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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: BattalGazi on November 28, 2011, 08:36:27 pm

Title: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: BattalGazi on November 28, 2011, 08:36:27 pm
I'm not writing this in a tone of aggression or favoring, this is just a summary of what has been done in the desert region. From all we have been through, I believe we, Kapikulu, at least has the right to let everyone know about it. I'm pretty sure that this topic will be massively trolled by some people of whom you know very well, and I totally would like them to do it as they will bump this for free and eventually more people will know this. Thanks in advance.

Ok, the initial plan in the desert was to form an alliance with us ( TheTurks ) , Byzantines , HRE, Fallen, Wolves and Templars to work together against the evil of the rest of other coalitions. And we did too. Every clan in this agreed on an alliance and held multiple meetings to discuss further plans.

It was going pretty good up to some point.

Then for some reason Byzantines deserted the desert and stopped playing strategus, I blame Skyrim for this.

After Byzantines left, an alliance agreement between us and Wolves & Templars are replenished to recover the lately lost power in the east block.

Then we learned that our dearest friends in Bashibazouks decided to attack as they have promised once. Even they have been raging against us, cursing, insulting, at least they kept their promises, this is one important thing. When they were at our doors, we summoned our allies help to the region. As promised once, due to alliance agreement; HRE, Wolves and Templars sent their supporting armies for reinforcement against the Bashibazouk battle.

The picture was looking bright for us as with the supporting armies of 3000 men, we could win over Bashi. But, unfortunately Wolves and Templars decided to desert their oath in their alliance and we were deceived. Currently their supporting armies are attacking us along with Bashi.

All in all, I have to admit that it was a good game played by Wolves & Templars, in behalf of Kapikulu I congratulate them. No matter how they feel sorry about this, I have to let people know about this. Because this is the only way we could do as our last response to what has been done.

We are still with our allies, we shall not deceive them. Although it is certain that this stand will lead us to our total elimination, we are happy to lose this turn by still keeping our oaths and promises we made. We die with honor !

Edit: Last Minute Addition: Yea I'm sorry to be the bad guy but this thread needs to have this information too.

After the betrayal, I was offered to stay in the region without any fiefs for some time, while Wolves&Templars were busy with destroying HRE & Fallen. And we recruiting troops in castles to support them while all this was happening to our only loyal allies. Eventually we might be offered a fief in the lands of the destroyed HRE. So a request for betraying our loyal allies and being loyal to our betrayers.

Sorry being like this, but community has to know.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Keshian on November 28, 2011, 08:38:42 pm
Nice to see some people willing to keep their word.  Good show!
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Nessaj on November 28, 2011, 09:00:17 pm
I feel a bit bad for you guys but kinda reap what you've sown. We've neither had the best experience with the Byzantine.

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^^ To the Byzantine for dragging us into non-aggression bs :evil: We had an extremely fun war going on in the Desert in the beginning, which I believe both sides enjoyed. They then arrange talks to forge a Peace Agreement (and alliance) between everyone in the Desert, without consulting us prior to instigating the discussion. Then quit Strat later. Good job. (We never joined anything, strict Independence, still are, as can be read above).
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: BattalGazi on November 28, 2011, 09:02:44 pm
Actually my point was to harass Wolves - Templars  :) Byzantines just deserted, not back-stabbed. But still, ye, sad situation is sad ...
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Kocik_4th on November 28, 2011, 09:05:59 pm
you deserved it cause you have the worst members, also they're retarded children who was born in 1995,1996
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on November 28, 2011, 09:10:01 pm
you deserved it cause you have the worst members, also they're retarded children who was born in 1995,1996

Your argument makes me think you are born in like 2000....wonder why?
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: okiN on November 28, 2011, 09:14:42 pm
While I'm glad that we didn't make the mistake of getting mixed up with you guys, I must say I'm surprised to see both Wolves and Templars sink this low. If you weren't serious about joining their alliance, you should have just kept the war going. This is a real bitch move.

And the funny thing is that just yesterday kinngrimm was asking us for a NAP, apparently worried that we would backstab them while they were fighting -- ostensibly against Bashi-Bazouks. Some joke! Why would we expect you to honor that agreement any better than you have this other one? :lol:
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Kocik_4th on November 28, 2011, 09:15:00 pm
Your argument makes me think you are born in like 2000....wonder why?
cuz you're on of them
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Osiris on November 28, 2011, 09:16:05 pm
first ive heard of it. Forgive me if i am wrong (which i might be if its uber top secret)

But the desert alliance is/was only signed by Crusaders and wolves

You are not and never have been in our allied or friendly status section of our forum and niether were byz so im not sure where this alliance was formed but it certainly hasnt been posted anywhere in this forum or ours. and Its the first we have heard of it at least :P (maybe alpha had so evil plan i dunno)

Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: ryanwilson140 on November 28, 2011, 09:16:52 pm
Trying to get factions to swap sides in wars is pretty risky business. I feel sorry that it did not work out for fallen and FCC this time. Such a shame. To bad you picked the wrong side to start with Battlegasi.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on November 28, 2011, 09:18:51 pm




The picture was looking bright for us as with the supporting armies of 3000 men, we could win over Bashi. But, unfortunately Wolves and Templars decided to desert their oath in their alliance and we were deceived. Currently their supporting armies are attacking us along with Bashi.


2 weeks ago one of kapıkulu officer said :
"Come to mawiti we will face with you ! Only kapıkulu will fight against you ! TRAITORS TO MOTHERLAND!!!"
then we came to habba, you run away =)
The picture is different which u dont want to see , u cried for help against us and u failed cos noone likes you or wants you.I think byzantium understand that its not wise to make alliance with you maybe =)

Let me clear that for you , 2000 bashibazouks waiting at tamnuh to reinforce us =) so the picture means for you :

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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Rhygar666 on November 28, 2011, 09:24:24 pm
damn Osiris, Im dissapointed (with you and the Templars, how could you be part of this, I have nothing more to say)
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Osiris on November 28, 2011, 09:24:57 pm
wut? its the first ive heard of it :P
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Rhygar666 on November 28, 2011, 09:26:10 pm
wut? its the first ive heard of it :P
still very dissapointed
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Osiris on November 28, 2011, 09:27:07 pm
your dissapointed? ive been in like 1 strat battle :P this trading crap has made it more like farm sim
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Thovex on November 28, 2011, 09:30:40 pm
your dissapointed? ive been in like 1 strat battle :P this trading crap has made it more like farm sim

 :lol:
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Rhygar666 on November 28, 2011, 09:33:37 pm
möp
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Casimir on November 28, 2011, 09:34:33 pm
This is why its always good to make things official.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Kansuke on November 28, 2011, 09:42:46 pm
i find it just ugly to fuck with the trust of those who reach out their hands in friendship.

The only thing I will say is "lulz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3n0vBcW5fc)"
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Rikthor on November 28, 2011, 09:44:56 pm
Templars, tucking tail and running from a fight? Why I never. Oh wait, last strat, nevermind.  :lol:

Glad to see Bashis still raging around, stomping kids and making other run away.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Casimir on November 28, 2011, 09:46:02 pm
If i remember we attacked LLJK even when we had lost all our villages...
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Rikthor on November 28, 2011, 09:49:56 pm
If i remember we attacked LLJK even when we had lost all our villages...

You tried to get in on the saturday morning gangbang with the other 4 armies involved in trying to knock us off the map in one day. Once we released Superior Goon Tactics™ and went 3-0, your armry trucked off across the map to get away from us. So yeah, no.

e: You never tried again, so sorry.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Casimir on November 28, 2011, 09:59:30 pm
I thought our army was destroyed but maybe im wrong, and yes after that ter would have been little point attacking you again.

Anyway, we have been working with hospitallers since the last strategus and our support of them has not stopped. I at no point have ever said that we would support a war against them and the Council never agreed to enter an alliance with Kapikulu, HRE or the accursed Fallen brigade.

The only thing i agreed upon was an end to hostilities with the nords and both parties have stuck to that arrangement.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Rubicon on November 28, 2011, 10:00:07 pm
Never heard of that guys, if it's real i blame alpha :P
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: okiN on November 28, 2011, 10:12:34 pm
The only thing i agreed upon was an end to hostilities with the nords and both parties have stuck to that arrangement.

So far, but all this damage control isn't doing you any favors. While the deals you guys made with the others don't concern us, we nevertheless heard you make them, and when you keep lying like this, I have to wonder how you can seriously expect us to trust you on anything. At least kinngrimm had the guts to admit that you'd pulled a total flim-flam. Based on the justifications/excuses he gave, as far as we know you still consider our lands Pecores territory.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on November 28, 2011, 10:22:03 pm
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THE BIG MIGRATION STARTED
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Rubicon on November 28, 2011, 10:22:56 pm
asfar as i know we aren't looking for favors, from anykind. especially from those who get fiefs by others works.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on November 28, 2011, 10:26:05 pm
id pick a bazouk over a crapikulu any day, thats my inner bandit speaking. I love bazouks (yes homo)
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Dezilagel on November 28, 2011, 10:44:24 pm
ISN'T IT OBVIOUS WHY THEY TURNED THEIR BACK ON YOU?

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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Casimir on November 28, 2011, 11:28:36 pm
So far, but all this damage control isn't doing you any favors. While the deals you guys made with the others don't concern us, we nevertheless heard you make them, and when you keep lying like this, I have to wonder how you can seriously expect us to trust you on anything. At least kinngrimm had the guts to admit that you'd pulled a total flim-flam. Based on the justifications/excuses he gave, as far as we know you still consider our lands Pecores territory.

As I said Okin i've agreed to nothing but that, the one meeting i was at with fallen this coalition i was willing to negotiate with them but as our system of leadership doesnt allow for easy desisions its quite hard for me to say much.

therefore if people want an official, binding agreement all they need to do is ask and i can see it done.

Also you language is threatening and that saddens me.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: okiN on November 28, 2011, 11:38:21 pm
Also you language is threatening and that saddens me.

Not threatening, just understand that after this display we'll trust you about as far as we can throw you. :lol:
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Casimir on November 28, 2011, 11:45:37 pm
Perhaps i'm just inferring threats then, so be it.

Anyway think what you will i wont be able to change that, i've had little to do with this due to real life circumstance and i don't fully understand the depths of what has gone on. As ever if i get a castle to have feasts in i'm happy.

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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: BattalGazi on November 29, 2011, 12:43:55 am
Edit: Last Minute Addition: Yea I'm sorry to be the bad guy but this thread needs to have this information too.

After the betrayal, I was offered to stay in the region without any fiefs for some time, while Wolves&Templars were busy with destroying HRE & Fallen. And we recruiting troops in castles to support them while all this was happening to our only loyal allies. Eventually we might be offered a fief in the lands of the destroyed HRE. So a request for betraying our loyal allies and being loyal to our betrayers.

Sorry being like this, but community has to know ...
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on November 29, 2011, 12:48:11 am
Soooo..... You didnt get betrayed and all this drama was for nothing?  Or you got "betrayed" as a manouver to actualy support Temp/Wolves vs Fallen/HRE or you actualy got betrayed and you decided to betray the enemies of the betrayers? Im confus
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: BattalGazi on November 29, 2011, 12:53:29 am
Soooo..... You didnt get betrayed and all this drama was for nothing?  Or you got "betrayed" as a manouver to actualy support Temp/Wolves vs Fallen/HRE or you actualy got betrayed and you decided to betray the enemies of the betrayers? Im confus

Dude, it is pretty obvious: all HRE, Wolves and Templars were our allies. They sent us support troops. However, Wolves and Templars betrayed us and the alliance and attacked us with their so called "support" armies. Then they asked to betray HRE, who is the only clan that we are still ally to and loyal to. Pretty clear.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on November 29, 2011, 12:57:24 am
Im reading your previous post and im still pretty confused on which side are you on now
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on November 29, 2011, 12:58:59 am
Im reading your previous post and im still pretty confused on which side are you on now
come on dudeeee
high five!
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Xant on November 29, 2011, 01:01:14 am
I understood it just fine, so it's not the fault of the post.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Nebun on November 29, 2011, 01:07:59 am
omg Kapikulu, we was so nice to you in the desert, let u trade in our lands, even stay for a while in one of our villages and you was planing to stab us in the back...
how could you? HOW COULD U?
my dream and hopes are broken against the wall of lies you said to us
how could we be so foolish to trust you  :(
what u did to us is hurtful
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: RandomDude on November 29, 2011, 01:24:04 am
Hmm my knowledge of all the diplomacy in Strategus is sadly lacking even though I do ask.

All i know is that everyone who has been an enemy, will probably be your enemy forever. Anyone who isnt a friend could become a friend or enemy, but if you suspect them as an enemy KILL THEM ALL!!!

Helpful advice? probably not but i had to type something and its better than my last attempt
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Casimir on November 29, 2011, 01:27:52 am
Indeed, it is amazing how upset you get about being deceived when at the same time you deceive others.

We'll fight, and God will decide the truth of it.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Nebun on November 29, 2011, 01:32:51 am
After this, I don't think I could ever trust anyone again!
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: BattalGazi on November 29, 2011, 01:36:26 am
I guess you are trying to play with words here but it is obvious that we never decieved anyone so far.
We were allies with Byzntines, HRE, Wolves and Templars and agreed to fight against western clans and here is a list what happened:
* Byzantines deserted us and quit playing strategus. They all started to play Skyrim instead.
* HRE and Fallen is still our allies, the only loyal guys so far.
* Wolves and Templars deceived us including HRE and Fallen too. They sent us support armies which then turned into attack armies who are currently attacking our fiefs. They also asked us to betray HRE but we refused.
* Never had any deals with DRZ except their free trade zones.

So give up your word plays and embrace the truth. You ( Wolves and Templars ) played a real good game by being double sided. You ( Wolves and Templars ) betrayed Kapikulu, HRE and Fallen. You won over us, but now community shall remember you as the least trustworthy clans in the game.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Nebun on November 29, 2011, 01:40:25 am
And i though we was friendly neighbours.
What did we ever do to u Kapikuku to deserve this. How could u ask us to stay at our village, which we provided for u and byzantium, and plan against us?
This is so low. I don't think memory of this will ever stop hurting me.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Kocik_4th on November 29, 2011, 01:48:50 am
but now community shall remember you as the least trustworthy clans in the game.
community and guinness will remember you with wipe record.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Darkkarma on November 29, 2011, 01:58:43 am
You won over us, but now community shall remember you as the least trustworthy clans in the game.

Coming from the voice of experience here, it usually doesn't work that way, especially when you're sort of playing the same game as your enemies.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cepeshi on November 29, 2011, 02:02:21 am
This makes me even prouder wolf.

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on November 29, 2011, 02:04:50 am
Try to blame yourself instead of others.

U failed ; u thought that u are same with bashibazouk but not
               u thought that we cant even come to mawiti but we came
               u thought that u can cry for help then people will come to aid you but those people are even afraid of bashibazouk
Flee to HRE we will come to there and wipe again
Flee to Merc we will come to there and wipe again
Flee to NA we will come there
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Xant on November 29, 2011, 02:11:35 am
bashibazouk comes on err'body
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: BattalGazi on November 29, 2011, 02:17:38 am
The worst part is that this came from Wolves and Templars, the guys we always trusted  :cry: I wouldn't go on public if it was any other clan.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on November 29, 2011, 02:23:42 am
  :cry:
oo don't cry please my poor intelligence =(
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: The_Angle on November 29, 2011, 02:26:19 am
Strategus=Boring.


Ujin=No longer clan leader.


Clan vote=No Strategus.


We don't get paid to play this game. Cry more.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Noctivagant on November 29, 2011, 02:33:44 am
Well Templars and Wolves switched to the side where there are more opportunities. They don't need to fight against the odds anymore, they don't need to worry about the defenders will be double of their roster. All you have to do is cheat a little lie a little, so you can live happy. Aaaah That reminds me,

"Fight, and you may die.  Run, and you'll live -- at least a while.And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days, from this day to that for one chance, just one chance to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... our FREEDOM!" Braveheart 1995
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: ryanwilson140 on November 29, 2011, 02:33:49 am
Battlegasi from my narrow minded observations you were the ones (Kapikulu and Byzantium) who had a trade agreement with DRZ and were from the get go on strategus trying to wipe them out ..... hmm sounds like you got busted too my friend. It hurts betrayal doesn't it, next strategus do not ask people for rights and understanding if you, yourself are not clean as a whistle.

Also HRE, Fallen and FCC have personally tried to get me to swap sides on two seperate strategus multiple times. Long story short, the liars and cheaters got what they deserved.

I am sad that you were caught in the middle of this but you were also playing DRZ like a fiddle.

Let me end this  post with one simple phrase, OH NO MY POTATOES!!!!!!!
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: ryanwilson140 on November 29, 2011, 02:37:48 am
Quote
Well Templars and Wolves switched to the side where there are more opportunities. They don't need to fight against the odds anymore, they don't need to worry about the defenders will be double of their roster. All you have to do is cheat a little lie a little, so you can live happy. Aaaah That reminds me,

"Fight, and you may die.  Run, and you'll live -- at least a while.And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days, from this day to that for one chance, just one chance to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... our FREEDOM!" Braveheart 1995

You are so spineless, it hurts. When you are getting wiped from strategus, you lie as well mate and make up tales of absolute nonsense. Don't give me the middle finger when you don't even have legs to stand on.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: kinngrimm on November 29, 2011, 02:56:39 am
I guess you are trying to play with words here but it is obvious that we never decieved anyone so far.
Why again wasn't that alliance which not even had a name, why wasn't it made public? Oh let me check ah for the reason that others wont know that we supposidly worked together. In my book that comes pretty close to a deception.

We were allies with Byzntines, HRE, Wolves and Templars and agreed to fight against western clans and here is a list what happened:

nope you weren't. You were allied with Byzantium/Fallen/HRE/GK even before the peace talks in the desert ask Ujin, he should still remember our talks were i told him my plans to go to the desert at NA/EU map release, at start of strat3.0 and then when he later claimed that in the meantime that he totally forgot about me telling him, till he then remembered again and ooops there where the claims released, claims including all of the desert, with you knowing we would be there with you knowing of our plans. If Ujiin didn't tell you then this is actual a plus for Ujiin, but as far what was told from a former contract partner out of last strat i know of another leader who talked about what i was going to do, after me asking him to join, well that's just life, give trust and sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't.

* Wolves and Templars deceived us including HRE and Fallen too. They sent us support armies which then turned into attack armies who are currently attacking our fiefs.
can't argue there, still remember on a site not that Byzantium/Kapikulu supplied Nords and afterwards i was invited to peace talks initiated by nocti ... good old times.

They also asked us to betray HRE but we refused.
At the time Byzantium left strat and CamelScreamer did, i offered you membership and therefor full protection of the alliance, i only asked you that anyone would be fare game.
if you had accepted that, it  could have been that we would now be fighting bashi.
You didn't and i didn't pressure the matter.


Edit: Last Minute Addition: Yea I'm sorry to be the bad guy but this thread needs to have this information too.

After the betrayal, I was offered to stay in the region without any fiefs for some time, while Wolves&Templars were busy with destroying HRE & Fallen. And we recruiting troops in castles to support them while all this was happening to our only loyal allies. Eventually we might be offered a fief in the lands of the destroyed HRE. So a request for betraying our loyal allies and being loyal to our betrayers.
After filling you in on my deception, i told you i wouldn't ask you that, but as it comes a Kapikulu member asked me in steam DiagonaL, if we couldn't be alliance partners and i told him if you were up for that there may be a chance. With you staying down for 2 weeks, not doing anything in strat then grinding troops and agreeing to defeat publicly in the forum and even giving all you got today to HRE without me attacking anyone Kapikulu.
So with this last event in mind out of my perspective Kapikulu came to me to ask, not i came to you to ask.

Sorry being like this, but community has to know ...
does it now?

The worst part is that this came from Wolves and Templars, the guys we always trusted  :cry: I wouldn't go on public if it was any other clan.
man i apologized to you and Rogue, i don't know about others who made deceptions if they would have.
I told you, it was not because of you, i didn't take any pleasure out of this. At the time this started you were already indirectly at war with us, what were you thinking including us in alliance talks in the first place? Templars weren't even invited to that first meeting i just brought them with me and i was asked to leave all small clans alone, like CamelScreamers, CotgS and Pecores(btw i would have been offened only calling me a small clan even it would be true.)
Small clans would have been only a burden was implied, but i told you at that meeting i wont leave them alone. And yes it came in handy that noone knew about how close Hospitaler/Occitan and we were already, but would i made it public the war in the desert would have been a mess for all of us.

Well Templars and Wolves switched to the side where there are more opportunities.
I didn't switch sites that was the hole point of the deception, now nocti take it like a man, that you got beat at your own game. I don't know any other diplomat in this game like you who scares the shit out of me as i rarely know to what you are up to even after one whole strat as your contract partner. You form truth in your hands like a candle maker forms wax.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 29, 2011, 03:00:18 am
So EU drama? Gah, you guys suck at drama creation. Leave that up to us North Americans and you guys stay in your carebear huts smoking peace pipes and playing kumbyeya. Bring Kesh in here and turn it into a proper drama thread. Shesh.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Jarlek on November 29, 2011, 03:10:37 am
After this, I don't think I could ever trust anyone again!
Not even me? D:
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: The_Angle on November 29, 2011, 03:35:20 am
So EU drama? Gah, you guys suck at drama creation. Leave that up to us North Americans and you guys stay in your carebear huts smoking peace pipes and playing kumbyeya. Bring Kesh in here and turn it into a proper drama thread. Shesh.

NA drama comes down to this:

LLJK make a troll topic
Some other Goon clan derps alittle
Whole thread is people faking to be angry
LLJK derp alittle more with their derpings.

The end.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Noctivagant on November 29, 2011, 03:51:13 am
I didn't switch sites that was the hole point of the deception, now nocti take it like a man, that you got beat at your own game. I don't know any other diplomat in this game like you who scares the shit out of me as i rarely know to what you are up to even after one whole strat as your contract partner. You form truth in your hands like a candle maker forms wax.

I'd help you no matter what and you know that. What I'm up to? I'm fucking disappointed to see what you did there, thats it. Everybody who do business with UIF gets corrupt somehow.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Darkkarma on November 29, 2011, 03:52:47 am
NA drama comes down to this:

LLJK make a troll topic
Some other Goon clan derps alittle
Whole thread is people faking to be angry
LLJK derp alittle more with their derpings.

The end.

You should read more of Kesh and some others posts. NA drama actually has very little to do with LLJK these days.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: kinngrimm on November 29, 2011, 04:19:16 am
out of character, for nocti
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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Noctivagant on November 29, 2011, 04:39:29 am
out of character, for nocti
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I would just suggest that if you asked me.

If Bashi attacked Kapikulu I wouldn't have any problem with that. Kapikulu had it coming anyway we all knew that. I would even stay neutral because of my position in subforums. I should not pick sides between Turkish clans. I'm just trying to get some stability in the game, east cannot afford inner conflicts while west is growing stronger and stronger in its carebear way of gaming. Ok Kapikulu is out, Nords are acting like Switzerland HRE and Fallen are out too lets say, so I have to fight against a Russian horde all by myself, then what? game over. Strategus map will become a novelty. Whatever man I better shut up and lets see what happens next.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Keshian on November 29, 2011, 04:43:12 am
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Summary: you played it safe and worked with the mega-alliance that is now over half the Strategus player base and were  willing to lie and backstab to get there.  Hey don't worry about it, people on wall street do it every day of their lives (but they usually get more out of it).
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 29, 2011, 04:44:11 am
NA drama comes down to this:

LLJK make a troll topic
Some other Goon clan derps alittle
Whole thread is people faking to be angry
LLJK derp alittle more with their derpings.

The end.

wait, goons have trolled these forums recently? The hell, I thought they migrated to Valhal...i mean skyrim.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Niemand on November 29, 2011, 04:48:49 am
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THE BIG MIGRATION STARTED

Damnit! That looks like germany...


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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Keshian on November 29, 2011, 04:48:58 am
wait, goons have trolled these forums recently? The hell, I thought they migrated to Valhal...i mean skyrim.

Yeah, ive been in valhalla too often lately.  Haven't filled my trolling quota yet.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: HarunYahya on November 29, 2011, 05:17:12 am
Damnit! That looks like germany...


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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Nebun on November 29, 2011, 05:28:09 am
Summary: you played it safe and worked with the mega-alliance that is now over half the Strategus player base and were  willing to lie and backstab to get there.  Hey don't worry about it, people on wall street do it every day of their lives (but they usually get more out of it).

Yes they passed initiation in our ranks. Now they must drink blood of a crazy monkey in the middle of the night with a full moon above their heads and they become proud UIF members.

FCC join UIF too. Everyone in it this days, didn't u know?
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Tor! on November 29, 2011, 05:30:57 am
Everyone in it this days, didn't u know?

And boring as hell!  8-)
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on November 29, 2011, 05:45:17 am
Yes they passed initiation in our ranks. Now they must drink blood of a crazy monkey in the middle of the night with a full moon above their heads and they become proud UIF members.

FCC join UIF too. Everyone in it this days, didn't u know?
they must be in Underforge dont forget
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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Nebun on November 29, 2011, 05:50:39 am
And boring as hell!  8-)

Well Tor since your clan in UIF as well, at list you don't have to worry about anything. :) We take care of our own.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: kinngrimm on November 29, 2011, 06:05:20 am
Yes they passed initiation in our ranks. Now they must drink blood of a crazy monkey in the middle of the night with a full moon above their heads and they become proud UIF members.

FCC join UIF too. Everyone in it this days, didn't u know?
does craving for the entrails of my enemies count? eating their bloody hearts still beating? making bed sheets out of human skin? getting aroused by killing ranged my old friends?( :oops: :oops: :oops: nebun archer aren't ya hrhr)
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Nebun on November 29, 2011, 06:11:36 am
I'm archer only to kill other archers :)) I hate archers.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: BattalGazi on November 29, 2011, 10:38:55 am
Why again wasn't that alliance which not even had a name, why wasn't it made public? Oh let me check ah for the reason that others wont know that we supposidly worked together. In my book that comes pretty close to a deception.

You know that I always insisted on letting people know about this. But, c'mon man, we never gave the supposed enemies any promises right? And even from the beginning, UIF and DRZ had their plans against us ( once called Fallen block ) too. So forming an alliance against them is nothing unusual and deceptive.

nope you weren't. You were allied with Byzantium/Fallen/HRE/GK even before the peace talks in the desert ask Ujin, he should still remember our talks were i told him my plans to go to the desert at NA/EU map release, at start of strat3.0 and then when he later claimed that in the meantime that he totally forgot about me telling him, till he then remembered again and ooops there where the claims released, claims including all of the desert, with you knowing we would be there with you knowing of our plans. If Ujiin didn't tell you then this is actual a plus for Ujiin, but as far what was told from a former contract partner out of last strat i know of another leader who talked about what i was going to do, after me asking him to join, well that's just life, give trust and sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't.

At first it was all us and Byzantines in the desert until we learned that you also had intentions. Man, you are still missing the point: we are pissed because you deserted the alliance we made. If it had been the other way, I mean if we were in fight with you in the desert, I would be saying nothing because you would be our enemies then. This is nothing to do how it began but how it ended.

man i apologized to you and Rogue, i don't know about others who made deceptions if they would have.
I told you, it was not because of you, i didn't take any pleasure out of this. At the time this started you were already indirectly at war with us, what were you thinking including us in alliance talks in the first place? Templars weren't even invited to that first meeting i just brought them with me and i was asked to leave all small clans alone, like CamelScreamers, CotgS and Pecores(btw i would have been offened only calling me a small clan even it would be true.)
Small clans would have been only a burden was implied, but i told you at that meeting i wont leave them alone. And yes it came in handy that noone knew about how close Hospitaler/Occitan and we were already, but would i made it public the war in the desert would have been a mess for all of us.

So it comes all to this: strategus is becoming a one big happy family. Everyone's joining one side, maybe you'll eventually organize tournaments like "who is the fastest caravan", or "who has the biggest potato" or "a school trip to Kapikulu ruins" ...
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Tor! on November 29, 2011, 10:47:35 am
All these cowards sitting in their big alliance blocks, making strategus boring.. 8-)
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Casimir on November 29, 2011, 10:58:13 am
OH NO MY POTATOES!!!!!!!

I am sorry but did loki seriosuly believe we would ally with him after the Brigade has held their unholy inquisition against us and our brothers for the last two strategus?

For these two rounds of strategus now our 'Friends' and our 'allies' have failed to include us in their plans. At the end of the first strategus we held true to our alliance with shogunate and guards, although their support then was hampered, at the start of the second stratgus shogunate entered a three part alliance with the pillagers and the guards giving no heed to us.  They dragged us into their plans playing off our friendship but when we called for aid none came, those who offered support never delivered.

You battlegazi were no different than the others; schemeing, planing, plotting, dividing up the lands before they were conqured. Yet you are shocked when we found new partners to work with, people who we have a long standing relation with going back since before the second stratgus? You and byzantium proved yourselves to be ever supportive and inclusive to the Templars so what should I care?

You gave us nothing, after calling us friends. I promiced you nothing, and thats what I'm giving you. Your ignorance and lack of respect will be your end.

We will purge the heretics, God Wills It!
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: neupreis on November 29, 2011, 11:03:52 am
I have no problem with that.
We have our peace in Calradia and we have all more time for Skyrim. 




Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Erasmas on November 29, 2011, 11:14:03 am
Eeeee, I am new to this game, can anyone tell me what is UIF?
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Gnjus on November 29, 2011, 11:14:38 am
After this, I don't think I could ever trust anyone again!

Well why didn't you asked, i could've told you so ages ago.  :wink:

In Strat 2.0 i've been on many TS channels of other clans and i spoke to many clan leaders & diplomats and, with the exception of Chagan Arslan, most of what i heard was crap. Kids & no lifers taking the game way too serious and telling you one thing now and completely the opposite tomorrow. If you wanna backstabb someone then just bloody do it, no need to invite me on your TS and tell me lies to gain advantage over me in a game only because i will probably trust you, since we are (presumably) adult and mature enough not to lie each other over TS, i don't see the point in it. This is a game, not a real life issue. They call it diplomacy while i call it bullshit.  Trust no one & sleep with your blade next to you. :wink:

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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: BattalGazi on November 29, 2011, 11:24:06 am
You battlegazi were no different than the others; schemeing, planing, plotting, dividing up the lands before they were conqured. Yet you are shocked when we found new partners to work with, people who we have a long standing relation with going back since before the second stratgus? You and byzantium proved yourselves to be ever supportive and inclusive to the Templars so what should I care?

You gave us nothing, after calling us friends. I promiced you nothing, and thats what I'm giving you. Your ignorance and lack of respect will be your end.

We will purge the heretics, God Wills It!

I should have listened to my clan mates at the beginning at declare jihad on you  :evil:
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Darkkarma on November 29, 2011, 11:29:02 am
Deception and Desert indeed.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Casimir on November 29, 2011, 11:41:22 am
I should have listened to my clan mates at the beginning at declare jihad on you  :evil:

Next time round there will be more crusades, thats a garuntee.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Niemand on November 29, 2011, 12:01:10 pm
Be careful, they may answer with a "moonsicklesade" :D
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: The_Angle on November 29, 2011, 12:02:44 pm
Me thinks Niemand is abit suspect regarding his repressed hatred for Turkish folk. Being from germany and having german friends, I snuffed out your little bitchy comment 'It looks like germany!'. And will be reporting you.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Niemand on November 29, 2011, 12:11:13 pm
I got no home. :(
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Kocik_4th on November 29, 2011, 12:38:01 pm
Next time round there will be more crusades, thats a garuntee.
evet
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Noctivagant on November 29, 2011, 01:40:21 pm
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I'm sick of your, "dudes, grow balls like me look I'm mature" attitude, you used to be one of the biggest dick heads of this game/forum. Now you are all like "been there got the shirt, I did my time" Did you take a wov of soberness or something? Drink more lad. There is nothing wrong with pouring some fuel over fire.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Lordark on November 29, 2011, 01:52:00 pm
I would just suggest that if you asked me.

If Bashi attacked Kapikulu I wouldn't have any problem with that. Kapikulu had it coming anyway we all knew that. I would even stay neutral because of my position in subforums. I should not pick sides between Turkish clans. I'm just trying to get some stability in the game, east cannot afford inner conflicts while west is growing stronger and stronger in its carebear way of gaming. Ok Kapikulu is out, Nords are acting like Switzerland HRE and Fallen are out too lets say, so I have to fight against a Russian horde all by myself, then what? game over. Strategus map will become a novelty. Whatever man I better shut up and lets see what happens next.

Ally to the Hospitallers. We fight lots and loose gracefully! But we keep fighting! Ya! (Eu gonna conquer NA neways. Just give it time. Then donkey man whipes all your hard work for the trullz.)
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Serfonz on November 29, 2011, 01:53:46 pm
In Strat 2.0 i've been on many TS channels of other clans and i spoke to many clan leaders & diplomats

You never came and spoke to me.. I'm depressed now.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on November 29, 2011, 02:28:52 pm
I should have listened to my clan mates at the beginning at declare jihad on you  :evil:
WHO YOU ARE TO DECLARE A JIHAD FFS
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Vibe on November 29, 2011, 02:35:38 pm
YES YOU MUST BEAT CICERO IN A DUEL BEFORE YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DECLARE A JIHAD
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Xant on November 29, 2011, 02:44:24 pm
YES YOU MUST BEAT CICERO IN A DUEL BEFORE YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DECLARE A JIHAD

YES AND CICERO BEATS FALLENS 5VS1
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Gnjus on November 29, 2011, 02:52:38 pm
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I'm sick of your, "dudes, grow balls like me look I'm mature" attitude, you used to be one of the biggest dick heads of this game/forum. Now you are all like "been there got the shirt, I did my time" Did you take a wov of soberness or something? Drink more lad. There is nothing wrong with pouring some fuel over fire.

Fuuuuuck youuuuuu, blond-haireeeddddd "I live in Holland but I'm Turkish" assssholllleeeee !!! I drank more alcohol in my short miserable life then you ever got to see in your "long & prosperous" "I'm a Turkish-version-of Mr.Spock-just-living-in-Netherlands" life. Period. Amen. Shalom.  :wink:

Don't make me buy a one way ticket to Holland, just to show you "the way of the Balkanians". If i do that you can start writing your last will right away. :wink:

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You never came and spoke to me.. I'm depressed now.

True dat. Bad luck matey. I guess you were never as important in your clan as you believe you were.   :twisted:
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on November 29, 2011, 02:59:58 pm
YES AND CICERO BEATS FALLENS 5VS1
YES YOU MUST BEAT CICERO IN A DUEL BEFORE YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DECLARE A JIHAD
oh gonna give you t-shirt that my name on it and signature.
xant wanna make a duel ? ready for public humiliation ?

little crapikukus
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Vibe on November 29, 2011, 03:04:05 pm
xant wanna make a duel ? ready for public humiliation ?

lol here we go again
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Gnjus on November 29, 2011, 03:05:31 pm
xant wanna make a duel ? ready for public humiliation ?

Dear God, I just love Turks. I wanna move over to Izmir and live there happily ever after !!!
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on November 29, 2011, 03:06:45 pm
lol here we go again
take this einstein from here , learn to play , troll , talk
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Xant on November 29, 2011, 03:07:17 pm
oh cicero
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Siiem on November 29, 2011, 03:13:06 pm
 :lol:
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on November 29, 2011, 03:24:39 pm
I should have listened to my clan mates at the beginning at declare jihad on you  :cry:

DON'T CRY MELİS..
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: dado on November 29, 2011, 03:40:32 pm
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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: dynamike on November 29, 2011, 03:43:31 pm
I miss the drama  :(
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: 22nd_King_Plazek on November 29, 2011, 04:03:01 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8ov-Cbpf4M
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Rikthor on November 29, 2011, 04:21:31 pm
wait, goons have trolled these forums recently? The hell, I thought they migrated to Valhal...i mean skyrim.

I'm on page 2  :o

Me thinks Niemand is abit suspect regarding his repressed hatred for Turkish folk. Being from germany and having german friends, I snuffed out your little bitchy comment 'It looks like germany!'. And will be reporting you.

Actually, we outed Niemand as a neo-chocolate chip cookie in the USA banner wars so his hate of turks isn't suprising at all. We finally agree on something The_Angle.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Niemand on November 29, 2011, 05:31:32 pm
You never came and spoke to me.. I'm depressed now.
+1 :(
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 29, 2011, 05:48:55 pm
Just thought id add something here.....

Do you never learn? I mean last strat Acre came along and wiped you from the desert, took your villages and destroyed your armies, and you fled into LLJK lands, you may have some good fighters but your STRATEGYS sucks, your too trusting.

With us we'supposedly' had a NAP, but because it was neither official with myself (Diplomacy of Acre) and it wasnt on the forums then wheres the proper evidence, except for a rogue Acre member sending you a PM, and officially when Reinhardt took a break our diplomacy was wiped, so any previous agreements official or unofficial were wiped clean.

Good advice is dont trust anyone, and keep an eye on previous records, ive been in Acre for one strat and all our agreements we honoured, especially with Camels, but dont trust anyone on mere words, especially if they havent been noted down anywhere.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Osiris on November 29, 2011, 07:08:59 pm
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Eeeee, I am new to this game, can anyone tell me what is UIF?

I know you were only joking :D buuut it was a massive alliance made in strat 1 to fight the templars and friends

Now for some reason NA players seem to use it as a term for every eu clan in the game :D

Apparantly we are all in the UIF (which is odd for the templars to be in a secret anti templar alliance)

I think its supposed to be somehow insulting to be called a member of a dead alliance
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Jarlek on November 29, 2011, 07:18:49 pm
I know you were only joking :D buuut it was a massive alliance made in strat 1 to fight the templars and friends

Now for some reason NA players seem to use it as a term for every eu clan in the game :D

Apparantly we are all in the UIF (which is odd for the templars to be in a secret anti templar alliance)

I think its supposed to be somehow insulting to be called a member of a dead alliance
The Great Master Informer Kesh has enlightened us all! All EU/Asian/African is in an alliance called the UIF and are plotting to take over the world through their carebear playstyle! They will conquer everything with their non-aggresive ways!

There is only ONE thing that can stop them! The Übermensch Australians!
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Nessaj on November 29, 2011, 08:13:26 pm
I'd rather get wiped with my hole clan then lie to you on TS so i can win easier. 8-)

+1
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Keshian on November 29, 2011, 08:20:01 pm
I know you were only joking :D buuut it was a massive alliance made in strat 1 to fight the templars and friends

Now for some reason NA players seem to use it as a term for every eu clan in the game :D

Apparantly we are all in the UIF (which is odd for the templars to be in a secret anti templar alliance)

I think its supposed to be somehow insulting to be called a member of a dead alliance

Its just the original term for the alliance that involved pretty much allthe Russian and Polish clans in Strat 1.0.  Now those same groups are still unofficially allied and will NEVER attack each other but in each version of Strat more clans join the Carebear non-attacking each other group that will only attack NA or NA allies in EU.  They stopped being against Templars after strat 1.0 and focused more on NA and Fallen.

So less and less EU wars as most of you guys are working together and will never attack each other.  Its part of the problem with mega-alliances (common to a lot of games), they get boring for the ordinary players and in more democratic clans that are more common in NA the players get pissed and oust the leaders or ask for changes, but in EU nobody seems to raise too muc of a ruckus within the clans and their leaders tend to be more autocratic.  Which also may be why multi-accounting was FAR MORE an EU problem than an NA problem as autocratic clan leaders basically controlled every memebrs' accounts.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Noctivagant on November 29, 2011, 09:09:38 pm
Fuuuuuck youuuuuu, blond-haireeeddddd "I live in Holland but I'm Turkish" assssholllleeeee !!! I drank more alcohol in my short miserable life then you ever got to see in your "long & prosperous" "I'm a Turkish-version-of Mr.Spock-just-living-in-Netherlands" life. Period. Amen. Shalom.  :wink:

Don't make me buy a one way ticket to Holland, just to show you "the way of the Balkanians". If i do that you can start writing your last will right away. :wink:

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True dat. Bad luck matey. I guess you were never as important in your clan as you believe you were.   :twisted:

Oooo Manyak Laf! Balkans, hah I drink Rakija like its juice. You come here and I teach you how to properly get shitfaced. your mama was a hamster and your father smells of sok od bazge!
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Matey on November 29, 2011, 10:16:36 pm


True dat. Bad luck matey. I guess you were never as important in your clan as you believe you were.   :twisted:

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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Keshian on November 29, 2011, 10:18:24 pm
;{

Lulz.  Matey is the cornerstone of FCC, so screw you.  Oh wait, you were not talking about him, dammit.  Oh wait, its Gnjus, screw you.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Gnjus on November 29, 2011, 10:38:19 pm
Oooo Manyak Laf! Balkans, hah I drink Rakija like its juice. You come here and I teach you how to properly get shitfaced. your mama was a hamster and your father smells of sok od bazge!

Peace be with ya.  :wink:

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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Noctivagant on November 30, 2011, 02:10:07 am
Peace be with ya.  :wink:

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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Niemand on November 30, 2011, 02:22:56 am
Nah, Kinn is fine. I was bitchin at him in steam a few minutes ago. ^^
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Valdian on November 30, 2011, 09:11:22 am
Very nice post, it is a shame you had to get in the Way of our plans, You see the wolves and templars agreed to the Hospitallers since the start of strat for a alliance, They have kept there word to us since the start, We could not make our alliance announced untill the time was right.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Oberyn on November 30, 2011, 11:35:54 am
So less and less EU wars as most of you guys are working together and will never attack each other. 

Proof?

but in EU nobody seems to raise too muc of a ruckus within the clans and their leaders tend to be more autocratic. 


Again, proof? I realize this is just your instinct in your ridiculous personal beliefs that propoganda worked so hard to instill, namely that Americans are somehow more freedom oriented and independent than those government loving euro's. I'd love to get into a debate about it if those are indeed your views, but mainly I'd like proof of this in Strat.

Which also may be why multi-accounting was FAR MORE an EU problem than an NA problem as autocratic clan leaders basically controlled every memebrs' accounts.

Was this confirmed by the devs at any point, or is this the classic Kesh "I pull numbers out of my ass" move?
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Xant on November 30, 2011, 11:39:53 am
^ Rhetorical questions, of course.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Siiem on November 30, 2011, 11:46:10 am
In danger of stating the obvious... but I'm going to state the obvious. Amuricanhs like to think anything can be proven by statistics, so pulling numbers from anywhere ( body cavities  counts) makes any of their statements legit.

this the classic Kesh "I pull numbers out of my ass" move?
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Oberyn on November 30, 2011, 11:48:49 am
In danger of stating the obvious... but I'm going to state the obvious. Amuricanhs like to think anything can be proven by statistics, so pulling numbers from anywhere makes any of their statements legit.

Manipulating and making up statistics for justification is far from a uniquely American pasttime. Don't be just as retarded as Kesh, Siiem.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Siiem on November 30, 2011, 11:51:19 am
Manipulating and making up statistics for justification is far from a uniquely American pasttime.

Lies and slander, give me statistical proof!

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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Vibe on November 30, 2011, 11:51:24 am
Proof?

Pretty much this http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4053/61863243.jpg
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Gnjus on November 30, 2011, 11:51:41 am
Don't be just as retarded as Kesh, Siiem.

He can't help it, Bloby. It's not his fault.  :twisted:
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Siiem on November 30, 2011, 11:53:05 am
He can't help it, Bloby. It's not his fault.  :twisted:

Well that did it, approval from gnjus. Pretty much invalidates any of your arguments. Hooray I win.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Oberyn on November 30, 2011, 11:53:56 am
Nice work getting it off DRZ private forums.  I bet they are pissed.  Its exactly what they ar e working on.

So, is this Kesh, again, making shit up? Did some HRE guy take a map and draw some pretty red lines on it, or is the origin of this DRZ?
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Vibe on November 30, 2011, 11:56:16 am
So, is this Kesh, again, making shit up? Did some HRE guy take a map and draw some pretty red lines on it, or is the origin of this DRZ?

Ofcourse some HRE guy made that map, jesus sarcasm detector on, please. Doesn't mean it's not the truth.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Siiem on November 30, 2011, 12:00:02 pm
Ofcourse some HRE guy made that map, jesus sarcasm detector on, please. Doesn't mean it's not the truth.

Why? Are you implying that a russian can't draw a map without the help from the herrenvolk of HRE? Tsk tsk tsk, racial bias, sad day for c-rpg.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Gnjus on November 30, 2011, 12:00:23 pm
Well that did it, approval from gnjus.

Well not even I could disapprove or dispute that fact.  :wink:
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Casimir on November 30, 2011, 12:01:41 pm
Just because one crusade might end doesnt mean another wont begin.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Vibe on November 30, 2011, 12:03:48 pm
I'll believe that when I see any form of versus between Grey, DRZ, Bashi, Risen, Legio, 22nd, etc
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Ujin on November 30, 2011, 12:06:19 pm
Ah, I'm glad  I  resigned and quit strat ,it always brings the worst crap even out of the most decent men. =)

I'm really sorry about what happened with Kapikulu, they are without question one of the most honourable clans in the game and the most loyal ally we've had, they deserve much better.

@Gazi i've told you my reasons earlier so i hope you don't hold anything against me . And no , we don't all play skyrim, we actually play cRPG and other games, just not strategus anymore. It feels good mate, you should try it out some time =).


@Cooties  riiiiight, not the best experience you say. Like us trying to get you land fighting LLJK, getting attacked , fighting on 2 fronts while you sit inside our fiefs for a month and than leave saying "we wanna try our luck elsewhere" , that kind of experience ? As for the fun you had in that war, well sorry for ruining it, feel free to attack wolves+templars or any other overwhelming force alone next time :D. Can't blame you or anyone for having an opinion though.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Vovka on November 30, 2011, 12:07:29 pm
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Very sorry that half of them failed, and failed to meet expectations of Kesh, and now all that remains is to him is whining on forum  :P
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Vovka on November 30, 2011, 12:08:32 pm
So, is this Kesh, again, making shit up? Did some HRE guy take a map and draw some pretty red lines on it, or is the origin of this DRZ?
my green lines much cooler  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Oberyn on November 30, 2011, 12:11:30 pm
my green lines much cooler  :mrgreen:

You forgot to put alarming "targets" for world domination. Propaganda fail.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Vibe on November 30, 2011, 12:13:11 pm
Now compare the clans and their numbers from those maps. GK and ANT (or even Mercs) are tiny clans, to say the least.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Casimir on November 30, 2011, 12:20:37 pm
Everyone knows strat will always end up being two massive cooalitions fighting one another, its how it works when communications are so easy.  People will alwyas look for an advantage in a fight.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Vovka on November 30, 2011, 12:21:20 pm
Now compare the clans and their numbers from those maps. GK and ANT (or even Mercs) are tiny clans, to say the least.
I think 80% of the gaming community that is listed in the clans "Kesh and CO"  compensate this )
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Casimir on November 30, 2011, 12:22:39 pm
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Clearly we must liberate CHAOS from their surrounding oppressors.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Vibe on November 30, 2011, 12:25:12 pm
I think 80% of the gaming community that is listed in the clans "Kesh and CO"  compensate this )

Hardly, and the discussion was about EU balance of forces, not EU and NA.


Everyone knows strat will always end up being two massive cooalitions fighting one another, its how it works when communications are so easy.  People will alwyas look for an advantage in a fight.

Correct, apparently inevitable too, sadly. However, the problem here is one is massive, the other is what you may call "big".
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Darkkarma on November 30, 2011, 12:25:44 pm
SAaAaAaAaAaAve us!!!, UIF coalition!!


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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Vovka on November 30, 2011, 12:26:40 pm
Clearly we must liberate CHAOS from their surrounding oppressors.
but.. but.. but.. you promised that we will destroy CHAOS!?
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Lordark on November 30, 2011, 12:28:44 pm
Leave Chaos alone thier nutroll!
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Vovka on November 30, 2011, 12:40:29 pm
SAaAaAaAaAaAve us!!!, UIF coalition!!


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No way! Kesh need more friend for hugs!
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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Casimir on November 30, 2011, 12:43:35 pm
Fine well we get Karma and Canary then we gtfo!

The Crusade shall continue - Retrive the holy relic Canary and rescue the princess Darkkarma from the hands of the heretics which hath siezed them!
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Niemand on November 30, 2011, 12:51:16 pm
Can I has some ice? O_O
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Niemand on November 30, 2011, 01:07:49 pm
Yääääy! doublepost!

SAaAaAaAaAaAve us!!!, UIF coalition!!
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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Tor! on November 30, 2011, 01:08:00 pm
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Green lines are much sexier
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Niemand on November 30, 2011, 01:09:00 pm
Indeed. That makes the green. <3
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Xant on November 30, 2011, 01:20:59 pm
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Teeth on November 30, 2011, 02:57:51 pm
This thread is so full of reasons to not play Strategus. Stop taking this shit so serious, here listen to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMBlMMGxfpw

Chill, smile and don't worry.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on November 30, 2011, 03:24:32 pm
This thread is so full of reasons to not play Strategus. Stop taking this shit so serious, here listen to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMBlMMGxfpw

Chill, smile and don't worry.
do u think that u are funny ? go back to your cave unsocial
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Teeth on November 30, 2011, 03:48:44 pm
do u think that u are funny ? go back to your cave unsocial
You sound a lot more like you should be living in a cave than I do. Don't even get me started on you of all people, calling me unsocial.

And I'm serious, it wasn't a joke. Stop taking Strategus so seriously and let that get in the way of having good fun. Some people might do well by listening to some good reggae, so thats why I posted the link.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: dynamike on November 30, 2011, 03:57:05 pm
Clearly we must liberate CHAOS from their surrounding oppressors.

Now that you mention it... we are kinda in the middle of everyone and don't have any friends...

I scurred!  :P
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on November 30, 2011, 04:23:40 pm
You sound a lot more like you should be living in a cave than I do. Don't even get me started on you of all people, calling me unsocial.

And I'm serious, it wasn't a joke. Stop taking Strategus so seriously and let that get in the way of having good fun. Some people might do well by listening to some good reggae, so thats why I posted the link.
It is the way that we have fun why its making you trouble ? Just fuck off ? We are having fun by doing this type and u are playing by playing on public servers ? Do we say something to you ? Like why you guys are taking so fuckin serious public games its public u are not getting anything when u get 5x or heirlooms retards!!! 12 years old idiots!!!!!! see ? its fucking unlogical.
Its playing a boardgame with your friends like when u go drink beer and play trivial pursuit.Failing in strategus is not the valid reason to blame the people that are playing it.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Jarlek on November 30, 2011, 04:24:15 pm
Now that you mention it... we are kinda in the middle of everyone and don't have any friends...

I scurred!  :P
But you guys are so cute! Why would anyone want to attack you? Even when you attack others you're all still so adorable :D
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: dynamike on November 30, 2011, 04:36:00 pm
But you guys are so cute! Why would anyone want to attack you? Even when you attack others you're all still so adorable :D

Yeah we are like Gremlins - cute even as we bite your face off  :mrgreen:

Just don't feed us after midnight and we stay peaceful  :wink:
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: HarunYahya on November 30, 2011, 04:46:22 pm
I'm not writing this in a tone of aggression or favoring, this is just a summary of what has been done in the desert region. From all we have been through, I believe we, Kapikulu, at least has the right to let everyone know about it. I'm pretty sure that this topic will be massively trolled by some people of whom you know very well, and I totally would like them to do it as they will bump this for free and eventually more people will know this. Thanks in advance.

Ok, the initial plan in the desert was to form an alliance with us ( TheTurks ) , Byzantines , HRE, Fallen, Wolves and Templars to work together against the evil of the rest of other coalitions. And we did too. Every clan in this agreed on an alliance and held multiple meetings to discuss further plans.

It was going pretty good up to some point.

Then for some reason Byzantines deserted the desert and stopped playing strategus, I blame Skyrim for this.

After Byzantines left, an alliance agreement between us and Wolves & Templars are replenished to recover the lately lost power in the east block.

Then we learned that our dearest friends in Bashibazouks decided to attack as they have promised once. Even they have been raging against us, cursing, insulting, at least they kept their promises, this is one important thing. When they were at our doors, we summoned our allies help to the region. As promised once, due to alliance agreement; HRE, Wolves and Templars sent their supporting armies for reinforcement against the Bashibazouk battle.

The picture was looking bright for us as with the supporting armies of 3000 men, we could win over Bashi. But, unfortunately Wolves and Templars decided to desert their oath in their alliance and we were deceived. Currently their supporting armies are attacking us along with Bashi.

All in all, I have to admit that it was a good game played by Wolves & Templars, in behalf of Kapikulu I congratulate them. No matter how they feel sorry about this, I have to let people know about this. Because this is the only way we could do as our last response to what has been done.

We are still with our allies, we shall not deceive them. Although it is certain that this stand will lead us to our total elimination, we are happy to lose this turn by still keeping our oaths and promises we made. We die with honor !

Edit: Last Minute Addition: Yea I'm sorry to be the bad guy but this thread needs to have this information too.

After the betrayal, I was offered to stay in the region without any fiefs for some time, while Wolves&Templars were busy with destroying HRE & Fallen. And we recruiting troops in castles to support them while all this was happening to our only loyal allies. Eventually we might be offered a fief in the lands of the destroyed HRE. So a request for betraying our loyal allies and being loyal to our betrayers.

Sorry being like this, but community has to know.

TOO LONG
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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Teeth on November 30, 2011, 05:12:12 pm
It is the way that we have fun why its making you trouble ? Just fuck off ? We are having fun by doing this type and u are playing by playing on public servers ? Do we say something to you ? Like why you guys are taking so fuckin serious public games its public u are not getting anything when u get 5x or heirlooms retards!!! 12 years old idiots!!!!!! see ? its fucking unlogical.
Its playing a boardgame with your friends like when u go drink beer and play trivial pursuit.Failing in strategus is not the valid reason to blame the people that are playing it.
I just comment on all the rage in this thread and post some good reggae. And you call me unsocial and that I should go back to my cave. I respond that you fit the first thing a lot better than I do and that you sound like a caveman yourself in a calm manner.

I think nothing I posted in this thread warranted such a reaction, so you're just raging for nothing. I will repost some Bob Marley, I hope you listen to it and relax a little. Here the happiest song of Bob Marley. Now smile and think about chilling in a hammock with a cold beer on a tropical beach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LanCLS_hIo4

Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on November 30, 2011, 05:20:19 pm
I just comment on all the rage in this thread and post some good reggae. And you call me unsocial and that I should go back to my cave. I respond that you fit the first thing a lot better than I do and that you sound like a caveman yourself in a calm manner.

I think nothing I posted in this thread warranted such a reaction, so you're just raging for nothing. I will repost some Bob Marley, I hope you listen to it and relax a little. Here the happiest song of Bob Marley. Now smile and think about chilling in a hammock with a cold beer on a tropical beach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LanCLS_hIo4
you are missing the point , its none of your business to give us advice.
you criticising us and i am doing same to you got the topic ?
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Teeth on November 30, 2011, 05:30:10 pm
Oh Cicero, you're such a derp.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Keshian on November 30, 2011, 05:33:10 pm
Now that you mention it... we are kinda in the middle of everyone and don't have any friends...

I scurred!  :P

You can be my friend :) (slides a cookie over after midnight)
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: dynamike on November 30, 2011, 09:42:15 pm
You can be my friend :) (slides a cookie over after midnight)

Why do I have the feeling that you want us to make things more interesting?  :wink:
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: BaleOhay on November 30, 2011, 10:10:57 pm
because the only thing worse than MORE interesting is LESS interesting. You know you want to be part of the fun.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Smoothrich on November 30, 2011, 10:39:59 pm
Not reading the thread, just want to congratulate Cicero and all of the Bashibazouks for successfully causing complete-clan GTXs in Strat and annihilating their enemies with superior grand strategy and player skill, which is what the game is alll about.

Good job.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Kansuke on November 30, 2011, 10:51:00 pm
God I can't believe Cicero has more than 12 years old, seriously...

I have nothing against Bashi but you guys should really stop posting it's like every new post I read from Cicero or Koyama makes you look even more retarded and I think I'm not the only one to think that way.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Noctivagant on November 30, 2011, 10:56:41 pm
Now that you mention it... we are kinda in the middle of everyone and don't have any friends...

I scurred!  :P

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You can be my friend :) (slides a cookie over after midnight)

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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Braeden on November 30, 2011, 11:24:55 pm
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Very sorry that half of them failed, and failed to meet expectations of Kesh, and now all that remains is to him is whining on forum  :P

Hey now! The people of  the Khudan region will have none of these shenanigans!  We aren't part of a Keshian alliance!  That green dot ought be removed or at least moved to only include the FCC colony in the area.

(Also the map should probably include the northern seaboard)
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Keshian on November 30, 2011, 11:43:42 pm
Hey now! The people of  the Khudan region will have none of these shenanigans!  We aren't part of a Keshian alliance!  That green dot ought be removed or at least moved to only include the FCC colony in the area.

(Also the map should probably include the northern seaboard)

We are colonizing the wastelands adn bringing democracy to the barbarians in the area.  Its the little dot called Bhulaban where we successfully democratized the peasants there after a tyrant was ruling there.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: dynamike on December 01, 2011, 12:09:17 am
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Nothing goes over friendly neighbors.

And Dave Chappelle!  :D
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: HarunYahya on December 01, 2011, 05:49:46 am
God I can't believe Cicero has more than 12 years old, seriously...

I have nothing against Bashi but you guys should really stop posting it's like every new post I read from Cicero or Koyama makes you look even more retarded and I think I'm not the only one to think that way.
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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on December 01, 2011, 06:33:29 am
God I can't believe Cicero has more than 12 years old, seriously...

I have nothing against Bashi but you guys should really stop posting it's like every new post I read from Cicero or Koyama makes you look even more retarded and I think I'm not the only one to think that way.
haters gonna hate.
Guys please drop the weapon which is directly looking to kansuke and others and also stop telling them to read our posts he is so mad =(
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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: SeQuel on December 01, 2011, 07:48:57 am
Who's this Cicero guy? Never heard of him, seems to be age 12 though.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Noctivagant on December 01, 2011, 08:57:27 am
Who's this Cicero guy? Never heard of him, seems to be age 12 though.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NmH9vEdGBE

Am I the only who one can see the irony here?
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on December 01, 2011, 10:37:47 am
Who's this SeQuel guy? Never heard of him, seems to be age 12 though.

 :oops:
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Vibe on December 01, 2011, 10:40:07 am
Who's this Cicero guy? Never heard of him, seems to be age 12 though.

Just some angry turk
He beats you in a duel though
So you suck SeQuel
And all your opinions are invalidated
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on December 01, 2011, 03:57:10 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NmH9vEdGBE

Am I the only who one can see the irony here?
stab stab stab stab stab then again stab stab stab stab stab fuckin milions of name they choose "cicero" and fuckin put it on a jester not a dragon fuckin skyrim on the other hand i have my own armour.Cicero's boots.I think cRPG should do something like this.


Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: rufio on December 01, 2011, 04:35:21 pm
stopped reading at page 8 , already went to far, gnjus cicero and xant il beat u 3 vs 1 enytime , because i is  smarter then u , and i is faster, and i has no weakness, for i am almighty  , i shine in the light, and the gods bask in my shadow, i am all knowing , i am the alpha and the omega,  your mother loves me your father feares me , and you want to be me.

one day you will shout , shout at the top of your lungs, like many have done before you:

RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Gnjus on December 01, 2011, 04:48:58 pm
gnjus cicero and xant il beat u 3 vs 1 enytime

What is this, i don't even.........

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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Xant on December 01, 2011, 04:51:54 pm
Don't be modest Gnjus, everyone knows you're the best.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on December 01, 2011, 04:52:28 pm
stopped reading at page 8 , already went to far, gnjus cicero and xant il beat u 3 vs 1 enytime , because i is  smarter then u , and i is faster, and i has no weakness, for i am almighty  , i shine in the light, and the gods bask in my shadow, i am all knowing , i am the alpha and the omega,  your mother loves me your father feares me , and you want to be me.

one day you will shout , shout at the top of your lungs, like many have done before you:

RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
fear me like you fear god cause i bring deathhh
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: rufio on December 01, 2011, 04:56:14 pm
i fear no god for as told earlier the gods bask in my shadow, and gnjus i just put u in there because i miss you , yes i am man enough to share my feelings , yes i have feelings, specially for gnjus, and his crooked nose, oh that nose i miss it somuch, gnjus i love you , ,,    oh that has been on my mind for quite some time, i feel relief sharing this with you , oh the relief , i feel euphoric .
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Gnjus on December 01, 2011, 04:58:58 pm
Don't be modest Gnjus, everyone knows you're the best.

Maybe only at fail recruiting for a clan. I DID recruit Siiem which is the fail of the century. I doubt anyone could beat that.  :wink:


@Rufio: i don't know if i apologized to you for the amounts of gibberish language you had to endure on our TS but that was just bad luck, when there are foreigners on we mostly speak English, ask P-a-n-o-s.  :)
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on December 01, 2011, 05:00:07 pm
i fear no god for as told earlier the gods bask in my shadow, and gnjus i just put u in there because i miss you , yes i am man enough to share my feelings , yes i have feelings, specially for gnjus, and his crooked nose, oh that nose i miss it somuch, gnjus i love you , ,,    oh that has been on my mind for quite some time, i feel relief sharing this with you , oh the relief , i feel euphoric .
hmmm , i smell gay here
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Xant on December 01, 2011, 05:08:02 pm
Maybe only at fail recruiting for a clan. I DID recruit Siiem which is the fail of the century. I doubt anyone could beat that.  :wink:

Can't argue with that..
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: rufio on December 01, 2011, 05:10:51 pm
hmmm , i smell gay here

a man scared of his feelings , for he is unsure , is the man that has potential to be gay, the man who knows to place his feelings, the feeling of love for his fellow brother, his brother in murder rape and pillaging,  that man who knows brotherly love, is the real man, the man who dous not know love and fears it for he confuses it with lust , is the man that is probbably a little puff fairy boy.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on December 01, 2011, 05:19:46 pm
a man scared of his feelings , for he is unsure , is the man that has potential to be gay, the man who knows to place his feelings, the feeling of love for his fellow brother, his brother in murder rape and pillaging,  that man who knows brotherly love, is the real man, the man who dous not know love and fears it for he confuses it with lust , is the man that is probbably a little puff fairy boy.
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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: rufio on December 01, 2011, 05:22:25 pm
agreed, all though i dont call gays gay, i call them puff fairy boys, its more fitting imo
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on December 01, 2011, 05:28:43 pm
probably you will change your mind when u meet with our great god of thunder , sea , fire , war and LOVE
AZIS our bulgarian prince
zabravi me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWyw_1M6Bfc&feature=related
watch it to the end if you can.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: The_Angle on December 01, 2011, 06:36:21 pm
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Breaking news, thread totalled by hurricane Bashibangoonki.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: rufio on December 01, 2011, 06:55:53 pm
cicero i watched the first 2 frames, i really wanna know how do u come by these songs/clips, o wait no i dont , i leave that to your private time.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: rufio on December 01, 2011, 06:58:07 pm
@Rufio: i don't know if i apologized to you for the amounts of gibberish language you had to endure on our TS but that was just bad luck, when there are foreigners on we mostly speak English, ask P-a-n-o-s.  :)

yes u appologised :P no worrys m8, but i dont have ts enymore since new windows install, if its still in faction halls il join someday soon in the evening
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Gnjus on December 01, 2011, 07:06:31 pm
if its still in faction halls il join someday soon in the evening

Naah, Bandits do not exist anymore. I don't know how active is our TS atm but i think you can find most of my lads on Wolves TS, at least those who play cRPG.  :wink:

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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: HarunYahya on December 01, 2011, 07:24:24 pm
cicero i watched the first 2 frames, i really wanna know how do u come by these songs/clips, o wait no i dont , i leave that to your private time.
Wow , couldn't you watch the rest ?
He is just a puff fairy boy afterall besides music is great .
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: v/onMega on December 01, 2011, 07:29:58 pm
Cicero stupid and full of his self?
Strategus more and more boring?
Templars being oppurtunists?
Wolves unashamed to make there selfs somebodies bitch?
Hre and Fallen alone against a superbig coallition of the scared?

Wow...this is sooooo old news.

Hell this mod is played out....in and out.
Its not the devs killing stuff, its 85%  of the players playing it....

Tradeaimulator 3.0 rocks btw! Cough.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Osiris on December 01, 2011, 07:47:39 pm
what you mean Fallen arnt allowed to take over a massive area of land uncontested this time? The HORROR!
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: HarunYahya on December 01, 2011, 08:21:49 pm
For all the QQ whiners,migration junkies and GTXters

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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Camaris on December 01, 2011, 08:34:00 pm
what you mean Fallen arnt allowed to take over a massive area of land uncontested this time? The HORROR!

you could have fought us from the beginning for our claims but everybody here know what bitchy way you chose.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Rhygar666 on December 01, 2011, 09:30:33 pm
For all the QQ whiners,migration junkies and GTXters

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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: The_Angle on December 01, 2011, 09:32:50 pm
For all the QQ whiners,migration junkies and GTXters

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Actually, you sir are the loser.



The game was stopped after too many 'RL my old friends' started playing.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Rubicon on December 01, 2011, 09:42:12 pm
you could have fought us from the beginning for our claims but everybody here know what bitchy way you chose.
Well, strat 1.0 HRE vassal of fallens, strat 2.0 HRE "independant" (Fallens puppet), same for strat 3.0, Templars and Fallens are in a perpetual war for RP reasons and now you guys whine about that. How cute.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Rhygar666 on December 01, 2011, 09:44:18 pm
Well, strat 1.0 HRE vassal of fallens, strat 2.0 HRE "independant" (Fallens puppet), same for strat 3.0, Templars and Fallens are in a perpetual war for RP reasons and now you guys whine about that. How cute.
nope, i just feel sad about the way you and the wolves turned out to be, dont manly enough to show, that you wanted to fight against us instead well you know already, so i leave that part..
dont need to derp answer now, im gonna go sleeping.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Lansamur on December 01, 2011, 10:16:33 pm
Drama-queen.

Gotta love to be a neutral my old friendmin. Or as Gnjus would say: Fatmin.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: HarunYahya on December 01, 2011, 10:46:08 pm
Actually, you sir are the loser.



The game was stopped after too many 'RL my old friends' started playing.
Nope only you stopped playing .
U SO MAD cuz you aint a part of this game anymore . I feel sorry for you.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on December 02, 2011, 02:51:06 am
Not reading the thread, just want to congratulate Cicero and all of the Bashibazouks for successfully causing complete-clan GTXs in Strat and annihilating their enemies with superior grand strategy and player skill, which is what the game is alll about.

Good job.
superior goon tactics we do , i cant remember where we learn it from  :rolleyes:
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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on December 02, 2011, 08:10:54 am
WHAT I SEE HERE ARE LOTS OF JELLIES..

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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Darkoveride on December 02, 2011, 01:28:25 pm
when i see rufio i always think of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um8mMa5w41A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um8mMa5w41A)
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: neupreis on December 02, 2011, 02:17:52 pm
when i see rufio i always think of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um8mMa5w41A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um8mMa5w41A)
Me too.  :lol:
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: mustg on December 02, 2011, 11:21:35 pm
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Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Osiris on December 03, 2011, 05:41:35 pm
The noble Order of Crusaders must come to the aid their fellow Christians in Calradria. The infidel HRE/Fallen are advancing into the heart of Calradrian chadzianity; chadzians are being oppressed and attacked; churches and holy places are being defiled. Stategus is groaning under the Fallen yoke. The Holy Donkey Shrine is in Kapikulu hands and has been turned into an abomination. Pilgrims are harassed and even prevented from access to the Holy Land.

"The Desert must march to the defence of the chadzians. All should go, rich and poor alike. The Crusaders must stop their internal wars and squabbles. Let them go instead against the infidel and fight a righteous war.

"chadz himself will lead them, for they will be doing His work. There will be absolution and remission of sins for all who die in the service of chadz. Here they are poor and miserable sinners; there they will be rich and happy. Let none hesitate; they must march next summer. God wills it!

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(I am sorry for mutilating a speach by Pope Urban II :D )
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on December 03, 2011, 07:13:13 pm
(I am sorry for mutilating a speach by Pope Urban II :D )

YOU'LL BE BOILED IN HELL FOR SUCH HERESY! CONFESS AND BEG FOR SALVATION MY FRIEND :( ALLAH WILLS IT
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Prpavi on December 03, 2011, 07:26:03 pm
wah gwan here?

u all mad?
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on December 03, 2011, 07:29:16 pm
Why is the girl on your avatar holding the mace when it is nerfed? I mean 30 blunt dmg is ok but its 98 speed now, Tell her to switch to a long spiked mace or cobbled
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Prpavi on December 03, 2011, 07:30:57 pm
Why is the girl on your avatar holding the mace when it is nerfed? I mean 30 blunt dmg is ok but its 98 speed now, She should switch to a long spiked mace or cobbled

the bitch is a OP weapon whore and now she got fucked by everyday patching and failed market manipulations

she sad...
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: The_Angle on December 03, 2011, 08:40:49 pm
Shes hot.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Niemand on December 04, 2011, 05:00:46 am
Yes. Indeed. got a name?
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: HarunYahya on December 04, 2011, 08:25:57 am
the bitch is a OP weapon whore and now she got fucked by everyday patching and failed market manipulations

she sad...
This is so old
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,1103.msg78085.html#msg78085
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on December 04, 2011, 10:44:16 am
This is so old
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,1103.msg78085.html#msg78085


Hahaha i read the member stories on page 1 again, good times  8-)
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Niemand on December 04, 2011, 11:12:29 am
I still want her name! -.-
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: The_Angle on December 04, 2011, 02:57:33 pm
Me too. Hand it over boy!
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: HarunYahya on December 04, 2011, 05:02:51 pm

Hahaha i read the member stories on page 1 again, good times  8-)
Which Bandit do you hate most ?
beer the Unlucky Cunt 58 (21.4%)
 :rolleyes: :cry:
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: rufio on December 06, 2011, 06:17:49 am
when i see rufio i always think of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um8mMa5w41A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um8mMa5w41A)

you dear sir have found the true source of my name :) no not rufio from oblivion dark brotherhood quest xD
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Prpavi on December 06, 2011, 11:04:43 am
Me too. Hand it over boy!

I don knowz her name  :(
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Niemand on December 06, 2011, 11:53:56 am
Go to 4chan and find out!
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on December 06, 2011, 01:24:42 pm
Go to 4chan and find out!

4CHONG KANKER POSTER ALERT!
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Niemand on December 06, 2011, 02:45:40 pm
can't remember what "kanker" meant. :(
But to clear it up: I am not dutch.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Noctivagant on December 06, 2011, 04:21:08 pm
can't remember what "kanker" meant. :(
But to clear it up: I am not dutch.

Kanker : Cancer
can be used in sentence to mean something else

example :

"Kanker op", literally means get cancer, used as fuck off
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Niemand on December 06, 2011, 04:23:23 pm
then the turks stuff makes no sense at all. :(
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Prpavi on December 06, 2011, 04:54:17 pm
Go to 4chan and find out!

No U!
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Noctivagant on December 06, 2011, 05:16:18 pm
then the turks stuff makes no sense at all. :(

Thats exactly why I'm hired by the devs.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Niemand on December 06, 2011, 05:46:58 pm
No U!
that means...

ANGLEEEE! you go and bring her name!
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: djavo on December 08, 2011, 08:36:47 pm
This is what happened to kapikulu kamils that sad night in desert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEjA1FbKWh4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEjA1FbKWh4)
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Niemand on December 08, 2011, 10:43:58 pm
This is what happened to kapikulu kamils that sad night in desert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEjA1FbKWh4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEjA1FbKWh4)


thats old. you came too late. The only thing that matters here is the name of that chick!
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Kocik_4th on December 10, 2011, 11:58:17 am
This is what happened to kapikulu kamils that sad night in desert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEjA1FbKWh4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEjA1FbKWh4)
fu moron do not share videos like that. you all (greece) will sink to the bottom like that poor camel.
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on December 10, 2011, 12:04:49 pm
This is what happened to kapikulu kamils that sad night in desert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEjA1FbKWh4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEjA1FbKWh4)

LOL LES NOOBS
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: BattalGazi on December 10, 2011, 03:06:35 pm
16 pages of drama and troll is enough. Locking ...
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: Cicero on December 10, 2011, 03:07:02 pm
16 pages of drama and troll is enough. Locking ...
no!!!
Title: Re: A story of Deception and Desert
Post by: BattalGazi on December 10, 2011, 03:07:51 pm
no!!!

Vallahi locked ...