And PS your topic title is wrong you ask a question about United States then in your thread you talk about 'America' which implies a continent of several countries. I hope you are proud of your obama education.US is known as America. Citizens are americans....
America is only good because they had the resources to powerhouse their way into the industrial manufacturing epicenter of the western world around the 20th century. Now America has lost that title and is little more than a economic/scientific power... which is getting beaten on both those fronts by China and EU.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americasyou should read that too "The Americas, or America, are lands in the Western hemisphere, also known as the New World.
you should read that too "The Americas, or America, are lands in the Western hemisphere, also known as the New World.
In the English language, the Americas refers to the landmasses of North America and South America with their associated islands and regions, whereas America, in current usage, usually refers to the United States of America."
LOL whatever you say champ. Its different to say United state of america, then saying 'America'.you gave me a website. I showed you it agreed with me. Get owned
sorry but last time I checked EU was in the worst of the shit storm. China leading the way out COMMUNISM FTW.
My shame is being an American. My pride is being a New Yorker.
New York - the greatest nation in the world!
America is only good because they had the resources to powerhouse their way into the industrial manufacturing epicenter of the western world around the 20th century. Now America has lost that title and is little more than a economic/scientific power... which is getting beaten on both those fronts by China and EU.Idiot we have 6 stage missle defense system aswell as 2 destroers in the task force dedicated to anti-missle defense...
America has a pretty sweet and modern military, though... although the best American weapon (the aircraft carrier) is countered by this crazy accurate anti-ship missile that China developed sometime last year that can hit a moving target the size of a cruiser from 2,000 miles away. So... yeah.
America has the most ubiqtious pop culture, I guess. There's that claim to fame.
The US is in no way better than any "3rd world shit hole"The US controls the "PATRIOT" missal defense system. We can turn it off and nuke you so stfu you comie ass hole.
US is just a bunch of retarded patriots and country homos, noone likes them, noone needs them...
The US has a fucking amazing navy and the aircraft carrier has three different defense weapons to shoot down missiles aimed at it. One is a long range missile another is a medium range barrage of smaller missiles and another is a massive gatling aimed by a computer that literally spits out a laser beam of lead to shoot down missiles at close range. Any one of these can shoot down a missile and they have several of these all over the ship. When it comes to military no one comes close to matching the US.
Though our education system is really shitty....
So you're saying that the EU is the worst of the lot (China, USA, EU) in regards to scientific progress?in terms of economy which relates to the amount of further advancement available. But yes i know that Europe has made great strides in the fields of science.
If an aircraft carrier is so impervious, explain to me why the American navy was recalled from training in the waters off of Korea? Just kidding. I don't need you to explain it - it's because China will fuck your shit with this:There lead paint bomb will be fucked by the MISSLE DEFENSE SYSTEM YOU FUCKING IDIOT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimitz_class_aircraft_carrier plus the aircraft carrier has a nucleor powerplant aswell as nuclear warheads in it's magazines and if one of those chink assholes manages to swim up and blow up the ship (witch will never happen) it would essentoly be setting off a Small Nuke offshore witch would pollute there water and the fallout would drift ashore and reak havoc. PLUS WE CONTROL THE WORLDS NUKE DEFENSE SYSTEM! Don't get me started on military comparisons... I am a military buff and I will kick your ass in a debate you comie sucking asshole. Don't take this personal but Go fuck yourself.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204397704577074631582060996.html
There lead paint bomb will be fucked by the MISSLE DEFENSE SYSTEM YOU FUCKING IDIOT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimitz_class_aircraft_carrier plus the aircraft carrier has a nucleor powerplant aswell as nuclear warheads in it's magazines and if one of those chink assholes manages to swim up and blow up the ship (witch will never happen) it would essentoly be setting off a Small Nuke offshore witch would pollute there water and the fallout would drift ashore and reak havoc. PLUS WE CONTROL THE WORLDS NUKE DEFENSE SYSTEM! Don't get me started on military comparisons... I am a military buff and I will kick your ass in a debate you comie sucking asshole. Don't take this personal but Go fuck yourself.
The chinese are adapting a doctrine using satellite guided missiles, submarines, and electronic warfare to really put the damper on the "American Way."HAHAHAHAHA WE HAVE TE TOMAHAWK MISSAL! During operation Iraqi Freedom and Desert Storm we used the missals to destroy Iraqi missal batteries with GPS coordinates from OUR MASSIVELY SUPERIOR SATALITE SYSTEM. The us Airforce controls satilite traffic and if you google are system we actually have Ground and Air launched (as well as sea launched) anti satalite missals. If WW3 came through we could destroy every other country's satalites and then systematically destroy Chinas infrastructure with Sub launched Tomhawks while the current attack subs have never been tracked by another country. Google that comie. The US Navy owns 8 Aircraft carriers... But geuss what! We also own Subs capable of hitting %78 of the worlds landmass while safley submerged at deep water. Aircraft carriers are just cheaper then launching 100million doaller missiles!
Which is parking aircraft carriers offshore third world nations and bombarding them with overwhelming force when they can't fight back.
And for the price of 1 carrier battle group you could probably send hundreds of these missiles at once to high priority targets, pretty much completely denying the seas ~2000 miles around China.
Whether or not everything is operational by the Chinese or theory crafting and propaganda.. well that's for the CIA to know I suppose.
Thinking that our naval and aviation superiority we enjoyed for the past 50 years is a guarantee in modern war is a mistake that could cost untold amounts of lives.
And honestly, the amount of money we pour into our navy is retarded. The way of the future is flying death robots, and I applaud Obama for embracing drone strikes as much as he has. We need to get those drones down to Mexico and blow up some motherfucking cartels too.
lol whatWRONG WRONG WRONG. We lost Vietnam because them Chinks wheren't an actual enemy. The fucking Hippys at home lost us thew war. The k/d record and considering we never lost a major battle make us losing Vietnam and Iraqi a loss. COnsidering we reinstated the Iraqi police force and are now COMPLETLY underemplod from that country and there stable proves your ignorant ill informed ass wrong. Your an idiot if you think that generlly. WE HAVE 0 COMBAT FORCES IN IRAQI AND THERE STABLE
edit: I hope you do realize this kind of invincible God-Wills-It attitude is what led to the debacles of Vietnam and Afghanistan. Iraq was a tour de force of American blitzkireg but our political and ethno-cultural failures in understanding the region or having real strategy is a huge embarrassment, and whatever fraught peace has been achieved there was founded on ethnic cleansing.
A 5 billion dollar ship can get hit by a missile and sink just like any other ship or base. You aren't going to stop a barrage of satellite guided missiles and next-generation diesel-electric submarines (that we can't detect) from eventually hitting their target.
HAHAHAHAHA WE HAVE TE TOMAHAWK MISSAL! During operation Iraqi Freedom and Desert Storm we used the missals to destroy Iraqi missal batteries with GPS coordinates from OUR MASSIVELY SUPERIOR SATALITE SYSTEM. The us Airforce controls satilite traffic and if you google are system we actually have Ground and Air launched (as well as sea launched) anti satalite missals. If WW3 came through we could destroy every other country's satalites and then systematically destroy Chinas infrastructure with Sub launched Tomhawks while the current attack subs have never been tracked by another country. Google that comie. The US Navy owns 8 Aircraft carriers... But geuss what! We also own Subs capable of hitting %78 of the worlds landmass while safley submerged at deep water. Aircraft carriers are just cheaper then launching 100million doaller missiles!
Not only that are Air force can gain air superiority within a few weeks of the world. And are ground forces can deploy to any country anywhere within 78hours with divisional size. (Desert Shield was proof)
What's the point of talking about an US - China war anyway?I know we are codependent economys. They rely on trading stock and goods to the US while we rely on thier cheap labor and goods. The Chinese and the US are the only remaining Super Powers that's why this hypothetical came up. China is Capitalist not Communist and honestly is just like North Korea. They look hard to the outside world but are still Poor and crazy as fuck on the inside! Kony 2012
China has no interest in a conflict like that.
Same for the United States.
Both countries wouldn't gain a damn thing.
Okay Tom Clancy. Wake me up when America annihilates the entire world with nuclear armageddon.FIRST OF ALL A LARGE SCALE WAR WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN! And back to the point... The USAF tactic of "Kill Box" superiority paired with the F-22 and F-38 would completely decimate the enemy. As well as the fact that we would simply use cruise missal to destroy there major air facilities. The first day air superiority doesn't mean the first day of combat but rather the first day of engagement. The Iraqi airforce was the 3rd largest in the worlds. First day of Desert Shields air deployment the few aircraft they had left were decimated.
Modern nations know America's tricks. China's doctrine going forward is basically to counter every thing we consider routine. You aren't gonna achieve air and naval superiority overnight when a technologically advanced asymmetical opponent can strike with undetectable submarines and ballistic and cruise missiles at any of our forward bases or ships.
Here's a study done by the USN and the USAF that I haven't read yet. Our military is currently and aggressively reevaulating our entire approach to a conflict of this scope.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CE8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.csbaonline.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F05%2F2010.05.18-AirSea-Battle.pdf&ei=TFG8T6S3K9DngQfMvbysDw&usg=AFQjCNHi9KSBUI_eutv0nsgL5mzxMo4sgg
And here's an article going over the evolution of our doctrine, in meeting the threat of "anti-access/area-denial" which is basically a USA vs China scenario.
http://csis.org/publication/emerging-anti-accessarea-denial-challenge
*meanwhile in Canada*We do need that Maple Syrup to feed are armys! Thank's Canada for always being there for us!
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I'd rather live in the US/Canada than in some 3rd world country.
Nukes are more like status symbols anyway.Speaking of Nukes there is quite a few prominent Japanese Scientist that had small proof and many eyewitness of the fact that the Japanese nuclear bomb program successively tested a nuke before the US. The entirety of North Korea was dedicated to Japans Weapon manufacture and Development during WW2 and before the iron curtain covered up the remaining evidence the Japanese and OSS destroyed all scientfic research documents. VERY VERY interesting research papers on that are out. I saw a online seminar about it and it was quite interesting how well the US covered up the technology of the Japanese before and after ww2.
Anyone sane knows that if he becomes "button happy", it would lead to retaliation strikes all over the globe.
That's why nobody (besides USA on Japan) ever used it.
And even that one was more like a "threat" to the Soviets back then, to see what weapons they've got at their disposal.
Needless to say that it was uncalled for, but in war, sadly the everyday people are the real losers, and there is no good side.
We do need that Maple Syrup to feed are armys! Thank's Canada for always being there for us!
Nukes are more like status symbols anyway.
Anyone sane knows that if he becomes "button happy", it would lead to retaliation strikes all over the globe.
That's why nobody (besides USA on Japan) ever used it.
And even that one was more like a "threat" to the Soviets back then, to see what weapons they've got at their disposal.
Needless to say that it was uncalled for, but in war, sadly the everyday people are the real losers, and there is no good side.
*brofist*
Actually, a ground invasion of Japan would probably have cost more both in money and life spent, perhaps the 2nd nuke was overkill, but the first one seemed like the lesser of 2 evils, mind you, I am not sure if people knew the long lasting effects of nukes back then.
*brofist*Bob fun fact. The actual reason the Japonese surrenederd there mainland to the US was because they didn't want Japan sepereated by Russia and the United states. They surrenederd the day the Russians captured Manchuria. The Nukes were just a good propaganda scheme by the US. The Russians were promised a even share in Japans mainland the min we woulda landed on Toyota beach (We named all the planned beaches after Jap car company's). Look it up Im don't believe in conspiracy but I do believe in ex OSS members! Google and hours of boardem = Google this shit!
Actually, a ground invasion of Japan would probably have cost more both in money and life spent, perhaps the 2nd nuke was overkill, but the first one seemed like the lesser of 2 evils, mind you, I am not sure if people knew the long lasting effects of nukes back then.
I believe the Purple Hearts that were made in preperation for Operation Downfall (mainland invasion of Japan) are still being handed out to wounded veterans today, since we were estimating more casualties in those battles then have happened in all of history since.I watched ever "The Pacific" and it is one of my favorite HBO series (love the MG part in like the 2nd one where he kill like 65 Japs cause it was based on a real story!). But if you add up all the American losses in the Pacific theater it wouldn't match the losses of the BATTLE of Kursk! haha The loses wern't are issue! It was the Russians! Don't believe that bull cfapo they tell you in school it is just BS
If you want to read a very interesting first-hand account of being a Marine grunt in the Pacific during WW2, I recommend reading With The Old Breed. It was one of the sources for the great HBO miniseries "The Pacific" and is probably the most vivid, honest, and downright disturbing depiction of war on that scale. The guy, Eugene Sledge, was a mortar man for the battles of Peleliu and Okinawa, and he spares the reader nothing. If you read it, you can start to appreciate saving millions more Americans and Japanese lives from enduring that kind barbarism.
The Russians could of won by themselfs (With are hardware).
Considering America already fire bombed 90 percent of Japanese cities to literal dust and was starving millions from their blockade, I imagine civilian morale was quite low. The military leaders on the other hand.. even until the end, some were ready to coup the Emperor to continue fighting after the second nuke. It just made strategic sense at the time in the "strategic air bombing" campaign we were waging to use the most efficient force possible to spare American resources, lives, and end the war as fast as possible.War ending as fast as possible was the main goal exactly! Human loss wasn't at all the issue or we wouldn't of Firebombed Japanese citys. In fact a raid of Firebombing on Tokyo actually caused more death then the Nuke on Nagasaki. But Japan and the US both didn't want the Russians gaining the Main Japanese islands.
Of course.Yeah I agree compeltly. (The chocolate chip cookies woulda made a beatiful country anyway... Minus the hole Jew and Black and non democratic parts) Churchill actually wanted to go to war with Russia and if he was relected before Postdan it's very likley we would of because he was outraged at the Russians contuining to attack the surrenedering Japanese and storiming into North Korea and other previously British/French teritorys. But Rosevlt actually didn't mind communism but he was more interested in gaining Pacific and Atlantic powers and at the time the very isolationist theory of the Evils in EU are the EUs problems not ares.
The Allies (Especially US) were afraid of a Soviet controlled Europe in my opinion, that's why they stepped in and landed on the West.
If you think about it from a humane point of things, D-Day and all of that was unnecessary deaths on the Western Front.
But if it doesn't happen, then there would've been more soviet puppet-states later on, I think.
I wonder what would happen if the US went to war with the EU.
the real question is.. why is Gomer not muted? A little knowledge is sooo dangerous.Im Un-muted because chadz secretly loves Trolls. I bring the community together with the hatred of me. Otherwise they would all fight and cRPG would fall apart. I am taking one for the team... Thank me later
US would take out its super über secret weapon of doom and rape everyone.Secret weapon? Charlie Sheen. We send him in and inject him with Aids. Two days later half your population is infected. One year later there dead. We win USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
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China would completely decimate the US in a war.
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Well this well formed and intelectual debate has clearly been de-railed.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_World)
The title clearly states "Third-World shit holes" yet im pretty sure most of the discussion has been between us lucky enough to be sipping tea and eating muffins in the First World. For those who are looking to contribute to this magnificent thread please make sure you live within the red part of this handy map...
First World: the United States and its allies.
Second World: the Soviet Union, China, and their allies.
Third World: neutral and non-aligned countries.
China would completely decimate the US in a war.
I may be horrid at typing but i'm wonderful at fucking your two mothers. (Bring back mother jokes)
Im sure Gomers on going comparison between his glorious country and Africa will continue to be just as ground breaking and for those who wish to keep up with the discussion, I have created this handy short hand version of my highlights thus far...
Now get back to the debate! I cant wait to see what the Greenland C-RPG community has to say about this!
Thrilling stuff!
America sucks only because of idiots like Gomer who think they are the center of the world.Go fuck yourself and get off my topic you mother fucking hippy humping liberal. Go occupy my ass my old friendot.
I'm pretty sure Derby is talking about
On the other hand, the United Nations defined the First World on the wealth of the nation's Gross National Product (GNP). The definition of First World is now less concrete than during the Cold War.
this. And I think most people think of first world and third world comparisons like that instead of "U.S' allies"
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HAHAHAHAHA WE HAVE TE TOMAHAWK MISSAL! During operation Iraqi Freedom and Desert Storm we used the missals to destroy Iraqi missal batteries with GPS coordinates from OUR MASSIVELY SUPERIOR SATALITE SYSTEM. The us Airforce controls satilite traffic and if you google are system we actually have Ground and Air launched (as well as sea launched) anti satalite missals. If WW3 came through we could destroy every other country's satalites and then systematically destroy Chinas infrastructure with Sub launched Tomhawks while the current attack subs have never been tracked by another country. Google that comie. The US Navy owns 8 Aircraft carriers... But geuss what! We also own Subs capable of hitting %78 of the worlds landmass while safley submerged at deep water. Aircraft carriers are just cheaper then launching 100million doaller missiles!
Not only that are Air force can gain air superiority within a few weeks of the world. And are ground forces can deploy to any country anywhere within 78hours with divisional size. (Desert Shield was proof)
When talking about a war between two true superpowers comparing convential forces is futile, nuclear missiles is where its at. Doubt we'll ever see such a war though, everyone understand the costs are too great without there being a lot of gain.
Gomer I'm beginning to think you are drunk 24/7 when writing on the forums. Certainly seems like it, at least.
Either that or his IQ is incredibly low, like someone smashed him in the back of the head with a cinderblock repeatedly. It's concerning, but I suspect the latter.
Well your shithole is better on doing crimes and eating hamburgers, but you voted Winland as best country in the world so i have to say that nothing usefull in america is not better then in winland
http://www.finland.org/Public/default.aspx?contentid=198513&nodeid=35833&culture=en-US
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/08/15/interactive-infographic-of-the-worlds-best-countries.html
2 years old but still..
Failland. Only things i can think bout that is that they got trolled by failed ruski drunk commis and swedes. Oh and they're like the #1 most legitimately racist country in the world.stop the BS, u just mad cos we ain't gay like you, our gay neightbours and WE got "trolled" not any more. from poor land owned by ruskis and gays to the best country, not bad at all.
And their music sucks.
The US controls the "PATRIOT" missal defense system. We can turn it off and nuke you so stfu you comie ass hole.
stop the BS, u just mad cos we ain't gay like you, our gay neightbours and WE got "trolled" not any more. from poor land owned by ruskis and gays to the best country, not bad at all.Wei call things in their real name/words !!!you fucking n**k*ri
Stop being mad. Finn teenagers and koskenkorva is obviously not a good combo. I mean look atchuuuuuMeh, no koskenkorva today u sweidhs pussy. i was watchung ozzy osbourne at Helsinkii, i maybe drank some beers, 7-8 can't remembrr
Soldiers don't go down there waving flags and spreading (All-American) happiness. They're soldiers.
They kill, rape and pillage, that's what soldiers do.
Some do some don't generalisations are bad, they also tend to killing armed people, tend, not always.
Okay, let me rephrase:
They are there to kill,rape, and pillage. That is what you send soldiers to do.
Soldiers of the Western armies really don't.. rape and pillage all that much. There are some incidents but it's far from what they're "sent to do."
And money's useless if you can't get it to reach those who need it, Africa springs to mind here.
And money's useless if you can't get it to reach those who need it, Africa springs to mind here.
Canadian :P
What do you know about anything the telurvishun doesn't tell you? Africa is not the only continent that is ridden with poverty, you know...Serra Leon is considered the richest country in the world due to resources on paper yet there people are also some of the poorest. They have Diamonds,Crome,Zerconium,gold and just about everything shiny and valuable. Yet there considered an improvrished country. Don't send them money send them mother fucking politics!
Preaching "send dem moniez to afrikuh bkuz dey need it mor den we dou" doesn't make you sound educated. You're just another tape recorder on repeat, like so many of your people.
Wikipedia says that the US spent about 700 billion dollars on their military in 2010. 700 billion... That's hypothetically 350 dollars each if you'd give it to the 2 billion poorest people in the world. A dollar a day, barely enough to get through but still. Imagine what good it could do instead of these stupid "wars".Stop with your hippy shit and think logically. We will not downgrade are military.
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Africa is VERY RICH in resourcesSoon all the resources are owned by Americans, after war against "kony". 8-)
Soon all the resources are owned by Americans, after war against "kony". 8-)America is to Pussy to fight my 12 year old army
Subjective rant then, if you'd like.
But just plain obvious to me.
It's anything but obvious, Dezi. You do realize how the organization of Western militaries work? They're also made of normal people. And you think it wouldn't leak all the time if entire units were told to rape and pillage? Have you talked with any professional military people who were deployed in a war? Did they tell you how they were raping and pillaging?There is currently a documentary on just this subject area. It was on the pentagon channel (Military Channel for you scrubs). It was on a solider during the serge and how his unit would simple execute people do drugs rape and pillage and how gangs were rampant during "The serge" and the heat of combat in Iraq where one officer was in charge of 100+ soldiers. Western military's such as ours obviously with are massive scale there is bound to have a few crazy ass people but there bound to be caught. Im tired and high more explanation. later
gomer 1 questionI have 2 dads
r ur mom and dad brother n sister? serously
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsgaFKwUA6g
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Have you talked with any professional military people who were deployed in a war? Did they tell you how they were raping and pillaging?Maybe he talked to them Japs in WW2.
But no one is willing to step in and do that. Every one else benefits from Africa being at the bottom of the scale.