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Title: did you call off the war?
Post by: BaleOhay on September 18, 2013, 10:57:54 pm
Did I miss something? NA done fighting or what? The boredom is setting in please help
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Canuck on September 18, 2013, 11:02:28 pm
Normally I'd agree and ask where all the xp is but these castle sieges are terrible and they would probably make anybody want to quit doing strat forever
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: BaleOhay on September 18, 2013, 11:19:12 pm
I would agree but when we were rolling on offense castle and city sieges were awesome. We generally did rather well at them. Stright up open field fights are very boring and predictable (and cause me mass anger from cav)

The fun is hitting a city/Castle and finding the trick of it. We were successful for every place but one.... Chaos your city SUCKS!
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Reinhardt on September 19, 2013, 12:04:26 am
The fun is hitting a city/Castle and finding the trick of it. We were successful for every place but one.... Chaos your city SUCKS!

Or rocks, depending on your perspective..
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Gmnotutoo on September 19, 2013, 12:26:56 am
The Rondel Room literally broke my computer, my graphics card melted a little during that first fight.

Chaos should buy me a new graphics card because the one I use now is inferior.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Dach on September 19, 2013, 02:37:01 am
Did I miss something? NA done fighting or what? The boredom is setting in please help

Yep, it's weird... I got 2x 1600 Occitan army stationned at my castle for nearly 2 days now... no sign of aggression to speak off.  :o

Even tried to kick them out of the castle for a possible reaction... didn't work...  :(
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Keshian on September 19, 2013, 03:02:15 am
Yep, it's weird... I got 2x 1600 Occitan army stationned at my castle for nearly 2 days now... no sign of aggression to speak off.  :o

Even tried to kick them out of the castle for a possible reaction... didn't work...  :(

Imaginary e-peens must be protected at all costs from reality!!!

But yeah, did no one else take notes during our 25-30 castles/city sieges we have done for about 13 different castles and cities?  You have us outnumbered in troops and gold by now it really shouldn't be difficult, we certainly did more with less.  Hell even greasy sage agrees with me - check out my new sig :)  :twisted:

Though I guess occitan has been spending the last 6 months preparing defenses for when all the many many factions not allied with them goes on the offensive against them. lol  7.5 million gold and 80K troops just in the fiefs with 3K armies marching around everywhere, what a waste.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Aderyn on September 19, 2013, 04:07:42 am
Yep, it's weird... I got 2x 1600 Occitan army stationned at my castle for nearly 2 days now... no sign of aggression to speak off.  :o

Even tried to kick them out of the castle for a possible reaction... didn't work...  :(

If you know they are there and you can kick them out- why don't you attack them?

At least it would make this guy happy.

Did I miss something? NA done fighting or what? The boredom is setting in please help

More on the subject tho - If you want them to attack you, why are you stacking 8-11k in each castle?

If you stick with 4500 i'm sure they would attack you since they wont have to throw their troops into the lake.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 19, 2013, 04:28:15 am
I wish every NA faction would lay all their cards on the table in spreadsheet format and we could just #YODO open field battles (about 2 or 3 every night) until all of our gold was gone.

Seriously...it's just pixel crack you fucking crack heads...let's make these battles happen...do you really care how many fiefs you own when this version ends?  Is it that important to you when you join a server for it to say "Lord/Lady bitch tits of some piece of shit fief has joined the server"?
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Inglorious on September 19, 2013, 04:30:34 am
Hell even greasy sage agrees with me - check out my new sig :)  :twisted:

Though I guess occitan has been spending the last 6 months preparing defenses for when all the many many factions not allied with them goes on the offensive against them. lol  7.5 million gold and 80K troops just in the fiefs with 3K armies marching around everywhere, what a waste.

I like the new signature Keshian

As for the stagnicity that is happening over here in LCO, it seems everyone's just working in their lives... Every time I ask arrowaine or bonsai to play, they are sleeping and or playing their new GTA or Total War. Until recently, I even had no time to strategus or pub cRPG.

I do agree though with the OP. This is getting stale. Everyone looking crossed the board at eachother, waiting for the other to make a move.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Socks on September 19, 2013, 04:43:09 am
moar xp
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Dach on September 19, 2013, 04:55:11 am
If you know they are there and you can kick them out- why don't you attack them?

At least it would make this guy happy.

More on the subject tho - If you want them to attack you, why are you stacking 8-11k in each castle?

If you stick with 4500 i'm sure they would attack you since they wont have to throw their troops into the lake.

Answer to both questions... because I only have 3k troops in my castle...  :rolleyes: :twisted:
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Aderyn on September 19, 2013, 05:35:30 am
Answer to both questions... because I only have 3k troops in my castle...  :rolleyes: :twisted:

That is correct, but your faction does not . It's not that hard to march an army over there and attack them while they are kicked out.   :rolleyes: :twisted:
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on September 19, 2013, 05:38:18 am
If you're distressed by the lack of XP and strat battle fun-times, you could certainly attack field armies or fiefs. At least de-garrisoning your cities would be nice as well. We've gotten tired of throwing ourselves against castle walls and we do not have an obligation to give you castle defenses. You took all the tickets out of the last 2 villages that you had so you could defend your castles. Ya'll can rot in there if you would like, or you could poke your heads out for a spell.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: arowaine on September 19, 2013, 06:47:28 am
Did I miss something? NA done fighting or what? The boredom is setting in please help

you are welcome to meet us in the open field so far! we still at war as far as i know
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Keshian on September 19, 2013, 06:49:25 am
If you're distressed by the lack of XP and strat battle fun-times, you could certainly attack field armies or fiefs. At least de-garrisoning your cities would be nice as well. We've gotten tired of throwing ourselves against castle walls and we do not have an obligation to give you castle defenses. You took all the tickets out of the last 2 villages that you had so you could defend your castles. Ya'll can rot in there if you would like, or you could poke your heads out for a spell.

Lol, no worries, we get it.  You suck at sieges compared to us when we attacked castles/cities and need to crutch hard on pikes and heavy cav to do well.  Sour grapes mentality - you sucka t soemthing so you tell everyone you are not doing it because of the enemy, and not just because you are that bad.  2 sieges of a castle that has had less than 5K troops the entire time and then give up lol, because its 3K garrison too much.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Aderyn on September 19, 2013, 06:53:51 am
Lol, no worries, we get it.  You suck at sieges compared to us when we attacked castles/cities and need to crutch hard on pikes and heavy cav to do well.  Sour grapes mentality - you sucka t soemthing so you tell everyone you are not doing it because of the enemy, and not just because you are that bad.  2 sieges of a castle that has had less than 5K troops the entire time and then give up lol, because its 3K garrison too much.

You have 8-11k in ALL your castles apart from one. Or are you saying you are only willing to let them siege 1 castle at a time? Are you saying you are only willing to give up poor fallen out in ismirala castle? Nice protectors you are leaving them out in the cold like that.

edit: Actually saw you took out some troops from ichamur to stack in your other cities. That said probably because you have like 7-8 recruiters in there and don't think hosp will take it from you. Either way, it was to stack the other castles harder.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Matey on September 19, 2013, 06:55:36 am
You have 8-11k in ALL your castles apart from one. Or are you saying you are only willing to let them siege 1 castle at a time? Are you saying you are only willing to give up poor fallen out in ismirala castle? Nice protectors you are leaving them out in the cold like that.

We will happily lower our garrisons down in any fief upon request. If anyone has a fief of ours they wish to attack... contact Kesh or me and we shall see to reducing the garrison to 4500 troops so that a 1500 man army can lay siege and all can enjoy xp.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Aderyn on September 19, 2013, 06:57:00 am
We will happily lower our garrisons down in any fief upon request. If anyone has a fief of ours they wish to attack... contact Kesh or me and we shall see to reducing the garrison to 4500 troops so that a 1500 man army can lay siege and all can enjoy xp.

Or you lower them so they can attack at the time of their choosing and you will actually get attacked! And get all ze xp!
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on September 19, 2013, 07:01:33 am
I really hate you people. I don't know if you're okay people in real life but to come online after going to school for four hours and working for 8 hours and seeing shit posted like "why aren't you attacking us?! xD" while your enemy is offering you fair field fights makes you the worst type of flavorless cum-breathing nerd that dwells in the basements of this Earth. Shut the hell up you fucks and do something other than inanely babble about how people won'tattack your castles. Your lax responsibilities in life and your disgusting sperg tunnel vision make you forget that if people don't want to attack your castles they don't have to, and some people don't give a shit about your opinion of whether or not they are good at a shitty version of internet horses Stratego.

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Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: BaleOhay on September 19, 2013, 01:19:24 pm
really can not win in this community... When we were marching and (yes taking castles and cities) we were harassed for being war mongering assholes.. Now that a very large portion of the map is allied we choose defense and get harassed for it as well.

In the tkov/LCO war how many times did LCO come out and fight in the open field? You guys are the aggressors... Try being aggressive! How the hell do you think we have all these castles and cities?

As Matey said if you want to attack somewhere we can arrange to have the troops in it lowered so you can attack with a decent amount of troops. We offer that and then you complain that we are doing that to our benefit! Really? It would be to the benefit of the community since we would force everything into prime time.

Ohay
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Keshian on September 19, 2013, 01:37:22 pm
really can not win in this community... When we were marching and (yes taking castles and cities) we were harassed for being war mongering assholes.. Now that a very large portion of the map is allied we choose defense and get harassed for it as well.

In the tkov/LCO war how many times did LCO come out and fight in the open field? You guys are the aggressors... Try being aggressive! How the hell do you think we have all these castles and cities?

As Matey said if you want to attack somewhere we can arrange to have the troops in it lowered so you can attack with a decent amount of troops. We offer that and then you complain that we are doing that to our benefit! Really? It would be to the benefit of the community since we would force everything into prime time.

Ohay

Exactly, we repeatedly offer these things, hell remnant has been offering open field battle to chaos repeatedly, but somehow we are the devil for not doing exactly what people like sandy, daruvian and aderyn want us to do.  We had to do 6-8 sieges to take a lot of these castles and cities, which we later sold or still retain and they were fun and challenging.  Weird that anything that isnt incredibly easy like running over medium, armored opponent while riding around in full plate on a heavily armored horse or stabbing from 30 feet away with a pike is too much and you just give up.  Its not like most of the cities/castles we attacked havent been brutal and difficult as attackers (hell just talk to remnant and try derchios even once, they also have offered to lower troops).

We cant just leave 6K troops ona  fief owner indefinitely for 4 months and bleed millions of gold because you might attack that one fief - we already tried that after we lost 50K troops attacking fidlgb and chaos and saw 4-5 months of almost no attacks to the point where now our castles and cities have very slowly built up to 10K troops.  Your alliance has 200k+ troops and is bigger than velucan empire ever was, its not like you have to ever worry about running out.  hell even VE had twice your balls and attacked defensible fiefs as many as 12-13 times.  I guess imaginary e-peen using the easiest gear setups is the only way you can play this game - tactics and strategy dont matter.

P.S.  i don't actually include hospitallers in that estimation - they put in the effort and deservedly should have won eventually except their bigger ally didn't even do one attack the entire month they were attacking - thus freeing us to easily reinforce the city with 7-8 more armies.  And i dont buy the inactive thing lancer - your S&D is used up daily for all your desert fiefs  (we were considering grabbing some), never more than a few hundred, which says the fief owners are very very active when it comes to trading simulator, it takes far less effort to initiate one attack than to have 15-16 guys checking strategus daily to buy/sell their S&D.  Its one of the reasons ve (and i agreed with their viewpoint) never wanted occitan to come back to na - they buy fiefs and turtle and never do anything, very similar to what their vassal lords did for multiple strategi - more focused on carebearing with most of the map than actually playing a war simulator and then patting each other on the back over beating up someone they outnumber 10:1.  I miss people that actually play war games for challenges like tactics and strategy.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Goretooth on September 19, 2013, 01:59:36 pm
Exactly, we repeatedly offer these things, hell remnant has been offering open field battle to chaos repeatedly, but somehow we are the devil for not doing exactly what people like sandy, daruvian and aderyn want us to do.  We had to do 6-8 sieges to take a lot of these castles and cities, which we later sold or still retain and they were fun and challenging.  Weird that anything that isnt incredibly easy like running over medium, armored opponent while riding around in full plate on a heavily armored horse or stabbing from 30 feet away with a pike is too much and you just give up.  Its not like most of the cities/castles we attacked havent been brutal and difficult as attackers (hell just talk to remnant and try derchios even once, they also have offered to lower troops).

We cant just leave 6K troops ona  fief owner indefinitely for 4 months and bleed millions of gold because you might attack that one fief - we already tried that after we lost 50K troops attacking fidlgb and chaos and saw 4-5 months of almost no attacks to the point where now our castles and cities have very slowly built up to 10K troops.  Your alliance has 200k+ troops and is bigger than velucan empire ever was, its not like you have to ever worry about running out.  hell even VE had twice your balls and attacked defensible fiefs as many as 12-13 times.  I guess imaginary e-peen using the easiest gear setups is the only way you can play this game - tactics and strategy dont matter.
Easiest gear setups? kesh take a break from the game once in awhile cause it's warping your mind to believe whatever you want.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Keshian on September 19, 2013, 02:02:20 pm
Easiest gear setups? kesh take a break from the game once in awhile cause it's warping your mind to believe whatever you want.

lol you posted that as i was still finishing what i wrote.  Didnt include you guys.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Goretooth on September 19, 2013, 02:05:37 pm
lol you posted that as i was still finishing what i wrote.  Didnt include you guys.
The last battle I fought against FCC you guys put siege towers on your spawn flags.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: MURDERTRON on September 19, 2013, 02:14:22 pm
I really hate you people.

Racist.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on September 19, 2013, 03:04:39 pm
Exactly, we repeatedly offer these things, hell remnant has been offering open field battle to chaos repeatedly, but somehow we are the devil for not doing exactly what people like sandy, daruvian and aderyn want us to do.  We had to do 6-8 sieges to take a lot of these castles and cities, which we later sold or still retain and they were fun and challenging.  Weird that anything that isnt incredibly easy like running over medium, armored opponent while riding around in full plate on a heavily armored horse or stabbing from 30 feet away with a pike is too much and you just give up.  Its not like most of the cities/castles we attacked havent been brutal and difficult as attackers (hell just talk to remnant and try derchios even once, they also have offered to lower troops).

We cant just leave 6K troops ona  fief owner indefinitely for 4 months and bleed millions of gold because you might attack that one fief - we already tried that after we lost 50K troops attacking fidlgb and chaos and saw 4-5 months of almost no attacks to the point where now our castles and cities have very slowly built up to 10K troops.  Your alliance has 200k+ troops and is bigger than velucan empire ever was, its not like you have to ever worry about running out.  hell even VE had twice your balls and attacked defensible fiefs as many as 12-13 times.  I guess imaginary e-peen using the easiest gear setups is the only way you can play this game - tactics and strategy dont matter.

P.S.  i don't actually include hospitallers in that estimation - they put in the effort and deservedly should have won eventually except their bigger ally didn't even do one attack the entire month they were attacking - thus freeing us to easily reinforce the city with 7-8 more armies.  And i dont buy the inactive thing lancer - your S&D is used up daily for all your desert fiefs  (we were considering grabbing some), never more than a few hundred, which says the fief owners are very very active when it comes to trading simulator, it takes far less effort to initiate one attack than to have 15-16 guys checking strategus daily to buy/sell their S&D.  Its one of the reasons ve (and i agreed with their viewpoint) never wanted occitan to come back to na - they buy fiefs and turtle and never do anything, very similar to what their vassal lords did for multiple strategi - more focused on carebearing with most of the map than actually playing a war simulator and then patting each other on the back over beating up someone they outnumber 10:1.  I miss people that actually play war games for challenges like tactics and strategy.

Implying I'm going to read all that shitaganda. Let me predict and tl;dr it for anyone else not inclined to read it. "Everything you just said is wrong! Everything I'm about to say is right! You guys have it easy! We have it hard! You're pussies! Now give a shit about my opinion and attack us or are you are my old friends! XD"

Betcha 5 bucks I nailed it. It's the same format as every Keshpost (slang for shitpost) ever.

Edit: but really Keshian do you expect me to come home after 12 hours out of my house, get a bite to eat, sit down at my PC and give a single fuck about some presumably greasy nerd hundreds of miles away talking about how his group of nerds is more brave at internet video games? Answer me that question before you go writing three more paragraphs. Protip: people don't give a fuck, and they're even less inclined to give a fuck when it's your empathy-less nerd ass repeatedly shitposting in their direction.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Turboflex on September 19, 2013, 03:25:24 pm
The last battle I fought against FCC you guys put siege towers on your spawn flags.

Every FCC city inventory I  have seen recently is all plate + great mauls. Who the hell wants to fight that?
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Goretooth on September 19, 2013, 03:31:41 pm
Every FCC city inventory I  have seen recently is all plate + great mauls. Who the hell wants to fight that?
lol oh yeah forgot about that. Well rather have just got use to them just using plate, mauls, and pikes.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: MURDERTRON on September 19, 2013, 03:46:39 pm

Edit: but really Keshian do you expect me to come home after 12 hours out of my house, get a bite to eat, sit down at my PC and give a single fuck about some presumably greasy nerd hundreds of miles away talking about how his group of nerds is more brave at internet video games? Answer me that question before you go writing three more paragraphs. Protip: people don't give a fuck, and they're even less inclined to give a fuck when it's your empathy-less nerd ass repeatedly shitposting in their direction.

Do people say "12 hours out of my house"?  Is that even a thing?  I can't tell if you have you're a cat-lady or you have Amanda Berry locked up in your basement.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: BaleOhay on September 19, 2013, 05:43:01 pm
Everyone at this point has plate and great mauls. They had the same equipment when we stormed the walls. So I do not know why that wpuld be a deterant, the only city I have seen that I do not think can be captured is chaos owned. Everything else may be difficult but def possible and some are not that hard at all. If everything was simple it would cease being fun.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 19, 2013, 06:06:19 pm
^Is either forgetting or never fought over Rindyar Castle...that's one castle I wouldn't waste my time with. 
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Matey on September 19, 2013, 06:19:44 pm
^Is either forgetting or never fought over Rindyar Castle...that's one castle I wouldn't waste my time with.

He did say City... not Castle :D I would also like to mention we launched a lot of attacks on Dhirim before we gave up. I agree that attacking over and over can get stale (been there done that) but just as daru gives no shits about how  we want him to attack us... we also give no shits about him wanting us to fight him "fairly in the open field". If you guys want to be on the defensive then why did you launch a campaign against our lands? Plus.. why would we give a shit about our old villages? didn't you guys just reset the PP in all of them anyways? sounds like useless land to me.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Jack1 on September 19, 2013, 06:22:21 pm
He did say City... not Castle :D I would also like to mention we launched a lot of attacks on Dhirim before we gave up. I agree that attacking over and over can get stale (been there done that) but just as daru gives no shits about how  we want him to attack us... we also give no shits about him wanting us to fight him "fairly in the open field". If you guys want to be on the defensive then why did you launch a campaign against our lands? Plus.. why would we give a shit about our old villages? didn't you guys just reset the PP in all of them anyways? sounds like useless land to me.

In ayyike I didn't reset anything, I only loomed flamberges with the existing points.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Artyem on September 19, 2013, 06:26:08 pm
In ayyike I didn't reset anything, I only loomed flamberges with the existing points.

Sending someone over to take it off your hands, 1 sec.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on September 19, 2013, 06:27:34 pm
He did say City... not Castle :D I would also like to mention we launched a lot of attacks on Dhirim before we gave up. I agree that attacking over and over can get stale (been there done that) but just as daru gives no shits about how  we want him to attack us... we also give no shits about him wanting us to fight him "fairly in the open field". If you guys want to be on the defensive then why did you launch a campaign against our lands? Plus.. why would we give a shit about our old villages? didn't you guys just reset the PP in all of them anyways? sounds like useless land to me.

Matey, THE REALM OF THE GOBBLIN KING has no interest in fighting FCC in the field right now. Get your facts straight  :wink:

Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: MURDERTRON on September 19, 2013, 06:29:41 pm
^Is either forgetting or never fought over Rindyar Castle...that's one castle I wouldn't waste my time with.

It was pretty bad.  So far uphill that catapult shots are hard to make, only like 3 places that siege ladders will reach.  You're welcome Sandy.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on September 19, 2013, 06:32:16 pm
It was pretty bad.  So far uphill that catapult shots are hard to make, only like 3 places that siege ladders will reach.  You're welcome Sandy.

Let it be noted that the only people who really fought over Rindyar were Occitan... And they did one attack and quit.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Matey on September 19, 2013, 06:34:27 pm

Edit: but really Keshian do you expect me to come home after 12 hours out of my house, get a bite to eat, sit down at my PC and give a single fuck about some presumably greasy nerd hundreds of miles away talking about how his group of nerds is more brave at internet video games? Answer me that question before you go writing three more paragraphs. Protip: people don't give a fuck, and they're even less inclined to give a fuck when it's your empathy-less nerd ass repeatedly shitposting in their direction.

To summarize... "I am not having fun fighting FCC"
The solution: Fight someone who it is fun to fight.
Added Bonus: With a few less enemies FCC could afford to expend more troops with riskier endeavours!
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 19, 2013, 06:37:28 pm
Let it be noted that the only people who really fought over Rindyar were Occitan... And they did one attack and quit.

I was on the attacking side, not following up the first attack was one of the wisest moves this strat.  And I've been in some pretty terrible castle assaults.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on September 19, 2013, 06:53:12 pm
Too bad villages are apparently useless and are not worth the effort of recapture.

So much for the mod.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 19, 2013, 07:23:54 pm
My idea to improve that, would be that you need "food" to support troops/population of a fief.  You can also assign food from one fief, to be designated for another.  That way villages would actually be extremely important, and you could essentially besiege castles/cities and force the people to come out (like in reality). 

Also still not sure if Aldo was being serious or not (probably semi-serious at least) with your quote.  Since he's always been my favorite couching target, I'll assume he loves me as well and was only jesting.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Matey on September 19, 2013, 07:26:19 pm
Too bad villages are apparently useless and are not worth the effort of recapture.

So much for the mod.

well.. villages get 1PP a day, so it takes awhile to get them decent. if you respec the PP you lose 50% of total pp but can reallocate the remaining 50%. If you run around capping enemy villages and respeccing them you can easily turn them into completely useless fiefs. Also, since castles and towns get way more PP per day you can just build those up to be amazing in terms of gear production and trade value. Since this strat has been going on for so damn long... we can easily thrive with only our castles and towns. According to the Market Size pie graph.. we are apparently the biggest market even without any villages... though I don't know how it measures market size. http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusfieflist



p.s.


Also still not sure if Aldo was being serious or not (probably semi-serious at least) with your quote.  Since he's always been my favorite couching target, I'll assume he loves me as well and was only jesting.
Pretty sure he is 100% serious. Ban horses.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 19, 2013, 07:27:56 pm
well.. villages get 1PP a day, so it takes awhile to get them decent. if you respec the PP you lose 50% of total pp but can reallocate the remaining 50%. If you run around capping enemy villages and respeccing them you can easily turn them into completely useless fiefs. Also, since castles and towns get way more PP per day you can just build those up to be amazing in terms of gear production and trade value. Since this strat has been going on for so damn long... we can easily thrive with only our castles and towns. According to the Market Size pie graph.. we are apparently the biggest market even without any villages... though I don't know how it measures market size. http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusfieflist

Market is your S/D inside all fiefs.

At this point, any castle/city that isn't self sufficient is mismanaged.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 19, 2013, 07:27:59 pm
Pretty sure market category is just the current S&D a fief has. 

And I'm going to choose to believe Aldo loves me, even if the evidence points in the other direction.  It's really hard to leech on foot, I usually end up staying alive anywhere from 70-100% of the round timer (which is a bad way to leech).  At least on cavalry if I am playing another game at the same time I can just make a reckless charge into the enemy and die pretty early on (and still sometimes help our team win, or even get valor even if I die before 50% of the round is over).

That's really the only reason I've stayed on a horse for so long  :oops:
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Duster on September 19, 2013, 08:09:23 pm

In the tkov/LCO war how many times did LCO come out and fight in the open field?


Literally the whole war, they re-took villages over and over again, and they actually defended their villages when they had the resources to.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on September 19, 2013, 08:17:12 pm
We'll take a week or two more to chill and bask in your ire and then continue throwing ourselves against your castle walls. The biggest problem is the large amount of skilled neutral mercenaries that want to play for the winning side. When we were repeatedly netting victories against villages and field armies, we had a large portion of them. Attacking a castle nets us none of them. I do not blame them in the slightest, few people wish to walk up ladders to their doom for 70 minutes.

I can not speak for Occitan or LL or their plans.

If it makes you too upset that we're waiting a week or two more to cleanse our pallets of the disgusting taste of assaulting stone, you are welcome to attack Occitan field armies in the area, or any number of villages. I doubt you'll do that, though.

Oh, and we've got an interesting situation in the newly independent HoC with 21k troops in Almerra castle. If they decide to go active on strat we'd likely be the first target, occupying Halmar and what-not. We're forced to maintain a large defensive force at home. Can't afford the luxury of throwing our considerable force numbering 1/6th of yours at you anymore.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Adoptagoat on September 19, 2013, 09:11:22 pm
Literally the whole war, they re-took villages over and over again, and they actually defended their villages when they had the resources to.

This is actually true...up to a point.  Adding "when they had resources to" is a cop out.  They never had less than 10k+ in their castles(combined), and definitely gave up on their villages for a couple months at a time, a couple of times.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: BaleOhay on September 19, 2013, 09:40:16 pm
Lucky for you sandy your troops only make up 10% of the forces against us.. otherwise Kesh would be sitting in your castle with his feet up on your coffee table
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 19, 2013, 09:59:07 pm
10% of what forces?  Who's even attacking right now (in general)?

Please yolo @ Rindyar Castle, pretty please...I want to be on the defending side of a hard as fuck castle, been in too many terrible assaults lately.  This will also give FCC the chance to prove how superior of a faction they are.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Gmnotutoo on September 19, 2013, 10:12:15 pm
Who do you hate more, Kesh or Arowaine? That is what I believe Strat 4.0 has been reduced too and the majority of active strat clans are on whatever side of the two mega-alliance war.

If you want strat to be good again both sides need to end the war, break up with their strat allies, bury the internet grudges, and let people go their separate ways. Troop stacking will go down and the number of battles per-day will rise. I guarantee it will fix the dilemma we have now. It is probably just easier to reset it though. (Kesh, if you +1 this then you actually better commit to doing it.)

To: FIDLGB, Astralis, FPF, Golden Apple Corps, Dracul and their vassals Raven I mean allies, Ascalon clan, and of course BIRD CLAN. You guys are doing it right, stay independent and free.
*Anders was left off this list for being utterly boring in strat while perpetuating the KDR whore mentality with the NA losses thread for his own profit.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 19, 2013, 10:22:10 pm
I never hated Kesh or FCC...there were legitimately two people in Hospi who "hated" FCC and/or Kesh, that wanted to hold a grudge from the previous strat iterations there is presently only one (who is pretty inactive).  There were some people who felt it would be hard to trust FCC after past relations, but I refuse to believe that there are many people out there who hate people over a video game.

I even tried working with Kesh at the beginning to fuck over KUTT since they were trying to be badasses with us and not agree to good terms on transferring of a castle. 

I honestly think it's less people "hating" one side or the other, and more about self preservation (or holding grudges against past enemies).  I think huge alliances (or at least favoritism) is inevitable...no clue how you avoid that.

Maybe devs can just "make" a couple strat battles every night so we can still get our fix (I really don't care about who owns what pixel crack...I just want to fight in large organized battles). 
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Gmnotutoo on September 19, 2013, 10:29:54 pm
I never hated Kesh or FCC...there were legitimately two people in Hospi who "hated" FCC and/or Kesh, that wanted to hold a grudge from the previous strat iterations there is presently only one (who is pretty inactive).  There were some people who felt it would be hard to trust FCC after past relations, but I refuse to believe that there are many people out there who hate people over a video game.

I even tried working with Kesh at the beginning to fuck over KUTT since they were trying to be badasses with us and not agree to good terms on transferring of a castle. 

I honestly think it's less people "hating" one side or the other, and more about self preservation (or holding grudges against past enemies).  I think huge alliances (or at least favoritism) is inevitable...no clue how you avoid that.

Maybe devs can just "make" a couple strat battles every night so we can still get our fix (I really don't care about who owns what pixel crack...I just want to fight in large organized battles).

Hatred for people over video games is a lot more common than you think, but I can easily replace that word with Dislike. I chose not to because the diplomacy section is filled with examples to justify my claim. Individuals may not harbor these feelings, but that is the general impression I get from each side.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Canuck on September 19, 2013, 11:01:56 pm
To: FIDLGB, Astralis, FPF, Golden Apple Corps, Dracul, Ascalon clan, and of course BIRD CLAN. You guys are doing it right, stay independent and free.
*Anders was left off this list for being utterly boring in strat while perpetuating the KDR whore mentality with the NA losses thread for his own profit.

Doing it right as in doing nothing just like everybody else. With the exception of the FPF
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 19, 2013, 11:08:14 pm
To: FIDLGB, Astralis, FPF, Golden Apple Corps, Dracul, Ascalon clan, and of course BIRD CLAN. You guys are doing it right, stay independent and free.
*Anders was left off this list for being utterly boring in strat while perpetuating the KDR whore mentality with the NA losses thread for his own profit.

Wait, what? I'm more interesting than Astralis. They like fought 3 battles and then curb stomped some chinese?

Also, on that list, only Ascalon, FPF, could be counted as true neutral.
(Am unsure over Dracul as they did just have their Acre War)

Also, cause of this, I'm going Pirate. Screw Ninja's.
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Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: ShiftKnife on September 19, 2013, 11:26:13 pm
This just in...

FCC v. Occitan struggle has ended in nuclear conflict.

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Nuclear winter is projected to last from now til' the end of this strat. That's all folks.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Gmnotutoo on September 19, 2013, 11:43:06 pm
Wait, what? I'm more interesting than Astralis. They like fought 3 battles and then curb stomped some chinese?

Also, on that list, only Ascalon, FPF, could be counted as true neutral.
(Am unsure over Dracul as they did just have their Acre War)

Also, cause of this, I'm going Pirate. Screw Ninja's.
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I'm giving admiration to people who are somewhat actually neutral. You are Neutral, but I'm not giving you admiration. I didn't say any of these other clans are or are not interesting, that isn't my point.

If you sort the battle page Astralis has around 50, you have 10 and out of those ten how many of those were you paid to fight as opposed to the doing of your own will? I can see through your business scheme, I have to admit it is brilliant. Make a thread and post KDR to get peoples attention, remind them that they lost a bunch of troops and there you are with a nice stack ready to sell to whoever wants it. I recognize intelligence and this is a great idea, but I need someone to have fun with so I'm testing to see if you are a good target.

Pirates are not on my priority list ironically, I'm much more intolerant of other weaboos. So if you do go that route I'm going to have to put you on hold, because if I'm going to attack a Pirate its going to be the Pirate Scum King. (matey the fcc nerd)

And the KDR thing? Yeah it isn't my cup of tea. I'll hire friends, themed characters, and people who enjoy having fun. I don't lead, I let people act. With me it is all about having fun and I can honestly say I don't care about losing or winning.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 19, 2013, 11:45:37 pm
Well it would be pretty hard to lead when you're running along the map edge

HI-OOO!!!!! (not sure how you spell that expression). 

And I'm off folks, I'll be back at the same bat time/channel tomorrow.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: BaleOhay on September 20, 2013, 12:11:12 am
10% of what forces?  Who's even attacking right now (in general)?

Please yolo @ Rindyar Castle, pretty please...I want to be on the defending side of a hard as fuck castle, been in too many terrible assaults lately.  This will also give FCC the chance to prove how superior of a faction they are.

Our record speaks for itself at this point. Name a faction on either side who can say they have taken as many fortified places as us?
Nova Reyvadin
Nova Curaw
New Derchios Castle
New Senuzgda Castle
New Kelredan Castle
New Sungetche Castle.. least i think we took this one by force. Can not remember
New Ichamur
New Ahmerrad ** would have been ours but not going into that again


I am probably forgetting some. I do not think we have anything left to prove on the siege front. Your entire alliance could not produce a list like that.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Goretooth on September 20, 2013, 12:28:30 am
Yeah we don't make siege towers over spawns points which fcc did my last strat battle with fcc. Add that to the list of exploits fcc lives to use to win.  Doubt any na strat has used half as many exploits as fcc has.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: MURDERTRON on September 20, 2013, 12:35:08 am
Yeah we don't make siege towers over spawns points which fcc did my last strat battle with fcc. Add that to the list of exploits fcc lives to use to win.  Doubt any na strat has used half as many exploits as fcc has.

Yeah, those siege towers or whatever really prevented the flag cap that was never going to happen.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Goretooth on September 20, 2013, 12:37:28 am
Yeah, those siege towers or whatever really prevented the flag cap that was never going to happen.
why put them  on top of your spawn flags?
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: BaleOhay on September 20, 2013, 01:20:16 am
decided to edit this one because goretooth's arguments really are not worth it
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on September 20, 2013, 01:27:35 am
Our record speaks for itself at this point. Name a faction on either side who can say they have taken as many fortified places as us?
Nova Reyvadin
Nova Curaw
New Derchios Castle
New Senuzgda Castle
New Kelredan Castle
New Sungetche Castle.. least i think we took this one by force. Can not remember
New Ichamur
New Ahmerrad ** would have been ours but not going into that again


I am probably forgetting some. I do not think we have anything left to prove on the siege front. Your entire alliance could not produce a list like that.

You are better than us at taking fortified locations. You've got great organization and your mercenary roster is very conducive to winning sieges set upon a fortified location. We performed very well in field and village battles because of our mercenary roster. We've got a ton of both agi and str polearms and plain-jane shielders with a few very skilled cavalry players mixed in. You've got a good deal of ranged players and two-handed users. We were extremely victorious in the village/field attacks we did, capping flags more than once in a glorious fashion and burning the tickets out when we did not. We blow cocks at attacking fortified locations in comparison.

I am not claiming that either force is superior outside of the situation in which it performs best. Forgive us if we need a bit of time to recuperate our desire to be mauled and arbalested to hell and back. We'll get back to attacking you, but like I said, if you are dying of thirst for blood, attack an LCO-occupied village or even one of our empty ones. If you can survive a week or two we'll get right back to charging your stone walls.

Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: BaleOhay on September 20, 2013, 01:38:16 am
You are better than us at taking fortified locations. You've got great organization and your mercenary roster is very conducive to winning sieges set upon a fortified location. We performed very well in field and village battles because of our mercenary roster. We've got a ton of both agi and str polearms and plain-jane shielders with a few very skilled cavalry players mixed in. You've got a good deal of ranged players and two-handed users. We were extremely victorious in the village/field attacks we did, capping flags more than once in a glorious fashion and burning the tickets out when we did not. We blow cocks at attacking fortified locations in comparison.

I am not claiming that either force is superior outside of the situation in which it performs best. Forgive us if we need a bit of time to recuperate our desire to be mauled and arbalested to hell and back. We'll get back to attacking you, but like I said, if you are dying of thirst for blood, attack an LCO-occupied village or even one of our empty ones. If you can survive a week or two we'll get right back to charging your stone walls.

Any further posts I make in this thread can be written-off as a vaguely autistic need to reply to statements which I interpret as "COME AT US OMG PUSSIES WE DID THIS LIKE 6 TIMES WHY CANT YOU?"

I will agree with most of that honestly. Fighting you guys in the open field I do not really mind.. it is the tons of cav that come with it I can do without. Fcc used to be more well rounded but the cav portion of our group faded away when huey left and have not really been the same since. We can still field a few decent guys but not nearly the amount needed in a pitched open field fight.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on September 20, 2013, 01:40:46 am
I will agree with most of that honestly. Fighting you guys in the open field I do not really mind.. it is the tons of cav that come with it I can do without. Fcc used to be more well rounded but the cav portion of our group faded away when huey left and have not really been the same since. We can still field a few decent guys but not nearly the amount needed in a pitched open field fight.

To me it seems like you guys have more cavalry than us, but we have a few great cavalry players (huseby coming to mind first, I never see that dude get a bad bump in) that don't fuck our team over while you have more cavalry that tends to teambump much more. I find it surprising the amount of times I have been too brave and find myself engaging 3v1 and enemy cavalry bumps 2 of them and gets me a safe retreat or even 3 kills. Much more important than that though is our devastating amount of long polearms, mostly pikes. You have a significant amount of cavalry over us, but it will only detriment you when our wall of poke-sticks is impenetrable.

Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Relit on September 20, 2013, 02:04:54 am
To: FIDLGB, Astralis, FPF, Golden Apple Corps, Dracul, Ascalon clan, and of course BIRD CLAN. You guys are doing it right, stay independent and free.
*Anders was left off this list for being utterly boring in strat while perpetuating the KDR whore mentality with the NA losses thread for his own profit.

Forgot us, Ravens!
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: BaleOhay on September 20, 2013, 02:15:13 am
To me it seems like you guys have more cavalry than us, but we have a few great cavalry players (huseby coming to mind first, I never see that dude get a bad bump in) that don't fuck our team over while you have more cavalry that tends to teambump much more. I find it surprising the amount of times I have been too brave and find myself engaging 3v1 and enemy cavalry bumps 2 of them and gets me a safe retreat or even 3 kills. Much more important than that though is our devastating amount of long polearms, mostly pikes. You have a significant amount of cavalry over us, but it will only detriment you when our wall of poke-sticks is impenetrable.

Odd I never feel like we have a lot of cav... but yes I will also agree ours tend to care more about getting kills instead of who they knock over to get them. I also feel that the reason we have less cav is due to the walls of pikes.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on September 20, 2013, 02:44:56 am
Odd I never feel like we have a lot of cav... but yes I will also agree ours tend to care more about getting kills instead of who they knock over to get them. I also feel that the reason we have less cav is due to the walls of pikes.

We tend to have 4-5 cav and you'll have around 7-9 in my estimation at the start of an open field battle, but by the end I'm confident half of them will not be playing cavalry anymore due frustration. Seems like at least a couple of your cavalry are also dedicated anti-engineers, taking little part in the combat.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Aderyn on September 20, 2013, 02:50:05 am
oh geeee

Acting all big and tough about past victories in castles taken when it's been a small clan against the grand alliance of FCC (several clans) AND other clans such as tkov, raven etc. Must be really difficult kicking someone when they are on the ground surrounded by your other friends who have already restrained them and kicked them for half an hour.  douchebag

Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Matey on September 20, 2013, 02:57:31 am
oh geeee

Acting all big and tough about past victories in castles taken when it's been a small clan against the grand alliance of FCC (several clans) AND other clans such as tkov, raven etc. Must be really difficult kicking someone when they are on the ground surrounded by your other friends who have already restrained them and kicked them for half an hour.  douchebag

Whoa.. We are allied to Ravens and TKoV? I'll be... Ravens... what the fuck were you doing attacking us when you were allied to us? and TKoV how come you keep doing your own thing instead of attacking our enemies? You guys are terrible allies.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Gmnotutoo on September 20, 2013, 03:07:00 am
Forgot us, Ravens!

You are included under Dracul, because you're a vassal for the Law. But if you really must have your solidarity I'll specify.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on September 20, 2013, 03:07:44 am
Whoa.. We are allied to Ravens and TKoV? I'll be... Ravens... what the fuck were you doing attacking us when you were allied to us? and TKoV how come you keep doing your own thing instead of attacking our enemies? You guys are terrible allies.

He means that you had significant assistance from those groups when you took Ichamur, Sungetche, Curaw, Reyvadin. The attacks on Derchios and Senuzgda did not have assistance from those groups. He's not saying that you are currently allied with those factions.

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Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: BaleOhay on September 20, 2013, 03:33:07 am
What has tkov done for us this strat exactly,that helped us take any of those? if your logic holds true and it was simple numbers and more allies that won us those places, what the hell is your excuse for not taking jack shit in this current war?
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Jack1 on September 20, 2013, 03:37:28 am
What has tkov done for is this strat exactly that helped us take any of those? if your logic holds true and it was simple numbers and more allies that won us those places, what the hell is your excuse for not taking jack shit in this current war?

we actually own a few of your villages so.... we do own "Jack1 Shit"
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: BaleOhay on September 20, 2013, 03:39:28 am
You be proud of taking those. good job..

notice how I did not bother listing the little fiefs we took this strat
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Krosis on September 20, 2013, 04:36:11 am
Guys this is a game, and what makes it fun is strat.

You guys have the troops, gold, and fiefs to play this damn game, use them ffs.

Where are we getting at by just sitting in fiefs/castles?

Are you guys actually trying to win strat? To get bragging rights for next strat? I don't get it. Just use your shit, no one remembers what happened last strat.. I will however remember this one as a boring one,and if it continues like this then I won't get to see the next one.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on September 20, 2013, 04:50:30 am
To: FIDLGB, Astralis, FPF, Golden Apple Corps, Dracul and their vassals Raven I mean allies, Ascalon clan, and of course BIRD CLAN. You guys are doing it right, stay independent and free.

what the fuck Gmno

I will agree with most of that honestly. Fighting you guys in the open field I do not really mind.. it is the tons of cav that come with it I can do without. Fcc used to be more well rounded but the cav portion of our group faded away when huey left and have not really been the same since. We can still field a few decent guys but not nearly the amount needed in a pitched open field fight.

Yo don't forget Cavalieres_Daruvian dude.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Aderyn on September 20, 2013, 05:00:24 am
For those interested, yes daruvian, that is exactly what i meant. =)
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Gmnotutoo on September 20, 2013, 05:05:54 am
what the fuck Gmno


Your wings have sprouted but you have yet to fly. Show me how majestic you are, my GOBBLIN KING.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: arowaine on September 20, 2013, 06:00:34 am
really can not win in this community... When we were marching and (yes taking castles and cities) we were harassed for being war mongering assholes.. Now that a very large portion of the map is allied we choose defense and get harassed for it as well.

In the tkov/LCO war how many times did LCO come out and fight in the open field? You guys are the aggressors... Try being aggressive! How the hell do you think we have all these castles and cities?

As Matey said if you want to attack somewhere we can arrange to have the troops in it lowered so you can attack with a decent amount of troops. We offer that and then you complain that we are doing that to our benefit! Really? It would be to the benefit of the community since we would force everything into prime time.

Ohay

yeah many times sir we did take a few village and grab a couple aswell learn your history thanks you :)
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Relit on September 20, 2013, 01:27:44 pm
oh geeee

Acting all big and tough about past victories in castles taken when it's been a small clan against the grand alliance of FCC (several clans) AND other clans such as tkov, raven ...

... Raven never helped FCC take anything over except villages that had to be retaken... we then went to war with FCC shortly after. I think your mixing something up here.

Edit: If you for some odd reason do not believe me, then talk to Frisia and they can confirm everything Raven did at that time period.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Aderyn on September 20, 2013, 02:44:42 pm
... Raven never helped FCC take anything over except villages that had to be retaken... we then went to war with FCC shortly after. I think your mixing something up here.

Edit: If you for some odd reason do not believe me, then talk to Frisia and they can confirm everything Raven did at that time period.

Actually they came to the rescue when hosp attacked your lands and together you pushed hosp back wich later led to ichamur being taken. Would not have happened if FCC was alone in all of this, nor Raven.

The point i was making is that whenever they take a castle and feel so cool about how they can take a castle it's about 5-9 clans vs 1-2. They don't fight unless they have other clans with them even tho they are a massive alliance of clans. It's the way it's always been.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Turboflex on September 20, 2013, 03:22:58 pm
Actually they came to the rescue when hosp attacked your lands and together you pushed hosp back wich later led to ichamur being taken. Would not have happened if FCC was alone in all of this, nor Raven.

The point i was making is that whenever they take a castle and feel so cool about how they can take a castle it's about 5-9 clans vs 1-2. They don't fight unless they have other clans with them even tho they are a massive alliance of clans. It's the way it's always been.

It was your choice to attack us (with Astralis) when we were already under attack from Occitan/SS/China.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: MURDERTRON on September 20, 2013, 03:32:10 pm
Actually they came to the rescue when hosp attacked your lands and together you pushed hosp back wich later led to ichamur being taken. Would not have happened if FCC was alone in all of this, nor Raven.

The point i was making is that whenever they take a castle and feel so cool about how they can take a castle it's about 5-9 clans vs 1-2. They don't fight unless they have other clans with them even tho they are a massive alliance of clans. It's the way it's always been.

Ya we had 5-9 clams when we took out your ally Kutt, or you're full of shit.  I'm not sure which one.

All of these diplomacy posts aren't going to convince anyone that you're entire clan isn't completely inept in all matters Strategus.

Ps.  If you piss off an entire clan so they never merc for you again (semen storm), you can't say we're being supported by them.  That's just your own stupidity doing you in, like it has, this entire strat.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: BaleOhay on September 20, 2013, 03:40:17 pm
Pretty sure we took your city alone.. would have done so sooner but for the flag in that unreachable spot.

us helping ravens had nothing to do with our ability to get that city from you. It likely had more to do with us only being at war with hos and your management in flux at that time. When we get the chance to focus on a target we do so pretty well.

Like Kesh said we have no issues with hosp here. You guys or frisia even, both your groups have given i t a try against tough targets multiple times.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Mae. on September 20, 2013, 04:45:36 pm
youre all just a bunch of xp holding jerks, im so damn close to 31. HATE CHU
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Real_Dece_Guy on September 20, 2013, 04:56:29 pm
How do you think I feel?  I was 250K away from 32 last siege, so I decided to wait to retire until the next battle and not waste XP.  I could have spent all this time getting back up to level 30.

And now if I do it the hard way, I'm convinced the war will break out the day after because Murphy's Law.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Aderyn on September 20, 2013, 06:04:42 pm
As a sidenote, you do know i don't represent hosp on strat anymore right?
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: MURDERTRON on September 20, 2013, 06:13:37 pm
As a sidenote, you do know i don't represent hosp on strat anymore right?

And I don't represent FCC, but that doesn't mean we didn't have leadership roles in our former clans.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Artyem on September 20, 2013, 06:17:59 pm
Actually they came to the rescue when hosp attacked your lands and together you pushed hosp back wich later led to ichamur being taken. Would not have happened if FCC was alone in all of this, nor Raven.

wat

Ravens were not alone when they pushed back Hosp, they had Frisia and Dracul as well.  FCC actually didn't do much in the field and after taking back the Fimbulvetr fiefs with us they basically diverted all of their resources to Ichamur.  Meanwhile, Fimbulvetr was consistently taking your fiefs and sending your guys to EU.

The point i was making is that whenever they take a castle and feel so cool about how they can take a castle it's about 5-9 clans vs 1-2. They don't fight unless they have other clans with them even tho they are a massive alliance of clans. It's the way it's always been.

Like I said above, we didn't do much at all to help them besides attacking villages and field armies.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Aderyn on September 20, 2013, 06:23:33 pm
wat

Ravens were not alone when they pushed back Hosp, they had Frisia and Dracul as well.  FCC actually didn't do much in the field and after taking back the Fimbulvetr fiefs with us they basically diverted all of their resources to Ichamur.  Meanwhile, Fimbulvetr was consistently taking your fiefs and sending your guys to EU.

Like I said above, we didn't do much at all to help them besides attacking villages and field armies.

yes, this is exactly what i'm saying artyem. I'm saying that FCC havn't taken big cities or castles without help >.> not sure what the issue here is.

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Murdertron the difference between you and me is that i operate in EU now under kalmar union while you still hang out with FCC on strat so i dare say there is a differance. =) not that it matters tho.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Harrys Oil Can on September 20, 2013, 06:30:43 pm
Jesus ya'll a bunch of fucking nerds
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: arowaine on September 20, 2013, 06:35:58 pm
Who do you hate more, Kesh or Arowaine? That is what I believe Strat 4.0 has been reduced too and the majority of active strat clans are on whatever side of the two mega-alliance war.

If you want strat to be good again both sides need to end the war, break up with their strat allies, bury the internet grudges, and let people go their separate ways. Troop stacking will go down and the number of battles per-day will rise. I guarantee it will fix the dilemma we have now. It is probably just easier to reset it though. (Kesh, if you +1 this then you actually better commit to doing it.)

To: FIDLGB, Astralis, FPF, Golden Apple Corps, Dracul and their vassals Raven I mean allies, Ascalon clan, and of course BIRD CLAN. You guys are doing it right, stay independent and free.
*Anders was left off this list for being utterly boring in strat while perpetuating the KDR whore mentality with the NA losses thread for his own profit.

in fact occitan is only ally with mb/fupa(this is a fact) atm as far as i know and have good relation with severtal faction cause we do have comun ennemy and well fcc is so fucking big 200 player + so people just fear them and cant do any move cause they all know fcc is opportunist (nothing bad there ) but this is the way they play.

its like saying fcc is ally with raven/tkov you know

ps: as our stand rigth now we do not have the time to prepare army/manage equipement make strategic move and lead battle!
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Matey on September 20, 2013, 06:52:05 pm
in fact occitan is only ally with mb/fupa(this is a fact) atm as far as i know and have good relation with severtal faction cause we do have comun ennemy and well fcc is so fucking big 200 player + so people just fear them and cant do any move cause they all know fcc is opportunist (nothing bad there ) but this is the way they play.

its like saying fcc is ally with raven/tkov you know

ps: as our stand rigth now we do not have the time to prepare army/manage equipement make strategic move and lead battle!


hah! FCC with 200+... I count 108 of which at BEST half are active. You can imagine us being super huge all you like but you and your allies have more troops, more silver and more players. It's also worth noting that many of the clans that joined the FCC this strat did so because they were getting ganged up on. Maybe it is a mutual feeling on both sides that survival requires allies.. but I'm quite sure that LCO and friends have FCC and friends outnumbered by quite a bit... and LCO at the very least WAS the single largest faction after VE broke apart... I don't know how many LCO are still active so that may not be true any more.

P.s. Aderyn... Who did we gang up with when we fought CHAOS and took three castles and even came close on dhirim before Frisia and Mates poured reinforcements into it.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: MURDERTRON on September 20, 2013, 07:33:19 pm
Arrowaine, when did FCC absorb Grey Order?
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Aderyn on September 20, 2013, 08:33:30 pm
P.s. Aderyn... Who did we gang up with when we fought CHAOS and took three castles and even came close on dhirim before Frisia and Mates poured reinforcements into it.

Can't remember if RoR and those other people was with you at the time or if that was after you gave it to them, but it's still grand alliance FCC vs small clans of 10 or less people :P. It might be one of the few castles derchio and senesomething that is that you took without another clan doing alot of work for you. That said it's still ~10clans vs 1-2 because of how many that is inside FCC but would still be exempt from my original point ofcourse if RoR and the others wasn't with you at the time.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Matey on September 20, 2013, 08:46:18 pm
Can't remember if RoR and those other people was with you at the time or if that was after you gave it to them, but it's still grand alliance FCC vs small clans of 10 or less people :P. It might be one of the few castles derchio and senesomething that is that you took without another clan doing alot of work for you. That said it's still ~10clans vs 1-2 because of how many that is inside FCC but would still be exempt from my original point ofcourse if RoR and the others wasn't with you at the time.

RoR and the others were never with us. We took fidl and chaos on ourselves and sold the land off.

We also took on KUTT solo rather than fighting against hosp who already had enough enemies.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on September 20, 2013, 08:46:51 pm
I request that we insult one another's personal lives instead of making the circular argument of

"you have more players"

"no you have more players!"

Very few people in any clan have the desire to play on the strategus map anymore; most only want XP. Both sides probably have more than half of their raw numbers partially or completely inactive. Just be satisfied in your personal knowledge that the other block has more active players than your own. After all, truth is subjective and nothing is going to convince you that your truth is incorrect.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on September 20, 2013, 08:51:39 pm
I request that we insult one another's personal lives instead of making the circular argument of

"you have more players"

"no you have more players!"

Very few people in any clan have the desire to play on the strategus map anymore; most only want XP. Both sides probably have more than half of their raw numbers partially or completely inactive. Just be satisfied in your personal knowledge that the other block has more active players than your own. After all, truth is subjective and nothing is going to convince you that your truth is incorrect.

I think I just got cut on those edges there. Did you switch your degree from psychology to philosophy?
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on September 20, 2013, 09:00:41 pm
I think I just got cut on those edges there. Did you switch your degree from psychology to philosophy?

Women's studies.

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Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Kaelaen on September 20, 2013, 09:05:19 pm
I don't even know why people take whatever Kesh or Bale or Matey or even Murdertron's posts seriously.  The only person whose words hold meaning regarding the FCC is Kamikaze Joe.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on September 21, 2013, 02:24:03 am
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The only person whose words hold meaning regarding the FCC is Kamikaze Joe.

I'm actually Kesh. We've been over this before.

Also:
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Fcc used to be more well rounded but the cav portion of our group faded away when huey left and have not really been the same since.

HAHA


NO

CAVALIERES IS DOING GREAT WHAT ARE YOU EVEN SAYING!?!
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Aderyn on September 21, 2013, 02:26:17 am
We also took on KUTT solo rather than fighting against hosp who already had enough enemies.

Wat.

Pretty sure KUTT was betrayed by whatstheirname who currently held 1/3 of their total army and joined you guys.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Socks on September 21, 2013, 04:08:14 am
Wat.

Pretty sure KUTT was betrayed by whatstheirname who currently held 1/3 of their total army and joined you guys.
Remnants? if that's what your thinking.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: BaleOhay on September 21, 2013, 04:14:08 am
Nope try again. Not the reason we won or even close.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Matey on September 21, 2013, 04:31:23 am
I seem to recall something about us taking their town's in one go with flag caps.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Aderyn on September 21, 2013, 04:32:36 am
teutonics! Those are the ones.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 21, 2013, 04:38:48 am
Rehashing Kutt war?

Fine here: Kutt got invaded(loosely) by 2 factions, ME at Ulburban, and FCC at the snowy side. Following KUTTs rather dismal start, Tuetonics bowed out of KUTT alliance and joined FCC. Thus, KUTT became a 3:1, but I bowed out at Ulburban, and KUTT collapsed because they weren't ready on strat at all.

Thus, technically, it was a 3 on 1 war in favor of FCC.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Socks on September 21, 2013, 04:50:02 am
teutonics! Those are the ones.
Oh yes teutonics had a thing with KUTT if i remember (AoW now) and some kind of MERC argeement with the rems and KUTT
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Mae. on September 21, 2013, 05:49:35 am
Oh yes we had a thing with KUTT if i remember (AoW now) some kind of alliance had to do with Rems and KUTT and stuff.

no.
teutonic bailed out on their alliance. remnant was always against kutt, who the hell are you and where did you get these ideas? even anders knows better.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Socks on September 21, 2013, 06:04:02 am
no.
teutonic bailed out on their alliance. remnant was always against kutt, who the hell are you and where did you get these ideas? even anders knows better.
http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/nap-or-slap/msg674833/#msg674833

HG was represented in Remnant faction in strat to.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 21, 2013, 06:13:41 am
no.
teutonic bailed out on their alliance. remnant was always against kutt, who the hell are you and where did you get these ideas? even anders knows better.

I was involved in said war, so I should know :wink:
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Sauce on September 21, 2013, 06:19:51 am
http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/nap-or-slap/msg674833/#msg674833

You're new. Remnant took the majority of territories from KUTT earlier when strat was interesting. For whatever reason, Teutonic bailed on their first alliance with KUTT in favor of allying with FCC. What you're posting is the TAMDA that Remnant set up for the tundra but was not directly apart of (which is why my signature is not there), in which a territory we sold back to KUTT was attacked by another faction but Remnants were hired by mainly one side because that's just who signed us up first (which is the topic of discussion in that thread.)

The NAP outlined that a Remnant army would not attack their territory for 60 days. What was hazy was what sides Remnant members could sign up for, because fuck it we want exp too right?

And just for further clarification :
Just want to post before this escalates into a shit-fest, which was only partially my intention  :twisted:, that Sauce clarified with me that Remnant is apparently not apart of TAMDA, as I suppose I misunderstood from Elindor's writings. The NAP, while the merc support for the opposition seems questionable has been written off as nothing more than mercs just wanting xp.


Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Mae. on September 21, 2013, 06:21:23 am
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Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Socks on September 21, 2013, 06:25:43 am
What was hazy was what sides Remnant members could sign up for, because fuck it we want exp too right?
moar xp
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Knute on September 21, 2013, 07:12:48 am
Rehashing Kutt war?

Fine here: Kutt got invaded(loosely) by 2 factions, ME at Ulburban, and FCC at the snowy side. Following KUTTs rather dismal start, Tuetonics bowed out of KUTT alliance and joined FCC. Thus, KUTT became a 3:1, but I bowed out at Ulburban, and KUTT collapsed because they weren't ready on strat at all.

Thus, technically, it was a 3 on 1 war in favor of FCC.

I think by the end it was FCC, Remnant/HG, Dragoni of Valahia, The Coalition and Teutonic Knights.

These are from the archive on my old abandoned ghost town war alliance (http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/wars-and-alliances-na/) thread on 10/24/12

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and then 11/10/12 when KUTT was down to their last two fiefs.

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Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: kasMVC on September 21, 2013, 07:37:25 am
The frisian offensive is officially over. We are going to hold onto what we have taken and enjoy the pinkey purpley text from entering the server. We aren't going to make any inflammatory remarks about FCC doing what they want to do. We are quite content with our pickings.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: MURDERTRON on September 21, 2013, 09:45:31 pm
I think by the end it was FCC, Remnant/HG, Dragoni of Valahia, The Coalition and Teutonic Knights.

These are from the archive on my old abandoned ghost town war alliance (http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/wars-and-alliances-na/) thread on 10/24/12

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and then 11/10/12 when KUTT was down to their last two fiefs.

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This doesn't really paint an accurate picture because if there are no battles between two factions, then everyone can say they are at war and have not done shit.  For example, I don't think Coalition and KUTT actually fought each other.


Rehashing Kutt war?

Fine here: Kutt got invaded(loosely) by 2 factions, ME at Ulburban, and FCC at the snowy side. Following KUTTs rather dismal start, Tuetonics bowed out of KUTT alliance and joined FCC. Thus, KUTT became a 3:1, but I bowed out at Ulburban, and KUTT collapsed because they weren't ready on strat at all.

Thus, technically, it was a 3 on 1 war in favor of FCC.

Anders, I think everyone would be hard pressed to count you as an actual clan.  You did use your mercenary army just once for an attack, but you are only one merc.  To count a clan as a whole, you also need to consider mercenary roster support.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Kalam on September 21, 2013, 10:04:13 pm
"D'Hara will rise again," Kalam whispered into his clay mug. It was filled to the brim with a creamy liquid the color of autumn, and the rich scent of pumpkin, nutmeg, cinnamon, and cayenne might be what caused his blonde ninja wife to lick her lips.

"When Anders is dead, maybe," she clarified for him. She didn't know if he was talking to her, since it was his habit to rant to anyone who would hear- even if he was his own audience. Perhaps especially so. This was a man who was no stranger to mental masturbation.

The game set on the table involved many hues. Yet...there were only two colors. "This is wrong. I am getting fatter, not with the fake fat armor, but with real fat. The stuff that comes when you sit around all day drinking hot cocoa with marshmallows instead of fighting." He sent a single piece on the game board careening across the room with another. "Winning is a bore. It's the playing that we enjoy." Whether this was for himself, for his wife, or for the little fruit bat that hung in a corner of the room was a puzzle that didn't need to be solved.

"I think you might find these helpful," added his wife as she set several buckets of paint on the table. In her childhood, she once saw a prism flaunted by a traveling merchant. How she had wanted it. Her parents didn't have the coin, though, but now, now these buckets were full of the colors that the prism revealed. "Look hard enough, and there are more colors than two hidden in every piece."

"Perfect." Kalam shot up with an energy he forgot he had, splashing the buckets all over the table. "Now..."

"...we can play."

They smiled at each other.

Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 21, 2013, 10:09:26 pm
Anders, I think everyone would be hard pressed to count you as an actual clan.  You did use your mercenary army just once for an attack, but you are only one merc.  To count a clan as a whole, you also need to consider mercenary roster support.

True,  but having to defend against an enemy army is still a problem. Which is why i used the "technically" term.

Edit: Hmm 666 reknown. Lovely.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Garem on September 22, 2013, 03:14:25 am
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For example, I don't think Coalition and KUTT actually fought each other.

We started the fight with KUTT by attacking their caravan carrying critical supplies just prior to the full-fledged FCC invasion.

CHAOS, Occitan, and several others (as can be seen in the image) declared war on us, besieging our army in Ismirala Castle and preventing our participation. They couldn't beat us since Ismirala is the hardest castle to take.

Ended up a boring ass stalemate and nobody had fun or XP for weeks.

Sounds kinda of familiar. Not that it's anyone's fault. The game incentivizes inactivity in this regard, which is pretty awful. Something should be done about it.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Matey on September 22, 2013, 05:01:48 am
We started the fight with KUTT by attacking their caravan carrying critical supplies just prior to the full-fledged FCC invasion.

CHAOS, Occitan, and several others (as can be seen in the image) declared war on us, besieging our army in Ismirala Castle and preventing our participation. They couldn't beat us since Ismirala is the hardest castle to take.

Ended up a boring ass stalemate and nobody had fun or XP for weeks.

Sounds kinda of familiar. Not that it's anyone's fault. The game incentivizes inactivity in this regard, which is pretty awful. Something should be done about it.

wasnt it Tilbault castle? Or Rindyar? Hmm
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: arowaine on September 22, 2013, 05:17:53 am
We started the fight with KUTT by attacking their caravan carrying critical supplies just prior to the full-fledged FCC invasion.

CHAOS, Occitan, and several others (as can be seen in the image) declared war on us, besieging our army in Ismirala Castle and preventing our participation. They couldn't beat us since Ismirala is the hardest castle to take.

Ended up a boring ass stalemate and nobody had fun or XP for weeks.

Sounds kinda of familiar. Not that it's anyone's fault. The game incentivizes inactivity in this regard, which is pretty awful. Something should be done about it.

was chaos and occitan on na side at that time that declare war on you. As matey stated it was tibault castle.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Garem on September 22, 2013, 09:45:55 pm
Doh, right! Tilbaut Castle, thanks.

Ismirala (the one we hold now) is good, but it's not as good as Tilbaut.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: MURDERTRON on September 23, 2013, 12:39:13 am
wasnt it Tilbault castle? Or Rindyar? Hmm

Rindyar is the castle I gave Sandersson for the low low price of one sloppy handjob.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 23, 2013, 04:20:48 pm
Rindyar is the castle I gave Sandersson for the low low price of one sloppy handjob.

Also known as "the classic".

This is where my RP would go if I had more than one sentence to contribute to the thread.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Goretooth on September 25, 2013, 06:30:38 pm
Yeah, those siege towers or whatever really prevented the flag cap that was never going to happen.
Why place the siege towers right atop your own spawn flags? Thought that sort of gameplay was against the rules.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Real_Dece_Guy on September 25, 2013, 07:25:38 pm
Why place the siege towers right atop your own spawn flags? Thought that sort of gameplay was against the rules.

I don't know specifically which battle you're complaining about, but I fought in at two about that time where FCC used siege towers: one open battle, one siege.  In the open battle, the siege tower was built at our flag line, and backed up as soon as we realized it was hitting a flag.

In the siege (which I believe was Ismirala) we built it behind the wall that was being broken down and rolled it forward to plug the gap when it opened..  Aside from the downed flags on top of the breach, we weren't touching any there.

Neither of those is properly characterized as "exploiting".
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: dynamike on September 25, 2013, 10:26:45 pm
I don't know specifically which battle you're complaining about

Don't worry, he doesn't know either. He's usually just rambling to stir up some shit.
Title: Re: did you call off the war?
Post by: Goretooth on September 26, 2013, 08:59:15 am
Don't worry, he doesn't know either. He's usually just rambling to stir up some shit.
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=5042