fair cav behavior on battle servers

[Gurnisson]

If it's not a couch within the first 5 seconds of the round GK_Lungy ain't playing.

[Rebelyell]

I never thought that angle nerf to be a good one, i wanted small changes like awlpike usable with shield ... but no they didn't remove damage from the awlpike polestagger shotgun, they removed the "can be used with shield" awesome!!! Wow that was one of your worst decissions ever Balancing team!!! well that and ruining sidesword wait that was not a team but Fassadar ...

In the end we are down from bamboo spear 200 "not anymore sheatable" to Awlpike 165 "not usable anymore with shield" to War Spear "for now still usable with shield and sheatable but wait for it" perhaps when we only can us a shortspear or a freakin disgusting looking fork people will notice that this is heading into the wrong direction and yes it has to do with cav, because if they would see more threads out there and the game would be tougher on you guys then only those who are really into the play style and not only the kill grinders would stay playing this class.

lol are you qq because you cant be moving super anty cav spammy shield tank?
you wasnt abel to use alwpike with shield that weapon was to heavy and what about bambo spear???
not anymore sheatable because 200 lenght of that

thats not bad balancing by team thats making things proper

[Lennu]

Meh, some time ago Lungy got 3 kills during the first 20sec 

That's really not good since most of the players are stuck with the lag at start.
Maybe give a small penalty for everyone who spawns with a horse? For example you can start spawning 20sec later than other players. Not sure what that could lead to, and if it's even possible to do, but at least it would solve one problem 

[kinngrimm]

The simplest but still work intense way to solve the spawn raping and also the stranglers to some extent would be to get all starting points onto a hill like position.
It is rather rare that cav charges uphill ^^, if still so they put themselves in jeopardy bcz they can't move that agile.

lol are you qq because you cant be moving super anty cav spammy shield tank?
you wasnt abel to use alwpike with shield that weapon was to heavy and what about bambo spear???
not anymore sheatable because 200 lenght of that

thats not bad balancing by team thats making things proper

Would you qq if you wouldn't be able to super sneaky cav backstabbing speedy gonzales bumping into crowds getting unhorsed but then polestagger your way through the crowds? Don't give me this qq shit, not from your high horse.

I am pissed because, when i started with this game i was able
- to sheat and use with a shield a 200 length spear
- there had been only a small portion of the cav amount we have now

now
- on full servers on regular bases at least 15 cav on each team, on average more like 20-25
- through the introduction of a new slot system, rebalancing several weapons some anticav builds had been made really difficult to be played =>

=> QQ only for my class - 1h/sh/polearm hybrid:
which needs 2 slots for 1h and sh and 2 slots for polearm the options for 2 slots polearm are mostly crap
Premisses are that it goes with a shield and is sheatable.
The reduction of length for this is from 200 to 150(warspear).

The awlpike needed a nerf it still does in terms of damage and/or speed, but removing the ability that it was usable with a shield ... fail!

EDIT: The later spawn for cav also sounds viable perhaps even more simpel. But 10 seconds late spawn should be enough to start and test that.

[Chasey]

you can also use ashwood pike with a shield kinngrimm

[Idzo]

I don't know about you guys i can't choose who i will fight but i rather fight against 10 cav then 3 archer or 3 shield...

Btw. i think that there wouldn't be problems with cav if more guys would play supporting roles like pikes, long spears and shit like Crafty, Toms or Kriza are playing... We all want to be heroes... All watched too much of conan or robin hood etc....

Imo you cant play crpg and listen music cause you will get couched instantly...

Cav is not problem, problem is that there is no teamwork...

[Prpavi]

I don't know about you guys i can't choose who i will fight but i rather fight against 10 cav then 3 archer or 3 shield...

Btw. i think that there wouldn't be problems with cav if more guys would play supporting roles like pikes, long spears and shit like Crafty, Toms or Kriza are playing... We all want to be heroes... All watched too much of conan or robin hood etc....

Imo you cant play crpg and listen music cause you will get couched instantly...

Cav is not problem, problem is that there is no teamwork...

The elder has spoken!

[Idzo]

The elder has spoken!

e-thug e-suck my e-dick... 

[bosco]

If it's not a couch within the first 5 seconds of the round GK_Lungy ain't playing.

If it's not a couch every 10 seconds on Siege, etc.

[_Tak_]

If it's not a couch every 10 seconds on Siege, etc.

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[Rebelyell]

kingrim you cant have best anticav 1hpolearm  shield and 1h weapon it wuld be op

I remember you runing around with sidesword bambospear huskral round shield andsuper op sidesword, that was easy mode.

[bosco]

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Brightskin ground, haaaaaaaax! 

[kinngrimm]

To reduce the bumping at round start, often it happens when there are narrow passages like bridges.
Perhaps we inf and you cav could come to an agreement which side of the rode we would take by default?
like inf go on the right side and the left site should be free for cav. That wouldn't give you permission to just sprint though there but more room to navigate and perhaps be able to clear from inf a little earlier. What do you think?

you can also use ashwood pike with a shield kinngrimm

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not sheatable, it is not only about comfort this sheatable thing. But in the heat of the action when you switched to your 1h and you would need bcz of incoming cav fast your spear ... but where the fuck is it on the ground. There is the stuff of the dude i killed there is my teammate. damn there is a living foe also and where the fuck is my spear now. If you are done with fighting sometiems you see not too far away another small fight where you would be needed against other inf players. So run there fight ... now where was that spear ... going all teh way back looking into the piles of remains of foes and friends, after a while you find that the freakin spear is nearly completly covered by the damn ground because it is not even terrain ... but you now have your spear back meanwhile you find yourself either as last survivor or in the main group is so far away you cant do jack shit to help anyone for a while. FFS i am a flanker timing is everything, if i loose 5-30 seconds because i need to look for my bloody equipment somewhere on the floor, i could have killed in that time 2 players which then wouldn't ahve been able to kill 2 of my team which clearly can make a difference on the outcome of the game.

But for cav the only difference is how big the weapon is they are facing, and with a 150 warspear tehy get me alot more then with a 165 awlpike, 166 ashwood or 200 bamboo. I clearly remember people don't get close to me if i carry the bamboo. And when i lately played with my clan friends they helped me looking for that bamboo it was rather fast to be found ... still it is a joke to do so

In conclusion:
"not sheatable" not an option

now to "going with shield":
- you have at least 2 different attack directions where you can fail at using the correct (stab) espicially when you are used to just "click once independently of direction"
- you need to block without a shield ... do i really need to go into this argument?
- you can't use your shield to block arrows or couched lances

also here in conclusion:
"not going with shield" not an option .. at all

in conclusion overall:
for 1h/sh/poelarm hybrid like me(but not only for me alone but the role hoblite) who are in the role of going over the flanks the longest thereby best choice combined with the nessary attributes "sheatable" and "going with a shield" polearm is atm the warspear. The warspear is 150. This is in my strong opinion layed out here and in several othere threads and also talked over with admins and devs where they couldn't explain logicly or in terms of playability and need for balancing the fact that the awlpike was removed the "going with shield" attribute.

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kingrim you cant have best anticav 1hpolearm  shield and 1h weapon it wuld be op

i don't and i wouldn't have with what i suggested(changes to Awlpike: less dmg, less speed, but usable with shield or introduce a new spear which is around 170, less dmg and slower then others with same range but is going with shield and sheatable)

I remember you runing around with sidesword bambospear huskral round shield andsuper op sidesword, that was easy mode.

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easy mode ... i had at those times used ONLY Leather Jacket and other light gear like it. 1 missed block 1 hit or arrow in the back and i was dead meat. The sitesword was if not used the piecing attack still glancing a lot on the tincans after the nerf that was one of 5 reasons not using it anymore at all(1. more req, 2. less speed 3. less cut 4. less pierce 5. range reduced). Since then i got better on a regular base back then i was in top of board every 10th map now it is more like either every map or every second map or early in the morning every 5th
I am kind of tired how often people tell me it is only bcz of your OP gear and shit, i just want to play this fucking game and have my peace and quiet and other then that i try to make as good as possible as objectiv calls as possbile as a subjective human being onto the things i experience in this game to perhaps give some insight to those who could perhaps use them, Getting again and again told how OP my gear, abusive my build, how anyoing my playstyle ... do you and other not have to worry about more important stuff then me. Make the same build i have use the same gear i do, pay for the same internet connection i do, have the same problems in life i have then come and judge again .. easy mode my ass. From a cav dude ... really ...

[Lizard_man]

lets say with the end of the euipment/spawn phase of one minute.

That is what i meant to put actually, after the first minute is up that is. Quite a few times i've seen late spawners, and i usually leave them. Nothing worse than spawning with a lance in your face, what gets me is the fuckers that spawn and go directly to the enemies spawn looking for such victims. Dirty play, but not much you can do about it...

[Casimir]

As 2h cav, fighting other cav is both enjoyable and frustrating.

Most of the time lancers will either aim for your horse, or failing that they'll flee.

I focus mostly on bumping down enemies and harassing pikemen / archers.  Gives our melee a much better chance of victory.