archery..

[Gravoth_iii]

Change so that Str doesnt give 1hp each point, and instead iron flesh gives 3 or 4 per point, this way archers would be turned VERY squishy unless they put points in ironflesh which would make their build less focused on running and gunning and a bit more on survival. Or remove arrow stun, other than that i dont mind the damage they deal.

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197974489278/screenshot/524905218674813230?tab=public

says it all ;)

Its like a game!

lol, manipulate pictures to show what you want...pic has clearly been taken on duel serv, after each duel health resets but arrow stay. nice attempt

if it's irony, sorry but i didnt grasp it.

remy, i use barbed arrows and i do very fine on my HA

[BlindGuy]

lol, manipulate pictures to show what you want...pic has clearly been taken on duel serv, after each duel health resets but arrow stay. nice attempt

if it's irony, sorry but i didnt grasp it.

remy, i use barbed arrows and i do very fine on my HA

OBVIOUSLY thats not a battle pic man, Ppl are claiming they get 2 hit bodyshot with 50 armour, THATS A FUCKING LIE, unless they have run into a  39 STR archer with a MW longbow and bodkins, and there are not many of those about.

[MrShine]

OBVIOUSLY thats not a battle pic man, Ppl are claiming they get 2 hit bodyshot with 50 armour, THATS A FUCKING LIE, unless they have run into a  39 STR archer with a MW longbow and bodkins, and there are not many of those about.

Well, I think it is possible with bodkins and a low hp target, provided you are using a higher tier bow.  Since bodkins are pierce hp is the thing that helps survive those, not armor as much.

But it's not common, and downright rare with anything other than a longbow or maybe a rus.  The thing is people will get 2 shot and that will stick in their memory, not the times where it took 5 or 6.

[Angantyr]

As you can see from the screenshots I've posted in this thread projectiles are able to two-shot a 47 torso armor guy with a decent amount of hitpoints - as long as it has a good speed bonus.

It is of course true that it doesn't happen all the time, as MrShine touches upon, and without a speed bonus (as when you for example test it on a duel server without the infantry running towards the archer) the damage output is much lower, in the case of my main inf character about 4-6 arrows from a decent archer.

[Dravic]

As you can see from the screenshots I've posted in this thread projectiles are able to two-shot a 50 torso armor guy with a decent amount of hitpoints - as long as it has a good speed bonus.

It is of course true that it doesn't happen all the time, as MrShine touches upon, and without a speed bonus (as when you for example test it on a duel server without the infantry running towards the archer) the damage output is much lower, in the case of my main inf character about 4-6 arrows from a decent archer.

Protip:

When an archer shoots at you and you don't know how to dodge and you are sure he WILL land a hit on you, step back to get negative speed bonus. Should help.

[Tzar]

Pro tip: dont get into a balance Discussions with Ranged since its pointless trying to make sense to someone who cant use the melee features of the game an depends on being able to shotgun people in 2 shots to gain some kdr.. 

[Remy]

Pro tip: Pro tips are silly.

[Angantyr]

Even when you are being forthcoming to arguments from 'the other side' you are being patronized by nåbs who've not only played the game much less than yourself, but who are also in no position whatsoever to presume they know how you play 

Thank you MrShine for at least having a reasonable debate culture 

[Meow]

I played an archer for 1 1/2 gens now after about 3 gens of throwing and 9 gens of pure 2h/polearm.

If you bitch about archers you need to learn to play or play on the melee only server.

It's the most frustrating class I played so far but I enjoy the support role especially when it comes to taking down cav and staggering enemies during melee fights.

Sorry to destroy your melee hero dreams =(

Games like this require more than just twitch reflexes and to be skilled at the game you will need to learn to just deal with it and adjust your tactics.

On my melee builds I was everything from 21 agi to 6 agi as in 18str to 33 str.
Never did I have any serious problems with ranged.
Maybe with the throwing lances for a short time but those are now super gimp

[Tzar]

Herp derp derp i fail at melee so i use a str build derp derp tried archer cant aim either derp derp derp...

PS: if u had some awareness you wouldn't have been such an easy kill playing as archer  killing you when your on your archer alt was like stealing candy from a little kid

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

OBVIOUSLY thats not a battle pic man, Ppl are claiming they get 2 hit bodyshot with 50 armour, THATS A FUCKING LIE, unless they have run into a  39 STR archer with a MW longbow and bodkins, and there are not many of those about.

well no its not a lie, happens to me, of course its not 80% of the time but yes it does happen, better, losing half hp for an arrow shot to the arm...

[Memento_Mori]

booooooooooooooooobies

[Meow]

herpderp I can not read and try to make everything but my class look shitty because I have no skill to adjust.

Glad you called me out on the awareness instead of realizing that you lack it if you get shot all the time.
But yeah, I think we all got it by now, you want this to be a sword hero duel game and you are butthurt it is not.
Sadly repeating that over and over again will not make you a better player.

Might just wanna stop crying if you are incapable of understanding what other people are writing.

[Tzar]

hmn... i seen how you play an you cant really call me out for not being able to tell you lack awareness you practicably stand still with your archer while i mow you down unlike blackbow who dogde me like its the matrix an pew pew my 135 hp an 31 armor pony in 4 shots.. not counting headshots..

offocurse i get shot half the time i cant dodge 21 archers focusing me plus they can just hold their draw an run around me an avoid my shield if they wish too..

playing on eu4 with 23 players on the enemy team 13 of em are archers i let you think about why its such a popular class your the dev i take it you have some insight as to how it works...

i never said i want the game to be a sword hero game but if you find the game to be any fun spending half the time playing chasing kiting archers or gettin shotgunned then by all means ignore people complaining 

Tenne is the only archer i know who dont kite an carry a decent melee weapon rest is just a bunch of cs players who depend on shotgunning their victims an avoiding melee at all cost..