our requests to warn people teamattacking us and banned the 2 guys who didn't do anything?" , you've interrupted me halfway through (kept repeating "i don't wanna discuss admin stuff") and quit before even letting me finish. Than i dragged you again and said that if you didn't want to talk than i'd have to report you in the admin abuse section and that i had screenshots and frapses. You said " go ahead" . I said that you had a screwed up judgement and that was it.
@Vibe: remember that more nominations on him were made and more people in the past felt unjustly banned or whatsoever, so the numbers adds up
I am not expecting 180degree change, i just want them to realize something might be rotten in the Nuffenlands. I mean, three votes against him, that speaks for itself. If his application is just trolly, the guy has literally no freaking sense of normality. He knew it would piss many ppl off, yet he did it. Not hiding in shadows waiting for the flame to go away, just pouring more fuel to it. Good game, good game indeed. And all the devs team +ing his post is not really "community friendly" approach, as the community has spoken differently. Yeah, if he gets admin back, it will be pure spit in the face for the playerbase.
Just as at work: we are somewhat friends here, but when someone fucks up, i have to deal with him in the way it has to be done, we can go for beer afterwards, but at work we are on first place colleagues, then friends. Same should be for dev team. Seeing things objectively if its about friends IS hard, but surely doable.
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That's not the same I think. Our jobs are not totally different (if I make a big mistake some system is down for a while, if you make a mistake I think a lot of systems might get down, am I right? ^^).
yeah making a whole clan go spread the rumor that he is hacking without ANY proof is way better than making a public post...
it's cool if you are super full of yourself but don't expect others except your fanboys to think that way.
Yup, that is why we have quite strict rules at work. Yet, no-one is standing near to him, pointing gun to his head and telling: NOW U ADMIN OR UR DEAD! :) I do my work cause i need the money i get there :P He does this cause he can/want to. Not an excuse for bad performance.
Heard rumors that some rule set and according ban length is being set up, that could solve a lot.
yeah making a whole clan go spread the rumor that he is hacking without ANY proof is way better than making a public post...Meow , i don't know what happened, but your image of Bulldog is definetely off. And he didn't make "the whole clan" go spread the rumors , what the HELL are you on about ? Sometimes it seems like some people here just get their info from random irc conversations...
it's cool if you are super full of yourself but don't expect others except your fanboys to think that way.
Trust me, my application is not trolling, its 100% serious.
There are no rules that prevents me from reapplying
P.S. Nuffen , go on , keep lying , maybe come up with something even more controversial like " Bulldog and Ujin threatened my wife and 5 kids" too, why not. People on IRC will probably buy it anyway.
I don't have a wife and I have no kids.Here we go, that's a start. Baby steps Nuffen, baby steps.
Here we go, that's a start. Baby steps Nuffen, baby steps.
YO RACIST?!
Yo Slovenian NIG*A! wazzzap?!
Ps. Vibe, I'll give you back your 400 this winter in Pohorje or Krvavec ;)
Slovenian ski tracks suck, go to Austria :3
Slovenian ski tracks suck, go to Austria :3
I love how even Nuffen hate thread has turned into each person advertising how awesome their own country is. I love you, EU.
we have the best beer and awesome chicks!
I can at least confirm the part about the beer.
Lol man, great way of advertising your country
well, the chicks part is also true, Sylvia Saint is from a city close to one i work in :DWho the hell is...ohhh... :D
we have the best beer and awesome chicks!
Cepeshi, relax. :mrgreen:
He lost his powers and he ain't getting them back. No need getting upset about his "serious" application day after 260 people voted against him.
I am sure it is "serious" for him, but not for many others, I promise you that.
now i am calm :mrgreen:
Relax Ceppy.
SHHHHH...take a deep breath....breeeathe in...breath out...breathe in....breath out.....SHHHHHHHHH...let the whole world around you stand still while you focus and think of a calm and peaceful place filled with colorful birds singing songs and lush green forests around them....SHHHHH......beautiful flowers laying down on the ground with green and beautiful grass...a river with water streaming down gently and calm....Shhhhhhhh.....release your frustrations from your body and think of a peaceful world without anger....Shhhhh.......can you hear it?....
The wind passing you by, refreshing...relax....you must become 1 with your body.....Shhhhhhh......breathe in....breath out...breathe in...breathe out.
Okin is a troll (!)
Am not. :(
Kafein, i got it after you pm to me. And i agree to the second part i quoted.
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You just took that out of the context and now kinngrimm sent me a very polite pm about it I had to answer in an even more polite fashion. Whoever is in that list I did is NOT a troll IMO.
Also, calling every vote of warg/wolves/byzant/guards/VRN/fallens or any other involved clan as "clanstacking" is both logically flawed and just plain stupid.
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But, opening new admin applications just to have Nuffen post his appl. as first one the SECOND day after the community wanted him to be just regular player, that is laughing to the community's face in my eyes. And i also believe you had a laughter at dev chat about this.
too bad, he should have given you warning first :mrgreen:
also, after the vote passed and shit, and after i made this thread, the minute i logged to EU 1 i got a bad feeling, which got proven right when i was banned for one hour for nothing (yeah, good game trying not to look like some of admin team are not revengeful)
well, the ban might have been for raging, but still, kicking without any solid reason is fucking retarded, without even warning....sheeesh, way to ruin my gaming experience
This post makes it look like it was me, but at this point I was already demoted.
did not meant to make it look like you did it, no no, no Nuffen, other evul admin it was, wont name and shame as i could just get more problems :mrgreen:
but, getting first ban ever for such ridiculous made up reasons, gg nevertheless :)
I just got permabanned from my clans TS by Bulldog for pointing out in this forum, that they threatened me before they started the whole nomination process.
Its like banning someone ingame for what they say in this forum. And this guy is applying for adminship.
So basicly:
1. I ban two people for griefing
2. They are in the "wrong" clan, so I got an ultimatum, unban them or get the consequences.
3. I got nominated and demoted.
4. I got banned from the server.
Im happy for the other admins. Now they dont have to give members of powerful clans special threatment to keep their admin rights.
Nono, but most people would read it like that, and I dont wanna get blamed for bans that happens when Im not even admin. Enough bs around as it is :)
How is that chadz fault?
Good to know this entire community is still retarded. Feels good to be home.
Get back to SNSD!
I don't believe Bulldog wanted to do it, i have know him for a while and he only really bans someone when he feels it is right.
In this case Nuffen, he just wanted a calm talk so things could be sorted out and i don't feel that you gave him that, maybe because you are stressed at the moment due to recent events.
I will say that Nuffen is perhaps deffending himself by drawing attention to those who nominated him. By mistake, he got his facts wrong about Bulldog and now everything has spiralled out of control
What the fuck is wrong with you guys,for the last 4 days our only subject of talking is nuffen.
Ok,he made a fucking mistake,guess what Sherlock`s,he`s a fucking human too,same as you and me.
Do we have to kill him for doing a mistake?Or even two?
What the fuck is wrong with you guys,for the last 4 days our only subject of talking is nuffen.
Ok,he made a fucking mistake,guess what Sherlock`s,he`s a fucking human too,same as you and me.
Do we have to kill him for doing a mistake?Or even two?
What the fuck is wrong with you guys,for the last 4 days our only subject of talking is nuffen.
Ok,he made a fucking mistake,guess what Sherlock`s,he`s a fucking human too,same as you and me.
Do we have to kill him for doing a mistake?Or even two?
Are you feeling ok?
Nuffen, first I was really pissed because of your anti propaganda against me and my Clan (which isn`t even true) but now it´s just getting ridiculous. Either you are drunk or having some serious personal issues. You`re running after your lost adminship, like a small girl after a balloon which is flying away. And it seems that you are able to do anything to get some last prestige. Damn, wake up!! Open your eyes !!
Seriously stop bullshitting around the forum, lying and trying to put other peoples name into the dirt. It was enough Nuffen Show for now!! Ironsoul (yh imagine, a guy whos not in my Clan) can proof that it wasn`t like this how you`ve written it.
Best regards
What the fuck is wrong with you guys,for the last 4 days our only subject of talking is nuffen.
Ok,he made a fucking mistake,guess what Sherlock`s,he`s a fucking human too,same as you and me.
Do we have to kill him for doing a mistake?Or even two?
Yes, jeeez. Continue to defend behavior like this:
http://pastebin.com/HfmPcDnk
Now by banning me.
Yes, jeeez. Continue to defend behavior like this:
http://pastebin.com/HfmPcDnk
Now by banning me.
Rofl ''Tenne u wanna buy a hoe?''
lol
Anti propaganda fail :?
Sorry to dissapoint you again, Nuffen. I´m none of these PIMPS. Want my Game ID for a proof ??^^
I love how other people are creating the bitch threads, not Nuffen, yet people are acting like he is pursuing this... People fail at reading? I dunno, I am so amazing, look at me glow.
Goddamn,any1 know my old friendgish cause i cant understand shit.
Anti propaganda fail :?
Sorry to dissapoint you again, Nuffen. I´m none of these PIMPS. Want my Game ID for a proof ??^^
PIMPs Official Theme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6_s_SVhPgU
COME ON GET IT MAH ******!!!!!!
Can't we all just be friends and hug eachother again as we always did before? :?
but he's probably one of the most responsible, kind , calm and honest persons i've ever met.
test
Could you speak up good sir?
had to test if i would get on page 12 or 13 to decide on my formulation :D
might wanna recheck your circle of friends as i see him lying at least once in his last post...That's what you may think and i don't intend to prove anything anymore. My circle of friends is perfectly fine.
That's what you may thinkno actually that is what i checked and can tell is a fact... talking about the lying part here.
no actually that is what i checked and can tell is a fact... talking about the lying part here.
EDIT: there is only one pimp on that log and that is pimp9.
why would he use "these pimps" if he only meant pimp9 sure looks like he was saying he has nothing to do with the pimps...
also bitter is the wrong word i'd go with very amused about all this drama :mrgreen:
I´m none of these PIMPS.
He said he was not one of those pimpsfixed that for you :mrgreen:on the picture. He is pimp1.There's no pimp1 on the picture. So how did he lie again ? You anger is blinding you Meow.
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So nuffen got removed for banning people who needed to be banned?
Was pretty sure the nomination system was gonna get removed at some point, just sorta sad that it took this farcical case of baseless nomination for such to occur.
Its like banning someone ingame for what they say in this forum. And this guy is applying for adminship.
also nuffens application should not be counted the community voted him out its unfair to allow him to just reap as soon as his powers where removed..
Yes, jeeez. Continue to defend behavior like this:
http://pastebin.com/HfmPcDnk
Now by banning me.
the 1st reason you gave for banning of 1 of the pimps was what you herd on TS when you came in spying in our channel.
your a lair Nuffen and all the people that believe his crap, then your gullible. nuffen was voted out buy the community period! in the pimp insadent he alloed other people to spawn teram kill the pimps. he ignored admin chat asking him to take action. when asked to kick team killer in chat player where muted. this is abuse peroid. if anyone is ok with this from an admin they can go sodomize them self with a blunt object.
also nuffens application should not be counted the community voted him out its unfair to allow him to just reap as soon as his powers where removed..
I plus one Nuffen's application, not gonna lie. I think if Administration thinks he is a good choice then why not?
why are you so hung up on this 80% of the people in the server where talking all kind of crap for over an hour before this. why didint you post logs of that? or why didnt you give warnings or take action sooner? could it be your lazy or a bad admin nahhhhhhhhhh :rolleyes:
I guess its this mute your talking about?
http://pastebin.com/HfmPcDnk
Also, I was spectating both guys, warned them first time they teamwounded and banned last time. This is what applied to the guy teamwounding pimps too.'
Difference is, he stopped after the warning.
because hes not going to learn shit. he will learn if "im a lying whinny little bitch i cant get what ever i want." i do believe in 2nd chances but come on a day or so after they where removed? thats BS
It's called pointing something out or reducing it to the essential parts.
Like in porn where at some point you only get to see the genitalia.
And no offence but you are not helping your case here man :mrgreen:
you muted more than half the pimps
visitors can't see pics , please register or loginLOL :lol: should have known some one would say that
you muted more than half the pimps. manny for no good reason, also you banned 1 when he was being attacked one of your manly BS reasons you gave him was " he was fighting back:" so GJ on more lying BS.
I muted pimp 9, pimp 3 and pimp 2i dont remember how many. ill take your word on that. one question i have is why was admin chat ignored? me and i think 2 other told you about team killers.
I muted pimp 9, pimp 3 and pimp 2
i dont remember how many. ill take your word on that. one question i have is why was admin chat ignored? me and i think 2 other told you about team killers.
dont lye and BS this time come clean it was because you where pissed at the pimps and said in your mind F them they get what they deserve. am i close?
It wasnt ignored, I was spectating you guys all the time. Most of the "reports" was just bullshit, and some of them I saw you guys provoking with teamhits first, which is why I gave you all so many warnings before going for the banhammer at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx0Shn5Hvpc&ob=av2e
you gave one global waring "pimps this is you waring" or something like that. you never warned any other players. also you warning was so vague how the hell where people sapost to know what you where talking about? im done done replying to this.. its pointless
you gave one global waring "pimps this is you waring" or something like that. you never warned any other players. also you warning was so vague how the hell where people sapost to know what you where talking about? im done done replying to this.. its pointless
This your thinking about?
18:51:12 - [ADMIN][Secret_Admin_Alt] bodyroxx: pimps, TK is NOT ok, and you WILL be banned next time.