29.11. to 5.12.
Others: 84 (0.06%)
29.11. to 5.12.
One handed: 29312 (20.39%)
Two handed: 43827 (30.49%)
Polearms: 40093 (27.89%)
Bow: 13055 (9.08%)
Crossbows: 6636 (4.62%)
Thrown: 2792 (1.94%)
Headshot: 5686 (3.96%)
Horsebump: 2271 (1.58%)
Others: 84 (0.06%)
Teamkills: 4955 (3.45%)
29.11. to 5.12.
One handed: 29312 (20.39%)
Two handed: 43827 (30.49%)
Polearms: 40093 (27.89%)
Bow: 13055 (9.08%)
Crossbows: 6636 (4.62%)
Thrown: 2792 (1.94%)
Headshot: 5686 (3.96%)
Horsebump: 2271 (1.58%)
Others: 84 (0.06%)
Teamkills: 4955 (3.45%)
I never understood the point of using frag count statistics to determine whether buffing/nerfing is necessary.
I never understood why people think we use frag count statistics to determine whether buffing/nerfing is necessary.
If you look at the OP, he asked about quantity, nothing about buffing/nerfing here.
If crossbows got buffed and actually had a skill similar to PD for them to upgrade in order to use crossbows and be stronger but also making stronger sidearms less viable(powerful polearms, 2handers, shield and sword ect.), then you would see crossbow kills go up and 2 hander kills go down.It sounds like you're suggesting a buff to crossbows would be good, but I'm not sure. While it's true that with a buff, crossbow kills would go up and melee kills wound go down by about the same number of kills, you would also have an abundance of overpowered melee/crossbow hybrids.
I never understood why people think we use frag count statistics to determine whether buffing/nerfing is necessary.
If you look at the OP, he asked about quantity, nothing about buffing/nerfing here.
It sounds like you're suggesting a buff to crossbows would be good, but I'm not sure. While it's true that with a buff, crossbow kills would go up and melee kills wound go down by about the same number of kills, you would also have an abundance of overpowered melee/crossbow hybrids.
BTW, what category do gravity kills counts as? 84 seems too small a number for deaths by gravity.
29.11. to 5.12.
One handed: 29312 (20.39%)
Two handed: 43827 (30.49%)
Polearms: 40093 (27.89%)
Bow: 13055 (9.08%)
Crossbows: 6636 (4.62%)
Thrown: 2792 (1.94%)
Headshot: 5686 (3.96%)
Horsebump: 2271 (1.58%)
Others: 84 (0.06%)
Teamkills: 4955 (3.45%)
Fasader mad cause it is known that xbowmen always put 1 bolt into enemy and then finish off in melee. In truth they have 60% kills. That's also why 2h kills are so high. Pure 2h is horrible underpowered or like Thomek rightfully put it, dying out slowly.
Also xbowcav is a joke pls remove.
Archers kill me in melee more often than a crossbowman. I get 2-3 hit by archers with a mace/1h weapons and crossbowmans take the same amount of hits to kill me.
Archers and crossbowman use the same tactic: shoot once, take out melee weapon.
lol.. I said Ninjas were dying out :) not 2h.
IDK why but zero leet archers were on tonight. Also, I noticed u have 17 ping paul. Of course any fast weapon will be spammy with that ping and that build.. :rolleyes: Even you fell for a simple kinngrimm (10ping) left slash, so there you have it. I do understand your pov.
Last night was KMC, Nebun, Radh, Tybox, Pawlo and one more grey I can't remember on at the same time. Poland vs Russia Archery contest. All of them have full bow and arrow looms and do know how to shoot. I seemed to die from ranged every single round...
Also, back to OP. Yes too many xbows (because they CAN and because peeps want to counter Archers). Also xbowcav is a joke pls remove. Also, cav needs nerf because their retarded lances do too much damage as in 1 shotting people. Which is simply not fun for anyone.
Throwing needs buff. And horsebump.
29.11. to 5.12.
One handed: 29312 (20.39%)
Two handed: 43827 (30.49%)
Polearms: 40093 (27.89%)
Bow: 13055 (9.08%)
Crossbows: 6636 (4.62%)
Thrown: 2792 (1.94%)
Headshot: 5686 (3.96%)
Horsebump: 2271 (1.58%)
Others: 84 (0.06%)
Teamkills: 4955 (3.45%)
I never understood why people think we use frag count statistics to determine whether buffing/nerfing is necessary.
Archers and crossbowman use the same tactic: shoot once, take out melee weapon.
Actually, while crossbowmen do use that tactic, only archers with balls do the same. Unfortunately, ball-less archers are the common folk around, so you can see them employing the run-like-a-chicken tactic far more often.Xbowmen don't need to put point in PD, they have more skill point to put in melee fighting skill like PS/Shield.
Where the fuck have you been nemeth?
Xbowmen don't need to put point in PD, they have more skill point to put in melee fighting skill like PS/Shield.
I can reassure you, I never thought you used frag count statistics to determine balancing.
I always thought you didn't use anything and did it by instinct. Numbers are boring.
and you keep failing...
and you keep failing...
And you keep playing...
Since you guys are always eager to show kill statistics when you need to prove a point, how about you post average player count per day on all servers for last 30 days and compare it with same stats from year before (or six months before)?
Out of curiosity; how would that prove (or not prove) archers getting framed?
29.11. to 5.12.
One handed: 29312 (20.39%)
Two handed: 43827 (30.49%)
Polearms: 40093 (27.89%)
Bow: 13055 (9.08%)
Crossbows: 6636 (4.62%)
Thrown: 2792 (1.94%)
Headshot: 5686 (3.96%)
Horsebump: 2271 (1.58%)
Others: 84 (0.06%)TeamkillsHuey Newton: 4955 (3.45%)
Teamkills: 4955 (3.45%)
29.11. to 5.12.
One handed: 29312 (20.39%)
Two handed: 43827 (30.49%)
Polearms: 40093 (27.89%)
Bow: 13055 (9.08%)
Crossbows: 6636 (4.62%)
Thrown: 2792 (1.94%)
Headshot: 5686 (3.96%)
Horsebump: 2271 (1.58%)
Others: 84 (0.06%)
Teamkills: 4955 (3.45%)
The only possibility i can think up with by 'others' is mountless horses bumpkilling people.
Falls use the headshot icon, mountless horses use the horse bump icon. "Others" are probably just kicks and punches.
In both cases, crossbows need a buff.
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how about you post average player count per day on all servers for last 30 days and compare it with same stats from year before (or six months before)?
In both cases, crossbows need a buff.I swear to god.... Stop... Stop changing things. The rop in population is your sudden impulses to change everything. You can't perfectly balance everything. STOP The way the game was befor the current patch was fine. But with archer nerf it's alright. LEAVE IT THE FUCK ALONE. Please please man. NO
And prove that the major released games caused a hit in player count?^This but change it to Hospitaller.
Besides, the Fallen are already starting to get our people back.
I would be more interested in data a month or two from now after the latest game craze is dead.
I swear to god.... Stop... Stop changing things. The rop in population is your sudden impulses to change everything. You can't perfectly balance everything. STOP The way the game was befor the current patch was fine. But with archer nerf it's alright. LEAVE IT THE FUCK ALONE. Please please man. NO
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Have your own ranged units keep them occupied. Or send a shield wall (with 2h's and polearms behind) to take them out.Oh my god....This aint fuckin total war. If I am a 2h, I don't have anything to expect from my fellow ranged. They wont shoot the guys that are making the 2h's get raped. Just as I wont protect archers.
Oh my god....This aint fuckin total war. If I am a 2h, I don't have anything to expect from my fellow ranged. They wont shoot the guys that are making the 2h's get raped. Just as I wont protect archers.
You aren't playing with controllable teammates, they are a bunch of morons trying to get kills.
"The path of righteous balance is beset on all sides, by the ineqieties of whiners and the tyranny of trolls. Blessed is he who, in the name of archery and good will, shephards the players through a forum of rage.
For he is truly his borther's keeper and the finder of future fun.
And I will remove these idiotes with great vengeance and furious anger. Those who attempt to poison and destroy cRPG.
And you will know that balance will be achieved, when I lay my vengeance upon thee"
Oh my god....This aint fuckin total war. If I am a 2h, I don't have anything to expect from my fellow ranged. They wont shoot the guys that are making the 2h's get raped. Just as I wont protect archers.
You aren't playing with controllable teammates, they are a bunch of morons trying to get kills.
There we have it. Proof that 2h is OP and should be nerfed until the cows come home. IT WON'T MAKE THE COW FAT!
its pronounced FA.G.CHERS
That's not true. Not all, but some pubbers play in the team aspect.
Maybe if there were more open field battles on the public servers it would force people to use teamwork more often (instead of using buildings for cover against ranged and cavalry).
All teamwork between pubbies boils down to camping a hill/other defensible position with pikes and ranged. And attacking that (or for me, even being on the same team as the people doing that) is one of the least fun things in this game, so no please don't add in more random plains maps because that is all that happens after the first couple rounds.
I hope you do realize, that unlike archers, xbowers have the ability to be effective in melee right? So count some melee kills for xbowers too. ktybai
Think you devs should play more, instead of looking at some numbers.
Taking just 1 bag of arrows won't hurt you and you will be able to take langes messer which is really dangerous weapon in proper hands.
It's like beating a dead horse around here...
29.11. to 5.12.
One handed: 29312 (20.39%)
Two handed: 43827 (30.49%)
Polearms: 40093 (27.89%)
Bow: 13055 (9.08%)
Crossbows: 6636 (4.62%)
Thrown: 2792 (1.94%)
Headshot: 5686 (3.96%)
Horsebump: 2271 (1.58%)
Others: 84 (0.06%)
Teamkills: 4955 (3.45%)
Just because archers kill more or deal more damage or whatever, doesn't mean there are more archers. Go to a battleserver at the moment, usually you have almost twice as many guys using a crossbow than a normal bow. Everyone can shoot around with a crossbow, thing is most of them do not have skill.I say the reason archers do more damage is that we are constantly attacking. We are always hitting horses we are always shooting. While as a foot solider will on hit say 10 times a round and there is a large amount of time walking and maneuvering between those hits. I would also like to add that archers should be better then crossbow wielding monkeys that have access to melee combat aswell. Committed Crossbowmen when they are skilled are evenly matched. Though they are alot more expensive and therefor you don't see many of them.
I think you have more guys going full archer and little going full crossbow, but still there are many many hybrids with crossbows and I think the number of guys using a crossbow is still higher of those being full archers.
But, full archers have the skill, because shooting is most of what they do and they have the looms etc etc, thus they deal more damage ;)
Most crossbowguys are noobs, you can always say when they will shoot when you have a rangedduel with them. Whereas they always miss you get the chance to kill them one by one. ---> lots of crossbowguys, but more damage done by archers, because we have skill and will rule da world once 8-)
The only possibility i can think up with by 'others' is mountless horses bumpkilling people.nah, that's still horsebump.
nah, that's still horsebump.Do TK's count positive? If so that's why archers have the most Kills :P Damn Equip screen....
Others is unarmed, that is punches and kicks. (except for kicking someone down a wall, that's under headshot)
Suicides don't get counted in the script.
Two bags of arrows are even more dangerous in proper hands for a dedicated build spending most or all points on PD and WM. One bag instead of two would not allow me to freely and aggressively hunt horses and high priority targets like I do now.
Do TK's count positive? If so that's why archers have the most Kills :P Damn Equip screen....
Two bags of arrows are even more dangerous in proper hands for a dedicated build spending most or all points on PD and WM. One bag instead of two would not allow me to freely and aggressively hunt horses and high priority targets like I do now.
29.11. to 5.12.
One handed: 29312 (20.39%)
Two handed: 43827 (30.49%)
Polearms: 40093 (27.89%)
Bow: 13055 (9.08%)
Crossbows: 6636 (4.62%)
Thrown: 2792 (1.94%)
Headshot: 5686 (3.96%)
Horsebump: 2271 (1.58%)
Others: 84 (0.06%)
Teamkills: 4955 (3.45%)
Pls buff archery...