Strategus Battles - Respawn timer based on K:D

[chadz]

We had a long discussion yesterday evening about this, and I'd like to hear more opinions about this.

The idea is as follows: Both teams start with a respawn timer of, say, 10 seconds. Every time One guy dies, it takes 10 seconds to respawn.

As the battle goes, the kill:death ratio will shift - which would also shift the respawn timer (for the whole team).

With a good K:D ratio, one team could get reinforcements within 3 seconds, while the worse team would eventually have to wait up to 25, 30 seconds per respawn.

Also, if a spawn is taken, you cannot respawn on it any more - if all spawn are taken, the enemy gets routed.

Reason for this? It would eventually allow more tactic in battles, it would allow a smaller team to win against a large team by being clever.

Thoughts?

[Erasmas]

Respawn - so its for siege mode only?

If so: +1, it may balance the chances for defenders. Only thing...  I am not sure about this spawn taking...

[KaleLord]

I think it should be the opposite actually
The worse team should have faster respawn time so they can have a chance to retaliate
If they do successfully retaliate Both teams will  respawn at same rate again

[CtrlAltDe1337]

Do you mean having some kind of spawn/capture points?  Becuase I think that's a good idea.  But as far as the respawn timer, I'm not sure how u mean it to work.  People with better or worse K/D ratio gets a shorter timer?

Because if its the worse guys, that's just penalizing the good team.  But if its for the better team, that's just giving them a bigger advantage and hurting the team which is losing atm.  Would it be possible to implement this in a test game before adding it to all the Strategus battles?  Because I am skeptical.

[KaleLord]

With a good K:D ratio, one team could get reinforcements within 3 seconds, while the worse team would eventually have to wait up to 25, 30 seconds per respawn.

Thoughts?

[BlackGyver]

This is a brilliant idea, and I'm really looking forward to ingame evolutions. Finally battles might have sense now.

I'm a bit worried on how it could effect Siege battles, though. What about setting one "hard" respawn for each team (one on the flag for defenders, one off the walls for attackers), and leave the rest be "soft" respawns; ie. tactical choke points, each army trying to take it back.

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In red, attackers hard respawn. In blue, defenders hard respawn. In yellow, tactical soft respawns.

Soft respawns could aswell help lowering the respawn timer, maybe ?

I think it should be the opposite actually
The worse team should have faster respawn time so they can have a chance to retaliate
If they do successfully retaliate Both teams will  respawn at same rate again

No, the point here is to see less bullshit on the battlefield; more cautious teams, and more teamplay.

[Furax]

Would you still keep your routed troops? Or could one technically lose 10.000 soldiers versus a shock squad of 100?

[chadz]

you would (probably) keep the troops, but lose some/all? of your gear.

[Tristan]

I like the idea of being able to rout an enemy.

But make it so that looser looses x amount of troops, money and EQ in the process (though not all). What ever X is I have no idea.

[Furax]

Then I support this idea, perhaps keep some equipment? Maybe lose 50-75% of it as a punishment for beeing routed.

And I think you should lose some troops also, just not all of them(maybe more depending on the number of enemy troops?)


Oh and when were talking about the respawn time, its not induvidual spawning we are talking about right? Waves I presume, otherwise the losing team would soon be doomed to rout nomatter what

[Leiknir]

Does it calculate troop ratios somehow? Else you will just see normal10k armies destroyed by 60fullplate charger people.

[Kengil]

My first thought is "Cool".  Sounds like this could make battles more interesting and give teams a reason to push forward.
Possible misuse is cav rush around the enemy force just to ninja cap the enemy spawns.

[Camaris]

Ok what do you do if the better team starts to exploit that tactic.

For example:
You have one big army of bad equiped soldiers and one small army with very good equpiment.
Maybee a battle 10000 vs 1000. The Good equiped Soldiers start very well soon getting a k/d ratio of 5:1 or better.

In normal battle they still would lose. But now they could easily win and kill the whole army.
At one point (good army spawns within 5 seconds bad army within 30 seconds) on one bad equipped guy there would be
nearly the full team of the good army. With that long respawn time the bad army would be killed one by one from archers/ cav etc.

The point is if the good army manages to get to this point there is no more reason to take any further respawnpoint. You would
let your opponent keep the last respawnpoint until the last man of them spawned and you can kill his own army without the opponent
being able to do very much against this.

Its better to implement mobile Respawnpoints (to be able to spawn on the wall as attacker for example) which can be taken etc.

[Olwen]

i would suggest maps with 5 strategic respawn

each team starts with 1 respawn, then there's 3 strategic respawns on the map at strategic points, like a hill, a bridge, a forest, a building or whatever

each spawn you conquer gives you some seconds less to respawn or gives you an advanced respawn, if you get 4/5 of the spawns you root the enemy who has to retreat, losing some troops and equipment

so no camp, no ninja rush, tactics and real strategy

maybe less spawns for smaller battles

[Hecur]

+1

Good Idea