Fewer players now?

[Kong Ming]

Change is hard.  Seriously though, I'm sure with Strategus frozen, many players are just on less consistently because of the lack of a need for consistency.  When Strategus is running again this will change.  Also, it hasn't seemed to be an issue imo.  The servers still have plenty enough players on them at all times of the day.  Also, for the last time I promise, it's fewer players.  Not less.  Fewer.   

[Gorath]

I still have no idea what you really are talking about...
Edit: are you implying that the player base dropped by several hundred players because.. they all got banned?

Well.... There ARE alot of fucktards on the internet.....
 

[Kong Ming]

Yeah. Hey, you ever go on the Internet? They got some cool stuff there on that Internet.

[Heroin]

as far as I know, there are two different NA servers, and as far as I know, they do not share any banlists or something. And the server admins in the unban forums cant delete threads, afaik.

Either way, for the next patch there are some ideas planned to make more server hostings available by making it easier to get access -> everyone somewhat trustworthy will be able to host a server, more or less.

There are 3 unique NA servers that do not share a banlist. The only servers that DO share a banlist are the NA-80 man server, the duel/strat server, and the siege server. The 100 man NA server has an independent banlist, and the "Fallen One" server has it's own banlist.

Personally, I find the idea of more servers to be disheartening, since we rarely fill the ones we've got these days. Never ANYONE on the "Fallen One" server that I've seen. The 80 man runs at half capacity these days, most likely because the other half are playing on NA siege. The 100 man server maintains a healthy, active population though, from what I've seen.

[Rhaelys]

There are 3 unique NA servers that do not share a banlist. The only servers that DO share a banlist are the NA-80 man server, the duel/strat server, and the siege server. The 100 man NA server has an independent banlist, and the "Fallen One" server has it's own banlist.

Personally, I find the idea of more servers to be disheartening, since we rarely fill the ones we've got these days. Never ANYONE on the "Fallen One" server that I've seen. The 80 man runs at half capacity these days, most likely because the other half are playing on NA siege. The 100 man server maintains a healthy, active population though, from what I've seen.

Don't knock TFO; it was the only NA server available for some time after the big patch was released. It's a haven for those who prefer smaller pop servers, and is a playground for RS and other cool cats.

And it comes at absolutely no cost to the community, because Scott is so generous to front its upkeep.

[Heroin]

Don't knock TFO; it was the only NA server available for some time after the big patch was released. It's a haven for those who prefer smaller pop servers, and is a playground for RS and other cool cats.

And it comes at absolutely no cost to the community, because Scott is so generous to front its upkeep.

I don't believe I "knocked" anything at all. I said I didn't like the idea of MORE servers than what we currently have. I then backed up that opinion with facts.

I haven't been vocal in any opinion at all regarding the TFO server. I played there while the other NA servers were down, and it was good to have a server that wasn't malfunctioning. However, I looked for the server the other day during peak time to consider playing there, and there was no one on it at all.

[BD_Guard_Bane]

I never had problems with any admin (NE or EU), and i guess this is not the problem for a big majority of players, so that's not the point.

One other factor : players that wait for Strategus re-opening, they have their main character at lvl 30 (or 31...) so they don't mind level up anymore and they just wait to play their char in strat. And there is no need to lvl up an alt anymore, you only play it for pleasure now.
Without banner balance, the servers would be nearly empty.

This is actually quite a big factor I think. I know quite a few people (most of my clan) who don't play as often now because they are waiting for the next Strategus patch.

Not that cRPG isn't fun to play, just that Strategus gives it more purpose. Once you've played all the builds you want and used all the gear you wanted to try out, its like a training ground for something bigger - strategus. cRPG is like native expanded with more features, but Strategus is what TW should have made for their multiplayer - single player, but in multiplayer. It gives so many more options for people who want to play together as a clan (banner balance is a good way in the meantime).

All it needs is for going it alone to be viable as well, and it'll be perfect.

[Camaris]

There are some things I liked about the patch, but I do attribute our loss of playerbase to people not liking it so much. Since the patch basically makes it so that only a small, select group of people can ever use sets of top-end gear, a lot of other people probably feel bitter/disappointed, and so they don't play as often.

Furthermore, unnecessarily high cost of wpf over 100 has made hybrids the flavor of the day, so everyone in the game has a ranged weapon. I think this could be fixed easily, not by nerfing anyone, but by bringing back the old cost of wpf. This would make being a specialist worth it again.

WPF cost wasn't the problem before anyhow. The problem before was with people who were generation 15, with 250 wpf from wpf retirement exploit, and level 42. Bring back old wpf costs to add more variety to builds! Vote YES for CHOICE!

I manage to play in Full-Plate quite often. Im in a small group? Probalby not.

[Joker86]

Also, for the last time I promise, it's fewer players.  Not less.  Fewer.   

Sorry, it's not my mother language. So may I assume it's like much - less and many - fewer? 

[The_Bloody_Nine]

Sorry, it's not my mother language. So may I assume it's like much - less and many - fewer? 

grmpf, tried to explain it but i got absolutely confused as well. basicly much and less are for uncountable things like time, hair, money. many and fewer are for countable things like persons, players, houses, etc. But when I thought about how "more" is to categorized in this I gave up. 

oh, reading it again makes it simple, more you is an comparison to much and many. and of course the player base can only be smaller, but who cares anyway?

[Joker86]

Yeah, we learned that at the first year of English, many is for countable things, much for uncountable things. I can't hear "much and many" any more 

Ninja-edited the topic title 

[krampe]

Never ANYONE on the "Fallen One" server that I've seen.

However, I looked for the server the other day during peak time to consider playing there, and there was no one on it at all.

I then backed up that opinion with facts.

To sum it up, you looked on the server once so you conclude never anyone plays there?
nice research for your facts!

[Bothersome_Aldryk]

I often wish that the server caps were a decent bit smaller, so that the population would spread out more to other servers. I don't really enjoy playing on 70+ population servers, and oftentimes almost the entire North American population is on the NA or the Siege Server with almost no one on the other servers. A bit sad for players like me who prefer a mid sized amount.

[Miriam]

Well... i stopped playing because for some reason from about a month ago to nowadays my ping is really bad. I have costant lag spikes when i'm close to the enemies, and i don't know why... so is quite unplayable for me.

[Heroin]

To sum it up, you looked on the server once so you conclude never anyone plays there?
nice research for your facts!

I added it to my favorites when I found it. So now I see it every time I go to join another game, and I've still never seen anyone on it.