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What maps do you want to see?

Mirror maps, the eptiome of balance and boredom
8 (6.9%)
Only balanced maps. No excuse
14 (12.1%)
Nearly only balanced, with some unique villages
12 (10.3%)
Mostly balanced, but with more "good looking" maps for variety
45 (38.8%)
Good looking maps, with less regard to balance
14 (12.1%)
Potatos
23 (19.8%)

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Offline Leiknir

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The official eu1/eu2 "this map sucks/I want this map" thread
« on: March 07, 2011, 06:04:11 pm »
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If no one stops me, I am going to revise the map cycle on eu1/eu2 next weekend, as there are some strange villages in there.
If you find a map you would like to see removed, get me it's name and a reason why it sucks (screenshot gives bonus points, if its a village, you can use http://eelio.pagesperso-orange.fr/ to get a nice picture). Just telling me to remove that village on that hill won't do the trick, as there are 110 villages, so please provide a name. If you dont want to lose your modifier, you can start mb:wb a second time and look at the server browser to see the name of the map.

If you want a map added, provide screenshots, links to download etc, but I won't add fantasy (flying fortress stuff), symmetrical maps (like the NA-bridge map) or other imbalanced/strange maps.



The removal list so far (if you see a map you want to keep, give me a reason, or fix it when it just needs to be fixed). Will be changed according to the poll:

    Unbalanced:
    • Uzgha, it's a village siege, not battle. Looks nice, but not balanced at all
    • Aldelen, unbalanced sides, provides too much camping
    • Amashke, unbalanced sides, provides too much camping


    Broken spawns:
    • Ibiran, the spawns are next to each others.
    • Jayek, the spawns are next to each others. Or change spawns.
    • Elberl, spawns are next to each others. Could be nice map if spawns are changed.
    • Ismirala, unbalanced spawn again
    • Saren
    • tshibtin

    Dull, boring, or not really battle material
    • Gisim, shitty huge mountain! Spawn change could fix this though.
    • Jamiche, very open and flat field in front of village
    • Dugan, very open and flat field in front of village
    • Habba, same as Dugan
    • Dusturil. One team starts in village, the other under a giant hill. Very boring.

    The add list so far:

    -That one awesome ruins map I saw on eu4, if you have the name/link/permission, please tell me

    Thranduil
    -Bariyye
    -Blue Bells & Beech Trees
    -Burning of the Ships
    -RuIn
    -Santa's Castle

    Nasturtium
    -Ambushed

    Chagan_Arslan
    -River delta
    -Tilting at windmills



    Lets hope that list gets a little bit longer until next weekend  :wink:
« Last Edit: March 13, 2011, 04:02:36 am by Leiknir »
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Re: The official eu1/eu2 "this map sucks/I want this map" thread
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2011, 06:19:28 pm »
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Remove:

Aldelen, unbalanced sides, provides too much camping

Amashke, unbalanced sides, provides too much camping

Dugan, very open and flat field in front of village

Elberl, spawns are next to each others. Could be nice map if spawns are changed.

Fisdnar, unbalanced sides, provides too much camping
 
Gisim, shitty huge mountain! Spawn change could fix this though.

Habba, same as Dugan

Ibiran, the spawns are next to each others.

Ismirala, unbalanced spawn again

Jamiche, very open and flat field in front of village

Jayek, the spawns are next to each others. Or change spawns.


somebody else continue
« Last Edit: March 07, 2011, 06:46:16 pm by Mustikki »

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Re: The official eu1/eu2 "this map sucks/I want this map" thread
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2011, 06:33:56 pm »
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What official?
Why is everybody telling me to think? I think, I just don't show it.

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Re: The official eu1/eu2 "this map sucks/I want this map" thread
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2011, 06:36:05 pm »
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What official?

Official as in "I got access to the map cycle and if no one stops me I do it"

Also, feel free to submit village maps with fixed spawns, if only thats the problem.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2011, 06:38:29 pm by Leiknir »
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Re: The official eu1/eu2 "this map sucks/I want this map" thread
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2011, 05:13:27 pm »
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I always see everyone complaining about nearly only village maps on the servers, if you don't bring suggestions until the weekend, it will never change!  :(
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Re: The official eu1/eu2 "this map sucks/I want this map" thread
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2011, 05:27:07 pm »
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Less "lul I iz put ladd0rz and kampz villge" maps.

More random plains/etc maps.

That's it.  :wink:
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Re: The official eu1/eu2 "this map sucks/I want this map" thread
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2011, 05:33:54 pm »
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(almost) Every village map is unbalanced imo, for this I'd prefer the villages to be removed by a different key : the unique/interesting/different ones should stay and those that are so much similar to each other and boring should be removed. also those villages with extremely steep hills should be removed imo.

I agree with the list, but Uzgha village is imo nice - there is no village like this one and it brings nice variety into the game. I also don't think its so unbalanced as people think. Scaling the walls is easy there from all the sides and defenders on roof often get into crossfire. I'd keep this one :o)

aye and +1 for christo - more open fields please

i also prefer NA servers map rotation that is way faster. on eu the 5:4 matches take ages and the map gets often boring very quickly, especially when you know there are going to be 3 more rounds at least of just this map that you hate.... i'm down for faster map rotation.
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Re: The official eu1/eu2 "this map sucks/I want this map" thread
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2011, 05:47:07 pm »
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Gisim, shitty huge mountain! Spawn change could fix this though.

We were defending that village several times on Strat battles, it's a killer unless you know how to do it  8-).  But I agree - shitty huge mountain!
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Re: The official eu1/eu2 "this map sucks/I want this map" thread
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2011, 06:23:29 pm »
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Added a poll, as I feel the same for Uzgha, might not be balanced, but still fun to play, if you don't need to keep that x5 all the time.
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Re: The official eu1/eu2 "this map sucks/I want this map" thread
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2011, 09:32:33 pm »
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As usual, people will constantly bitch and moan in-game. Someone decides to do something about it and there's silence.
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Re: The official eu1/eu2 "this map sucks/I want this map" thread
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2011, 09:35:28 pm »
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Less "lul I iz put ladd0rz and kampz villge" maps.

More random plains/etc maps.

That's it.  :wink:

no way! no more random plains!

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Re: The official eu1/eu2 "this map sucks/I want this map" thread
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2011, 09:43:00 pm »
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no way! no more random plains!

Afraid?

Field battles would be cool though. I miss them.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2011, 09:44:17 pm by Christo »
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Re: The official eu1/eu2 "this map sucks/I want this map" thread
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2011, 10:02:24 pm »
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We need moar cav maps, check eu4 out, they do it right, so does NA.

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Re: The official eu1/eu2 "this map sucks/I want this map" thread
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2011, 10:09:26 pm »
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We need moar cav maps, check eu4 out, they do it right, so does NA.

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Re: The official eu1/eu2 "this map sucks/I want this map" thread
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2011, 10:32:40 pm »
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Leiknir or someone else who is going to be responsible for the future maplist, pm me and we can discuss / test the maps on Shogunate_cRPG , i can suggest some really good ones if you don't mind.