I Don't enjoy writing such long posts, I know they are hard to sit through and read, so I appreciate anyone and everyone who took the time to read it; it takes a long post to convey so much information in an accurate and truthful way rather than the summaries and slander usually thrown about, though they certainly serve their purpose of amusement. Sandersson, you should have read my post carefully because of your position, as every leader of the CC should have, yet it seems you have not because you do not understand me. I cite your most recent post, in which, might I add, I agree with you in wanting this all to be over. Indeed, it really is QUITE simple.
I don't reckon Relit really digs talking to you folks anymore, if you've got shit to say go ahead and add me on steam and say your piece.
Basically, here's how it is and I don't imagine that anything more needs to be said. This whole damn thing is stupid. Tretter attacked accidentally, and he said he'd give you your shit back. That's gonna happen; our concern ain't the gear. The attack was an accident and it wasn't sanctioned by anybody other than maybe Jack or Havelle, but I ain't sure about all that. Regardless, I know for a fact Relit/Artyem didn't say "Yeah Tretter, go ahead and attack this HoC guy." It should be noted that if Tretter asked me if he could attack, I would have told him that he could. We aren't under some neutrality agreement as you've said. Just because all of the old wars were ended does not imply that they can not be started anew.
Here's how shit's gonna be. If we see one of your dudes running around, don't assume we aren't going to attack you. We ain't assuming that you aren't going to attack us. This isn't a war declaration. I don't really see any reason beyond RP anyway to declare war on someone. You'll know it if we do that shit.
Nothing further should be said on this subject. This whole damn thread was pretty stupid, and your intent was to show that you think Relit is a *insert insult here*. You've accomplished that, maybe you've convinced other people that you're correct as well. Let this thread die, please. It has served its purpose.
My intent is not to tarnish anyone's name, nor to insult; i think that's very clear. No, I told my account of exactly what transpired so that everyone might understand the situation and not be led astray by misinformation and insults. My job is to represent my House and to protect it in every form, as is yours, Sandersson, and yours, Relit, and all others who represent a House. I have CLEARLY and very specifically stated that I do not wish to have war, but if I was not approached in some form to discuss these issues, namely the future relations between HoC and the CC, and come away from them with an official statement of diplomatic status, that, and ONLY THAT, would lead to war; but war it MUST lead to, because I will not have my men falling under random attack from a neutral faction when I do not send my own out to attack yours BECAUSE OF THAT NEUTRALITY. War is war. Peace is peace. Should I spell it out for you? Neutrality dictates non-aggression, so you must not attack us, and we must not attack you. We are at peace. We do not have to be friends; I wish it but many of you do not. You are not obligated to help us in our conflicts, and we are not obligated to help you, for we are not ALLIED. But only WAR allows the attacking of our faction, or yours, by the other. So, now that I have defined these terms, AS I OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO, SANDERSSON...I say this again. We are neutral. We are not at be attacked, and we are not to attack you.
Now, you DISPUTE this neutrality; how this is still possible, I do not know, as in my last post I gave true evidence of this, as did Jona in his. You say that though old wars are ended, they can be started anew. Yes, this is true, but tell me, when did the CC declare war on HoC? Or did I miss that as well, along with the tearing up of your global neutrality agreement? You say you are not declaring war! Then we are not at war, as I have said the same. You acknowledge that Tretter's attack was a mistake; good, then we are of the same opinion on at least one thing. I do NOT hold Tretter accountable for any of this, and I have said that. You say it was not sanctioned, that there was no 'go ahead' given by a leader of the CC. I point again to my own words; I NEVER said he asked. He attacked thinking it was his duty, and I respect that, as I would have done the same in is position had I not know of the very-real neutrality. What I did say was that in response to the incident I was told through Hungry that Relit and Artyum supported the attack, supposedly THEIR OWN RESPONSES TO THE INCIDENT (and I trust him above any other Raven or man otherwise), as do you apparently support it, Sandersson, and they denied the neutrality between us, though it had previously been confirmed. Again, see my last post.
AGAIN AND AGAIN YOU CONTRADICT YOURSELVES. YOU READ THESE POSTS AND CONTINUE TO RESPOND WITH INSULT AND WEAK DEFENSES OF YOUR POSITION, YET NO MESSAGE, NO ENVOY, NOT EVEN A POST IS DIRECTED TOWARDS ME IN RESPONSE TO OUR OFFICIAL DIPLOMATIC STATUS, EXCEPT TO UNOFFICIALLY DENY OUR NEUTRALITY FURTHER. AM I TO THINK WE HAVE BEEN AT WAR THIS WHOLE TIME, DESPITE THE BLATANT TRUTH OF PEACE DECLARED BY
YOU YOURSELVES, AND WHICH I PERSONALLY CONFIRMED AND AGREED TO WITH RELIT HIMSELF, AND THAT THE MIGHTY CLANS OF RAVEN, DRACUL, AND FRISIA HAVE BEEN TOLD TO HIDE BEHIND THEIR WALLS BY THEIR LEADERS FROM THE TWO-FIEF HoC? IS THIS WHAT YOU EXPECT THE COMMUNITY TO BELIEVE? OR WILL YOU MAN THE FUCK UP, ADMIT YOUR MISTAKE IN CONTRADICTING YOURSELVES AND PROVOKING HOSTILITIES, AND FUCKING COME TO ME TO TALK LIKE MEN SO WE MAY RESOLVE THIS ISSUE WITH CIVILITY AND NEVER AGAIN RETURN TO THE THE HELL-HOLE THAT IS THE FUCKING FORUMS OF SHIT-FLINGING FUCKERY WITH THIS ISSUE? TELL ME WHAT IT WILL BE, FOR IF YOU CONTINUE TO IGNORE THIS ISSUE AND LEAVE OUR CLANS AT EACH OTHER'S THROATS, IT WILL BE YOUR OWN FAULT, YOUR OWN SHAME TO BEAR, YOUR OWN DISHONOR, YOUR OWN HUMILITY, AND YOUR OWN JACK-ASSERY TO ACCEPT, AS WE WILL ASSUME YOU MAY ATTACK AT ANY TIME AND PLACE, AND SO WILL HANDLE OUR DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH YOU ACCORDINGLY.
