Okin got played.
Not really, the implied connection/contradiction doesn't actually exist. Out-of-context quotes aren't particularly impressive.
The situation Kapikulu and HRE faced last year, which I was referring to, was in no way similar to the circumstances of our war with the Templars this year. Yes, we were forced to seek an ally after the Templars and Wolves ganked us (actually putting us in a situation identical to that faced by HRE and Kapikulu, or if anything even more dire), and found one in the Greys. However, there was no ganking involved in the counterattack, in fact we successfully invaded them with vastly inferior numbers of troops, despite their defensive advantage. We beat them with superior player skill, and no amount of excuses or snide remarks can change that.
I hope your false analogies help warm your heart while you hide out in NA land, Nocti.
Pretty sure Okin said that stuff in either this thread or a more recent diplomacy thread.
The other posts are from last year, not sure I'd call those recent.