Sounds like a silly way to declare war to me!
I am placing you under arrest for the war crimes committed against the citizens of Mazen. You will surrender your army to me, or we will be forced to take your life, and those of the men around you.
This is not a declaration of war against Remnant, who say they are neutral in this war of Chaos and allies vs Hospitallers and allies. This is merely the hand of justice serving the warrant for Shik's arrest.
You have the choice in this matter Shik, life, or death. Your life will be spared if you surrender.
Hospies are the "world" police now apparently. Under who's authority is this arrest being made?
Shik is a wanted criminal, he attacked Mazen which was controlled by Astralis, before Remnant declared they were neutral in this war. We have no beef with Remnant, but Shik will answer for his crimes.
This is on behalf of Astralis and the citizens of Mazen. Shik is responsible for his unwarranted aggression and attack on a sovereign village, and the deaths of hundreds of civilians. Justice demands he answer for these crimes. I am taking him prisoner to be held in judgement of his peers. Unless he can chooses to go for his sword, then my knights will be responsible for his demise.
Call it vigilante justice, I'm bringing him to Astralis to answer for his war crimes. They can do as they will with this scum. My army happened across his, and I'm in the position to enforce the law in the name of justice. And if not justice, then surely for the sake of the innocent reindeer herders of Mazen who were slaughtered like animals.
Call it vigilante justice, I'm bringing him to Astralis to answer for his war crimes. They can do as they will with this scum. My army happened across his, and I'm in the position to enforce the law in the name of justice. And if not justice, then surely for the sake of the innocent reindeer herders of Mazen who were slaughtered like animals.
Are you above the law?
"Mr. I am the LaW!"
Oh wait, thats Goretooth.
I just found out what chaos stands for. Crooks Helping An Opressive Shik.
I just found out what chaos stands for. Crooks Helping An Opressive Shik.
Why couldn't you make this battle like 20 minutes later??? le sigh.
The people of mazen Hated living under the astralis tyrants, shik did them a favor.
So much HATE :lol:
He was not at the battle, we , his brave knights, held off this wanna be sheriff, while our lord shik, went to recruit more men for our cause, and come back stronger!
So you are one of his brave knights? So it seems that they have an alliance with FIDLGB and Chaos then? I'd have to say they are not neutral then and are openly hostile unless Remnant says he is working independently.
So because one person who fought on our side said something on the forums (Who happens to not even be in Remnant) you automatically assume that?
Sooo sowwy about da pearl harborz U.S.A. but we wanna be nuetral now! U gud?
You also dun mind if we send 1k+ army to try and reinforce Chaos down south k? We neutral! U gud?
Iz all one big mistake we rike u rots, USA USA! Iz all one beeeeeeeg mistrake! Shik, sure he carry our banner and use all our soldiers and try fuck u hard arrrrl the time and he in our clan, but we gud right? Is OK! We NUUUUUEEETRAL!
Die Shik. You dodgy bastard. :D
Sooo sowwy about da pearl harborz U.S.A. but we wanna be nuetral now! U gud?Is this the kind of teaching you guys provided in Mazen?
You also dun mind if we send 1k+ army to try and reinforce Chaos down south k? We neutral! U gud?
Iz all one big mistake we rike u rots, USA USA! Iz all one beeeeeeeg mistrake! Shik, sure he carry our banner and use all our soldiers and try fuck u hard arrrrl the time and he in our clan, but we gud right? Is OK! We NUUUUUEEETRAL!
Die Shik. You dodgy bastard. :D
What are you even talking about Devestater? He was not going there to reinforce Ismarala. In case you didn't know we have people there crafting as well as recruiting. You may want to check your facts before you go spewing bullshit. If you think Shik honestly reset the server you need to go get your head checked. And it also appears that you have no idea what your men are doing as I've heard three different reasons now as to why Shik was attacked. So you may want to work on your clan before making treaties and then going back on them.I do not think it takes rocket science to figure out Shiks intentions and/or what his feelings are towards Hospitallers. Also it doesnt take a large force to transport goods, and there is no way your small clan made that much in the short amount of time that you had mazen. As far as I am concerned Mazen belongs to Astralis and will be taken and given back to the rightful owners, which is not remnant and especially not Shik. If the only means of fighting us is through the forums, then have fun. Otherwise you can tell your leaders to come and discuss the "shik" issue. I think your real clan ATS would support this as well. So just step back and let the big boys take care of business.
I do not think it takes rocket science to figure out Shiks intentions and/or what his feelings are towards Hospitallers. As far as I am concerned Mazen belongs to Astralis and will be taken and given back to the rightful owners, which is not remnant and especially not Shik. If the only means of fighting us is through the forums, then have fun. Otherwise you can tell your leaders to come and discuss the "shik" issue. I think your real clan ATS would support this as well. So just step back and let the big boys take care of business.
Shik INVADED Mazen and tried to poon doggle my goat. He needs to face justice. As soon as we can find out were him and Sauce are holding their secret "spooning" sessions, we can exact our vengeance.
M
Well I'm glad someone here is a mind reader.
downvotes by hospitaller? looks like someone is getting a little butt-devestated.
who instigated it? lol. Common shik... you know how it goes. too bad this time its in your favor or i guess we would all be banned? Is this why the server always crashes when you are on? Damn devs in clans.... Should work, but for some reason it doesnt stay balanced does it?
who instigated it? lol. Common shik... you know how it goes. too bad this time its in your favor or i guess we would all be banned? Is this why the server always crashes when you are on? Damn devs in clans.... Should work, but for some reason it doesnt stay balanced does it?
And it also appears that you have no idea what your men are doing as I've heard three different reasons now as to why Shik was attacked.
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=3947
http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/remnants-declares/msg561890/#msg561890
Look at time stamps and you can see. If you haven't listened, or read, you'd see shik was attacked clearly for a good reason.(OP says so too.... (http://I am placing you under arrest for the war crimes committed against the citizens of Mazen. You will surrender your army to me, or we will be forced to take your life, and those of the men around you.
This is not a declaration of war against Remnant, who say they are neutral in this war of Chaos and allies vs Hospitallers and allies. This is merely the hand of justice serving the warrant for Shik's arrest.))
(short Version: Shik attacks Mazen(carrying 400 crates) so they thought it was a trade run on July 27. Next day remnant declares neutrality. OP attacks shik in retalition for mazen....continue from there)
In Addition: remnant signed en masse for that battle(Shik IS remnant so it's understandable). So if it WANTED to be escalated, you could find a Casus Belli TO do it because had remnant WANTED to be neutral they shouldn't have hired up for that battle to show the clans feelings. But Fighting for clan/faction beats diplo BS so no hard feelings and astralis could care less about the rest of remnant, but just wants to wipe shik.
This is irrelevant as the people in charge made the treaty after these battles had taken place. We kicked you out of Mazen then a treaty was agreed upon. Once Hospitaller broke the treaty, all merc contracts were then denied to your side. You were all either not important enough to know the terms of the agreement or decided to break your own treaty after it was made.
Either way it does not matter. It's just another incident of incompetence that everyone has now been made aware of.
I am very sure that we are competent enough to win without your support, or lack there of it.
This is irrelevant as the people in charge made the treaty after these battles had taken place. We kicked you out of Mazen then a treaty was agreed upon. Once Hospitaller broke the treaty, all merc contracts were then denied to your side. You were all either not important enough to know the terms of the agreement or decided to break your own treaty after it was made.
Either way it does not matter. It's just another incident of incompetence that everyone has now been made aware of.
I'm on my way to "trade" at Mazen.
You honestly expect someone to sit down and say "Oh, you're neutral and not enemy" after you attack them?
inb4 Goretooth betrays another clan he's in and takes all their stuff.Nah just taking your fief and returning its previous owner.
Nah just taking your fief and returning its previous owner.
Wasn't aware I had a fief. You sure you know what you're doing?shik is apart of your clan right? and he owns Mazen.
Nah just taking your fief and returning its previous owner.
There was nothing wrong with the merc treaty. I doubt u make chaos pay tho, coz then they would be piss poor right now. =)and about to be homeless.
and about to be homeless.
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This entire statement just confirms your betters left you all completely in the dark, as you have no idea: a) what the terms of the treaty were b) when the treaty even took place.
And hypothetically, if the treaty did not include Astralis; why was it Hospitaller that attacked?
No I didn't, but yes, they did lol. Which is why I brought in my own witnesses.
Also Devestater you're right, I apologize for having you pay 1k for each Remnant Mercenary contract. That was completely out of line.
Have fun everyone! /thread
chaos? your in chaos?(click to show/hide)
Speaking of homeless...
Come on Goretooth, you wanted to be one of us once. There's no reason for the hate brother. Let's all just move on.
Why hosp Attacked and not astralis: http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/arresting-remnant_shik/msg568754/#msg568754
I'm not privy to Hosp treaties
The funny thing is that it has just been confirmed that huesby has no goods on him. So Shiks actions broke the treaty. Was he just taking a stroll? Just passing by FIDLGB and their only castle that had just been attacked? quick marching in the midddle of the night?
I think not.
Nice try trying to play this off Sauce. I am glad that I went with my gut (common sense actually).
shik is apart of your clan right? and he owns Mazen.
lol i was actually just picking up troops from my faction members that were recruiting south of the river but whatever you say(click to show/hide)
Ahhhh Sauce, Apparently you ARE as dumb as your momma always said you were. =(
But you'll get over it big fella. Go dish your bullshit somewhere else, we are all full up here.
M
(Also, Shik continues to be a dodgy bastard and needs to be put to the sword, lest his dodgyness spread throughout the realm!)
picking up troops with a fully equipped 1200 man army in the middle of the night with quick march on? That makes a lot of sense buddy. If your intentions were pure, then maybe you should have considered the implications of bringing such a large, equipped army into a war zone. You could have had your members bring the troops to you.
Bold talk for being neutral scum bucket :lol: Good try trying to assert that Shik got all the troops and arms himself though...
"Mr. Sauce, what you've been saying are some of the most insanely idiotic things we have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent responses were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on these forums is now dumber for having listened to you. We award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
M
lol i was actually just picking up troops from my faction members that were recruiting south of the river but whatever you say(click to show/hide)
Why don't you post the treaty sauce. You know, for all us people that don't matter. Its already been broken so its not like its sensitive information. Until you post that treaty, all of your arguments are merely opinion and have no evidence supporting them. If you wish to remain a talking head, go ahead and keep spewing your opinions on here. If you wish to be taken seriously by anyone, then back your arguments up with some real evidence. We already supported our argument with evidence. Shik was not on a trade run as your clan stated. Where is your proof? Without it, your arguments are easily dismissed.
picking up troops with a fully equipped 1200 man army in the middle of the night with quick march on? That makes a lot of sense buddy. If your intentions were pure, then maybe you should have considered the implications of bringing such a large, equipped army into a war zone. You could have had your members bring the troops to you.
So the result is: You either intended to reinforce ismarala, or you are an idiot, made a stupid mistake, and paid the price for it. Which do you prefer?
Isn't it innocent until proven guilty? Therefore, you Hospie police would need to provide evidence of all of these allegations that you are making and not Shik/Remnants. Let see screenshots, voice recordings, or anything else you have.
You probably would have had people attack their other members as well in your quest for "Justice." Also, commas aren't to be used to make poorly constructed sentences such at the ones above.
Hospie police need to stop taking this game so seriously since there will be a wipe soon enough anyways. Just play, get some XP, and quit bitching about everything.
Hey guess what buddy, this isn't the United States. We don't have a constitution or a bill of rights. Therefore, we can do pretty much whatever we want, which entails not letting ya'll do whatever you want. Hurts to be a sheep doesn't it? Let the dogs play. Of course you could be like chaos and try to pave the way for the pigs (UIF) to conquer calradia.
and my use of commas to break up sentences was intentional to emphasize certain parts of the sentence. I love how you say "quit bitching about everything" as you simultaneously bitch about my use of the English language.
Bitching about English on a forum that's world wide with a predominate majority being NON English speakers...
Stupid Grammar chocolate chip cookie BS.
Oh no, someone is going to conquer my digital world. I'm heart broken right now and have to go recover.how u spell Ismirala?
What makes you think you're such a big thing? You're a member of a faction on an indie game? Woo hoo.
I'm not bitching about everything, just the poor usage of English that I see most Hospies using on the forums.
how u spell Ismirala?
Bazekly, it seems you were too close to their borders and they didn't like it. It looks like the person who attacked you doesn't have the KUTT tags on either, so it may be a new recruit or someone who didn't know the rules of engagement. None the less, it's a battle so just enjoy yourself.
Grammar chocolate chip cookie mode: L2SPELL NOOB. I like run-on sentences, don't you?
Just saying, you do it as well. So don't go grammar chocolate chip cookieng others too....
You didn't catch the run on either?
Just stating that don't call out grammar mistakes on others. I'm sure if I searched hard enough I could find some pretty shitty posts by you too. Anyways, lets talk about grammar more. I think this thread needs to be a grammar thread, don't you?
Too many spaces in between You and Too.
You think he actually spelled Basically as Bazekly..(to many periods)
I just.. what the fuck.
We have been having a a great time so far! How about you?NA strat battles? fun just requires a little drama to get them going. Glad sauce is terrible at diplomacy.
On a daily basis I can hear the joyous laughter echoing through our Teamspeak. Come chill with us and see how seriously we take the game. :lol:
On a daily basis I can hear the joyous laughter echoing through our Teamspeak. Come chill with us and see how seriously we take the game. :lol:
We have been having a a great time so far! How about you?
On a daily basis I can hear the joyous laughter echoing through our Teamspeak. Come chill with us and see how seriously we take the game. :lol:
I actually want to do that sometime! Don't take this the wrong way, but I think of it as a completely paradox experience: being in the same channel with so many nice and cool people you have in your clan and the other blatant idiots that make up the rest of it at the same time.
Or maybe some of them are just forum idiots and actually good people when you talk to them. I'd like to find out sometime.
I agree with you here about most of the people in all clans. The forums are a strange beast and people act completely different here than they do on TS or even in real life. I have no issue talking with many of the people who I've had skirmishes with on the forums. I think it would be good for players to intermingle a bit more and see that not everyone is an a hole.e-peen
SUPRISE! Strat is a numbers game. A clan with more members then any other clan is the most powerful and can do whatever they want. This is what is wrong with strat right now. Planning doesn't mean anything when you have enough members to fund anything. You can just brute force any opposition because you have more tickets and enough gold to burn that everyone is equipped in +3 mil plate and heavy horses. Unfortunitly I don't really see this changing in upcoming strats anytime soon.How could it? Of course this is how any strat would work! We were a clan of 7 players and got our asses kicked 2 strats in a row. Finally we had enough members in this strat to stay alive. The only way to make up for lack of members, is having strong allies.
How could it? Of course this is how any strat would work! We were a clan of 7 players and got our asses kicked 2 strats in a row. Finally we had enough members in this strat to stay alive. The only way to make up for lack of members, is having strong allies.
Shik is a wanted criminal, he attacked Mazen which was controlled by Astralis, before Remnant declared they were neutral in this war. We have no beef with Remnant, but Shik will answer for his crimes.
This is on behalf of Astralis and the citizens of Mazen. Shik is responsible for his unwarranted aggression and attack on a sovereign village, and the deaths of hundreds of civilians. Justice demands he answer for these crimes. I am taking him prisoner to be held in judgement of his peers. Unless he can chooses to go for his sword, then my knights will be responsible for his demise.
Way too much anger, butthurt, and drama in this thread.
I was indisposed on Friday and unable to command the battle, I appreciate those that stepped in my place to try and avenge some justice for the people of Mazen.
It is confirmed there were no trade goods on Shik as we were told on Friday (Devilize was told by some Remnants). Here's how the events unfolded in my mind:
July 27th, Shik attacks Mazen and takes over the village, all while flying the Remnant banners. July 28th Remnant declares they are neutral in the war. Apparently on August 1st an agreement was made between Occitan/Hospitallers, and Remnant accepting their neutrality. Why Mazen/shik wasn't discussed in this (or why it wasn't brought up with HATE) is beyond me, but that was a mistake.
On the morning of August 2nd I saw SHIK was trying to cross the western bridge from TKOV to ex-FIDLGB lands, but I was blocking his path along with another knight of the Hospitallers (Havoc). I made the decision to attack him (not knowing about this "treaty" with Remnant). Any treaty that did not address SHIK or Mazen, is no treaty at all. That should have been obvious to Remnant that we (us, or our allies) would retake Mazen because it belongs to Astralis.
If I had to do it again, I would have made sure the "treaty" included language about SHIK and Mazen, however mistakes happen. The important thing is that we got it right, and that SHIK paid for his treachery (although he escaped before the battle started) and Mazen will be given back to Astralis. Treaty be damned, that was the right thing to do. And I'm glad I did attack his army, because there were no trade goods on him, as we were told there was, and that he was simply transporting trade goods to market to sell them was a lie by Remnant diplomats.
Translation:
After the Treaty of Paris ending the War of Independence was signed in 1783, the European forces kept attacking the United States at random because the treaty failed to mention the proper ratio of crumpets to milk during tea time. Because of this grave oversight the treaty was obviously invalid and continued attacks therefore justified.(click to show/hide)
You are correct Mike. Remnant and Astralis were at peace when Shik attacked and took control of Mazen.
or you know, shik breaking neutrality :/
July 27th, Shik attacks Mazen and takes over the village, all while flying the Remnant banners. July 28th Remnant declares they are neutral in the war.
I just want to clear up the thing about the trade goods. I never said that Shik was carrying trade goods. I said that he was going to dump off some of the bullshit gear we had (Straw Hats, Cudgels, Pitchforks) and pick up some stuff from the members at Ismirala. I had mentioned that Chesty was in Ismirala getting ready for a trade goods run down by you guys which may have been misunderstood as Shik being the one with the trade goods. I can honestly say we had no intention of giving our shit away to anyone but ourselves. I'm not trying to stir the pot back up just trying to straighten some things out.
Way too much anger, butthurt, and drama in this thread.
I was indisposed on Friday and unable to command the battle, I appreciate those that stepped in my place to try and avenge some justice for the people of Mazen.
It is confirmed there were no trade goods on Shik as we were told on Friday (Devilize was told by some Remnants). Here's how the events unfolded in my mind:
July 27th, Shik attacks Mazen and takes over the village, all while flying the Remnant banners. July 28th Remnant declares they are neutral in the war. Apparently on August 1st an agreement was made between Occitan/Hospitallers, and Remnant accepting their neutrality. Why Mazen/shik wasn't discussed in this (or why it wasn't brought up with HATE) is beyond me, but that was a mistake.
On the morning of August 2nd I saw SHIK was trying to cross the western bridge from TKOV to ex-FIDLGB lands, but I was blocking his path along with another knight of the Hospitallers (Havoc). I made the decision to attack him (not knowing about this "treaty" with Remnant). Any treaty that did not address SHIK or Mazen, is no treaty at all. That should have been obvious to Remnant that we (us, or our allies) would retake Mazen because it belongs to Astralis.
If I had to do it again, I would have made sure the "treaty" included language about SHIK and Mazen, however mistakes happen. The important thing is that we got it right, and that SHIK paid for his treachery (although he escaped before the battle started) and Mazen will be given back to Astralis. Treaty be damned, that was the right thing to do. And I'm glad I did attack his army, because there were no trade goods on him, as we were told there was, and that he was simply transporting trade goods to market to sell them was a lie by Remnant diplomats.
in other news, how come half of ATS joined remnant and the other half...just kinda like became...something.
Issue with activity on Crpg and strat.
The ATS members playing Crpg everyday wanted more active players to play with (so signed up with Remnant) and the other half (the more casual players) remained on ATS vent to keep playing various other games with the same folk or sometimes getting on crpg. Depends on the mood and who's online. :P
Most just waiting for Guild Wars 2 to release... or in my case, the next Line Battle on Napoleonic wars. :mrgreen:
You stop the madness right naow and get back on crpg!
must've been some serious drama involved
oh look, blackzilla rhalzo syls etc - and + posts according to their war status. How unexpected.
Short/long story.About sauce treaty it is true that we had a agrement between remnant and hospitaller/occitan for a trade run going afther mazen was taken. Sauce asked to show good faith before doing anything future. Afther that agrement i personaly ask the following faction to do not attack remnant chestaclese(the trader) and anyone from remnant faction:Crusader/astralis ourself(hospitaller/occitan)In that time shik has remnant tag. He was heading at that time into fidlgb castle to do something that only shik(his leader) know. Hospitaller decide they wont get fuck over once more by shik since he is what he is....And We broke the treaty we made out with Sauceofremnant.
So afther all im just here to say both side are rigth and wrong in a way and yes hospitaller/occitan broke a treaty with remnant.
We cant say if it is the same for remnant cause we decide to take the move and attack first.
End of story Not here to make any drama just saying fact.
Sorry for all the mistakes. English isn't my first language(everyone should know by now) and anyways im pretty sure i do worst in my own so Sorry!
oh look, blackzilla rhalzo syls etc - and + posts according to their war status. How unexpected.Agree with Egan, his post doesn't make sense, But hey, I guess someones renown and infamy is important to you.
oh look, blackzilla rhalzo syls etc - and + posts according to their war status. How unexpected.
/thread. Good luck to both clans next strat.