A story of Deception and Desert

[okiN]

Also you language is threatening and that saddens me.

Not threatening, just understand that after this display we'll trust you about as far as we can throw you.

[Casimir]

Perhaps i'm just inferring threats then, so be it.

Anyway think what you will i wont be able to change that, i've had little to do with this due to real life circumstance and i don't fully understand the depths of what has gone on. As ever if i get a castle to have feasts in i'm happy.

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[BattalGazi]

Edit: Last Minute Addition: Yea I'm sorry to be the bad guy but this thread needs to have this information too.

After the betrayal, I was offered to stay in the region without any fiefs for some time, while Wolves&Templars were busy with destroying HRE & Fallen. And we recruiting troops in castles to support them while all this was happening to our only loyal allies. Eventually we might be offered a fief in the lands of the destroyed HRE. So a request for betraying our loyal allies and being loyal to our betrayers.

Sorry being like this, but community has to know ...

[Fluffy_Muffin]

Soooo..... You didnt get betrayed and all this drama was for nothing?  Or you got "betrayed" as a manouver to actualy support Temp/Wolves vs Fallen/HRE or you actualy got betrayed and you decided to betray the enemies of the betrayers? Im confus

[BattalGazi]

Soooo..... You didnt get betrayed and all this drama was for nothing?  Or you got "betrayed" as a manouver to actualy support Temp/Wolves vs Fallen/HRE or you actualy got betrayed and you decided to betray the enemies of the betrayers? Im confus

Dude, it is pretty obvious: all HRE, Wolves and Templars were our allies. They sent us support troops. However, Wolves and Templars betrayed us and the alliance and attacked us with their so called "support" armies. Then they asked to betray HRE, who is the only clan that we are still ally to and loyal to. Pretty clear.

[Fluffy_Muffin]

Im reading your previous post and im still pretty confused on which side are you on now

[Cicero]

Im reading your previous post and im still pretty confused on which side are you on now

come on dudeeee
high five!

[Xant]

I understood it just fine, so it's not the fault of the post.

[Nebun]

omg Kapikulu, we was so nice to you in the desert, let u trade in our lands, even stay for a while in one of our villages and you was planing to stab us in the back...
how could you? HOW COULD U?
my dream and hopes are broken against the wall of lies you said to us
how could we be so foolish to trust you 
what u did to us is hurtful

[RandomDude]

Hmm my knowledge of all the diplomacy in Strategus is sadly lacking even though I do ask.

All i know is that everyone who has been an enemy, will probably be your enemy forever. Anyone who isnt a friend could become a friend or enemy, but if you suspect them as an enemy KILL THEM ALL!!!

Helpful advice? probably not but i had to type something and its better than my last attempt

[Casimir]

Indeed, it is amazing how upset you get about being deceived when at the same time you deceive others.

We'll fight, and God will decide the truth of it.

[Nebun]

After this, I don't think I could ever trust anyone again!

[BattalGazi]

I guess you are trying to play with words here but it is obvious that we never decieved anyone so far.
We were allies with Byzntines, HRE, Wolves and Templars and agreed to fight against western clans and here is a list what happened:
* Byzantines deserted us and quit playing strategus. They all started to play Skyrim instead.
* HRE and Fallen is still our allies, the only loyal guys so far.
* Wolves and Templars deceived us including HRE and Fallen too. They sent us support armies which then turned into attack armies who are currently attacking our fiefs. They also asked us to betray HRE but we refused.
* Never had any deals with DRZ except their free trade zones.

So give up your word plays and embrace the truth. You ( Wolves and Templars ) played a real good game by being double sided. You ( Wolves and Templars ) betrayed Kapikulu, HRE and Fallen. You won over us, but now community shall remember you as the least trustworthy clans in the game.

[Nebun]

And i though we was friendly neighbours.
What did we ever do to u Kapikuku to deserve this. How could u ask us to stay at our village, which we provided for u and byzantium, and plan against us?
This is so low. I don't think memory of this will ever stop hurting me.

[Kocik_4th]

but now community shall remember you as the least trustworthy clans in the game.

community and guinness will remember you with wipe record.