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Re: End this STR madness
« Reply #60 on: September 26, 2011, 01:51:05 pm »
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Re: End this STR madness
« Reply #61 on: September 26, 2011, 01:52:10 pm »
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Another solution is to nerf the free wpf you get per level, and channel it into wpm in stead.

i like this a lot

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Re: End this STR madness
« Reply #62 on: September 27, 2011, 07:38:10 am »
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and there's a big difference between 116 wpf and 146 wpf.

people used to have 200 and more wpf pre -patch (me included) and it was ridiciculous

I didn't notice much difference between 116 wpf and 146 wpf, to be honest. What difference are you refering to?

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Re: End this STR madness
« Reply #63 on: September 27, 2011, 07:42:48 am »
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2 or so damage and maybe 0.01 faster swingspeed.
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Re: End this STR madness
« Reply #64 on: September 27, 2011, 07:50:50 am »
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Xant summed that up perfectly. He understands.
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Re: End this STR madness
« Reply #65 on: September 27, 2011, 07:53:01 am »
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However, that's a small difference. Nobody would notice a 0.01 swing speed increase.

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Re: End this STR madness
« Reply #66 on: September 27, 2011, 12:00:25 pm »
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I didn't notice much difference between 116 wpf and 146 wpf, to be honest. What difference are you refering to?

 faster blocking, faster feinting, better speed bonus for swings, some extra damage.

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Re: End this STR madness
« Reply #67 on: September 27, 2011, 12:02:50 pm »
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Wpp doesn't affect blockspeed. (No matter how many times Corrado claims otherwise.)

Manual blocking is instant, regardless of wpp.
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Re: End this STR madness
« Reply #68 on: September 27, 2011, 12:03:10 pm »
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faster blocking

I'm not sure about this, but aren't non-shield blocks instant?

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Re: End this STR madness
« Reply #69 on: September 27, 2011, 12:39:48 pm »
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I don't know how to exactly explan this , but the transaction from feinting to blocking and from switching block directions feels smoother (to me at least) with more wpf.

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Re: End this STR madness
« Reply #70 on: September 27, 2011, 12:43:49 pm »
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I don't know how to exactly explan this , but the transaction from feinting to blocking and from switching block directions feels smoother (to me at least) with more wpf.

That, I agree. I noticed that too. But I think this depends more on the weapon speed than on WPF, for example I can feint a Longsword or a Katana much faster than the Greatswords.

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Re: End this STR madness
« Reply #71 on: September 28, 2011, 04:03:30 am »
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Just give agi/wpf more passive bonuses, so agility actually makes people more, ya know, agile:

-increases maximum turn/spin speed (right now you can do a mid-air lolstab 360 in plate and 3 agi)
-increase block/stagger/'blockstun' recovery speed
-increase feint window
-increase chamber window
-reduce fall damage
-increase jump height/reduce 'jump snare' after landing

Just some ideas. Don't nerf str, just improve agi

This would be optimal, but would probably require more coding than the devs are willing to do. The easy way out is to make wpp needed per wpf increase linear, rather than exponential.

The advantages you get by solely relying on the wpp gained per level versus putting points into weapon mastery are ludicrously unbalanced.
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Re: End this STR madness
« Reply #72 on: September 28, 2011, 04:08:34 am »
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This would be optimal, but would probably require more coding than the devs are willing to do. The easy way out is to make wpp needed per wpf increase linear, rather than exponential.

The advantages you get by solely relying on the wpp gained per level versus putting points into weapon mastery are ludicrously unbalan
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Re: End this STR madness
« Reply #73 on: September 28, 2011, 04:12:02 am »
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Re: End this STR madness
« Reply #74 on: September 28, 2011, 04:15:30 am »
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Indeed, I have returned to wreak havoc upon the unworthy. The times to rejoice are finally upon us.
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