There are less players at all times these days, those times when eu1 and eu2 were almost always full or after eu4 appeared it had 160+ players on and EU1 was still full are long gone, now there are rarely more than 100 players on EU1 (even between 18:00-22:00 GMT, that should be the peak hours), <50 on EU2 and 50-60 on a siege server (EU5 or 6). I guess many people are waiting for a fresh strategus start to give them a purpose for the crpg grind, others have exams and others have GTX because of the new patch (DaveUKR).
Also near christmas -> january holiday season and people could play more, now that the semester has started up again, its common sense that people are going to be less active :)
Hail comrade Donkey and his epic fail patch. Combat and Grinding balance is worser than ever before. Donkeys new target group are trash kids, hardcore fanboys and stacking clan gankers . I think this At fifteen, I had the will to learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ; at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the square. when the summer begins.
I really miss the (full) 160 player server with adult admins.
R.I.P. Pecores Server :rolleyes:
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Hail comrade Donkey and his epic fail patch. Combat and Grinding balance is worser than ever before. Donkeys new target group are trash kids, hardcore fanboys and stacking clan gankers . I think this At fifteen, I had the will to learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ; at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the square. when the summer begins.
It'll be dead roughly 11 months from now, actually. AND SO ARE WE ALL!!!
Its your RL picture? :mrgreen:Yeah he has an eagle stuck to his hair, horrible fate.
2012 is old news Bane, now the 2013 solar storms are the shit, with no electricity we will be sent back to medieval ages so you will get to play cRPG IRL, how cool is that?
Yes, you have to worry about there maybe being a solar storm in 2013! It's horrible, its effects could even *Gasp* be worse than an ash cloud's. But hey, don't worry, because it'd last shorter than an ash cloud.
Don't forget that there was a steam sale during the holidays / right before the patch. Lots of new players just giving it a try, and many leaving after some days, that's inevitable.
Player base looks stable to me.
But would it be international? If it's just Iceland getting scorched I can live with it. Also, 2013 is my holiday year, where I will fly to every country in the world (not visiting, just to the airports then on to another airport - I call it Airport Tour Twenty Thirteen, which is what it will say on the T-Shirt), so I am slightly concerned about this news, and don't appreciate your sarcastic tone!
How the hell would you know? :rolleyes:
Mate, you might want to check a search engine of your choice for the meaning of the word, protip, it's not based on the nick chadz or whatever gives you that paranoid impression.
shazbot = chadz :P
It'll be dead roughly 11 months from now, actually. AND SO ARE WE ALL!!!
11 months? U know we're still in 2011, which means we will still survive this X-mas and the new year.
It's someone who knows how to add the irc:// nick, but isn't in irc.
Because that's difficult to do.
That basically limits it to being 90% of the Warband player-base. =P
GTX because of the new patch, like DaveUKR.
- archery got nerfed
Mate, you might want to check a search engine of your choice for the meaning of the word, protip, it's not based on the nick chadz or whatever gives you that paranoid impression.
You've said that before, and you're still wrong. What diversity was there before? Everyone grinded to get to use the exact same weapons, exact same builds, exact same armor. The diversity of all these things is much greater now.
"But why should I have the same goal? There is no reason whatsoever for me to try and gather the largest playerbase possible. If it is a byproduct of me having fun while playing, that's great. But if I actually have to decide between maintaining a large playerbase or creating a fun game, well - I am sorry, I want to do something that I have fun doing. I am aware that is selfish, but when I wash a car, it's mine, not my neighbours'. (Not that I could afford one :D)"
We don't want your dirty, grinding unwashed masses. If Bonze is a representative of the tards not playing anymore, then all I can say is fuck yeah!
Well , say Thx to donkey. The blue text is my favorite part : He, comrade god him self (and the most "missing" players ) dont want dirty , team stacking , 24/7 , grinding, ganking, gold farming clans.:shock:
It wasn't a game any more, it was a grinding marathon. I know some liked that, but I didn't. I am not trying to create a free2play version of WoW here, and if some got that impression, I am sorry to have wasted your time.
Well , say Thx to donkey. The blue text is my favorite part : He, comrade god him self (and the most "missing" players ) dont want dirty , team stacking , 24/7 , grinding, ganking, gold farming clans.
:shock:
Nerf clans? :rolleyes:
You're right, it's such a shame that clans get to play with their players on the same team.... such a shame..... I'm weeping on the inside, really.....
Its called balance ...or sportsmanship.
sports·man·ship noun \-ˌship\Merriam Webster.
Definition of SPORTSMANSHIP
: conduct (as fairness, respect for one's opponent, and graciousness in winning or losing) becoming to one participating in a sport
sports·man·ship /ˈspɔrtsmənˌʃɪp, ˈspoʊrts-/ Show SpelledDictionary.com
[spawrts-muhn-ship, spohrts-]
noun
1. the character, practice, or skill of a sportsman.
2. sportsmanlike conduct, as fairness, courtesy, being a cheerful loser, etc.
sportsmanshipCollins Dictionary.net
Sportsmanship is behaviour and attitudes that show respect for the rules of a game and for the other players.
Sorry, no. Sports are seperated by teams, they don't mix players from each team or accept pubbies onto the field. Even in a pubbie match at your local field you seperate into pre-determined teams.
You've said that before, and you're still wrong. What diversity was there before? Everyone grinded to get to use the exact same weapons, exact same builds, exact same armor. The diversity of all these things is much greater now.
Idk. The numbers say cheaper plate with a cheaper weapon should be almost sustainable on the long run, but obviously you're going to need a good money buffer for it.
There is a number of 48-50 body armour rating armors which are definitely sustainable.
As the quality of the server admins decreases, so does the player population.
THERE ARE LESS PLAYERS, WHY AND DO WE CARE ?
You can't ignore the bad admin'ing factor. It was even addressed by a top server admin just a few days ago
solar flares
everyone somewhat trustworthy will be able to host a server, more or less.
I still have no idea what you really are talking about...
Edit: are you implying that the player base dropped by several hundred players because.. they all got banned?
as far as I know, there are two different NA servers, and as far as I know, they do not share any banlists or something. And the server admins in the unban forums cant delete threads, afaik.
Either way, for the next patch there are some ideas planned to make more server hostings available by making it easier to get access -> everyone somewhat trustworthy will be able to host a server, more or less.
There are 3 unique NA servers that do not share a banlist. The only servers that DO share a banlist are the NA-80 man server, the duel/strat server, and the siege server. The 100 man NA server has an independent banlist, and the "Fallen One" server has it's own banlist.
Personally, I find the idea of more servers to be disheartening, since we rarely fill the ones we've got these days. Never ANYONE on the "Fallen One" server that I've seen. The 80 man runs at half capacity these days, most likely because the other half are playing on NA siege. The 100 man server maintains a healthy, active population though, from what I've seen.
Don't knock TFO; it was the only NA server available for some time after the big patch was released. It's a haven for those who prefer smaller pop servers, and is a playground for RS and other cool cats.
And it comes at absolutely no cost to the community, because Scott is so generous to front its upkeep.
I never had problems with any admin (NE or EU), and i guess this is not the problem for a big majority of players, so that's not the point.
One other factor : players that wait for Strategus re-opening, they have their main character at lvl 30 (or 31...) so they don't mind level up anymore and they just wait to play their char in strat. And there is no need to lvl up an alt anymore, you only play it for pleasure now.
Without banner balance, the servers would be nearly empty.
There are some things I liked about the patch, but I do attribute our loss of playerbase to people not liking it so much. Since the patch basically makes it so that only a small, select group of people can ever use sets of top-end gear, a lot of other people probably feel bitter/disappointed, and so they don't play as often.
Furthermore, unnecessarily high cost of wpf over 100 has made hybrids the flavor of the day, so everyone in the game has a ranged weapon. I think this could be fixed easily, not by nerfing anyone, but by bringing back the old cost of wpf. This would make being a specialist worth it again.
WPF cost wasn't the problem before anyhow. The problem before was with people who were generation 15, with 250 wpf from wpf retirement exploit, and level 42. Bring back old wpf costs to add more variety to builds! Vote YES for CHOICE!
Also, for the last time I promise, it's fewer players. Not less. Fewer. :P
Sorry, it's not my mother language. So may I assume it's like much - less and many - fewer? :?grmpf, tried to explain it but i got absolutely confused as well. basicly much and less are for uncountable things like time, hair, money. many and fewer are for countable things like persons, players, houses, etc. But when I thought about how "more" is to categorized in this I gave up. :|
Never ANYONE on the "Fallen One" server that I've seen.
However, I looked for the server the other day during peak time to consider playing there, and there was no one on it at all.
I then backed up that opinion with facts.
To sum it up, you looked on the server once so you conclude never anyone plays there?
nice research for your facts!
Well... i stopped playing because for some reason from about a month ago to nowadays my ping is really bad. I have costant lag spikes when i'm close to the enemies, and i don't know why... so is quite unplayable for me.
Yeah, we learned that at the first year of English, many is for countable things, much for uncountable things. I can't hear "much and many" any more :mrgreen:
Ninja-edited the topic title :wink:
Joker, you make me happy. :D It's a very common grammar error that native English speakers make all the time.
I've studied German extensively, never heard the "anderst" thing before. Weird. :)
Then you will be even more confused by what the people make out of "eben" (= "just", "now", "plain"...): they pronounce (and sometimes even write!) it "ebend". :shock:
I have even noticed some of ze Germanz pronounce "ich" like "isch" and not "ih". Or am I just hearing wrong?
I am waiting for someone to state that Germans have a very strange perception of gender, for example a girl in Germany is neuter.
And you can do nothing agianst it except preserving the written language.
I am waiting for someone to state that Germans have a very strange perception of gender, for example a girl in Germany is neuter.
Ancient germans had inverted morality, where gay sex was cool and mating with a woman was considered weak :D Always made me laugh.
Did you see that in a docu on Fox?
No, it was an ancient roman history writer who described the germans and wrote that down, as well as the weird habit to put some flesh under the saddle and eat some of it while moving. Horsesweat somehow kept it from going bad(must be the salt in it), but it wasn't something nice to eat either :D Does fox now do documentaries ? I thought they were a series channel only.
You should read some original or translated texts from the ancients, so many myths can be busted this way. For example many celt fans say the druids didn't do human sacrifices, while we find detailed descriptions on how and when they would do them. Which is also the reason their religion was outlawed and we know so little of it today.
"ebend" is ruhrpott and i've known it since the 90s but only in the meaning of "exactly".
In general I agree with you joker to some degree, but you also have to consider that this is the way languages have allways and will allways evolve. In long therm view (like several hundred years) new languages arise in this manner. Like from ancient greek and latin to roman languages. Of course you can discuss whether it is evolution or decay but in my opinion this is irrelevant and in either way new languages evolve adequate to the needs of people. And you can do nothing agianst it except preserving the written language.
topic hijacked.
you do realize that roman sources are biased against barbarian nations, right?
Did you see that in a docu on Fox?
you do realize that roman sources are biased against barbarian nations, right?biased? They invented them.
Not all were biased, and they were reporting facts not opinions. Also they knew the germans very well and even hired some german horsemen to fight with them. They also had direct contact with the celts (they conquered them), so the facts they reported can be considered accurate enough. If the druids eviscerated people to foretell the future of a battle by the way the man died and how his intestines moved, it isn't the ancient romans' fault :? I mean facts with details, even some druids were named and we know they had direct contact with both populations, what else do you want. You can chose to believe myths and legends without any source if you want, but that's not history.uh, I heavily disagree. All historical documents are biased and especially the ones in that time period. You can try to approach what might have happened at that time but I would be very careful with the word "fact".
Not all were biased, and they were reporting facts not opinions. Also they knew the germans very well and even hired some german horsemen to fight with them. They also had direct contact with the celts (they conquered them), so the facts they reported can be considered accurate enough. If the druids eviscerated people to foretell the future of a battle by the way the man died and how his intestines moved, it isn't the ancient romans' fault :? I mean facts with details, even some druids were named and we know they had direct contact with both populations, what else do you want. You can chose to believe myths and legends without any source if you want, but that's not history.