Author Topic: Throwing needs a serius buff <-----------------------------  (Read 12881 times)

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Re: Throwing needs a serius buff <-----------------------------
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2014, 02:14:41 pm »
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I totally agree with you Tzar, Fin and Mendro. Latest changes need to get reversed straightaway.

There are no throwers in the game anymore, I'm sure the developers will notice soon that they made a mistake.

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Re: Throwing needs a serius buff <-----------------------------
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2014, 03:28:51 pm »
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It's adjustment we're talking about.

And i wouldn't say it's a fault trying to balance the classes.

After our feedback (and i'm pretty sure of that) there will be some kind of revision on the whole throwing system (take Gurni's posts as an example). If this testing will prove that the average players damage potential is disproportionate to a throwers' - there will be further adjustments (ofc. within the limits of a class... would not make much sense if everyone would be as fast as a horse or have swords as long as an arrow can fly).

Dev's have proven that they DO care about every class including throwing - the numerous changes for that specific class are a clear sign for that if you ask me - not speaking about the years of passionate and direct support and care.

So after all i guess they're aware of the classes problems and working on a reasonable solution. But sometimes it's just just trial and error - there is no Guide on Amazon that says "how to balance throwing without pissing off the ppl throwing stuff or the ppl being hit."

So just give them some time.

It's the overhasty changes that really create problems - not the ones that are elaborate.

And every single one can take part in this by posting just and objective feedback.

Acting rude or accusing them of killing the class on purpose however just makes them ignore you :).
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Re: Throwing needs a serius buff <-----------------------------
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2014, 04:24:47 pm »
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lol no wonder I'm stuck with jarids +3 on the market. ggnore

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Re: Throwing needs a serius buff <-----------------------------
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2014, 04:54:33 pm »
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I'll take those jarids if you don't want them karasu :D
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Re: Throwing needs a serius buff <-----------------------------
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2014, 05:29:54 pm »
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After quick testing it seems that speed bonus doesn't really effect throwing at all which is the biggest problem. Medium cav rider will survive two jarids at full speed because of this, heavy ones probably a lot more. On the other hand, throwing at a cav running away from you deals almost the same damage now. All this is bs imo.

Make the speed bonus on throwing weapons far far bigger than it is atm. This will punish bad cavalry and infantry that charge directly at you. A slight damage buff could also be needed. 5PT and MW Jarids, I need 10 hits to bring down a plated charger. This prolly means I need 8 to kill Butan... Throwing was quite strong, even OP, at one point, but now it seems to be too weak.

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Re: Throwing needs a serius buff <-----------------------------
« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2014, 06:20:17 pm »
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No it really doesn't lol!!:)
« Last Edit: April 14, 2014, 09:28:06 pm by Normanguy »

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Re: Throwing needs a serius buff <-----------------------------
« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2014, 06:55:29 pm »
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No it really doesn't lol!!
Haha it really does lol!

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Re: Throwing needs a serius buff <-----------------------------
« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2014, 09:27:18 pm »
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I know but if everyone agrees then it eventually will :p

Remember when archer was buffed picture eu1 with throwers lol :D



And lol bein for the - and it wasn't even a serious comment lol

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Re: Throwing needs a serius buff <-----------------------------
« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2014, 10:24:41 pm »
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I have no idea about stats but throwing has always feels like an underpowered skill. The damage you do and the amount of ammo you have just doesn't make it feels worthwhile.. Not to mention the accuracy it comes with, the only way to efficiently kill people with your stack of throwing weapons is to make headshots, otherwise it has always been like 3. I havent played thrower in a year, or do I plan to play one other then for fun on my alt; robe guy staff man dart shield, playing siege.  :mrgreen:

I read somewhere in the posts that in the recent patch the throwing weapons got rendered useless vs cavalry aswell? That just cuts off the most usefull ability throwing had in battle. Ok, it also worked vs infantry but it really buttfucked the cavalry well good. With that gone you'd better go with a light crossbow with a light crossbow sword-board combo you'd be better off I figure, I mean those bundle of sticks HX still hurt my ass real hard.

Buff horsethrowing 2014 aswell :P  :mrgreen:

Edit: I have never owned throwing looms other then a +1 throwing lance(which I still have but that thing was never really a viable option other then use it for shits and giggles or on siege) so ive only thrown axes etc unloomed.
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Re: Throwing needs a serius buff <-----------------------------
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2014, 03:30:11 pm »
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I dont plan on playing thrower either until the class gets a fix, cause like mentioned troughout the thread by those of us dedicated throwers, throwing is currently just not worth it.
I've never played a server where people split up as much or as often as on EU1.  No wonder range is having a field day.

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Re: Throwing needs a serius buff <-----------------------------
« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2014, 03:46:28 pm »
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I dont plan on playing thrower either until the class gets a fix, cause like mentioned troughout the thread by those of us dedicated throwers, throwing is currently just not worth it.

Same for me

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Re: Throwing needs a serius buff <-----------------------------
« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2014, 04:58:39 pm »
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I dont plan on playing thrower either until the class gets a fix, cause like mentioned troughout the thread by those of us dedicated throwers, throwing is currently just not worth it.

Yup its kinda gay tbh
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Re: Throwing needs a serius buff <-----------------------------
« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2014, 05:59:39 pm »
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Throwing is still good, more buffs would just make it lean towards OP and rage will follow.
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Re: Throwing needs a serius buff <-----------------------------
« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2014, 06:11:33 pm »
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Some over-exaggeration ITT, throwing's still good, but the pierce weapons are still overcentralizing, though. Javs outdamage HTAs in most practical situations. Darts/War darts far outdamage their cut counterparts.

Just have to make use of all ways available to max your damage. Your own damage can increase a fair bit from your own speed bonus.

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Re: Throwing needs a serius buff <-----------------------------
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2014, 06:14:02 pm »
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Daggers compared to wardarts are 0 slot though, and HTA's have a pretty damn good melee while javs are, well, shit.
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