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Title: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 25, 2011, 10:11:22 am
Split NA and EU plz?
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Bobthehero on July 25, 2011, 10:12:29 am
37 hours in a row without sleep, you can do it too.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Gingerpussy on July 25, 2011, 10:25:32 am
Yes SPLIT THE SERVERS
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 25, 2011, 10:29:10 am
Gotta get my beauty sleep those eye bags are killing me, plz chadz!
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Gorath on July 25, 2011, 10:30:57 am
37 hours in a row without sleep, you can do it too.

No, it's sunday, meaning the work week starts again promptly at 5am tomorrow morning.  Fuck the EU/NA let's fight at stupid times shit.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on July 25, 2011, 10:33:23 am
No, it's sunday, meaning the work week starts again promptly at 5am tomorrow morning.  Fuck the EU/NA let's fight at stupid times shit.


You have this too? It seems I was the only one who started work at 5 am :S
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 25, 2011, 10:35:20 am
These hours are getting retarted.
Battle's been fought over timetable's. Its retarted.

You cant kill, that has no life.

But they can win on strategus
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Largg on July 25, 2011, 11:38:17 am
This strategus thing seems to be serious business  :lol:
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: dado on July 25, 2011, 11:44:22 am
 SPLIT NA/EU
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Everkistus on July 25, 2011, 11:58:56 am
This is no problem for clans that have about 50/50 Eu/NA population.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 25, 2011, 12:13:18 pm
I dont think there are many clans like that
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Gingerpussy on July 25, 2011, 12:52:00 pm
This is no problem for clans that have about 50/50 Eu/NA population.
Well only fallen have that
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Magikarp on July 25, 2011, 01:06:54 pm
This is no problem for clans that have about 50/50 Eu/NA population.
Bias anyone?
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Lako on July 25, 2011, 01:11:01 pm
Splitting is the only solution imho..
(and the main problem isn't timesone, but ping with NA)
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Thovex on July 25, 2011, 01:21:20 pm
This is no problem for clans that have about 50/50 Eu/NA population.

Fallen, Acre, SoA.

This is it?
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Vibe on July 25, 2011, 01:49:53 pm
Pft, clearly every clan has 50 NA and 50 EU population, now stop whining.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Darkkarma on July 25, 2011, 01:51:45 pm
This is no problem for clans that have about 50/50 Eu/NA population.

This is so typical after all.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 25, 2011, 02:45:59 pm
Nvm

This turned into a bump
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Frankysan on July 25, 2011, 04:40:46 pm
i work at 7 in the morning....playign late in the night is a thing, having to stop sleeping...meh
splitbump!
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Flawless on July 25, 2011, 04:51:41 pm
Please split NA/EU. Three 5 or 3 am battles in a row on EST.
Hurry, before I catch a divorce.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: SHinOCk on July 25, 2011, 05:16:42 pm
Keep NA and EU linked, this is war ffs, don't become casual friendly like 99% of the games, ppl that cant make it can just let their spot... I sure as hell wont be able to make it for 5am battles all the time but i will still wake up sometimes and fight just for the fun of it
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Lizard_man on July 25, 2011, 05:28:05 pm
i say split it, clans been able to win battles that they have no chance of winning just because hardly anyone turns up shouldn't be what this game is about, i'm not really bothered by the ping, but the time at which battles are been fought just suck, even if it was split battles would still pop up at horrible times, but at least it would be a horrible time for both sides, lessening the advantage that these battles are giving to certain sides because of the time difference...
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Temudjin on July 25, 2011, 05:33:02 pm
Keep NA and EU linked, this is war ffs, don't become casual friendly like 99% of the games, ppl that cant make it can just let their spot... I sure as hell wont be able to make it for 5am battles all the time but i will still wake up sometimes and fight just for the fun of it

that's quite sad...
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Gnjus on July 25, 2011, 05:34:08 pm
Keep NA and EU linked, this is war ffs, don't become casual friendly like 99% of the games,

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Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Lizard_man on July 25, 2011, 05:35:06 pm
ahahahhahahah, EPIC!
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: karasu on July 25, 2011, 05:43:39 pm
A split is needed for obvious reasons stated several times over and over again....

+1
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Nessaj on July 25, 2011, 05:46:31 pm
I fully support a split whenever it is possible imo, there are two servers anyway. If not for the current version then when the new Strategus arrives.

The problem is that, 6 am for us is 'perfect' evening for the Americans, but 6am for them is ~5pm for us = work/dinner time. Top of that, the lag, which is bad for both sides

Postulating that global recruitment would fix that is false and not the norm either, for a good reason.

We could talk about allowing NA to use the EU map and vice versa, but I would personally be in favor of only regulating people to their native region, or at least only allow your character to participate in one region at a time, but that would still mean people could use the huge time differences to their advantage, which again leaves one region with a vast upperhand. Night attacks are lame, they're even more lame when it's not even a 'night' attack for the attackers :)

It should be on a 'list of TO DO' somewhere for the developers.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 25, 2011, 05:50:00 pm
This is no problem for clans that have about 50/50 Eu/NA population.

Later in strategus, someone like The Fallen should get together with a few other folks and then just send a bunch of micro attacks against a clan every 2 hours for a whole day, win via sleep deprivation against the poor buggers! Continue this for three days solid.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Corwin on July 25, 2011, 05:56:09 pm
SPLIT IT!!! It's plain common sense.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 25, 2011, 06:04:24 pm
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This is a textbook example of epic win
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Sultan_Khalifa on July 25, 2011, 06:14:23 pm
Later in strategus, someone like The Fallen should get together with a few other folks and then just send a bunch of micro attacks against a clan every 2 hours for a whole day, win via sleep deprivation against the poor buggers! Continue this for three days solid.

it happen for a week in old strat didn't realy work

when you guys say split up do you mean

as strat for EU only and a strat for NA

if that's what you guys are talking about then its stupid

why split up the player base even more there are only a handful of NA clans that can support strat
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Elindor on July 25, 2011, 06:20:17 pm
i agree with splitting them....for what its worth.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Chagan_Arslan on July 25, 2011, 06:34:35 pm
instead of splitting, i suggest changing the "save server preference" feature that connects server type with individual player to a server preference by territory area on the map

lets say half of the map be played in NA perfect time and on NA servers, while the rest of the map being played in EU perfect times and on EU servers

this will keep community on one map, just making them to change their "claims", and NA/EU clans would obviously want to sit on the border of those two different timezones areas, where EU would be dealing with stuff on one side and NA on the other

EU conquering NA or vice versa would still be possible, but you couldnt really complain about hour the battle takes place as its your choice to move into that territory
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Inequity on July 25, 2011, 06:42:32 pm
Keep NA and EU linked, this is war ffs, don't become casual friendly like 99% of the games, ppl that cant make it can just let their spot... I sure as hell wont be able to make it for 5am battles all the time but i will still wake up sometimes and fight just for the fun of it

Do you have autism?
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 25, 2011, 06:53:21 pm
Do you have autism?

Autism primarily effects Empathy not Intelligence.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Hydro on July 25, 2011, 06:55:16 pm
You could make a deal with a NA clan if ur EU, or the other way around, to help each other out when having to defend at night time.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: _JoG_ on July 25, 2011, 06:59:06 pm
Diplomacy, that's what you need. Find some Euro/NA friends who will fight for you if your clan can't make it. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Olwen on July 25, 2011, 07:13:57 pm
Diplomacy, that's what you need. Find some Euro/NA friends who will fight for you if your clan can't make it. Problem solved.

dat ^^ war is war, do ya think that when people attacked others during the night the other guys went like : fu i'm working tomorrow, need to sleep, leave me alone and go fight people who aren't sleeping atm

then i don't give a fuck if you split continents or not, if i needed NA friends i'd look for NA friends and if i was to play with EU only i'd have EU friends ... won't wake up at 6a.m. to play anyway
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: dodnet on July 25, 2011, 07:26:58 pm
I say split it up too. If I look at the list of upcoming battles theres only 1/7 battles I would be able to play. Thats a bit senseless...
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: SPQR on July 25, 2011, 07:29:07 pm
dat ^^ war is war, do ya think that when people attacked others during the night the other guys went like : fu i'm working tomorrow, need to sleep, leave me alone and go fight people who aren't sleeping atm

The whole point of a simulated war game is to get all the interesting aspects of war without the horrible stuff. Sleep deprivation may be "realistic" but that doesn't mean its good, or fun. To have enough players to cover both EU and NA timeslots you have to be absolutely huge. Only a handful of clans can manage that.

Finding other clans to fight for you, is also not fun. This is a game afterall, and the goal should be to make things fun and interesting, not a grind to see who gives up from being more miserable first.

The idea presented before was a two continent approach, with a small peninsula that connected them. NA would be on one continent, EU on the other. If you're really determined to fight on both, you can, if not, then just stay away from the other continent. It would also give more room for small clans to stand a chance instead of being squished in amongst the larger ones.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Olwen on July 25, 2011, 07:30:10 pm
I say split it up too. If I look at the list of upcoming battles theres only 1/7 battles I would be able to play. Thats a bit senseless...

let's make strategus battles only when this guy is able play


@ up : i have no doubt that you guys are having lot of fun spying on each other, hacking each other, plotting against each other, and all the dramas you made :x

it's not about sleep deprivation but you just have an ego problem (lol coming from me), you don't want to get people to fight for you when you could and then you whine it's unfair ... it's like i want to rule the map with a 20 guys private clan and whine because other factions have 5 times more people ...

if you gave room for every clan then what's the point ? living peacefully next to each other ? sorry, there's no chicks playing warband so it's pointless, go play the sims ...
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Digglez on July 25, 2011, 07:31:17 pm
Not enough players to make a split worth it or interesting enough.  Not to mention you'll still have the same problem unless battle windows are enforced.  Then you'll have ppl on the coasts whining that the windows arent fair

6pm EST - 2AM EST


Quote from: East coast complainer
OMG WTF I went to sleep at 11pm EST and then these west coast hippy fuckers came in and fucked my village!!
Quote from: west coast douchebag
WAHHHH I was still at work at 5pm and these bad guys came and took my town!

There for the solution is to do nothing.

Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 25, 2011, 07:42:19 pm
Fallen Brigade    Dusturil    Tue, 03:00    7298
The Eastern Tsardom    Hanun    Tue, 04:00    9747
Knights Hospitaller    Shapeshte    Tue, 05:00    9747
Lots and Lots of Jolly Knights    Ayn Assuadi [PECORES]    Tue, 05:00    7298
Kingdom of the Blackrose    Amere [Free Companies Of Calradia]    Tue, 06:00    9747

Free villages.....

Stop this bullshit.

+1 for split
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 25, 2011, 07:45:38 pm
Fallen Brigade    Dusturil    Tue, 03:00    7298
The Eastern Tsardom    Hanun    Tue, 04:00    9747
Knights Hospitaller    Shapeshte    Tue, 05:00    9747
Lots and Lots of Jolly Knights    Ayn Assuadi [PECORES]    Tue, 05:00    7298
Kingdom of the Blackrose    Amere [Free Companies Of Calradia]    Tue, 06:00    9747

Free villages.....

Stop this bullshit.

+1 for split
All but one of those attacking clans are NA, and the one that is not is about 30-40% NA.
When we have village fights that late, a large amount of opposition usually shows up from other NA folks.

Granted, the LLJK VS Pecores is a brutal time slot, but the Blackrose VS the FCC is NA VS NA, and thus a very bad example.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 25, 2011, 07:49:02 pm
All but one of those attacking clans are NA, and the one that is not is about 30-40% NA.
When we have village fights that late, a large amount of opposition usually shows up from other NA folks.

Granted, the LLJK VS Pecores is a brutal time slot, but the Blackrose VS the FCC is NA VS NA, and thus a very bad example.
Is true. But EU players will have to be up all night, if they want to fight as defenders.... in order to scout equipment,tactics and battle outcomes etc when fighting for the AI

It works both way. EU has a hard time scouting NA.. and the other way around.

I think for battle's to be fair, strategus needs to be split.

I guess those clans that have both EU and NA player is will be bad. But i guess even on regular CRPG, they will have a hard time actually fighting together.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: dodnet on July 25, 2011, 08:00:10 pm
it's not about sleep deprivation but you just have an ego problem (lol coming from me), you don't want to get people to fight for you when you could and then you whine it's unfair ...

If I need others to fight my battles Im not needed anymore... so why should I play this game at all? For me Strategus is about fighting battles on the field and not about pushing soldiers around a map and let others fight only.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Digglez on July 25, 2011, 08:04:05 pm
lol like these ppl have never played a game with city sieges before:
Shadowbane, Pirates of the Buring Sea, Eve Online, Dark Age of Camelot, Warhammer

this isnt a new problem.  honestly if you arent tough enough quit crying or get out
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 25, 2011, 08:06:33 pm
Ah yes... EVE... the game where if you die, you are dead permanently (though at least your killer will gain a sizeable bounty and a free pass to be killed without reprocussions) and also the game where you can log bakc in to find that someone blew up half of your ships, potentially you as well, and that the bank ship where you were storing your money is now gone/robbed/blown to smithereenies!

There is no comparison.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Lizard_man on July 25, 2011, 08:10:01 pm
honestly if you arent tough enough quit crying or get out

let's see how you enjoy playing when you have battles that don't allow you to get much sleep if you want to participate...
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 25, 2011, 08:12:01 pm
It's just a game at the end of the day.  Some people decide that a video game is worth sacrificing their sleep, job and personal relationships for.  That is a personal choice you will have to make.  Some of us choose to try and find a nice balance.  A video game will never take precedence over my personal relationships or my job.  My sleep will sometimes be sacrificed for video games and other things I deem worth it.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Olwen on July 25, 2011, 08:12:53 pm
pushing soldiers around a map is one of the key features of strategus, without it it's just pointless, you can still lead and play in your attacks, did someone ever see a king fighting in all his battles ? defensive and offensive ones ? i'd be impressed


for Digglez, i played DAoC for many years  :lol: started in the open beta with War Legends (Mid-Broc) then El Ereb (Hib-Ys) french servers ftw :p though DAoC wasn't mixed EU/NA til mythic gave it up, now everyone is on american server but there isn't ping problems :p most epic pvp game ever ;)

@lizard just let others play ;)

i'm kinda defending not to split even if i wouldn't get any advantage from it, but it's just pointless imo
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 25, 2011, 08:13:53 pm
lol like these ppl have never played a game with city sieges before:
Shadowbane, Pirates of the Buring Sea, Eve Online, Dark Age of Camelot, Warhammer

this isnt a new problem.  honestly if you arent tough enough quit crying or get out

Actually Shadowbane and DaoC both had NA and EU servers... untill the playerbase shrinked, and they had to merge servers.

Eve Online realizes this msitake now.. and wish they took a diffrent approach. The leftover gams you emantioned... well the developers realized they would never reach high populated servers if they didnt combine NA with EU.

Since WoW alot of mmorpgs got drained of players. Most past games like Shadowsbane,DaoC,Ultima online.... etc had so many players... that there was actually several seperate servers. For french / german / spanish / english and American players.

But since chadz and Co isnt a big company , chadz can still decide.

Might as well get your facts straight first. or get out.. lol

Your comment is invalid... and only shows how much of a "Tough Internet Nerd" you are.

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Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 25, 2011, 08:21:13 pm
pushing soldiers around a map is one of the key features of strategus, without it it's just pointless, you can still lead and play in your attacks, did someone ever see a king fighting in all his battles ? defensive and offensive ones ? i'd be impressed


for Digglez, i played DAoC for many years  :lol: started in the open beta with War Legends (Mid-Broc) then El Ereb (Hib-Ys) french servers ftw :p though DAoC wasn't mixed EU/NA til mythic gave it up, now everyone is on american server but there isn't ping problems :p most epic pvp game ever ;)

@lizard just let others play ;)

i'm kinda defending not to split even if i wouldn't get any advantage from it, but it's just pointless imo

Sure man. Would love to see that. Send out an army overnight, with none of your clan or allies singing up for it. And recruit only the randomers that singed up. lets see how your army is doing in the morning...
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Digglez on July 25, 2011, 08:21:41 pm
Guess you missed the point of my posts, none of those games besides Pirates of the Burning Sea had battle time windows and they did just fine.  People would often ninja stuff in the middle of the night (PLAYERS FROM SAME CONTINENT) without resistance.

Splitting NA from EU does nothing if you dont have battle time windows.  There are people in both regions that dont work 9-5 jobs that can still attack shit in the middle of the night just like now.

Your arguments are pretty uninformed and short sighted.  Instead of whining your village got sacked at 4am in the morning, try putting together coherent thoughts for a solution besides...SPLIT SPLIT SPLIT.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 25, 2011, 08:24:24 pm
Guess you missed the point of my posts, none of those games besides Pirates of the Burning Sea had battle time windows and they did just fine.  People would often ninja stuff in the middle of the night (PLAYERS FROM SAME CONTINENT) without resistance.

Splitting NA from EU does nothing if you dont have battle time windows.  There are people in both regions that dont work 9-5 jobs that can still attack shit in the middle of the night just like now.

Your arguments are pretty uninformed and short sighted.  Instead of whining your village got sacked at 4am in the morning, try putting together coherent thoughts for a solution besides...SPLIT SPLIT SPLIT.

Let me reflect that back on you. Why would you be against a split ?

Your arguments are pretty uninformed and short sighted.

i expect a good read back from you :wink:
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: CtrlAltDe1337 on July 25, 2011, 08:27:35 pm
I'm NA and I agree with a split...make two separate continents with an ocean in the middle, and make all the servers on 1 continent EU and the other NA.  Then if people want to cross the water, they can but nobody will force them to.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 25, 2011, 08:33:20 pm
I'm NA and I agree with a split...make two separate continents with an ocean in the middle, and make all the servers on 1 continent EU and the other NA.  Then if people want to cross the water, they can but nobody will force them to.

Seems like a good idea, this way chadz doesnt have an added cost for a seperate server.

Cant recall wich game it was, but i remember playing a game that had a time window.. in wich certain castle's where vulnarable for attacks.

Might be an idea. For both sides to have an attack window at day times. and everything be locked down on night times. So if EU wants to attack NA, at least NA will be fighting at day times.. If you catch my drift

Dunno havent realy thought this over in detail.. but i guess 2 seperates continents and something wih an attack window, might do the trick.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Zanthos on July 25, 2011, 08:43:57 pm
I could be entirely way off base here... but more food for thought. Some of the old seasoned Strat veterans can speak to the validity of this.

Facts...
NA players hate playing on EU servers due to lag.
NA players hate playing at battles scheduled around EU hours.
EU players hate playing on NA servers due to lag.
EU players hate playing at battles scheduled around NA hours.

This existed in old Strat, but at the time the NA community was smaller. Now, with the influx of NA players/clans and new servers, there is more activity occuring on the NA servers during NA preferred hours. In the past, NA players had little options or choices. Loooong ago, it was purely EU or GTFO. Now, there has been a very much appreciated interest in supporting the NA community from the development team. There is a growing community with more organized support behind the NA playerbase. EU still has the larger numbers... but the reality is that there is going to be much more activity from the NA front as opposed to the past.

So the question is... should both sides just suck it up and deal with the hours/lag and work through diplomacy with their counterparts across the pond to help maintain proper coverage in battles??? Or... split the servers.

My fear with a simple split is that there really is not enough people to warrant it (at least not on the NA side). The map would be dominated by a few and armies would be spread thin to try and cover the area. I would also fear that a large majority of battles would constantly be against the same opponents and would reduce overall diplomatic side of Strat. A split will definitely reduce the issue of playing in a lagged to hell server... and it may reduce the number of odd hour battles... but it will not eliminate them. I could be entirely wrong, but that's just what I envision.

Other solutions like attack windows or something else... maybe that's the way to go. Sorry, not great at offering solutions... just throwing out my useless .02
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Bjarky on July 25, 2011, 08:46:24 pm
I'm NA and I agree with a split...make two separate continents with an ocean in the middle, and make all the servers on 1 continent EU and the other NA.  Then if people want to cross the water, they can but nobody will force them to.
This would certainly make trade even more interesting for us  :D
+1
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Olwen on July 25, 2011, 08:52:13 pm
Sure man. Would love to see that. Send out an army overnight, with none of your clan or allies singing up for it. And recruit only the randomers that singed up. lets see how your army is doing in the morning...

true, you're clever jambi, intelligent enough to say it's not cool not to be able to hire your clanmates which are EU for example if you attacked at NA time, man i don't understand why things are this way

/irony off

logic, don't try it if you failed at it
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 25, 2011, 08:54:01 pm
This would certainly make trade even more interesting for us  :D
+1

Trade across the water? between the 2 continents?

Would be very nice. Troops/Equipment/Gold send by transport ships.. with additional warships as escort?

Pirate Clans get a chance...

Ahha would be so awesome, if it was like that :-)
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Digglez on July 25, 2011, 08:54:19 pm
Let me reflect that back on you. Why would you be against a split ?

Your arguments are pretty uninformed and short sighted.

i expect a good read back from you :wink:

Because splitting them wont stop people (on your continent) from attacking you in the middle of the night, duh.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Raxmus on July 25, 2011, 08:54:43 pm
Attacking an NA faction needs to be during an NA prime-time window. ( 17:00 - 23:00 UTC - 05:00 )
Attacking an EU faction needs to be during an EU prime-time window. ( 17:00 - 23:00 UTC + 01:00 )

There is no other way to implement an attack/defend system properly.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 25, 2011, 08:55:13 pm
true, you're clever jambi, intelligent enough to say it's not cool not to be able to hire your clanmates which are EU for example if you attacked at NA time, man i don't understand why things are this way

/irony off

logic, don't try it if you failed at it

Im hero, i can say w/e Olwen  :lol:
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 25, 2011, 08:57:11 pm
Because splitting them wont stop people (on your continent) from attacking you in the middle of the night, duh.

Yeah. But at least both attackers and defenders will face the same problem.. that some people have lives, and refuse to play at crazy night times.
Were facing a latency problem as well, remember?? You did not adress this at all in your comment


Your arguments are pretty uninformed and short sighted.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Olwen on July 25, 2011, 08:58:17 pm
you're just a wet chick dancing on the bar at midnight after drinking a 33cl beer glass
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Raxmus on July 25, 2011, 08:59:23 pm
you're just a wet chick dancing on the bar at midnight after drinking a 33cl beer glass

Ad hominem isn't a logical argument.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Digglez on July 25, 2011, 09:00:09 pm
Attacking an NA faction needs to be during an NA prime-time window. ( 17:00 - 23:00 UTC - 05:00 )
Attacking an EU faction needs to be during an EU prime-time window. ( 17:00 - 23:00 UTC + 01:00 )

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OMG this isnt fair, I work 2nd/3rd shift, so I cant play in strategus.

So where this is going?


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Yeah. But at least both attackers and defenders will face the same problem.. that some people have lives, and refuse to play at crazy night times. 

Actually it will be WORSE, because now the late nite attackers wont have a ping disadvantage.  Current system works great, you either choose your attack time or ping
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 25, 2011, 09:00:44 pm
you're just a wet chick dancing on the bar at midnight after drinking a 33cl beer glass

Is that how i appear to you, in your fantasy ?  :P
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Raxmus on July 25, 2011, 09:01:57 pm
So where this is going?

There is no perfect system, that is self evident, that said it is the best system that supports the majority of players. People don't work every single day, 99% of MMORPG player events are set during prime time for the majority of players' time zones. It is the fault of the person working 2nd/3rd shift they desire to play a highly social game.

Actually it will be WORSE, because now the late nite attackers wont have a ping disadvantage.  Current system works great, you either choose your attack time or ping

The opposing side has no say in the attack times. Defender should always have default advantage. Simple risk/reward mechanics.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Digglez on July 25, 2011, 09:04:26 pm
The opposing side has no say in the attack times. Defender should always have default advantage. Simple risk/reward mechanics.

I never said they did.  Its in reference to splitting NA/EU without battle windows.  Now people on your own continent (without ping disadvantage) will be attacking you in the middle of the night.

As it stands, the off-hours attackers are at a big ping disadvantage, since defenders get home advantage
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 25, 2011, 09:05:34 pm
Alternate Idea:
Ban NA from Strategus, as was Paul's suggestion.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 25, 2011, 09:06:30 pm
So where this is going?


Actually it will be WORSE, because now the late nite attackers wont have a ping disadvantage.  Current system works great, you either choose your attack time or ping

Ping doesnt matter if you attack in the middle of the night, because nobody will show up anyways to fight against you.

IE When BRD attacked Amere(Mercs) at 5 AM in the morning. We actually had a full roster. We accepted loads of players. Yet only 3 showed up. So dos it then still matter your playing with a 200+ ping ?

Question. Do you actually play Strategus yourself?
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Raxmus on July 25, 2011, 09:06:42 pm
I never said they did.  Its in reference to splitting NA/EU without battle windows.  Now people on your own continent (without ping disadvantage) will be attacking you in the middle of the night.

As it stands, the off-hours attackers are at a big ping disadvantage, since defenders get home advantage

This is true; that said with the current system NA and EU factions are free to attack in the middle of the night as well if they so choose.

The issue is defenders have no say in attack time.

Alternate Idea:
Ban NA from Strategus, as was Paul's suggestion.

Agreed. Filthy American scumbags.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 25, 2011, 09:07:44 pm
This is true; that said with the current system NA factions are free to attack in the middle of the night as well if they so choose.

*coughcoughCHAOSAttackingAt2AMEastCoastTimecoughcough*
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 25, 2011, 09:09:10 pm
Alternate Idea:
Ban NA from Strategus, as was Paul's suggestion.

Meh, i think NA should have there own Strategus.

If the NA playerbase is realy that small as some people claim. I bet chadz can make a smaller Strategus map.. with fewer fiefs etc.

And prolly for the Chinese CRPG players, chadz can make a Strategus map with 10-15 fiefs :D

I think it is well possible, to make a smaller strategus map.. that is in balance with the player base. 3-4 medium sized clan, can perfectly fight.. and coordinate over a map the size of the Sarranid desert IE
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Different on July 25, 2011, 09:11:22 pm
Yea split Strategus.. it does not hurt anyone... Like how it is now, it is simply not fun waking up at 5 am.. 

SPLIT
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Gortha on July 25, 2011, 09:23:32 pm
Yes plase @ Admins&Founders split Strategus...
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: _JoG_ on July 25, 2011, 09:31:12 pm
Hm... Ok, let's assume Strategus is split into two continents. Now, say, I'm a nolifer douchebag who attacks another NA guy at 4 am and hires EU mercenaries to fight him. So, did splitting actually help against it?
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Keshian on July 25, 2011, 09:38:40 pm
Ping doesnt matter if you attack in the middle of the night, because nobody will show up anyways to fight against you.

IE When BRD attacked Amere(Mercs) at 5 AM in the morning. We actually had a full roster. We accepted loads of players. Yet only 3 showed up. So dos it then still matter your playing with a 200+ ping ?

Question. Do you actually play Strategus yourself?

Actually there were about 20 people, though 3-5 left shortly after they found out that the village ahd no equipment, many clanmembers on that side didn't sign up/show up because they already knew that.  Another battle 2 hours later had 40 people show up and we had a great battle and thena nother battle 2 hours after that one 30 people showed up and we had 2, (1 left after his first death).

I am fully in support of the 2 continents (just copy paste current map on other side of ocean, duplicating all the fiefs once is not big deal).  Not just for the horrednous ping battles, or the not-sleeping for 3 days straight, but also the fact that there are now 3x as many people actively playing strategus compared to before and there simply isnt even close to enough room to fit them all (I have 200+ people just in my visible radius alone on the map).  This forces consolidation into massive powerblocks, rather than having many viable smaller clans vying for land.  Already you can probably classify 80% of the map under 5 powerblocks rule (old strategus it took months of invasions to get to that point, many smaller clans existed all over the map for a long time), now within a week the map has already become dominated by a few groups with almost no room for hundreds of players.  Almost all the villages have 8 or more people in them, I see multiple cities in my area that already have 20+ people in them.  All the villages ahve been taken except 1 in roughlya  week of playing (old strat there were free villages for almost 3 months into the game)  The game would be far more dynamic with more room and making 2 continents (NA and EU) would solve two problems with 1 solution. 

Also, the NA playerbase is roughly 80& of the EU playerbase at this point.  It is not small at all, so saying not enough players is an invalid excuse.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Digglez on July 25, 2011, 09:44:38 pm
Actually there were about 20 people, though 3-5 left shortly after they found out that the village ahd no equipment, many clanmembers on that side didn't sign up/show up because they already knew that.  Another battle 2 hours later had 40 people show up and we had a great battle and thena nother battle 2 hours after that one 30 people showed up and we had 2, (1 left after his first death).

I am fully in support of the 2 continents (just copy paste current map on other side of ocean, duplicating all the fiefs once is not big deal).  Not just for the horrednous ping battles, or the not-sleeping for 3 days straight, but also the fact that there are now 3x as many people actively playing strategus compared to before and there simply isnt even close to enough room to fit them all (I have 200+ people just in my visible radius alone on the map).  This forces consolidation into massive powerblocks, rather than having many viable smaller clans vying for land.  Already you can probably classify 80% of the map under 5 powerblocks rule (old strategus it took months of invasions to get to that point, many smaller clans existed all over the map for a long time), now within a week the map has already become dominated by a few groups with almost no room for hundreds of players.  Almost all the villages have 8 or more people in them, I see multiple cities in my area that already have 20+ people in them.  All the villages ahve been taken except 1 in roughlya  week of playing (old strat there were free villages for almost 3 months into the game)  The game would be far more dynamic with more room and making 2 continents (NA and EU) would solve two problems with 1 solution. 

Also, the NA playerbase is roughly 80& of the EU playerbase at this point.  It is not small at all, so saying not enough players is an invalid excuse.

Splitting NA/EU you face what any PVP MMO server fears, lack of critical mass for players, which then sours the entire place and it soon becomes a ghost town.

Making the map larger and/or adding villages isnt hard to do.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Rikthor on July 25, 2011, 09:49:53 pm
I can't remember who it was and I didn't look through the thread to see if it was brought up, but personally I like the idea of one map but two continents. One for NA and one for EU. That way their is still the chance for war with NA vs EU clans but it would happen much less often. It would also be a way for those clans with a NA/EU split to still easily play together.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 25, 2011, 09:50:07 pm
Easy solution besides banning all of NA:

Wipe Strategus again.

Make Calradia bigger, much bigger, increase the amount of settlements by 300%

When joining Strategus ask the player "Are you NA or EU?." Depending on what option the player clicks will determine which side of Calradia he randomly spawns on, this way the middle still has messed up time battles but people can still beat each other up as they please, and one side is just EU and one side is just NA...

Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Keshian on July 25, 2011, 09:58:47 pm
Easy solution besides banning all of NA:

Wipe Strategus again.

Make Calradia bigger, much bigger, increase the amount of settlements by 300%

When joining Strategus ask the player "Are you NA or EU?." Depending on what option the player clicks will determine which side of Calradia he randomly spawns on, this way the middle still has messed up time battles but people can still beat each other up as they please, and one side is just EU and one side is just NA...



+!!1
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Digglez on July 25, 2011, 09:59:54 pm
Easy solution besides banning all of NA:

Wipe Strategus again.

Make Calradia bigger, much bigger, increase the amount of settlements by 300%

When joining Strategus ask the player "Are you NA or EU?." Depending on what option the player clicks will determine which side of Calradia he randomly spawns on, this way the middle still has messed up time battles but people can still beat each other up as they please, and one side is just EU and one side is just NA...



we have a winner~. close thread, get to coding
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Olwen on July 25, 2011, 10:05:00 pm
we didn't even start taking castles and you wanna wipe ? lol.

btw, go create all the new scenes, enjoy, see ya in 1 year
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 25, 2011, 10:06:47 pm
we didn't even start taking castles and you wanna wipe ? lol.

btw, go create all the new scenes, enjoy, see ya in 1 year

Yes, a wipe since it requires a much bigger map as well as EU on one side and NA on another and a clusterfuck in the middle.

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,11675.0.html
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Olwen on July 25, 2011, 10:15:26 pm
What's the point of strategus ? everyone having his own little fief he took against the AI or conquering fiefs from other factions ? might have missed something there

cool, i'll take Reyvadin, Reyvadin2 and Reyvadin3, gonna be some fun time
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 25, 2011, 10:16:51 pm
What's the point of strategus ? everyone having his own little fief he took against the AI or conquering fiefs from other factions ? might have missed something there

Conquering fiefs... which my idea still allows. I know people hate retaking crap against the AI but right now EU and NA clans are all over the map, and my suggestion requires a "sorting" so the timezones remain sane.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Olwen on July 25, 2011, 10:21:41 pm
and why would a bigger map solve timezones problem ? (that is just an ego matter imo)

your solution is to let everyone have their own territory atm ... you should offer that to Israel and Palestine they'd be happy but in a conquest game why da fuck would ya let everyone have territory ?

you know, after taking 3 towns it gets boring quite fast
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 25, 2011, 10:23:34 pm
and why would a bigger map solve timezones problem ? (that is just an ego matter imo)

your solution is to let everyone have their own territory atm ... you should offer that to Israel and Palestine they'd be happy but in a conquest game why da fuck would ya let everyone have territory ?

you know, after taking 3 towns it gets boring quite fast

A bigger map because we have a lot more players, and to give small clans a chance to shine before being crushed instead of letting powerhouses have the map.  Right now there are already dominate clans on the strat map and a huge number of clans don't own anything right now. c-RPG has a lot more players right now then the old Strat did, and it is crowded. After everyone "settled" you would still have wars.

How is this different then creating two continents and having a massive void for NA to fill while leaving EU crowded?
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Olwen on July 25, 2011, 10:29:05 pm
are you applying for miss america in this thread ? :x

i  know you're trying to be cute but once again it's a conquest game, fuck carebears :x little clans aren't meant to be powerful without having allies or means ... logic

there won't be any war if everyone can have his territory, let the wise old man speak (lowl)

crowded means tensions means WARS, you see, i use keywords so you can understand ;)
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Earthdforce on July 25, 2011, 10:30:10 pm
are you applying for miss america in this thread ? :x

i  know you're trying to be cute but once again it's a conquest game, fuck carebears :x little clans aren't meant to be powerful without having allies or means ... logic

there won't be any war if everyone can has his territory, let the wise old man speak (lowl)

crowded means tensions means WARS, you see, i use keywords so you can understand ;)
Yeah...I thought cRPG was a game about balance. Shouldn't Strategus be too?
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Olwen on July 25, 2011, 10:31:42 pm
Yeah...I thought cRPG was a game about balance.

you were wrong

Shouldn't Strategus be too?

it's war ... since when is war balanced ?
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 25, 2011, 10:31:49 pm
are you applying for miss america in this thread ? :x

i  know you're trying to be cute but once again it's a conquest game, fuck carebears :x little clans aren't meant to be powerful without having allies or means ... logic

there won't be any war if everyone can have his territory, let the wise old man speak (lowl)

crowded means tensions means WARS, you see, i use keywords so you can understand ;)

I am not trying to be cute, I am trying to explain that a game of risk with 2 player is boring, but play it with 4 or 8 players and it is exciting, but play it with 20 players and suddenly the board is too fucking small.

Imagine the Arena Battle Map with a 200 man battle. Get it? Too. Fucking. Small. It is like dueling with Chainsaws in a phone booth, not fun.

EDIT:
you were wrong

it's war ... since when is war balanced ?
That is an absolutely retarded stance on a game...

I am not against crowded as crowded does cause wars. I am against Overcrowding.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Olwen on July 25, 2011, 10:36:47 pm

Imagine the Arena Battle Map with a 200 man battle.

it'd be awesome :)

EDIT:That is an absolutely retarded stance on a game...

fair enough, ask devs
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 25, 2011, 10:41:55 pm
fair enough, ask devs

If you read their posts, they always make their decisions off of "gamebalance" even if it is debatable whether it was a balanced decision, it was made with the intention of game balance. We even have a forum called "Game Balance."

So yeah, the devs agree that game balance is important... just how you get there can be a difference of opinion.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Olwen on July 25, 2011, 10:45:20 pm
are you new to crpg ?  :lol:

more than 1 year i'm on crpg, you rookie, i know what i'm talking about :)
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 25, 2011, 10:46:14 pm
are you new to crpg ?  :lol:

more than 1 year i'm on crpg, you rookie, i know what i'm talking about :)

The evidence points otherwise...
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Earthdforce on July 25, 2011, 10:50:04 pm
are you new to crpg ?  :lol:

more than 1 year i'm on crpg, you rookie, i know what i'm talking about :)
You sound delusional.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Olwen on July 25, 2011, 10:55:43 pm
what evidence ? i already explained why your solution was stupid, not gonna repeat it hundred times because you don't even consider what i told you

then if you wanted examples about why crpg never was balanced,

awlpike on horse was op then knockdown was op then archery was op then throwing was op then xbows were op then lolstab was op then archery was OP again, etc ...

but well, if you thought you were right and knew more about the subject than me, what's the point of discussing ?  :lol: i said what i thought, read it back then talk to me  :lol:



Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: hotcobbler on July 25, 2011, 11:10:36 pm
I would support separating EU/NA completely because it evens the playing field as far as ping is concerned, and more battles will be fought during prime hours for both sides.

Also, I think having less clans dominating would prompt new/small clans to rise up and at least take a town, maybe gain more members, and grow. Right now the map is EXTREMELY noob/clan-unassociated unfriendly. That might be ok for a game with a 10,000+ player base, but not for cRPG. I would like to see this mod grow if possible, but between repair costs and large clan takeovers, it won't likely happen.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 25, 2011, 11:27:51 pm
Easy solution besides banning all of NA:

Wipe Strategus again.

Make Calradia bigger, much bigger, increase the amount of settlements by 300%

When joining Strategus ask the player "Are you NA or EU?." Depending on what option the player clicks will determine which side of Calradia he randomly spawns on, this way the middle still has messed up time battles but people can still beat each other up as they please, and one side is just EU and one side is just NA...


Seriously dumb fucking idea.

And after a couple of weeks, NA is mixed with EU again. Or NA initiates and attack on another NA... in the middle of the night, and have EU players fight there battle.

Also. I hear alot of people whine about how the playerbase is too small, too split the server etc.
I think if the times were more doable for casual players... they might actually get more into Strategus.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Overdriven on July 26, 2011, 12:11:39 am
The time slots are stupid. A definite split of some kind is required.

Olwen's evidently a tard.

I think those are the two main lines of agreement that come out of this thread.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Olwen on July 26, 2011, 12:16:08 am
so when you disagreed with someone he's a tard, nice way of thinking :D insulting people is the last means of stupid people out of arguments

Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Overdriven on July 26, 2011, 12:18:38 am
so when you disagreed with someone he's a tard, nice way of thinking :D insulting people is the last means of stupid people out of arguments

Not the only one who disagreed with you.

Especially since you're arguments make no sense. 'Since when is war balanced'. War isn't balanced. Crpg is. If you want imbalance then stop being a tard and go fight a real war. Otherwise deal with the fact that people here like to play for fun, and as a result enjoy a balanced GAME.

I could make 100000 arguments against everything you've said in this thread. But the fact is it's 11:30pm, and like normal people who have work in the morning, I actually have to sleep. The suggestion that EU/NA should fight in the middle of the night (early am's) is a daft one...this is a game, people have lives to attend to. I know not all players here do, but the vast majority do. And so it would be rather nice to keep a game fun, and not have to worry about sleepless nerds who stay awake all night just to attack my fief or people across the world who, by fortune of timezone, happen to be awake when I'm asleep.

If it was kept the way it was, there would rarely be any big battles in the future between NA/EU anyway. They'd be pointless insta victories for the attacking team. It shouldn't be that way. If it was, then strat would not be fun.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Olwen on July 26, 2011, 12:28:47 am
mmh and so the fact that 3-4 NA guys disagreed with me makes me a tard ? nice logic you got there, pop-fashion kid, aren't you ?

A war game can't be balanced, there will always be a side stronger than another. Game or not. Or you'd have to force people to join a side to balance things, just bs. If everything is unbalanced it's because of people's choice and not because of a hardcoded system. If there's more EU than NA it's a player-related fact. If there was more people in some clans than others it's a player-related fact. If some are better than others it's a player-related fact. If some clans wanted to make alliances and some didn't it's a player-related fact, etc.

If you needed a balanced game to enjoy it you wouldn't even enjoy anything.

Better stay quiet than making yourself a fool. Think about it next time.

and once again you're making yourself a fool with talking about attacks during the night whereas the solution that was offered doesn't solve the problems whereas this problem itself could be solved if people wanted to ally with factions from other continents.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Overdriven on July 26, 2011, 12:43:58 am
mmh and so the fact that 3-4 NA guys disagreed with me makes me a tard ? nice logic you got there, pop-fashion kid, aren't you ?

A war game can't be balanced, there will always be a side stronger than another. Game or not. Or you'd have to force people to join a side to balance things, just bs. If everything is unbalanced it's because of people's choice and not because of a hardcoded system. If there's more EU than NA it's a player-related fact. If there was more people in some clans than others it's a player-related fact. If some are better than others it's a player-related fact. If some clans wanted to make alliances and some didn't it's a player-related fact, etc.

If you needed a balanced game to enjoy it you wouldn't even enjoy anything.

Better stay quiet than making yourself a fool. Think about it next time.

and once again you're making yourself a fool with talking about attacks during the night whereas the solution that was offered doesn't solve the problems whereas this problem itself could be solved if people wanted to ally with factions from other continents.

It's people's choice whether they were born in NA or EU? :lol: O wait...I guess life is apparently a choice.

Urr...pretty much every multiplayer game in existance attempts some form of balance. Whether it's class weaknesses/strengths rock paper scissors style, or all round balance. Balanced games are fun game. Unbalanced games are not.

You also seem to forget that this game comes with autobalance in servers. But then I guess if 20 joined one side vs 2 people, to you it's just life eh :wink: Player related fact  :rolleyes:

If crpg was unbalanced, there would be no one playing it. Simple fact. Everyone would be using the one OP weapon. That's not balance.

There were several solutions offered that did solve the problem. Tears solution was a different one. But trying to think of a solution is better than saying 'suck it up, dont have any fun and just deal with the crappy nature of the game, war is unbalanced'.

The suggestion isn't to take away diplomacy ect ect. As it stands there are a lot of cases where diplomatically, it's largely EU vs NA anyway, so if anything splitting it up would cause even more in fighting between each continents clans. Practically everyone has made alliances atm, and it doesn't make a damn difference. There are still empty battles at 3am GMT. Yes some players are better than others, but if those battles include cases where there are 30 vs 2, then something is very wrong.

Unbalance is constantly trying to be ironed out of the game, hence why a large portion of devs choices are based on balance.

I thought about it. And yep, you're argument is still a bit foolish.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Olwen on July 26, 2011, 12:57:47 am
i'm out lol, if someone wanted to explain him how life works he can go on but prison break on the tv ! xD
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Sultan_Khalifa on July 26, 2011, 06:32:00 am
people are not smart here

splitting up the player base

this is going to be the worse thing for clans that have two user bases NA and EU

your going to split up there Clans

also NA-EU do not have that big of a Player base to split them up

ohh make the map smaller it wont be that fun again if its smaller..
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: ManOfWar on July 26, 2011, 08:19:20 am
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Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Ujin on July 26, 2011, 08:43:25 am


also NA-EU do not have that big of a Player base to split them up


Yes , both communities do. And while most NA and EU clans agree that separating would be good, so far i  only see the Fallen disapprove the idea. Both sides are biased, but we simply have more biased clans on our side, Fallen.Clans that enjoy their sleep and free time.

P.S. we have one NA guy in the Shogunate atm. He's playing on EU servers with us -).
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: tankmen on July 26, 2011, 08:57:09 am
i like the two continents idea, because then we could see who truly wants to fight at 6 am or always have bad ping
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Gorath on July 26, 2011, 09:16:01 am
do ya think that when people attacked others during the night the other guys went like : fu i'm working tomorrow, need to sleep, leave me alone and go fight people who aren't sleeping atm

Yeah goddammit.  They did what they had to in order to protect their data and pixelated land and families!
 :shock:
owait, something is gravely amiss in this comparison.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Paul on July 26, 2011, 09:56:57 am
What I'd like to have: 2 continents and hardcore island(s) in the middle. The continents would have a fixed server location and a limited time window for battles. So on the European continent(rich of recources and beautiful people) battles would always been fought on the EU strategus server and could only take place between 17:00 GMT to 0:00 GMT. A similar thing for the NA continent (wasteland with hideous population) with forced NA server and a decent time window for them.

The hardcore island between both continents could retain the current way of handling battles with server location depending on defender and free battle times. That's where inter-conti clans and those with too much free time could have their fun.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Gnjus on July 26, 2011, 10:04:07 am
Lol, Urist makes it sound like this:

NA (any similarity with LLJK Goonies is pure coincidence):
(click to show/hide)

EU:
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Paul on July 26, 2011, 10:07:12 am
Actually both lack facial symmetry.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Xant on July 26, 2011, 10:11:24 am
What I'd like to have: 2 continents and hardcore island(s) in the middle. The continents would have a fixed server location and a limited time window for battles. So on the European continent(rich of recources and beautiful people) battles would always been fought on the EU strategus server and could only take place between 17:00 GMT to 0:00 GMT. A similar thing for the NA continent (wasteland with hideous population) with forced NA server and a decent time window for them.

The hardcore island between both continents could retain the current way of handling battles with server location depending on defender and free battle times. That's where inter-conti clans and those with too much free time could have their fun.

That sounds great. That way, you wouldn't ever have to attack the other continent if you feel like the ping is too high.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Prpavi on July 26, 2011, 10:13:56 am
whats with the QQ about splitting the community??

the community is already split with EU and NA servers and if it werent fot strategnjus it still would be. dont think much tears would fall from EU side if we never played 'mericans again 4 am with 200 ping  :wink:

Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 26, 2011, 10:34:32 am
The problem with your reasoning Olwen: you say its unbalanced i agree, somehow you think it must be that way ("war" bla bla...) but it doesent. Split NA and EU and it will be more enjoyable for both sides. I realy dont see the cons in this system, both communities have enough players to support both Caladrias.

So we have the pros:

Less lag.
Reasonable times.
More fiefs to take.
Less crowd. (this maybe a pro or a con depending on who you ask)

And then we have the cons:

Spliting up clans that have ppl from bot NA and EU


If you want to continue with your war is unbalaced bla bla whatever, feel free to atack at 5 am on EU servers.

I am also in support in a split continent thingy or something, but frankly with the rate of things that get done by the dev team i dont see that happening.... ever
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Gnjus on July 26, 2011, 10:41:26 am
Don't mind Lolwen and his blabbing lads, he's just a fail troll and he's probably very high all the time during his forum posting.  :wink:

Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: LLJK_Korea1 on July 26, 2011, 10:42:48 am
this thread: retarded imagemacros and babbies that need their 12 hour beautysleeps. Seriously 6am isng that bad especially if youre working.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 26, 2011, 10:42:54 am
Don't mind Lolwen and his blabbing lads, he's just a fail troll and he's probably very high all the time during his forum posting.  :wink:

Dont steal my thunder!

Now my post is forgotten on the previous page, DAMN YOUUUUUUUUUUU
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 26, 2011, 10:45:23 am
this thread: retarded imagemacros and babbies that need their 12 hour beautysleeps. Seriously 6am isng that bad especially if youre working.

Hell yea i want my beauty sleep, FFS i dont want to look like you!
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: DaveUKR on July 26, 2011, 10:47:54 am
What i suggest:

1) 2 big continents (the second one is entirely new with new maps, we have plenty of new village maps). The second continent has the amount of fiefs calculated by the difference in the Strategus playerbase of NA and EU (i.e. current Calradia has 100 fiefs and 17,000 players. 10,000 of these players are EU, 7000 of them are from NA. Then new Strategus will be with Calradia and 100 fiefs for EU servers only, new continent with 70 fiefs for NA servers only). And i would like to see 10-15 islands between continents with variable server (the one who defends it defines the server).

2) Fixed time windows for players. 16:00 - 00:00 for both continents with their local time

3) Make it possible to pass through the water only by using ships. Sea battles would be great

4) Make roads, so the army which moves using a road has a speed bonus and the one which doesn't has a speed penalty. Same for different types of ground.

5) Make less radius of vision

6) Wipe this strategus only after we test everything
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 26, 2011, 10:50:37 am
Yea thats all awesome but the problem is: can it be done?

And if it can: how long will it take? a year, two years, three?
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: DaveUKR on July 26, 2011, 10:51:11 am
Yea thats all awesome but the problem is: can it be done?

And if it can: how long will it take? a year, two years, three?

if someone will do it for chadz it will be done in 2 weeks i guess
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Prpavi on July 26, 2011, 11:02:15 am
this thread: retarded imagemacros and babbies that need their 12 hour beautysleeps. Seriously 6am isng that bad especially if youre working.


hell yea i need my sleep and i aint waking up 4-5-6 am for a fucking game anymore and neither should you. fuck it was retarded of me the first couple of times tbh.

and for the love of god change your avatar there are minors roaming this forums also u know.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Gorath on July 26, 2011, 11:03:34 am
Seriously 6am isng that bad especially if youre working.

You understand that 6am is when most working adults are up, around and gone/going to work already right?  Hence no participation.  Unless you plan to be late for work.
Or you're a swing shifter, in which case you're getting up WAY earlier than you need to for work, causing you to swap schedules so that work is the last thing you do in the day and so you're more tired during your shift than is healthy.
Or you're a graveyard worker in which case you're probably JUST getting home from work.  That's not bad.  So how many people in cRPG work graveyard?  Show of hands?
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Everkistus on July 26, 2011, 11:10:14 am
I usually wake up before 6 am at weekdays to get ready for work. Today I woke before 4 to fight against Dusturil again.

If you go to sleep early, you wake up early :)
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Chagan_Arslan on July 26, 2011, 11:18:54 am
bind the timezone to the area the fight takes and divide the current map into two timezone areas

something like this
visitors can't see pics , please register or login


these areas can be proportionate to the amount of players NA and EU have right now
if a clan has eu and na players they would pretty much want to sit on the border of those timezones, where na players could deal on one side and eu on the other
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Thax on July 26, 2011, 12:51:41 pm
I hope chadz at least considers some of the easier to implement options here.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Gnjus on July 26, 2011, 12:54:25 pm
this thread: retarded imagemacros and babbies that need their 12 hour beautysleeps. Seriously 6am isng that bad especially if youre working.

A line like this can only come from the keyboard of a semi-retarded good-for-nothing, Miss-Piggy-look-a-like piece of shit, who does nothing in his real life except growing even more fat & useless then he already is........someday in the future people might run out of pigs to slaughter, for serving them (their products) on their holiday tables, and when that happens I'm sure that swines like you will be on top of priority lists to fill the substantial gaps between the supply and demand. Until that happens you might wanna keep your idiotic comments to yourself, since most of us have (probably) at least once in our lives witnessed the slaughtering of a pig and I'm certain that it's last squeaks made more sense then your posts in this forum.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Snickers on July 26, 2011, 01:21:20 pm
I actually prefer the system as is. The problems you guys are giving is, the time which the battle takes place and the ping problem, but you see you cannot have both the problems, since attackers pick the time but they have bad ping. I don't know what you ppl are bitching about; The FCC had been attacked at 5 AM eastern by the mercs but you don't see us with like 10 ppl showing up for the battle since, our diplomats go around to other clans teamspeaks and vents looking for trustworthy members that would play for us, who assures us that they would be on at the time of the battle.


something like this
visitors can't see pics , please register or login


these areas can be proportionate to the amount of players NA and EU have right now
if a clan has eu and na players they would pretty much want to sit on the border of those timezones, where na players could deal on one side and eu on the other
[/quote]

This is just the dumbest thing ever, please explain how this fixes any problems. This basically just cripples the defenders; lets say a NA clan captures some EU territory, and Eu goes and tries to capture it back, the NA clan would have bad ping and a horrible time in the day.


What you people need to do is just get your priorities in order, its all you decision; if you think this is more important that work by all means take a vacation day, if not just get some one to merc for you.

I love the idea of defenders have the advantage, which they do because of the ping, the time  isn't that big of a problem, since if i just search i'm sure i can  enough people that are willing to wake up at 5am in order to participate in it. I hate the idea of two Continents because i don't believe any land should be harder to take or defend than any other land.



1) 2 big continents (the second one is entirely new with new maps, we have plenty of new village maps). The second continent has the amount of fiefs calculated by the difference in the Strategus playerbase of NA and EU (i.e. current Calradia has 100 fiefs and 17,000 players. 10,000 of these players are EU, 7000 of them are from NA. Then new Strategus will be with Calradia and 100 fiefs for EU servers only, new continent with 70 fiefs for NA servers only). And i would like to see 10-15 islands between continents with variable server (the one who defends it defines the server).



That is just utter bullshit, the EU server having more fiefs, more villages=More troops, owning a town gives you 2 troops an hour instead of 1.
I think the map should just be expanded, but any clan no matter EU or NA should be able to take any fief they want.

PS. if you don't want to fight in dreadful hours or have bad ping, Don't start wars with the clans from the other continent.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Cepeshi on July 26, 2011, 01:41:59 pm
First of all: i do work in three shifts model, so all the times are fitting/crazy for me, depending on what shift i have that day.

Secondly: playing as EU on NA server and vice versa sucks balls, hard to do anything with 190 ping, say what you want, SUCKS.

And, on more serious note: I say delete strategus. Just remove it totally. That is a suggestion that could solve the crazy battle times, just get back to mindless battle grinds. Problem solved, whining stops, everyone happy. The clans had so nice time before old strat release, now they are just bashing each other, whining, bitching about times, rosters, bugged spawns preventing correct strategic planning and shit...

Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: LLJK_Korea1 on July 26, 2011, 01:45:15 pm
A line like this can only come from the keyboard of a semi-retarded good-for-nothing, Miss-Piggy-look-a-like piece of shit, who does nothing in his real life except growing even more fat & useless then he already is........someday in the future people might run out of pigs to slaughter, for serving them (their products) on their holiday tables, and when that happens I'm sure that swines like you will be on top of priority lists to fill the substantial gaps between the supply and demand. Until that happens you might wanna keep your idiotic comments to yourself, since most of us have (probably) at least once in our lives witnessed the slaughtering of a pig and I'm certain that it's last squeaks made more sense then your posts in this forum.

What no imagemacro


Also yeah splitting the map is kinda dumb, also as gay as NA alliances and empires are, there isn't really that much of action going NA vs NA so most fights are fought between na and eu. Its dumb and this is coming from eu player
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: LLJK_Korea1 on July 26, 2011, 01:49:10 pm
You understand that 6am is when most working adults are up, around and gone/going to work already right?  Hence no participation.  Unless you plan to be late for work.
Or you're a swing shifter, in which case you're getting up WAY earlier than you need to for work, causing you to swap schedules so that work is the last thing you do in the day and so you're more tired during your shift than is healthy.
Or you're a graveyard worker in which case you're probably JUST getting home from work.  That's not bad.  So how many people in cRPG work graveyard?  Show of hands?

Dude my work starts 7-8.30, eight hour day, so if i wake up at six, i can have nice cup of coffee, read my newspaper, fight with internet swords and get to work in time. I may be blessed with that but i cant be the only one
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Chagan_Arslan on July 26, 2011, 01:50:21 pm
@Snickers

1) map is just an example to illustrate the idea
2) you got your quotes mixed up, i didnt say anything about creating 2 continents
3) what if im declared war by a clan that want to force me and my mates to play in dreadful hours? should they win because of the ping and timezone rather than skill, tactics and coordination on map
4) games = fun, take the fun part and you end up with what exactly ? proving over internet that you can win no matter the costs ?
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Blondin on July 26, 2011, 02:05:51 pm
I don't understand this game is international, eventualy ppl will have several time zone, eventualy one time zone doesn't fit to others.
You can splitt and limit time zone attack, the problem will be the same, some player will not fit in your time zone.
There is no solution except that some of us could never play in good time zone for them.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Phazey on July 26, 2011, 04:03:17 pm
Sorry guys, didn't read the whole thread, tl;dr and too much flaming and immature bickering.

On topic: please, chadz, pretty please with sugar on top, seperate NA and EU strategus.

What I'd like to have: 2 continents and hardcore island(s) in the middle. The continents would have a fixed server location and a limited time window for battles. So on the European continent(rich of recources and beautiful people) battles would always been fought on the EU strategus server and could only take place between 17:00 GMT to 0:00 GMT. A similar thing for the NA continent (wasteland with hideous population) with forced NA server and a decent time window for them.

The hardcore island between both continents could retain the current way of handling battles with server location depending on defender and free battle times. That's where inter-conti clans and those with too much free time could have their fun.

That would be a great solution. Or, for the short term, just give the NA's their own strategus server.

Or, if you really want to keep everyone on one big strategus world, create a system where factions can select a certain amount of timeslots each week to prevent this unwanted 5 AM buisness.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Timotheusthereal on July 26, 2011, 04:07:52 pm
I like the idea of making two continents and a island between the continents.

Take a cookie... every taste bud want a share of it, unfournately not everyone can get it at same time.
Take two cookies... throw em into your mouth and suddently every taste bud get its demands in matter of time...

no comment on my physilodilo theory of doom
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Gorath on July 26, 2011, 05:19:16 pm
I may be blessed with that but i cant be the only one

Perhaps not.  However my bias shows because I start my commute TO work (1 hour commute) at 6am and then work until 9-10pm and then have my 1 hour commute back home, mon-fri.  Getting up earlier or staying up later is pretty much out of the question for me. 
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: MrShine on July 26, 2011, 08:01:43 pm
The whole timezone/ping thing is going to be a headache however you look at it.  I do feel that having separate strats might be the best solution, although it sucks to split the community in that way.

Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Different on July 26, 2011, 09:18:52 pm
It dont split really the communty, just strat.. and maybe clans in strat ..

but everyone can get over it  I guess
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 26, 2011, 09:35:04 pm
Well good news, turns out chadz is going to address this problem, and go along with, ah, as some players roughly put it, my "fucking terrible idea" more or less.  :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,11675.0.html
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 26, 2011, 10:45:43 pm
Well good news, turns out chadz is going to address this problem, and go along with, ah, as some players roughly put it, my "fucking terrible idea" more or less.  :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,11675.0.html
It wasnt your idea, you basicly summed up all good idea's people had... wrote it down in a nice color.

Still think you, and your idea's are retarted. You shouldnt think too much of yourself.. you already sound cocky enough.
And from what ive seen, most of the patches chadz developed are retarted.
1+1=2

I expect the crpg community to have to wait another year.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 26, 2011, 10:48:56 pm
Still think you, and your idea's are retarted.
And from what ive seen, most of the patches chadz developed are retarted.
1+1=2

I expect the crpg community to have to wait another year.

Forgive me for not taking you too seriously when you are calling me retarted instead of retarded  :lol:
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 26, 2011, 10:49:50 pm
Forgive me for not taking you too seriously when you are calling me retarted instead of retarded  :lol:

Seems like you also find yourself very smart... being a typo chocolate chip cookie and all.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 26, 2011, 10:51:41 pm
Seems like you also find yourself very smart... being a typo chocolate chip cookie and all.

Typos I have no problem with, just the irony that of all the words to typo it was an insult that attacks the intelligence of the target.

EDIT:
It wasnt your idea, you basicly summed up all good idea's people had... wrote it down in a nice color.
Now I am confused with your edit... I thought they were all bad ideas since you called them retarded?

Are there good retarded ideas?
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 26, 2011, 11:07:57 pm
Typos I have no problem with, just the irony that of all the words to typo it was an insult that attacks the intelligence of the target.

EDIT:Now I am confused with your edit... I thought they were all bad ideas since you called them retarded?

Are there good retarded ideas?

You had the idea too simply sum up all the idea's other people had, and wrote them down in a pretty color. Wich is a retar(d)ed idea.
But the idea's other people were coming up with, were actually pretty good.

But hey man, w/e works. You got your ego boosted. An oppertunity to suck chadz is *&^#. And you get too feel good about yourself.

I know it might be confusing... can imaging might be a little to hard for you to comprehent
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 26, 2011, 11:14:01 pm
You had the idea too simply sum up all the idea's other people had, and wrote them down in a pretty color. Wich is a retar(d)ed idea.
But the idea's other people were coming up with, were actually pretty good.

But hey man, w/e works. You got your ego boosted. An oppertunity to suck chadz is *&^#. And you get too feel good about yourself.

I know it might be confusing... can imaging might be a little to hard for you to comprehent

Eh, it was a pick-and-choose of several ideas put into one and small modifications, I agree not that terribly original. I mainly put it together because I was "cherry-picking" what parts I liked and did not like so I could present it all at once, and made it a pretty colour and a new thread for it so people could see it instead of having to trudge through this entire wearysome thread.

Secondly, might I point out that I do not have an ego boosted, as chadz pointed out in his post that (paraphrasing here) something similar was already under consideration. The "somehting similar" shows that the exact "idea" was not taken, and the "already under consideration" bit showed that it had nothing to do with me...

Where did I say I was getting an Ego boost?  :rolleyes: I already feel good about some aspects of myself regardless of what happens on the internet, and I did not do anythign about "An oppertunity to suck chadz is *&^#." as we are most assuredly not butt buddies (to put it in South Park terms). Have you missed perhaps all the times I have antagonized the devs during my two month spree of idiotic over-the-top trolling that occured a bit ago that netted me this shweet custom title?

Good sir, I do believe you have not the faintest clue what is going through my head, what with the assumption that I was under an Ego Boost and feeling good about myself for blah blah blah blah blah  :lol:

What I was feeling when I posted that was just amusement.

Please, pray tell, what else am I thinking or feeling? I would love to know what else you can invent for me  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 26, 2011, 11:23:22 pm

Good sir, I do believe you have not the faintest clue what is going through my head, what with the assumption that I was under an Ego Boost and feeling good about myself for blah blah blah blah blah  :lol:

Wow man nice. you fell for it.

Did i not just exacly reflected on you... the kind off bullshit you give Mercs? And you basicly just said, how us Mercs think.

Think hard on this.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 26, 2011, 11:30:06 pm
Wow man nice. you fell for it.

Did i not just exacly reflected on you... the kind off bullshit you give Mercs? And you basicly just said, how us Mercs think.

Think hard on this.

What bullshit specifically? Quote me, now, please.

All I remember saying is that the Mercs do not heavily regulate what their members say and do unlike most other clans, and that they have at least a few members that shoot their mouths off but it should not reflect on the clan itself. I merely recall saying that BRD should not take it too personally what some Mercs say, and if I remember correctly the "Bullshit" was entirely BRD VS Merc arguements... I am not BRD FYI

I never said that all mercs were massive egoists or anything else.

So, give me the exact quote that you are talking about.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Earthdforce on July 26, 2011, 11:31:39 pm
Learn2Spell, please. It's hard to understand what you're saying Jambi..
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 26, 2011, 11:33:49 pm
I never said that all mercs were massive egoists or anything else.

Start thinking harder
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Different on July 26, 2011, 11:35:13 pm
You can understand him, not ? Well i can very good  :lol:

You cant expect from anyone to have a proper english, though its not worldwide mayor language ( YES there are some other languages as english !  :lol:)

Just dont get that low please...  8-)
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 26, 2011, 11:35:38 pm
Start thinking harder
Or alternatively give me the exact quote and stop putting words in my mouth. You are thinking of someone else. This should not be difficult, you need only see the last few pages of the BRD thread, or the MERC thread, or the BRD VS Merc arguement thread to find anything I have said about the Mercs...


Find Me The Quote or you are full of shit. I want proof.



EDIT: Before someone attempts to read between the lines... let me be perfectly blunt.
I don't have any problems with the mercs, I jut think that Two of their members are complete and utter fools (Captain Obvious: Jambi is one of them).
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Earthdforce on July 26, 2011, 11:40:30 pm
No, I can understand him fine, but I just wanted to give him a hard time haha. But yeah, why's it seem like half of the trolly arguments since strategus came back seem to involve at least one Mercenary?
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 26, 2011, 11:44:42 pm
Or alternatively give me the exact quote and stop putting words in my mouth. You are thinking of someone else.

Good sir, I do believe you have not the faintest clue what is going through my head

Too tell you the truth, about what im thinking off

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0S3X38UXqM

 :P

*edit* CAPSLOCK FTW WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Different on July 26, 2011, 11:50:22 pm
somehow this goes offtopic  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 26, 2011, 11:51:14 pm
somehow this goes offtopic  :rolleyes:

Im sorry Alat(d)ard, ill stay on topic for now  :P
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 26, 2011, 11:51:30 pm
You got your ego boosted. An oppertunity to suck chadz is *&^#. And you get too feel good about yourself.

And to that I said the "Good sir, I do believe that you have not the faintest clue what is going through my head" as I was not having my ego boosted nor was I sucking up to chadz nor was I feeling good about myself due to the thread I started.

Too tell you the truth, about what im thinking off

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0S3X38UXqM

 :P

I like how instead of quoting me babbling about the mercs, you quote me refuting your claim that I was enjoying an ego boost... and then gave me a YouTube song...

So, you said, to clarify:
Wow man nice. you fell for it.

Did i not just exacly reflected on you... the kind off bullshit you give Mercs? And you basicly just said, how us Mercs think.

Think hard on this.

So I ask you For the third time to quote me on this alleged "Bullshit" that I gave the mercs.. Where have I specifically stated that I know how the Mercs think? All this time I have been talking about YOU specifically, not the mercs.

Third time is the charm, yes? Or are you going to continue spouting youtube links...
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Different on July 26, 2011, 11:56:35 pm
I say we bring good suggestions from now on how to improve strategus and solve the NA and EU problem  :?:
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 26, 2011, 11:59:27 pm
I say we bring good suggestions from now on how to improve strategus and solve the NA and EU problem  :?:

Only after Jambi points out this mythical quote of mine saying I know how all mercs think. Alternatively, he can post his reply in my suggestion topic, or I can quote and post the entire conversation in the Merc thread to continue.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Jambi on July 27, 2011, 12:00:25 am
I say we bring good suggestions from now on how to improve strategus and solve the NA and EU problem  :?:

I think Tears_Of_Destiny his idea was pretty good check out

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,11675.0.html

This thread continue's there i suppose

 :lol:
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Keshian on July 27, 2011, 01:01:12 am
I think ToD won this round of discourse rather resoundingly.  Congratulations, you win (drumroll please)...... a +1 :).
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Graf_Hodenschaf on July 27, 2011, 07:17:40 am
Creating a World with 2 continents sounds good. Or if there are not enough players, then npc´s will fight instead of them.

I fought about 4 battles now, where enemies had a force of 5 men  :rolleyes:
It was a minute battle, really annoying!
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: mimdras on July 27, 2011, 10:11:18 pm
Keep
IT
Simple
Stupid


Two maps..one NA one EU ..wipe current(after ironing out bugs)
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 28, 2011, 03:36:29 pm
Added a  poll
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: kinngrimm on July 28, 2011, 04:06:04 pm
additional to split Timezones, make prime times within only Locations like villages, castles, towns can be attacked
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Gorath on July 28, 2011, 04:45:37 pm
But isn't everyone having fun fighting at 5am or during the middle of the work day?
 :lol:

Seriously though, EU and NA can't play together in games like this with territorial control and such.  It just can't happen or this is what we get every time.  The time difference and ping difference is just too much and one of those things none of us can change.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Kalp on July 28, 2011, 06:39:05 pm
After today battle of Buillin I'm definitely for splitting. It's not only time issue but also ping. It was torment  :(
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Teeth on July 30, 2011, 10:11:11 am
I support a different solution.

We should make a server thats exactly in the middle of the atlantic ocean, so both continents have manageable and comparable lag. Just put the server on some barge, I'm a 100% sure that someone in the cRPG community is on the verge of comitting suicide, he would be perfect for the job to row this barge to the middle of the ocean. There he will drop the anchor and fair fights will ensue. Oh yeah and this rowdude will ofcourse die of thirst.

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Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Mtemtko on July 30, 2011, 01:26:28 pm
Just sick of these morning battles.... today I was reading a book at 3:20, fell asleep, slept till now and skipped searider and merc battle.. I hope something will be done about this very soon. :|
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Blondin on July 30, 2011, 01:57:55 pm
Just sick of these morning battles.... today I was reading a book at 3:20, fell asleep, slept till now and skipped searider and merc battle.. I hope something will be done about this very soon. :|

Nobody force you to play.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Mtemtko on July 30, 2011, 02:00:12 pm
Nobody force you to play.

Heh, strategus is the only reason why I came back to crpg....
And I love it.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Earthdforce on July 30, 2011, 02:18:49 pm
Lol. I woke up today at 5:30 AM for the LLJK fight and I doubt I'll regret it.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: SPQR on July 30, 2011, 02:29:00 pm
Lol. I woke up today at 5:30 AM for the LLJK fight and I doubt I'll regret it.

I appreciate the effort to help us, but you're crazy dude. haha
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Puppybull on July 30, 2011, 07:24:29 pm
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If only you all had my uncanny applesauce-only ability to evolve with ping.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Ragemelon on July 31, 2011, 01:48:58 pm
I'm all for a split. Nobody benefits from having to deal with horrible ping and odd hours.
So far the only arguments I've heard for not splitting is "deal with it" and that a few clans have members in both communities.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: Corwin on August 01, 2011, 10:41:28 am
additional to split Timezones, make prime times within only Locations like villages, castles, towns can be attacked
I support this. It is completely retarded that 19.00 - 0.00 CET time slot is taken for the battle with 7 tickets overall.

Also, this would be a great time for any feedback from devs.
Title: Re: Waking up at 6 am
Post by: TucKMuncK on August 29, 2011, 08:42:37 pm
nvm