On the question of Cheating

[Tristan_of_Erzoth]

Maybe because they aren't the heroes you think they are; they're cheaters who exploited a community management tool in order to win. Not only is that morally wrong on it's own, but to do it in retaliation for unproven crimes is sickening. If anyone broke the rules, ban thread them, don't cheat back at them.
The fact that you're defending them only proves how much of a dirtbag you are, too.

Lol people tried to get them banned but James just abused his mod powers to unban them almost immediately. The fact that you're defending Acre, a bunch of known cheaters is sickening.

[Bauer]

It was my understanding that Dupre unbanned us. =/

[Tristan_of_Erzoth]

It was my understanding that Dupre unbanned us. =/

Because James used his mod powers to cry to him like likkl babby

[Uulmshar]

The fact that you're defending Acre, a bunch of known cheaters is sickening.

If they've cheated, it was not in my presence, nor have I even heard of any.
So if you're sickened by me supporting people that I have seen do no wrong, then you aren't hitting yourself in the head hard enough.
Also, are you sickened by your own cheater-supporting, or are you just using my own words in a way to paint me as the one with double standards? Because I think that plan just backfired.

[Bauer]

Well, what would you do if your clan members were banned? =/

[Tristan_of_Erzoth]

If they've cheated, it was not in my presence, nor have I even heard of any.
So if you're sickened by me supporting people that I have seen do no wrong, then you aren't hitting yourself in the head hard enough.
Also, are you sickened by your own cheater-supporting, or are you just using my own words in a way to paint me as the one with double standards? Because I think that plan just backfired.

No one cheated as far as I can see on my side. They used a community moderated system to get rid of cheaters. How is that wrong in any way?

Well, what would you do if your clan members were banned? =/

if they were cheaters I wouldn't get them unbanned and let them serve their sentence

[Bauer]

No one cheated as far as I can see on my side. They used a community moderated system to get rid of cheaters. How is that wrong in any way? if they were cheaters I wouldn't get them unbanned and let them serve their sentence

Good god man. You still haven't responded to the fact that I'm a total strat noob, by the way.

[Tristan_of_Erzoth]

Strange, these accidental glitches seem to be happening a lot... to the fiefs HCE choose to attack.

What was the nature of that glitch again? How easy would it be to defend Durquba without gear?

Nah Heskey, haven't you heard? Acre can't ever be gear bugged they are too good at it and experts at strategus. Yet also at the same time somehow noobs...

[Uulmshar]

No one cheated as far as I can see on my side. They used a community moderated system to get rid of cheaters. How is that wrong in any way?

It was wrong because it was after the fact. Ex post facto. Nobody had cheated in that battle, so there was no reason to ban anybody from it. If there was suspected cheating on the strat map, then a ban thread would be the appropriate method of justice. Waiting to ban someone under circumstances that would also heavily benefit yourself is corrupt and immoral and I will continue to condemn it, even if Acre is proven to have cheated in the past. This situation on its own is a gross abuse of the game's justice system.

[Tristan_of_Erzoth]

It was wrong because it was after the fact. Ex post facto. Nobody had cheated in that battle, so there was no reason to ban anybody from it. If there was suspected cheating on the strat map, then a ban thread would be the appropriate method of justice. Waiting to ban someone under circumstances that would also heavily benefit yourself is corrupt and immoral and I will continue to condemn it, even if Acre is proven to have cheated in the past. This situation on its own is a gross abuse of the game's justice system.

They cheated before the battle to ensure that the defenders had no gear to use. Why would we use a ban thread and then lose the battle when we could take care of the offenders during the battle and win?

[Bauer]

Nah Heskey, haven't you heard? Acre can't ever be gear bugged they are too good at it and experts at strategus. Yet also at the same time somehow noobs...

Some of us are experts at strat. Some of us are new to the clan and have little to no experience in strat. Putting us all into the same group when there are very clear difference would make Aristotle ill.

[Bauer]

I talked to Louie on steam during the battle. He was completely baffled by what was going on. Why is this all coming up after I raid Largos' undefended fief?

[Schoi]

I talked to Louie on steam during the battle. He was completely baffled by what was going on. Why is this all coming up after I raid Largos' undefended fief?

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Woah guys, watch out. We've got some experts over here, cover your assholes before you go to sleep tonight.

[Tristan_of_Erzoth]

I talked to Louie on steam during the battle. He was completely baffled by what was going on. Why is this all coming up after I raid Largos' undefended fief?

Could be they didn't want you banned and decided to defeat you legit, and then you started raiding like scum

[Uulmshar]

I notice that this thread is turning into a hating-on-Acre circle-jerk, with Tristan as the middle bitch.
Less than two months ago, when I first started playing - at your suggestion, Tristan - we always hung out in the Acre TS, and we were mercenaries for them quite a bit.
If they're such notorious cheaters, why would you introduce a new player to them? Why would you, yourself associate with them?
Maybe it's because you never did have a problem with Acre, and you're just hopping on the hate-on-acre bandwagon so you can feel like you belong again, after I left your shitty faction clan.