The state of cRPG

[Kafein]

Yeah, melee combat is WAY to fast and spammy right now, GREAT idea.

Say it, combat is not more spammy now than it was 3 months ago. Say it.

[BlackMilk]

Say it, combat is not more spammy now than it was 3 months ago. Say it.

Combat is not more spammy now than it was 3 months ago.

[Shpritza]

Say it, combat is not more spammy now than it was 3 months ago. Say it.

Combat is not more spammy now than it was 3 months ago.

[Kafein]

Lies.

Was the 1h left swing spammable 3 months ago ?
Was hiltslash the most used (or at least, tried) melee tactic 3 months ago ?

[BlackMilk]

Dude did you even play the game 3 months ago?

hiltslash is the most used melee tactic since atleast august and 1h left swing was spammable in native beta already.

[Kafein]

Dude did you even play the game 3 months ago?

I may have to return the question, although I know you did.

hiltslash is the most used melee tactic since atleast august and 1h left swing was spammable in native beta already.

Hiltslash only became widely used "recently". My point is, when it was only done by xandhold and Tor it was okay. But now the first guy I encounter in battle tries it, which is utter lame.

Even though I never stopped playing cRPG since september 2010, I have yet to remember a time I was successfully spammed by a 1h leftswing. It had always been fast, but never to the point you could just spam it. Anyway, what is important isn't the game engine, it is what the players are able to do with it.

[Teeth]

But now the first guy I encounter in battle tries it, which is utter lame.

Not for me

[Kafein]

*exageration may be present in the quoted sentence, accounting for and not restricted to parts or the whole object or facts exposed in the aforementioned sentence. We decline all responsibilities in case of literal reading.

[BlackMilk]

Hiltslash only became widely used "recently". My point is, when it was only done by xandhold and Tor it was okay. But now the first guy I encounter in battle tries it, which is utter lame.

Even though I never stopped playing cRPG since september 2010, I have yet to remember a time I was successfully spammed by a 1h leftswing. It had always been fast, but never to the point you could just spam it. Anyway, what is important isn't the game engine, it is what the players are able to do with it.

1. No, not really. Lots of players used it in july (including myself) already. Not sure why you didnt recognize them.

2. You can spam pretty much everything against a bad opponent and 1h left swing has been spammable in m&b already. LoR for instance has been using it for ages.

[Frankysan]

what i fail to get is why when 2h get tuned with the !ready time of all other weapons so many ppl start talking about a change in game speed.
if the mod was too slow, it was already before this right swing fix, changing the speed of a single class doesn't slow down the mod, just makes the speeds more similar for everyone. Since 2h are the majority of melee (non shielders) players maybe the impact looks bigger, but still: they are getting tuned to other weapons, and again they are still freaking insane. My 2cents is if you have any 18/21 15/24 x/27 or even just a 21/18 build with either a greatsword or an heavy bastard/longsword/katana/whatever and you fail because of the inability to "hilstslash" you are doing it very wrong. I find myself picking up with 0wpf mw longswords if i have to face some ugly agi whore; i may not be a great player, but what i see is the combat speed crying got to be so important only after 2h got touched..

at this point 2+2=4  Not being able to cut in half animations with greatswords is not a balance issue. This said i still agree on combat being a bit too slow, and since way before this last wave of patches

[San]

If 1h left swing is speed reduced, increase the speed of the other directions. Right swing can't even interrupt a long maul properly, lol.


Funny how a lot of 2h players want 1h speed reduced, like it's much of a threat.

[Banok]

new sig

don't I feel special.

[Teeth]

Hey Banok, come play.

[MrShine]

If we're all about fucking with swing speeds and block times, can we then make it so having your thrust attack blocked doesn't sometimes lead to a free hit for the enemy (especially if it's chambered)?

Because that's annoying as hell.

[Gurnisson]

If we're all about fucking with swing speeds and block times, can we then make it so having your thrust attack blocked doesn't sometimes lead to a free hit for the enemy (especially if it's chambered)?

This! Polearms and two-handers always gets a delay after stabbing into a block which makes the opponent get an unblockable hit on you afterwards, depending on the range between you and your enemy. 2Hs get the worst delay, while polearms have a lot shorter thrust and thus have to be closer to stab. It's ridiculous that people should be completely vulnerable just because a guy blocked one of your attacks.