Dear game balance team~~~ALL PLASE COME IN~~~~~~~

[BlindGuy]

Saw a Shanghai Brave thread, fucking had to come read.

Two little things:

1/ I will be interested to see if anyone from China bought MBG, since with their copyright laws, they would probably have the game debugged and re-released in under a month from actual release.

2/ Chinese playerbase who are forumactive need to do more to represent: get more of their guys onto the forum, who cares if their english is bad, we have been dealing with psycopath Russ and Yanks for years and we can mostly decipher what they mean, and it's not like google translate doesn't work in China. Then they can express their opinions. Because we all know and love it when Shanghai Brave comes in to tell us about the genetic makeup of horses (And here I thought they were chickens for all these years!), they are just one person, and I doubt they take a poll of the opinions of everyone in CHN before they come and post here.

Also, incline the fucking head and listen you ignorant cunts, fucking horses are neither monkeys nor chickens, you fucking got that?

[Switchtense]

Feng Cheng Cheng is a god of crpg, he cannot be beaten. If he could play on other servers with even 100 ping i think everyone would GTX, best melee and ranged crpg player in the world.

Saddens me that other players in EU and NA have never seen him in action or fought him, yet they still consider themselves 'good' at the game. If only they knew true power

That one killing spree of him I will never forget.

That day it was when I had a new idol I looked up at.


It is a shame he never plays on EU or NA. He is an unsung hero.

[Corsair831]

We really need a chinese player in the balance team.

buff unarmed combat ..

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.. just sayin' .. ( )

[Corsair831]

Chinese meta is rather different from both EU and NA which makes their perception of balance very different, even more so than the already noticable differences between EU and NA. To be honest I'd dare to explain their different perception of balance even from a very different mentality towards life itself. EU and NA players largely come from very individualistic western cultures, whereas in Chinese culture the well-being of the group is much more prominent. From what I have seen from the Chinese servers and from what I read in the OP, I can sense a greater love for being a part of a bigger machine, making the clan or team win.
Shanghai is right that this is not the approach that has been taken by the balance team. The balance team tries to make individuals more able to have a chance against everyone, so you can do well in many situations by smart and skillfull play. What Shanghai wants is rock-paper-scissor balance, where the team versus team is properly balanced, but where an individual player can get hard-countered and properly fucked by his counters.
This for example. I think this wouldn't be very fun or interesting, because the only thing you can do is hope that you are lucky enough to not be the one that rides into a spear. It makes your ability or decisions largely irrelevant. It's like linebattles in Napoleonic Wars, utterly boring and random from an individual perspective.

Apart from me preferring the individualistic approach, I do not understand how Shanghai envisions a more team based balance to work. Are all the Chinese players always on voice communication doing tactics with eachother during play on public servers? In EU and NA the teams as a whole cannot effectively communicate so a team based balance is very bad, because players cannot coordinate cav charges, shieldwalls, or shooting horse-archers. Everybody does what he likes best, therefore individually based balance fits much better.
Also, I do indeed think that this is a game and not history. Balancing to historical strengths is terrible because the game is very different from real battle in countless of very important ways, one of them being that this game should be fun for everyone.

dude, this is the first time i've seen you go full retard.
you've come pretty close before, but this is the biscuit.

chinese prefer team-based meta game because communism. lol'd.

[Teeth]

Not only communism, but also because of Taoism, which is much less individualistic than Christianity which formed Western society.

You don't think Western society is more individualistically oriented as a whole than Chinese society?

[BlindGuy]

Not only communism, but also because of Taoism, which is much less individualistic than Christianity which formed Western society.

You don't think Western society is more individualistically oriented as a whole than Chinese society?

Chinese Culture Only Culture now back to work!

[Gravoth_iii]

Not only communism, but also because of Taoism, which is much less individualistic than Christianity which formed Western society.

You don't think Western society is more individualistically oriented as a whole than Chinese society?

Corsair does not speak to racists!

[Corsair831]

Not only communism, but also because of Taoism, which is much less individualistic than Christianity which formed Western society.

You don't think Western society is more individualistically oriented as a whole than Chinese society?

considering neither of us have ever lived in china, and that neither of us have probably had a decent conversation with a chinese person, i think those kind of assumptions are pretty baseless lol

[Teeth]

Well, it is not entirely about China being expectionally unindividualistic, but also about western society being exceptionally individualistic compared to everything I know from pretty much any other culture. Aside from that I have done a minor about Modern China at my university and I have a Chinese roommate, which together with the aforementioned exceptional individuality of western society makes me feel pretty comfortable with the statement I made. lol.

[cup457]

Eastern society as a whole, pretty much the near east to the far east, have societies where it is the norm to sacrifice many personal freedoms for the good of the group. This is the reason why communism never really took over in the west, because our society favors( or it id) individual choice and the presumption that a person should be able to control their own future.

[Corsair831]

Well, it is not entirely about China being expectionally unindividualistic, but also about western society being exceptionally individualistic compared to everything I know from pretty much any other culture. Aside from that I have done a minor about Modern China at my university and I have a Chinese roommate, which together with the aforementioned exceptional individuality of western society makes me feel pretty comfortable with the statement I made. lol.

i ate noodles once

[SP1N]

Eastern society as a whole, pretty much the near east to the far east, have societies where it is the norm to sacrifice many personal freedoms for the good of the group. This is the reason why communism never really took over in the west, because our society favors( or it id) individual choice and the presumption that a person should be able to control their own future.

cup, your intelligence is showing. Hide your shame.

[22nd_Earl_NoscopeGabe]

Fried chicken, mang!

[Smoothrich]

Not only communism, but also because of Taoism, which is much less individualistic than Christianity which formed Western society.

You don't think Western society is more individualistically oriented as a whole than Chinese society?

If your western values have made you so individualistic, why are you talking about 1.4 billion individuals like they are all the same?

[Smoothrich]

Eastern society as a whole, pretty much the near east to the far east, have societies where it is the norm to sacrifice many personal freedoms for the good of the group. This is the reason why communism never really took over in the west, because our society favors( or it id) individual choice and the presumption that a person should be able to control their own future.

i read shit like this and i begin to really wish america would institute a draft again just so people like cup can be ironically sent to die