Star Citizen

[Leshma]

They released new version, offers better performance but it almost crash happy as first versions.

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[Leshma]

And this is just not true. PTU means "Public test universe." It's meant to be unstable on PTU. PTU is the alpha of the alpha version. Releasing it helped them fix a ton of stuff.

That's what engine programmer said. I understand what PTU is, but frankly speaking Star Citizen community is 99% morons and you can feed them kool aid for some time before they start wrecking havoc. One thing is certain, they aren't capable of reasoning and explaining alpha testing to them is hard sell when project isn't sticking to initially set schedule.

tl;dr community is treating 2.0 like final release with limited content

[Xant]

200,000 people have access to 2.0 now. Shouldn't be long until release.

[Senni__Ti]

200,000 people have access to 2.0 now. Shouldn't be long until release.

Up to Citizen ID 210K have access.

Also recent bug fixes:
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/301708/2-0-0h-publish-to-ptu#latest

[Xant]

This was pretty awesome.

[Vibe]

This was pretty awesome.

That's awesome. Just what I expect from being able to get out of the ship anywhere you want. Can't see all the possible stuff that can happen in this game.

[Leshma]

[Leshma]

That's awesome. Just what I expect from being able to get out of the ship anywhere you want. Can't see all the possible stuff that can happen in this game.

So far interesting gameplay is exclusively emergent. Scripted stuff they've put in isn't that interesting (yet). Problem with emergent gameplay is amount of things that could go wrong. You can exit ships in many ways but you're not supposed to open that hatch and jump out in space. Bigger ships have escape pods that aren't functional yet and I think they will redo single seaters in a way so part of their cockpit doubles as escape capsule.

[Vovka]

mine id 256k 

[Leshma]

When they get to your citizen number, Crash Citizen is going to become even better. At least when it comes to crashing more often.

[Xant]

It's doubtful they'll go to 250k+ before having most of the crashes fixed.

[Leshma]

Some people are concerned over the crashes experienced on the PTU, which is understandable, but I wanted to shed a little light. It has been mentioned that we are pushing out builds and failing due to crashes... that is incorrect. We are pushing out patches that we know have crashes in them already. Those crashes are being addressed already, and being knocked out very quickly. Layers of an onion. Some might say... "Why release a build with crashes if you already know they are there?" One word: Data. We want to know how wide-scale these issues are and all the gritty details. Additionally, we would much rather continuously push the newest version of the game and have thousands and thousands of people hammer on it, because there is a chance new bugs can be discovered. PTU is not meant to be a release stream for everyone to just go and play. It is a test environment meant to plow through issues and get the game in a release-ready state. We are methodical with how we are releasing patches. We are not blindly pushing crashy patches. There is a lot of thought, analysis, tinkering, and fixing that goes into the PTU. It is not an environment for the faint of heart who are just looking to relax and play in Crusader. It is for players who are willing to face the storm with an umbrella and assist with testing. I can confidently say that we are extremely happy with how involved the community has been and are on the right track to getting 2.0 out to everyone soon! The amount of issues we have come in on the issue council has been incredible. We definitely feel extremely fortunate to have such an involved community that is as excited to play this game as we all are. We are getting close and this is only the beginning!

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3vy2xq/zyloh_gives_an_update_on_the_state_of_the_ptu/

I'm obviously incredibly stupid because this is not how i imagined bug fixing actually works. Should we be thankful for bugs, because they show us ways game can be broken? Why don't other game developers share this secret sauce with their player base, instead of fixing them bugs themselves in silence? I'm not worthy of this PTU, pre-alpha and glorious bugs in general.

If you're more than base package in this project and you value your money, ask for refund. I'll wait how this will play out, wasted money on stupid things before. Following this project already paid off 24 euros so yeah...

[Xant]

Do you not understand what PTU is? What don't you understand about the quote? You have to literally download a separate Star Citizen to even have access to PTU, because it's not "the game" in any shape or form. It's to help the developers test (which is what alpha should be, but people like you don't understand what an alpha is so they had to make an alpha of alpha.)

[Xant]

Some highly upvoted quotes from that reddit thread for anyone confused by Leshma's current personality:

The simple fact that an Alpha requires an Alpha - and now you have people in the alpha of the alpha asking for another alpha before pushing it to the alpha's alpha .... it just reinforces that a lot of citizens are not able to handle alphas at all.

PTU is not meant to be a release stream for everyone to just go and play. It is a test environment meant to plow through issues and get the game in a release-ready state.

The amount of times I've tried to hammer this into people's heads...

[Vibe]

Really though, what exactly did you expect from an Alpha of an Alpha Leshma?